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Dragnet: The Big Casing (EP4758) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: Well now from May the third, nineteen fifty one, It's
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  Speaker 1: the Big Casey.
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  Speaker 2: The story you are about to hear is true, only
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  Speaker 2: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
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  Speaker 2: a detective sergeant. You're assigned a homicide detail. You go
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  Speaker 2: to an apartment house and answer to her shooting and
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  Speaker 2: dead body call. Her husband tells you it's suicide. The
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  Speaker 2: facts show.
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  Speaker 3: It to be murder.
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  Speaker 4: Your job find out.
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  Speaker 5: Drag Man, the documented drama of an actual crime. While
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  Speaker 5: the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles
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  Speaker 5: Police Department, you will travel step by step on the
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  Speaker 5: side of the law through an actual case transcribed from
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  Speaker 5: official police violence, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.
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  Speaker 5: Drag Net is the story of your police force in action.
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  Speaker 6: It was Sunday, March ninth, was Wendy in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 6: We were working the day watch out of homicide detail.
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  Speaker 6: My partner's Ben Romero, the boss's that brown cheap of detectives.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Friday.
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  Speaker 6: Was four thirty five pm when we got to the
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  Speaker 6: first floor of the Kelsey Apartment Hotel, Apartment one twelve.
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  Speaker 3: Hi Joe Ben, Hi, Hey, how are you? What have
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  Speaker 3: you got here?
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  Speaker 7: The woman's dead shot to the right temper with a
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  Speaker 7: forty five automatic husband claims a suicide. What's the name, mister, missus?
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  Speaker 7: Andrew Robertson. My wife's name was Marie. That's mister Robertson
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  Speaker 7: right over here.
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  Speaker 3: There's a crime. I've been called how about ten minutes ago? Fine,
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  Speaker 3: mister Robertson. This is Sergeant Romero, Sergeant Friday. How do
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  Speaker 3: you do? How you have you? Questioned mister Robertson.
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  Speaker 8: No, not yet, mister Robertson, do you want to tell
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  Speaker 8: us what happened here?
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  Speaker 9: I had just gotten back from the corner grocery store.
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  Speaker 9: My wife and I had a little argument going. It
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  Speaker 9: started before I left for this door, and it was
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  Speaker 9: still on when I got back. I see she was
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  Speaker 9: fixing chicken fried steaks for dinner, putting a flour on him.
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  Speaker 9: We had a few more words, and I went over
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  Speaker 9: and sat on the devonport right where I am now.
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  Speaker 3: She was standing there in the doorway to the kitchen.
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  Speaker 9: She said something that set me off, and I guess
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  Speaker 9: I got pretty mad and said a few things. And
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  Speaker 9: she went back over that little night stand there by
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  Speaker 9: the door to the kitchen. That one right there, Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: that's it. That's where I keep my army automatic. She
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  Speaker 9: pulled it out of the drawer and backed up into
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  Speaker 9: the kitchen. She put the gun to her head and
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  Speaker 9: said this will put an end to the argument once
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  Speaker 9: and for all. I yelled at her and tried to
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  Speaker 9: stop her, but I was too late. She pulled the
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  Speaker 9: trigger and fell right.
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  Speaker 3: There where she is. What'd you do?
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  Speaker 4: Then?
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  Speaker 9: I went upstairs to Ted Carlton's place. He lives in
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  Speaker 9: two twelve, right above us. We don't have a phone here.
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  Speaker 9: I asked him to call the police and send for
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  Speaker 9: an ambulance.
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  Speaker 3: Did you go over to see how badly your wife
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  Speaker 3: was shot?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I forgot to tell you. The minute she fired, I
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  Speaker 3: rushed right over to her, but I was too late.
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  Speaker 4: She was dead.
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  Speaker 10: Now did you touch anything in here? Move anything at all?
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  Speaker 9: No, they're not a thing. I've been sitting here ever
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  Speaker 9: since I got back down from Ted's room.
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  Speaker 3: Upstairs. I see Joe.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, empty cartridge casing here on the floor. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 8: Jones gets here, we'll measure the distance.
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  Speaker 10: Just a minute. We can put this saucer over till
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  Speaker 10: the crime lab gets here.
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  Speaker 3: Hiley, all right, crime labs there fridday. The joon will
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  Speaker 3: highly Oh Joe Manley free mind?
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  Speaker 6: Would you mind taking mister Robertson downtown. We'll be right
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  Speaker 6: down since you finish up here. All right, you see
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  Speaker 6: you later.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks a lot.
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  Speaker 10: Hereing, let's go.
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  Speaker 8: All that we got here, shot through the right temple?
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  Speaker 8: Husband clamed suicide. What's under the saucer?
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  Speaker 3: Empty casing?
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  Speaker 8: Looks like she was flowering meat? Huh, that's what the
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  Speaker 8: husband says.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's probably what that is in the barrel of
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  Speaker 11: the automatic there.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we noticed that waste baskets shore full, isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: I like temple forty five automatic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: If she shot herself in the kitchen, how do you
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  Speaker 8: figure the empty case and got out there in the
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  Speaker 8: living room position of the body doesn't want then that'll
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  Speaker 8: be get miguel a photographer?
