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Speaker 1: Time for the Countdown to kickoff interviews ahead of the
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Speaker 1: week ten AFC South Showdown between the Jacksonville Jaguars and
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. JP Shadwick with you, and let's start
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Speaker 1: with the Voice of the Texans, Mark Vandermere, with an
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Speaker 1: inside look at a team up against the wall. Now
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Speaker 1: at three and five, Mark Vandermere, the voice of the
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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. The Jags and the Texans for the second time,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars trying to sweep the season series for the
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Speaker 1: first time since twenty seventeen. Both teams banged up, right now, Mark,
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's dig into this Houston team and
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Speaker 1: what is the Davis Mills experience going to be like?
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Speaker 2: Well, this is a Class of twenty one reunion. JP.
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Speaker 3: You know you got Trevor Lawrence and Davis Mills going
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Speaker 3: at it now. Mills was a third round pick, of course,
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Speaker 3: not the fanfare of Trevor Lawrence. But Mills is four
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Speaker 3: five and one versus the AFC South in his career,
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Speaker 3: so there's something. I mean, it's not a great record,
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Speaker 3: it's not a winning record, but it's a record and
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Speaker 3: Mills has twenty five starts in his career. This will
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Speaker 3: be starting number twenty, so he's played a lot of football.
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Speaker 2: When he came into the game last Sunday, it had
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Speaker 2: been a while.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: He played well in the finale against Tennessee last year.
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Speaker 3: Didn't play the first drive of the game. They just
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Speaker 3: want to get CJ going in that game, and then
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Speaker 3: Mills played well the rest of the way pretty well,
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Speaker 3: And I think that Mills has got a lot going
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Speaker 3: for him when he's got the full cup of soup,
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Speaker 3: you know, a full week of practice prep all of it.
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Speaker 3: He talked about, Yeah, he's mentally ready every week, but
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Speaker 3: the speed of the game is just something that he's
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Speaker 3: got to get used to. So he wasn't able to
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Speaker 3: be at his best against the Broncos. So maybe it's
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Speaker 3: a lot better against the Jaguars. But he's not the
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Speaker 3: only guy who's backed up, So we'll see how it goes.
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Speaker 1: Can they run the football to help him? How's the
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Speaker 1: offensive line play been and all that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Chubbs started the week hurt, so you don't
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Speaker 2: know about him.
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Speaker 3: Woody Marx has been really good for them, and I
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Speaker 3: like Woody marks getting more touches. Actually after that there's
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Speaker 3: a drop off, but Damian Pierce.
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Speaker 2: You know, we've seen some good things.
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Speaker 3: The best run of his career is against the Jags,
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Speaker 3: as you know, in twenty twenty two, So it wasn't
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Speaker 3: long run, but it was an angry run. It one
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Speaker 3: angry run of the year on NFL Network. So you
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Speaker 3: never know how this is going to go with the
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Speaker 3: running game. I think that they'll be committed to try it.
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Speaker 3: It's tough against the Jaguars, but they have to try
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Speaker 3: it because if it's just Mills throwing all the time,
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Speaker 3: and I thought they might have thrown it a little
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Speaker 3: too much down the stretch against Denver because it was
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Speaker 3: just a slim margin you were dealing with. They were
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Speaker 3: never down more than three points in that one in
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Speaker 3: the second half. So I think that they'll attempt to
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Speaker 3: run the ball well JP and you know, maybe Damien's
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Speaker 3: got something left, but what he has a whole lot
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Speaker 3: to offer. They just have to find a way to
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Speaker 3: pave some holes for him, to make some holes for
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Speaker 3: him with the guys up front, and they've got injuries
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Speaker 3: there too, so we'll see how it goes.
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Speaker 1: Dag Wrz couldn't cover bruck Bowers last week, tied end
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Speaker 1: for the Raiders had three touchdowns. So how's Dalton Schultz
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Speaker 1: feeling going into the game.
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Speaker 3: You know, he's been playing with all sorts of ailments,
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Speaker 3: but he's been out there and he's been good for
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Speaker 3: them and leading them and receiving many of the weeks.
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Speaker 3: And I think that he's probably, you know, outside of
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Speaker 3: Nico Collins, he's their best receiving weapon for sure, so
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Speaker 3: they'll look to lean on him.
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Speaker 2: You know, he's a good target.
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Speaker 3: He's not Brock Bowers, but he's definitely useful out there.
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Speaker 3: They got Nico back last week after he missed the
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers game the week before, And it was
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Speaker 3: interesting in that forty nine Ers game JP because no
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Speaker 3: Nico Collins, no Christian Kirk yet they were dealing CJ
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Speaker 3: threw for over three hundred yards against a good defense.
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Speaker 3: Now they had some guys out too, but the Texans
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Speaker 3: were without Nico Collins and Christian Kirk, so and this
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Speaker 3: was a Texans team that had been challenged to throw
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Speaker 3: the football against good teams and they did it well.
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Speaker 3: So I think if all the guys can work well together,
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Speaker 3: they can get some things done. It was interesting with
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Speaker 3: Kirk coming back in because Kirk's been good, and you
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Speaker 3: know Kirk is a good player, But this Jael and
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Speaker 3: Knowle who they have the rookie from Iowa State. I
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Speaker 3: know they drafted Jayden Higgins higher, but I think Nol
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Speaker 3: is really good. You have to get him the ball somehow.
