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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers/Eagles Matchups · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: You always prepare for, I don't know if you say
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  Speaker 1: best case or worst case, but you prepare for him
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  Speaker 1: to play, right? And he's a great player, and we
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  Speaker 1: certainly don't want to be caught off guard if he plays, right?
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  Speaker 1: And so we have to have that mindset. And then
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  Speaker 1: we adapt either way. I think a big part of
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  Speaker 1: that is, you know, how do you call the game,
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  Speaker 1: take one in there versus not. So all those things
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  Speaker 1: factor in. But the way I've always approached it is
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  Speaker 1: I always prepare for the best players being ready to
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  Speaker 1: be there and being available.
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  Speaker 2: There's defensive coordinator Giro Avero saying, hey, we're preparing for
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  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley.
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  Speaker 3: If we don't get him, hey, we'll adjust to that.
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  Speaker 2: We get Damian Pierce, but we have to be prepared
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  Speaker 2: for Barkley. Seems like the intelligent way to do it,
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  Speaker 2: but it seems like Barkley's an extreme long shot tomorrow
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: for the Eagles. It's Mac and Bone time. We are
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  Speaker 2: live from the Harris Cherokee Casino Resort. Their awesome sports
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  Speaker 2: book and one of these fan caves, man, right? Off
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  Speaker 2: from the sports book. Beautiful little spot with the three TVs,
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  Speaker 2: the bedding kiosk, and some amazing couches. And, Bone, you
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  Speaker 2: look very comfy in the reclining couch.
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  Speaker 4: I found the remote for the recliner here on the couch.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I'm good, man. I am good. You're in
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  Speaker 3: your happy place, man. You handle the show. I need
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  Speaker 3: to kind of adjust myself a little bit. What does
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  Speaker 3: this button do? Whoa! Look at that, man. Whoa!
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  Speaker 2: What a way to do a football weekend in this
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  Speaker 2: fan cave. A couple of things.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Marvin, is there a back massager.
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  Speaker 3: On here at all? Is there no button for back massage?
• 1:50
  Speaker 4: I want until Marvin's tired of us saying his name.
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  Speaker 3: I think right now. I think that happened already.
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  Speaker 2: It might have happened a half hour ago. All right,
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: so a couple of things. One is, Picante was giving
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  Speaker 2: us love. He's going to do his picks later. He said, man,
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: you guys, I'm jealous you guys are at the casino.
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: He might be here later. Well, I said to him,
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: I said, man, you've got to come over here. You've
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  Speaker 2: got to come to Harris. And he says, dude, I've
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  Speaker 2: been there twice already.
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  Speaker 3: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, why did I doubt you, you gambling
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  Speaker 2: savvy individual? Also, multiple people asking about my car, Black Beauty,
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  Speaker 2: and how she made it up the mountain. I was
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  Speaker 2: a little concerned about it, Bone. It's not the greatest.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the greatest shape in the world. That baby
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  Speaker 2: got it done in style, Bo. How about that?
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  Speaker 4: Every time my Waze app said car ahead on shoulder,
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  Speaker 4: I thought, here he is.
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  Speaker 2: You thought it might be me. It was chugging that.
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  Speaker 2: On some of the inclines, that baby was working hard.
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  Speaker 2: I had to go to the whip like a jockey
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  Speaker 2: in the Kentucky Derby.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, baby. Come on. Get up this hill.
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  Speaker 4: I had a great ride, Mac. And as always with me,
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  Speaker 4: I almost– hit one of the valet guys in the
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  Speaker 4: parking lot. Uh-oh, no, that wouldn't have been good for us.
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  Speaker 4: I said, why is this guy trying? We're not really
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  Speaker 4: valet savvy, are we, you and I?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, we're not valet.
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  Speaker 4: There's free valet here. I thought the guy was trying
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  Speaker 4: to steal my ride.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people out there trying to get rides
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  Speaker 3: like yours, man.
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  Speaker 4: And you told me that you didn't want a valet
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  Speaker 4: because you didn't want the guy to have to get
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  Speaker 4: in your car.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't want to. I have no door
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  Speaker 2: handle on the drive. I mean, I didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: subject anybody to that. All right, let's talk about this.
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  Speaker 2: I said, why is this guy trying to get in
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  Speaker 2: my car?
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  Speaker 3: He's here to help. He's here to help.
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  Speaker 2: Never seen this before. That's a big tie. You get
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  Speaker 2: grade A treatment, man, here at Harrah's. It's an awesome place.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this matchup with the Eagles. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so every Friday at this time, we have the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Matchups you feel good about, matchups you don't. I want
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  Speaker 2: to hear from Panther fans on this. It's obviously the
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  Speaker 2: type of game, Bone, where, you know, Jalen Hurts now
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  Speaker 2: out with the blood clots, all the other injuries. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of matchups that I feel good about and
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  Speaker 2: we should feel good about. What's the first one that
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  Speaker 2: pops on your mind where you feel like, man, this
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  Speaker 2: dude or this aspect of the Panthers could really thrive
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday?
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  Speaker 4: I would think that the chess match of Devin Lloyd
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  Speaker 4: versus Tanner McKee in that important battle will go the Panthers' way.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have much fear, Mac, of even though the Panthers'
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  Speaker 4: defense still has a lot to prove, I think this
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  Speaker 4: is a good get-right situation situation although they've been playing
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  Speaker 4: better since week one, this is a good get-right situation
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  Speaker 4: for the Panthers' defense all across the board. The Eagles
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  Speaker 4: are so banged up. This is a good spot, I think,
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  Speaker 4: for the Panthers' defense to really show something. I think
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  Speaker 4: this defense is going to— I mean, how? If they've
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  Speaker 4: contained Bijon, they've done a great job on Gibbs. Secondary
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  Speaker 4: had their problems, but they did a great job on Gibbs.
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  Speaker 4: I would think that they can do some stuff here
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  Speaker 4: against Philadelphia. I think this Panther defense is going to eat.
