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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Are GLP-1's CrossFit's New Enemy? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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what is up everybody welcome
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to lunch with the
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Clydesdale it is a somber
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day in the Schweitzer
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household as my beloved
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Chicago Bears after a big
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lead in the second half
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couldn't hold it in the
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fourth quarter and let the
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Vikings come back and win the game and
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You know what the worst part of it is, too,
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as I'm getting older?
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I had to stay up.
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I had to stay up until
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eleven thirty last night to
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watch my team lose,
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to watch my team lose.
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So not only do they lose,
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but now I'm getting less sleep.
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Now I've got to get up for work.
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I got to do the whole thing.
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And it just adds like salt to the wound.
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Like, really?
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Really?
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Really?
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And they look so good in the first half.
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So good in the, well, first quarter,
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really.
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And then we were down that
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our top three defensive
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players were all hurt last night.
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And by the fourth quarter,
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you could just tell that
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they were exhausted.
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The defense was exhausted.
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The Vikings made adjustments.
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And the Bears couldn't
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counteract that at all.
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Yeah, Denise.
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Dinner time is five p.m.
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Bedtime, eight thirty in our household.
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Yeah, I normally make it to ten.
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Ten is kind of my.
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Is my time, but.
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Yeah, eleven thirty is rough.
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Eleven thirty is rough,
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especially when I stayed up
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for that Bill's Ravens game
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on Sunday night.
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Ken, Ken, Ken.
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I'm not making excuses.
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I'm just saying that that's a fact.
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They still should have tried
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to win the game.
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They had it in hand,
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and the Vikings made the adjustments.
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Kevin O'Connell's a great coach.
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Brian Flores is a great defensive coach.
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They made adjustments.
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The Bears weren't as quick to adjust,
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so...
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Caleb looked really good
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against a pretty great defense.
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My Vikes hung on, though.
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My only problem with the
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Bears offense is I know
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Caleb was inconsistent,
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but it's the false start penalties.
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It's been a problem all offseason,
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all training camp.
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They've been working on it, pounding it,
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pounding it, and bam,
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four false start penalties.
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We're going on two guys.
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Don't move until I say two.
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It's crazy.
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Anyway,
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I think that there is something to
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build on there for the Bears.
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I think we will be better by
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the end of the year.
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But I think it's going to be
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too late in this division.
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too late um this division's
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too good with the Packers
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the Vikings and the Lions
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it's going to be it's going
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to be a tough road to hoe
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uh no matter how good they
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get to um pre-snap
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penalties are killers yes
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four false starts at home not great uh
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Ken Walters,
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I will say we did finally get a bad call.
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That interference call
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wasn't interference and
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came and seemed to change dramatically.
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The game seemed to change
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dramatically at that point.
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That holding call was not holding either.
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When you pancake a guy that's not holding,
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that's dominating.
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But I'm not, listen,
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every game you can say
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something about the refs,
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just like you can say
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something about the judging
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in every CrossFit event.
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um so I don't I try not to
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blame anything on the
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referees or the judges or
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anything like that it just
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is what it is you have to
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deal with it so yeah eric
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you're dead on dj moore was
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wide open caleb missed him
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yeah caleb pushed
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You could tell he was
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pushing second quarter and
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on because all of his balls
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were going along.
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So he was pushing and
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forcing the ball too much.
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You Saints fans.
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I got to ask you,
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this has nothing to do with
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playing football.
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Those yellow jerseys they
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wore on Sunday hurt my eyes.
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Am I the only one that
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thought that if they are
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going to wear those jerseys
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all year round?
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Oh, good Lord, please.
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Someone, someone put them away.
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They were God awful.
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Oh,
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Caleb reminds me a lot of
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Lamar when he was younger.
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If he turns out like Lamar, then woo-hoo,
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I will take that.
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What were those unis?
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Like Timo, Aaron, Brooks, Saints unis.
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Oh, they were so bad.
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So bad.
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Whoever thought that yellow,
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because I thought they were
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supposed to be gold.
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Their team colors are black
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and gold with a very deep gold.
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That yellow was awful.
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Okay.
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Love the black helmet.
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I do like the black helmets.
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I do.
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I'll give you that.
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Caleb looked good on the
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first ten plays there.
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Scripted and practiced and walked through.
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But beyond that,
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he was like seventeen of thirty.
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Yeah.
