Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Building Sustainable Rural Health Care at Newman Memorial Hospital with Tom Vasko
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- 0:38This is Scott Becker with the Beckers HealthCare
- 0:41podcast.
- 0:42I'm thrilled today to visit with a leading
- 0:45and brilliant
- 0:46chief executive officer.
- 0:48We're joined today by Tom Vasco.
- 0:51Tom is the CEO of Newman Memorial Hospital.
- 0:54He's gonna talk just a little bit today
- 0:55about what trends he's watching, what he's most
- 0:58focused on, and and a lot more.
- 1:00Tom, can you take a moment and tell
- 1:02us a little bit about yourself, your career,
- 1:05and about Newman Memorial?
- 1:07Yes. Thank thanks, Scott. You know, and thank
- 1:08you for having me. It's always a pleasure
- 1:10to be here.
- 1:12Definitely a unique background shortly with me. Spent
- 1:15a lot of time in urban health care
- 1:17and then ventured out to rural,
- 1:20rural health care to understand the fragmentation of
- 1:24between urban and rural health health care. And
- 1:27what a what an incredible journey, you know,
- 1:28it's been. And so I I currently serve,
- 1:31as the CEO, as you mentioned, New Memorial
- 1:32Hospital, which, you know, is a critical access
- 1:34hospital in rural
- 1:36regional health system now that that crosses Northwest
- 1:38Oklahoma that has been caring for its community
- 1:41for more than a century. Public trust, so
- 1:43independent,
- 1:45independent system and and growing network of primary
- 1:48care clinics across multiple rural markets with you
- 1:51know, we have a really strong focus on
- 1:53keeping care local while intentionally building
- 1:56regional partnerships to kind of expand that access
- 1:58to specialty services. And, you know, I'd say,
- 2:01Scott, at our core, we're, you know, we're
- 2:03a very mission driven organization that everything we
- 2:06do is grounded in community,
- 2:08supporting our clinicians and empowering local teams and,
- 2:11you know, collaboration with our regional partners to
- 2:14create stronger and and more resilient health care
- 2:16systems. And and I think, you know, our
- 2:18our true philosophy is, you know, really simplistically
- 2:21put, you know, align people, culture, and strategy
- 2:24because we truly believe that when teams, you
- 2:26know, feel the ownership and communities
- 2:29truly feel heard, you know, performance follows. But
- 2:31I think I'll close with you know, I
- 2:33think the future of health care belongs to
- 2:34organizations that honor local identity And and while
- 2:37on tech, you know, integrating the system capabilities
- 2:40like we've seen with Newman, I think more
- 2:41importantly, combining our mission and innovation and operational
- 2:45discipline is to deliver that care, you know,
- 2:47that's that's compassionate and sustainable.
- 2:49It's really the work that we're doing every
- 2:51day at Newman, and it's just been an
- 2:52incredible rewarding
- 2:54journey to help build platforms and and allow
- 2:57real health care to thrive.
- 2:59And and let let me ask you this
- 3:00question. I recently looking at your your website,
- 3:04your
- 3:05post, and it seems like
- 3:07and and and maybe this is a reflection
- 3:09of rural health care. The amount of open
- 3:11jobs that you're trying to hire for currently
- 3:14seems significant.
- 3:16And that's a good thing. It means that
- 3:18the health system's thriving and needs people.
- 3:21At the same time, does that speak to
- 3:23sort of the challenges of staffing in rural
- 3:25areas today?
- 3:26We're seeing throughout the country, some places closed
- 3:28down labor and delivery and other things. Not
- 3:30because they want to, because they don't have
- 3:32the OB GYNs and and and the team
- 3:34to do it safely and greatly.
- 3:36What does hiring look like in the rural
- 3:38rural today?
- 3:39Oh, yeah. And I think that's a, you
- 3:40know, a great a great transfer of it,
- 3:42you know, into into some of the trends.