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Speaker 3: And I believe they'll look at that game tape against
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Speaker 3: Denver and say, we got to find a way to
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Speaker 3: get jalen O some touches.
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Speaker 2: I don't care who's on the team.
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Speaker 3: We got to find a way to get this guy
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Speaker 3: in the ball at least four or five times as
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Speaker 3: a receiver. He had a big punt return in the
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Speaker 3: Denver game to give him great field position in plus territory.
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Speaker 2: They only got a field goal out of that.
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Speaker 3: But I think you're with me that in this upcoming game,
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Speaker 3: field goals are going to be worth plenty. This is
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Speaker 3: a low scoring affair shaping up to be in all likelihood.
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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer, voice of the Houston Texans with us and
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Speaker 1: a big reason why it could be a low scoring
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Speaker 1: affair as it was last time. Is this Texans defense
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Speaker 1: ranked number one in the National Football League. How different
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Speaker 1: are they from Week three?
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Speaker 3: They've really found their stride and they played good defense
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Speaker 3: against the Jags. I really feel that way. I know
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Speaker 3: the final drive it wasn't there. But this Texans offense
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Speaker 3: has been really challenged and the defense is on the
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Speaker 3: field a lot. The Texans offense against the Jags the
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Speaker 3: first meeting, you know, it was turnover city in the
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter of me my gosh. You know, if you
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Speaker 3: just hang out out of the ball and kick a
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Speaker 3: field goal or two, you might win that game as
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Speaker 3: opposed to just coughing it up and donating it back
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Speaker 3: to the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: And they know that.
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Speaker 3: But this defense last week against Denver got off the
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Speaker 3: field again and again and again and again, and with
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Speaker 3: the Davis Mills led offense, they look pretty good. When
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Speaker 3: CJ first went out in the first half, Mills was
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Speaker 3: moving the team a little bit, but it was field goals,
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Speaker 3: not touchdowns. And then in the second half you had
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Speaker 3: zero for seven and third down a lot of three
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Speaker 3: and outs. It just didn't work, and it just felt
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Speaker 3: like a monumental task to get first downs. So I
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Speaker 3: believe that this is definitely one of the best defenses
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Speaker 3: in the league. You're right number one points in yards
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Speaker 3: and this is the deepest end of the season of
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Speaker 3: Texans offense has ever been this good at scoring, defense
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Speaker 3: at holding the opponent down, And I believe they'll be
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Speaker 3: able to do that against virtually anybody, including the Chiefs
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Speaker 3: when they get there in December. But the question is
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Speaker 3: can you match them on the offensive side of the football.
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Speaker 3: And this week with no CJ. Stroud and possibly no
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Speaker 3: Chubb and Titus Howard and the concussion protocol, you got
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Speaker 3: a lot of challenges there. But they'll have to do
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Speaker 3: their best and try to get it going because if
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Speaker 3: they don't get this one JP, it's three and six
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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be really tough.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, up against the wall for the Texans. Last game,
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Speaker 1: first half, Texans defense showed a look and stop the
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Speaker 1: Jags running attack in the first half. Jags adjusted at
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Speaker 1: halftime and got the job done with the ground game.
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Speaker 1: How's the run defense been as of late, especially in
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Speaker 1: the front seven.
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Speaker 3: Well, they played Derek Henry and they shut him down completely.
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Speaker 3: They played Christian McCaffrey and they basically shut him down.
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Speaker 3: And last week, you know they're going up against JK. Dobbins,
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Speaker 3: who's third in the league coming in and they did
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Speaker 3: a good job on him. So I believe that they're better.
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Speaker 3: They'll swarm on the running back. They'll figure out a
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Speaker 3: way to slow the running back down at the very least.
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Speaker 3: Now it becomes can you get to the quarterback on
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Speaker 3: third down? Can you force in completions? They're so good
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Speaker 3: in coverage on the edges with Kamari Lassiter and Derek
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Speaker 3: Stingley Junior. Now he's in the concussion protocol. He'd a
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Speaker 3: pick against the Jags last time. That's a big deal
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Speaker 3: for them because Petrie, I think Sean Payton went over
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Speaker 3: to talk to him directly after the game and talk
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Speaker 3: about how well he played. And this is a team
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Speaker 3: that has Derek Stingley Junior All Pro and Lasseter, who
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Speaker 3: I think people are finally starting to notice. So the secondary,
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Speaker 3: when everybody's healthy, is one of the best, if not
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Speaker 3: the best, in the league, and that enables I think
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Speaker 3: it really helps the pass rushers get to the quarterback.
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Speaker 3: They're not great in sacks as a whole as a team,
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Speaker 3: but Hunter and Will Anderson Jr.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the best tandems in the.
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Speaker 3: NFL, and the guys who rotate at defensive tackle, that
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Speaker 3: mix is really good.
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Speaker 2: Sheldon Rankins and friends.
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Speaker 3: They get after it as well, so they find a
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Speaker 3: way to slow down the run. There's no question I'm
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Speaker 3: fine with this defense. There's no question there are a
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Speaker 3: good defense. When you look at the numbers, when you
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Speaker 3: look at where they are in turnover margin and points
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Speaker 3: per game allowed and all that, you cannot believe they're
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Speaker 3: three and five.