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He was only about fifty
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percent the rest of the game.
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And I can't afford gold tariffs.
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That must be it.
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The jerseys are now just an
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ugly yellow because we
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can't get the gold through the tariffs.
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completely disagree joseph
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williams is going to be the
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starter he's getting better
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and better he has too many
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special qualities to give
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up on him danny dimes look
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good I'll give you that
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cross fat he looked really
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good I actually picked him
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up on my fantasy league um
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got rid of tua as my backup
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and picked up danny dimes so
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If your defense can't stop J.J.
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McCarthy, you deserve to lose.
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If you watch that game in
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the fourth quarter, J.J.
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McCarthy put balls into
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places that only top-tier
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quarterbacks can put balls.
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He looked good.
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I hate to say that, but he looked good.
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All right, guys.
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that's the bears game we
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will move move on yes mark
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that was jj mccarthy's
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first start he was out
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injured all last year just
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notice the strong like
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moose t there she's at our
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gym I love freya freya's
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one of my favorite people in the world um
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had her on the show a couple
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times I've chatted with her
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at waterpalooza um she's
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she's awesome where are you
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at uh five a.m squat club
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is she back in canada I
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don't even I haven't
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followed up with her much
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in the last uh twelve
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months so curious where she's at
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Ottawa.
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Okay, cool.
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Okay, so there we go.
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In CrossFit news,
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I don't know if you guys saw,
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but it was announced
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yesterday by
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Tierwaterpalooza that Alex
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Kazan will not participate
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in the SoCal event,
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the team competition North
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America versus the world.
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And so they actually
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yesterday put out a poll.
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Who do you want to see?
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The top vote getters were
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Olivia Kerstetter, Ariel Loewen,
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Brooke Wells and Emily Rolfe.
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And they then decided to go
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with Olivia Kerstetter.
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So Olivia Kerstetter will be
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filling in for Alex Kazan
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at Tierwater Palooza SoCal.
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Probably actually improves the team,
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which is hard to say
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because Alex is so phenomenal.
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But the one thing that...
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The North American team did
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not have was top end
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strength for the lifts.
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She is going if if they
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don't put her in one of the
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lifts with the either Isabel or Grace.
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I mean,
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she'll crush whatever she's in in those.
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Before it was kind of a
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foregone conclusion that
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Tia would win whatever she was in.
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You could put Olivia against
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her head to head.
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Olivia can beat Tia in the lifts.
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So it's going to be
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interesting to see how the
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coaches play this.
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It actually adds, I think,
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more intrigue to the event.
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So yeah,
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I think this actually adds more interest,
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especially in those crazy things.
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So there it is.
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And I love Alex Kazan.
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I think she's going to be
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one of the best female
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athletes in the space soon.
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But I just think because of
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what Olivia's strengths are,
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it makes this competition
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more interesting.
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She probably knows how to
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pew-pew based on Heppner.
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She might.
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Just where she grew up, I mean,
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that's common.
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And I'm sure she shot a gun once.
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If she's been training with Hefner,
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I'm sure she shot a gun and
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that is one of the events as well.
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Uh, Ryan Aldrich.
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Yeah.
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Olivia versus Tia and the
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lift would be fire.
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It would, I think,
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especially if they do grace or Isabel,
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which I'm assuming you
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would have cursed or do
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Isabel because her snatch
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is so fast at cycling.
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She would,
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I think she would kill whoever
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she was put up against.
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Jacob has a range on his land.
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I know he does.
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And so I'm sure she has shot something.
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Now it's just how similar to
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a real gun is the ERG gun.
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We'll see.
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Denise,
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I just want Alex to be a hundred
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percent before she goes
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back to competing.
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Completely agree.
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Completely agree.
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CrossFit,
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I do wish Alex would just write
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off the year and focus on next season.
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I don't disagree with you.
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I think that's probably a smart move.
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But as a competitor,
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I kind of get what they're doing.
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Maybe she needs that hope of
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the possibility while training right now.
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But... And she probably
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wants that guaranteed money of the...
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WFP next year and she has a
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five hundred points she
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doesn't need a whole lot
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more in the next one if she
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can just have a decent
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finish she will probably
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finish with a tour card and
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guaranteed money and so I
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having that to fund your
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season isn't a bad thing
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either the laser guns
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easier there's no recoil I
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know they had it at the age
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group games for people to try out
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I believe.
