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  Speaker 1: Here's our resident, Jim. Not in a hoodie today, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, not in a hoodie. He must have a
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  Speaker 1: big banquet to go into today because he is in
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  Speaker 1: a sport code and a snazzy shirt. This is Jim
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  Speaker 1: Bowden Front Office, unfiltered.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome Jim.
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  Speaker 3: What do you got for us today?
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  Speaker 4: Buddy?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, j Eric? How are you guys? This is the
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  Speaker 2: great time of year. It's like a holiday, right. I
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  Speaker 2: love the trade deadline. I love when we come within
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  Speaker 2: two weeks of all the action that's going to take place.
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  Speaker 2: And I love how the emotional swings occur in all
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  Speaker 2: the front offices as they get to the final couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks. It's always a fun time.
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  Speaker 4: What do you got, Jim?
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  Speaker 1: I saw you posted five trades?
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  Speaker 4: What is it?
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  Speaker 1: Five moves you'd like to see before the MLB trade deadline?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's jump right into it. Here you went
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  Speaker 1: Mariners and Giants matching up, and Hunter Goodman was on
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  Speaker 1: this list. But first we're gonna start with trade idea
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  Speaker 1: number one, which is Casey Schmidt and Eric Miller for
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  Speaker 1: George Kirby.
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  Speaker 4: Why does this make sense?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? So this is always a fun time of year,
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  Speaker 2: and I love engaging with the fans, the viewers, the
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  Speaker 2: listeners talking about trade possibility. So it all started when
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  Speaker 2: I had a conversation with Jerry Depoto, the president of
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  Speaker 2: the Seattle Mariners, and I asked him, Okay, what are
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  Speaker 2: you trying to do between now and the deadline? What
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  Speaker 2: do you guys need to do? And he was pretty clear,
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  Speaker 2: I need a right hand hitter with power because we
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  Speaker 2: just struggle against left hand pitching and I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: get another high leverage reliever that I can throw in
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  Speaker 2: that six or seventh inning. So it's a really hard
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  Speaker 2: thing to acquire. Right There's not a lot of right
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  Speaker 2: hand hitting bats out there that are available, and so
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  Speaker 2: I kind of looked at the Giants. Casey Schmidt, twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven years old having a breakout year. He's got nineteen
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  Speaker 2: home runs, going to end up with twenty five thirty
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  Speaker 2: before it's all all said and done. He also has
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  Speaker 2: positional flexibility right can play first, second, third, corner outfield
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  Speaker 2: at the age wherever you want to put him. That
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  Speaker 2: kind of fits what he was looking for. And then
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  Speaker 2: number two, Eric Miller, who has not giving up a
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  Speaker 2: run in his last nine appearances and he doesn't walk anybody.
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  Speaker 2: He hasn't walked anyone his last five appearances, and he
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  Speaker 2: punches everybody out. He punches out two out of the
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  Speaker 2: three guys that he faces. He's just locked in right now.
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  Speaker 2: So there's your right hand bat, and there is your
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  Speaker 2: you know, extra reliever that you're looking for. And so
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  Speaker 2: then you know, when I'm looking at it from the
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  Speaker 2: Giants perspective, how does that work? Well, look, it's a
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  Speaker 2: seller's market. You're gonna have to overpay you want to win,
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to make a bad trade to win.
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  Speaker 2: So I took one of their starters, George Kirby, and said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: what about that. If I'm San Francisco and I can
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  Speaker 2: get Kirby for Schmidt and Miller, I'm doing it, no
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  Speaker 2: doubt in my mind. Put him behind Logan Webb. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna trade Robbie Ray anyway. So I'm gonna need starting pitching.
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  Speaker 2: I get a young, controllable starter, I can afford to
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  Speaker 2: give him the long term deal that Seattle hasn't, and
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  Speaker 2: so I kind of felt like that's a deal that
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  Speaker 2: might work for both sides. Giants win the deal, but
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners get the two pieces they want and perhaps
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  Speaker 2: if they're the two pieces that Jerry thinks can get
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  Speaker 2: into the World Series, then making a bad shade like this,
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  Speaker 2: they already have five starters without Kirby, and they've got
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  Speaker 2: Kate Anderson coming, who has a chance to be a
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  Speaker 2: solid number two starter in the bai leagues. And by
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  Speaker 2: the way, he's major league ready. All the scouts that
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to says he's ready, and Jerry acknowledges he's
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  Speaker 2: ready as well. So at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: really you could add Kate Anderson, Casey Schmidt and Eric
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  Speaker 2: Miller for Kirby. Seems to make sense to.