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  Speaker 3: Ada, I add, well, what do you want to shoot?
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  Speaker 8: Well, don't you get an overall of the room first
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  Speaker 8: and grab one in the kitchen there?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 8: Way do I get that saucer off the casing?
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  Speaker 3: End?
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  Speaker 10: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Right now?
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  Speaker 12: You want to move over there loft.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, thanks, all right, you want the kitchen.
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  Speaker 8: Right from where you are on. Now it's good. We
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  Speaker 8: can get out of your way here.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, this is fine.
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  Speaker 10: M m.
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  Speaker 8: Now right over the body, let me get that chattis
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  Speaker 8: down to here.
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  Speaker 12: You are that much room to work with me.
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  Speaker 3: Can you get it all in there?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 8: Use the waste basket as your outside line here in
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  Speaker 8: kitchen sink on the other side. You can't get the
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  Speaker 8: sink in when you send up for the waste basket
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  Speaker 8: only fine, Just use that as your right hand side line.
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  Speaker 3: H m m. Okay.
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  Speaker 10: So why do you Fellas finished up in here? We're
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  Speaker 10: gonna rou upstairs in that way?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Joe moment, where do you want to go? First?
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  Speaker 3: Do twelve? And that's this Ted Carlton Robertson mentioned in it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, the Fellaws was supposed to have called in for him.
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  Speaker 10: All right, you know here it is right the headstairs.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, police officers you, mister Calton, Yes, that's right. Comment.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much. This is an awful thing, isn't it.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, sir, we understand that you're a friend of the Robertsons.
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  Speaker 3: Yes I am. Have you found out anything. Yet you
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  Speaker 3: think Andy killed her? We don't know. We haven't completed
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  Speaker 3: that investigation.
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  Speaker 13: Oh, I see, I'll bet that's the way it was.
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  Speaker 13: I hate to say that, but from all indications, it
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  Speaker 13: certainly looks that way. How do you mean the argument
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  Speaker 13: is shouting and then that single shot. I don't know,
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  Speaker 13: but it sure struck me that Andy did it?
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  Speaker 3: When did the arguments? Was it prolonged? You know? What
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  Speaker 3: do you mean when it's stuck? What time? You know?
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  Speaker 13: This one today started about three thirty when Andy got
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  Speaker 13: back from the Star. But they've been arguing ever since
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  Speaker 13: I've known them.
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  Speaker 3: How long have you known them?
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  Speaker 13: About two years? Those two never should have gotten married
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  Speaker 13: to begin with.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm any judge, are you marry No, sir, I'm not.
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  Speaker 6: What if you could tell us, did missus Robertson never
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  Speaker 6: say anything that would lead you to believe that she
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  Speaker 6: was in fear of her life?
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  Speaker 4: Well, yes she did.
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  Speaker 13: One time Andy stalked out of the apartment down there
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  Speaker 13: and Marie came up here.
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  Speaker 3: To see me.
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  Speaker 13: She was in tears, all broken up about it. As
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  Speaker 13: usual during these spats, she said, I'll try to remember
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  Speaker 13: exactly how she put it. She said, Andy gets so
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  Speaker 13: mad sometimes I think he's going to kill me.
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  Speaker 3: What did they usually argue about, you know, all different things.
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  Speaker 13: This particular time that I was telling you about, I
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  Speaker 13: think it was over his being late for dinner.
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  Speaker 10: Aside from this one instance. Is there anything else that
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  Speaker 10: you can tell us?
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  Speaker 13: Well, Andy has a terrible temper that I know. We
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  Speaker 13: used to go out and bowl once in a while, Marie,
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  Speaker 13: Andy and myself to stop every time he'd missed a spare.
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  Speaker 13: You'd think it was the end of the world.
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  Speaker 8: Would he usually seem to take it out of his wife.
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  Speaker 13: Most of the time, Yeah, although I must say I
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  Speaker 13: caught it a few times myself. Abusive language. She really
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  Speaker 13: carried on over nothing at all.
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  Speaker 8: Did Robertson leave his wife home alone much of the time.
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  Speaker 3: No, not any more than usual.
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  Speaker 8: Seems like he always wanted to get home just so
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  Speaker 8: they could argue.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody in the apartment house knows about him.
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  Speaker 8: So you said that, missus Robertson came up here after
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  Speaker 8: that one particular argument.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Well does he come up here often?
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  Speaker 13: No, not very often, just when she was unusually upset
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  Speaker 13: and her nerved her on edge. But only then when
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  Speaker 13: Andy had rushed out in my head.
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  Speaker 8: Well, do you know whether or not Robertson Owen's a gun?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: I believe he does.
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  Speaker 13: As a matter of fact, I know he does. One night,
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  Speaker 13: we're having trouble with prowlers and he came up here
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  Speaker 13: with his automatic. Later on, I think I asked him
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  Speaker 13: where he got the gun? He said, from the army.