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Speaker 2: Yet here they are.
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Speaker 1: It could be the Matthew Wright revenge game this week.
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Speaker 4: To the Texans.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's these kickers, man, I mean, how
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Speaker 3: about your kicker? This is unbelievable. You get to the fifty,
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Speaker 3: you're like, we're good. You know, it's crazy. It's crazy,
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Speaker 3: and I don't know how you see it, but I'm
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Speaker 3: sure you guys talk about this all the time. Field
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Speaker 3: position in this league. I was talking with Andre Davis
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Speaker 3: who played for the Texans and the O's and he
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Speaker 3: had two kickoff returns for a touchdown in one game
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Speaker 3: against the Jaguars in the seven finale, and he was
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Speaker 3: amazing in that era. But back then, a touchback was
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Speaker 3: at the twenty and it just felt normal. Now, if
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Speaker 3: you're at the twenty, it feels like what a punishment.
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Speaker 3: We didn't get to the thirty thirty five or forty
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Speaker 3: if they don't hit the landing zone and then you're
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Speaker 3: at field goal range just crossing to fifty these days,
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Speaker 3: it feels like with so many of these kickers, So
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Speaker 3: it becomes more important than ever to be great on
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Speaker 3: third and fourth down because now you feel like we
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Speaker 3: better be aggressive because of field goal. What does it
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Speaker 3: really do for us, because they're going to be in
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Speaker 3: range in a moment anyway, so you need the touch
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Speaker 3: downs more than ever. Now, this game could play out
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Speaker 3: differently because you have two. You have the Texans defense,
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Speaker 3: you know, the Jags defense against the depleted Texans offense.
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Speaker 3: So it could be one of those thirteen, ten, seventeen,
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Speaker 3: fourteen kind of games.
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Speaker 2: But we'll see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've we've seen a lot of those over the
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Speaker 1: years between the Texans and the Jags.
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Speaker 4: Maybe another one coming up.
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Speaker 1: Mark always a pleasure man, great to visit and.
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Speaker 4: Have a great game.
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Speaker 2: Thanks JP you two.
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Speaker 1: Each week, Mike Dempse catches up with CBS Sports senior
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Speaker 1: writer Pete Frisco.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's a good one for him. You
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Speaker 5: look at a true veteran doesn't drop the football, which
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Speaker 5: is different than some of the guys that they've had
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Speaker 5: around for the past, you know, eight games, and so
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Speaker 5: that's a step in the right direction. But he's a
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Speaker 5: pros pro from everything you hear from people around the league.
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Speaker 5: He gets it, he understands how to play, and he's
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Speaker 5: a physical guy going in the middle of the field.
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Speaker 5: So I think it's a really good move by them
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Speaker 5: to get a guy. Look, Deammy Brown's been you know,
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Speaker 5: one of those guys that's probably on a one year deal,
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Speaker 5: not going to come back, so you might as well
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Speaker 5: get a guy who can plug and play as a
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Speaker 5: veteran player, and I think it makes sense. It's a
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Speaker 5: good for this football team.
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Speaker 6: Everything you hear about Jacobe Myers is that he is
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Speaker 6: a pros pro. He will fit in well in any
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Speaker 6: locker room, goes about his business the right way. Pete,
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Speaker 6: is this a guy that if he clicks with Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 6: the Jaguars will prioritize trying to keep him around.
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Speaker 5: I think they will. You never know how it's going
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Speaker 5: to work until you get out on the field, but
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Speaker 5: judging by past history and they know him and so
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Speaker 5: I do think it's something that you'd like to keep
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Speaker 5: him around for the long run. So yeah, to answer
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Speaker 5: your question, yes, I think that the next eight games
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Speaker 5: in nine games are going to be big for him.
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Speaker 5: He's got to prove to people that he can be
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Speaker 5: a productive player in their offense, which, again, if you
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Speaker 5: can get that going, that's a big step in the
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Speaker 5: right director. We know they need receiver help, so it
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Speaker 5: makes sense, all right.
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Speaker 6: Well, the running game was a big aspect of the
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Speaker 6: offense that helped them get that win last week against
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Speaker 6: the Raiders Pete. They had about a three week period
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Speaker 6: where the numbers weren't great, but Travis etn had one
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Speaker 6: of his most impressive performances. Even though it was only
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Speaker 6: eighty four yards. I thought he ran very physically last week.
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Speaker 6: Is this what the offense needs to lean into now
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Speaker 6: going forward?
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Speaker 5: No question. And if you go back to the second
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Speaker 5: half of the Texans game, the last time they ran
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Speaker 5: the ball on them, and I think that's something you
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Speaker 5: want to be able to do, and I think it's
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Speaker 5: something you can do. You don't want to get in
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Speaker 5: situations where they turn their pass rushers loose. You want
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Speaker 5: to be able to run the football and I think
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Speaker 5: this is one of those games where you try and
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Speaker 5: do that. And I'm glad you mentioned ETM because look,
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Speaker 5: there were a lot of us, myself included, who kind
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Speaker 5: of counted him out this year, not counted him out,
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Speaker 5: but didn't think he'd be the factor he's been. And
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Speaker 5: he's been a guy that's been great in the locker room,
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Speaker 5: and he shows up the weekend and week out and
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Speaker 5: he runs tough. I mean, you saw that last week.