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  Speaker 3: Me, all right, You actually, before we get to the
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  Speaker 3: next trade, you had talked about how trading a big
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  Speaker 3: leaguer for a bunch of prospects kind of works, And like,
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  Speaker 3: where's the who has the toughest job on a trade
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  Speaker 3: like this? Who has the tougher job the team giving
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  Speaker 3: up the control, not winning, but gaining a player who's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I've been in a playoff race for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I guess I can help you in years ahead, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of pissed I'm getting traded to a bad team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at these these kind of deals,
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  Speaker 2: you got to balance them, right. I Mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're so used to the buyers seller type of deals,
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  Speaker 2: but you know those days are kind of behind us, right,
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of times when you're buying, you're also selling,
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  Speaker 2: right because we're we've got one eye on this year,
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  Speaker 2: we've got the other eyes on the future. And then
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  Speaker 2: you've got to figure out what's best for your organization.
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  Speaker 2: You know. For example, for the Giants, if they were
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  Speaker 2: to trade Schmitt and Miller, are they better off getting
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  Speaker 2: three of the Mariners prospects or are they better off
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  Speaker 2: getting a young, control, controllable, proven starter, right, And that's
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  Speaker 2: that's what you got to measure. I mean, prospects are
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  Speaker 2: suspects until they become productive at the big league level anyway.
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  Speaker 2: And so in a case like Kirby being young enough,
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  Speaker 2: I think even rebuilding in San Francisco, which they don't
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  Speaker 2: even like that word, I think it makes more sense
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  Speaker 2: to try to get a Kirby than I do the prospects.
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  Speaker 2: And if I'm Seattle, I would much rather trade the
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  Speaker 2: prospects and keep Kirby if that.
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  Speaker 3: Is yeah, yeah, no, that's perfect. And I don't think
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  Speaker 3: Buster ever wants to rebuild. I think that's just out
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  Speaker 4: L your second mock trade.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the fact that trading a catcher,
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  Speaker 3: let alone a possible fifty to fifty five home run catcher,
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  Speaker 3: would be crazy. Talk us through the Hunter Goodman to
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  Speaker 3: the Red Sox mock trade.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm going to age myself. But here we go.
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  Speaker 2: So I started. I went right from college into the
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  Speaker 2: big league's front offices and spent my life there.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so the first team that I worked for was
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  Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates, and we were one of the worst
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  Speaker 2: teams in baseball. We're losing one hundred games a year.
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  Speaker 2: But we had one really good player and his name
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  Speaker 2: was Tony Pana. He was an All Star catcher. He
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  Speaker 2: was in his prime, he was in his late twenties.
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  Speaker 2: He had been to four All Star Games. And we
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  Speaker 2: traded Tony Painya and I sat there and I just
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  Speaker 2: hated it, and I didn't understand it. How can you
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  Speaker 2: trade a catcher that's also our best hitter. He's got
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  Speaker 2: an unbelievable arm, he handles the pitching staff well, he's
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  Speaker 2: high energy. He's the face of the franchise. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: he's the face of our media guide in yearbook that year.
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  Speaker 2: How do you do that? Well? The response back was, well,
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  Speaker 2: we get a gold glove center fielder and Andy Van slike,
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  Speaker 2: we get a catcher that can shut down the running
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  Speaker 2: game and Mike Levall you're behind them. And oh, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, we get a number two starter and Mike Dunn.
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  Speaker 2: And so what happened is that trade, along with a
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  Speaker 2: couple other trades that were made, you know, including a
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  Speaker 2: deal for Kyle Dravick and Jose Deally on for Bi Bonilla.