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  Speaker 13: Is there anything else you can add, mister Cardan, I
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  Speaker 13: was one.
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  Speaker 3: Who call the police. Do that? That's what we understand.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't Andy tell you?
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  Speaker 13: He came up here right after the shot and asked
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  Speaker 13: me to call the police for him. They don't have
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  Speaker 13: well exactly how to de tell you?
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean? Well?
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  Speaker 8: What were his exact words? Can you remember them?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 13: He said, my wife's shot, called the police and get
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  Speaker 13: an ambulance quick.
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  Speaker 10: And what was your reaction to this?
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  Speaker 13: I'd heard the shot, so I wasn't too surprised. But
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  Speaker 13: when Andy came running up here, I knew before he
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  Speaker 13: said a word, you could tell just to look at him,
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  Speaker 13: you could tell what something was wrong. I had a
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  Speaker 13: hunch all along that this might happen someday. What's that
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  Speaker 13: that Andy and Kelly's wife.
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  Speaker 6: Ben and I continued questioning the various neighbors in the
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  Speaker 6: apartment building. Their stories all matched in every detail. The
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  Speaker 6: Robertsons had been known to.
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  Speaker 8: Argue quite frequently and quite loud.
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  Speaker 6: None of the neighbors could definitely say that they had
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  Speaker 6: ever heard Andrew Robertson threaten his wife.
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  Speaker 3: All of them volunteered it would be entirely possible. We
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  Speaker 3: put in a call to R and I.
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  Speaker 6: We found that there was no previous record on Andrew
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  Speaker 6: Robertson nor his wife Marie. Before Lee Jones had finished
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  Speaker 6: his investigation, Layton fingerprint men had arrived and the men
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  Speaker 6: from the Coroner's office were standing by for removal of
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  Speaker 6: the body. We canvassed the neighborhood and checked with the
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  Speaker 6: various merchants in the area. They could shed no further
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  Speaker 6: light on the death of Marie Robertson. The coroner removed
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  Speaker 6: the body from Apartment one twelve, and Lee Jones continued
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  Speaker 6: with his investigation.
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  Speaker 3: Ben and I returned downtown for further interrogation of the suspect.
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  Speaker 3: Everything I've told you was the truth.
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  Speaker 8: Would you mind going over just once more?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 9: We had our cause and arguments, and I guess some
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  Speaker 9: of them were pretty bad.
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  Speaker 3: But I'd never do a thing like this to Marie.
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  Speaker 8: Where you don't seem very upset about all this.
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  Speaker 9: Robinson, I'm not crying, if that's what you mean. I'm
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  Speaker 9: sorry she had to do it. Tried to stop her,
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  Speaker 9: but there was nothing I could do.
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  Speaker 8: Where you seem to be taking all this pretty well
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  Speaker 8: under the circumstances.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know if I can explain how I feel
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  Speaker 9: about it. You see, Marie and I want too happy
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  Speaker 9: the past couple of years. We've been married eight years,
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  Speaker 9: and I guess from the start we never could hit
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  Speaker 9: it off. Did you used to argue quite a bit? No,
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  Speaker 9: at first, we didn't. Just seem that we've drifted apart.
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  Speaker 9: The last couple of years seemed to fight all the
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  Speaker 9: time over nothing at all. I honestly believe.
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  Speaker 3: We fell out of love.
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  Speaker 8: But would you mind telling us again exactly what happened
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  Speaker 8: this afternoon?
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  Speaker 9: First of all, I got up. I always liked to
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  Speaker 9: sleep on Sundays. She asked me to go to the store.
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  Speaker 9: That started the argument. She knows I don't like to
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  Speaker 9: go shopping, but it seemed like she was always forgetting
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  Speaker 9: something and i'd have to go. When I got back
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  Speaker 9: from the store. She was making chicken fried steaks for dinner.
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  Speaker 9: She was putting a flour on the meat. We argued
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  Speaker 9: back and forth for a minute, and then she stepped
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  Speaker 9: into the living room. I went over and sat on
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  Speaker 9: the davenport. Oh my god, we had a few more boys.
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  Speaker 9: And she went over to the small night stand by
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  Speaker 9: the kitchen door and took out my army automatic that
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  Speaker 9: I kept in there. She backed up into the kitchen
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  Speaker 9: and pointed the gun at her head. Here she said,
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  Speaker 9: this will end the argument once and for all.
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  Speaker 3: So I said.
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  Speaker 9: I was on the davenport about twelve feet away from her.
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  Speaker 3: I yelled at her, what did you say? Said Marie,
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  Speaker 3: put that gun down, it's loaded. Before I could reach her,
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  Speaker 3: she pulled the trigger. Then what'd you do? I rushed
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  Speaker 3: over to her, but it was too late. She was dead.
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  Speaker 3: What happened? Then?
