Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Top 10 Scariest Chicago Serial Killers
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone. Get ready for a deep dive today, folks. Chicago, right,
- 0:05a city known for its skyline, it's pizza, its energy, right,
- 0:08But beneath that vibrant surface, there's a history, a dark history. Yeah,
- 0:13we're talking about serial killers.
- 0:15Speaker 2: It's true, and we're going deep, folks. We've got this
- 0:17compilation of cases really shines a light on Chicago's dark side.
- 0:21Speaker 1: And the thing is, right off the bat, this isn't
- 0:23your typical serial killer trope, not at all.
- 0:26Speaker 2: You've got these individuals seemingly normal integrated into Chicago society.
- 0:31Some well, let's just say, their past would raise a
- 0:34few eyebrows if anyone knew.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Hiding in plain sight as they say, exactly, which is
- 0:38I mean John Wayne Casey, right, contractor by day Pogo,
- 0:42the clown for the kids on weekends. Yeah, just think
- 0:45about that, the trust, the access, and.
- 0:47Speaker 2: How that case sadly really changed how people see clowns forever,
- 0:52that friendly persona. The whole point was to disarm people. Appearances, Man,
- 0:56they can be deceiving.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Deceptive is one word for it. Yeah, then you've got
- 1:00hh Holmes, Yeah, talk about next level, Oh Holmes. This
- 1:03guy builds a hotel, right for the World's Fair, secret rooms,
- 1:07passages like some kind of death trap labyrinth. It's true,
- 1:11who thinks like that?
- 1:12Speaker 2: And that's where the psychology gets really really interesting, really complex,
- 1:16no easy answers. Right, but Holmes he's all about control,
- 1:20exerting power over his victims, but in this really calculated,
- 1:24meticulous way.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Okay, but that's what throws me. If Holmes is about control,
- 1:28what about Gaycy. He's got the clown act, the manipulation.
- 1:32What's the motivation there?
- 1:34Speaker 2: See, that's the question, isn't it the why? With Gaycy?
- 1:37Maybe it was the thrill of the khn the power
- 1:39of deception. Remember, we're talking about a complex mix of
- 1:42factors here, upbringing personality, even how society plays a.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Role, Does nature and nurture all tangled up in this
- 1:48really messed up way?
- 1:49Speaker 2: Exactly? Each killer' psyche is its own messed up puzzle.
- 1:53Speaker 1: And speaking of messed up, the source material mentions this
- 1:55group the Ripper Crew, operated in Chicago in the eighties.
- 1:58Satanic rituals, brutal murders. They took things to another level.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, the Ripper Crew, with the rituals and well
- 2:06everything else. It points to sadism. A need to dominate,
- 2:11not just in life, but even after death. It shows
- 2:14you how someone's fantasies, their inner world can become this
- 2:17terrifying reality.
- 2:18Speaker 1: It makes you wonder how someone even gets to that point.
- 2:20Like Richard Speck, he's in the navy, right, gets discharged,
- 2:23then goes on a rampage in a nurse's dorm, just
- 2:26pure rage.
- 2:27Speaker 2: And that's where we have to look at the role
- 2:29of fantasy, particularly with Speck. It seems like this rage
- 2:33may be directed at women, maybe rooted in past experiences.
- 2:36It just exploded.
- 2:37Speaker 1: So what we're seeing here, it's not one size fits all. Right,
- 2:40there's no single answer to why someone becomes a serial killer.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Now, each case it's its own recipe of horror, with
- 2:47its own terrible ingredients.
- 2:48Speaker 1: And believe me, this compilation we're just getting started. It's
- 2:51heavy stuff, no doubt. Yeah, and it makes you think. Right,
- 2:54we analyze, we look for patterns, but how do you
- 2:56really grasp that kind of darkness?
- 2:59Speaker 2: You really can't. And that's something important to remember as
- 3:01we go through these cases. These aren't just stories. We're
- 3:04talking about real victims, real families torn apart.
- 3:07Speaker 1: It's easy to get caught up in the I don't
- 3:10know the macaw fascination of it all, but the human
- 3:14cost that's what sticks with you.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 3:16Speaker 1: And speaking of human costs, this William Aaron's case, the
- 3:20Lipstick killer back in the forties. That one really gets
- 3:23to me.
- 3:23Speaker 2: Right, the messages he left in Lipstick. Imagine the investigator
- 3:27seeing that adds a whole other dimension to his psychology,
- 3:31Like he wanted to taunt them.
- 3:32Speaker 1: It's like he almost wanted to get caught. But before
- 3:34we go too far down that rabbit hole, you mentioned
- 3:36criminal profiling earlier, What exactly is that? How does it work?
- 3:40Speaker 2: So criminal profiling it's a tool law enforcement uses. They
- 3:43try to predict the characteristics of an unknown offender based
- 3:47on the crime scene, the victims. How they operate all
- 3:49of it to sort of paint a psychological portrait, so
- 3:53to speak.
- 3:53Speaker 1: So basically trying to get inside the mind of a
- 3:56killer in a way.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Yes, but it's not an exact science, not by all
- 4:00long shot. More like informed guesswork with a lot of
- 4:04ethical questions tied in how so well take Errand's he
- 4:07was just a teenager, right, no question he did it.