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Speaker 5: So kudos to him. I don't know if it's enough
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Speaker 5: to keep him around for the next year, but he's
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Speaker 5: done a nice job and I think the ideally they
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Speaker 5: like to continue to do that against the Texans.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, and like you said, if you can run
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Speaker 6: the ball against those pass rushers slow him down, that
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Speaker 6: would be great. The Jags offensive won did a pretty
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Speaker 6: good job because it was a close game the first
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Speaker 6: time and they only allowed two sacks in the game.
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Speaker 1: In that game.
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Speaker 6: On the other side, for the Jacks pass rush, Josh
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Speaker 6: heinz Allen had a half sack and three quarterback hits.
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Speaker 6: Now he'll be going up against Davis Mills as we
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Speaker 6: know that CJ. Strout has been ruled out. Pete, I
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Speaker 6: feel like the pass rush could have a big effect
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Speaker 6: in this game. With hinz Allen and even though Trayvon's
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Speaker 6: not one hundred percent that this is one where you've
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Speaker 6: got to rattle Mills.
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Speaker 5: No question about it. And the Texans offensive line has
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Speaker 5: improved in the last couple of weeks. It's been better.
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Speaker 5: It's still not good, but it's been better, and it
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Speaker 5: was one of the worst. So yeah, I think it's
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Speaker 5: you got to get after that quarterback and they got
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Speaker 5: to get him on the ground, and you know, not
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Speaker 5: just Josh heinz Allen. I think other guys have to
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Speaker 5: get him on the ground. And you know, Trayvon Walker
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Speaker 5: needs to play better. I know he's got the club
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Speaker 5: on his hands, but you know, he hasn't been a
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Speaker 5: factor and he needs to be better. So I get it.
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Speaker 5: I think ideally you'd like to be able to pressure
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Speaker 5: the quarterback, and it's a lot easier to pressure a
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Speaker 5: guy like Mills, I think than it is a guy
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Speaker 5: like c J. Strout, even though CJ. Strout isn't a
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Speaker 5: guy who runs, but he can move around and he
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Speaker 5: makes throws while moving around. I think this is a
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Speaker 5: big advantage playing Davis Mills.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, any quarterback in the national football should
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Speaker 6: be able to complete passes when given time so let's
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Speaker 6: not let have Davis Mills have all day sitting back there, Pete,
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Speaker 6: because you know Geno Smith did go out and throw
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Speaker 6: four touchdowns. And I understand brock Bowers is an exceptional talent,
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Speaker 6: but Nico Collins is not. Chopped Liver and Jaguars have
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Speaker 6: a lot of injuries in the secondary as a whether
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Speaker 6: it's this week or just moving forward, How concerning is
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Speaker 6: that group of safeties and corners because they have thinned
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Speaker 6: out a little bit with injury.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they show up. I mean the injuries show up.
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Speaker 5: You saw Antonio Johnson playing last week and it made
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Speaker 5: some blunders and didn't play very well. And if it
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Speaker 5: wasn't for the batted down ball by Devon Hamilton, it
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Speaker 5: would have been a blunder by Antonio Johnson that cost
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Speaker 5: him the game on.
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Speaker 4: The last play.
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Speaker 5: So I think the injuries have added up in the secondary,
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Speaker 5: and I think you're seeing guys getting caught in situations
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Speaker 5: they necessarily don't need to be in. And Andrew Wingert
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Speaker 5: is another one. You get him in a one on
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Speaker 5: one situation. He's had problems the last month of the season.
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Speaker 5: So they're limited athletically on the back end at times,
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Speaker 5: and I think teams have started to take advantage of that.
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Speaker 5: So it'll be interesting to see what they do to
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Speaker 5: kind of compensate for that. You know, Campinelli's a good
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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator, but sometimes when you call him plays and
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Speaker 5: you're dealing with limited guys in terms of talent and
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Speaker 5: their athletic ability, you got to be a little bit
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Speaker 5: more conservative than maybe you'd like to be.
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Speaker 6: All Right, all that being said, Pete, how do you
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Speaker 6: see it going down today?
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Speaker 5: You know, when I thought Stroud was going to play,
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Speaker 5: I thought the Texans would win the game. But Stroud
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Speaker 5: isn't play, and I think Jacksonville could run the ball
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Speaker 5: and limit what Davisville's does. I think Jacksonville go in there.
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Speaker 7: And win the game.
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Speaker 1: Moving on to the Jaguars now, of course, and wide receivers.
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Speaker 1: Coach Edgar Bennett has been busy the last few weeks
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Speaker 1: with injury issues, but he's coaching back in his hometown.
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Speaker 1: Something he told Brian Sexton this week is still hard
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Speaker 1: to believe.
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Speaker 8: It really is a dream come true. And the only
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Speaker 8: thing I wish was my mom and dad was here
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Speaker 8: to see it, because my dad would just be going
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Speaker 8: head over heels, right now and how excited he was
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Speaker 8: supporting this team and me being home and being a
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Speaker 8: part of this team, this organization. Oh my gosh, words
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Speaker 8: can't even I can't even express it.
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Speaker 9: You're not just home in your city. I heard that,
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Speaker 9: you're you're in your parents' home. You're remodeling it. That
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Speaker 9: what a great feeling that must be.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, because it's still it's still a big part of us,
15:22
Speaker 8: and I can still their presence as far as being
15:25
Speaker 8: in there. But yeah, we renovated it and and and
15:28
Speaker 8: you know, my brothers have been there, my sister, they've
15:31
Speaker 8: all helped out, and so it's been great.