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  Speaker 9: We don't have a phone, So I rushed upstairs at
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  Speaker 9: the apartment right over us ted Calvin's. I asked him
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  Speaker 9: to phone for the police in the ambulance.
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  Speaker 3: Did you tell Carlton about your wife? Yes? I did.
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  Speaker 3: I told him she'd been shot. Then where'd you go? So,
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  Speaker 3: just like I told you, the apartment. I went back
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  Speaker 3: downstairs and waited in the living room for you people
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  Speaker 3: to get there. Did you go near your wife's Boddy, No,
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  Speaker 3: I did not.
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  Speaker 10: Did you always keep that gun loaded?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: I did.
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  Speaker 9: I always kept it loaded and actuated the shell in
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  Speaker 9: the chamber, but I kept the safety lock on. Ree
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  Speaker 9: knew how to operate the gun because I showed her
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  Speaker 9: for when I was out late. She wasn't strong enough
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  Speaker 9: to actuate it, but she could work the safety.
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  Speaker 8: Did your wife ever try to commit suicide before?
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  Speaker 3: Not to my knowledge.
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  Speaker 10: Well, mister Robertson, you sure that everything you've told.
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  Speaker 3: Us is the truth? It's see sort your truth, every
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  Speaker 3: word of it.
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  Speaker 10: Well, sir, here's the way it looks to us. We
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  Speaker 10: think you killed your wife.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't.
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  Speaker 8: I just lay out a few things for you. We
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  Speaker 8: talked to your friends and neighbors in your apartment house.
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  Speaker 8: We have people who are testified to the fact that
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  Speaker 8: your wife was afraid that you might kill him.
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  Speaker 3: If he told one man.
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  Speaker 9: Then it isn't true. I don't know what you may
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  Speaker 9: have told somebody, but I didn't kill her.
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  Speaker 8: So know, in fact, throughout the entire apartment building that
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  Speaker 8: you and your wife had violent quarrels. The kind of
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  Speaker 8: argument from on reports, it could easily lead to something
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  Speaker 8: like that.
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  Speaker 3: I told you, we argued, But I didn't kill Murray.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't do a thing like that.
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  Speaker 10: Mister Robertson.
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  Speaker 8: We've made a preliminary investigation of your apartment.
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  Speaker 6: You say your wife killed herself. Let me show you
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  Speaker 6: some of the flaws in your story here.
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  Speaker 3: All I can say is what I've told you is
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  Speaker 3: the truth. I didn't kill her.
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  Speaker 6: Now, you told us that your wife went to the
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  Speaker 6: night standing and got the gun.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. How did she pick up the automatic? What
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  Speaker 3: do you mean?
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  Speaker 9: Well, how'd she take it from the drawer like anyone
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  Speaker 9: would pick up a gun by the butt?
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  Speaker 3: She picked it up like anybody would. It was going
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  Speaker 3: to you did, and you're sure about that? Positive?
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  Speaker 10: She didn't touch anything but the butt.
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  Speaker 3: Well, she had part of her hand on the trigger.
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  Speaker 8: We know that, But she didn't touch any other part
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  Speaker 8: of the weapon.
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  Speaker 3: She did not. You didn't have time we then, how
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  Speaker 3: do you account.
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  Speaker 8: For the fact that we found traces of flower on
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  Speaker 8: the barrel of the gun?
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Oh sure she was flowering me? Well, how'd the flower
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: get on the barrel? I don't know. Well.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: Wasn't it true that when you approached her where the
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: automatic pointed at her, she tried to ward off the shot.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: With her hand. Isn't that how the flower got on
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: that barrel? That isn't true.
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: Now you said your wife was putting flour on some steaks.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: That's right. How do you account for the fact.
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: That we didn't find any flower on the butt of
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: the gun we'd belonged, or on the drawer of the
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: knight stand where you say she first picked up the automatic.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I can't answer that. I don't know what all this means.
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: It means that unless you've got some kind of explanation,
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: we have to assume that you're lying that you killed
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: your wife.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to explain all these things, but
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I didn't kill her.
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: Mister Robertson, you say you were an army man. Isn't
• 16:57
  Speaker 8: that what you told us how to your apartment?
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, I was a sergeant than the army during the
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: last war. What outfit were you in? I was an
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: instructor in side arm weapons or sat an Army air base.
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: Then you'd be somewhat of an authority on the Colt
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: forty five caliber automatic pistol, wasn't it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I guess I would. Yeah, that was one of the
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: weapons I instructed.
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: In you'd know all about the system of ejection employed
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: by the coke coming on there forty five.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Automatic, Yes, I would. The empty casing ejects to the right,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: up and back. Is that correct? Yes? Right.
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: In other words, if you were pointing a forty five
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: at me and you pulled the trigger, the empty casing
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: would eject to your right up and fall on the
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: floor to the rear on your right side.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: A right, Yeah, that's what it would end up.
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: You still maintained that your wife shot herself, Yes, I do.
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: Where was she standing when she.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Pulled the trigger? Because I told her before? In the kitchen?
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: How was she standing? What do you mean?
