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Press Pass | Jaguars HC Liam Coen Speaks at 2025 NFL Annual League Meeting · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: All good. I haven't seen since the COMMA. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think your roster now for here doing? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, what we
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  Speaker 2: really look to do is try to continue to raise
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  Speaker 2: the floor of the organization, Right, how do we continue
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  Speaker 2: to get better consistency, good sound football players that love
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  Speaker 2: to play the game. Really, that's all we were really
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  Speaker 2: trying to do. And I think that ultimately they'll come
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  Speaker 2: in and mess really well with some of the players
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  Speaker 2: that we already have in our locker room.
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  Speaker 1: Guys want to get better.
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  Speaker 2: We've felt that, we have felt that throughout this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are eager to get in the building as we
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  Speaker 2: are as coaches.
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  Speaker 1: Man, it's happening fast.
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  Speaker 2: So really excited about the collaboration we have had with
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  Speaker 2: some of the drafts, some of the free agency.
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  Speaker 1: In our current roster, things are going pretty well so far.
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  Speaker 1: Then you think it through some of the much I
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  Speaker 1: like about this free age place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you literally look, we you know
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  Speaker 2: with the four oh, well, really those guys at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, with McCary, Tuma Adoga, Robert Hainsey
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  Speaker 2: and obviously.
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  Speaker 1: With John and their Fred guys. These guys are.
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  Speaker 2: They love to play the game, They love what it's
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  Speaker 2: about to be an O lineman, right, That's kind of
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  Speaker 2: who they are at the core. Hainesy's been in the system,
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  Speaker 2: So now you have two O linemen that have been
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  Speaker 2: in your system now some version of it with Luke
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  Speaker 2: Fortner and now Hainsey. That'll help spread out to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of our players.
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  Speaker 1: They'll be able.
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  Speaker 2: To understand system a little bit quicker coaches.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna help from so many different ways.
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  Speaker 2: So you look at obviously the OL and then you
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  Speaker 2: know on the offensive side as well, at a receiver
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  Speaker 2: with deanbi Brown with getting some speed right, somebody else
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  Speaker 2: that can go down the field, so BT is not
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  Speaker 2: always having to be that guy on the top shelf.
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  Speaker 2: And then on the defensive side, man, you really look
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  Speaker 2: at Jordan Lewis and being able to bring another veteran
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  Speaker 2: defensive back in there help settle things down in the back.
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  Speaker 1: End and create some competition with Eric Murray.
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  Speaker 2: I think we've done a nice job with being to
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  Speaker 2: get those players that will help settle things in and
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  Speaker 2: be able to create that kind of balance football club
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  Speaker 2: that we're looking for. Arey too, Yeah, that was a
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  Speaker 2: great point is it so many guys that's familiar toy,
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  Speaker 2: but you man, it's on.
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  Speaker 1: The coaching staff too.
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  Speaker 2: That's the beautiful part, right, We've been able to get
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  Speaker 2: onboarded so much quicker just because man, look at the
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  Speaker 2: offensive staff, they have almost all been in a version
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  Speaker 2: of this system. So as much as being a head
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  Speaker 2: coach for the first time, it has been amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been able to do as much football as I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Used to, but to hear the conversations that are happening
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  Speaker 2: in the building, be able to go in there and
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  Speaker 2: hear the dialogue and the presentations. It's pretty cool because
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  Speaker 2: I'm familiar with that flow and so many guys just
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  Speaker 2: getting protections on boarded. All three of the quarterback ol
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  Speaker 2: running back coach have all been in this protection system.
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  Speaker 1: Think about how much quicker that is to be able
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  Speaker 1: to onboard the calendar that takes out game and got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time.
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  Speaker 2: We've spent almost every waking minute together throughout the last
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  Speaker 2: few weeks. Honestly, it's really just been us together with
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  Speaker 2: the help of some mothers as well that have been
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  Speaker 2: part of this problem process.