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  Speaker 4: I would start with the defensive front. It kind of
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  Speaker 4: feels like Phillips is going to play. Princely is in
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  Speaker 4: the top five in pass rush win rate, having a
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  Speaker 4: good season. Pat Jones is solid. Derek Brown could have
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  Speaker 4: a big day against this injured Philadelphia front. Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 4: This could be a dominant.
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  Speaker 3: You get Turk back, Bobby Brown. I think those boys
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  Speaker 3: could ball, man.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good point. This could be one of Derrick
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  Speaker 4: Brown's dominant days this week. We've been waiting for him
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  Speaker 4: to look like all pro Derrick Brown or pro-baller Derrick Brown,
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  Speaker 4: I should say. This feels like the week. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: you're right. He hasn't had that dominant day yet. I
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  Speaker 4: think this could be it. I mean, you look at that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the interior, heck, everything from left guard over
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  Speaker 2: to right tackle is injured. It's banged up. Or you have.
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  Speaker 2: You have Lane Johnson who retired. I mean, it's so
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  Speaker 2: many guys in there that are not their starters. The
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  Speaker 2: Eagles ran bone for 22 rushing yards last week without Saquon.
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  Speaker 2: They're down to their fourth string running back. All these
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  Speaker 2: guys on the offensive line that are out. The Panthers,
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  Speaker 2: on the other hand, last time we saw their defense,
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  Speaker 2: gave up 46 yards on 15 carries to Jameer Gibbs.
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  Speaker 2: I would be shocked if we don't shut down the
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  Speaker 2: run tomorrow. Absolutely shocked.
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  Speaker 3: Sunday, too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Sunday. We're definitely going to shut it down tomorrow. Mac,
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  Speaker 4: any concerns I have would be on the other side
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  Speaker 4: because the Eagles' defense is still formidable. Panthers' offensive line
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  Speaker 4: is still a problem in a lot of areas. Any
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  Speaker 4: worries I have is on the other side.
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  Speaker 3: But the Panthers' offense, like, if we believe it's all that, like,
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  Speaker 3: are we going to be scared of this Philly defense?
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  Speaker 4: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like, that's the thing is this is not years past offenses.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't Air Reich. This is not even last year's
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  Speaker 2: Panther offense.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I specifically meant the offensive line, not Bryce and
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  Speaker 4: the receivers. And also, the offensive line's not been great
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  Speaker 4: and hasn't affected Bryce at all.
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  Speaker 3: So it shouldn't really matter. That's the amazing thing about it.
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  Speaker 4: Bryce doesn't need an offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: So what?
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  Speaker 2: Is it Jalen Carter? You have mentioned his name 700
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  Speaker 2: times this week. Is it that simple, Bone, that you
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  Speaker 2: just feel like, He could be in game-wrecking mode. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he kind of was last week against Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they don't have much to hang their
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  Speaker 4: hats on for this weekend. Like, their hope is in
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Carter. I don't think it's going to matter, but
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  Speaker 4: if you had to pinpoint one area that they can
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  Speaker 4: believe in and rally around, it's that dude. But is
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  Speaker 4: he going to be able to do enough? To make
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  Speaker 4: up for everything else, it's hard-pressed to see that.
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  Speaker 2: I look at what this Eagles defense has done, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: the last two weeks. They haven't given up a ton
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  Speaker 2: of points, right? But Stafford and Lawrence threw for over
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  Speaker 2: 300 yards each. And I'm going to tell you, Bryce
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  Speaker 2: Young is playing just as good as both of those gentlemen. Like,
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  Speaker 2: matter of fact, I would argue he's playing better than
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  Speaker 2: Stafford has, right, for much of this season. I think
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Young– can keep it going. I think he can
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  Speaker 2: keep it going this week. Coker coming back, too.
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  Speaker 3: Coker's back, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, we'll see about Tremble and Waller. You know, a
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  Speaker 2: little nervous about those guys. They were limited yesterday. Both
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  Speaker 2: have different type of feet injuries. But I just think
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Young, you get Moten back on the right side,
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  Speaker 2: I think that will help. The good thing about Philly is,
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  Speaker 2: and Nolan Smith, I think the Georgia guys, Bone, are
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  Speaker 2: the guys you worry about the most on their defensive front.
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  Speaker 2: You already talked about the boogeyman, Jalen Carter. I'll throw
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  Speaker 2: in Jordan Davis, local kid. You know, we know him
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  Speaker 2: well here. Mountain of a freaking man. And then I'll
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  Speaker 2: throw in Nolan Smith. Nolan Smith is the only edge
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  Speaker 2: rusher with a sack.
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  Speaker 3: He has two.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think it's a matchup, Bone, where, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we get Moten back. You're going to have Walker probably
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  Speaker 2: on the left side. And I feel like you'll kind
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  Speaker 2: of sit Freeling out with that knee injury. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like this is one where you don't have to worry
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  Speaker 2: about I hope I don't regret this. I often regret
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  Speaker 2: comments I make on Fridays when Sunday happens. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't think this is a scary matchup for our tackles.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, it ain't like Aiden Hutchinson.
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  Speaker 3: That one was scary.
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  Speaker 4: That was terrifying, especially when he was running right past
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  Speaker 4: Stone Forsythe. I mean, just not even trying to make moves, Matt,
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  Speaker 4: just running right by him. That was an issue, but. Again,
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  Speaker 4: it didn't matter. Panthers still won the football game.
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  Speaker 3: They did.
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  Speaker 2: And the Panthers, I mean, how much help? Wherever Hutchinson was,
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  Speaker 2: that tackle was getting help all night. I think now, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: I think now the double teams have to be Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Carter on passing downs. I think you've got to double
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  Speaker 2: him inside. I think you can leave the tackles more
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  Speaker 2: isolated this week.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see. We'll see how Moten plays coming off the injury.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess there's a little question there.
