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- 0:07who that to the who that nation welcome to the who that say podcast your podcast for the new orleans saints here on the kb radio network i am your fellow who that and host kevin reed in
- 0:23week three people week three is in the books and the new orleans saints drop
- 0:29their home opener to the Las Vegas Raiders by the score of 35 to 27,
- 0:36bringing their record to one and two on the season thus far.
- 0:40Let me tell you,
- 0:42this is not going to be a long show today.
- 0:45The reason being,
- 0:46the reason being not because I'm mad,
- 0:50you know,
- 0:51or anything like that is that
- 0:54I really don't have anything new to say.
- 0:58Nothing new to say.
- 1:00I am so frustrated with this team and every single week it seems like it's like it's groundhog's day.
- 1:09We're doing the same thing over and over and over again.
- 1:16The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result every time but it's not working man.
- 1:26Now I'll give the Saints this much credit.
- 1:29At least this week,
- 1:31they started off a little better.
- 1:34This week,
- 1:35the Saints broke the streak.
- 1:37We actually led at the end of the first quarter for the first time in 23 attempts.
- 1:45That's crazy,
- 1:46ain't it?
- 1:47We finally scored in the first quarter and actually had the lead going into the second.
- 1:53Amazing.
- 1:55We actually outgained.
- 1:59our opponent in every single category passing yards rushing yards overall uh turnovers unfortunately which was our demise we time of possession we led in every single category and we still lost this game i i
- 2:20am so frustrated with it because you look back over the last three weeks,
- 2:27the first three weeks of this season.
- 2:29Detroit,
- 2:31Baltimore,
- 2:33and this team,
- 2:35the Las Vegas Raiders.
- 2:37The Saints could easily be 3-0.
- 2:42Not because Detroit were that good.
- 2:46Not because the Raiders are that good.
- 2:50The Saints were better each week.
- 2:54They were better than the
- 2:55Ravens last week,
- 2:56hence they won.
- 2:59they were better than these two teams and they let the game go they lost that game in detroit the turnovers the turnovers the stupid play calling the stupid refs played a part all that played a part in our demise in detroit this week same thing like i said groundhog's day we were in firm control of this game we were up by double digits
- 3:29in the second half,
- 3:31and all of a sudden the wheels came off.
- 3:34Stopped running the ball,
- 3:36refs making stupid calls,
- 3:39or not making calls,
- 3:41and turning the ball over.
- 3:45And we lost the game.
- 3:47It's the same thing.
- 3:49Other than their tight end,
- 3:51their being the
- 3:54Las Vegas Raiders,
- 3:56their tight end Bowman.
- 3:58can you name anybody on the las vegas raiders team that took over the game or played a part in the saints demise i'll wait i'll take your time i'm gonna go grab a coke and just let me know when you're ready to answer because there's nobody there is nobody on that team that came in and collectively just said okay we came to play i can say for the saint chris olave came to
- 4:29I can say that
- 4:31Jawan Johnson came to play.
- 4:32I can say that Alvin Kamara came to play.
- 4:35I can say that even Noah Fant came to play.
- 4:38All the tight ends on both sides of the ball.
- 4:41I think the tight ends were the only ones to score touchdowns today.
- 4:45It was tight end touchdown day in the Dome.
- 4:49But aside from that,
- 4:52you know,
- 4:53who played for the Raiders that were a threat to the Raiders?
- 4:56Nobody.
- 4:57Max
- 4:58Crosby, he wasn't a factor until late.
- 5:00He made that,
- 5:01what,
- 5:01maybe two big plays?
- 5:03And I guess that's the only two plays that mattered,
- 5:05because of the fumble on one.
- 5:07But,
- 5:08man,
- 5:09this is so crushing because you had the game in hand,
- 5:14and you lost it.
- 5:15Three turnovers by the New Orleans Saints in the fourth quarter allowed the Raiders to escape with a 35-27 victory.
- 5:24Pretty much ruining,
- 5:25not pretty much,
- 5:26but ruining the Saints'
- 5:28home opener in the Dome.
- 5:31Tyler Shuck.
- 5:33One day removed from his birthday.
- 5:34I think his birthday is tomorrow,
- 5:36Monday,
- 5:37where he turns 27 years old.
- 5:39He,
- 5:40in the first half,
- 5:41it was the tale of two halves with this young man.
- 5:45He looked phenomenal.
- 5:46He looked like an MVP in that first half.
- 5:49Four touchdowns,
- 5:50a career high,
- 5:52and then,
- 5:53poof,
- 5:55he turned into hot garbage in the second half.
