Latest / Migraine Healing Oasis / Ep 15. Lessons from My Extended Sick Leave: What Helped Me Heal from Burnout and Chronic Migraine
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- 0:53It is the five year anniversary of me going off on sick leave, and I thought I would do an episode on the lessons that I've learned.
- 1:02I was out of work for five months and then slowly integrated back in very slowly, like 10% working, then 20%, it was, months and months before I was back to about 80%.
- 1:15And then it was very clear that I was leaving the company.
- 1:18I never went back a hundred percent actually even a year after going out on sick leave.
- 1:23I tried to reintegrate back into work that didn't, yeah, obviously work.
- 1:27I just did not want to go back to that position.
- 1:30They allowed me to find a temporary position until I could find a permanent position.
- 1:34And that was in the mindfulness and the, employee wellness, diversity and inclusion, stress management, all these kind of topics were being worked on.
- 1:45I loved that position and it fueled the fire for me internally of, yes, this is the type of work I wanna do.
- 1:52I wanna do self-development, I wanna help people outta stress related illness.
- 1:55I thought it was going to be helping people avoid burnout.
- 2:00And then going into coaching schools and trying to figure out, what's my niche going to be?
- 2:04Migraine then became a topic, okay, I know a lot about this and it became clear this was a symptom that I could recover from because I was, and I got very excited about helping others do the same.
- 2:16So little of the backstory there.
- 2:19I actually found a presentation that I had given to my work colleagues.
- 2:23Now mind you, at the time that I went on sick leave, I was so stressed about what would these people think of me.
- 2:32I was in management in pharma at the time.
- 2:34It was a job you just didn't wanna look weak in, and you needed to be on top of your game.
- 2:40I wanted people to respect me and to think of me as a qualified and a competent person.
- 2:48I had this kind of like imposter syndrome sometimes, and I was struggling to keep up with the workload and feeling bad about that, I always had on top of my mind.
- 2:57What are people thinking of me?
- 2:59I, I just, that was so important to me.
- 3:02I was giving this presentation to colleagues that were all pharma executives.
- 3:06It's funny looking back at this.
- 3:07I haven't looked at this since 2021 . A couple people did come up to me afterwards just saying how brave they thought it was, that I completely was raw in telling my story.
- 3:18I felt at the time really passionate about the fact I saw so clearly what stress had done to my body and the mind body connection that I had learned of and how this environment we were in was coming out in my body in sensations and symptoms.
- 3:35It was like a warning to them.
- 3:36I felt very, I don't know, somehow obliged that now I had this information and I needed to share it with others that, Hey, this environment It's so dysregulating to the nervous system.
- 3:47It's damaging to our health.
- 3:49Yes, we're in drug development and in pharma, but we need to look at this in a more holistic way.
- 3:55So I do look back on this and think, yeah, it was a bit brave to push against the biomedical system.
- 4:03As I was giving this presentation.
- 4:05Also some of the topics that I was talking about with, getting in touch with their emotions and different things.
- 4:09But, they were all friends and colleagues, so it was, quite natural for me to be able to talk openly to them.
- 4:15But to this point, when I went out on sick leave, it was that aspect of what do these people think of me?
- 4:22They're going to think I couldn't handle the stress.
- 4:24They're going to think ill of me.
- 4:26I'm putting more work on them now.
- 4:28I had a lot of shame and guilt around that.
- 4:30Everybody's gonna know.
- 4:32Don't give Karen any more assignments, don't give her any big projects to manage because, she's fragile now.
- 4:39She can't handle it.
- 4:40So I was really very conscious of that and scared of that, that I had just killed my career.
- 4:45in hindsight.
- 4:47Thank Goodness I killed my career in the next year anyway, I pulled the plug and said, no, no more.
- 4:53I want more for myself.
- 4:55So yeah.
- 4:56So anyway, without further ado, let me get into I first started talking about that I had been under stress for 30 years.
- 5:03This wasn't just this latest job.
- 5:05I had stress for ages.