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  Speaker 4: One of the big concerns is the Matt Kearse being
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  Speaker 4: as high as the– Levels of the Mac curse being
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  Speaker 4: as high as ever this week. We are pandering up
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  Speaker 4: at a sports book. What could possibly go wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Does that double the Matt Curse chances? Has that been
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  Speaker 2: proven scientifically, Bo?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, based off my performance last night, I'm undefeated in
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  Speaker 3: this house. You're good, baby. You're good to go. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to stay in this house until I'm staying here
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  Speaker 3: until tomorrow. You rolling solo, baby. Yeah, man. You rolling solo.
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  Speaker 3: What are your plans? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm kind of scared.
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  Speaker 2: Your plans are to try to sit right there as
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  Speaker 2: long as they let you. I think it's probably going
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  Speaker 2: to be your plan.
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  Speaker 4: Marvin's going to have to drag my napping carcass.
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  Speaker 3: Out of here.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to have to get security probably at some point.
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  Speaker 2: Once they realize someone has rented this fan cave.
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  Speaker 4: Marvin's going to pull me out of here.
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  Speaker 3: What do you guys think about the Eagles' matchup?
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  Speaker 2: There also is the angle of, and I'll paraphrase one
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  Speaker 2: of our texters from earlier, Bone, that said that this now,
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  Speaker 2: they think this is now like a must-win game.
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  Speaker 3: Like if they are a.
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  Speaker 2: Team, the team that we think they are and can be,
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  Speaker 2: you have to win this game without Jalen Hurts, with
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  Speaker 2: a backup QB, and then all the other injuries on
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: that offensive side of the ball. Do you view, like... Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you can't say must win because that would then mean
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  Speaker 2: the season's over if we were to lose. Like, must
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: win for the Dodgers last night, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But is it– how would you describe it then, Bone?
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  Speaker 2: If it's not must– because I get what he's saying. Like,
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  Speaker 2: how would you describe the importance now of winning with
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  Speaker 2: Hurts and all these other dudes injured?
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  Speaker 4: It's not must win in the conventional sense because must
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  Speaker 4: win to me means your season's.
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  Speaker 3: On the line or it's over. There's a long way
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  Speaker 3: to go. If they lost, they could make.
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  Speaker 4: Up for it. So I don't think that's the best
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  Speaker 4: wording of it. I would say a gotta have it game,
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  Speaker 4: a no excuse. I don't know what the wording of
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  Speaker 4: it is, but this is now, it's gone from, hey,
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  Speaker 4: they've got a chance. A couple weeks ago we thought, hey,
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  Speaker 4: maybe they've got a chance against Philadelphia. Well, the way
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  Speaker 4: it's played out now, this is their football game. There's
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  Speaker 4: no excuses to lose this game.
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  Speaker 3: You know what this is?
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  Speaker 2: This is a Scooby-Doo meddling kids game.
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  Speaker 3: That's what this is. This is a Scooby-Doo special.
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  Speaker 2: All right, this is the type of game where the
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  Speaker 2: meddling kids have caught, the meddling Scooby-Doo gang have caught
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: the bad guy, and they go to the Panthers, and
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  Speaker 2: they try to rip that mask. You know how in
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  Speaker 2: the Scooby-Doo episode, they would always rip the mask off
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  Speaker 2: the bad guy at the end of the episode? They
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  Speaker 2: are going to try to rip the mask off the Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: Are you frauds, or are you really the team that
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  Speaker 2: can take the next step and win this division with
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  Speaker 2: actual winning record and maybe advance in the playoff? And
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: if we– the Eagles could be the Scooby-Doo gang and
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  Speaker 2: just rip the mask off and say, my God, we're
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  Speaker 2: missing everybody and we still beat you.
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  Speaker 3: You're fraud.
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  Speaker 2: You aren't who people think you are. Does that make
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: any sense? Like Zoinks, dude.
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  Speaker 3: That was a long way to go to describe this game.
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  Speaker 4: I thought you were going to have some brilliant football
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  Speaker 4: point and it's your Scooby-Doo special.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if that worked or not. That's got
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  Speaker 3: to be your thing now. That's all I got, though, baby.
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: That's your thing now.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: It's like Panthers– I believe in my heart. First of all,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: you're getting healthier. That's another thing. But I believe in
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  Speaker 2: my heart you're taking another step. Every year under Dave Canales,
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: they have gotten better. And I believe you were watching
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  Speaker 2: them do that. Yeah, they've still been inconsistent. But these
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  Speaker 2: are the type of games where you can prove you're different.
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  Speaker 2: On the road, you're expected to win now. You're trying
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  Speaker 2: to win two in a row, which last year at
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  Speaker 2: times felt like it was mission impossible. Go get this done.
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  Speaker 2: And to your point earlier, I don't even want to
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: style point analyze this. Are you punching the couch here?
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  Speaker 3: I guess I am.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very fired up. I don't want to style
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  Speaker 2: point analyze this. Like, just go get a win. Like,
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  Speaker 2: for example, if we would have won the Cleveland game
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: when we finally got the lead in that game, only
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: to give it up, right? That penalty was heavily involved. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if it's 21-18 and we win. You
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Just win it, man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think we're at a point yet where
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: we're trying to go in on the road and no
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: matter what's going on with the team, have to have
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  Speaker 4: a dominant performance. They have to win, but if they
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: win 21-20, I'm not going to sit here and say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: my God, as long as they win the football game,
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  Speaker 4: we'll figure it out later.
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  Speaker 3: Can we go back to Scooby-Doo for a second here?
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  Speaker 3: Scooby-Doo was the bomb.
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  Speaker 2: That's my favorite cartoon when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking about this on my way here yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny you bring up Scooby-Doo on my long drive here.
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking about Scooby.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, who wasn't?
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  Speaker 4: What I was thinking about was– Is Scooby-Doo the real–
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: you know how there's this big true crime boom where
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: documentaries and people love true crime? Would we have true crime,
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  Speaker 4: all these things, that we watch if it wasn't for Scooby-Doo?