- 5:58Oh,
- 5:58my God.
- 6:00It was murder for him.
- 6:01The second-year pro.
- 6:03Like I said,
- 6:03he had four touchdown passes,
- 6:05all of them the tight ends,
- 6:06but he lost the fumble.
- 6:08He threw an interception on that very next possession after that,
- 6:13and he was never no more good.
- 6:15Las Vegas scored on both of those turnovers,
- 6:18and at that point they took control of the game in the fourth quarter.
- 6:23The Saints had one last chance at the end to kind of tie it up,
- 6:29but Jawan Johnson fumbled with.
- 6:3153 seconds left in the game to pretty much seal the deal for
- 6:35Las Vegas.
- 6:36They are now 3-0 on the season.
- 6:38Undefeated,
- 6:39Saints are
- 6:401-2 along with the rest of the division.
- 6:42Everybody is 1-2 in the division with the exception of Tampa,
- 6:46who haven't won a game yet.
- 6:49I did not have that on the bingo card.
- 6:52We had some injuries today.
- 6:54Pete Warner,
- 6:56who was our leading tackler going into this game,
- 6:59he left in the first quarter.
- 7:01I think the first half maybe with a stinger.
- 7:06Carl Granderson,
- 7:07he left with an ankle injury in the third quarter,
- 7:10but he did return.
- 7:14What's his name?
- 7:15Jennings.
- 7:17Afany Jennings,
- 7:18he left in the fourth quarter with a knee injury.
- 7:20But the biggest one,
- 7:21the most glaring one,
- 7:23is our running back,
- 7:24newly acquired running back,
- 7:27Travis Eachen.
- 7:28He left in the third quarter with a hamstring injury.
- 7:31And,
- 7:32man,
- 7:35it was like that's fitting because that was his best run in a Saints uniform.
- 7:41He came across that line or turned that corner,
- 7:46and he was gone.
- 7:47If he wouldn't have pulled up with that hamstring,
- 7:49he probably still running.
- 7:52He was gone.
- 7:53And as soon as he reached back,
- 7:55I knew it.
- 7:56I'm like,
- 7:56oh,
- 7:57no.
- 7:58Oh,
- 7:59no.
- 8:00Because.
- 8:00They had something going there because you had Echin and Kamara in the backfield at the same time.
- 8:07The Raiders'
- 8:07defense didn't know what to do.
- 8:09That formation messed their defense up because you didn't know who was getting the ball,
- 8:15if they were getting the ball.
- 8:18It was madness.
- 8:19It threw them off so much.
- 8:21But once he went down,
- 8:23they went away from that,
- 8:24and the game pretty much turned from that moment.
- 8:29Next week,
- 8:30the Saints will have their first division game at home in our first primetime game in two years,
- 8:38Monday Night Football against the Atlanta Falcons on October 5th.
- 8:43I'm not,
- 8:45well,
- 8:45I'll say the predictions or anything because I got to really think about it.
- 8:49I got to get over this game first.
- 8:51But
- 8:52I'm not 100%
- 8:53confident about that game.
- 8:54I'll just say it like that.
- 8:57Let's go over the stats of this game.
- 9:00Like I said,
- 9:00this is going to be a quick show.
- 9:01I have nothing to say about this team.
- 9:05I'm really embarrassed by them,
- 9:06to be quite honest with you.
- 9:08That was embarrassing to give a game away like that.
- 9:12Let's go with passing.
- 9:13Tyler Shuck,
- 9:14he was 29 of 42,
- 9:15255 yards,
- 9:18four touchdowns and one interception.
- 9:20He was sacked twice today.
- 9:23Kirk Cousins for the Raiders,
- 9:25he was 22 of 32.
- 9:26248 yards passing
- 9:303 touchdowns today he was sacked 3 times and let me just say this there was no reason Tyler Shupp should have been dropping back 42 times absolutely no excuse for that no excuse whatsoever the
- 9:52game was never out of reach actually at one point
- 9:55the game was well in hand we were up by two scores and you're still dropping back it was
- 10:03unnecessary and you lost the game kellen moore it that's it's all kellen moore his play calling is the reason we lost this game going to the rushing yardage uh travis before he went out travis eachin jr he had 13 carries for 57 yards uh tyler shuck he had one carry for 36 yards alvin camara nine carries for 36 yards kendray miller four carries for 14 yards and cj donaldson
- 10:32one carry for five yards i don't know what happened to him all these third and ones and fourth and ones that we tried why wasn't cj down in it please explain did he get hurt if he was hurt let me know i didn't see it on pop up on the post game report so apparently he wasn't hurt so i don't know why he wasn't in the game uh for the raiders uh ashton gentry he carried the ball 19 times for 56 yards.