- 5:07I went into some of those aspects of going to university or positions that I got outside of graduating.
- 5:14They were high pressure sales management positions.
- 5:17I had a meeting planning company for 10 years that I was doing meetings worldwide for pharma companies.
- 5:23So there was always stress and that wasn't the problem.
- 5:26It was how I managed the stress.
- 5:28I went into some of that and then saying in mid stage of all this, I was having a lot of different things, like I was uncomfortable with change and we had a lot of change in that environment.
- 5:38We had restructurings very often.
- 5:41I was nervous about financial security and that was a generational trauma.
- 5:46My mother was always having this nervousness of, do we have enough?
- 5:49Will there be enough?
- 5:50Her parents grew up in the Great Depression.
- 5:52Her grandparents came over on the boat from Germany and struggled to make it for a bit.
- 5:58There was this underlying stuff that I didn't even know.
- 6:01Then my department had been outsourced, and then we came into another position and it was more around the governance and compliance around our interactions with healthcare professionals and patients.
- 6:12Well, that job was not anything that I signed up for.
- 6:16And it was very, tedious.
- 6:18I had to learn all the laws of the various countries that we were operating in and stuff that I felt outta my depths.
- 6:24And I learned it and I was able to be good at it.
- 6:27But, not anything I loved or had passion for.
- 6:29I mentioned a death of a loved one, two dogs that I adored passed away within that year before all this came to a head.
- 6:38Our global lockdown, being worried about aging parents.
- 6:42That's a big one for a lot of people.
- 6:44And just avoiding my emotions and really overcompensating with work and other distractions in general.
- 6:53How this started showing up was chronic stress related illness and overwhelm and memory issues and brain fog and concentration issues and migraines increasing.
- 7:06Waking up in the night with panic and this to-do list, I forgot to do this, I forgot to do that.
- 7:10And just like always in this, uh, panic almost every night, and exhaustion, irritability, all the things that come with it.
- 7:17Chest and heart pain.
- 7:18And then, I went out on sick leave.
- 7:21I never said the word burnout to this group.
- 7:23I just said, then I went out on doctor's leave in June of 2020.
- 7:27I have not used that word until this year, five years later, which is really interesting.
- 7:34I was so shameful of this.
- 7:36Feeling like I couldn't hack it and what is everybody gonna think of me.
- 7:40There was actually a girl on a podcast that I listened to last year, and she was talking so freely about, well, when I burned out and dah, dah, dah, dah.
- 7:48And I just thought.
- 7:49Oh, like, what is she doing?
- 7:51Like everybody's gonna know like that she burned out.
- 7:54And at some point it hit me like, why are you so ashamed of this?
- 7:57Why are you, you know, the migraines aren't a thing, but the burnout for some reason is a heavier weight, as like feeling like a failure or something, or I don't know.
- 8:06I need to do some more, processing of that, I think, because obviously there's still some emotions underneath that.
- 8:12I'm getting used to it and I'm starting to really own it and I want to normalize it.
- 8:18Hey, this is happens when we push ourselves too hard and when we lack self-care and when we lack self-compassion and boundaries and all this other.
- 8:28So, I do really feel strongly now to name it what it was and let's move on.
- 8:33The first lesson learned was having an honest, brutal self-awareness is so important.
- 8:41You really need to take time to get to know yourself.
- 8:43And I thought I had done that.
- 8:45I did a lot of therapy and coaching and I really thought that I was pretty self-aware and self evolved.
- 8:52It turns out I was not at all.
- 8:55We were working on things, yes, from childhood or different hurts or wounding, different situations with relationships and that kind of thing.
- 9:03But to know myself as the stuff that was causing me internal stress, I just really did not realize that, say my perfectionism and how hard I was on myself.
- 9:15I was beating myself up all the time.
- 9:17This inner critic was just incessantly telling me that I was no good at that or I was messing that up or I wasn't right.
- 9:27And it was going out with my name on it and how to be right.
- 9:30There was just such an intensity to how I was operating because in hindsight, it was a control factor.