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  Speaker 2: You think there's some serious cultural importance of Scooby-Doo that
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: doesn't get mentioned? Scooby-Doo set the tone for what the
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: true crime space is.
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  Speaker 3: Not Scrappy-Doo.
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  Speaker 4: I never trusted Scrappy-Doo.
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  Speaker 3: Did you? You don't like Scrappy? I could take or
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: leave Scrappy. You know what I mean? We didn't need Scrappy.
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  Speaker 3: Who do we need? We need Scooby. We need Shaggy. Shaggy,
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  Speaker 3: very amusing. I got to be honest. We need Daphne.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to be honest. We didn't need Fred,
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  Speaker 4: did we?
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  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Definitely didn't need Fred. Because I thought Shaggy and Daphne
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: should have been a thing, and damn, Fred was in
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: We should probably go to break now. Or at least
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: start talking sports again for a minute. I'm trying to see.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: 704-570-9610.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Felipe says, what's our record after a bye? I can
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: tell you this. We can look that up. Canales' bone historically,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: or Canales' 0-2, which I think, now they were both
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: three-point losses. Kansas City in his first year, Saints on
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: the road last year. I think that might be why
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: he changed the schedule this week. He said he had
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: been talking to fellow coaches around the league about how
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: they handle coming off a bye. I think he is
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: being proactive and looking to tweak things and maybe get
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: a different result.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: That's good that he's not stubborn. Again, he's shown in
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: his time here that he is not stubborn when it
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: comes to these things, whether it's the play calling, the scheduling.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: He listens to his players. He's very proactive back in
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: making adjustments.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I'll try to look up what are– I don't know
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: if it matters what all-time our record is at. I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: remember Ron Rivera had a hard time after buys for
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a while there. I do remember that.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Then they said buy. That was definitely a storyline. Bryant's– Okay,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: there you go. 46. All right, so not great.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: So, again, like, all these things are wrapped up into, like,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: maybe it's a sort of game. Panthers past bone would lose.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Prove you're different. Prove you're different. Let's see.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Big Tech says all the pressure is on the Panthers
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: to win. All the Eagles injury, it's close to a must-win,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Tech says.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: 13 and 18 all time, if that matters. Okay.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: People saying mean things about Velma. We don't have to
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: be mean to Velma.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: All right. She was a key to solving the cases.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I will say that.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: They all played their role.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: She was a key.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Because Shaggy was eating the big giant sandwiches. Fred and
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Daphne were flirting. If it wasn't for Velma, do you
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: think they would have got the cases solved?
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: She was the analytics of the operation. The analytics.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Are we trying to act like Velma's not hot here?
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: Because get a grip.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Velma's hot. Okay. All right. Everybody's got their own taste.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Everyone's got their own likes. How about that?
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: She's a popular Halloween costume character these days.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: There you go. Okay, Fitty.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Fitty, is Mrs. Fitty dressing up or Miss Fitty? You
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: aren't married yet. Is Miss Fitty dressing up as Velma?
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Why don't you suggest that?
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I might just do that, Mac.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you might. I think that might excite you.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: All right, anyway, let's take a breather before we get
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: ourselves in trouble here. 7045709610. Keep those texts coming, everybody.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Let us know what you're thinking about the game. When
• 17:31
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• 17:34
  Speaker 2: We certainly got to tell Lee where we're hanging. I'm
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: sure he will enjoy hearing that. Lee Sterling, our show
• 17:40
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• 17:44
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• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Doobie doobie doo, where are you? We got some work
• 17:56
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• 18:03
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• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Good producing there by the Fit Dog holding it down
• 18:09
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• 18:12
  Speaker 2: boys Mac and Bone are live from Harris Casino Resort
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: here in Cherokee Casino Resort right here in Cherokee, North Carolina.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: We're in the fan cave right here adjacent to the sportsbook.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: We're having a blast. So thanks to everybody making it possible.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I got Byron out here, got everything set up.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Showtime.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Way early showtime. Got everything set up way early this morning.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: They've given Marvin the task of making sure we don't
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: break anything. I'm convinced that is what he is here for.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: So far, so good. But we've got a long show
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: And Fitty is getting plenty of support, Bone, from Velma Nation.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: A lot of Velma fans. that appreciate her. Apparently. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: do not think it's all about that. Tara's been Velma
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: for Halloween before. Yeah, that is. Now I think about it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: That is a popular costume for the ladies.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: And I've been Scooby.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Remember, I was Scooby last year at Street Turkeys. Y'all
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: got to do tandem this year. Oh, yeah. Tandem. You're Scooby.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: She's Velma. Work that out, baby. I'm working on it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's work on helping y'all win some money.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Bone hit a nice parlay last night. Let's get you
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: some picks from our expert on the show who joins
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: us every Friday, Lee Sterling, six out of seven winning
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: weeks right now. He's got a college football 50-unit game
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: of the year on Saturday, so you know this is
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: a good week to check in with him and get
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: his selections. Let's talk to him right now about a
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: bunch of games here of local interest, and he's going
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to tell you how to get his game of the week,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: which is Packers and... Cowboys, and he's also going to
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: tell you how to get that big college pick this week.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: He is Lee Sterling from Paramount Sports, ParamountSports.com. Lee, how
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: are you feeling on this football Friday?
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: I love the intro with, you know, Scooby-Doo. I mean,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: bring feedback. My two daughters would be sitting in the
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: kitchen watching Scooby-Doo. What do you guys want for breakfast?
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: And they're like, Scooby snacks, of course.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, man. Scooby-Doo rocks. No
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: doubt about it. All right, Lee, let's get into these
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: picks because if you're going to be able to afford
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Scooby Snacks for your kids out there listening, you might
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: need to hit some picks this weekend.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to Duke, North Carolina.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: This is a game that's very interesting because Duke slipped
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: up last week. UNC got a really big win, so
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I think there feels like there's some intrigue in this matchup. Duke, though,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: is a three-and-a-half point favorite. What do you say about
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: this one?