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Because Carolyn said she
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tried it and was terrible at it.
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So, yeah,
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I think they had it there to try out.
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They need to replace Felner.
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I'm not saying they need to
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replace Vellner,
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but I think it's a crime
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that James Sprague is not on the team.
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But I've talked about that enough.
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It's their invitational type thing.
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They get to invite whoever they want.
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if a WFP athlete misses an event,
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do they get docked money?
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So my understanding is their
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contract is that if they miss an event,
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so there were three events
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this year and say, just for easy math,
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you were,
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you were paid three thousand
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dollars for the season and
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you have three events and
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one of those three events
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you didn't attend,
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one thousand dollars would
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be pulled from your guarantee.
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So then the most you could
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make would be two thousand dollars.
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So that's how I understand it.
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It is based on percentages.
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So equal percentages for each event.
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And then that percentage is
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taken out of your annual salary.
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If you do not like Haley
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Adams would get no money at this point.
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If she shows up to Copenhagen,
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she would get one third of
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what she was guaranteed.
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um then he said yeah it was
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there I never got a chance
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to try it uh cindy uh
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denise's training partner
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is competing at socal in
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the fifty plus she didn't
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get a chance to try the air
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gun either yeah but it was
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there it was there for
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everybody to try so so cool with that
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Does the money they don't
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pay out go to a prize cap
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or Will's vacation fund?
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I think it goes to Will's vacation fund.
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I think the reality is that
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it actually goes back just
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to the owners in their pot
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of money to move forward
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with the league itself.
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And nothing,
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really nothing more than that.
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Are they employees or contractors of WFP?
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I think they are contractors.
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I don't think they're a
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full-time employee.
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They're just contracted in.
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I don't think we will ever
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know the answer to that question, Bubba.
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But I'm betting it's more than...
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I think it is.
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So there is that.
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I think,
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but I do think that makes SoCal
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much more interesting now.
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So I'm excited about that.
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All right.
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next thing I want to talk
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about and I don't have a
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ton of time today so I have
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to be at a one o'clock
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meeting and that is that uh
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I've said all along that I
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love the new crossfit
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campaign like um what what
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what's the it's f the
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solution f the we are the
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cure um whatever it is and
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I've always said that I
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like that marketing campaign if they have
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The thing that we're all
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going to unite and fight against.
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And what I think it is now, yes,
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F the quick fix, we are the cure.
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And what they're actually
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fighting against and what
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they're trying to unify
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behind is the GLP-I's.
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I just watched the CrossFit
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podcast this morning with Denise Thomas,
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Jocelyn Riley, Joe Alexander,
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and Tom McCoy talking about
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the GLP-I's and the
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epidemic that it has become.
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And what I think is they're
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trying to talk about...
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that there are medical
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reasons for the GLP ones,
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but it is being abused and
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people are being left
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abandoned after being given it.
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Essentially what they,
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they said in this thing is
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doctors are prescribing it
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and eventually insurance
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companies are withdrawing
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their commitment to pay for it.
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And then it's leaving people
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with this solution that they had.
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and no way to pay for it.
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And in addition to that,
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there is side effects to it
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that people aren't realizing.
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Because not only does it promote fat loss,
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but it promotes muscle loss
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and bone density loss.
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And when you're losing those two things,
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The bone density piece,
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we all know we don't want
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to grow older with brittle bones.
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And then when you lose the muscle mass,
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it actually slows down your metabolism.
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We all know we're supposed
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to have so much protein
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intake and we want to
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retain as much muscle as
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possible because that
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muscle keeps the metabolism
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fired up and moving.
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And so the side effect is
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that because of the muscle loss,
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when you go off of the GLP-I,
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you actually gain the
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weight faster than you did
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before because you don't
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have the muscle mass to
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burn the calories.
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So...
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I thought they were very fair.
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And it's probably one of the
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best CrossFit podcasts I've seen.
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They went live with it.
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They took questions.
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It was very good.
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And they were very careful to say, like,
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there are reasons why
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people are prescribed this.
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But they need to learn the
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tools and have the community around them
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If they're going to go down this road,
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they need to learn how to
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do things the right way,
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not just rely on the
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medicine to get them where
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they want to go.
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And this really hits home for me.
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Like I have struggled with
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weight loss my entire life.
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I grew up as a swimmer
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swimming five to six hours a day.
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I could eat whatever I wanted.