- 9:37I needed to control my environment to feel safe, and this is why perfectionism and people pleasing and all these other things come in.
- 9:45I call it a personality trait, but it's more than that.
- 9:47It's a coping mechanism and a strategy that we come up with as children, actually, and it's a learned thing.
- 9:55When did you learn that you needed to be perfect or things needed to be perfect?
- 9:59Somewhere along the way, either a caretaker or a partner or something along the way has taught you that what you're doing isn't good enough, and that more was needed to be done, to be accepted, to be loved, to be part of the community, to feel, a part of the group, whatever the case may be.
- 10:23I was talking about, the self-awareness and it's more about yeah, what your coping strategies are.
- 10:29This people pleasing and over analyzing and you have this fear of missing out.
- 10:34So you're constantly trying to not say no to things because you really wanna feel like you're not missing out on something, or fear of failure, or your reputation is so important, understanding what's underneath all that because that is the root of what needs to be worked on.
- 10:52Perfectionism.
- 10:53Another lesson learned that it's just not, uh, a thing that what is perfect to me is not perfect to you, and I'm striving for something that is a creation of perfection that I learned from others that really made no sense.
- 11:11And it put so much pressure on myself.
- 11:13Nobody really was looking that hard at me.
- 11:16They were all concerned about their own stuff.
- 11:18Everybody else was just struggling to keep their head above water.
- 11:22So what I was doing and if the Excel document was exactly, color coordinated and whatever, the level of detail that I worried about was just ridiculous.
- 11:33In hindsight, I do feel like that was.
- 11:36Another way that I was just distracting myself from feeling emotions and dealing with anything at home and bringing work home and working so many hours was just an escape.
- 11:47I mean, that's pretty clear to me now.
- 11:49The other lesson learned was mindset.
- 11:51Mindset and belief is everything.
- 11:55This was a talk to pharmaceutical people, so they knew the placebo effect . We had to structure our clinical trials around the placebo effect.
- 12:05For anybody that doesn't know what that is, you are trying to test a new medicine that you want to bring to market a new compound, and you have to have a clinical trial, right?
- 12:14So you have to compare it to something.
- 12:16So you give somebody a, essentially a sugar pill.
- 12:19It has no active ingredient, but they don't know if it's the real pill or not.
- 12:24They believe that it's going to help them.
- 12:26They believe 'cause they want to believe it's the active ingredients and they're gonna get helped in some way.
- 12:32And in all clinical trials, there is a placebo effect that some people get well from just taking that inactive pill.
- 12:41It's a phenomena that is just absolutely amazing because it just shows the power of the brain.
- 12:47If you believe something is going to help you.
- 12:50It actually physically was making them better, making their symptoms go away.
- 12:55So it's something that I knew well and my colleagues knew well.
- 12:59But I was trying to go a step further in what you believe as far as if I was going all day long saying, I'm so overwhelmed.
- 13:06I'm so overwhelmed, I can't handle it.
- 13:07I'm so stressed.
- 13:09All day long, that was my belief that I was sending my brain all these danger threat signals.
- 13:15If I was believing, Hey, I'm gonna do as much as I can.
- 13:19It's all gonna get done in the best way possible.
- 13:23I'm gonna get through this.
- 13:24It's manageable.
- 13:25I've always managed.
- 13:27Those type of less threatening messages to the brain, it would've had a very different effect on my nervous system.
- 13:35Also having an open mindset versus a fixed, closed mindset.
- 13:39A lot of times in that company we were having a lot of restructurings and a lot of change, and there were just really upset people around, and many times we were just sitting around bitching and moaning basically about the situation, and that did no good for any of us.
- 13:55And so I was trying to point out what your mindset is and looking at the negative and looking at the worst case possibility is not going to help us.
- 14:05Looking at the problem is going to keep us in problem mode.
- 14:09If you're looking for solutions or looking to neutralize things, that's where the healing can happen.
- 14:14That's when an open mindset and possibilities and solutions can be found.
