Latest / Foul Territory / FT at Blue Jays camp: Jeff Hoffman, Bowden Francis
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I definitely was vocal with it, you know, knowing that
- 0:03Speaker 1: this is my personality and how I want to.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Get into a groove. I knew that starting would be
- 0:08Speaker 2: more of my speed.
- 0:14Speaker 3: All Right, we've got Blue Jay's reliever Jeff Hoffman with us,
- 0:18Speaker 3: and you're back in Toronto.
- 0:20Speaker 4: It's been a minute, Jeff.
- 0:21Speaker 5: Are you excited to be back with this team? Yeah,
- 0:24Speaker 5: very excited. It's spent a long time.
- 0:28Speaker 6: But getting to kind of rekindle old relationships with staff
- 0:32Speaker 6: members and I actually haven't played with any of the
- 0:35Speaker 6: players in this clubhouse, but getting to rekindle old relationships
- 0:39Speaker 6: with former staff and stuff, it's been fun.
- 0:42Speaker 2: How much has it changed because this wasn't here? No,
- 0:44Speaker 2: this definitely wasn't here. This whole complex they have here
- 0:47Speaker 2: and you were traded People don't know for Troy Tulowitski
- 0:50Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, wasn't it So? I mean, how much
- 0:53Speaker 2: is it different from when you were here geez, almost
- 0:56Speaker 2: ten years ago now to where you are now? Yeah?
- 0:58Speaker 6: Totally different building, even the same I mean we're on
- 1:01Speaker 6: the same street, but different, different structure.
- 1:05Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean this place has grown crazy.
- 1:07Speaker 6: It's uh, I mean, probably one of the better spring
- 1:11Speaker 6: training complexes in the league.
- 1:13Speaker 5: From what I've seen, so kind of gone from from
- 1:15Speaker 5: worse the first.
- 1:17Speaker 6: It's been nice to get to utilize all the great
- 1:20Speaker 6: facilities that have around here.
- 1:23Speaker 4: Yeah, we're exactly the same.
- 1:25Speaker 7: I was drafted by the Jays, didn't make it to
- 1:28Speaker 7: the big leagues a little bit differently, but then I
- 1:31Speaker 7: came back later quite a little bit differently. Again I
- 1:34Speaker 7: got back to to catch Dicky. But anyway, I remember
- 1:39Speaker 7: when you were drafted. We were in the Big League
- 1:41Speaker 7: clubhouse in Toronto and you were drafted, and it's good
- 1:45Speaker 7: none of those guys are there, because they were all
- 1:47Speaker 7: hating on you.
- 1:48Speaker 4: They were like, what, we took a picture.
- 1:50Speaker 7: We took a picture in the ninth pick overall, when
- 1:55Speaker 7: you were picked by the Jays, did you say, dang,
- 1:58Speaker 7: I don't want to play for those.
- 1:59Speaker 4: Loose they don't like me either.
- 2:03Speaker 2: No, not really. I was.
- 2:05Speaker 5: I was super excited. I you know, I was just
- 2:08Speaker 5: excited to start my pro career. And I mean I
- 2:11Speaker 5: was broken at that time.
- 2:12Speaker 6: I had I had my Tommy John surgery that I
- 2:14Speaker 6: had just been recovering from, and so I wasn't even
- 2:18Speaker 6: I mean I had a year a year plus probably
- 2:20Speaker 6: to start playing still. So I mean I was really
- 2:23Speaker 6: excited because Toronto to me is it was a little
- 2:26Speaker 6: close to home, and you know it was better than
- 2:29Speaker 6: ending up, you know, somewhere on the West coast like that.
- 2:31Speaker 6: So it was it was a good day.
- 2:34Speaker 2: You mentioned, can I see your zipper?
- 2:37Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 2:38Speaker 2: Gosh, can we Is there a way we can close
- 2:40Speaker 2: up on that? Just just so anybody that says Tommy
- 2:43Speaker 2: John is not a big deal, can we can we
- 2:44Speaker 2: show this on his one camp? Jimmy put that thing
- 2:48Speaker 2: up there so we can, Like, for anyone that says
- 2:51Speaker 2: that Tommy John is not a big deal, I mean
- 2:54Speaker 2: I want you to be able to see that right there.
- 2:56Speaker 2: That is nasty scar. So so nobody, nobody say that
- 3:01Speaker 2: Tommy John is not a big deal. But then so
- 3:03Speaker 2: I got to ask you because you went through the
- 3:05Speaker 2: off season and you had some physical yeah question marks, right,
- 3:09Speaker 2: so you had deals you thought with other places? Do
- 3:12Speaker 2: you know what it was? Do they tell you they say, hey,
- 3:14Speaker 2: this is why, and then you go back because I
- 3:16Speaker 2: don't know how this as a free agent, I never
- 3:18Speaker 2: had that come up. So do you go back then
- 3:20Speaker 2: with your agency? No, it's not this, he doesn't that
- 3:22Speaker 2: doesn't hurt or it's not a big deal.
- 3:24Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's it's tough, right because
- 3:28Speaker 6: like everybody's got their doctors that they trust and that
- 3:30Speaker 6: they're that's their team doctor, and and you know that's
- 3:33Speaker 6: you know, they're they're paying them for that for that
- 3:35Speaker 6: reason and to.
- 3:36Speaker 5: Give them their their opinion, you know.
