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The Late Debate | 17 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late gentleman, Welcome to the Late Debate. Thanks for joining
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  Speaker 1: us on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Waverley Councilor Michelle Stevenson and making
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  Speaker 2: his late Debate daboo forming New South Wales police minister
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  Speaker 2: David Elliott. David, you are a good replacement for Caleb Bond,
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  Speaker 2: I reckon, Well.
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  Speaker 3: I think so too, but I've wanted to make a
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  Speaker 3: deboo all my life, sir, nice to be a debut time.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to have you and of course Michelle, you're
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  Speaker 2: filling in for Denikah.
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  Speaker 3: Who's unwilling tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's a shame, but you know I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Here absolutely well, here's what's coming up tonight. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a great show. Here's what you can expect.
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  Speaker 2: Comedian Dave Hughes takes the stage at a Victorian Liberal
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  Speaker 2: campaign event blasting the Labor government. Is this a classic
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  Speaker 2: case of a lefty being red pilled? Labor ministers insist
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  Speaker 2: there's never been a better time to buy your first home,
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  Speaker 2: but all the data says it's the worst time in
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  Speaker 2: fifty six years. We'll explain why shortly. And bosses are
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  Speaker 2: complaining that job applicants are turning up for wearing tracksuit bottoms.
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  Speaker 2: The clothes still maketh the man? Or is it a
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  Speaker 2: good thing we're a little more casual these days. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get into all of that shortly, but first, the logis
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  Speaker 2: they're supposed to be television's night of nights, but plenty
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  Speaker 2: of viewers were less than impressed after last night's ceremonies
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  Speaker 2: served up a series of jokes aimed squarely at conservative
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  Speaker 2: commentators and politicians. Host Robert Irwin had a go at
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  Speaker 2: former nine star Karl Stefanovic.
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  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, Karl Stefanovic didn't RSVP tonight, which means we didn't
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  Speaker 5: have to hire quite as many bartenders, but we've kept
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  Speaker 5: him a spare seat just in case it's over there
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  Speaker 5: to the right, the far right.
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  Speaker 2: And after that he turned on comedian Dave Hughes who's
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  Speaker 2: recently started supporting the liberals.
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  Speaker 5: Apparently I hear that Channel ten is also developing a
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  Speaker 5: reboot of Hughesy.
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  Speaker 4: We have a.
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  Speaker 5: Problem, and I think it's called no, seriously, Hughesy, we
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  Speaker 5: have a problem.
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  Speaker 2: But the jibe that caused the most upset was this
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  Speaker 2: one from Shane Jacobson.
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  Speaker 1: Oh God, if paul In Hanson's mouth was this hard
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  Speaker 1: to open, wouldn't the will be a bit of place?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 2: So the question is was it all just harmless fun
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  Speaker 2: or is there something rather revealing about a supposedly impartial
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  Speaker 2: awards ceremony that keeps finding one side of politics funny?
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  Speaker 1: Michelle? Or do you think harmless fun?
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  Speaker 3: Or is this.
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  Speaker 1: Something we should be upset about?
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  Speaker 6: It's so interesting because I do think, you know, freedom
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  Speaker 6: of speech. We should be entitled to say what we want.
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  Speaker 6: And look, sometimes comedians like to push the envelope, but
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  Speaker 6: they're making a lot of jokes to people on the right.
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  Speaker 6: There's not a lot of jokes towards people on the left.
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  Speaker 6: If you're going to take swings at one, you should
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  Speaker 6: probably take swings at the other as well.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I'm partial to.
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  Speaker 6: A bit of Hughsey, I'm partial to a bit of
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  Speaker 6: Karl Stefanova. I feel like it was a little bit
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  Speaker 6: and it was kind of off brand I found for
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  Speaker 6: Robert Irwin.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people have been saying that I didn't think.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't strike me as someone who's very political. He's
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  Speaker 6: kind of like, you know, the little kids you grew
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  Speaker 6: up in a zoo.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, I was like, because Steve Erwin really
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  Speaker 2: was pretty much apolitical. I think that's been the contrast
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  Speaker 2: for people's Son. Yeah, has come out swinging at conservatives.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and of course someone wrote it for him. It's
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  Speaker 6: not like he wrote it himself. But look, I do
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  Speaker 6: think the Shane Jacobson thing was maybe a bit I mean, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I'm going to argue it was over the line,
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  Speaker 2: but I want to hear what you think first.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is modern television. I mean, let's
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  Speaker 3: look at the logis. For ten years, their ratings haven't improved.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, they've slightly gone down in the last ten years. Jacobson,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mentioned Lydia Thorpe. I mean, if we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be taking pots of people because of their
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  Speaker 3: because of their commentary, well then Lydia Thorpe should have
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  Speaker 3: been the first one off the batting order there. But
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't find the logis funny. Don't find
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  Speaker 3: this sort of slapstick comedy funny. Bring back hey Hey
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  Speaker 3: it's Saturday. That was funny. God, that was funny.
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  Speaker 1: You could never do hey Hey It's Saturday night. July.
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  Speaker 3: I would loved it a reason of God cares.
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  Speaker 2: I think Shane and I like Shane Jacobs I do
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  Speaker 2: as well, but I think him effectively saying someone should
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  Speaker 2: shut Pauline Hanson up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a couple of things on this.
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  Speaker 2: Firstly, could you imagine if someone said that about a
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  Speaker 2: woman on the left side of politics, there would be
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  Speaker 2: screams of misogyny from Cans to Tasmania. The other thing, though,
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  Speaker 2: is this comes just twenty four hours after protests by
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  Speaker 2: young people around the country, some of whom pulled for
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson to be killed. I mean, I get it
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  Speaker 2: was a joke, I know, but was unwise to talk
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  Speaker 2: about shutting Pauline Hanson up in light of what we'd
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  Speaker 2: seen just hours earlier.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the rhetoric around our politicians is becoming
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  Speaker 6: politically is becoming particularly divisive, and I think we you
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  Speaker 6: need to be.