- 3:43And there there's six trends that, you know,
- 3:45we're looking at,
- 3:47very closely today, and and I think workforce
- 3:50sustainability
- 3:51is is a big one. You know? It
- 3:52continues to be the most the most critical
- 3:55issue. And I think that, your recruitment matters,
- 3:58but retention
- 3:59matters even more. Right? And and organizations
- 4:02that invest in
- 4:04culture, leadership development, and and clarity of its
- 4:07mission,
- 4:08you know, are seeing better engagement and stronger
- 4:10results. And and, you know, the future belongs
- 4:12to systems that treat people as their primary
- 4:14asset, you know, intentionally align culture and strategy.
- 4:17So we're we're forced to to really dive
- 4:19in that and and, you know, to and
- 4:21to take that and unpack that a little
- 4:22bit, you know, providing an open day care,
- 4:26on on campus that's no cost to employees.
- 4:29So,
- 4:30you know, single mom and dad or,
- 4:32you know, can drop off, you know, little
- 4:34little Johnny or Susie and and have lunch
- 4:36with them,
- 4:37each day. Or not we don't charge our
- 4:40employees lunch,
- 4:41each day, so they eat lunch for free.
- 4:44Covering things like in a rural area, Scott,
- 4:46where,
- 4:47you know, medevac,
- 4:49insurance is so expensive and cost cost restrictive
- 4:52in working with, the evac services. That's now
- 4:54part of our, you know, employment benefits package
- 4:57or immediate investing in 04/2001. So you have
- 4:59to be very novel to to really fight
- 5:01back. But as you see, even in a
- 5:04an organization that's grown sixfold,
- 5:06that's our it's still our greatest challenge.
- 5:09I mean, that's remarkable. Sixfold growth is remarkable.
- 5:12And and talk about some of the pipeline
- 5:14programs and what you're trying to do to
- 5:16make sure
- 5:17enough physicians, enough care, how much primary care
- 5:20is moving to MPs and PAs?
- 5:23And and it seems like many places are
- 5:24doing that with great quality. Talk to us
- 5:27a little bit about some of that transformation
- 5:28in workforce and how you're managing.
- 5:31Yes. Yeah.
- 5:32It's it's, you know, one one of the
- 5:33six six pillars. And so, you know, we're
- 5:35we're we're obviously paying very close attention to,
- 5:39you know, the access of expansion through virtual
- 5:41care and and specialty partnerships with independent providers
- 5:45and and even some of the the largest
- 5:47systems.
- 5:48You know, I think that we we talk
- 5:49about, you know, telehealth, and we're still struggling
- 5:52to get these extensions. You know, I think
- 5:53it's time we just make that permanent, and
- 5:55it's it's no longer a pilot.
- 5:57You know, it's infrastructure.
- 5:59And so, you know, I think the opportunity
- 6:02now using it, you know, telehealth strategically to
- 6:04bring higher acuity services and specialty care and
- 6:08clinical expertise into into smaller communities,
- 6:11you know, so patients don't have to travel
- 6:13hours per care
- 6:14is is huge, and it's a major focus
- 6:16to us. So, you know, really truly building
- 6:18scalable models that that keep that care local
- 6:22while leveraging system capabilities. And I think an
- 6:24example of that is, you know, we're we're
- 6:26working side by side with a very, very
- 6:28mission driven and and purpose driven organization that
- 6:31shares a lot of synergies between
- 6:34approach to health care, you know, with Mercy
- 6:36and and their virtual care,
- 6:38around ICU patients. And so it helps us
- 6:42you know, we're doing general surgery already, but
- 6:43we we'd like to to treat high little
- 6:45higher of a acuity of care. And so
- 6:48having that access to to Mercy's platform,
- 6:51enables us to have, you know, the intensivist,
- 6:54at Mercy coordinate and and work hand in
- 6:56hand with our hospitalist and on-site and our
- 6:59our our ICU nurses to keep care locally.