- 3:38Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, Uh, imaging is
- 3:41Speaker 6: is kind of a big gray area. So you know,
- 3:45Speaker 6: there's stuff that could show up in a picture that
- 3:48Speaker 6: doesn't really affect me on a day to day basis,
- 3:50Speaker 6: but it's there, you know, for whatever reason, maybe it
- 3:53Speaker 6: bothered me in.
- 3:53Speaker 5: The past or whatever.
- 3:54Speaker 6: But at this point, I'm healthy, and uh, you know
- 3:59Speaker 6: it's something that I'm I'm it's not even on my radar.
- 4:01Speaker 6: I've I've been going through a normal throwing progression. I've
- 4:04Speaker 6: been healthy the past two years. It's I'm in a
- 4:06Speaker 6: really good spot from a health standpoint.
- 4:09Speaker 7: After those of those things came back from your physical
- 4:11Speaker 7: whatever it was. Were you afraid when you agreed with
- 4:14Speaker 7: the Blue Jays, You're like, how long was it after
- 4:17Speaker 7: you agreed that you had to wait for them to
- 4:20Speaker 7: like clear your fifth goal?
- 4:22Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it was it was the deal with with
- 4:26Speaker 5: the Blue Jays.
- 4:27Speaker 6: You know, at that point, you know, the other two
- 4:30Speaker 6: had already transpired, and you know, we were totally out
- 4:33Speaker 6: in the open with with everything with the Blue Jays,
- 4:35Speaker 6: so they knew, you know, exactly what they were getting into.
- 4:37Speaker 6: They saw all the imaging and you know, it's like
- 4:41Speaker 6: I said, it's something that every team has their own
- 4:44Speaker 6: their own opinion on it. And you know they're, you know,
- 4:47Speaker 6: the same teams that you know that flag did. You know,
- 4:51Speaker 6: still had offers on the table. So it's not like
- 4:53Speaker 6: they completely pull out. They you know, it was uh,
- 4:56Speaker 6: you know, to read into that what you want. But
- 4:59Speaker 6: the Blue Jays were great and they you know, they
- 5:02Speaker 6: take it for what it is and just excited to
- 5:05Speaker 6: be here and.
- 5:07Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm healthy and I'm ready to go on.
- 5:10Speaker 2: We got to show your arm again because your camera
- 5:11Speaker 2: got a little fuzzy. So let's let's see if we
- 5:13Speaker 2: can show. Don't tell me again that that Tommy John
- 5:16Speaker 2: isn't a big deal. Look at that thing.
- 5:18Speaker 4: That's nasty.
- 5:19Speaker 2: That's one of them things. Looks like the guy in
- 5:20Speaker 2: Jaws at his leg bitting off at some point, right,
- 5:24Speaker 2: are you mad at the other teams that like, we
- 5:27Speaker 2: use Baltimore because Baltimore was the big team that was
- 5:29Speaker 2: out there for you, right, I mean you're in their
- 5:31Speaker 2: division now, So are you like give me the ball
- 5:33Speaker 2: every chance I get against Baltimore? Yeah? I uh yeah, Okay, good,
- 5:39Speaker 2: that's good. That's not you can say that's fine, listen.
- 5:42Speaker 4: Is a good way to put it.
- 5:43Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I I like the I like the chips,
- 5:45Speaker 6: I like the you know this kind of stuff, the smoke,
- 5:50Speaker 6: if you will, so I, uh yeah, I'm looking forward
- 5:53Speaker 6: to it.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Okay, good, you better say that answer, you better say yes. Yeah.
- 5:59Speaker 4: So you're gonn to be the closer.
- 6:03Speaker 5: I believe so. I believe so.
- 6:05Speaker 6: So it'll it'll be fun getting to throw some pretty
- 6:08Speaker 6: meaningful innings against against everybody.
- 6:12Speaker 4: How close are close? Were you just starting? How close
- 6:14Speaker 4: were you just starting? Like?
- 6:15Speaker 7: Is that like the off season we heard some rumblings
- 6:19Speaker 7: about that. Did teams say nah, no, no, we want you,
- 6:21Speaker 7: we want you in the back end?
- 6:23Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 6:24Speaker 1: No.
- 6:24Speaker 6: It was pretty much on a on a team the
- 6:25Speaker 6: team basis, you know, depending on what their what their
- 6:29Speaker 6: you know, roster look makeup look like, you know, what
- 6:33Speaker 6: their needs were at the time, and uh so Yeah,
- 6:37Speaker 6: that was that was real. Didn't didn't necessarily come from
- 6:40Speaker 6: me like I didn't. I didn't, you know, put that
- 6:42Speaker 6: out there that I wanted to start or anything. But
- 6:45Speaker 6: you know, I guess with the with the recent track
- 6:47Speaker 6: record of some of the guys that have switched back over,
- 6:50Speaker 6: it was an.
- 6:50Speaker 5: Interesting storyline, and.
- 6:53Speaker 6: You know, I was, I mean, I'm confident that I
- 6:55Speaker 6: can do whatever whatever is needed, so uh, you know,
- 6:58Speaker 6: it would be a it would be a fun challenge
- 7:00Speaker 6: to get back in another shot at that.
- 7:03Speaker 5: But at the same time, I'm I'm happy, you know that.
- 7:05Speaker 6: You know, I found something that I'm pretty good at
- 7:07Speaker 6: and I enjoy pitching at the back end.
- 7:09Speaker 2: All right, what's your skit gonna be? What's your skit
- 7:12Speaker 2: gonna be? Is closer?