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  Speaker 4: Really cautious about that.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, I'm just happy that people weren't wearing
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  Speaker 6: you know, defund the police or pro Palestinian badges, because
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  Speaker 6: we know when you go to like America, any award show,
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  Speaker 6: it kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Goes extreme laughter.
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  Speaker 6: At least you know, they're just taking a few little
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  Speaker 6: pun shots.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that for like the politicians ball in Canber everything, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Midwinter ball or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But we see those things there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 6: But I think I just think, why can't we just
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  Speaker 6: for a moment have something that doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 6: politically motivated.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just have some good old fashioned fun.
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  Speaker 6: Why can't we just have an award show without people
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, making it about.
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  Speaker 2: Something or do jokes on both sides bicking it up
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  Speaker 2: and then everyone's upset an.
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  Speaker 3: Idea that's true. I'm with Michelle. I mean, let's have
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  Speaker 3: something that does that doesn't have to be political. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the current climate, everybody's so tense and this is about entertainment.
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  Speaker 3: This is about Australian entertainment and it's not supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be serious. So why are we going to be going
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  Speaker 3: into a situation where we want to divide ourselves even
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  Speaker 3: more Romans. It's hard enough as it is.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 6: Now, speaking of divisiveness, I know Dave Hughes is really
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  Speaker 6: kind of setting a lot of people up. He's completely
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  Speaker 6: redpelled himself.
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  Speaker 4: I am so for this.
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  Speaker 6: He's going onto the far right, well not too far right.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's too far right. He's moving into
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  Speaker 6: liberal territory and I'm really really excited and happy to
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  Speaker 6: have him into the fauld Welcome, Welcome, So Dave Hughes
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  Speaker 6: delivered a speech to a Liberal party a Western Victoria
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  Speaker 6: Region campaign launch at Geelong As City Bowls Club.
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  Speaker 4: Now, what I love about.
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  Speaker 6: This, and you're going to find this very shocking. I
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  Speaker 6: think James is that you know he's dedicated because he
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  Speaker 6: left the Carlton game halfway through to go. So any
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  Speaker 6: Victorian who leaves AFL match halfway through, you know he's
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  Speaker 6: a man on a mission. I think we have him
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  Speaker 6: chatting a bit about why he's doing this.
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  Speaker 7: Dan Andrews Labor lead and Labor well, his influence over
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  Speaker 7: this state is enough. We're spend a disaster. I've got
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  Speaker 7: three kids and I want them to have a chance
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  Speaker 7: in this country. It's a beautiful country, and right now
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  Speaker 7: we are we're letting politicians sell the future so they
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  Speaker 7: can get reelected.
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  Speaker 6: Now, Dave Hughes, welcome, Welcome to what everyone else has
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  Speaker 6: been saying, and that is that Victoria is doing terribly
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  Speaker 6: and that Dan Andrews really really did a bad job.
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  Speaker 6: I'm so glad that someone's finally seeing it.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think it's funny you're saying welcome right.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned the AFL, So Dave Hughes is a fanatical
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  Speaker 2: Carlton supporter. Carlton had a massive game on the weekend
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  Speaker 2: against the Bulldogs.
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  Speaker 1: It ended in a draw.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and he left at halftime right to drive up
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  Speaker 2: the highway to Geelong to do this Liberal function. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean that was a big thing in itself, leaving
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  Speaker 2: the game early. As it turned out, he missed one
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  Speaker 2: of the most exciting finishes of the season.
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  Speaker 1: But he arrived half an hour late. Oh, Liberal party event.
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  Speaker 2: But then he came up with the best line ever.
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  Speaker 2: He stood in front of the crowd. He's half an
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  Speaker 2: hour late and he says I'm late to the party,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm here now, which obviously had a double meal,
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  Speaker 2: so good, right, which Dave Hughes is never sort of
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  Speaker 2: a good line.
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  Speaker 3: David Well, I'm just delighted to see somebody swing to
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  Speaker 3: the Liberal Party because going by the polls for the
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  Speaker 3: last twelve months, we've lost a few, so it's nice
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  Speaker 3: to have one back. I mean, he's it's an interesting
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  Speaker 3: demographic for you know, a guy at his age to
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  Speaker 3: make such a changement. It was Churchill who said, if
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  Speaker 3: you're a socialist and you're under sorry, if you're not
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  Speaker 3: a socialist and you're under thirty, you've got no heart.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're still a socialist over forty, you've got
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  Speaker 3: no brain. So he took a little while for him
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  Speaker 3: to come and it's good. I mean, I'm just wondering
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  Speaker 3: if this is the beginning of the day for PM campaign.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, is he looking at becoming an MP at
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  Speaker 3: the next election? Is he going to be running at
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  Speaker 3: the Victorian election next in a couple of monks, I think.
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  Speaker 6: It was pretty much categorically said that he's not interested
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  Speaker 6: in getting a hole that before. But like, I love
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  Speaker 6: the fact that he's literally he went, he just came
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  Speaker 6: out of the gates, out of nowhere. He went from
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  Speaker 6: zero to hero within like you know, like no time
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  Speaker 6: at all and very much activated and look a dave
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  Speaker 6: of Forughes activation, I'm all for.
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  Speaker 2: It was after the May budget and he was really
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  Speaker 2: upset that they changed their position of change their position.
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  Speaker 2: They lied on capital gains tax and so do you
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  Speaker 2: remember he put at that post where he basically said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed for having voted labor for this bunch of
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  Speaker 2: liars at the last election, and since that moment he
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  Speaker 2: has been on a war path against the labor government.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing that makes this delicious, of course, is
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  Speaker 2: that everyone assumes that if you are you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: in the entertainment business, so you must be a lefty.
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  Speaker 2: And so for him to suddenly speak out on behalf
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  Speaker 2: of the right, I mean, people just can't get their
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  Speaker 2: head around.
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  Speaker 4: It's blowing their minds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but apparently he's got eyes. He's able to see
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  Speaker 2: what the rest of us.
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  Speaker 6: Came and he's able to read exactly, and.
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  Speaker 2: He's paying bills, and more importantly, he's got kids, and
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  Speaker 2: he says, look, I look at the future of my kids,
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  Speaker 2: what's happening in this state, and I just cannot keep
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  Speaker 2: going the way I've been going, and I've got to
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  Speaker 2: speak out. And to his credit, I he's taking a
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  Speaker 2: lot of flak for it. He's not been without a price.