15:33
Speaker 9: All Right. Professional football is about adjusting week to week.
15:36
Speaker 9: Last week, Travis goes down for a couple of weeks,
15:39
Speaker 9: Brian gets hurt in the game, and now you've got
15:42
Speaker 9: Jacoby Myers who you had in Vegas. Just give me
15:44
Speaker 9: an overview of the week before we talk about Jacoby
15:47
Speaker 9: and what it's been like for you.
15:48
Speaker 8: Well, just you know, having guys that come in with
15:51
Speaker 8: the right mindset and prepared the way they prepare. And
15:55
Speaker 8: even last week going into that game, because we had
15:57
Speaker 8: a couple of guys with all Sun and Tim jumping
16:00
Speaker 8: there and played critical roles for us at the end.
16:02
Speaker 8: Their preparation can't say enough positive about him and how
16:05
Speaker 8: they approach to the game. And so when you're working
16:08
Speaker 8: with guys like that, it makes it fun. It makes
16:11
Speaker 8: it fun because that's what it's about. That's what it's about,
16:14
Speaker 8: you know, getting in those type situations, certain adverse situations,
16:18
Speaker 8: and just coming out on top based on what we
16:20
Speaker 8: did in practice and what we talked about when we
16:22
Speaker 8: get in those situations, how we'll handle ourselves.
16:25
Speaker 9: So people who are listening to this don't know a
16:26
Speaker 9: lot about Jacoby Myers. You had him eighty seven catches
16:28
Speaker 9: a thousand yard season last year. Give us scouting report
16:31
Speaker 9: on Jacoby.
16:32
Speaker 8: I'll just say this, when it comes to Kobes, you're
16:35
Speaker 8: going to get a guy that loves football, loves football,
16:39
Speaker 8: loves competing. He's an extremely competitor. I'm not going to
16:45
Speaker 8: get into all of the details as far as some
16:47
Speaker 8: of the things that make him stand out as a
16:49
Speaker 8: wide receiver, but obviously his hands, his ability to create separation,
16:52
Speaker 8: all those things, run after the catch, everything that you
16:55
Speaker 8: would look for in a Jag is Jacoby Myers.
16:59
Speaker 9: Here's what I've heard is that he's a pro he's
17:01
Speaker 9: a top competitor, and that he showed up here ready
17:04
Speaker 9: to go. I mean, talk about a challenge. Take me
17:06
Speaker 9: back to your playing days that you didn't you were
17:08
Speaker 9: never traded mid season.
17:09
Speaker 2: But but you have to understand how hard that must be.
17:12
Speaker 8: It is because you get you get so caught up
17:14
Speaker 8: into a routine, and then when something throws your routine off,
17:19
Speaker 8: like being traded and flying into the next team at
17:23
Speaker 8: ten thirty at night and going over the playbook until
17:27
Speaker 8: maybe twelve o'clock at night till midnight, and then you
17:30
Speaker 8: come in take your physical the next morning at six
17:33
Speaker 8: thirty in the morning. Then you got to dive right
17:34
Speaker 8: back into meetings and just get right back into the
17:38
Speaker 8: preparation part of things. So you just you have to
17:40
Speaker 8: be meintly strong. And that's again you you're talking about
17:44
Speaker 8: Jakobe Meyers, a god that's mainly strong. He's going to
17:47
Speaker 8: be well prepared and he's going to make the most
17:50
Speaker 8: of his opportunities. But definitely the work week, you know,
17:52
Speaker 8: when you're when you're kind of throwing out of your
17:54
Speaker 8: routine a little bit, you know, it takes a lot
17:56
Speaker 8: to get back into it.
17:57
Speaker 9: And since we can't really talk about Brian or Drivis
17:59
Speaker 9: because they're not going right now. Tell me about Parker Washington.
18:02
Speaker 9: He's been here for a couple of years. I've always
18:04
Speaker 9: been impressed with his intensity, with the way he plays
18:07
Speaker 9: the game. What have you learned from him in the
18:08
Speaker 9: time you've had him?
18:09
Speaker 8: What really stands out the most and what I really
18:12
Speaker 8: really love about him is just some of the things
18:14
Speaker 8: that you just said, his intensity and just his work ethic.
18:18
Speaker 8: This guy he puts in the work and when you
18:20
Speaker 8: when you work like that, good things abound to happen.
18:23
Speaker 8: I mean you see it on the field, off the field,
18:26
Speaker 8: I mean, he goes that that extra mile in his
18:29
Speaker 8: preparation to be at the best that he could possibly be.
18:32
Speaker 4: And I love that about him.
18:33
Speaker 9: Let's wrap it with this. You want it, Lee, not
18:35
Speaker 9: Riverside High. You wanted Florida State. But whatd it mean
18:38
Speaker 9: to you to win here? To bring a championship to
18:41
Speaker 9: your hometown.
18:44
Speaker 4: Wow, that's what it's about.