- 7:15Speaker 5: Like like the video?
- 7:16Speaker 2: Yeah, like the video the music. You know, they turn
- 7:19Speaker 2: the lights and they make them flash. Are they gonna
- 7:20Speaker 2: make that bird come out and they let's go?
- 7:24Speaker 5: I don't know if they're gonna don't think they're gonna
- 7:26Speaker 5: do that.
- 7:26Speaker 6: I think I think there's something pretty cool in the
- 7:28Speaker 6: works though, you know, something maybe maybe Marvel themed.
- 7:31Speaker 5: Or something like that.
- 7:33Speaker 2: You're a big Marvel guy.
- 7:34Speaker 5: Then I like it and I think.
- 7:36Speaker 6: The Blue Jays have a pretty good relationship with with Marvel,
- 7:39Speaker 6: so uh, we'll see how.
- 7:40Speaker 5: It turns out. The song always the same, It's it's
- 7:44Speaker 5: a live by k Cuddy.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I.
- 7:46Speaker 5: Don't really change that one kind of a yeah, that's the.
- 7:49Speaker 2: One that can can the crowd, like I think. So, okay,
- 7:52Speaker 2: the Canadians do they know that song because sometimes they're
- 7:55Speaker 2: a little behind. Okay, I'm just kidding. I mean, look
- 8:00Speaker 2: at Crawts, he played there for years, like how behind
- 8:02Speaker 2: he is sometimes.
- 8:04Speaker 7: The Six the six likes the likes Drake, So I mean,
- 8:07Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not saying you have to switch it,
- 8:09Speaker 7: but like you can be there for three years either way.
- 8:12Speaker 7: But Drake, anytime Drake puts on the jersey, they don't
- 8:15Speaker 7: win the championship. So there's also that.
- 8:17Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe we can keep that part out, just not
- 8:20Speaker 5: the jersey on.
- 8:21Speaker 4: You know, well, we'll keep that out.
- 8:23Speaker 7: How much how much did you dominate Harper in those
- 8:27Speaker 7: live at bats that we all heard about because I
- 8:30Speaker 7: always talk about live abs and like who talks the
- 8:33Speaker 7: most smack? I know he was coming back and rehab,
- 8:36Speaker 7: I know, but essentially that's why you made the team. Essentially,
- 8:39Speaker 7: you were grinding with the Iron Pigs and you dominated
- 8:43Speaker 7: Harper And how much did you hold that over him
- 8:47Speaker 7: rest of the season and the rest of the rest.
- 8:49Speaker 4: Of the two years.
- 8:51Speaker 6: Honestly, I try not to bring it up. He brings
- 8:54Speaker 6: it up a lot. Yeah, it was one of those things. Yeah,
- 8:57Speaker 6: I mean I had a really good day on the
- 9:00Speaker 6: possible day to have that day, and uh, it was
- 9:03Speaker 6: one of those things where it was, like I've said it,
- 9:05Speaker 6: I've been on record saying it before that I kind
- 9:07Speaker 6: of treated it like it was the World Series that day,
- 9:09Speaker 6: and I knew that, you know, my numbers weren't great
- 9:12Speaker 6: in Triple A at that time, and I needed to
- 9:14Speaker 6: do something to kind of, you know, put some attention
- 9:17Speaker 6: on me and and get me a chance. So you know,
- 9:20Speaker 6: I took the opportunity around with it, and I got
- 9:23Speaker 6: him pretty good that day. It was, uh I got
- 9:25Speaker 6: I had like five at bats against them, and I
- 9:27Speaker 6: punched him out four times.
- 9:28Speaker 2: So did he get a cut? Did he get a cut? Yeah?
- 9:31Speaker 5: He hit a grand ball a second No no.
- 9:32Speaker 2: No, did he get a cut of your new contract?
- 9:34Speaker 5: Because uh no, no he didn't.
- 9:41Speaker 2: The friendships there, Okay, good are you gonna do like
- 9:43Speaker 2: Soto didn't. But if you buy him like a car,
- 9:45Speaker 2: he goes. I mean not that he needs the money,
- 9:47Speaker 2: right right. You can buy him like one of those
- 9:48Speaker 2: little you can buy him a go cart. I mean
- 9:50Speaker 2: they're just like your golf car. They're just right down
- 9:52Speaker 2: the street.
- 9:52Speaker 5: And see, I probably do him something a little special.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Thousand dollars gift card to Best Buy. Crat slows when
- 9:57Speaker 2: guys give him that.
- 9:58Speaker 4: There you go.
- 10:00Speaker 5: Whatever your heart desires with that one.
- 10:02Speaker 2: That's right. You may pick your own Dick Sporting Goods, Yes,
- 10:06Speaker 2: there you go. Make bake. Bryce walk into Dick Sporting Goods.
- 10:11Speaker 2: He's got the under armouror ole thing on the side
- 10:13Speaker 2: of the wall, and Brice can just be standing there
- 10:15Speaker 2: looking around, like I wonder what I should get here.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Maybe if he's out there he's trying out the bats.
- 10:20Speaker 2: But you know, in the middle of the store and
- 10:23Speaker 2: someone walks by and like, hey, I think that might
- 10:24Speaker 2: be Bryce Harper. It would be a great commercial.
- 10:28Speaker 4: All right.