- 4:10But were his mental vulnerabilities really considered.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Back then, that's a heavy thought. But then you have
- 4:16these cases less about instability, more about cold calculation. Leopold
- 4:20and Lobe come to mind.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Ah, Leopold and Lobe the perfect example of well intellectual
- 4:26arrogance gone wrong. Two privileged students University of Chicago. They
- 4:30thought they could commit the perfect crime and.
- 4:32Speaker 1: They targeted Who was it again.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Bobby Franks, just fourteen years old, just a kid. They
- 4:37killed him to prove a point that they were smarter
- 4:39than everyone else.
- 4:40Speaker 1: The arrogance is mind blowing. Talk about human cost. A
- 4:42young life just snuffed out, a family destroyed because these
- 4:46two guys playing god.
- 4:48Speaker 2: And that's what makes the case so chilling. The lack
- 4:50of remorse. It was all a game to them, an
- 4:52intellectual exercise. That kind of detachment. It's often linked.
- 4:56Speaker 1: To psychopathy, psychopathy, we hear that term.
- 4:59Speaker 2: What is it really so psychopathy? It's not just about
- 5:02being violent or cruel, though those can be part of it.
- 5:05It's deeper. It's a lack of empathy, no remorse, no guilt.
- 5:09People with these straits they have trouble forming real emotional connections,
- 5:14so like emotionally detached exactly, and they can be incredibly manipulative,
- 5:18very good at blending in so.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Leopold and Low with their planning, the lack of remorse.
- 5:24That could be a psychopathic profile.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Potentially, yes, And that's a key point. Psychopathy isn't always
- 5:29in your face. It can be hidden, even charming, like a.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Wolf in sheep's clothing. So I've got control, power, ambition,
- 5:36and now psychopathy. It's a recipe for disaster.
- 5:39Speaker 2: It is. And in a city like Chicago, with its history,
- 5:42other factors come into play as well.
- 5:44Speaker 1: You can't talk about Chicago's dark side without mentioning organized
- 5:47Crimeshio al Capone, the Saint Valentine's Day massacre, seven people
- 5:52gunned down just like that. It wasn't just about eliminating rivals.
- 5:56It was a.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Spectacle, Oh absolutely, it was a message. This is what
- 5:59happens when you cross off Pone. But you see with Capone,
- 6:02with organized crime, it's a different breed. It's not the
- 6:05same psychology as a gacy or a homes.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Right, different motives, different monsters, exactly.
- 6:10Speaker 2: With Capone, it's about power, control of the city, the money,
- 6:14the whole game. But what's interesting you even see darkness
- 6:18emerge within families.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Closer to home. And me.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Right, take Patricia Columbo and Frank de Luca nineteen seventy six.
- 6:25They killed her family, her own parents and brother.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Wow, just wow, What could possibly drive someone to do that?
- 6:31Speaker 2: Well, the motive seems to be a mix of things.
- 6:34A bad relationship, resentment towards the family, and money was involved.
- 6:38Speaker 1: To still, to kill your own flesh and blood, that's cold.
- 6:41She was just a kid herself, wasn't she eighteen?
- 6:43Speaker 2: And that's what makes it so complicated. Was she manipulative
- 6:47or was she a victim of De Luca's influence. It's
- 6:49still debated today, so.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Many layers to these cases. It's like you never really
- 6:52know the whole story, but it reminds you evil can
- 6:55be anywhere, even in your own family.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Absolutely, and sometimes it on the most vulnerable among us.
- 7:02Speaker 1: That's what gets me about this Andre Crawford case. Years
- 7:06he terrorized the Englewood neighborhood.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Yeah, Crawford's case, it's heartbreaking. He targeted women, many struggling
- 7:13with addiction, women who were often overlooked, forgotten, so he.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Took advantage of their situation, their vulnerability.
- 7:21Speaker 2: It's a tragic example of how societal issues, poverty, addiction,
- 7:25they can create an environment where this kind of darkness
- 7:28can thrive.
- 7:29Speaker 1: So it's not just about catching the monsters, it's about
- 7:31preventing them in the first place.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Right, And that's where the justice system it has to
- 7:35walk a fine line.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Speaking of which, this Justseph Miller case. Talk about a
- 7:39punch to the gut, get paroled after killing two women.
- 7:43Then he picks up right where he left off.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Miller's case really exposes the challenges of rehabilitation. How do
- 7:50you fix someone like that? Can you even call it fixing?
- 7:53Speaker 1: It's like, what do you even start.
- 7:54Speaker 2: It's a question that haunts the entire system, and frankly
- 7:57it should because these aren't just abstract cases. These are
- 8:00real lives, forever change now.
- 8:02Speaker 1: We can't forget that. So as we wrap up this
- 8:04deep dive, I guess the question is where do we
- 8:07go from here?
- 8:07Speaker 2: Well, for me, it always comes back to understanding. The
- 8:11more we learn about these dark corners of human behavior,
- 8:14the better prepared we are.
- 8:15Speaker 1: To confront them. So knowledge is power.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Exactly, and it's our best defense against the darkness.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Well said, Well, folks, there you have it, a glimpse
- 8:24into the shadows of the windy city. Keep asking questions,
- 8:27keep learning, and most importantly, keep yourself safe until next time.