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  Speaker 1: But it's so easy to talk to him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he breaks things down to such an elite
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  Speaker 2: level of simplicity for me because he's a lot smarter
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  Speaker 2: than I am, and so he's able to break down
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  Speaker 2: the draft understand it as well as anybody I've heard
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  Speaker 2: had these conversations.
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  Speaker 1: We've got guys in buckets to where we're trying to look.
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  Speaker 2: For him, and he's been able to map things out
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  Speaker 2: for me to be able to understand at a high level.
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  Speaker 3: Was the collaboration piece chip.
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  Speaker 1: That was a huge part.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I was with him for a short
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  Speaker 2: time in LA that helped bridge that gap a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And I can't think bigger enough for what we were
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  Speaker 2: able to do last year.
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  Speaker 1: That was such a cool year and he was such
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  Speaker 1: a big part of that.
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  Speaker 2: Maturing off the field man, he became a father, he
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  Speaker 2: became a husband, like he has really been able to grow.
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  Speaker 2: He understands the game at a high level. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's a little underappreciated from.
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  Speaker 1: That aspect of his game.
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  Speaker 2: We were able to have really good dialogue, which only
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  Speaker 2: helps being on the field and having communication and his
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  Speaker 2: leadership goes, you know, without saying so, it was easy.
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  Speaker 1: To have those dialogues.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just being able to have honest conversations,
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  Speaker 2: like we had some real hard at times honest conversations
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  Speaker 2: that allowed us to in times of crisis be.
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  Speaker 1: Okay right, in times of adversity, have real fluid.
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  Speaker 2: Conversations because it gets heated. You know, Bakes yelled at me.
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  Speaker 2: I was okay with that. You know, we had a
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  Speaker 2: good conversation.
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  Speaker 1: We moved on. But you know, every relationship is different, and.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what's important is you learned something from
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  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, from Jared Goff, from all these guys in
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  Speaker 2: Baker to be able to take for these relationships moving forward.
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  Speaker 4: In your draft process kind of in a truncated start
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  Speaker 4: point here.
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  Speaker 1: Have you noticed anything about the way, if there's a.
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  Speaker 4: Way that James has packed a lot of information into
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  Speaker 4: that truncated area.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you look at the buckets, right, We've
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  Speaker 2: really kind of started to put players in buckets, and
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  Speaker 2: it's each round has too so we're able to have
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  Speaker 2: enough buckets there where it's not too much, but we
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  Speaker 2: do have enough on the board now also merging you know,
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  Speaker 2: all right, players that were off their board in LA
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  Speaker 2: that maybe we have to have conversations about here. It's
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  Speaker 2: been so organized The way he kind of has things
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  Speaker 2: is like a call sheet, like an offensive or defensive coaches.
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  Speaker 1: Call sheet, not your typical draft.
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  Speaker 2: Board, if you will, So it's easier for me to
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  Speaker 2: read and understand, which I think is really cool. He's
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  Speaker 2: a coach's kid, so he wants to do things that way,
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  Speaker 2: which I really appreciate.
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  Speaker 5: About of your staff as a first time that coach.
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  Speaker 4: What did you learned putting his staff together?
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  Speaker 1: Or shoot, yeah, that's a great one, Sarah. That was
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  Speaker 1: probably what took up the most of my time early on.
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  Speaker 2: That you you're ready for because you have a board, right,
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  Speaker 2: a coach's depth chart that you've been kind of creating
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  Speaker 2: over time, right over the years of doing this, you're
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  Speaker 2: banking them and then finally getting them on paper.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you don't just get the pick them. It's not
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  Speaker 1: the draft. You have to go get them. And so
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  Speaker 1: now you're recruiting against.
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  Speaker 2: Another coach and multiple maybe the other places, college, NFL families.
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  Speaker 1: Everything you have to sell. You're back in recruiting mode.
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  Speaker 2: So hey, it was just in college not too long ago.