18:47
Speaker 8: That's what it's about, you know, getting this opportunity Coach
18:50
Speaker 8: Kryn bringing me here with Tony La Sally and James
18:54
Speaker 8: being a part of this, That's what it's about. That's
18:56
Speaker 8: what it's about. Coming home and being a part of
18:58
Speaker 8: something special so this city can celebrate. Oh my god,
19:04
Speaker 8: I mean that's that's that's the mission.
19:07
Speaker 2: Best of luck today against the Houston Texans.
19:09
Speaker 4: Appreciate you.
19:10
Speaker 1: Cornerback Greg Newsom is getting settled into his position after
19:14
Speaker 1: the trade from Cleveland a few weeks back.
19:16
Speaker 10: Yeah, nah, it takes it takes a minute, But I
19:18
Speaker 10: think a lot of it is is the mental part. Like, mentally,
19:21
Speaker 10: you have to put yourself into a new system, into
19:24
Speaker 10: a new group of guys, and you got to kind
19:26
Speaker 10: of learn guys, you know quick. I feel like obviously
19:29
Speaker 10: leaving mid season of a team that you're comfortable with
19:32
Speaker 10: is definitely hard. But I think that BI week was
19:35
Speaker 10: at the right time for me. I'm just being able
19:38
Speaker 10: to go back see my family, regroup, recenter, and refocus.
19:42
Speaker 9: Coming to a team that has playoff expectations. How much
19:46
Speaker 9: does that energize you considering that the Browns are still
19:48
Speaker 9: kind of bouncing around trying to get their season started,
19:51
Speaker 9: and what does it mean for a guy like Jacobe
19:53
Speaker 9: who's coming in here from a similar situation.
19:56
Speaker 10: Yeah, not's huge for me. It's just like you got
19:59
Speaker 10: to take your play up another level.
20:01
Speaker 11: This is a playoff team.
20:03
Speaker 10: Obviously, getting traded to a playoff team that means they
20:05
Speaker 10: want you here, they think that you can help, you know,
20:08
Speaker 10: raise them to that next level. So there's definitely some
20:10
Speaker 10: pressure put on you. But you know, for me, I
20:13
Speaker 10: live for pressure. So it's definitely like a guy like him,
20:16
Speaker 10: I know he'll be ready to go. I know he's
20:18
Speaker 10: going to be super excited and he's going to do
20:20
Speaker 10: great things.
20:21
Speaker 2: You seem very comfortable last week.
20:22
Speaker 9: Now you go into a divisional matchup against the Texans
20:26
Speaker 9: team that this team has had a nice little rub with.
20:30
Speaker 9: How do you acclimate yourself to a new rivalry.
20:33
Speaker 11: Yeah, see, it's crazy.
20:35
Speaker 10: I played the Texans and the playoffs in twenty twenty
20:38
Speaker 10: three and they got the better the better of us.
20:40
Speaker 11: So I'm super excited for this matchup.
20:42
Speaker 10: But as I said, in division games like they're always
20:45
Speaker 10: the most important games those normally the division winners are
20:48
Speaker 10: obviously the guys.
20:49
Speaker 11: That go to the playoffs.
20:50
Speaker 10: So you got to really set the foundation and I
20:53
Speaker 10: think this game is going.
20:54
Speaker 11: To be huge for us and we'll do a great job.
20:56
Speaker 9: I heard you talking earlier. This is that moment of
20:58
Speaker 9: the season where everything changes and the contenders emerge and
21:01
Speaker 9: the pretenders kind of fall back. What's the mindset of
21:03
Speaker 9: this locker room, best as you can tell, and what's
21:05
Speaker 9: it take to be successful?
21:07
Speaker 10: Yeah, the mindset of us is just taking day by day,
21:09
Speaker 10: keep stacking wins. Like I said, no game is going
21:12
Speaker 10: to finish the same. You're gonna need different parts of
21:15
Speaker 10: the team, whether a special teams, offense, defensive, step up
21:17
Speaker 10: in certain moments. So really it's just capture the moment
21:20
Speaker 10: when it's your time to shine, when it's your time
21:22
Speaker 10: to make a stop or score a touchdown, do that
21:25
Speaker 10: for the team. And like you said, this is where
21:27
Speaker 10: contenders come. And I think, like I said, getting a
21:29
Speaker 10: guy like Jacobe shows where we're headed.
21:32
Speaker 9: You're an excellent communicator and you're obviously a fan of
21:34
Speaker 9: the game. Where does it come from? Are you a
21:36
Speaker 9: coach's son? Where did this innate understanding of how it
21:39
Speaker 9: all fits together come from?
21:41
Speaker 11: Yeah?
21:41
Speaker 10: I just think it's just from just being a kid.
21:45
Speaker 10: I love the game of football from a young age.
21:48
Speaker 10: One of my best friends in high school his uncle
21:51
Speaker 10: was Kelvin Hayden, so I was always around, you know,
21:54
Speaker 10: great football players and just even going to IMG Academy
21:57
Speaker 10: as a senior just shows the level of football that
22:00
Speaker 10: I wanted to play going to Northwestern. You got to
22:03
Speaker 10: be very smart to get into a school like that.
22:06
Speaker 10: So it's just fun really knowing the ends and outs
22:09
Speaker 10: of the game. It makes it a lot easier. It
22:10
Speaker 10: makes it a lot more fun too, So that's just
22:13
Speaker 10: something as a young kid, I just prided myself on being,
22:16
Speaker 10: you know, being very cerebral out there.