- 14:19When I was on sick leave, I consulted with a clinic and there I really found there were two distinct types of people.
- 14:27One that were open-minded and thinking, Hey, I've got nothing to lose.
- 14:32I'm at my bottom and nothing has been working so far.
- 14:36So let me listen to these people.
- 14:38If they're telling me my nervous system is totally dysregulated and I need to do something about that.
- 14:43If they're telling me that the holistic approach and looking at my mindset and my beliefs and my stressors and what I've experienced in life and all these kind of things, if they're telling me that's important, I'm gonna listen.
- 14:55Those are the people that were healing because they were open, trying whatever, and step by step, they were healing.
- 15:03The ones that just couldn't get outta their own way and were just very negative, and in victim mindset, this sucks, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me.
- 15:12I can't heal.
- 15:13It's a disease, it's a disorder, it's a condition.
- 15:16And just so negative in their thinking.
- 15:18Those people, I can tell you, did not get better.
- 15:21And if anything potentially got worse.
- 15:24I saw that very clearly over time.
- 15:27I actually even consulted with one of the therapists there to say, this is my observation.
- 15:31Do you see this?
- 15:31Because I see two very different types of people, and I feel like that other group is not healing.
- 15:37And they were like.
- 15:38Yeah, very astute, That is very true.
- 15:41Thankfully you're in the group that is healing and just continue on keeping this open, curious mindset that is going to do you so much better in the long run.
- 15:53So, yeah, that was a very important lesson to keep open, keep curious, and, believing that things are possible.
- 16:00Because of the placebo effect because of the ability of the brain to pick up on that and feel safe about that.
- 16:08If you're just constantly like in the problem, the brain's gonna feel under attack and under threat.
- 16:13You're gonna still have symptoms.
- 16:15How are you gonna get out of that, right?
- 16:17If the brain is still feeling unsafe.
- 16:20The next lesson learned was to surround yourself with a team of people.
- 16:26Sometimes you can afford coaching or therapy, sometimes not.
- 16:29It's more to do with getting your tribe.
- 16:33Getting your community, figuring out the people who are making you feel safe and heard, and recognizing what you are going through.
- 16:44Finding communities that are healing.
- 16:46Not the Facebook communities that are talking about being support group, but the all they're doing is complaining about the problem and talking about what medications and what the doctors are saying and all these things.
- 16:58I'm talking about support groups that are communities of people that are healing and talking about solutions.
- 17:04That is so, so, so important because the other way, you're just focused again on the problem and it's going to just keep you stuck in this loop of the doom and gloom of it all.
- 17:14And it can feed into your doubt, by the way, if you're in these groups and you're seeing other people saying, no, no, I heard that it's magnesium.
- 17:22I heard that it's this, I heard it's that, and you just keep going down all these rabbit holes and you just have all this doubt that is making the brain feel very, very unsafe.
- 17:32So that is an important thing to just have connection and have whether it's certain people that you follow online, if it's certain people that you are in groups with or whatever the case may be, just to feel like you are not alone in this.
- 17:47In migraine.
- 17:48There's 1 billion people worldwide suffering.
- 17:51So you are definitely not alone when it comes to migraine.
- 17:54And there are places and if you're looking for community dM me.
- 17:59I am at the moment trying to work on something with group coaching.
- 18:03That's not set up yet, but I really feel like this community part is very important and so, I wanna get something going with that to help you.
- 18:12The next lesson learned was listen to your body.
- 18:15For so many years I just didn't even know what that meant first of all.
- 18:20I was so in my head, so analytical, so over-functioning and trying to think my way through everything.
- 18:27And I thought that gave me a sense of control.
- 18:30I started getting then some coaches that one specifically kept telling me, drop 10 inches, go down into your body.
- 18:36You're up in your head all the time.
- 18:38Drop down.
- 18:39Drop down into the body.
- 18:40And she would always remind me of that.
- 18:42Until I started catching myself and saying, uh, I need to drop down, she's like, yeah.
- 18:47It made such a difference of listening.
- 18:49And we all have this innate intuition.