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I didn't really understand
21:50
the nutritional thing as I
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was growing up.
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I was just trying to get
21:53
calories in because I was
21:54
burning so many in a day.
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And then you come off of
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that and you don't have any
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of the tools with you.
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And so over the rest of my life,
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I've struggled trying to
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figure out that plan.
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And it's, so I feel for them.
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I see that I,
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just like a fringe athlete
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looking at anabolic
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steroids or human growth
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hormone is a way to get
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them over the top.
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As an overweight person,
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it is very tempting to look
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at this shot that can help
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me get back to where I want to be
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but knowing that it's not
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the right thing to do.
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So it's a constant struggle.
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And if I,
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who have this CrossFit background,
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lost a lot of weight through CrossFit,
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through nutrition, through all of that,
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can see this temptation and
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feel this temptation,
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what is going through the
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minds of all these people
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that don't know what the solution is?
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It is...
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it is becoming such an epidemic.
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And I think that if CrossFit,
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this is the fight, this is the new enemy.
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I think that's heading in
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the right direction.
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I think we are finally
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getting aligned behind that
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one thing that can unite
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the community and be the
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one thing we fight against.
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And
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And I hope that it goes hand
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in hand with that marketing
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campaign to move forward
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and fight the GLP-I's.
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I know there's a lot of comments here.
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Claire,
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also the conversation posted today
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between Jocelyn and Dr.
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Fung had really insightful perspective.
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That is my next watch.
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So I'm going to watch that
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tonight and be ready to
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talk about that tomorrow.
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Serena was paid to GOP one.
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Do we know if she actually took it?
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She says she has come out
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and said she takes it.
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The crazy thing about this
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is her husband sits on the
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board of row and row is the
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company she's taking the GLP one from.
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Um,
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Trish Bucci, CrossFit, F the quick fix.
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Serena is in a GOP One commercial.
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They say it's a quick fix.
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That's not just a coincidence, right?
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I don't think it is a coincidence at all.
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Lito,
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I don't think they're making them the
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enemy, though, nor that they should.
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As, like you said,
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they can be a lifeline for
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a lot of people.
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Right, right.
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The enemy is the abuse of it, Lito.
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The enemy is the abuse of this,
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that there are millions of
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people just given this as
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the answer with no tools,
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no way to handle it,
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and no easy way to come off of it.
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I was shocked by the sleep
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apnea ad for them last
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night on Monday Night Football.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well,
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and they go into this on this podcast
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about how it's it's just
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the beginning for the
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pharmaceutical company
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because they know that it
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contributes to muscle loss
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and to bone density issues.
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They're already working on
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pharmaceuticals to combat
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that to package with the GLP ones.
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So you take the GLP one,
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you lose the muscle,
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you lose the bone density,
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and then you have to take
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another pill to get that back.
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or to get the building of that back.
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It is a vicious cycle.
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That is what the
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pharmaceutical companies do.
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They not only look for the answer,
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they look for the answer to
26:16
the side effects that come
26:18
from the first answer so
26:20
that it's just one shot or
26:22
pill after another, after another,
26:25
after another.
26:33
Another crazy thing about
26:34
the GLP ones is that you
26:35
need to take them for the
26:36
rest of your life.
26:37
Once you stop your health
26:38
deteriorates and you're
26:40
worse off than before you started.
26:42
Right.
26:42
And they were saying that,
26:43
and then the health
26:44
insurances stop paying for it.
26:46
So they're leaving people in the lurch.
26:55
Elise Bone or Bon,
26:57
you have said it a few
26:58
times and it is key.
27:00
The medication is just a tool.
27:01
Along with the tool,
27:02
there needs to be education
27:04
around diet and exercise.
27:17
Yeah, I think this is key, Elise.
27:19
If you make the lifestyle
27:20
changes along with it,
27:22
Now, Dr. Tom McCoy,
27:23
who actually was my doctor
27:25
when I was with Wild Health,
27:27
he's a great dude.
27:28
He is a CrossFit MD L-I,
27:32
and I'm glad they're using
27:33
him in these things because
27:35
in our one-on-one
27:36
consultations and the
27:40
weight issues I was facing,
27:42
he was very much about the
27:45
lifestyle changes that needed to happen.
27:48
Um,
27:48
so I've experienced his medical
27:51
practice firsthand and I
27:53
trust him when he, when he speaks.