- 11:00Mike Williams Jr.
- 11:015.
- 11:02carries for
- 11:0354 yards and a touchdown.
- 11:05Kirk Cousins carried the ball three times for three yards.
- 11:08Leading receiver for the Saints was Chris Olave,
- 11:10nine catches for 107 yards today.
- 11:14Jawan Johnson had eight catches for 53 yards and two touchdowns.
- 11:19Devon Bailey,
- 11:20three catches for 39 yards.
- 11:23Noah Fant,
- 11:24four catches for 33 yards and two touchdowns.
- 11:29Travis Etienne or Etienne.
- 11:32I keep getting them both confused.
- 11:33I don't know which one is proper.
- 11:36But he had two catches for 13 yards.
- 11:39Leading receiver for the
- 11:41Las Vegas Raiders,
- 11:42of course,
- 11:43was Brock
- 11:43Bowers. They're tied in that they did not prepare for.
- 11:48You're not going to tell me the Saints prepared for him.
- 11:51He was on the injury report all week,
- 11:53and it was like a late decision to start him in this game.
- 11:57And the Saints,
- 11:58they act like they didn't know he was playing.
- 12:01He was wide open the entire game.
- 12:04He had
- 12:0510 catches for 116 yards and a touchdown.
- 12:09Trey Tucker had four catches for
- 12:1243 yards.
- 12:14Ashton Gentry,
- 12:15three catches for 37 yards.
- 12:17Mike
- 12:18Mayer, three catches for 32 yards and a touchdown.
- 12:22Jalen Naylor,
- 12:23one catch for 16 yards.
- 12:27Fumbles.
- 12:28Fumbles today.
- 12:29There were more fumbles than...
- 12:30the law allowed today uh uh the saints fumbled the ball four times as a team um only three of them were lost if that's any consolation um for uh las vegas raiders they
- 12:46fumbled the ball three times today they only lost one hence the difference uh on defense uh kate nellis he led the team in tackles with nine for the raiders it was nicole b
- 13:00Dean with 12.
- 13:03Team stats,
- 13:04starting with first downs,
- 13:06Saints had 27 first downs,
- 13:08Raiders 24.
- 13:10Total plays,
- 13:11Saints 72,
- 13:12Raiders
- 13:1364. Total yardage,
- 13:16Saints
- 13:17381 to the Raiders
- 13:20340. Total drives,
- 13:24Raiders had the ball
- 13:2612 times to the Saints 11.
- 13:29Yards per play,
- 13:31Saints 5.3 yards per play to the Raiders 5.4 yards per play.
- 13:38Passing,
- 13:39Saints led in that as well,
- 13:40233 yards to the Raiders 2-2-7.
- 13:46Rushing,
- 13:47Saints outgamed them on the ground,
- 13:49148 yards to the Raiders
- 13:521-13. On third downs,
- 13:55or red zone,
- 13:56I should say,
- 13:57Raiders were 3-4.
- 13:59Six in the red zone.
- 14:02Whereas the Saints were four for four in the red zone.
- 14:06That is phenomenal from a team that has struggled.
- 14:10That's the one improvement that the Saints have that I can kind of be happy about.
- 14:17That they improved upon.
- 14:20But on third down,
- 14:22Saints were nine for 15.
- 14:25Raiders were seven for 12.
- 14:28abilities.
- 14:29this was another big bugger boo saints had eight penalties for 36 yards raiders five penalties for 19 yards and the death knell for the saints today turnovers saints had four turnovers to the raiders one
- 14:45time of possession saints own time of possession 32 minutes and 28 seconds to the Raiders,
- 14:5327 minutes and 32 seconds.
- 14:57It is a...
- 14:59It's upsetting to read stat lines like this.
- 15:03and wonder how you lost the game whereas you i mean you literally won every category but the one glaring one the one that that's that's just sticking out more than any of them turnovers you lose the turnover battle more
- 15:23often than not you're gonna lose the game okay uh let's go to the grades here let's get this out the way let's rip the band-aid off people
- 15:33uh the grades for the saints performance against the las vegas raiders in their home opener how we do the grades here on the who that say podcast i grade the offense defense special teams and coaching uh round up all those grades and give you an overall grade for today's game let's start with offense offense started off good offense was looking good uh passing the ball looked great running the ball looked even greater
- 16:03And then all of a sudden,
- 16:05the Saints forgot how to do both.
- 16:08Even
- 16:11Asim
- 16:12Richards, our backup left tackle,
- 16:16he did a great job today,
- 16:18I feel.