- 10:28Speaker 2: So you're you're more of a four pitch kind of guy, right,
- 10:32Speaker 2: You're not really the traditional Usually closers are like a
- 10:34Speaker 2: fastball slide or fastball change up. How do you keep
- 10:36Speaker 2: them sharp at a bullpen.
- 10:41Speaker 6: Yeah, I think just being diligent with with you know,
- 10:45Speaker 6: pregame throws and uh, you know, anytime, you know, maybe
- 10:49Speaker 6: you have the opportunity to get on the mound for
- 10:52Speaker 6: a side session because you haven't thrown a couple of days.
- 10:54Speaker 6: You know, I think just being diligent with that kind
- 10:56Speaker 6: of work and getting the most out of your catch play.
- 10:59Speaker 5: And you know, I think for the most part.
- 11:04Speaker 6: It's uh, you know, I'm out there just really trying
- 11:07Speaker 6: to feel one thing, and that's my hand and where
- 11:10Speaker 6: my hand's at in space.
- 11:11Speaker 5: And you know, usually if I if.
- 11:14Speaker 6: I lock into that and I'm I'm locked in with
- 11:17Speaker 6: with uh you know, where my hand's at, then everything
- 11:20Speaker 6: kind of takes care of itself.
- 11:24Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one for me.
- 11:27Speaker 7: The facility, Now, when you were drafted, you saw the
- 11:29Speaker 7: old facility. They made that facility when I was drafted
- 11:32Speaker 7: in two and then in twenty when I quit, that's
- 11:37Speaker 7: when they built this thing. What is the coolest thing
- 11:39Speaker 7: because I've heard from some of the trainers.
- 11:41Speaker 4: You know, Voon Chung Voon's in there.
- 11:44Speaker 7: Voon was my first trainer, so you have a lot
- 11:46Speaker 7: of the same guys Posey's in there. What's the coolest
- 11:50Speaker 7: thing that you've never seen in any of your trips?
- 11:55Speaker 2: Oh?
- 11:55Speaker 6: Man, shoot, I'm this whole place is is spectacular. I
- 12:03Speaker 6: mean it's it's it's a it's a big league stadium
- 12:07Speaker 6: set up in a in a spring training kind of venue,
- 12:10Speaker 6: but it's.
- 12:12Speaker 5: I think the cool thing for me is.
- 12:17Speaker 6: Seeing the the recovery type stuff really make its way
- 12:22Speaker 6: into the clubhouse. Uh, and that start to get taken
- 12:26Speaker 6: a lot more serious because I think that was a
- 12:28Speaker 6: big thing for me when I've turned the corner in
- 12:31Speaker 6: my in my career getting healthier and able to stay
- 12:35Speaker 6: on the field and perform, you know, at the highest level.
- 12:39Speaker 6: I think, you know, that was something earlier in my
- 12:42Speaker 6: career that that you know, that.
- 12:43Speaker 5: Wasn't necessarily focal point.
- 12:46Speaker 6: And you know, I think it's really good for for
- 12:50Speaker 6: young guys to learn how to to keep themselves on
- 12:52Speaker 6: the field and to to prolong their careers and to
- 12:55Speaker 6: stay on the fields as long as possible, because it's
- 12:58Speaker 6: really hard to play this game for you know, one year,
- 13:02Speaker 6: let alone ten.
- 13:03Speaker 5: So uh, you know, you just I like to see
- 13:07Speaker 5: that that type of stuff.
- 13:08Speaker 6: Really, you know, make its way into the into the
- 13:10Speaker 6: spotlight and you know, help guys, you know, have a
- 13:15Speaker 6: longer career.
- 13:16Speaker 2: What's you like having to take a bus though to
- 13:18Speaker 2: the park because you guys do everything here and then
- 13:20Speaker 2: you have to take a bus to the stadium. Is
- 13:22Speaker 2: that strange sometimes? And you guys have the double decker bus.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Are you up top or you a bottom bunky bottom bunk?
- 13:28Speaker 6: Keep it simple, okay, okay, uh no, it's it's it's
- 13:32Speaker 6: a little weird having to go over, you know, to
- 13:34Speaker 6: take the trip over to.
- 13:36Speaker 2: To your home ballpark.
- 13:37Speaker 5: To the home ball park.
- 13:38Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a little weird, but it is only, you know,
- 13:42Speaker 6: a seven minute drive, so it's it's not too much
- 13:44Speaker 6: of a wrench in your day.
- 13:47Speaker 5: But yeah, it's a little different from what you're normally
- 13:50Speaker 5: used to.
- 13:51Speaker 7: One of the traditions, they used to have a huge
- 13:53Speaker 7: ball that was kind of like a dry e race
- 13:55Speaker 7: ball that was like all over the wall and people
- 13:58Speaker 7: would sign it when they made the big lees with
- 14:00Speaker 7: the Jas. Do they still have that and will you
- 14:05Speaker 7: sign it because technically you were draft It was only
- 14:08Speaker 7: for people who were drafted by the Jays and made
- 14:10Speaker 7: the big leaes with the Jays. So does this count
- 14:13Speaker 7: because if it does, I still haven't signed it, even
- 14:15Speaker 7: though it didn't work out the way that it was
- 14:17Speaker 7: supposed to work out.
- 14:19Speaker 2: I think so.
- 14:19Speaker 6: I don't know if they still have the exact same ball,
- 14:22Speaker 6: but I think they have a list up on the
- 14:23Speaker 6: wall now. It's way more modern and fancy, just like
- 14:26Speaker 6: everything around here. But yeah, they have the list, and
- 14:30Speaker 6: I'll have to take a look if I'm on there.