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they did slip up, but They got hoodwinked
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: by the winds, and they tried to do a little
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: bit too much. UNC quarterback Billy Edwards isn't real good,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: and he's going to throw interceptions. You've got to give
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: him different looks, put him in some third-long situations. That's
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: why he moved around a couple different schools. Duke just
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: hand off the ball here. Just run it right at
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: North Carolina. Short passing game, I think that'll be enough.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I like Duke here. I think they want to cover
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: this game 24-17.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Lee, what about Miami-Florida State here, this big rivalry game?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: What's the play here?
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Well, weather could be a factor. We're kind of waiting
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: on to see what's going on. Could be some rain
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: and some winds there. Maybe not as bad as the
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Nebraska-Indiana game last week. But it looks like Miami is
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: starting to get healthy now. And Florida State, you know,
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: second half of games, they just quit. Their defensive line
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: and linebackers just don't want to mix it up here
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: in Miami. They're ready for a 15-round bout. Mark Flesher
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: looks on top of his game again. And they have
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: a true freshman running back. Watch his kid, Jerrion Mallory.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: I think they're going to pound away and wear down
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: this Florida State front seven here that's 102nd against the
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: run here, and Mario's not going to hold back. Over
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: 120 recruits will be in the stands, so I like Miami.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: I think they pull away 42-14.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this could be one where Norvell's seat gets even
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: hotter after this one, no doubt about it. We're talking
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: with Lee Sterling, Paramount Sports, ParamountSports.com. He's going to tell
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you how to get his picks this weekend. Coming up
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: here in a couple minutes, he's also, as always, going
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to pick the Panther game for us before he goes.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about this late-night game in California for
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: the red-hot Demon Deacs of Wake Forest. Wake Forest right
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: around a nine-and-a-half-point favorite. Cal just pulled the upset last
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: week over Virginia Tech. Is this one where you feel
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: like West Coast could be dangerous for Wake or not really?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: I think so. A 10-30 Eastern start for the Deacons here. Cal,
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: I mean... totally injured last week and, uh, they clowned
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: James Franklin and who hasn't, uh, for the last couple
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: of years, but all of a sudden they're getting healthy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: They could get four or five starters back for this game.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: Doesn't make any difference who their starting quarterback is. Uh,
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: both guys seem to be able to do the job
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: here and they have the short passing game. They run that,
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: that stretch off tackle running zone play as good as anyone. So, uh,
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: We get their star running back. That could spell trouble here.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: I think Wake Forest is going to survive here 31-27,
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: but nine and a half points, way too much.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of feel you on that one. I do.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: We on the NFL side, Saints, Giants, Saints, one and
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: a half point favorites in this game. What's the play here?
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Jameis Winston was cold as ice last week. And then
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: the commanders allowed him to throw for almost 300 yards
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: in the second half. So, you know, he's a gunslinger.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: If he's hot, you let him, you know, operate. He's
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: going to do a number on you here. But I
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: think that New Orleans is going to come back here.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Tyler showed one of his worst performances here. that we've
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: seen in a while the last couple weeks. So it
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: looks like he's going to be able to go here.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: And I just think that the secondary will mix it
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: up here with their coverages. And I just don't think
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: that the Giants defense is going to be able to
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: get enough pass rush on Shug here. So I think
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: New Orleans here is going to make this NFC season crazier.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: I like New Orleans here, 21-14.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to Panthers this week, and then
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: we'll get to your game of the week. And you'll
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: tell everybody, I know you've got a huge college pick
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the fans should be interested in, but Panthers-Eagles. Now, this spread,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: earlier in the week, this spread, Eagles were the favorite.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: It's obviously changed now, Lee, in terms of the Panthers.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I think, is it Panthers 3, 3 1⁄2 now? How
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: far has it moved? And what do you think about
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: this one now?
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's up to 3 1⁄2 now. So, Eagles have
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: lost three in a row, and... you know, just made
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: a mistake. They played really, really well, deserved to win
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: that game, but you don't kick it off to the returner,
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: you know, with eight seconds to go. So they'll be,
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, there was some just crazy stuff happening. The
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: Washington Giants game, what were they thinking? Did they think
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: there was a double overtime? But now all of a
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: sudden it looks like almost everyone's gone. Hurts, it looks like,
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: will not play in this game. That's almost for sure.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: Offensive line, they've had guys retire, injured, traded, no protection there.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: The defense stepped up, but I don't think it's going
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: to be enough here with Coker coming back. So some
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: people say, you know, bye, not your friend when you're
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: red hot. But I think this team, this Panthers team
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: with all the weapons on offense, is going to be
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: a dangerous team here. So I think Philadelphia is going
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: to go on a long, long losing streak. It's three.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: It could end up seven, eight, nine. I like Carolina
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: big here. I think they wouldn't cover 30 to 20.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: There you go, Lee.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: There you go, Lee. There you go, Lee. Lee. Lee. Lee. Lee. Lee. Lee. Lee.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: You nailed your player prop last week. You had Jordan
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Love over passing yards against the Bears. Do you have
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: one this week for us? I do.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Justin Herbert, under 194 and a half passing yards. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: you're saying, wow, 200 yards. NFL quarterbacks should get that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: But when they finished the game last week, four rookies
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: were on the Chargers offensive line. You just can't. You
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: can't participate and play at a high level. Like at
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Justin Herbert, you saw his eyes. I mean, he just
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: did not want to go the distance it looks like anymore.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: He's quit. He does have two passing games above 200,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: but two are against Arizona and Buffalo, two bottom five
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: pass defenses here. Kansas City coming off the bye. We're
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: probably going to see an effort like they had against
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Denver in week one. They held... Denver's next just 115
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: passing yards. So I think Justin Herbert is in trouble.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: If they lose this game, don't be surprised. They make
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: the trade, and they just try to rebuild. I think
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: it's probably the way to go. So it's not worked
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: out there. He needs a new home. And I think
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: when you look at Justin Herbert also as a player prop,
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: let's say that he gets hurt. He's definitely not 100%.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: As long as he starts the game on a player prop,
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: The player prop is active, and he may not finish.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: They might pull him. He might go out injured. So
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Justin Herbert, under 194.5 passing yards. Don't fall for the trap.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Definitely makes sense.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: All right, Lee, before we let you go, got to
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: let you tell everybody, how did they get your Green
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Bay-Dallas game of the week, and how did they get
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: your big college play and all your plays this week?