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  Speaker 2: Gott in a mode real quick and we were rolling.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that was the hardest part though, was getting
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  Speaker 2: on those calls.
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  Speaker 1: Being able to recruit two AM on the West coast
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  Speaker 1: zooms it was a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot, but man, it really pleased with
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  Speaker 2: the staff we were able to put together and that
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  Speaker 2: was the most stressful part though from Sean.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how would you describe him as a recruiter.
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  Speaker 5: And what did you learn from Sean about the people
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  Speaker 5: he surrounded himself within.
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  Speaker 2: La Yeah, people that were you know, really when I
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  Speaker 2: walked into that building in two twenty eighteen, I had
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  Speaker 2: never felt anything like that before. Just the continuity, the positivity,
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  Speaker 2: the true like, man, hey, how are you like? It
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  Speaker 2: actually meant really meant something. I just felt like he
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  Speaker 2: stepped in that building was truly himself every single day.
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  Speaker 2: That was something I've really learned last year was I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to be somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: That was really just trying to be myself. And everybody
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  Speaker 1: does that.
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  Speaker 2: Good things typically happen and you build good relationships, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what he's always done. You have a real conversation
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  Speaker 2: with Sean McVay every time you guys see to interact,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that that's what ultimately makes him a
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  Speaker 2: great recruiter and surrounds him with unbelievable people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: I think we are. I mean, if you look at
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  Speaker 2: the way we set things up, like there is I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to say a succession, but it's it's built
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  Speaker 2: for people to elevate and grow. Like that's what we want.
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  Speaker 2: We want to win games right now for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: That's priority number one for these coaches.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd be silly not to say that. I want
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  Speaker 1: them to, you know, develop and evolve and grow. That's
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  Speaker 1: the goal.
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  Speaker 2: Like I want these guys to be able to go
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  Speaker 2: off and be successful. That means we did something right.
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  Speaker 2: But for right now, their focus is on uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: winning games for the Jacksonville Jaguars and that. Man, I've
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  Speaker 2: been really happy with their flowing. Anthony Campinelli is a
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  Speaker 2: first time defensive coordinator. I went and sat in a
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  Speaker 2: defensive staff room and that was being run like the
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  Speaker 2: players run there. It was he was making a call.
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  Speaker 2: The defensive staff is going all right. I got I
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  Speaker 2: got the cloud, I got the flat, I got the
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  Speaker 2: hook curl and it's like pup, pup up.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh shoot, it was moving. It was good.
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  Speaker 1: So really impressed. You know, some of them are in
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  Speaker 1: good situations.
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  Speaker 2: But when I come to this, hey, man, Like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was able to go to the rams and learn
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  Speaker 2: what I thought was like getting my PhD in coaching.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I'm not Shawn, and this is a version of
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  Speaker 1: that place. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe if you haven't been in this system or
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  Speaker 2: been a part of it from you know, whether you're
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  Speaker 2: more in it, you know, you just haven't had.
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  Speaker 1: An experience of working under one of these coaches yet.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, come just be bold, man, like, come do something different,
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  Speaker 2: Like come be a part of something that may not
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  Speaker 2: be what you're used to. And you know, Jacksonville doesn't hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Being this, you know, tax free state doesn't hurt. But
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  Speaker 2: really it's part of starting something new and truly, like
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  Speaker 2: I'm really saying, is like build it the way you
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  Speaker 2: want to be able to build it. Do things that
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  Speaker 2: you know are hard. It's gonna be hard, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: that's what's the fun part.
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  Speaker 6: Well, we'll talk about the learning curve for you making
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  Speaker 6: that transition from offensive coordinator the head coach, and also
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  Speaker 6: what does a typical day look like for you in
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  Speaker 6: the offseason?
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  Speaker 1: Man, that's I just got to ask that question. It's
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  Speaker 1: a really good one. No, No, it's a great one.