27:56
And that is what he is saying.
27:59
He's saying that once you take a GLP one,
28:02
You already, before you take that,
28:04
the amount of protein you
28:05
need to get in in a day is
28:07
very hard to do.
28:08
We struggle to get people to
28:11
have that much protein intake in a day.
28:13
The minute you take a GLP-I,
28:15
it's at least two hundred
28:16
grams of protein a day.
28:18
And just imagine how
28:19
difficult it would be to
28:22
have that much protein
28:23
intake and how much of a
28:25
concerted effort that would
28:27
take to get there.
28:30
It is insanity.
28:33
But those are the lifestyle
28:35
changes that you need to
28:36
seek out if you are going
28:39
to go down this road.
28:46
The other thing that I
28:47
thought was very important
28:48
and kind of speaks to what
28:49
Elise said is that it's not
28:51
about judgment.
28:52
It's about having a way to
28:56
support people who need
28:58
this as a medical tool.
29:01
as a medical solution.
29:05
Jocelyn Riley, who owns an affiliate,
29:08
says she wants to have a
29:09
class specifically designed
29:12
to help people who have had
29:15
to go on GLP-I's and to
29:20
cater the classes and the
29:22
nutrition that they learn
29:25
to that specific thing.
29:29
But again,
29:30
not everybody should be going
29:31
down this path, but those that have,
29:36
there are answers and there
29:37
are solutions to
29:38
surrounding yourself with
29:39
the right community and the
29:41
right lifestyle choices.
29:49
Do you think we need more
29:50
meds now because of the
29:51
crap food companies make?
29:54
I think we need more
29:55
supplementation because of
29:57
the crap food companies make.
30:00
And that gets to be a vicious cycle too.
30:02
Like what are the good supplements?
30:04
What are the ones that are actually pure?
30:06
What are the ones that
30:06
actually make sense?
30:11
The kid that's working a
30:12
high school job at GNC
30:13
probably doesn't have those answers,
30:15
right?
30:26
Um, uh, Jeff,
30:30
my company dropped coverage
30:31
for the drugs because of
30:33
one office and a doctor
30:35
with a loose script pad.
30:36
Yeah.
30:37
The state of Ohio dropped
30:39
coverage for GLP ones too,
30:41
unless you meet their
30:43
requirements of a diabetic.
30:46
Um,
30:49
and now that's the only way they'll
30:51
even pay for it at all.
30:53
And that's still an iffy proposition.
31:01
Stop buying and eating the crap food.
31:03
One thing I learned when I
31:04
went fully into research,
31:06
when I lost my two hundred
31:07
and fifty pounds, is that as a society,
31:11
even the good food is being picked early.
31:14
It's they try to age it on a shelf.
31:16
It doesn't have the
31:17
nutrients it used to have.
31:19
We have really screwed up
31:21
our food system in this country.
31:32
Five a.m.
31:33
squat club.
31:33
I moved to the country and
31:35
raised sheep and cattle
31:36
because the food system is effed.
31:42
Shanna,
31:43
the problem is the body has evolved
31:44
over thousands of years to
31:45
be moving and eating whole foods,
31:47
not life hack drug.
31:49
We'll ever not have bad side effects.
31:52
The side effects take years.
32:08
This reminds me of bariatric surgery,
32:10
twenty years ago.
32:13
Yeah, whenever as someone like, honestly,
32:17
guys,
32:17
I struggle with this every single day.
32:20
I've not done bariatrics,
32:21
I've not done GLP ones,
32:24
but I struggle every single
32:26
day with this fight.
32:29
When people have answers,
32:31
you're looking for answers,
32:33
you're looking for ways to
32:34
find a way out and you look
32:37
into these things.
32:39
And thank God I've had the
32:40
willpower in that direction
32:42
to not go down those paths.
32:45
But you're talking to people
32:46
that don't have a ton of
32:48
willpower to begin with.
32:49
And then you're giving them
32:51
extra temptations on a
32:53
solution to the lack of
32:54
willpower by advertising to
32:57
their lack of willpower.
32:59
It's a vicious, vicious cycle.
33:10
We have engineered ourselves into illness.
33:15
That's very well said.
33:20
More people requires more produced foods,
33:22
sadly.
33:39
TRT is easier than nutrition and sleep,
33:42
and it works with bad sleep.
33:48
There's shortcuts everywhere.