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  Speaker 2: There were three trades that totally transformed that franchise and
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  Speaker 2: made it contenders, right, And so all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: we're in the playoffs now because of those deals. And
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  Speaker 2: those deals are really painful. How in the world you
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  Speaker 2: trade a catcher that's got thirty home runs, that's your
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  Speaker 2: only all star of the last two year. How do
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  Speaker 2: you do it? Well, you only do it if the
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  Speaker 2: load coming back changes your future, because that's the only
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  Speaker 2: way you're going to get better. You're not going to
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  Speaker 2: do it just with the draft. You're not going to
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  Speaker 2: do it with international signings. You got to take your
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  Speaker 2: best asset and turn into four players or three players.
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  Speaker 2: What are the cases? So in this proposed deal or idea,
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  Speaker 2: just to throw at people, you get two starting pitchers
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  Speaker 2: for your rotation. You get a middle indfielder and then
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  Speaker 2: a catcher to replace Goodman who can at least start
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  Speaker 2: for you in the big leagues after the trade is made,
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  Speaker 2: and so you know, it's more about the concept than
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  Speaker 2: it is trading the catcher. But the Tony Payne you deal,
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  Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. I'll never forget how we took
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  Speaker 2: a one hundred lost team like the Rockies in Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 2: and tournament at contenders and it was deals like this,
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  Speaker 2: and they're painful at the time, and the fans don't
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  Speaker 2: understand it, and the front offices get the death threats.
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  Speaker 2: But the one thing that I learned over the years,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, the fans want to win.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they're going to care about the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day. And if your deals get you into the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: then they're gonna look back and say, yeah, we did
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  Speaker 2: the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: Jim, I just if I'm the Rockies, I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: under control for four more years, I just don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, I do get it. I
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  Speaker 1: can understand if he was a year or two away
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  Speaker 1: from free agency, but he's got four more years and
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  Speaker 1: the Rockies don't have anybody other any good on their
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have any I understand. I get
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  Speaker 1: what you're gonna say, Like, when you're.
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  Speaker 2: A year or two away, you're not going to get
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  Speaker 2: this load. You can't get this trade when you're a
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  Speaker 2: year or two away. You got to do it. When
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  Speaker 2: you're four years away. That's that's when you have to
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  Speaker 2: do it to get the return to make it worthwhile. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I get both.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, I I know, I understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's just if frockies have one asset and they better.
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  Speaker 4: Get a lot for it. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, let's go to number three, all right, And
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  Speaker 1: this one I understand even less. From the Padres side,
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  Speaker 1: it's Freddy Perolta to the Padres for Cash Mayfield. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if Cash Mayfield is any good. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who he is.
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  Speaker 3: Never heard of them. I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: But the Padres aren't.
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  Speaker 4: They're not.
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  Speaker 2: They're not a good team, Jim there.
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  Speaker 1: They can't hit, right, But so why would they make
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  Speaker 1: a move for someone like Freddy Perolta when they after
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  Speaker 1: the season and they can't get them a qualifying offer.
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  Speaker 1: They can't get a draft pick, and they're probably not
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  Speaker 1: going to resign them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have to look at it this way, right,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to go for it, right, if you're
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  Speaker 2: two games out in the wild card, if you think
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  Speaker 2: you got a chance to get a wild card and
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  Speaker 2: get in the playoffs, and that's what you want to
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  Speaker 2: do because you have new owners coming in here and
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to be sellers on August third. If
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  Speaker 2: you want to go for it, you can't make a
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  Speaker 2: big trade. You can't sit there and trade Ethan Sallas
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  Speaker 2: the catcher. You can't sit there and trade your best prospect.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't. And if you want to take a
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  Speaker 2: shot without giving up too much, Freddy Peralta might be
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  Speaker 2: a guy. If your pitching room thinks that they can
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  Speaker 2: make Peralta closer to what he was a year ago
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  Speaker 2: with Milwaukee, get him out of New York, get him
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  Speaker 2: out of the pressure, get him in San Diego, and
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  Speaker 2: if you think you're pitching people can get him back
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  Speaker 2: to where he was, take a chance on the rental.
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  Speaker 2: The price is cash Mayfield, who is a third or
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  Speaker 2: fourth starter at best. He's two or three years away.