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  Speaker 2: I really do because you're as in oc you're managing Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know ten coaches, players, a little bit of staffing,
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  Speaker 2: but not you know, that's basically about it. Now there's
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  Speaker 2: other parts to it, and you just it keeps adding up,
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  Speaker 2: right with defense, special teams, a little bit of the
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  Speaker 2: situations outside.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the beautiful way of how we structure this.
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  Speaker 2: With myself, James Tony BISSELLI, I'm able to truly focus on.
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  Speaker 1: The staff like that's it. Like I don't keep the
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  Speaker 1: main thing the main thing. I'm a football coach. James
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  Speaker 1: does personnel.
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  Speaker 2: Tony is able to help with so much of the
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  Speaker 2: support staff and communication. So yeah, the I'm his double.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't done a lot of ball, but it's been
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  Speaker 2: really cool. I think with the players coming in soon
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  Speaker 2: be able to do a little bit more. But a
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  Speaker 2: normal day right now starts with about you know, six
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  Speaker 2: am that they have a schedule for me every day
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  Speaker 2: and then I go in with James for the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the day.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where we've been at right now. What wasn't
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  Speaker 1: about your one year what you wanted to bring with me? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you get in there and.
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  Speaker 2: They had struggled to run the football for a few years, right,
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  Speaker 2: and he had been the center of that, and that
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  Speaker 2: was not something he was just like, you know, ecstatic about,
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  Speaker 2: right he had he he took that personal. He was
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  Speaker 2: really one of the voices in that room that I
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  Speaker 2: thought stood out all the way through and consistent as
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  Speaker 2: a leader and as somebody that does things the right way,
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  Speaker 2: communicates at a high level, and when he does get
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  Speaker 2: on the field, plays his ass off and that's what
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  Speaker 2: he's done. So, you know, and obviously worked with Robert
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  Speaker 2: for the last year, really feel strongly about his leadership,
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  Speaker 2: the communication, and when he played for us this year
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  Speaker 2: against the Saints, go and watch that tape and you
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  Speaker 2: could see he.
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  Speaker 1: Was playing to prove it, right. He was playing to say, man,
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  Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is how I play.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't work out for him this year ends up
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  Speaker 2: you know, grand barr And wins the job and plays.
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  Speaker 2: But how he mentored that situation in that relationship while
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  Speaker 2: also communicating to the rest of the offense, that was really.
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  Speaker 1: Why we ended up wanting to go and do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm want to defend out help trembling center already known
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  Speaker 1: the audience.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's both those guys, as I mentioned with him
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  Speaker 2: and Luke, having a version of the system is.
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  Speaker 1: Going to help those guys, especially Trevor. But we can't
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  Speaker 1: use it as a crutch though, right.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna have to dive in, learn it at a
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  Speaker 2: high level and commit to it. But obviously having that
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  Speaker 2: relationship and that communication will help out for sure.
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  Speaker 3: You've talked about dark You've talked about the willingness to
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  Speaker 3: adapt to maybe change the scheme for the Why even
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  Speaker 3: when and where did you sort of learn that willingness
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  Speaker 3: or or the importance of that willingness and how do
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  Speaker 3: how do you see the players maybe responding.
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  Speaker 1: To the Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He's always like my dad, even like as a kid,
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  Speaker 2: they were in the wing t so we had like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different skill players right on the field
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  Speaker 2: at once. He might not be just a wide out
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  Speaker 2: right or just the tight end or just a running back.
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  Speaker 2: Was three different skill players that ultimately can do different things.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you watch that growing up and you
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  Speaker 2: see the usage of it, I ays.
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  Speaker 1: Was impressed by the misdirection.
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  Speaker 2: Of the wing tea and how everything looked the same
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  Speaker 2: but ended up different. And then I get to the
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  Speaker 2: rams and I hear the exact word of the illusion
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  Speaker 2: of complexity. Hey, same plays, but we're making them just
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  Speaker 2: look different. So it was already in my mind from
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  Speaker 2: what I saw growing up.