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: Which way was she facing? Let's see, facing me? That's
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: right in the kitchen, with her back to the sink,
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: facing out toward me. And where were you on the
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: devenport in the living room facing huh?
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  Speaker 3: No?
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: Bearing in mind what we've already discussed and agreed upon
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: concerning the ejection system of forty five, how do you
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: account for the fact that the empty casing was found
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: in the living room six feet and four inches from
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: the kitchen.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Let's see, I'll figure it for you.
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: The empty casing should have been fun on the floor
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: of the kitchen, somewhere to the right and rear of
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: your wife.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Isn't that about him?
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: I don't understand. Why are you trying to prove me guilty.
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: I've told you, and I swear to you, I didn't
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: kill my wife.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Well, it'd be a physical impossibility for that emptication to
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: have landed anywhere but in the kitchen. If your wife
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: had pulled the trigger that automatic, how about that?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: What can I say? Please believe what I'm telling you.
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: I didn't do it, not according to the evidence.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I don't understand any of this.
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: Well, here's the way we've got it reconstructed. You had
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: a quarrel, you got the gun. You met your wife
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: at the doorway to the kitchen.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: You pointed the gun at her.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: She tried to ward it off with her left hand,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: leaving flower on the barrel of the gun. You fired,
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: and the casing was thrown up and back to the right,
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: where it landed on the rug of the living room.
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: The testimony of the neighbors, the flower on your wife's hand,
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: the position of the empty case, Robertson your.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: D I don't know why all these things are the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: way you say they are.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: We do.
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: We don't believe your wife committed suicide.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: You think about it? Come on, Ben, Yeah, Well what.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: Do you think evidence we've got so far has got
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: him ten Yeah? With all that proof, he still refuses
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: to cop out something doesn't jad.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe we can find out why.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: You are listening to drag net.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: We had Gene Bechtel take Andrew Robertson's statement. We had
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: his testimony that his wife had committed suicide, a fact
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: that he couldn't prove and that we could disprove. We
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: had before us the final investigation, All evidence was taken
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: to the crime lab for analysis, but photographs taken at
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: the scene were developed and brought in for careful checking in.
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: Accordance with Robertson's story.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: Both he and his deceased wife were given paraffine tests
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: to determine the presence of night trates. Both of them
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: were finger printed and latent Prince Details started to check
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: them out. Two teams of men were sent out to
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: talk with the close relatives of the two people. Sunday,
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: March ninth, seven p m. We got a call from
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Lieutenant Lee Jones that he had the final results of
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: his investigation.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: We went over to the second floor of the Central
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Station Crime Lab.
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: Got a couple of things for you. Okay, how'd you
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: make out with Robertson?
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: Well, he insisted it was suicide. What's your idea on it?
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: And let me show you what we've got all right? Yeah,
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: look at this.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I'm picture of the forty five casing.
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: That's why I take a close look at it right
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: here in particular. Yeah, you notice this one edge is
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: a little crimped here.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Ejector marks.
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: No, here are your ejector marks up here? See this
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: crimping is something entirely different.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: You remember where you found this case? Six feet four
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: inches into the living room, That's right, And we wondered
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: how it could have been thrown that far by the ejector.
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: If the husband's story is true, the ejector didn't do that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: I wanted too. On close inspection, I noticed this crimping.
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: Let me show you how this casing got out there
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: in the living room. Here's an identical forty five caliber
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: called empty casey.
• 21:38
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, place it here on the floor on a
• 21:40
  Speaker 11: piece of carpeting. The same thickness that was in their kitchen. LINOLEA,
• 21:45
  Speaker 11: I'll watch this, I'll step on it, hitting it from
• 21:48
  Speaker 11: an angle. There's your answer to that. When the husband
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: ran over to his wife's side, but he say he did.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: He answer about the size of it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: He stepped on the case, seeing accidentally and certainly not
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: caring about it at that moment, bounced out in the
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: living room just like a tiddley wing had. Notice the
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: casing now the crimping. Check it against the photo. Yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: looks exactly the same way it matches. Then the flower
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: and the barrel of the gun. It was flower, by
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: the way, Did it figure in for your colored Well.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we figured the wife was trying to ward off
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: the gun.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: When he pointed it at it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: Certainly in the logical deduction. Let me show you how
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: it really got on there hands.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: That shot of the.
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: Kitchen out there, Notice the waste basket here, pretty full.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Isn't it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we noticed that when we're out there. What you
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: probably didn't know this is their Here's a blow up
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: of just that section where the waste basket was. Can
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: you see what's on the top of the stuff in
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: the basket pack?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Hold over here a little might soon. Yeah, it
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: looks like a flower sack.
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: That's find an empty flower sack. Now figuring the position
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: of the body in relation to that wastebasket. When she dropped,
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: the gun fell from her hand, striking the wastebasket, bouncing
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: off and landing on the floor where you found it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: And you said when she dropped the gun you figured
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: it was suicide.