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  Speaker 3: It is, and I'm really impressed with him. I've never
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  Speaker 3: been a big fan. And if he little tip Dave,
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  Speaker 3: if you're going to be an MP, have a haircut
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  Speaker 3: and maybe a shave. But he does you know, Mel
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  Speaker 3: Gibson's Conservative, so maybe he's going to be the next
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  Speaker 3: Mel Gibson for the Australian entertainment industry. Maybe he's going
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  Speaker 3: to go out there and be and be an advocate
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  Speaker 3: for the Conservative cause. Good on it.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if I like that kind of enough
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  Speaker 6: kind of comparison, but.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, well, David, one of the things, Hugh's he's really
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  Speaker 2: upset about his housing and the problems we've got there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, I mean we've seen the headlines and
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  Speaker 3: of course we've seen Pauline Hanson talk about the economy.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked, we've seen the changes to the CGT and
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  Speaker 3: to negative gearing make a massive change in the in
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  Speaker 3: the in the mentality towards housing. And I think probably
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  Speaker 3: if we if we see that the cost of housing
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  Speaker 3: has of course been the number one issue in Australian
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  Speaker 3: politics for probably well, I mean they're all saying this
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  Speaker 3: is a new phenomenon, you know, housing of the housing
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  Speaker 3: crisis is a new phenomenon, but it's not really the
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  Speaker 3: case because we've seen these new figures that have revealed
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  Speaker 3: that first home buyers have been facing the worst condition
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  Speaker 3: since since records began in nineteen seventy. But what fascinated me,
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  Speaker 3: of course, was Tanya Plebusek saying that it's never been
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  Speaker 3: a better time to be a first home buyer. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I would suggest it's never been a worse time to
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  Speaker 3: be a home owner, because despite what Matt, this is
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  Speaker 3: a way of saying, equity is in the negative for
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these first home first home buyers. So
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  Speaker 3: I'd probably put it to you, Michelle, I mean, what
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  Speaker 3: do you think you should be doing with the decline
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  Speaker 3: in housing, a lot demand for housing.
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  Speaker 4: We've got loads of thoughts, loads of courts on this. Look.
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  Speaker 6: I am a renter because I am one of those
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  Speaker 6: people that missed the boat when you know it was
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  Speaker 6: time to invest in. So I cannot get in the
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  Speaker 6: property market now. So I'm what they call a rent investor.
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  Speaker 6: So we rent and we invest. That's what our financial
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  Speaker 6: planner told us was better to do, because we were
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  Speaker 6: never going to make the money that people are making
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  Speaker 6: of property, like you know, people like you, David Elliott
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  Speaker 6: or maybe you, James, I don't know, may have made
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  Speaker 6: because you made a smart decision twenty years ago. I
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  Speaker 6: have to invest, and that's how I'm going to earn
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  Speaker 6: my money in the future. But look, I do think
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  Speaker 6: what gets really frustrating, what's really frustrating for me and
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  Speaker 6: a lot of young people is the constant chitter chatter
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  Speaker 6: about housing and the constant chats about rates and the
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  Speaker 6: constant talking about it, because it does put pressure on
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  Speaker 6: people to make them believe that the only way they
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  Speaker 6: can be successful and can contribute to community is to
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  Speaker 6: own a home.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think that that's true.
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  Speaker 3: But that's because it's for the you know, for the
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  Speaker 3: last two hundred and twenty five years in Australia, you
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  Speaker 3: have even been given land to build your house or
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  Speaker 3: to build.
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  Speaker 4: Yours every not every place in the world.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a new phenomenon here for us here in
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  Speaker 3: Sydney that there is going to be a complete generation
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  Speaker 3: of renters. But I can tell you that it's there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing like going to sleep in the house that you want.
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  Speaker 3: That is something that is very, very special. But you've
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  Speaker 3: also got to appreciate the fact that you know where
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  Speaker 3: because we're living longer and we've got to make sure
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  Speaker 3: that that super innuation is there to cover the rent
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  Speaker 3: when you're no longer when you no longer have an income.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting you raise SUPER because the ABC did an
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  Speaker 2: article recently with a surveyed young people and sorry renters,
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  Speaker 2: and three out of five renters said they don't believe
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  Speaker 2: they'll ever own their own home. Pauline Hanson, of course,
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  Speaker 2: is talking about freeing up people SUPER for this purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Here's some of what she's had to say recently.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of austrainers are doing it tough now and
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  Speaker 5: struggling to pay their mortgages.
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  Speaker 8: In some ways, I feel that you should give them
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  Speaker 8: their money now and let them help them with the
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  Speaker 8: cost of living.
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  Speaker 1: It is their money, David. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: Super is necessary because without compulsory SUPER, people will not
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  Speaker 2: be disciplined enough to say for their retirement. But when
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  Speaker 2: people can't own their own home, she's got point.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, but but giving them super, which they could
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  Speaker 3: blow and let's face it, a lot of them will
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  Speaker 3: blow it. We have a you know, there is a
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  Speaker 3: lot of financial illiteracy here in Australia, but giving them.
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  Speaker 1: There and that's just in Canberra and.
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  Speaker 3: That's just starting. But giving them their SUPER is like
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  Speaker 3: giving them their holiday pay at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 3: year and saying you're not going to get any holidays
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  Speaker 3: this year. I mean, there is a reason why our
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  Speaker 3: workplace relations includes things like compulsory superannuation, includes things like
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  Speaker 3: long service leave, includes things like annual holiday leave, because
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: we have to make sure that we prepare. Your working
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: life is a journey, and at the end of it,
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  Speaker 3: it's got to include a bag of money so that
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to be a burden on the tax paper.
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  Speaker 2: But what good is that if you've gone most of
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  Speaker 2: your adult life never owning your own home.
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  Speaker 3: But as all just said, there's this whole generation. Now
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  Speaker 3: I'm not critical of them that are going to be renters,
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  Speaker 3: so giving them their super if they're still going to
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  Speaker 3: be renches, what are they going to do with.