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Packers and Cowboys, how big is this game here?
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Probably a must-win for both teams here. Packers can't keep
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: falling farther back from the Vikings. Vikings might be one
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: of those teams that reaches out and tries to land
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: Justin Herbert. So that's a big game. Cowboys, you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: the NFC East is a mess, so... They need to
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: keep winning. If you want to get this game, just
• 28:41
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• 28:45
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  Speaker 6: both in the same day on Saturday. So I love
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  Speaker 3: Awesome, Lee. Good luck to you this week, man. We
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: appreciate you as always. Have a good weekend.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: Okay. You too, guys. Take care. Be safe.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: There you go. That is Lee Sterling.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're a Canes fan, and it's Canes-Florida State weekend, Bone,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: in 2026. He's going to have a good weekend, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: have a feeling. Oh, can't have a bad one. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: hate what this game has become. It used to be
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: so freaking badass back in the day, man. I do
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: hate it. I loved what that game was with all
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the NFL talent, but, man, I just think Florida State's
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: about ready to be dump trucked. It used to be
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: a problem for both of them, a problem caused by
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: both of them, But right now it's on the Florida
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: State side.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And it's interesting what he said about Wake. And we're
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: getting ready to do the college football confidence conversation. Got
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to talk heels and Duke. Got to see if you're confident,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: if Fitty's confident. And I've got some great news for
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Team Spone that I think should be confident. I know
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that's going to make them real happy. But the Wake thing,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I kind of agree with Lee. I think it's going
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: to be a one-score game against Cal, and I think
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: this is– we've seen Cal last year. Cal beat Louisville
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: last year. They beat SMU last year. They pushed Miami
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: two years ago.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Damn near had them. There was a controversial call at
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the end of that game.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like wakes in for a dogfight, and this
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: type of game will say a lot about who they are.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: If they can just come out of there with a win.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not the sexiest win, but if Wake is
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: as good as we think they are, this is a
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: game that they win and don't look back on it. Although,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: the more I think about it, I'm a little concerned
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: about the short week, the hype of Wake. Cal's a
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: little frisky. We'll see.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: This is a tough spot for Wake.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Like, you know what? If the ACC goes ACC, you
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: know what happens. Cal beats Wake.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Like, last year, Cal beat two teams that were trying
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: to bolster playoff resumes in SMU and Louisville. Like, If
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the ACC goes full ACC, like Chris Rock's bid, if
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: that Tiger just went Tiger, if the ACC goes ACC,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you know it's like, because apparently we can't have more
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: than one good team in the ACC. So when a
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: second team starts to look good, by the law of
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the ACC, they must trip up. So I hope Wake
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: can avoid that this week. I really do. All right,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: we're live from Harris Cherokee Casino Resort. We're chilling in
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: the fan cave. These awesome fan caves are available to rent.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: here at Harrah's, right here with the sports book. Man,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: it's a beautiful time for everybody here. You've got to
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: look in to making the trip like we got to today.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But when we come back, though, we've got to do it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: College football confidence, Bone. Duke UNC, both fan bases confident
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: or not? We'll talk about that and more. Sports Radio
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: You know, you mentioned North Carolina, Billy Edwards. I mean,
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: just does enough, you know, doesn't do anything where you're
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: just like, is.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: UNC going to be able to run it though? That's
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: my question.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: I don't think so. I mean, I don't, I don't
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: think they would, they definitely weren't against Pitt, which is
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: one of, if not the best rush defense in the conference,
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: maybe right behind Miami, but Duke's like second Duke's the
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: second best rush team. So I would think that very
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: similar to the Pitt attack, you just put it in
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: Billy's hands and say, Hey, let's see it. You know, let,
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: let's see it happen there.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: And can you beat us? I don't know if you can.
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: So interested just to see that matchup. But that's exactly
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: where it is. Who can run the ball? Who can
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: stop the run? Which is crazy in 2026. That's what
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: we're saying about two spread teams here.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: That's Eric McLean on the Gramlich and McLean podcast. I
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: think the running game is majorly important, too. No doubt
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: about it. I'm not sure either team, Bone. wants this game,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Duke or UNC, on their quarterback's arm exclusively. I don't
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: think it's good news if it ends up like that
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: for either team. It is time for College Football Confidence
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: as your boys broadcast live from Harris Cherokee Casino and
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Resort and the Sportsbook Fan Cave. All right, let's start
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: talking about it. And if y'all want to check in
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: on the text line, we'll give you a shout-out if
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you're feeling confident. We've heard from a couple of angry
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: ECU fans, Bone, including Salty Pirate this morning.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: We will deal with ECU's blown 14-point lead and ugly
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: overtime loss to UAB next hour.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: We did it early. We'll do it in the next hour.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they are not feeling confident this morning. Bone,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: are you feeling confident? You've got the Nate Shepard questionable
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: injury situation. You've got the loss last week to Georgia Tech.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Has that shaken your confidence in the victory bell game
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: or no?
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: No, as long as Nate Shepard plays, I feel confident
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: that Duke wins. Eric McClain is talking about the importance
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: of the run game in this matchup, and that's true. Mac,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Duke is third in the ACC against the run. They
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: are second in the ACC running the football. UNC in
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: those categories is 10th and 15th. So if Shepard's good
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: to go, and it will come down to the run games,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I've got full confidence, both sides, that Duke is the
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: better football team stopping the run and running the football
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: in this game. And you're right, I don't think the quarterbacks...