- 18:52We all have it, but we are typically not listening because we're so busy.
- 18:57Life is hectic, it's fast paced, and there's a lot going on That's a given.
- 19:02But until you take these little, even micro moments of one minute at a time to check in with yourself.
- 19:09What do I need right now?
- 19:10Do I need a hot tea?
- 19:12Do I, would a coffee make me feel good?
- 19:14Let me just walk out on the balcony and just feel the sun on my skin.
- 19:18Let me just take a really deep cleansing breath that's gonna feel good to me right now.
- 19:23Am I sitting here just powering through and I haven't eaten all day?
- 19:26Yeah, let me get up and just have something to eat.
- 19:29All these little micro things make a big difference because they're reassuring the brain.
- 19:34Everything's fine.
- 19:35We're not under threat.
- 19:36I'm good.
- 19:37I'm taking care of myself, and I actually mean it.
- 19:40I'm looking out for myself.
- 19:42I don't have this huge inner critic that's beating myself up all day, making you feel like there's threat at every corner.
- 19:49I have this self-compassion now, and I am working on making sure that my needs are met because I matter.
- 19:56And that is a huge thing.
- 19:58That's probably another lesson that I should have added that you matter.
- 20:02And I don't think I've told this story, but the reason why I went out on sick leave when I did was because I had an appointment with my counselor.
- 20:10And I was just complaining about the stress and the workload and the life work balance that I didn't have.
- 20:15I was working on another big project and I just felt like, how am I supposed to do this 200% job?
- 20:21This is just not realistic and nobody's listening to me and I'm not heard and dah, dah.
- 20:26And she said, When are you going to choose you?
- 20:30When is it time for you?
- 20:32And I remember that just being like, oof.
- 20:34It just hit me like a ton of bricks.
- 20:36And I burst out crying and she said, it's time.
- 20:40When is it going to be time?
- 20:42What's it gonna take?
- 20:43Because you are now sitting in my office holding your chest because you're saying your heart and your chest is hurting 24 7, pain 24 7 for months.
- 20:55You're not going to the doctor about that, like, what is going on?
- 20:58When is it your turn?
- 21:00And that woke me up.
- 21:01So really paying attention to the body and understanding all these symptoms are escalating.
- 21:08What is going on and why would that be happening?
- 21:12And understanding the nervous system dysregulation that's going on and using the intuition, silencing yourself a little bit to be able to say, uh, okay, this is what's going on.
- 21:23Okay.
- 21:23That's a normal felt sense that I would have in my body.
- 21:27I'm really nervous, so yeah, it makes sense that my stomach is upset or whatever the case may be.
- 21:32Migraines obviously them escalating and it coinciding with me taking a high pressure job.
- 21:38Yeah, that in hindsight wasn't strange.
- 21:41Also, the fact that I moved countries.
- 21:44There were so many different stress factors.
- 21:46And my personality traits and defense mechanisms that were really coming out in full force that caused me so many problems.
- 21:55So, in hindsight, it's not surprising at all.
- 21:57But it's listening to the body is just so important.
- 22:00We're so detached from our bodies and so stuck in the mind, and it's so important to remember that, to come back every once in a while.
- 22:08The next lesson learned was that little things do add up to make a really big difference.
- 22:13They don't feel like it at the time, maybe.
- 22:15Or you just think what's one minute going to do to do some mindfulness or walk out on the balcony or whatever I was just saying of different techniques that you can use, and it really does though.
- 22:25It's regulating the nervous system and if your brain is feeling like it's under threat, but yet you're going out and taking a really deep cleansing breath, well, it's like, okay, well there's no big saber-tooth tiger chasing her.
- 22:38How much danger could she be in if she's doing that?
- 22:41That's not a normal thing to do if you're not safe.
- 22:45So it's these little micro things.
- 22:47And it became a habit for me of doing little things all day long to just check in with myself.
- 22:53And not in a way that's hypervigilant, checking in with yourself.
- 22:56Like, what do I need?