- 14:31Speaker 6: But technically homegrown.
- 14:34Speaker 4: So technically that's what I'm saying.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Technically, Hey Scott, by the way, I have to wish
- 14:40Speaker 2: him nothing but the best, just for you An Kraut.
- 14:42Speaker 2: You know why he was born in New York and
- 14:43Speaker 2: guess where he lives now, Orlando, Orlando, so jackpot for him, Yeah, exactly.
- 14:50Speaker 2: So that's why he's a great interview. That's why he
- 14:53Speaker 2: got paid.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Yep, that's right, that's right, that's the connection. Wow, your
- 14:56Speaker 3: AJ's new best friend. But Jeff is awesome. At the time,
- 15:01Speaker 3: I should say this to twenty twenty four all star
- 15:04Speaker 3: Jeff Hoffman with us New Blue Jay.
- 15:07Speaker 4: Thank you, Jeff.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Great to see you, man.
- 15:10Speaker 2: I don't know if I can sit next to this
- 15:11Speaker 2: man his name who is named after one of the
- 15:15Speaker 2: all time evil most evil persons in the world, most
- 15:19Speaker 2: evil peoples in the world. Yes, I am a Florida guy.
- 15:22Speaker 2: So he's named after Bobby Bowden. So when you guys
- 15:24Speaker 2: are questioning how to say his name and I found
- 15:27Speaker 2: out he was from Tallahassee, I was like, oh, I
- 15:29Speaker 2: know exactly who he was named for. So I'm glad
- 15:32Speaker 2: that they named the stadium Ronzick Field at Tallahassee. So
- 15:36Speaker 2: thank you for that, mister Bowden. But yeah, so before
- 15:40Speaker 2: we digging, what did you think about what Travis Hunter?
- 15:42Speaker 2: Because he was committed to Florida State until he wasn't
- 15:44Speaker 2: committed to Florida State, Right, that's so, did you see
- 15:47Speaker 2: what Travis Hunter said about him being he said, so
- 15:50Speaker 2: he said what he does in football is harder than
- 15:52Speaker 2: what O'tani does in baseball. That's a tough that's a
- 15:57Speaker 2: tough take, right, I mean, I think that's one of
- 15:59Speaker 2: the mistakes I've ever heard. Yeah, I can't be said,
- 16:03Speaker 2: well because Dotani also plays I mean, yes, way harder.
- 16:06Speaker 2: He plays way harder, and he does it every day.
- 16:09Speaker 2: That's to me is the difference. Travis hundred does it
- 16:11Speaker 2: once a week. Yeah, you play one hundred snaps Otani
- 16:15Speaker 2: throws a hundred pitches, gets five at bats one hundred
- 16:17Speaker 2: and sixty days a year, and then he's got a pitch. Yeah, exactly. Crazy.
- 16:21Speaker 2: So imagine if you had to pitch five to six, seven,
- 16:23Speaker 2: eight innings and then all of a sudden, by the way,
- 16:25Speaker 2: you're hitting the next four days, and you're gonna pitch
- 16:27Speaker 2: it in. Yeah, yeah, you're scouting. Yeah right? How hard?
- 16:30Speaker 2: How hard would that be? I don't understand it. Could
- 16:33Speaker 2: you hit? No? Okay, so that's what.
- 16:36Speaker 3: You and not a nine hitter either.
- 16:38Speaker 4: Age.
- 16:39Speaker 3: I want to make sure this part he's emphasized to
- 16:42Speaker 3: he was a top three hitter in the sport last year,
- 16:46Speaker 3: being asked to carry the team on his back at
- 16:48Speaker 3: times during the season.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Rehaving right, he did really happy Scott fifty fifty physically?
- 16:54Speaker 2: How you do that? But you haven't had TJ yet.
- 16:57Speaker 2: I mean, okay, no, I come, sorry.
- 17:01Speaker 3: Sorry, screw you.
- 17:04Speaker 2: No. I hope, listen, I hope he'd be one of
- 17:06Speaker 2: the few that doesn't. I really hope all right that
- 17:09Speaker 2: you don't. But I'm just we had I'll spoil it.
- 17:11Speaker 2: We had Jeff Hobman in here, and he'll run the
- 17:14Speaker 2: interview in a little bit, but his scar. He showed
- 17:17Speaker 2: his scar. It's nasty. And I was like, people that
- 17:19Speaker 2: think TJ is easy to come back from, show your
- 17:22Speaker 2: arm and the whole thing was like itok, like a
- 17:24Speaker 2: shark bite.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Nowadays it's like, you know, it's not a big deal,
- 17:28Speaker 1: but it's still a big deal.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Guys.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Just being out for that long and being away from
- 17:33Speaker 1: the team, it's it's tough.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Mentally, I guarantee it, but I don't know. I wouldn't
- 17:39Speaker 2: want to go through it. I just get bored. I
- 17:42Speaker 2: didn't know that. I know, I know the holy crap
- 17:44Speaker 2: at all my teammates because I wouldn't know what to
- 17:45Speaker 2: do because I mean, I can't play and I'm sitting
- 17:48Speaker 2: there with the little thing on my brace, you know,
- 17:50Speaker 2: my arm, the big brace on my arm, and I'm like, hey, guys,
- 17:52Speaker 2: look at my brace. I can move it one more degree. Today,
- 17:54Speaker 2: you guys.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Noticed anything exactly?