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  Speaker 6: But I do think look, I agree with what you're saying,
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  Speaker 6: but I do think you shouldn't be able to have
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  Speaker 6: access to your super just for frivolous things or just
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  Speaker 6: because cost of living is a bit hard. But I
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  Speaker 6: do think you should be able to access it for
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  Speaker 6: things like investment and property should be one of those things,
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  Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, what if you
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: don't even make it to retirement age and so you've
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  Speaker 6: been like squirreling away squirreling away, screwling away, and you
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: never had the opportunity to own your own home. And
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: that is an investment in itself, and that is superannuation.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: But at the end of your working life, when you
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: get your bag of money from superannuation and you've got
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: a bit of money and you've still got super, you
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: can use that super balance to get rid of your mortgage,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: to discharge your mortage, so you can actually use your
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: super right to discharge you more.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: I have to wait to retirement.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I worry about people getting access to their SUPERO. It's
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: not going to be much. If you're thirty years old.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: What are you going to do with fifty thousand dollars
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: manager's super? And this is why I've got enough complications.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: The other point with this housing debate is of course,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: at the main budget Anthony Albanez. He said, this budget
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: is focused on giving a leg up to first home
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: buyers right and at Pipasek, as you said, David at
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: the introduction there, she recently boasted there's never been a
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: better time for first home buyers.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: As Barnaby Joyce pointed.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Out, and we have listened to him in a second
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: since they've been giving these five percent deposit scheme, home
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: values have dropped, leaving many people with negative equity.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Here's Barnaby Joyce.
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: There's a lot of people who have jobs, Trudy, who
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: can't pay their house now. And of course if they
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: lose their house in a depressed market, if they're having
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: a chance to buy back in, they're going to actually
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: have lost equity. There's another stroke and genius of these
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: economic buffoons which the Labor Party is. So where's what
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: we're saying is, rather than lose your house, how about
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: you get access to the capacity to keep it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: It just seems when it comes to this topic, David,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: everything that does makes things worse.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Well, and we've been and this is us conservatives. Every
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: time Labour changes the superannuation rules, we scream blue murder.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: That's the voice of reason right there with Barnaby. I
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: note that he hasn't endorsed what Pauline said. That's because
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: he's an accountant.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: There you go, and there Treasury spokesperson.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: So I could watch that space.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about job interviews for a second.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I've got twin twenty one year old sons, one of
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: whom went for a job interview recently and he came
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: downstairs and I said, is that what you're wearing?
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: I bet you did.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: He looked at me like.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: There's a guy in Perth who went for a job recently.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: He works in the disability, mental health and aged care
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: sector and he says he was shocked when he turned
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: up for a group interview and many of the job
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: applicants were wearing tracksuit pants. He said, one person was
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: wearing gym tights. Quite a few were wearing older casual shoes.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Have employers stopped caring what people wear? Are they not
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: allowed to actually consider personal appearance on discrimination grounds? I
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: absolutely agree with him that what you wear to a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: job interview is really important because what's that old expression,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: You only get one chance, Michelle to make a first impression.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: Look, I get what you're saying, but like a it's Perth,
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Sorry Perth.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, we've all been to Perth.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: No.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Look, I get what you're saying, but I do think
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: it's different times now. People wear more casual in the
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: way that they dress. Also, working from home, people are
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: so used to like not getting dressed up, and then
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: there's the other thing, like you're only used to getting
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: dressed up from the waist up because you're on zoom
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: meetings all the time.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: So you're a Waverley councilor right, so you need a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: new media advisor or a new office manager.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: And someone rocks up for the.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Interview wearing daggy tracking papers, you're not immediately thinking cool
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: two pans.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: And also I live in BONDI everyone wear.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Who knows I'm not buying what you're selling machine. Having
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: said that, the other day I walked from Parliament House
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: in Sydney to my office in Kent Street, I realized
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I was the only one in a tie. So yep,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I'm happy, no one. I'm happy for the white collar
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: working fashion to be to be dumb down a little bit.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: But in my house, I don't even let my sons
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: go to the RSL club without a collar on, because
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I just in case they're greeting a veteran. And there's
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: no way I would give a job to anybody that
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: turned up to my workplace with with with tights on.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: No way in the world. If you can't afford a
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: cheap suit, well then you know, go to the Salvation
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Army and try to get one. They'll make you look respectable.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: No one wears a suit anymore. And I do think
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: that life has become more casual. People don't dress up
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: as much. People go to their jobs. They work in advertising,
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: they work in all these big kind of ticket jobs,
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: and they wear shirt.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I remember, I remember a bloke turned out to my
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: mother's funeral with that much. I I remember a bloke
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: turned up to my mother's funeral in sand shoes, and
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I was absolutely horrified, absolutely horrified. We've got to have
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: just a little bit of standards, still a little bit.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: There's two things aside from the first impression, right to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: dress up for a job interview shows that you are
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: making an effort. But if you just lob up in
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: old shoes or gym tights or tracking pants, it looks
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: like you just rolled out of bed and you don't
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: unity well.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: It depends what brand it is.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: But here's the other thing.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Right, if you're going to employ someone to help you
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: in the Waverley Council, you want someone who's got judgment,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: who's got discernment. And if they can't work out what
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: is and is not appropriate for a job interview, if
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: they can't work that out, do you really trust them
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: to make decisions on your behalf if.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: You give them a job.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Int you look, I think it depends what the job is.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day. I think there's a
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: lot of jobs.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, I work in radio and it doesn't matter
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: what I wear at all.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Well, that's always.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: If I lived in Waverley, I'd be voting Greens at
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the next collection.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, now you take that back.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I'm joking.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: We know you're joking.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: We know you're joking. Okay, let's move overseas.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Now we're going to talk a bit about Trump, because
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: you know, it's not a day in news unless we're
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: talking about Trump.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: We all love a little Trump chat.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: So Trump says the US will reduce the joint military
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: exercises with key ally South Korea. I found this so interesting.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: He has a couple of reasons for this. One of
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: the things he said was the drills are expensive. He
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: says it sends a hostile signal to North Korea. Because
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: you know, he's just all of a sudden really good
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: friends with Kim Johnton.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: That's really nice of him.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: And he's frustrated with the lack of support with ARAM,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: which I think is probably the key one with South Korea.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: What Does this say about the US's commitment to South Korea?