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  Speaker 2: But if he makes it, it's probably a back of
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  Speaker 2: the rotation starter, right, At least that's the view then
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting from a lot of scouts that have been
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  Speaker 2: watching him closely this year. So what I give up
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  Speaker 2: a future third or fourth starter to take a shot
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  Speaker 2: on Parolta if I'm going for it, Yeah, probably because
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to trade for school Joe
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  Speaker 2: Ryan's not available. You know, you know I would do
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  Speaker 2: the same thing for, say, Kevin Gosman, right if you
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you can get Gosman. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you get Gosman for Mayfield. I don't think you
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  Speaker 2: get Clay Holmes for Mayfield. But you may get Peralta.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if you're going for it, that's the
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  Speaker 2: kind of deal you make. Now, if I were them,
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  Speaker 2: I would shop Mason Miller and I would see what
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  Speaker 2: I could get. I don't want a one for one trade,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't want to reverse the debris trade and
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  Speaker 2: go to the White Sox and get one of their
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  Speaker 2: shortstop prospects. I want four guys back, right, I want
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  Speaker 2: the Garrett Crochet deal. If I'm San Diego, and if
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees are or the White Sox are willing to
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  Speaker 2: give me the crochet deal. Then that's the direction I
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  Speaker 2: would go if I'm the Padres. Padres are not a
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  Speaker 2: good team, but there's a lot of teams that aren't
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  Speaker 2: good teams in the National League that all within a
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  Speaker 2: couple games of each other. You can get You can
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  Speaker 2: get a wild card spot in either league with bad
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  Speaker 2: teams this year. That's just a fact. So that was
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  Speaker 2: the thinking behind it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not even debate if they're a good team, playoff team,
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  Speaker 3: whatever they are. Aj Preller may not be at this
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  Speaker 3: job because the new ownership has it. We haven't heard
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  Speaker 3: anything from him. It's not like the new ownership's like,
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  Speaker 3: oh I love aj Preller, I gotta have him. Wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: this be the time for aj Preller to continue to
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  Speaker 3: do aj Preller things and trade and Ethan Sallas to
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  Speaker 3: take his one last shot with this team that he built,
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  Speaker 3: because if he doesn't put a winning team out in
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  Speaker 3: the field for the last sixty two games of the year,
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  Speaker 3: this ownership definitely won't be like we watched these last
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  Speaker 3: few games.
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  Speaker 4: Do we really like you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I can't trade any more of these top prospects.
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  Speaker 2: Here is so much different than it was, and you've
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  Speaker 2: got a problem you've got albatross contracts that aren't going
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  Speaker 2: to end well. I mean, Xander Bogertz already is an
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  Speaker 2: agent decline. You're not going to be able to move
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  Speaker 2: the contract unless you can attach to a Mason Miller trade.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, tell the Yankees, hey, you can add
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  Speaker 2: Miller for these three prospects, but you got to take Bogart's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, unless you can pull that off. I just
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  Speaker 2: don't think anyone's going to be willing to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I just wouldn't give up any more. I don't. I
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  Speaker 2: think the cupboard's already there, and the few assets that
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  Speaker 2: you have left there, I would personally be very careful. Again,
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  Speaker 2: the right play for them isn't to go for it
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  Speaker 2: this year. The right play is to do the absolute opposite,
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  Speaker 2: which is listen on Mason Miller, listen on Michael King,
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  Speaker 2: and be very open to trying to see if you
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  Speaker 2: can't get six or seven players back and quickly try
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  Speaker 2: to reboot this thing. In my opinion, that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: how I view it. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't do
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  Speaker 2: another Ethan Salas here. I just it's too painful watching
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  Speaker 2: James Wood and CJ. Abrams rake every single night to
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  Speaker 2: sit there and trade your next guy.
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  Speaker 4: Do the Royals with how loyal.