- 18:00Speaker 7: Hey, what what kind of conversations did you have to
- 18:02Speaker 7: have with the org and schneids to be able to
- 18:06Speaker 7: get into rotation? Because now you've solidified it. I mean,
- 18:09Speaker 7: you're just you don't give up a hit before the
- 18:11Speaker 7: eight before the ninth inning, so you're just like ah
- 18:14Speaker 7: mine as well. What kind of what kind of conversations
- 18:17Speaker 7: did you have to have or was it like I'll
- 18:19Speaker 7: just bide my time, pitch as good as I can
- 18:21Speaker 7: and not really say anything.
- 18:25Speaker 2: It was a little bit of both, but.
- 18:28Speaker 1: I definitely kind of was vocal with it, you know,
- 18:32Speaker 1: knowing that just my personality and how I want to
- 18:37Speaker 1: get into a groove, I knew that starting would be
- 18:39Speaker 1: more of my speed. And you know, I told them, obviously,
- 18:43Speaker 1: I want to do whatever. I want the team to win,
- 18:45Speaker 1: I want to get established, but with I just I
- 18:51Speaker 1: told them that I knew I'm going to start at
- 18:54Speaker 1: some point in my career and I want to do
- 18:56Speaker 1: it here.
- 18:59Speaker 2: And I just want to kind of.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Be in the role that I'm been in through the
- 19:06Speaker 1: minor leagues and I'm most comfortable with. And you know,
- 19:09Speaker 1: the trust just slowly started tinkering, and now it's at
- 19:13Speaker 1: the point where they're telling me that, you know, take
- 19:17Speaker 1: the screen training, get my work in and get ready
- 19:20Speaker 1: for the season.
- 19:20Speaker 2: It's gonna be a long one.
- 19:22Speaker 7: What did they say? I mean, we know you what
- 19:24Speaker 7: you wanted, but what did they say? Because when AJ
- 19:27Speaker 7: played and when I played, if you went to like
- 19:28Speaker 7: front office or managers, and you were like, hey, I
- 19:31Speaker 7: want to do this, they'd be like, piss off, we'll
- 19:34Speaker 7: take care of it.
- 19:34Speaker 4: You just go out and play.
- 19:35Speaker 7: How did they respond to you when you said, look,
- 19:38Speaker 7: I'm gonna pitch. I'm going to start one day for
- 19:41Speaker 7: this organization, and then you're not going to take me
- 19:43Speaker 7: out of it.
- 19:46Speaker 2: It wasn't I wasn't trying to step on it.
- 19:50Speaker 1: In toes with that, I said that I will be
- 19:55Speaker 1: whatever role as long as I as long as they
- 19:58Speaker 1: want me to, but as long as I.
- 20:00Speaker 2: I'll do any role as long as I get to start.
- 20:04Speaker 2: I told them like, I'm open to whatever.
- 20:06Speaker 1: But I just told them basically like, I know I'm
- 20:09Speaker 1: going to start in my career.
- 20:11Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be here or wherever.
- 20:13Speaker 1: But I just know in my heart, and I'm like
- 20:18Speaker 1: and my body, I know that I'm a starter at
- 20:21Speaker 1: the end of this. And I just told them that's
- 20:25Speaker 1: just like where my goal is. I guess I was
- 20:27Speaker 1: just opened with my goals. And then they listened to
- 20:30Speaker 1: me and eat screen training. They gave me an option.
- 20:35Speaker 1: I mean, they gave me a shot to do it,
- 20:37Speaker 1: and it's just tooking time, but I'm just grateful for
- 20:40Speaker 1: the time they gave me, and I thank them all
- 20:43Speaker 1: the time forgive me the opportunity.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Okay, last year, two no hitters into the night. We're
- 20:48Speaker 2: you nervous? First of all? What happened? Like we got
- 20:50Speaker 2: to get one here right eventually? So were you nervous
- 20:54Speaker 2: the first one? Were you nervous? The second one? Is
- 20:56Speaker 2: there any part of your brain that started going like, man,
- 20:58Speaker 2: I might actually get the no hitter because I've been
- 21:01Speaker 2: on the other end of catching no hitters, but I've
- 21:03Speaker 2: never been in the mind of a picture as the
- 21:05Speaker 2: no hitters.
- 21:06Speaker 1: The second one, I was thinking more about it. I
- 21:09Speaker 1: was like, all right, this is actually the it's actually
- 21:11Speaker 1: the one. The remember who gave up a hit? Who
- 21:14Speaker 1: gave up a hit? Who was it? Lin door got
- 21:17Speaker 1: me the second time, But the first one was the award.
- 21:21Speaker 1: But the first one, like, you know, I just felt
- 21:25Speaker 1: like I had a I just was grooving. It wasn't
- 21:27Speaker 1: like a good flow. I didn't overthink it. I mean,
- 21:32Speaker 1: I just knew that my pitches were up there. But
- 21:35Speaker 1: I just kept telling myself, don't change, keep doing the
- 21:37Speaker 1: same thing, keep attacking. But and then I went out
- 21:42Speaker 1: there for the ninth and that I mean, the crowd
- 21:44Speaker 1: was going nuts and I just started feeling like Jello
- 21:48Speaker 1: out there. But the second one is like, I was
- 21:53Speaker 1: more dialogue in my mind, Like I kind of felt
- 21:56Speaker 1: more real because I've been through It's a couple of
- 22:01Speaker 1: starts before that and the same exact thing happened. But
- 22:06Speaker 1: it's just crazy that the guys are it was. It
- 22:08Speaker 1: was something to laugh about, but it was frustrating at
- 22:11Speaker 1: the time, but I knew that like games like that,
- 22:16Speaker 1: it's you gotta just smile by him no matter what.