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  Speaker 1: And so then you're able to apply it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And especially at the college level, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to be able to adjust to the players,
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  Speaker 2: right because they're.
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  Speaker 1: Both their capacity and what they can handle physically.
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  Speaker 2: And then obviously in LA in twenty two we lose
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  Speaker 2: every olignment and have a million injuries, and we still
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  Speaker 2: had to compete, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I know, we didn't win, but we still had it.
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  Speaker 2: And so that was a fun experience, although not the
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  Speaker 2: best year in my life.
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  Speaker 3: How some players sort of like respond to that willingness
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  Speaker 3: to adapt to change all that I think.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I mean, I think every coach does try to
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  Speaker 2: do that right at some capacity.
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  Speaker 1: I think you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But I felt last year, you know that those guys
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  Speaker 2: were pretty bought in, you know, early on, right when
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  Speaker 2: just the way that maybe you introduced the system, the
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  Speaker 2: way that you incrementally put it in.
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  Speaker 1: And show them the why. I'm not just telling you
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  Speaker 1: what's black and white.
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  Speaker 2: I want them to know the why I want them
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  Speaker 2: to then ask me about the why I do. Now
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  Speaker 2: there's a certain point where hey, guys, this is the
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  Speaker 2: way where we're doing things.
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  Speaker 1: You still have to have that, but I want the inclusion.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to hear Mike Evans tell me how to
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  Speaker 2: he runs that route, so that not just me I
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  Speaker 2: can learn, but the other guys in the room can
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  Speaker 2: learn as well, and it creates better dialogue.
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  Speaker 1: What is the time? Need to a finer go faster?
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  Speaker 1: There's a man, a guy like this? You I out
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  Speaker 1: of there? Yeah, I think you know. We've talked about
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  Speaker 1: in tangibly risk, like really good.
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  Speaker 2: Football players is what we're trying to find. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's guys that truly love and live playing football right
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  Speaker 2: to that extent, right, we want them to be both
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  Speaker 2: mentally and physically tough. Those are things that are gonna
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  Speaker 2: be kind of non negotiables for us when it comes
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  Speaker 2: down to it.
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  Speaker 1: The rest man, fast, strong, long, Like.
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  Speaker 2: We're not even trying to use those adjectives or you know,
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  Speaker 2: those words in this whole deal. We're really just trying
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  Speaker 2: to say, like do we want them or not? Like
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  Speaker 2: do we want the player or not? Do we want
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  Speaker 2: to coach this player or not try to keep it
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  Speaker 2: there and then be able to get into it so
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  Speaker 2: mentally and physically tough guys that love to play that ultimately, man,
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  Speaker 2: they're they're just loving to compete, you know, coming from
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  Speaker 2: maybe some good programs that have.
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  Speaker 1: Won, that know how to do things, that do things right.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Felt like that was something in Tampa last year that
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: really helped that rookie class.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: They all came from really good programs to help them
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: get onboard pretty pretty quickly.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Players with this where are they walking into legative energy?
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: You know, that's the first thing when we're really trying
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: to place is just feel guys like this is good stuff.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: It's great to be back. We're doing football. Guys. How
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: many of us get to do this?