22:19
Speaker 1: And finally, of course, as always, Pride of the Jaguars
22:21
Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor. Time for our weekly conversation with
22:25
Speaker 1: Pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. Week ten
22:28
Speaker 1: Divisional play Jaguars at Detexans. The Jags trying to sweep
22:32
Speaker 1: Detectionans for the first time since twenty seventeen. Since then,
22:37
Speaker 1: the Texans are twelve and three against the Jags. It's
22:41
Speaker 1: all in the rear view, Fred, it's all about this week.
22:44
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great time. It's a great time to
22:47
Speaker 7: erase all of that JP. You know, I hated two
22:51
Speaker 7: teams throughout my career. Obviously everyone knows the number one
22:56
Speaker 7: team will be the Tennessee Titans. Two team is the
23:00
Speaker 7: Houston Texans because when they came into existence, I.
23:03
Speaker 4: Believe it was around like five or something like that.
23:07
Speaker 7: What was it, you know the history, Yeah, yeah, that's
23:09
Speaker 7: about right, yep, something like that as an expansion team.
23:13
Speaker 7: And then I thought we would just beat them all
23:15
Speaker 7: the time. Right, They're supposed to be your back, the
23:18
Speaker 7: person that you're taking your two shit and just bully.
23:21
Speaker 7: I thought they were supposed to be that team, but
23:23
Speaker 7: they weren't. They found a way to eventually beat us.
23:27
Speaker 7: And I've said it, as you just mentioned twelve and
23:29
Speaker 7: three since twenty seventeen. We gotta find a way to
23:32
Speaker 7: change all of that, and I think it happens here today.
23:37
Speaker 1: Bread the last game Week three, just a physical battle
23:41
Speaker 1: in the trenches. Jaguars won the game seventeen to ten,
23:44
Speaker 1: but I mean this was slugfest. Jacks couldn't run in
23:48
Speaker 1: the first half, but then found a way to run
23:50
Speaker 1: enough of the second half. Defense had three takeaways in
23:53
Speaker 1: that game. So is it a similar feel. I mean,
23:56
Speaker 1: it's always going to be a physical matchup of the
23:58
Speaker 1: trenches when the Texans are.
23:59
Speaker 7: Here, right, Yeah, It's always that's what they want to play,
24:02
Speaker 7: you know. Obviously it comes down from their head coach,
24:06
Speaker 7: Tamiko Rians, a guy who I played against a guy
24:09
Speaker 7: who's physical, competitive, fiery, like, he's energetic, he's everything, and
24:16
Speaker 7: that's the way he's coaching his defense. Especially coming over
24:19
Speaker 7: from San fran they had defenses that wanted to be physical,
24:23
Speaker 7: they wanted to be fast, and they played lights out
24:26
Speaker 7: each and every snap. So you're gonna get that from
24:28
Speaker 7: their defense each and every time you match up with
24:32
Speaker 7: them on the flip side. Offensively, they're gonna be without CJ. Stroud,
24:37
Speaker 7: Davis Mills, someone who's come in the game who's actually
24:40
Speaker 7: played pretty well as a backup, so you can't sleep
24:43
Speaker 7: or blink on him because he'll put up plays. So
24:48
Speaker 7: the key is JP gonna have to get pressure. We're
24:52
Speaker 7: gonna have to simply dominate the line of scrimmage from
24:55
Speaker 7: a defensive standpoint and from the Jaguars offensive standpoint, based
25:01
Speaker 7: on you know, the guys that are up. They're gonna
25:05
Speaker 7: have to play well and we're gonna have to be
25:06
Speaker 7: able to establish the run and also protect Trevor Lawrence
25:10
Speaker 7: against a pretty good Texans pass rush.
25:13
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with US Earlier this season, the Jaguars made
25:16
Speaker 1: an end season trade to get Greg Newsoman here at cornerback.
25:20
Speaker 1: Now they've executed another in season trade. Which of Kobe
25:23
Speaker 1: Meyers coming in from Vegas is the wide receiver, So
25:28
Speaker 1: you know which one's more difficult, corner getting ready to
25:30
Speaker 1: play or this wide receiver tree and all the possibilities
25:35
Speaker 1: for Liam Cohen.
25:37
Speaker 4: JP, I would probably say.
25:41
Speaker 7: The receiver coming in to get ready to play, because
25:44
Speaker 7: if you think about it, for the most part, defenses, cornerback,
25:49
Speaker 7: it's all universal. How many times can you say, all right,
25:52
Speaker 7: Mandy Man cover one, cover three, cover two. I mean,
25:56
Speaker 7: it's all pretty much the same stuff. You know, each
26:00
Speaker 7: coordinator they might have different variations of it or a
26:06
Speaker 7: different technique that they want their corners or you know,
26:11
Speaker 7: guys to play, but it's it's pretty much the same, uh,
26:15
Speaker 7: And I think it's easier to learn defensively than it
26:18
Speaker 7: is offensively. Now on the other side, as a as
26:23
Speaker 7: a receiver, you have to move and play very variable,
26:28
Speaker 7: varying positions. So you have X, you have Y, you
26:33
Speaker 7: have the F, you know, you have Z. So it
26:37
Speaker 7: all depends on where you're going to be, the route
26:40
Speaker 7: you have to run, versus you know, alternations in those routes,
26:44
Speaker 7: versus different coverages. So the big receiver is a lot
26:48
Speaker 7: harder to learn than cornerback.