- 22:56What do I need?
- 22:57It's just this ease about it, of I matter and my needs matter, and I'm putting myself up on the list of everybody else.
- 23:06Why wouldn't I, why?
- 23:07I remember saying this to a client and she was so taken aback, it was really moving to her that I said, why wouldn't you matter?
- 23:14Why wouldn't your needs matter?
- 23:16Of course, and she was just like, I don't know.
- 23:19I never thought about it like that.
- 23:20It was a part of a conversation that was a pivotal moment that shifted something for her, which was great.
- 23:26I wrapped up this presentation by saying, where I'm at now, and I have decided that I did not want to, continue doing the work that I was doing, that I was starting to work in the stress management and that I would be glad to be a consultant on anything, if anybody needed anything.
- 23:42And I was saying that we are under a restructuring at the moment.
- 23:46And one of the things I'm working on right now that might be helpful to them, was sitting in the unknown.
- 23:52That was very uncomfortable to me before, and it still was, but I was learning skills to be able to sit in the unknown and realize what's in my control, what's outta my control, the amount that I would allow myself to worry about it, basically.
- 24:08You can control your thoughts and your emotions.
- 24:10You do have influence over what you're thinking about.
- 24:12A thought could come in.
- 24:13Obviously there's a lot that's coming in from the unconscious mind, but you can learn to stop it and say, no, I'm not going down that rabbit hole.
- 24:22I need to focus on these things that I know bring me in the direction that I wanna go to.
- 24:26Still to this day, I think those are the main lessons that I learned.
- 24:31There's a couple other ones that I wanna mention, and one is the nervous system regulation or what understanding of the nervous system can do for you.
- 24:40Understanding that there's a regulated state and there's dysregulated states.
- 24:44Understanding how you feel in those dysregulated states.
- 24:48When you're in fight or flight and you're super stressed out and in this anxiety, this hustle mode and this like activation type of braced for something.
- 24:56That mode versus a shutdown or a free state where you're numbed out and disassociated and oh my gosh, not one more thing.
- 25:04Like I can't handle one more thing.
- 25:06Understanding that stress is a part of life.
- 25:08It's gonna come in our life no matter what.
- 25:11That's just inevitable.
- 25:13But how we can ride the waves of the stress states in our nervous system to not get stuck there, that is the key.
- 25:20Over time I realized what was causing a lot of the chronic pain and symptoms in both myself and clients and everybody else that I've seen that are in these communities that are healing.
- 25:31Was that the nervous system was in a prolonged state of survival, and that is in this fight or flight or freeze.
- 25:38Learning how to recognize that goes back to the lesson of being aware of your body and how you're feeling, so that you can take action and do things to regulate the nervous system if needed.
- 25:50One of the last big learnings that I think I took out of this situation was stress has many, many forms, as I often say.
- 25:59I just did not realize.
- 26:01I thought stress was day to day like what's your work, your relationship, things going on that you're worried about.
- 26:07That was called stress, and I had no idea that it was internalized things that were back in the subconscious, that these repressed emotions.
- 26:19Emotions that you never dealt with in life.
- 26:21Adverse childhood events.
- 26:23Now I know there's a direct correlation actually to adverse childhood events and people in chronic pain later in life.
- 26:30People who have IBS, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, some of these things, there's a direct correlation to your ACE score.
- 26:37It's called ACE.
- 26:39Adverse childhood event score and the severity of the symptoms.
- 26:43That is big.
- 26:44That's a huge factor.
- 26:46So understanding that stress comes in many, many forms, it's the childhood.
- 26:51What happened?
- 26:52Have you dealt with that?
- 26:53These emotions and have you done the processing, the awareness, first of all, bringing it into awareness because a lot of that is in the unconscious mind and have you processed it, felt it in the body, and then processed it so that is no longer a tension that you carry within the body essentially.
- 27:10The body keeps score.
- 27:11Another big one is self-compassion.
- 27:14I just had none, all my life, I think.