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Do you think, James?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I think this says that the US expect their allies,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: whether in South Korea or in Europe, to take some
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: responsibility for their own defense. For seventy two years, so
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: this isn't something that America has just been doing. Since
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Trump's been present for seventy two years, the US has
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: been effectively guaranteeing South Korea's security.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I checked this afternoon.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: South Korea spent how much you reckon of their GDP
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Do you reckon they spend on defense?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I reckon it was probably about one hundred.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Dollars two point three percent sport on David. So the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: US are spending billions. It's about three billion dollars a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: year that's on military salaries, facilities, and maintenance in South Korea.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And they've been spending money for seventy two years plus.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: They lost thirty two thousand lives in the Korean Wars.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: They expected some help with Iran, as you said, Michelle,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: South Korea said not interested. And on top of that,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: South Korea aren't spending that much money on their own defense.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: So I don't think Trump is wanting to abandon them.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: But I do think he's wanting to poke them the
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: same as he did with the Europeans, to say, hey,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: stop taking us for granted.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I think listen, I don't apologize or defend Donald Trump
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: that often, but on this occasion, I certainly see his
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: point of view. I certainly see the why he's electorate
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: is getting sick of it is why American taxpayers who
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: are seeing infrastructure in cities falling to pieces, and yet
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: they're spending money to prop up a country that really
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: isn't that grateful, and let's face it, for seventy five
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: years that alls they've done is rely on the United
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: States military. Sure, let the Chinese and the North Koreans
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: and the Russians all know that the US seventh Fleet
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: is only a couple of days away, but you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: the Koreans have to be weaned off this.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: The biggest thing too, is have currently got twenty eight
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: thousand US troops station there, and I think it's proximity
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: to like those areas is very important and integral for
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: the US as well. But I get what Donald Trump
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: is trying to do here, but you do at some
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: point have some responsibility and the US has taken responsibility,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: whether they wanted to or not, they have been responsible
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: for a lot of the global policing.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I think it's funny, right everyone, So you
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: mentioned global policing. I was waiting for you to use
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that phrase because people accuse America, they think they're the
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: global police. And then the moment the US say, well,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: we're not defending you guys both ways.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: And but it's not only that, but why does the
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Americans have to be responsible for the relationship between two
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: foreign countries.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: But that's because they take that on.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: It goes beyond the firepower. It's just the diplomacy as well.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, if the Koreans and the Japanese could behave
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: themselves and have a nice friendly relationship like neighbors do, well,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: then maybe the Japanese can provide a little bit more
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: security in the region, and maybe they could talk to
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: the Filipinos and maybe they could have a better relationship.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: The how it works, it's just not works under an
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Elliot government. It will work that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Way, David.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: While we're talking about world security, NATO have got some
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: interesting situations because of Turkey, right, Yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And I'm fascinated with this one. So so Turkey, who
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: is the only Muslim, the only Islamic country in NATO.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: And that's fantastic. It just goes to show what a
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: pluralistic organization NATO is have now kind of decided that
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: they're going to go back and have a similar, in
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: fact identical treaty with Islamabad and read so the Pakistanis
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: and the and the Saudis are going to have a
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: very very similar relationship. And it's called the Mecha Well,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know if this was colloquial, but it's called
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the Mecha Joint Defense Agreement. Now for me, that would
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: be like calling something the Vatican Treaty. I mean, does
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: that mean we all the Catholic countries get together and
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: have their own treaty as well. So we've got to
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: really work out who Turkey wants to be branded with, because,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: as it says in my good book, you can't serve
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: two masters. So they're either going to serve the Islamic world,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the Arab League and their relationships with the eastern side
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: of the Eurasian land mass will be or they're going
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: to stick with their friends in NATO. Now we all
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: know that up until the current Turkish administration they've been
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: very Western eyes. That occurred after the First World War
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: when they realized that they'd been sold apart. But this
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: is a very very dangerous situation. So I mean, I
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: don't know if you've traveled in that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: Part of the world, yeah, Silberty, Yeah, I mean my
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: parents lived in Saudi Arabia. I've been to Saudi Arabia before.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: Like I am fully across like a lot of these
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Arab nations. Look, I think this is a major strategic
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: development and we should be keeping our eyes on a
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: particularly Pakistan with access to nuclear I think that is
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: something we should one hundred percent read as about. But
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, you know, we're part
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: of Orcust, We're part of five Eyes. Well, all these
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: little countries have their own little allegiances. So I don't
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: know if I see it as too much of a
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: bad thing, because as Western countries were always saying, you
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: guys should really take care of yourselves a.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Little bit more, and then when they do, we go,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: but not be too buddy buddy pop.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I think it's a terrible idea from the get go.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think Turkey should ever have been part of NATO.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Turkey a because Hey, guys, always.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I still call it the Ottoman Empire.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I think Turkey is fundamentally culturally and religiously different to
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the rest of Europe.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think it should have been part of NATO.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: However, that ship has sailed now they've developed this treaty,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: as is said, with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, who are
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: a much better fit for Turkey culturally and religiously. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: as you said, David, you can't serve two masters. At
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: what point does Erdigon, who fancies himself as the leader
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: of the Islamic world, at what point does he decide
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that the interests of NATO and the interests of this
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: new partnership have suddenly gone in different directions And where
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: does his allegiance lie.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: And for NATO, I mean Turkey.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: You've got the second largest army in NATO, and NATO
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: was sitting here thinking to you, if push comes to.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Shove, which way do these guys go.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: That's not the sort of people you want in a
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Western alive.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. But also remember, yes, yes they
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: are all three Islamic countries, but they are very different
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Islamic countries. The Turks are Turks the Saudis are Arabs
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and the Pakistanis are more of an Indian Persian time,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: and they've never got on. And I think it would
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: have been safe for Turkey to be in a bilateral
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: agreement with Saudi and I don't think the Americans would
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: or the rest of NATO would have had too much
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: of a problem with that, since they've always been using
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Saudi basis whenever there's been problems in the Middle East.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: But bringing Pakistan in, with their relationship with China and
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: their antagonistic relationship with India, that will are some of
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the NATO's members.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: You were singing Donald Trump's praises just a moment.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: If declear yourself a massive Trump fan, Trump has actually
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: been encouraging this new alliance between the Saudis, the Pakistanis
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and the Turks. Do you think Trump is seeing this
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: as an opportunity for him to withdraw a little bit
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: from the Middle East and maybe this new group will
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: oversee security for the Middle East. I don't think that
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: would be a smart idea, but I.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Don't think that he would trust the Turks to do that,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: and I certainly don't think that the establishment in the