- 16:18I feel he did really good filling in for Calvin Banks Jr.
- 16:23Everything was working.
- 16:25Everything was working.
- 16:26And then the bottom fell out.
- 16:30It looked like a completely different team offensively.
- 16:33They couldn't move the ball.
- 16:35They couldn't run the ball.
- 16:36They couldn't throw the ball.
- 16:37They couldn't hold on to the ball.
- 16:41It was embarrassing.
- 16:42It really looked embarrassing.
- 16:44It's like the moment got too big for them.
- 16:46It's like they got a big lead and didn't know what to do with that lead,
- 16:51giving up 13 points in the fourth quarter.
- 16:54We're having opportunities to pull away,
- 16:56but they didn't.
- 16:57The offense gets a C-.
- 16:59And the only reason it's graded that high is because they looked phenomenal for two and a half quarters.
- 17:06And just flip-flop.
- 17:10It's weird.
- 17:11It's a flip-flop from the previous two weeks.
- 17:14They start off slow.
- 17:15They don't really start getting the gears turning until the middle of the third quarter.
- 17:22And then Tyler Shuck looks like the second coming of Drew Brees.
- 17:25Well,
- 17:26it was flip-flop today.
- 17:28It was the complete opposite.
- 17:31I don't get it,
- 17:32man.
- 17:32We cannot put a game,
- 17:33a complete game together on offense.
- 17:37But defense weren't too far off.
- 17:39Defense gets a letter grade of a C.
- 17:44They act like Bowers didn't even factor into the game plan.
- 17:50It was like it was no plan at all.
- 17:53There was no accounting for them.
- 17:56Even if he wasn't in the plan,
- 17:58people,
- 17:59even if y'all prepared all week and,
- 18:02oh,
- 18:03he's playing.
- 18:03Oh,
- 18:04that throws off some things.
- 18:05He was playing.
- 18:07You had to account for him.
- 18:09There had to be some accountability there.
- 18:12He's on the field.
- 18:13He was wide open the entire first half.
- 18:16Now,
- 18:17I'll give them just a smidgen of credit.
- 18:20In the second half,
- 18:21they kind of shut him down.
- 18:23Aside from that one
- 18:24One catch he had for a touchdown,
- 18:26which was big,
- 18:28but that was the only time you heard his name in the second half.
- 18:32But the first half,
- 18:32that 116,
- 18:35that was all in the first half.
- 18:38So
- 18:40I don't know what the defense was thinking.
- 18:43I really don't know what they were thinking.
- 18:46They get a C.
- 18:47Special teams gets a C.
- 18:50You get an extra point blocked.
- 18:53You short.
- 18:54kick the kickoff,
- 18:57giving them a short field,
- 18:59which they end up scoring from.
- 19:01It was just some real bonehead things.
- 19:03Now,
- 19:03they did get a turnover on special teams,
- 19:07but they also almost had one on special teams.
- 19:09So it was just whatever.
- 19:13Yeah,
- 19:13they get a C.
- 19:14Coaching gets a D.
- 19:16Coaching gets a D.
- 19:20The defensive coaching staff gets a part of that because
- 19:23They didn't prepare for Bowers,
- 19:25which was your kryptonite to date.
- 19:27And then you had those long drives that one drive in particular that took place after the Saints went up by the two scores.
- 19:38And for the first time in the game,
- 19:40the Raiders had to travel the length of the field,
- 19:43and they actually did it with ease.
- 19:46I mean,
- 19:46they went straight down the field.
- 19:47No resistance from the defense at all.
- 19:51Yeah.
- 19:53It got them back in the game.
- 19:54They just got right back in the game.
- 19:56Saints didn't respond after that.
- 19:58And offensively,
- 20:00I didn't touch on that enough.
- 20:01You know,
- 20:01Kelly Moore has failed.
- 20:03his quarterback.
- 20:04You know,
- 20:05you're putting too much pressure on Tyler Shuck.
- 20:08Tyler Shuck is a phenomenal quarterback.
- 20:10I think he is our future.
- 20:12He is a great addition to this team,
- 20:15and I think he's going to work out well,
- 20:17but you cannot have this man throwing
- 20:2050 times a game,
- 20:2242 times a game,
- 20:2539 times a game,
- 20:26you know,
- 20:27all this other stuff,
- 20:28and you have running backs.
- 20:30You have running backs.
- 20:32You have a...
- 20:33A running back room where you can actually run the ball and you refuse to do it because you want to show off this nice,
- 20:41shiny Ferrari you have in the driveway.