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: It's beginning to shape up that way.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: There was no flower found on the butt of the gun.
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: That part of the automatic didn't come in contact.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: With the flower sack.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at least she was flowering meat.
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: There were no traces of it on her right hand,
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: on the palm, just on the back and checking the clothing,
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: we found streaks of flour where she could have wiped
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: her hands clean before picking up the gun.
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and out there we could only see the backs
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: of her hand the corner checked that through.
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: What doesn't look like a killer.
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: And there's more here. As you know, we ran paraffin
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: tests on both the victim and Robinson. Yeah, here's the
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: results of the test. See Andrew robertson no nitrates negative,
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: Marie robertson evidence of nitrates positive. She fired a gun,
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: he didn't and that's it. There's something else. Here's the
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: report from Layton Prince smudgers one good thumbprint right hand
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: belonging to Marie Robertson, indicating she was the last one
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: to handle the weapon.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Well, that's about edla.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: No, that's more fare.
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: Now, this shot was taken facing the east wall of
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: the kitchen. That's the wall that would be on anyone's
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: left sitting on the davenport in the front room. Wouldn't
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: be possible to see that wall from the davenport, wouldn't
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: that right? You can see the white X where we
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: located the slut relative to the position of the body.
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: If she was standing holding the gun at approximately a
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: right angle with the side of her head, the bullet
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: would come to rest approximately four inches below the.
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: Crown of her head.
• 24:49
  Speaker 11: Does a check out the corner says she was five
• 24:52
  Speaker 11: to four. The bullet was found at a height of
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: five and one eighth proving that she shot herself rather
• 24:59
  Speaker 11: than anyone else do judging from the inclination of the bullet,
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: as you know, this is critical.
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, from what it's worth.
• 25:07
  Speaker 11: The condition of the wound indicates that it was inflicted
• 25:10
  Speaker 11: from extreme close range fair point when you consider that
• 25:14
  Speaker 11: most people wouldn't submit to being shot from close range
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: without a struggle or unless taken by surprise.
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: And from all reports we know she wasn't taking nice spend. Yeah,
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: that's a fella, that's all I have, thanksfully, it's sure enough.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Crime lab Jones. Yeah right here, just a minute, read
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: the one of you.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Rightly, I'll get it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Thank ridy.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Oh hi, Harry, he did have what's that? Yeah? Do
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: you have a letter with you? Yeah? Yeah, right Harry,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: Bye, Harry Freemant just left. Marie Robe person's mother.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: What do you have to say? Well, three much? Say
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: she gave him a letter. He's on his way in
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: with it now.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Was written by Marie Robertson says something about taking her
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: own life. Her mother says that the husband couldn't have
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: done it, says the daughter's shown indication in the past
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: of wanting.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: To take her own life, right, not about sayings.
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: It makes a few kind of grow a dozen. Yeah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 11: find a man clear a charge instead of having to
• 26:21
  Speaker 11: hang him up. Come on, Ben, right, well you head
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: back cross the street where till I get my coat.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I'll go with you.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: What for I want to say? Him too.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: When you're talent, the story you've just heard.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Was true, only the names were changed to protect the innocent.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: On March twelfth, the hearing was held in the office
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: of the Coroner, City and County of Los Angeles, State
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: of California. In a moment the results of that hearing,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Andrew William Robertson was immediate released from custody. A five
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: to ten form was made out exonerating him from any
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: complicity in the death.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Of his wife. Ladies and gentlemen. Mister James M.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Fox, President of the Southern California Chapter of the Mystery
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Writers of America.
• 27:15
  Speaker 14: The Edgar Allan Poe Awards of the Mystery Writers of
• 27:18
  Speaker 14: America are made each year for outstanding contributions in the
• 27:21
  Speaker 14: field of mystery. This year, by a nationwide vote of
• 27:25
  Speaker 14: three hundred professional mystery writers, the Radio Award goes to
• 27:28
  Speaker 14: Dragnet for consistent excellence in the use of the medium
• 27:32
  Speaker 14: in the best traditions of our craft. The Mystery Writers
• 27:35
  Speaker 14: of America are happy to present their Edgars statuettes of
• 27:38
  Speaker 14: Poe to Dragnet's Jim Moser, who writes the scripts, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 14: a duplicate statuette to Dragnet. Congratulations, mister Moser, Thank you,
• 27:46
  Speaker 14: mister Fox.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: You have just heard dragnet s authentic cases from official payofs.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Los Angeles Police Department.