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  Speaker 3: They are as an organization, how loyal they've spoken about
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: people part with a Michael Waka And is this enough
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: of a move in the needle for them to say, yes,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: this is what will help push the Royals to where
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: we want to go.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: This was my favorite trade idea of the five. This
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: is the one deal that I looked at and I said,
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: you know what, I would do it on both sides.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: This was the only one that I sat there and said, yeah,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I can see this happening, and it makes a lot
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: of sense for both sides. Kansas City should be selling.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: They got no chance. Michael Waker is thirty five years old.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: And as much as I love Michael Waker, he was
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: an All Star this year. And he wasn't an All
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Star because he was representing the Royals. He was an
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: All Star because Bobbywick Junior was representing the Royals, so
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: he made the All Star team because people thought he
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: deserved to be on that team. He's still got that
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: great change up, He's still got that special downward plane
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: when you're ready to win. Michael Walker is not going
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: to be a Kansas City Royal and his trade value
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: will never be higher than it is today. That's number one.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Number two. You know, you got to figure out a
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: way to keep improving this offense and build around Carter
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Jensen and Jack Caglion. So I like Matt Shaw better
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: than the Cubs do. I think he's your answer at
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: second base. So you put him at second base, wit
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: it Short at mikel Garcia at third, Pascaino or Kagalion
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: at first, wherever you're going to go long term, that's
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: a pretty good infield. I think Matt Shaw is going
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: to hit. I think he's got power. He'd be a
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: good acquisition and Kevin on Contra for whatever reason. I
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: know his swing is a little bit long at times,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: but the Cubs never want to give him a runway
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: at the big league level. I don't know what else
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: he has to do to get the runway. But Kansas
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: City can put him in left field, and say, okay,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: you're our guy. And I just feel like, if you're
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, you can get two everyday players that are
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: non arbitration eligible, two guys that can start for you
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: in the lineup for a thirty five year old pitcher
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: that's not going to be there when you're ready to win,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense. And on the other side,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: for the Chicago Cubs, you already made your decision. You
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: extended Nico Horner, you signed Alex Bregman. That says goodbye
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: to Matt Shaw unless you want to use him as
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: a utility guy. And that's kind of a waste of
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Matt Shaw. Kevin Alcantra, you never wanted to give him
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a pathway now I know it. Suzuki and Half are free agents,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: so perhaps the plan is for next year. But you
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: got a chance to win right now. You got a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: chance to win, you know, get a wild card and
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: do some damage in the postseason. And you got a
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: thirty five year old pitcher on an affordable contract eighteen
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: million this year, but fourteen million each of the next
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: two years with that team option. To me, that makes
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of sense for the Cubs as well. So
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: that was actually one of my favorite deals of the vibe.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: It actually makes a lot of sense, Jim, Cubs, he
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: started pitching, and you're doing everybody. It seems like a
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: solid right. You're sending Michael Walker to a team that's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: trying to win. You send Matt Shaw. You get him
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: out of kind of utility purgatory for a guy who's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a first round pick, thought he was going to play
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: a long time for the Cubs, and then contry. You
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: give a chance to play every day. This is one
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of those deals that makes too much sense, so that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: means it won't happen.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Jim. That's that's right.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Exactly what I've learned over the years is that this
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: makes too much sense, so it will never happen. All right,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Let's go to your last one, number five. You have
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the Rangers acquiring Luis Arise, who I love for Dalton
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Pence and Ulfron cas Steele. I don't know who they are.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: You know more about them than I do, so please
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: explain why the Rangers and why the Giants would make
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: this deal.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Well, the Giants make this deal, and they win this
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: deal long term to get jo fran Castillo, who by
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the way, is a teenager and he's got a long
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: way to go. I get it. But he's got he's got,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: He's a high end prospect. I love him. It would
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: be a huge price. I think Dalton Pence is more
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: of a bullpen really restarting right now, but probably ends
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: up in the bullpen at some point. Uh But to
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: be able to get that kind of return for a
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: rental of Lewis Arise, uh Is, would be a really
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: nice return for San Francisco, you know. And I think