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Republican Party would I think he'd be slightly comfortable to
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: alleviate the American obligations to the surrender them to the
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Saudis and maybe the Jordanians. But you know, there's this
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: other little problem in there called Israel and the Jews,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: and the Jewish lobby in the United States is always
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: going to be putting pressure on the Americans to make
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: sure that Israel has defended the protective and rightly so.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: And that is something that I admire about the Americans
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: is that they've always looked after the security of Israel,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: and they've argued about it, they've obviously criticized it. But
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the piece that we have in the Middle East from
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: one day to the next is always going to be
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: because of the rest of the Arab league knows that
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Israel does have a big brother.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Well, while Donald Trump is trying to keep the world
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: in order, he's also got plenty of problems at home,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: not least of which are illegal migrants. Now, ICE, that's
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Immigration Customs Enforcement, have been pretty heavy handed in trying
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: to round up illegal aliens. We've had a few people shot,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: plenty of people tasered. But ICE have just announced that
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: maybe they won't have to shoot or taser people who
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: resist their enforcement. They've got a new device they could use.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: It's a glove that delivers an electric shock. He is
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: a BBC report on this new technology.
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: Ice agents in America are getting a shocking new device
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: to help them to control detainees, special gloves that can
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: deliver painful electric shocks that will subdue individuals in less
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: than three seconds. They look like ordinary gloves, but once
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: they've switched to electrical mode, they can deliver up to
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: three hundred and eighty volts, which, according to the manufacturer,
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: can stop people being able to perform coordinated muscle movement.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: All right, so it seems pretty crazy, but that's a
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: lot less of a shock than a taser.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: So would you rather be shot.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Tasered or have someone gently and lovingly touch you with
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: a glove that momentarily immobilizes you.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I'm in favor of this. I think it's fine about.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: None of the above. Thank you very much, know about that.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: That would be so good. I just love to help
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: how people like, do you want to be shot?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Or do you just want to be lovingly touched with
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: a glove that have electric in it?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Way, you've got to have some sort of ability to
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: compel those who are a calcitran.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: I get that, but it does say do not use
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: on children, pregnant women, the elderly, or people with disabilities.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: So I'm pretty sure it's not as tame as they
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: think it is. And I think a lot of people
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: have concerns around the fact that it could cause quite
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: a month a large amount of pain without even leaving
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: a visible injury. So could it be abused, Yes, absolutely,
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: this could be abused.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I met Michelle, you're in a pisa. I mean,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: we've got I used to. I used to have one
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: of them on a little ring when I was a kid,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: you know, and you shake the hand and the buzz.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: It's not a cloud device. So we've got pepper spray,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: we've got tasers, we've got handcuffs, but you.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Know, you know that that stuff is coming. If someone's
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: wearing a glove, you don't know that that's happening.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: But no one's going to die from these gloves.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: You don't know that. We just don't use on pregnant
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: women and children.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't know the pregnant women in a headlock. You
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be in a headlock either.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Listen, there's a former police minister. I'm I'm happy for
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the police and the agencies and the security groups to
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: have anything that is going to be a better option
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: than pulling out a Smith and Wesson. I mean, anything
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: that's going to be an opportunity. They're dealing with bad people.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: They're gonna have to submit.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Not all of them are bad people.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Well, the people that they that they have suspicion about
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: are going to obviously react, so they're not They're not
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: They're not going to you know, Nana Jones down the
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: road and tasing. But these people are These people aren't
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: the most.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: How do you.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Suggest that I steal with people who? I mean, these
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: are people in America illegally.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: If they removed, how do they.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: Deal with not all of the people who have been
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: shot were proven to be there illegally, name.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Three, But let's not argue that because that will go
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: down a hod No, no, no, anyway. Should they have
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the ability to use a device to yes, of.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: Course, But I think, like I think, when you use
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: another device, like you know, well, when you're pulling out
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: a gun or when you're pulling out a taser or
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: peppers ray or whatever, you kind of see a no
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: that that's coming out, there's some kind of warning. But
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: if they're wearing these gloves and you don't know what's
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: happening and then all of a sudden you get this shock,
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: I do think that that could probably be a little
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: bit more dangerous.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: The way they describe the gloves right is so if
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you're wearing this this glove, let's.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Listen to how the manufacturer is described. I'm sure they've
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: really kind of sugarcoated it for us.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: We're going to ignore Michelle Stephenson's cynicism and we're going
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to talk.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: About this like adults.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: So they put the you grab you the glove, right,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: So the glove does not work through clothing, So presumably
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: they could manhandle you and they could say, hey, if
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: you don't cooperate, we're going to zap you and.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: I'm going to touch you.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: To you, so then they could just move it down
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to as long as they make contact with your skin,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: So they could literally move it down and grab your
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: hand and they press the button and then you get
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the zapp So it's not like it would sneak up
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: on you and you'd be warned before they did it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not into this one at all at all,
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: They wear it to a dance, all right, Well I
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: think they should have it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Listen, we're going to go to a break in a second,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: just before we do. Last week, during a discussion about
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the lawn Ceston and Murham Bidgee councils considering a four
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: day working week, I inadvertently attributed a statement from Murham
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Bidgie Council to the Lawnsesston Council. While Murran Bidgie has
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: agreed to a four day work week, lawn Seston abandoned
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: their plans due to backlash. Happy to clear that one up.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break now. When we
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow, including
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: of course a massive story in the AFL Sydney Swans
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: under allegations of sexual assault that's dominating the papers, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: we'll talk.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: About that next. Welcome back to the program.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's dominating headlines tomorrow, and
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: there are some big stories in the papers, not least
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: of which the one surrounding the Sydney Swans. We'll show
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you the front page of tomorrow's Heralds Son. Of course,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the Swans are a Sydney team, but footy is massive
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: in Melbourne. This is how they're covering it. Sex assault
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: probe rocks Swans. I'll just read you the dot points
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: at the top there. Police swarm CBD hotel after reports
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: of serious incident, woman hysterical in foyer amid claims of
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: damning footage, Disappointed and shocked, Sidney may bench key players.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Here's how the article reads.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Police are investigating an alleged sexual assault involving Sidney Swan's
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: players at the Pullman, East Melbourne early yesterday, with the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: club considering standing them down. Isaac Heeney, Chad Warner, James
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Jordan and Riley Biss were among players questioned by police
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: over the alleged assault. After The Herald's son exclusively revealed
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the bombshell allegations, the club spokesperson confirmed several players were
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: involved in an alleged incident. Now, obviously, details about this
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: are still not really known and questions are being asked,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: so there's not much more we can really put on