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: We we get an opportunity to do this every single day.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: There's so many that don't. And so how are we
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: going to approach this thing? I think they'll walk into
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: that kind of feeling and you know.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: We'll meet.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: We'll just do meetings obviously throughout phase one, introducing our
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: systems while we at the same time start to introduce
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: our culture, the way that we're going to be, the
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: way the way we're going to talk to each other,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: the way that we're going to communicate with each other,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: how we're going to treat one another. That'll go hand
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: in hand with the systems.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Can you rams overhaul their team building strategy to overhaul
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: through the draft, specifically James being the strategies when you
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: reconnected with him, How is he different.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: From what you get for? Man, it's not like that
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: was the thing. Like James and I weren't just like
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: we weren't like homies, you know, like we work together.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: He was leading always the undrafted free agent process after
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: the draft, and he's spearheaded it like he talked.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: He was the guy communicating to both the coaches and the.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Scouting department, right, that was what he did. He was
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: in charge of it and led it. And I was like, man,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: this dude's impressive.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: You know, like this isn't easy to communicate.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Bullets things are flying in that moment and he's able
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: to keep his head so cool, communicate at a high level.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: And then man, go back in twenty two and he's
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: now doing that with the draft and he's really hand
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: in hand with Less and working with Sean and those
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: guys in that process.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: That.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, Okay that that happened quickly, and man,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: his just ability to communicate with all walks of life
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: is really cool and his organizational skills have helped me
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: out tremendously.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: He turns up stuff the team and going into Shawn's environment. Yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't would you every time there? And how are
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: you trying to hear that? It's a great one. Gary.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Like I remember being in my third or fourth month
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: working for Sean and I'm just drawing. I'm a drawer, right,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just like here drawing plays, trying not to deal,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: just getting away, and uh, he comes by my office
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: one day.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: At like six pm. I'm just I'm just studying.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: It's the off season, and uh, he walks by my office,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: comes in and it's like, hey, man, just really want to.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You're doing a great job, and I appreciate you being here.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I'm really happy you're here.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And that was out and I was like, oh, okay,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you can be told you're doing a good job in
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: this sport because all the other places I'd meant and
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: how I had grown up.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you just do what you're told when
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you're told, and you don't do it because somebody said,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: good job.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: You do it just because you're a coach and you're
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: just you're a little bit more of a soldier mentality
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: that it was just a different feeling that you're like, oh, okay,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it's okay to.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Tell guys, hey, man, I love you. It's okay to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: open up and be actually a human being too.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: And so that was always the culture where you felt like, man,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: all right, I have to be at a high level
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: while i'm here, but man, I can be myself.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking about energy and when they come back.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: But what's the key just sustaining that it's not just.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: The Yeah, it's just incrementally inputting the culture. So it's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: not just man culture overload day one, when you're like
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: as a player and coach and staff, it's like, man,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that was way too much, Like this is a lot, hey,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: incrementally really just man, because it's it's culture, is how
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: we truly just are, how we talk to each other,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: how we hang out with each other, the way we
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: hold meetings and gatherings together. So it's just incrementally, let's
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: have these conversations about trying to do more of this
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: instead of this right at the end of the day,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: how do we connect closer? And you know, players, you
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: have to show them, you truly have to lay. Let's
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: show them examples of what we.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Want this to look like.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I remember Harvard did a study a few years ago
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: on the Boston Celtics and the Lakers on the power
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: of touch. You know, when you shoot a free throw
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and every single dude right you see them all dat
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: people up in the basketball world. The power touch is
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: so huge in terms of the best teams that year
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that touched the most in terms of the connection, the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: high fives, all that stuff. There's the Lakers and the Celtics,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: the best teams in the league, and so there's a
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: whole study about it. I thought was interesting because it's
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: like man, for us to actually be connected, we've got.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: To be able to high five and man, celebrate and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: have a good time together. That's what we're trying to do.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: We talked a lot about what stages sport.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Now, how would this early stage can you build what
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Trevor this early stage, how are.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: You able to build or haven't been able to build?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: The truck has some.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Really good conversations, you know, and not being able to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: work with them quite yet. But man, we had went
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: out to dinner a few times and I saw the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: vision talk to a guy that I know right off