26:50
Speaker 1: But the guy's been at it for a long time.
26:52
Speaker 1: Apparently very reliable, clearly can catch the football and from
26:56
Speaker 1: all accounts, is a pretty sharp guy. He was impressive
26:59
Speaker 1: of the media conference the other day.
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Speaker 4: Fred, Yeah, he's hungry, JP.
27:03
Speaker 7: I can tell you this undrafted out of North Carolina State,
27:07
Speaker 7: played in New England for a few years, got some
27:09
Speaker 7: really good coaching on the coach Belichick there. So he
27:13
Speaker 7: understands what it takes to be a pro and that's
27:16
Speaker 7: how he moves with the sense of urgency, understanding that,
27:20
Speaker 7: you know, this is my job. So being undrafted, understanding
27:24
Speaker 7: that this is my job, learning from one of the
27:26
Speaker 7: best coaches ever, being able to go with the Vegas
27:28
Speaker 7: to play with the Raiders, and then to be able
27:31
Speaker 7: to see the differences and organizations coming from New England
27:35
Speaker 7: going to the Raiders.
27:36
Speaker 4: Hey, that's night and day right.
27:38
Speaker 7: So, and now he's down in Jacksonville with the opportunity
27:42
Speaker 7: to help these younger receivers from what he's seen and
27:47
Speaker 7: also hopefully helped the team with his playmaking ability because
27:50
Speaker 7: he has shown that he has extremely great run after
27:55
Speaker 7: the catch. He can go get it the deep ball
27:58
Speaker 7: I think he's all around talent, So hopefully that'll win
28:03
Speaker 7: and go in the Jaguars favor.
28:06
Speaker 1: Pret Taylor With US Jaguars defensively, some injuries in the
28:09
Speaker 1: back end, Jordan Lewis unavailable, Eric Murray's and I are,
28:14
Speaker 1: so you're gonna see some different faces out there in
28:16
Speaker 1: the back end. One face that's back on the field though,
28:19
Speaker 1: it is Devin Lloyd Jaguars linebackers set to play after
28:23
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks down. What will his impact be
28:27
Speaker 1: for this defense coming back? And what do you do
28:29
Speaker 1: in the back end with all these.
28:31
Speaker 7: Changes, I mean, just one with Devin, I'm sure the
28:35
Speaker 7: guys will appreciate him out there.
28:37
Speaker 4: He's one of them.
28:38
Speaker 7: He's an original starter, he's a guy who's made plays.
28:41
Speaker 7: You're talking about awareness, energy, and just really the confident
28:46
Speaker 7: like confidence. You know, me, if I had Tony Boselli
28:49
Speaker 7: out there, I feel better because I know what Tony
28:53
Speaker 7: brings to the table. I know Tony's not gonna let
28:55
Speaker 7: me down. He's gonna play hard every snap, and this
28:57
Speaker 7: is what you're gonna get out of Devin Lower and
29:00
Speaker 7: the guys know that, so they're gonna be excited to
29:03
Speaker 7: have him back when the back end, you cross your
29:06
Speaker 7: fingers and pray because the Texans they have a guy
29:11
Speaker 7: in Nico Collins who can make plays from anywhere on
29:15
Speaker 7: the field, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna have some
29:17
Speaker 7: shot opportunities lined.
29:18
Speaker 4: Up and they're gonna attempt them.
29:20
Speaker 7: So hopefully the guys were able to get the playbook
29:25
Speaker 7: down throughout the week, and you know, whatever they run,
29:30
Speaker 7: they just gotta be ready to play.
29:32
Speaker 4: That's what you get paid for.
29:34
Speaker 7: You get paid the big bucks to show up and
29:37
Speaker 7: show out, all.
29:38
Speaker 1: Right, fred An opportunity, Yes, to move to six and three,
29:42
Speaker 1: but to pretty much knock the Texans out.
29:46
Speaker 4: That's a double dip. That'd be a nice win.
29:49
Speaker 7: I'd be a double dip dipper, very nice win. When
29:52
Speaker 7: the last time we say six and three maybe, but
29:55
Speaker 7: two years ago.
29:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a minute.
29:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the twenty two twenty three season.
30:01
Speaker 4: I think before it collapsed was the last time. Yeah,
30:04
Speaker 4: so that would be two years ago. Yeah.
30:07
Speaker 1: I mean there's a winning record through eight games for
30:10
Speaker 1: the third time in the last ten years for the Jacks.
30:14
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I gotta keep it going regardless, No, got
30:17
Speaker 4: gotta keep it going.
30:18
Speaker 7: And it starts with a divisional opponent, you know, one
30:20
Speaker 7: who's been a thrown on your side for quite some time,
30:24
Speaker 7: so you know, if this is a down year for him,
30:28
Speaker 7: keep them down.
30:29
Speaker 4: Got to step on their necks. Can I say that
30:32
Speaker 4: you just did? Yeah? I did, and I agree. Right,
30:38
Speaker 4: I have a good one.
30:39
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you in the post.
30:40
Speaker 4: Game, Ahi, JP, I'll see you.
30:42
Speaker 1: The Jaguars visit the Texans Sunday at one o'clock. Enjoy
30:45
Speaker 1: the game.