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: They just have to not mess it up in this game.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Turnovers is the other big thing. It's not going to
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: be a high yardage quarterback game. That's not how these
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: teams are built. But if it's about the run games,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: and it will be, I have confidence in Duke on
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: both sides that they win this game.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Turnovers is the other one. Billy Edwards Jr.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: throws for more yards per game than he gets. He
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: made some big throws last week. He also had two
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: more interceptions. His interception rate is 131st in the country.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: There's only 138 FBS teams, and Carolina's that bad in
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: interception rate. I just– I don't– they don't match up
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: well in the run game and turnover department. I know
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: a lot– Now, if Shepard doesn't go or he's not healthy,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: then that's a big deal. That's the thing is how
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: effective can he be. I think we all think he's
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: going to play, but how effective can he be?
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: If he's healthy and he's the best player on the field,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Duke wins this game.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who like the Heels nationally.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I was listening– I was driving here, and I heard–
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Taylor Zarzer and Gino Toretto. I had no idea they'd
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: do a show, touchdown radio show. And I happened to
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: hear it on the way here. You find everything. They're
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: both out in the heels. And there's other people nationally
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: that think Bill Bell. He's clearly improved the program. But
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I think people are looking too much into last week's results.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I still think Duke's the better team.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: These games are often close, though, I will say. Oh,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a close game. I
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: don't think anybody's running away from anybody. I mean, this
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: could be like 20-19 or 21-20 or something like that.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Finney, would you argue with us? Like, are you feeling
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: frisky this week?
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I picked Carolina last night on the Heel Tough
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Blog podcast to win. I had the final score right
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: there where Bone was, 21-19. Because I look at this game, Mac,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: like a classic Bill Belichick game.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: What was he so good at at the NFL level?
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Take away the opponent's best player and make the other
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: guys beat him. Now, you're not going to take away
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Nate Shepard. You're not going to limit, you're not going
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: to take him to the point where he has like
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: 50 yards. Like, I think if they can hold him
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: like 125, I think it's a really good sweet spot
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: for how involved he is on their offense. And if
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: their other guys step up, their other guys make plays,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to like losing. It's a lot easier
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: to accept losing that way as opposed to him going
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: off for, some 200-yard game that's getting him a helmet
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: sticker on college football final, and his name still being
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: on the fringe of the Heisman conversation.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: The issue, though, is hold him to 125. That's a
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: low number, but you have to limit him also in
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: the pass game as well.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Had 90-something last week receiving.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: He had 190 last week in an off game for himself,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: so he could get 140 rushing, and he could end
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: up with 100 receiving for all we know. He'd end
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: up with 240 in the game, so Limiting him is
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: tough because he is a goal threat.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: If they do limit him, man, it's a different game.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Or if he's limited himself because of the injury. I'm
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: trying to see what Tar Heel fans are saying about
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: this one. Myron Goodman says, Billy Edwards still starting at
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: QB is crazy to me.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Why is that? He's got you in three and two. Yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: he made big throws downfield. He's flawed. But I got
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: news for Tar Heel fans.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Do they think O'Neal is, like, the next coming of
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Cam Newton or something?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Like, that's the thing. Like.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Every quarterback you got is flawed on your damn roster.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: If this is the one Belichick's choosing to play, what
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: do you think the other guys are? And Burgess is
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: just young right now.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: If you don't think this guy is good, what's the
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: other guy like? That's what I'm trying to say. Joey
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: from Huntersville says F Duke Bone. There you go.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: How about F Joey one time? AC's trying to start
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: a 49er chant with us.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: He's giving us 40.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: How about don't get beat by 40?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, is that the amount of
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: points you've given up the first half again?
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I hate saying that. I'm sorry, Niner fans. I'm sorry.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I can't have confidence in y'all against Temple. It's kind
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: of the point I've got to say something about. Oh, man.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Any other fans out there that want to say it
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: with their chest? Anybody feel like you want to call
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: your shot? I'll give you some fan bases. Notre Dame,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. BYU, I don't think, is in the same
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: stratosphere as this Notre Dame team. I don't think they are.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: They don't have L.J. Martin, their star running back. I
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: do not think Bear Bachmeier is as good as Carr.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: And I do not think BYU's defense is real good.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I do not think it is as good as the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: NFL talent-laden Notre Dame defense. Bone, you said something that
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: is perfect the other day off the air.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: You said BYU wants to– they succeed by playing football.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the same way Notre Dame has played in the last
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: couple weeks. Notre Dame now, don't look now, freshman Jonas
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Walton is running the hell out of the football. They're
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden getting a running game going. But
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you said they just don't do it as well. I
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: think Notre Dame's winning in Provo by double digits.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I really do, man.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be hard for a lot of
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: teams now under Marcus Freeman. Before Mac, it was an
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: athletic issue with Notre Dame. Can they compete with the
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: SEC teams? Well, they've upped their talent. They're really good,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: and you're no longer– When you're a school like BYU,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: you're not going to out Notre Dame, Notre Dame.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: They've got the scheme. They've got the athletes.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: These are not spots anymore that I feel that Notre
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Dame is going to trip up in.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: What do we think about this?
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: And this BYU team is overrated anyways.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: What do we think about– I kind of feel that
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: way too, especially without L.J.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Martin.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Like, that's their bell cow.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: But I've been wrong once or twice, Bone, once or
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: twice picking games, which is why my wife did not
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: want me to bet here at Harris. Bone's winning games,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: so maybe we need to listen to Bone. What do
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: you think then, Bone, if we're listening to you, What
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: do you think about the Tennessee fan, Jimmy, that says,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: he says, I don't even know why.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling we're going to upset Alabama. Do
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: you have any of those feelings or no?