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the Giants, you know, obviously need need the expiring contracts,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: either extend or trade. I've always been a big believer
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: in that. Don't just let them walk for nothing. Texas
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: could use another battle. They are starting to swing the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: bat much better because they're finally getting healthy. Nice to
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: see Wya at Langford back raking. Now they need Corey
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Seeger back. But just to create more traffic, you know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: instead of all those Jock Peterson leadoff homers, maybe you
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: put a Rise at the top of lineup, let him
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: hit a single, and then let Peterson's solo homer become
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a two run homer. So it kind of made sense
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: for me. Arise has really improved defensively this year. He's
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: done a great job working with Ron Washington. I've actually
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: been amazed at how improved he is, so I think
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: that would be a really good fit for him. I
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: also think the Red Sox would be a really good
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: fit at second base in Boston because I think, you know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: with his bat control and back to ball skills, I
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: think he'd be able to pepper that Green monster and
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: left field. So I really like the fit in Boston
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: as well. But for this exercise, I sent him to
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: the Texas Rangers.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: A team that lost again last night.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: And you watched Kevin Gosman walk off the mount and
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw his comments, but it
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: sounded like possibly his last time pitching for the Jays
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: after a long run. Which directions you see the Jay's going? Obviously,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I think we can agree they're gonna be sellers. But
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: is this direction going to be the direction that, like, hey,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: you know what, we're winning again next year and we're
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: going to add so that we are in that place,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: or is it just expiring contracts and see you later.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we're going to reset for next year for sure. Yeah,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and we have money, by the way, So I mean
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Kevin Gosman, Shane Bieber, Dalton var Show. They got to
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: go between now and August third, all right, the expiring
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: contracts got to go. And this's gonna be enough teams
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: on Gosman, right, I mean Chicago White Sox. I love
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Gosman with a White Sox. I think it'd be a
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: really good fit for him. Gosmanould be a good fit
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: in a Lant. I'd be a good fit in Saint Louis.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of different places we can put Gosman.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I would take a chance on Shane Bieber if I
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: can be convinced that the medicals are fine, I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: he can be okay. You know, I saw him with
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a really good start last week and I was like, oh, okay,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: all right, And so you know, all these contending teams
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: need starting pitching, and Gosman and Bieber, if healthy, we
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: all know can at least pitch Game three, maybe even
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: better than that. And then Dalton varshow, I love the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: fit in Pittsburgh, let's go. I mean, Ben Cherrington, there's
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: your spot, dude. I mean that that team needs to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: improve the defense in center field. O'Neil Cruz can't play
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: center field and I know he's getting healthy, but we
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: got to stop putting him in center field. You can
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: put him in dh ll put him on the corner
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: if you want. Can't play center field, stop it. You
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: gotta help this pitching staff out. You gotta be elite
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: defensively up the middle. I love Dalton varshow to the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates. And although they don't have any money and
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: they can't add payroll, according to what Bob Nutting told
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: ben Cherrington that being said, Toronto has no problem paying
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: down money if they get the right prospects. That's the
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: other weapon they have besides Gosman, Bieber, varshow, Hoffman others
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: that they could pay down money to get better prospects,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: which I think they'll do. I think the other interesting
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: thing with Toronto for me is if I'm Mark Shapiro
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and Ross Atkins and I'm seeing all this in in
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Mason Miller, i gotta ask everybody, well you give me
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: for Lewis Barland, because my guy's having as good a
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: year as that guy is. What are you willing to
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: give me? You're gonna give me four pieces, like you know.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Let me consider that for a minute, because I can
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: get closers. And you know, I don't know if Lewis
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Barland's always going to be this impactful in that ninth inning,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: But boy, I gotta tell you, I mean I made
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a live in trading closers, Like I did it all
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: almost every single year. I had no problem bringing in
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the next closer to win the Relief Award the following year. Right,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I mean I sat there and traded Jeff Shaw for
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Paul Kronerko, turned him into Mike Cameron, turned him into
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Ken Griffey Junior. Right, I traded Jeff Brantley got Dmitri Young.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean I traded Dave Berber against Sean Casey, Like
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I never had a problem trading them and then replacing them.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And I think, I think, if I'm Toronto, I at
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: least want to check the market and kick the tires.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: But there's no doubt they have to be sellers.