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: that other than I expect that story to dominate headlines
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: for at least the next few days. That's a big,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: big story in football.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Definitely.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: Let's go to the Daily Telly now because there's mosques
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: call muted.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: It's on the front page.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: Of course we do have the Swans as well, but
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: just on to the left of that, we've got a
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: controversial push to broadcast the Islamic Call to prayer from
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: loudspeakers atop La Kember Mosque has hit a major roadblock,
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: with Canterbury Bankstown Council officers signaling they cannot support the
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: plan in its current form. Council staff have informed the
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: Lebanese Muslim Association and there's been a big topic.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: In that area recently.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: I know there's been a lot of debate around it,
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: and I'm actually quite surprised about council here. I mean,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: as a councilor myself, I know a lot of these
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: arguments can become quite heated and it can be really
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: tough to make decisions, even if you believe they're the
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: right ones. So look, I think this is going to
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: be a really interesting one to follow, and particularly for
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: council officers that the.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Timing of this is really interesting and probably coincidental. But
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: of course Andrew Bolt last week had some footage from
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the secretary of the Lebanese Muslim Association talking about the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: reason for a call to prayer, and as Bolt reported
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: and he wrote about it in the Herald's Sun this
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: morning as well, that the secretary of the association said
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the call of prayer is to ask people to respond
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that they accept Islam and if they don't, the options
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: are you pay a tax or we go to war.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And Andrew Bolt was expressing disbelief that this had been said.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: So it's just interesting timing that now the Council has
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: come out and said we ain't doing this.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I grew up there. I grew
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: up in Canterby Banks Down and it's a lot different
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: to the place that I grew up with. But it's
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: a gutsy move by the council are going to I mean,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of the politicians around there, and
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: you know they are scared witless of the Islamic vote
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: because it's up to a third depending on where you are,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: it's up to a thirty percent of the of the
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: electorate identify as Muslim. But then you've also got a
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: situation where not all the Muslim community wanted. They know,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: they probably would be like a lot of lazy Christians
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: who are terribly fussed when church bills go off either.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: So I'm glad to see that the Council has done
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: the right thing by its broader electorate. I suspect that's
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: not the end of it, though it takes some That
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: takes some election.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: We have the interesting thing about this, Michelle.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, you work in councils, so you'd understand that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the dynamics of this. They had three hundred and twenty
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: nine formal submissions about this proposal, three hundred and twenty
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: nine of which three hundred and twenty eight were against.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: So it would be hard for counsel to ignore that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: No, they can't ignore that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: And look, at the end of the day, this isn't
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: something that you could quite honestly go ahead with. You've
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: got you've got noise issues, You've got not everyone is
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: from that religion, Like you know, in my neck of
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: the woods, if you know that people from the Jewish
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: faith were out there and espousing you know, Judaism on
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: loud speakers for everyone, it just wouldn't fly.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: And I don't think that it should.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I reckon you're right though, David, this we ha heard
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the last of this.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Well, the front page of the Australian should put the
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: fear of God into all those people that thought that
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: the changes to capital gainst tax and negative gearing was
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: going to benefit them. I mean, weren't these changes to
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: negative gearing capital gainst tax are going to make housing
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: affordability a little bit easier for people that were renting.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: But the front pages, of course, brace for an extra
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: thirty percent on your rent, And I'll read the first paragraph.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Rents are projected to stare by as much as thirty
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: percent over the next two years to compensate many landlords
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: for the loss of property tax concessions that Jim Chambers
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: and Anthony Albanizi abolished. Now, blowing out budget predictions and
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: stalking fears of further inflation are the name of the game.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: And I'll draw everybody's attention to a paragraph towards the
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: end of that story. Opposition Treasury spokesman Tim Wilson said
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: the Albanese government was quote dangerously tolerant of inflation. And
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: that's exactly where we are at the moment. We know
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: this is this will this this is certainly should be
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: putting the fear of God into people. The Australian Well
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: covered this story before. It highlights the fact that that
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: sometimes the sometimes the cure is worse than the symptoms.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And I think that this situation will drive renters nuts
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: because it will give landlords every excuse to ramp up
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: the rent and they will be the renters that the
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: tenants are certainly going to be in a position where
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: they'll get they'll have to they'll have to reduce their
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: spending eels.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, like Irant, we
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: are already overpaying, Like the rent is already to high,
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: and I don't think that you can quite honestly keep
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: raising that rent because at the end of the day,
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: no one's going to be able to afford to do anything.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: We've got a large homelessness contingent because people can't afford
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: to rent.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: But if you can't afford to rent, where you're going.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: To go exactly That's what I mean.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: So I think at the end of the day, we
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: need to like look it away to kind of cap friends,
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: not in a greens way where we just.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: You know, stop them. But I do think we have
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: to have a bit of ConTroll.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: There's a headline Liberal Way councilor suggest rent stop.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: You heard it first, like that, let's go to the throat.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: She was only joking.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of the Townsville bulletin
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Drone danger in our skies closure curtains, North Queensland's.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Raft Base exposed.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Unidentified drones have breached restricted airspace over Raft based Townsville,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: exposing a massive national security concern right in our own backyard.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Just seventy two.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Hours after the federal government was warned that northern bases
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: were completely undefended, a chilling drone incursion was confirmed over
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: our shared military civilian airport on August thirteen. And of
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: course the reference to close your curtains is a shout
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: out to the advice that our military on basis have
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: been given if drones are flying across the base, close
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the curtains. And when you close the curtains, the drones disappear.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: You can't see them exactly.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, when I was the Prisons Minister, we had
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: to deal with the fact that drones were going over
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: prisons and dropping contramand into the prisons. This shouldn't be
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: seen as anything new. There there are there is technology
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: out there. They have guns, radar guns that can bring
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: them back.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: It is airspace, right, so it does have to be
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: a bit controlled, like they have a similar issue just up.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: In Newcastle as well.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: So I do think there is there is a reason
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: to kind of have your eyes on this and kind
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: of be watching this.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Shoot them down, Well, they have shot them down. They've
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: even in Western Europe in the in Belgium, glove Jamn
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: in Holland, they actually trained birds of prey to take
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: them out. So they used to release them birds of
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: prey and they would go and grab the I mean,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they'd only do it once because they've claus
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: to get cut off.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: How funny warfare become? Now we don't have you know,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: supersonic this and super sonic that. We've got drones and
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: we've got eagles.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: We had pigeons in the first order to take the signare
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: the curry mouse?