33:49
It's not just about weight loss.
33:51
It's, you know, the TRT thing is big.
33:55
There are tons of peptides
33:56
out there for a variety of reasons.
34:04
It's crazy.
34:12
Why do you deem it as a temptation?
34:14
That language is very specific.
34:16
I'm just giving you my thoughts as an,
34:18
as a person who has
34:19
struggled with weight loss
34:21
my entire life.
34:22
And that is that food is tempting.
34:26
The solutions are tempting.
34:29
Every day is a fight over
34:34
these things that are put
34:35
in front of you as either a
34:38
food that you shouldn't eat
34:40
or a solution to get over
34:42
the food that you shouldn't eat.
34:44
And what I'm saying is a
34:47
person that is already
34:48
overweight has an addictive
34:50
personality and they face
34:51
temptation every day.
34:54
the way the ad campaigns are
34:55
for the GLP ones is they
34:58
are targeting the people
34:59
that have those addictions
35:01
and have those temptations
35:02
in front of them with a temptation of,
35:05
Hey,
35:05
we can fix the solution and you don't
35:08
have to put any work into it.
35:12
And when Serena Williams comes on and says,
35:15
this is the new health system,
35:17
like that's crazy talk.
35:21
I mean,
35:21
thank God I found a CrossFit gym
35:23
years ago that taught me
35:25
the bottom part of the
35:26
pyramid and that I have
35:27
some knowledge behind me
35:29
and I don't just dive into these things.
35:31
But there's millions of
35:32
people that don't have that education.
35:44
Having community when you
35:45
are trying to make healthy
35:46
changes is crucial.
35:47
When I started taking care of my body,
35:48
I actually lost friends.
35:50
But CrossFit helped me
35:51
connect with people who can
35:52
help motivate.
35:53
Amen, sister.
35:55
I remember I first started CrossFit.
35:57
You would go to the parties
35:58
with the CrossFit friends,
36:00
and the food there were
36:01
good food choices.
36:03
They weren't processed foods.
36:05
You all ate the same.
36:08
It made getting through
36:09
those initial steps of weight loss much,
36:12
much easier.
36:16
It's the addiction we are
36:17
forced to microdose for health.
36:34
What is more accurate,
36:35
CrossFit is the cure or
36:37
CrossFit is a cure?
36:45
Probably the latter.
36:48
but how many other places
36:50
offer a community
36:51
environment to love on you in the,
36:54
in the tough times and the
36:57
way to move your body in a
36:59
way that's healthy and good
37:00
for it and surround you
37:02
with people that can teach
37:03
you the base of the pyramid,
37:06
which is proper nutrition.
37:10
It may be a cure, but it's
37:15
one of the limited number of
37:17
cures out there.
37:27
CrossFit is a tool just like medication.
37:38
Yeah, this is great.
37:39
CrossFat.
37:40
Medicine is discovering the
37:41
power of direct-to-consumer,
37:43
and that should scare folks.
37:45
Yeah,
37:45
there's only two countries in the
37:46
world that allow direct
37:48
marketing of
37:49
pharmaceuticals to the general public,
37:52
and we are one of them.
38:09
Jeff Mako telling someone
38:10
who is morbidly obese to
38:11
just stop eating and start
38:12
walking is like telling
38:14
someone who is clinically
38:15
depressed to just go
38:15
outside and touch grass and be happy.
38:29
Scott,
38:29
not all CrossFit gyms are supportive
38:31
as you're describing.
38:32
I'm sure.
38:33
Just like anything in this world,
38:35
there are good and bad.
38:37
My experiences at CrossFit gyms,
38:38
at the two that I've been a member of,
38:40
have been amazing.
38:42
The community was amazing.
38:44
The support was amazing.
38:47
So I can only go by what I experienced,
38:50
but I have dropped into
38:51
gyms where I didn't see the
38:54
same care that I got at my home gyms.
38:57
And I've dropped into other
38:58
gyms where I got the same
39:00
care and maybe even more
39:02
than I got at my home gyms.
39:04
So I know it varies.
39:06
Before I was in this current position,
39:08
I traveled a lot throughout the Midwest.
39:11
I dropped into gyms all the time.
39:13
And I would say eighty
39:14
percent of them were freaking awesome.
39:17
But there were twenty
39:18
percent that were pretty bad.
39:21
And so I know that it's not
39:23
always the answer.