- 20:44Instead of using the Tonka truck or that Toyota Tundra that you have in the running back room because you want to be the flashy team.
- 20:54No,
- 20:55no.
- 20:56Everybody is sold on Shuck.
- 20:58You don't need to prove nothing there.
- 21:01So let it go.
- 21:02Stop.
- 21:03Protect the man.
- 21:04Because you're going to get him killed.
- 21:06You're going to get him killed dropping back
- 21:1040 plus times a game.
- 21:12And you're definitely not going to win.
- 21:14Overall,
- 21:14the Saints get a C- today.
- 21:16And I'm being generous.
- 21:18Very,
- 21:19very generous.
- 21:20Because the Saints should have won this game,
- 21:22could have won this game,
- 21:24and they gave it away.
- 21:25The Raiders didn't do anything.
- 21:27Sorry to say that the Raiders,
- 21:29with all due respect,
- 21:30they won the game.
- 21:32They won the game,
- 21:33but nothing from the Raiders screamed that we went there and took it.
- 21:38We went and took it away,
- 21:39even with the turnovers.
- 21:41Those were bonehead turnovers that the Saints made.
- 21:44They weren't forced,
- 21:45in my humble opinion.
- 21:46Maybe one,
- 21:48but aside from that,
- 21:50everything else was the Saints trying to make something happen when they didn't have to.
- 21:54We went down by one point,
- 21:56and Kelly Moore is calling plays on offense like we were down by 30 points.
- 22:04Throw,
- 22:04Throw,
- 22:05We're down by one point with a whole quarter left to play.
- 22:10What are you doing?
- 22:11What are you doing?
- 22:14Even in the end of the game,
- 22:15in the fourth quarter,
- 22:16he's still acting like we were down by double-digit.
- 22:20It was a one-possession game,
- 22:22and you're making bonehead decisions.
- 22:25My God,
- 22:26third and one,
- 22:27shotgun.
- 22:29Fourth and one,
- 22:30shotgun.
- 22:31what are you doing what is this play calling can somebody please explain this to me and this is boneheaded play calling that you will lose in any pop warner team playing uh coaching like that and you want a super bowl as
- 22:50an offensive coordinator i can't tell i can tell well clint kubiak won a super bowl as an offensive coordinator he knew how to protect the league
- 23:01Not this Yahoo.
- 23:05Anyways,
- 23:06Saints lose.
- 23:07Saints are 1-2.
- 23:08Saints,
- 23:10we're back at home.
- 23:11Monday night football.
- 23:13I guess we'll see how it goes.
- 23:15We'll see how this goes.
- 23:18You had the crowd engaged in this game.
- 23:21It was loud.
- 23:22It was rumpus.
- 23:24Everybody was into it.
- 23:26We're craving for this.
- 23:29And then you gave it away.
- 23:31And the crowd just went silent.
- 23:33I thought everybody left until they showed the crowd.
- 23:36Everybody just sitting there like,
- 23:37yep.
- 23:40Everybody just sitting there knowing what's to come.
- 23:44We've seen this movie before.
- 23:45The popcorn is stale.
- 23:47We've been here.
- 23:48So,
- 23:49man,
- 23:49I don't know how that Monday night game is going to be.
- 23:52It's probably going to be ramped up due to the fact that it's Atlanta,
- 23:56the rivalry game.
- 23:58you
- 23:59I also think that it's going to be more Atlanta than
- 24:02Saints, sadly,
- 24:03because there was a large number of Raiders fans in the Dome today,
- 24:08which was upsetting.
- 24:10But it is what it is.
- 24:13Once again,
- 24:14Saints fall to the Raiders,
- 24:1535-27.
- 24:19Man,
- 24:20boy,
- 24:20I hate we gave this one away.
- 24:22Anyways,
- 24:22I would like to know what are your thoughts on this game.
- 24:27Do you know?
- 24:28Do you think you know what the secret sauce is?
- 24:32What's the reason we keep doing this week in and week out?
- 24:39Can't put a team away.
- 24:40Can't just flat out play four quarters of good football.
- 24:45Can somebody please out there let me know?
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- 25:20listening i can't even talk now i'm so mad i'm trying to get out of here so fast it ain't even funny
- 25:27It's not even funny people to the who that's a podcast here on the KB radio network everybody Thank you for joining me for this recap and reaction to the Saints loss to the Las Vegas Raiders 35 to 27 I'll be back later this week to preview the New Orleans Saints week 4 matchup against our hated rivals the Atlanta
- 25:50Falcons until then I'm gonna be screaming to the top of my lungs even after today
- 25:56Who dat?