- 7:02And then, hey. Look. If that if that
- 7:04patient needs higher acuity of care,
- 7:06the the continuity of care is already established
- 7:09there with with, you know, our friends at
- 7:11Mercy. So
- 7:12leveraging some of those things, and then, of
- 7:15course, you know, we've seen some expansion around
- 7:17scope of practice with advanced practice and and
- 7:20PAs, and it's so important that we utilize
- 7:22those, you know, those those those folks and
- 7:25and their abilities and and scope of practice
- 7:27deliver care. And then we look at the
- 7:28strike with with maternity health in ensuring that
- 7:31we're leveraging
- 7:33certified nurse midwives, you know, in the primary
- 7:35care model as it's defined by CMS.
- 7:37And and to to bring those cost levels
- 7:40down with lower volumes, so these OB models
- 7:43sustain in rural health.
- 7:45Fantastic. And and and take a second, Tom.
- 7:48You look at 2026.
- 7:50You you you guys are so important in
- 7:52filling so many gaps in health care. Oklahoma's
- 7:55a growing state again, isn't it? Is it
- 7:57a growing state overall again with Oklahoma City
- 7:59growing so much and and Tulsa?
- 8:01What is what is the demographics of Oklahoma
- 8:03look like?
- 8:04Yeah. So I I would I would you're
- 8:06absolutely correct. You know, it's it's definitely growing
- 8:08Oklahoma City, but we are seeing, you know,
- 8:11some some reduction in population in the rural
- 8:13areas,
- 8:15Oklahoma, where, you know, oil and gas and
- 8:17and some of the, you know, the agriculture
- 8:19is, you know, declining. We're we're seeing less,
- 8:22young farmers in in
- 8:24in our country and the commercialization
- 8:27of of those types of industries. And so,
- 8:29you know, we
- 8:30we are seeing a little bit of a
- 8:32decline in our in our populations, in our,
- 8:33you know, in our rural area. And so,
- 8:35you know, for example, I mean, in in
- 8:37Shattuck,
- 8:38we're 1,200 people.
- 8:40I always joke, to my friends in the
- 8:42city, we don't have a stoplight, which is
- 8:44really cool. It makes makes traffic nonissue. And
- 8:47and so,
- 8:48but our county is only 3,600.
- 8:49So imagine, you know, that the whole county
- 8:51of Ellis County is is just 3,600 people.
- 8:54That's amazing. So what happens is the same
- 8:56story throughout America is that so many people
- 8:59are moving to the top thirty, forty, 50
- 9:01metro areas, and the rural areas
- 9:04are are being challenged. And if you don't
- 9:06have health care in the rural areas, it's
- 9:08really the death knell of the rural area.
- 9:09So thank God for critical access hospitals and
- 9:11people that do what you do.
- 9:14Take a moment, Tom. What are you most
- 9:16focused on and excited about as we head
- 9:18into 2026
- 9:19now? Oh, yes. I I think it's a
- 9:21really exciting year. I think that we've seen,
- 9:23you know, a ton of change in in
- 9:25legislation.
- 9:26And and I think it's important, Scott, as
- 9:28health care leaders look. As we mentioned, we
- 9:30started the call. We face a lot of
- 9:32challenges and but, you know, positivity,
- 9:35is really the key. And and not to
- 9:37dwell on the negative is is really to
- 9:39see it as as a challenge. But, you
- 9:41know, I think overall, really focused on building
- 9:43sustainable health care, you know, health care platforms
- 9:46that combine our mission and our our operational
- 9:48discipline and and and embrace that and and,
- 9:51we know with deep community connection. You know,
- 9:54I think what that means really for us
- 9:55is continuing to strengthen
- 9:57local access.
- 9:58Well, like, as you mentioned, integrating, you know,
- 10:00regional partnerships and expanding service lines like we
- 10:03have and, you know, investing in our people,
- 10:05you know, so they can deliver, you know,
- 10:07consistent, you know, clinical excellence. And but I
- 10:09I think what what really, Scott, what excites
- 10:11me the most
- 10:12is watching teams
- 10:14truly step into this ownership mentality at Newman.
- 10:16And and, you know, over the past year,
- 10:18we've been very intentional about aligning culture
- 10:22with strategy and and clarifying expectations and empowering
- 10:25leaders at every level and and building infrastructure
- 10:28that supports growth without losing community roots. Right?