• 22:56
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• 23:03
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• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier we were talking about the Blue
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Jays and all the players they have. They have Alejandro
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Kirk who signed to a long term deal. Valenzuela came
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: in and played really well for him.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Would they think.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: About I mentioned the Matt Shaw and Michael Walker and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you give guys an opportunity, would it would Vealezuela be
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a trade piece for the Blue Jays or Kirk or
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: vice versa. Trey Kirk let veal Zuela play because he
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: proved he could do it when Kirk was down. Would
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays think about moving one of their catchers
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: because catchers could be a hot market this year.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely would. I would definitely shop. I would
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: shop both. To be honest, I like both catchers. I
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: probably want to hold on to Alijando Kirk right I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: got to the World Series last year with him. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: probably want to reset this team and keep him there.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: But Vealinzuela was a great pick up. I remember when
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Ross Atkins got him, how excited he was because he
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: saw what he was going to do. And I think,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: if I'm a team out there that's always looking for
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: a catcher, like the Tampa Bay Rays who were always
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: looking for a catcher, or Aj Preller in San Diego
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: is always looking for a catcher, and you can't afford
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the or don't want to pay the price of a
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Hunter Goodman or an Ali Utschman, or or the catcher
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: in with the athletics. I mean, yeah, d alean Zuela
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: cost effective and give them an opportunity. Sure, yeah, I mean, look,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: catchers have are great trade value players, right, And I
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: remember back in the day when Jack McKean was running
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the San Diego Padres and he had Sandy Alomar and
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Benito Santiago and had to trade one of them, right,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a really good problem to have. So yeah,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I think if I'm Toronto, I'll shop both and I'll
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: see what I can get for each of them. But
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I would definitely be open minded to dealing one to
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: be able to get a better need that I have,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: maybe an outfielder that can smoke a little bit more
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: than what they're getting from their outfield offense.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: All right, that makes sense. That makes sense.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Now, Jim, we're going to get to some you're not
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: going to like as much you want the salary cap.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: You love a salary cap. You're the biggest salary cap
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: proponent in the history of the radio. Here's your quote.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it. One of the reasons MLB is
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: pushing for a salary cap was best articulated by a
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: quote by Lebron James, who is not the best basketball
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: player of all time. When referring to the NBA, there's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: been eight string years of different champions, James said, So
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: everyone feels coming in this season thinking this could be
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: our year. Every fan base feels like this could be
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: our year as well. MLB wants this, sure, they want this,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the NFL wants this, NHL wants this. But you know what,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the salary cab in the NBA only works when you
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: get guys to be former super team like Lebron. James
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: keeps switching teams because he wants to form a super
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: team in the next place he wants to go, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: he wants attention. Right, NFL has had multiple winners. The
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Patriots had a long run, the Chiefs have had a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: long run. The Eagles in a long run right now, right, hockey,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: everyone it's either Vegas or Florida that wins the Stanley
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Cup except for this year, which was Carolina. Okay, because
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of state taxes. They're complaining about that. So why is
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: it such a big deal that MLB gets a salary
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: cab and why were the fans so against this?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: On you, Jim, Yeah, look, I have no problem with
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: people's opinions. I mean look, I sat in the gair
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: for you know, sixteen and a half years, right, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you know, do I think it's fair. Let's let's fast
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: forward a minute to October, and let's just say the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Dodgers and Brewers are playing in the NLCS. Sorry, the
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Phillies didn't get there, Eric, because certainly they have the
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: top three pitchers to get there. But let's just say
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: it's Milwaukee in LA, who are the two best teams
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: right now in the league, and one team has three
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: hundred million more than the other. And let's just say
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the playoffs go exactly the way they did last year,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: where the Dodgers flex their biceps, they take their thirty
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: to forty million dollar a year players or seventy million
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: dollar year players, and they beat the Brewers. Okay, well,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: if I'm Matt Arnold who's won two Executive Year Awards,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: can I I don't have to be on even playing field.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I don't have to be within one hundred million of
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: your payroll. You can have five more twenty million dollar
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: players on me. I'll still beat you. But let me
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: at least be in the ballpark, right, I mean, let
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: me at least be able to spend close to you,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: so I can add. I mean, that's all. That's the point, like,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I don't need to have the best. And by the way,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't not how much money had you