• 28:12
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• 28:23
  Speaker 15: Welcome back to me.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: This episode has always been one that highlighted our hero's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: humanity and the fallibility of police officers. It's a case
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: where Joe Friday and men Ri Merrow got ahead of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the actual evidence and a appropriate interpretation of it in
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a haste to close what looked like an open and
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: shut case, probably influenced by so many cases where people
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: lied to them and so many instances where the husband
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: did it. Even the narrator was in on it, saying
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the facts indicated that a murder had been That was
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a bit off. They didn't really understand the facts or
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: wait for them to be analyzed, or wait for all
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the facts. In the case of the testimony of the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: mother in law, I mean Friday used a word like
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: impossible for where the shellcasing ended up that a lot
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of people could have supposed and come up with a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: plausible explanation, which of course wouldn't have been evidence. But
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: it's hard to say, ah, that's impossible. Of Course, trained
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: police officers have experience and they can read a scene,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and they also have instinct that has been honed by
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that experience, but that's not a substitute for the work
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: of the forensic scientists, and this episode brought that point home.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And Herb Butterfield, I think, you know, we hear him
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: play a lot of roles in this series, but he
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: is really good as Lee Jones in professionally bringing home
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the evidence and explaining the science and showing what really
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: happened and how the inconsistencies they saw were explained. To
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: be fair, some of their analysis may have been thrown
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: off by the oddities of the space. It occurred in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: a small apartment where movement was probably a challenge, but
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Jones gets to the bottom of it. And I like
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: when Ben got to the point of saying, Okay, I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: guess I guess you proved we were wrong, and Lisa said, effectively,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: wait here are some more reasons you were wrong. Of course,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: in a professional setting it should never be about ego,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and certainly not when it comes to law enforcement. It
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: should be about getting it right and being sure that
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: justice is done, and they pretty much are with him
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and being glad the truth came out, even if it
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: showed that they made a mistake. I have a comment
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: from Daniel who emails in and said, and this is
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: regarding The Big Saint. I started playing this week's episode
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: of Ragnet The Big Saint and was surprised that it
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: was the same basic plot as an Ironside TV episode
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I'd watched only a few hours earlier. Season one episode twelve,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a very cool howked car updated a bed sixties versus fifties,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but it was even a Cadillac that was used to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: catch them. Of course, Ironside took more liberties with the drama,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: but it was clearly as inspired by Dragnet or the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: actual events that Dragnet was based on. Well, Daniel, thank
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you so much for letting me know, and I will
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: try to get to watch that episode of Ironside. Unfortunately,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: all of my extra TV viewing at this point is
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: taken up by Get Smart. I'm trying to announce the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: newsletter kind of got pushed back because of events in
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the family, but we are trying to get that first
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: issue out and for that first issue, I'm watching all
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of the episodes from season one of Get Smart. But
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: would you believe I only have two episodes left? Okay?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Would you believe? Would you believe? Ten? Okay? How about twenty?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Not quite that many. But as soon as I give
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: some free extra TV watching time, I'll check that out.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: And I am looking for more reasons to watch episodes
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: of Ironside and Kojak and all those good things that
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: have been posted over on Amazon Prime recently. And then
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: over on the side called X, Bernard writes, Hi, have
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you seen any copies of the new Dragnet TV series ever?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Plays Adam. This is the eighty nine to ninety version
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: fifty two TV episodes, and the answer is yes, I did.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I did not see it when it was originally on
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the air. My dad was not someone who would let
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: nine or ten year old watch modern crime drama. And
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I can appreciate that. One of the early forgotten TV
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: streaming services was called into TV. It was an AD
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: supported service that was started by Tom Warner and AOL
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and it launched in two thousand and five. It came
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: out onto AOL in two thousand and six, but anyone
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: could watch it, and they had some TV shows on there,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and at this point I believe that the original Dragnet
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: and Adam twelve were being licensed at least when I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: watched them on Into TV, which I think really kind
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: of wound down towards the end of the two thousands,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: but they were on either Hulu or Netflix one. So
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Into TV got the rights to a lot of shows
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that were a bit rarer and more off the beaten path,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and among them were The New Dragnet and the New
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Adam twelve. And I watched quite a few episodes of
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the New Dragnet, a few of the New Adam twelve,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and overall I actually enjoyed the New Dragnet. I don't
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: think it was great, but it was a pretty good series.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: You had two pretty solid lead actors. You had Jeff
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Austerhage as a sergeant Vic Daniels and Bernard White as
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: his partner Karl Molina. And the cases pretty much followed
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Dragnet formula, and in terms of the crimes and the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: way they portrayed the investigatation work very true to the original.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, but I can see why it didn't
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  Speaker 1: make it, and it had really two problems.
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  Speaker 3: Going for it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: It was too much like the original Dragnet, and it
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: was not enough like the original Dragnet. On one hand,
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  Speaker 1: it was so much like Dragnet in terms of formula
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  Speaker 1: and approached a case, and even being a half hour
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  Speaker 1: in length. In many ways television had moved on in
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  Speaker 1: police shows. A half hour crime drama in the late
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighties was a bit unusual, I mean, and it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't bother me because I love them, and I grew
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  Speaker 1: up on a lot of half hour traumas in the
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  Speaker 1: eighties and early nineties, like Rin ten ten, Canine Kopp
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  Speaker 1: or My Secret Identity or the super Boy series. I
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  Speaker 1: have fond memories of chiefly made syndication, and so some
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  Speaker 1: of the issues didn't in that regard didn't bother me.