- 10:31And and, you know, I think when that
- 10:32happens, momentum follows. And and, you know, but
- 10:35over this last six to eighteen months,
- 10:37you know, I'm really especially proud of how
- 10:39our organization has evolved from operating as a
- 10:42traditional rural hospital into functioning more like an
- 10:44integrated
- 10:45regional health care platform that you know, really,
- 10:47to put that in perspective, like we mentioned,
- 10:49you know, 1,200 people, no stoplight, and a
- 10:51county of 3,600. But when we looked at
- 10:54some some metrics yesterday,
- 10:56In 2025, we cared for patients from 18
- 10:59different states
- 11:01and a 174
- 11:02towns and cities with nearly
- 11:05nearly 40,000
- 11:07new unique encounters.
- 11:09So as we mentioned, just in three years,
- 11:10we've grown sixfold, and our clinic footprint extends
- 11:1348 miles from our, you know, our our
- 11:15main campus.
- 11:17That's one of my you know, our our
- 11:18biggest
- 11:19highlights and things that I'm I'm so proud
- 11:20of the team about. But I think the
- 11:22other is really sticking core to clinical excellence.
- 11:24And so we were the first rural health
- 11:26clinic in the nation to earn joint commission
- 11:29accreditation
- 11:30and the first critical access hospital in Oklahoma
- 11:33to achieve accreditation across all of the hospital
- 11:35and and clinical space spaces. So I think
- 11:37those those accomplishments reflect not just compliance,
- 11:41but a a culture of excellence and and
- 11:43aligning quality and safety and
- 11:46operations under one standard. So I think looking
- 11:48ahead
- 11:49in this bright future, I'm I'm really excited
- 11:51about continuing to scale these efforts and strengthening
- 11:53the integration, advancing clinical quality, and developing our
- 11:56leaders internally. And, you know, I really believe
- 11:59that future belongs to organizations that invest in
- 12:01people and honor local identity and leverage system
- 12:04capabilities,
- 12:05you know, to create these unique care models
- 12:07that are both compassionate and sustainable.
- 12:09You know, and and being part of that
- 12:10kind of transformation is what really truly energizes
- 12:13me every day.
- 12:14No. But I think that's so right. This
- 12:16concept of if you do great care in
- 12:19clinical excellence
- 12:20and really take care of your people, a
- 12:22lot of other things tend to go well
- 12:24and and a focus on those things. I
- 12:26I I love that, Tom. Tom, you've had
- 12:28this great career. I I'm gonna ask you
- 12:30a question. The the the the guess question
- 12:32I have is,
- 12:33do you feel guilty
- 12:35as an LSU fan stealing the Ole Miss
- 12:38coach
- 12:39in the middle of the college playoffs or
- 12:41right near the college playoffs or not really?
- 12:44You you know, I'm a I'm a true
- 12:45I'm a true believer that, you know, our
- 12:48our paths are written.
- 12:49And I think when sometimes the the timing
- 12:52may not be right for everybody,
- 12:54but maybe that unique individual, it is. And
- 12:57I think we definitely have to be respectful
- 12:59of that. I guess it's a nice a
- 13:01nice way of saying, I'm super happy about
- 13:02that transition to Dallas here. So
- 13:06Fair enough. Fair enough. So, Evan, actually, say
- 13:08no. And a great fun for LSU. Great
- 13:09fun for Ole Miss. What a great season.
- 13:11And and Lane is fascinating to watch. Love
- 13:13him or hate him. He's freaking fascinating to
- 13:15watch. Talk about the advice you would give
- 13:18to emerging leaders.
- 13:19Yeah. I think that, you know, in in
- 13:21and the truth is, yeah, and I am
- 13:22I am very faith at our core, and
- 13:24I think a lot of the rural communities,
- 13:26you you see the communities around, you know,
- 13:28the faith and family and community is kind
- 13:30of the the three pillars. But, you know,
- 13:32I think I think the best performing,
- 13:34organizations
- 13:35in our in our nation and those that
- 13:37are very successful
- 13:39really would probably start by saying, like, look,
- 13:41lead with humility and purpose.