- 22:19Speaker 2: But it was crazy.
- 22:22Speaker 7: What off season story or narrative did you follow the
- 22:26Speaker 7: most and you thought was the most exciting for the
- 22:29Speaker 7: Jase in the sense of, okay, could they get Rokie?
- 22:33Speaker 7: Is Gladdie going to re sign?
- 22:35Speaker 4: Whoa?
- 22:35Speaker 7: I'm hearing Pete stuff that you followed the most or
- 22:39Speaker 7: was most exciting whichever.
- 22:42Speaker 2: I mean.
- 22:43Speaker 1: I heard Santander like early and that was my like,
- 22:48Speaker 1: my favorite pick I thought for us to get and
- 22:52Speaker 1: it's funny that was the one we got. But just
- 22:55Speaker 1: facing him last year, like even screen training, he's always
- 22:59Speaker 1: given the Blue Jays a hard time. I like the
- 23:02Speaker 1: way he plays and power from the left side. It's
- 23:06Speaker 1: rare in the game. And obviously, you know if Lattie
- 23:12Speaker 1: is a big one, and that's gonna be always a
- 23:15Speaker 1: talk this season, but it's you know, we have this
- 23:19Speaker 1: whole year for him and it's gonna be his decision
- 23:23Speaker 1: and it'll be it'll be cool to watch. The big
- 23:30Speaker 1: one was Anthony. For me, it's not a distraction now.
- 23:34Speaker 1: The way he goes about his business and stuff is
- 23:37Speaker 1: it's never gonna be about him. And you know, I
- 23:41Speaker 1: could I can even tell the minute he walked in
- 23:44Speaker 1: the building. I mean, if you would have told me
- 23:47Speaker 1: that he signed or not, I wouldn't know, It'll tell.
- 23:49Speaker 2: It was seamless.
- 23:51Speaker 1: And the way he is in the dugout during the
- 23:53Speaker 1: games right now, he's all about the team.
- 23:56Speaker 2: It's it's like he does a really good job of.
- 24:01Speaker 1: I guess harnessing that and separating all that off the
- 24:06Speaker 1: field type stuff out of your bow Am I picking one?
- 24:11Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't say both. I'm just kidding, because the
- 24:19Speaker 2: look on your face named after Bobby Bowen, He's got
- 24:22Speaker 2: to get some tough questions, Okay, So the look on
- 24:25Speaker 2: his face was priceless. So he's like I don't know me. Okay,
- 24:31Speaker 2: So you're a big yoga guy, right, big yoga. I
- 24:34Speaker 2: mean you have no shoes on, so you're obviously trying
- 24:35Speaker 2: to ground yourself. I hope you don't step on one
- 24:37Speaker 2: of these wires and electric l Tell me about that.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Tell me about that. Does that help you in your starts?
- 24:42Speaker 2: Because you meditate, right, you do a lot of things.
- 24:44Speaker 2: I see you have the ring on. How does that
- 24:48Speaker 2: help you not only your starts, but just in life. Yeah,
- 24:51Speaker 2: I just I just realized, I guess growing up and
- 24:58Speaker 2: going through.
- 25:00Speaker 1: And getting like I don't know, I just realized there
- 25:02Speaker 1: was I just went down rabbit holes when I was
- 25:08Speaker 1: not as good as a player as other guys around me.
- 25:11Speaker 1: So I just tried to research a lot about the
- 25:15Speaker 1: mind and flow and the body mind body connection and
- 25:19Speaker 1: how to put that all together. And then you know,
- 25:23Speaker 1: I was like in lower levels and I would have
- 25:26Speaker 1: roller coaster starts. I would either strike out ten or
- 25:30Speaker 1: I would give up ten hits, and it was like
- 25:31Speaker 1: an emotional So I just did some deep diving and
- 25:37Speaker 1: try to figure out how to be more even keel
- 25:40Speaker 1: and figure out how to be more present. And it
- 25:45Speaker 1: just kept coming back to the breath and kept coming
- 25:47Speaker 1: back to people talking about like the mind body connection
- 25:51Speaker 1: and how to how to become more of a flow state,
- 25:56Speaker 1: and yoga's with a like really ties into that, and
- 26:00Speaker 1: then meditation ties into that. How to harness guys around base,
- 26:05Speaker 1: second and third two outs, how to not worry about that.
- 26:09Speaker 2: And it's so much easier said than done.
- 26:12Speaker 1: So I think just working on that stuff off the
- 26:15Speaker 1: field has helped me tremendous for me to toe the
- 26:21Speaker 1: rubber with guys on and know that it's about this
- 26:24Speaker 1: pitch and it just helps me kind of get into
- 26:27Speaker 1: their groove.
- 26:28Speaker 2: As the most inflexible person on the planet. I used
- 26:31Speaker 2: to do yoga and it would. I'm sure your yoga's
- 26:33Speaker 2: much sometimes much smoother than mine would.
- 26:35Speaker 1: The body is one, but the mind is a whole
- 26:40Speaker 1: other component that we don't even think about when we
- 26:41Speaker 1: think about yoga. Some people just think about it's about stretching,
- 26:44Speaker 1: but I try to think of it about eighty percent
- 26:48Speaker 1: of it's more mental than the body.