39:27
There are no absolutes in the world.
39:39
Yeah.
39:40
John George really messed
39:41
that her husband sits on a
39:42
board of the pharma company.
39:43
What a joke.
39:45
I didn't know that until I
39:46
watched this podcast.
40:04
Jeff, you can say that about just gyms,
40:05
but HQ pushing this message helps.
40:07
I visited a gym that had a
40:09
QR code for game day men's health.
40:22
And Jeff understands.
40:24
Yeah.
40:24
Yeah.
40:25
Yeah, you can say that about all gyms.
40:26
They're good and bad all around the world.
40:29
But I would say that the hit
40:31
rate on good CrossFit gyms
40:34
has been pretty high for me.
40:36
And I've dropped into a lot
40:37
of gyms in my time.
40:45
CrossFit gym pushing TRT was crazy.
40:47
That is crazy.
40:55
Yeah.
41:01
Um, every day is an opportunity.
41:02
Have you looked into Serena's full story?
41:04
I keep seeing people speak on her,
41:06
but fail to mention everything else.
41:08
Um, I haven't looked into it fully.
41:10
I was a fan of hers.
41:11
Uh, when she played tennis,
41:13
she's one of the greatest
41:14
female athletes I've ever seen in my,
41:17
in my fifty five years.
41:19
Um,
41:19
but I'm not here to attack her for
41:21
doing what she's doing.
41:22
If, if it's medically needed for her, um,
41:27
then then that's okay I'm
41:29
not here saying that you
41:30
shouldn't do these I'm
41:31
saying that you do need to
41:36
learn the proper tools and
41:38
be surrounded by the right
41:39
community if you're going
41:40
to go down this road road
41:43
and it is the thing that
41:45
you need to get to where you're going
41:54
It's hard to process because
41:55
she was the face of this is
41:56
a functional body.
41:58
Right.
41:58
Serena never looked... She
42:04
was the person that was
42:05
okay to have a lot of
42:06
muscle and to have the body
42:09
that could perform...
42:13
And to see her shrink down
42:16
to what she is is really hard to watch.
42:20
And I think that's why it's
42:21
impacting people's opinions so much.
42:33
Jake, every time I hear the G.I.
42:34
Joe type saying it's just a
42:36
lack of willpower as if
42:37
it's something people can just decide,
42:39
I shudder.
42:40
Must be nice to be perfect, eh?
42:43
Well,
42:43
and also you have to factor in
42:44
there's some doctors saying do this.
42:48
They're telling their patients to do this.
42:51
My parents' generation,
42:53
if the doctor told you to do something,
42:55
you did it.
42:56
You didn't question it.
42:59
Now,
42:59
some of us have learned that over time
43:01
that maybe that's not the
43:02
right answer or that you
43:04
need to find a different
43:05
medical professional.
43:07
But that's the way it is for
43:08
a lot of people in this world.
43:25
So Chris Beesterfield,
43:29
question everything.
43:31
I think that's what we've learned,
43:33
that because of the way
43:34
things are done in this
43:35
country now with
43:36
direct-to-consumer
43:37
marketing of pharmaceuticals,
43:40
things like that,
43:41
that we do need to question everything.
43:43
We do need to verify.
43:44
We do need to check.
43:46
Elise is banging that home.
43:49
I just think that some
43:52
generations haven't learned
43:53
that yet and are just being
43:55
given these drugs with no
43:58
tools and no way out.
44:06
Western doctors are trained
44:07
to treat symptoms and not
44:08
look for the underlying
44:09
causes and treat those instead.
44:12
I've got a great story for that,
44:14
a personal story,
44:15
but I'm going to have to
44:16
get to it tomorrow.
44:18
or Thursday because
44:19
tomorrow's Cajun Day with Corey.
44:21
But thank you all for this
44:23
great discussion.
44:24
I think this is something we
44:25
need to talk about moving
44:26
forward a little bit more.
44:29
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44:31
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44:32
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44:35
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44:36
Love to get there by the end of the year.
44:39
um I hope we can get there
44:40
um but I want to keep these
44:41
discussions up as someone
44:43
who has fought this fight
44:44
for so long um I want to
44:47
keep this fresh and moving
44:49
with that thank you so much
44:50
for being here I got to get
44:52
to my meeting you
44:53
knuckleheads get back to
44:54
work too and we will see
44:55
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44:57
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