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the bat is physically and mentally tough.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I believe that about going and so that's how I'm
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: excited to work with him about it. He's open. He
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: just wants to play at the highest level as he can.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: He just he wants to accept as much as coach.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: He wants to be coached hard, and he wants to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: do well. So those are the great conversations that he's open,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: he wants to work, and he's been willing to work.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: H really excited about those.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Is going forward. We were talking earlier about from the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: follow up year you were looking forward and it wasn't.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: Necessarily out you know, a certain physical template because one
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: of your free agency.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Does he kind of fit into that undersized he seems competitive, Yeah, I.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Mean Jordan lewis Man broke my heart last year. We're
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: going down to win and take the lead against Dallas.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Last year, we throw a kind of a post to
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan. It looks like we've got it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: We're gonna take the leader at least I at that
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: point and j Mack has.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: It, Jordan takes it out at the last minute and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: ends up being an interception for a touchback, and you're
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: just like, man, that's who he is.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: That's the way he competes. It's too and through the whistle.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Like those guys that do it like that at a
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: high level and are able to communicate as well at
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: a high level, those are the guys that we're trying
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to bring in.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: He's completely what we were looking for and really excited
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to have him.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: When you're talking about the culture and recruiting players, we're
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: a big thing is guys wanting to play for Sean.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Are there any examples you have or just that you
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: saw regents come in and say like, yeah, this is
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: the guy that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I want to play with.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you look obviously it's probably clear
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to look at Robert, you know, coming from Tampa, but
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: like just to follow up maybe and here the way
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: that he was able to communicate some of that you
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: saw maybe bleed into some of like you know with
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Patrick McCarry, some of our conversations Diamie Brown, some of
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: those conversations what we just had with Jordan Lewis, Like
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: you know, those were open and honest really quickly, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: you feel guys that did want to be a part
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of change. And ultimately that's cool where you're able to
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: have those relationships at other places with people they talk
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: like those guys talk BT talk to Mike Evans like
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: they talk. So at the end of the day, like,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that's what you want, that's gonna help you.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I want those players to go call those.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Guys in Tampa and see what they'd said. You know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: it's only gonna help out how much going off I
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: think that's you know, yes, physical is a mass and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: size issue, but it's also a mentality. It's also uh,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: the way it's coached, the way it's taught, the way
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it's pret So I'm kind of gonna hold on evaluating
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that part.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So I think we got competition in depth. Absolutely.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I think we got some good, sound, solid players that
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: are gonna help elevate that floor. But let's go wait
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: and see what it truly looks like when we actually
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: go and compete and and do things the way we're
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: gonna do.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: We added a bunch to the offense, Yeah, I think.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Old familiar looking to add some competition in there. We've
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: got some really good players down there. I think, you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: we've got three first rounders right on our defensive line currently, so, uh,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: three guys that are gonna have some good years hopefully
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: they're hoping, you know, elevate that room and we'll continue.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: To evaluate it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, absolutely you're looking to add definitely somebody
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to the dealer. However, that thing plays out inside.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Or outside.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: Conversations with Trevor and he's frustrated with his inconsistent hungry
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: Like how would you modify his mentality four.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Years in year?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think pretty mellow in a good way though,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Like it's yeah, you feel a sense of urgency from
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: him without it sounding like a panic, you know.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, he he knows. He's confident, man. He loves
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to play. He doesn't want to be hurt. He doesn't
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: want to be not in the game like that. That
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: means a lot to him.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And so when you start there and that's the floor
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: of the conversations, man, you feel so good about where
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: it's gonna go because it's honest, you can feel it
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: from him. So, uh, he's hungry though, I would say
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that for sure, he's putting in time right now on
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: his own without any sort of a he's doing it
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: on his own, maybe twice a day right now, doing
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: stuff to help him get better. I think the fans
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: should know, like that's that's this guy's work ethic, that's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the way he does things.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting better.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: He's throwing a little bit and and you know he'll
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: be able to get going in the spring and be
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: able to throw a little bit more.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But man, he's getting better and better each deck He'll.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I mean some of it's just okay,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: getting used to two plays. They did a good amount
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: of it last year, but it more in the past
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: game at times. But it's more just getting used to,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: like almost that's just being a normal rhythm and routine