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I have a feeling you're drunk, Jimmy. He is a
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Tennessee fan. The problem here is this. Alabama is coming
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: off of what they came off of. They're going to
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: be ready to go. And to compete against Bama and
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Q and Russell, you're going to have to score a
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: lot of points, right? Is Tennessee's offense with your guy
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: George McIntyre, can they put up enough points to beat Bama?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I can't see that happening.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: No, with either quarterback. And McIntyre's starting, but Brandon may
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: be available. I just don't. Their offense is, other than
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Bishop running the football, they're passing offense. I mean, McIntyre
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: had four yards last week, but he had two interceptions
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: against Arkansas last week. They barely beat the worst damn
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: team in the SEC last week. I can't get with
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: my man Jimmy. Follows Jimmy on this one.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Mac, remember when Josh Heupel first took over with Hendon Hooker?
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: They were ridiculous. What exactly has happened to the Tennessee
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: offense here under Heupel? They're not exactly as explosive as
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: they started.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Quarterbacks. Yeah, I guess. Faison Brandon's a rookie.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: And they don't have, they don't have that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: And I also wonder about the wide receiver playmakers that
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: they usually have too.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I just don't think quarterback position is, you know what
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: It's, it's, you got youth and then you have a
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: guy probably, it should be a backup probably.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: What about Indiana, Ohio state game this weekend? What do
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you think about this?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Probably the buck guys. I hate picking the buck guys
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: to win. Indiana does not. Indiana seems like they're a,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: at the risk of, of underestimating Cignetti, which should be
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: a crime, a felony.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Um, Indiana looks to tick off. You know what I mean?
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Just a step down from the dominance last year. I
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: still think they're a real good team, top ten team.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Isn't it telling that Vegas has Ohio State as a
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: three-and-a-half point favorite in Bloomington?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: So what's that tell you neutral site-wise? Yeah, they would
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: be neutral site.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: They'd be seven-and-a-half point favorites or so, you know, or
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: six-and-a-half if I do math correctly.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Who are we leaving out?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of big SEC games. We'll talk about
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: them later when Taylor Davis joins us. What do you
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: think about App, Bone? They're only a one-point favorite.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: First of all, Coastal's also not that great. This has
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: to be, I would think last week the elements hurt App.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: They're coming off the loss. It's a rivalry game within
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: the conference and the region. The spread is rather low.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: It's a point and a half for App on the road.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: This has to be, I would think, a bounce-back spot
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: for App here. This is a big game for Dow Loggins.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: That fan base is getting a little restless.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, they were fired up on Monday, man. The thing is,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: if you look at Malachi Singleton's start to the season,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: he was balling. I mean, three-yard games all over the place.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: So last week, it was a nasty weather game. He
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: deserves a mulligan, and I think he can make good
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: on that. Also, this is far from one of the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: vintage coastal teams, Bones.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? When Mullet Man was there
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: a few years ago. Who's Mullet Man?
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Chadwell.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Why do I always forget Chadwell's name? So, anyway, App,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: you've got to get right. I think you're going to
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: get right. Although, uniform advantage tonight, Coastal.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Those 90s unis, baby.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Wearing those mid-90s type throwbacks.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gracious. Looks like I'm watching TGIF.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Michigan Sean says, Michigan 12, Penn State 9.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: That may be too high scoring for this game.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if Michigan fans think I got any fight in
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: me going into this game, I got no fight in me, Bo.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: And I know Michigan and Underwood have problems, but I just,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I am a defeated little cat when it comes to
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the Nittany Lions. Yeah, your Ohio State, your Iowa State
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: team's not looking too good right now, is it?
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: They're looking like Iowa State East ain't getting it done.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: They're looking like Iowa State. I got to tell you,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: this looks way worse than Matt Campbell looked at Iowa State.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Willie P, Bone, the fighting Willie P's at the Grove
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: against Ole Miss. Willie P says Roberts is going off
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: for two bills again.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Is Willie P, is.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: This one where Willie P finally gets sad?
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: What do you think? We know how the SEC operates, right?
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: The teams that are rolling and they're on top, eventually
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: they run into something they can't overcome. And I think
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: this week is Ole Miss' week. to send Missouri back
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: to Humbleville. I think Ole Miss takes care of business
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: this week. Missouri's got to do to get their own
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: after what they've done the last couple weeks.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Missouri's a damn good football team. They at least have
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: gotten me finally to respect the Fighting Willie piece, whereas
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I thought they were kind of fraudulent. You know, fraudulent
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: ranked team and all that stuff. They have earned my respect. But, yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: at the Grove, that Ole Miss offense. I do think
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: this could be a fun one with a fair amount
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: of points because, like, let's not act like you can't
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: score a bunch of points on Ole Miss. You know
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: what I mean? But I would go Ole Miss on
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: this one. But good luck, P-Man. P-Man also, Bone, provided
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: a very big service on this show today. I forgot
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Charlotte FC was an afternoon game. So I'm on here
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: telling everybody tomorrow night, tomorrow night, that huge game in
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Philly tomorrow is 2.30. So Willie P and Ann will
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: be on there. It's 2 o'clock tomorrow. So I need
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: to pass that along because I screwed that up earlier.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: It's the weekend of Philadelphia, right? It's the– It's the Panthers,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: the 49ers, and FC.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: That is crazy. I wonder, is anybody going for all
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: three or at least two? There's got to be someone
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: that is going for the FC and the Panther game together.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: That feels like a job for Steven P.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Whitaker. Witt's got to be doing that, doesn't he? He's
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: in Japan right now. Oh, is he really?
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Here's my question about– we've got to take a break.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Real quick, why can Panther Steven Whitaker afford to go
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: to Japan, Germany, all these road trips, but for all
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: the home games he has to beg for free tickets?
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Why does that happen? Because he's a con artist.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Let's go to break.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: He's the ticket swindler, y'all. They're going to need to
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: make a Netflix talk about this man. All right, when
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: we come back, let's talk to a man who will
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: be on the sidelines in Philly. For Panthers-Eagles, Evan Washburn, CBS,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: joining us next.