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  Speaker 1: On the other hand, you just have the lack of
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  Speaker 1: Jack Webb, and I think that is huge for Dragnet.
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  Speaker 1: You can't really overstate how important Jack Webb and Joe
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  Speaker 1: Friday are to the series as a whole. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I think that the actors in there did a really
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  Speaker 1: good job. That's part of the reason why I enjoyed
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: it a lot more than the New Adam twelve, where
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the leads were a bit more spotty. Ohst Age had
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a decent career in the seventies and eighties. He was
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: in the Sackets, among other things, and Bernard White is
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: still active. He was even in the Marvel Cinematic universe.
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  Speaker 1: But one of them were Jack Webb, and they didn't
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  Speaker 1: quite have that combination. They did make believable every man cops,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: but neither one of them was Jack Webb, and the
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  Speaker 1: music they could not. They didn't get the iconic Dragnet music.
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  Speaker 1: They went with more of a kind of a typical
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: jazzy eighties theme. And it's not bad, but it's kind
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of forgettable. But I liked it fine. It's just not
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: been legally available anywhere for at least the last fifteen
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: years plus. I did see someone posting an online forum
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that there are ways to get it illegally, and while
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed Knew Dragon, I could not imagine anyone taking
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the risk involved with getting illegal content to watch it.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: There are some clips you can find on line, and
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I think certainly the opening sequence. But yeah, it's a
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: series that got unfortunately memory hold. But it's worthwhile if
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you're a big Dragnet fan and want more. Now, if
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: you want more of a nineteen eighties take on Dragnet
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: that veers closer to the original, then I actually recommend Mathnet,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: which has got pretty much all of its episodes have
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: been posted on YouTube. Was a PBS parody for the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: kids program Square One that eventually practically devoured Square one TV.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: The theme music is very close to the original, although
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, and I think the humor
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and the relationship between the two partners is a lot
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: closer to what you saw on television with Dragnet. Now,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'm a bit biased towards Mathnet, because without Mathnet, I
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be doing this podcast. It was Mathnet which
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: got me interested in the nineteen sixties Dragnet TV series,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: which got me interested in the nineteen fifties Dragnet TV series,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: which got me interested in the radio series, which got
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: me more broadly interested in old time radio in general.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: But at any rate, thank you for the question, Bernard,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Then we turned to the Apple podcast Or,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: where we have a new review from scholar Ace Records,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: who writes a wide variety that changes semi regularly with
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a different show six days a week. There is a
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: show for anyone. There have been a few over the
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: years that I haven't connected with, but with six shows
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: a week, this is a trifle. I know some have
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a problem with Adam's voice and or commentary, but this
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: is not the best basis of the podcast. I want
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to appreciate the historical contact and for those who don't,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: there is a skip button and Adam always puts in
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a small pause between his opening and the start of
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the radio show. Again, if you like detective shows, this
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: is the best in the genre. Well, thanks so much.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time to leave a review
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and provide a bit of a counterbalance to the sort
• 40:22
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• 40:26
  Speaker 1: left there which went don't rate out because we don't
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: want to dwell on non constructive negativity. And then we
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: turn to our listener survey where Scott in Beaverton roots
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: thank you for a great show. Well, thanks so much, Scott.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And now it's time to think our Patreon supporter of
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the day, and I want to go ahead and thank Idle,
• 40:50
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  Speaker 1: And now to the part I'm having to re record
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: because I was so used to Dragnet being on Saturday
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and being the end of our programming week. But we
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: will be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: But join us back here tomorrow for yours truly, Johnny Dollar.
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  Speaker 16: Where Look well, I already told the cops that Claire
• 41:38
  Speaker 16: was here in the club last evening, all evening until midnight,
• 41:42
  Speaker 16: out in the barn most of the time.
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  Speaker 10: What difference does it make?
• 41:45
  Speaker 14: How about the rest of the time we were talking
• 41:47
  Speaker 14: here in my office.
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  Speaker 3: Just the tool, just the tool of us.
• 41:50
  Speaker 14: And now, look, dal Like, what it boils down.
• 41:52
  Speaker 16: To is you've each got alibis from one another.
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  Speaker 4: Huh that's right.
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  Speaker 8: Look, nosey boy, Claire didn't kill At.
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  Speaker 16: The moment, I wasn't thinking so much about her. Wait
• 42:04
  Speaker 16: a minute, if you're trying to pin this on me,
• 42:07
  Speaker 16: you and Claire have been pretty friendly, Santas. She benefits
• 42:11
  Speaker 16: to the tune of one hundred grand by Benton's death.
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: Look dallat you blowing smoke in the wrong direction.
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  Speaker 10: I like the arrangement the way it was.
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  Speaker 3: Why should I try to change it? That's a good question,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: So just let it drop.
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  Speaker 14: You getting me, you've got nothing to worry about, Santus.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: If you've got nothing top I hope.
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  Speaker 1: You'll be with us then in the maintime. Send your
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  Speaker 1: your host, Adam Graham. Sign and off.