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: of how we kind of operate.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's just repetition, man, It's just a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: ton of repetition.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Once you're able to visualize the formation's motions things like that,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: that's when it becomes so much easier to call it
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to where you can start to visualize it, it won't
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: happen for a little while. We had a little bit
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: of a bridge in Tampa with Dave Canalis running a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: version of this system helped that bridge.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were going in completely putting in
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: something new.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: This may be a little bit more that way, just
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: because it was a different it was a similar system, right,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: they did similar so many players with the same guys, Right,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: it's just what we call them and getting through that
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: way we kind of.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And Britain plays the game the right way. I'll say
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that for sure. I love the way he competes.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Through the whistle, right, he does it through the whistle,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: plays with an edge, He's got some.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Twitch, he's strong, he's got to get his hands on
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: in the blocking. I really appreciate it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, he'll elevate just by alone getting more reps
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and getting them on the Field's a good thing for
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and you can tell he's hungry, wants to continue to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: get better and showed some really nice things last year,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: especially after the catch, doing some nice things and break
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: and tackles and get extra yards.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: And Christian Kirk just what's the challenge there now for
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: you guys to get to that level.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Again and to move forward?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, always hard letting go of good football players. Man,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: have a ton of respect for both of those guys.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: You know, I'd done some really good things here that
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: those were not easy decisions and ultimately hate to let
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: go of good football players. But you know, production right,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: those guys did have a good amount of targets, receptions,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: you know, some critical plays in different moments of different years.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So there's some chemistry, some camaraderie there. I'm sure that
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: we have to, you know, continue to work on.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: But I think you saw what BT and Trevor were
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: able to do last year, and then obviously with some
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: of the guys in Parker Washington had a great connection
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: and you start to.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: See some of these guys evolve.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: We're like, okay, you know, this allows us to do
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: some different things within our roster structure and feel confident
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: about where it's going moving forward.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: And minutes their coach Thompson drug free Agency, you all
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: picked up. So what you see in me and with
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: kind of leg you.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you look at somebody that's able to
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: attack the field at all three levels. He can go
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: down the field on the post and the go and
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the pylons and be the top shelf. But also you
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: can throw him a screen and you can go and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: do something with him, right, Like I can't coach that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I can't coach you to go and make three people
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: miss after you've caught the ball. We could try I'll
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: teach the synops of the porch and open field, running, sideline,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: stiff arm. But at the end of the day, we're
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: getting the play, so you can go beat you with
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the ball in your hands. And that's what he can do,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: hopefully be able to help us at all three levels.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And he's hungry. You know, he's coming off of a
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: successful end of the year. He wants to continue to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: do that. And uh, you know that's been what's been
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: fun about having those conversations with him. Coach.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: Usually your wife and your sons are getting settled in
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: the Jacksonville area. What are some of the tourist attracts
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: from the restaurants or fun things to do that you've discovered.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean we've gone out to plant of these
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: a number of times out there.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I went to V's Pizza a few times. My son
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Pepperoni and cheese feets is his favorite, So we're there
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a few times. I have been there already a number
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of times. But it's been it's cool to just get around.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: You can tell you can feel people do love football
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: in the area. You know, you can feel that, like
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: going out to go get breakfast, going out to you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: get coffee, Like you can feel people and that's really cool, right,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Like ultimately I love like I'm passionate about football and
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: if you are too, that's cool with me and I
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: appreciate that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So I have really enjoyed our time so far. Kids
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: aren't my son, Jackson's in school, and and it's going
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: well to maybe each tray.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Off.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I mean there are any conference.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Studios, Yeah, We're have an opening conversations and at the
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: end of the day we'll we'll continue to have those
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and you know, James and TONI and I will have
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: those conversations as we go for sure.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: You.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Got you got.
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I've had some conversations with Trey, like sounds like he
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: you know, We've had a number of hour long conversations where, man,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I feel a guy that wants to go be great,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: you know that that wants to continue to take the
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: next step and dominate.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I could feel that from him.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a guy that just wants to work, does
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: things the right way. So I'm excited about working with him.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Man, He's He's really been pleasant to talk to him.