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Now it's in the trought is he bust? Alleged thirty
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: million pig racket?
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I love this. A whopping thirty million.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Dollars in cash was allegedly smuggled into Queensland and frozen
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: meat products fraudently re labeled in what the state's corruption
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: watchdog has labeled across border pork racket.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Don't you love a crossborder pork racket.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: That's what I call bringing home the baker.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Very fringing over the bacon.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: There was a rasher. All right, we're going to go
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to a break.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: When we come back, a robber is caught by police
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: and as if that wasn't bad enough, he lost his
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: pants in the process. We'll show you next, Okay. So
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I've always known that EMUs can run. I think they
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: can do about fifty kilometers an hour, so they're quick.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I knew that.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: What I didn't know was that EMUs can swim. Check
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Out this mob of EMUs crossing the Murchison River in
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Western Australia. If you look at it first, you think
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: it's a lot Bess monster or four. But as people
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: recording this, the people were doing a cruise of the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: river and they saw this site.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: It's for EMUs who.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Had swum across the river, just casually making their way
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: out of the water.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Message.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: I mean it's not like, well they can't fly, can they? No,
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: so they're just amphibious.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Well, they've got incredibly strong legs, so apparently they're very
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: good swimmers.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: I not know that, No, I did not know that.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: What about you're going to give us some weird fact
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: about EMUs, aren't you.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Well, Emy and Laurente, I think, don't forget. This is
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: the place where they had the EMU walls in ninety thirty.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I knew twenty thousand was supposed to be shot by
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: the Australian Army and we only got nine ninety of them.
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: Because I wanted, because it was their land and when
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: they deserve Yeah. Yeah, So let's move on to the
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: next story because I love this. There's nothing more Japanese
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: than a human fridge. So Japan now has human refrigerators,
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: inspired by their vending machines. Too hot, get in the fridge?
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Why do we listen to this CBS reporter. They'll tell
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: us a bit more about it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: It is what it looks like, which is a fridge,
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: except as for humans. This is specifically for workers who
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: are struggling in extreme heat in Japan. It is also
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: part of that nation's ongoing efforts to reduce deaths from
• 46:40
  Speaker 10: heat stroke.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, did we really.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: Need to have a human David's nodding here because he
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: strikes me as someone who gets really hot.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you sweat a bit?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: After I've made the lawns, I can if I could
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: have one of them in the garage. After I've made
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: the lawns, I could go to the red fridge and
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: take the refer and then go into the human fridge.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: You know, what they're suggesting in Japan is that they
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: put these human fridges on wheels.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can wheel it around.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: So you could literally you could be sitting in your
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: lounge and in your fridge watching the game, and then
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: if you want to go into your bedroom to read
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: a book or something, you just get on and get
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: your wife to you in the fridge.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: In my wife doesn't need it. It's any other way
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: to get a cold shotter about us.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: What about air conditioning, it's doesn't it do the same thing?
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: It doesn't. This is fifteen degrees. Every father in Australia
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: is looking at that and thinking, thank god, I don't
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: have to have my house at fifteen degrees anymore.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: But then they're talking about it as a vending machine.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: So what you'd have these things in the streets and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: you'd go and I makes the money.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: So you could sit in the fridge.
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: I will say, if you've been to Brisbane, this would
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: absolutely make sense because the humidity in Queensland.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I would sit in a fridge.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I can't see it taken off myself, but anyway, I.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Think it's a great idea.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course you do.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: What do you got, David tell us about robbers?
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm as a former police minister. This one fascinates me.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: So we've got some overlay on this one. And we
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: have a two day standoff in Salford in the United
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Kingdom where an offender, an alleged offender I think we
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: have to call them these days, was actually found sleeping
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: after the police, the Greater Manchester Police, had been tracking
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: him down for the last forty eight hours. There was
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: a roof awakening where they actually got up there and
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: woke him up from his little nap on the ceiling.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: There it was, and of course because they took his
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: pants off. Now, I just hope he, for his mother's sake,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: he had clean underwear on. There's no way if he
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: didn't have clean underwear on, every mother in Australia, in
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: the United Kingdom is going to highlight the fact that
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: that's the reason, the very reason.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: So if I'm the magistrate, I am not finding him.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not jailing him. I am deciding he has been
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: humiliated enough. He will probably never misbehave ever again after
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: that ordeal. Lesson learned, I reckon, I.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Agree, I totally agree.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: All right, David. Great having you on the Late Debate tonight.
• 49:01
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• 49:03
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  Speaker 1: Good Night,