- 26:51Speaker 2: I think.
- 26:54Speaker 1: If you build like they say, if you build a
- 26:55Speaker 1: strong mind, the body will follow. So I just try
- 26:58Speaker 1: to really think about that more.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Mad And I have a question for you, so yoga's
- 27:05Speaker 3: about controlling your breath or that's part of it. Right,
- 27:09Speaker 3: Did you find any solace in the last couple months
- 27:12Speaker 3: of the season and being able to control your schedule more? Right,
- 27:16Speaker 3: because you go from reliever. You never know when you're
- 27:17Speaker 3: going to be used. You have to be ready at
- 27:19Speaker 3: all times. You can really set yourself for that one
- 27:22Speaker 3: big day that you're about to have and just kind
- 27:24Speaker 3: of leading also into what changed for you as a starter.
- 27:28Speaker 3: It's not like you hadn't done it before, but did
- 27:30Speaker 3: you feel like you learned something about yourself that enabled
- 27:33Speaker 3: you to consistently take down hitters better than ever in
- 27:36Speaker 3: that roll down the stretch.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a big build up with starting, and that
- 27:43Speaker 1: whole day of you get to the park and there's
- 27:47Speaker 1: it's just a slow build up. It's not the same
- 27:49Speaker 1: in the bullpen where it's kind of sitting around and
- 27:53Speaker 1: then all of a sudden.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Your name is called.
- 27:54Speaker 1: But having that whole day to prepare and let that
- 28:00Speaker 1: slow burn kind of go until the game time, it's
- 28:03Speaker 1: my favorite part. Yeah, and it's about game planning and
- 28:10Speaker 1: visualization is big for me. So I'm just going through
- 28:12Speaker 1: the lineup and just slowly figuring out how to navigate
- 28:17Speaker 1: that and use my arsenal to the best I can.
- 28:23Speaker 2: That's been fun for me is just.
- 28:24Speaker 1: Figuring out how to optimize my arsenal and kind of
- 28:29Speaker 1: game plan because it's more of like a checker's I mean,
- 28:35Speaker 1: more of a chest for me than that because a
- 28:37Speaker 1: lot of guys can just kind of blow heaters by guys,
- 28:41Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have to be more crafty and.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Kind of use all my pitches.
- 28:45Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of fun for me to game
- 28:48Speaker 1: plan and figure out what's best for me.
- 28:50Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. By the way, we're
- 28:52Speaker 2: gonna show your shirt you have on You were born
- 28:54Speaker 2: in ninety six, by the way, so you have how
- 28:57Speaker 2: do you have that shirt? It's a repeat three last
- 29:01Speaker 2: time the Blue Jay's one World series back to back,
- 29:03Speaker 2: But how do you have that shirt because you weren't
- 29:05Speaker 2: born even when they won those two World Series. I
- 29:08Speaker 2: do a lot of thrifting and stuff.
- 29:11Speaker 1: There's great, that's a chops in Toronto, So I try
- 29:13Speaker 1: to scope them out, but I don't know.
- 29:16Speaker 2: I just try to wear stuff like this because.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Guys see it, and then I feel like we're manifesting it,
- 29:23Speaker 1: trying to bring a trying a ring to the city,
- 29:25Speaker 1: and I feel like I trying to see, uh if
- 29:31Speaker 1: guys can catch on to just law of attraction.
- 29:33Speaker 2: I guess thrifting. Thrifting, so that's where you get a
- 29:36Speaker 2: lot of your outfits. And what's your go to thrift
- 29:40Speaker 2: store like bell Bottoms, you know, corduroy, Because when you
- 29:45Speaker 2: walk into a thrift store, what do you I mean,
- 29:50Speaker 2: there's a bunch of different things. I like old shirts.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I like like old dicky pants are fun to Torontuh,
- 30:03Speaker 1: some old button downs I try to get fun with
- 30:05Speaker 1: on the plane rise and stuff.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Have they had a bout in France's dress up day
- 30:08Speaker 2: yet where they everyone has to dress like you?
- 30:10Speaker 1: No, we had a chappy one and it's similar basically.
- 30:15Speaker 1: But guys are they like to wear their bounding shirt
- 30:20Speaker 1: Some days they'll be like, look at me, guys, guys
- 30:27Speaker 1: find it funny.
- 30:28Speaker 2: But yeah, they like it, so you can pull that off.
- 30:31Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not just doesn't look good on me.
- 30:33Speaker 2: You're you're more the skinny model type. I'm more the fact.
- 30:36Speaker 2: What's this guy wearing that shirt?
- 30:38Speaker 4: Forward?
- 30:38Speaker 2: Look rocket? I don't know. Next time I in Toronto's
- 30:42Speaker 2: gonna take me to the thrift store. We see what
- 30:43Speaker 2: we can find there. You go.
- 30:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.
- 30:46Speaker 3: He's got the tats too, So Bowden's got the look.
- 30:49Speaker 4: I like it. Man.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Well, appreciate it, dude.
- 30:51Speaker 5: Great to have you on.
- 30:52Speaker 3: Love the shirt, love the attitude, and we'll do it
- 30:55Speaker 3: again sometime this season. But appreciate the time, dude, and
- 30:58Speaker 3: good luck for the rest of spring.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Appreciate man, Thank you all for having me.
- 31:02Speaker 5: Thank you