- 27:17And working on that, actively recognizing the fact of how horrible I treated myself all these years and how many mean messages were in my head all day, all night.
- 27:31I could have done a hundred things right during the day and accomplished a million things.
- 27:36And at night when I was going to bed, it was always, oh, I didn't do this.
- 27:40I didn't do that.
- 27:40That person's gonna be upset because I didn't get back to 'em on that.
- 27:43It was always the what went wrong.
- 27:45Or that person said this and that stuck with me.
- 27:49Not the 10 compliments that I had gotten of how helpful I had been, but the one that had said, I didn't get back to him in time.
- 27:56So it's self-compassion of you're human being, you are trying the best you can, and we need to have compassion for what we're going through.
- 28:06This is a journey of trying to look back on sometimes decades in my case of patterns and beliefs and ways of being that were coping mechanisms that we never chose.
- 28:18They were either put upon ourselves, these beliefs, from caretakers, society, friend group, whatever.
- 28:25So to bring that power back within us and this empowerment to start living a more authentic life and a life that you're treating yourself well, treating yourself with the same respect as you would a child going through the same situation or another friend that you care for.
- 28:44Five years.
- 28:45In a way it feels like so much more time has gone by in a way it feels like it's flown by.
- 28:51I've accomplished so many things in that time.
- 28:55I did leave that work.
- 28:56I got my coaching degree.
- 28:58I started the company and trying to, yeah, make a difference in somebody else's life now and trying to coach others.
- 29:05If you do need support in any way, please do feel free to reach out to me and in the meantime, keep watching some of the content.
- 29:13There's plenty of other people out there that are doing great work.
- 29:15With migraine, I really hope you find the resources that look at this as a neuroplastic symptom.
- 29:23The old model that we've been listening to, that it's an incurable disease that you have no hope other than pain management is just not correct, first of all, but it's just not helpful.
- 29:34So looking at it in this biopsychosocial model and looking at the biology, the psychology, your emotions, your thoughts, all this and the social aspect to how connected are you, how supported are you, how are you feeling in your environment?
- 29:50Do you feel safe?
- 29:51Do you not?
- 29:51Are you seen?
- 29:52Are you heard?
- 29:54All these things matter to our overall health.
- 29:57I want to get that across that looking at it in that lens is so much more helpful and it's leading to people healing from chronic migraine.
- 30:08I no longer have chronic pain, which is amazing to me.
- 30:12I look back on those years that I thought, yeah, this is just my lot in life if you think it's in your genes and you can't get break free of this go back and listen to my podcast on genetics.
- 30:24This new approach, this new model, I really hope gets more traction and more people are looking into this.
- 30:31I also hope the little rambling off topics of things like the placebo effect or certain things about how things were at work and, the defense mechanisms that maybe I had incorporated, maybe spark something in you as well of thinking of it in a different way.
- 30:48I really do not regret this whole five years.
- 30:52I know it sounds crazy.
- 30:53I know that some people are like, oh, how could you thank the pain?
- 30:56It's not that I'm thanking the pain.
- 30:58I obviously would have preferred my brain to have chosen another way to get my attention, but this worked.
- 31:05This, really was a wake up call.
- 31:07It's just to say if you're going through this and it seems like a really dark time and you're at the beginning of your journey, just know that it gets better and that looking back on hindsight, I really can say this is what was needed to just crack me wide open and to expose these pieces that were just not working, that were not resonating with my true, authentic self and values and life and what I wanted for my life going forward.
- 31:36I just hadn't had the insights or the awareness to look at some of this stuff.
- 31:41So as you do this work, even as painful as it can be at times because you're looking at patterns and things that you want to disrupt and there is some work to it, it was so well worth it.
- 31:58I was so motivated because I saw other people healing, and so I hope I can be a ray of sunshine on that front to just know that this is possible.
- 32:07I hope something resonated for you and you're able to take something out of this to help you on your own healing journey.
- 32:14Reach out if I can be of help in any way, pass this along to anybody else that you think that it would be helpful for.
- 32:20And until then, I hope to see you soon.