- 13:43And and health care is, you know, ultimately
- 13:46a people business. I mean, it's it truly
- 13:48is. It's no different than consumer products. And
- 13:51and I think that, you know, involving leaders,
- 13:54have to stay grounded in service, you know,
- 13:57to patients and teams and the communities that
- 13:58they serve.
- 14:00We you know, the the day of titles,
- 14:01you know, they just don't they don't create
- 14:03trust. You know, I think presence does.
- 14:06And, you know, I think, you know, in
- 14:08invest deeply as we talked about in culture.
- 14:10You know, strategy matters. Absolutely. But culture determines
- 14:14truly whether the strategy will be successful or
- 14:17not, and being intentional about building environments where
- 14:20people feel heard and supported and accountable.
- 14:23Like we mentioned, I think that the teams
- 14:24feel ownership and understand the mission, you know,
- 14:27performance
- 14:28follows.
- 14:29And I think thirdly, you
- 14:31know, learn how to balance local leadership with
- 14:33system thinking. And today's health care leaders, you
- 14:35know, must be able to to honor community
- 14:37identity while integrating
- 14:39broader organizational capabilities. Right? And that means by
- 14:43embracing standardization where it improves quality and efficiency,
- 14:45but preserving the relationships
- 14:48that that trust, you know, that that make
- 14:50care personal. And, I think fourth,
- 14:54you know, commit operational discipline. Strong leaders truly
- 14:57understand that clinical excellence and financial stewardship and
- 15:01and workforce engagement are inseparable. And, you know,
- 15:04don't chase the volume for volume's sake, but
- 15:07build sustainable platforms that truly
- 15:10deliver, you know, the quality and access and
- 15:12stability over long term. And I think, Scott,
- 15:14you'll finally, you know, I'd say stay rational.
- 15:17Right?
- 15:18Spend time with the frontline caregivers.
- 15:21Be very visible in your community.
- 15:23Build partnerships with physicians and EMS and local
- 15:26stakeholders. And,
- 15:28you know, I think the most effective leader
- 15:29and what's really helped us be successful here
- 15:31is, you know, those that listen well, develop
- 15:35others, and create clarity in in these these
- 15:38times of of massive amounts of change. Right?
- 15:41And and, you know, I think if I
- 15:42could truly
- 15:44maybe summarize all that up, it's like we
- 15:46said, you know, align people to culture and
- 15:48strategy.
- 15:50And and when you lead with mission and
- 15:52purpose,
- 15:53invest in your teams, operate with integrity and
- 15:55discipline.
- 15:56You you don't just improve the performance,
- 15:59but you you truly are building organization
- 16:01that communities can trust for generations. And that's
- 16:04that's kind of what we're we're we're we're
- 16:05gunning for and achieving, I think, and the
- 16:07team is achieving here at Newman.
- 16:09Fantastic.
- 16:10Tom, what an amazing leadership career. You're you're
- 16:13doing fantastic work.
- 16:15We recognize you constantly at Becker's Health. We're
- 16:17big, big fans. Thank you so much for
- 16:19joining us today on on the Becker's health
- 16:21care podcast.
- 16:23Of of course. And and thank you to
- 16:24to Scott and your team. I you know,
- 16:26Becker's is always the the first thing that
- 16:28I read in the morning, and,
- 16:30you know, I think it's so important to
- 16:32I mean, you all keep us connected in
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- 16:36contribution to the health care ecosystem to see
- 16:39what our peers are doing and see what's
- 16:40working and not. And you you all just
- 16:42do such an exceptional job. And I'm I'm
- 16:44so grateful and honored to to be be
- 16:46on with you all this morning. Thank you,
- 16:47and look forward to seeing you in the
- 16:48upcoming conference here in in April.
- 16:50Tom, looking forward. Thank you so much as
- 16:52always. Thank you. Thanks, Scott.