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: could win anyway. I mean, look at Milwaukee, look at
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. I love it, smart people win. But how
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: many World Series as a small market team won in
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the last eleven years. I'll give you the answer, zero, none.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what we can talk about. How
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: great Milwaukee and Tampa is. We can do it. April, May, June, July, August, September, yay,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: come October. You know where I'm going to be at
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the World Series, Probably La or New York. Probably a
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: big market ballpark is where I'm going to be and
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: watching them hold up the trophy, wish champagne and congratulations
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: for four hundred and fifty million dollars you beat a
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar team. Congratulations, really proud of you.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: That's the argument. I just want to be in the ballpark.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Those years, how many of those small market teams have
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: pushed all in. How many of those small market teams
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: have said, oh, we shouldn't have pushed all in. We're
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: really hamstrung ourselves. They continue to not choose to push
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: all in and to choose to spend the money that
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: they're being given in what is supposed to be the
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: soft floor that other teams are sending them that money.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: So to me, when that argument, which I totally agree,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: you want to see plenty of and I have a
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: ring from the twenty fifteen Royals.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: We were a small team. We pushed in, we pushed it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Not in fourteen we lost because they traded for me
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: and not David Price. Not saying they had David Price,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: but David Price was available and they got a backup
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: catcher who played twenty four at bats. Like, I get
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: that part of it. But show me a small market
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: team that pushes the Rays push this year, the Brewers
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: pushed this year and it doesn't work, then I might
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: start leaning a little bit.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I totally agree with your point. And it's
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: hard because when I sit there and you ask the owner, hey,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: can I go get this fifteen million dollar player? And
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: they go, really, are you going to beat the Dodgers
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: if we do that? Like, well, no, okay, well why
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: don't I want to spend an extra fifteen million to
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: get the same result, Like, Okay, we might wait, we
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: might win a few more games and instead of getting
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: swept in the playoffs, maybe we win a playoff game
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: against them.
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  Speaker 4: Yay.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: G give the owners an incentive that, yeah, you can
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: actually win. Like, give them that incentive that when you
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: get to October, yes you can win two. You can
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: do it in the NFL, the NBA, and the NHL.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You can't do it in Major League Baseball. It's not
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: gonna have You may get lucky, don't get me wrong,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I get it, but in all likelihood, it's gonna be
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the teams that are sitting there with thirty million dollars
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: starting pitchers and thirty million dollars with the two three
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: four hitters, right, I mean in all likelihood. But I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: will say this, and I'm being totally honest here, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: am rooting for either the Brewers or the Rays to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: trade for Trek Schouoble. I am rooting for a scenario
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: where I would love to see Milwaukee Tampa Bay in
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the World Series. I think that would be great for
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the game. We'll be terrible for the owners in their
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: labor negotiations, but to see Misserawski and schooball going against
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers. Yeah, that would that would be fun. I
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: would like to see that, or to see schoobl and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: McClanahan going up against whether it's the Yankee, Seattle White Sox, whatever,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: it's going to be sure, I would love to see
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: that as well. And I get both arguments. I do.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I just as a former GM, I would have liked to,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: at least from a payroll perspective, just been in the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: same ballpark with the big market teams. That's all. I
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: don't have to have the same payroll. Just get me
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: within one hundred million, that's all.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Jim. One thing.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: First of all, the White Sox are not a small
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: market team.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: They just act like they are. They're a big market.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Chicago's gigantic. Okay, it's a gigantic market. So I don't
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: want to hear I hate when people say, oh, the
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: White Sucks are a small market bold what every word
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you want to put on big markets.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: It is not.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: It is not.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: They could be a big market again, it's it's all
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: about what they want. And also, the Dodgers were about
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: this far from losing the World Series last year, so
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it can happen. Okay, it can happen. The Phillies had
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: a chance to beat them. The Blue Jays should have
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: beat them. If you know, IKF gets a little bit
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of a better jump at third base, they beat them,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: So it can happen. Okay, I mean, listen, the Brewers.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I would love to see the Brewers in the World Series.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I'd love to see it be the Brewers and the Rays,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and then the owners would.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Be like, uh, what do we do here?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: So but well it happened, I don't know. I mean,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: we can root for it, not that we root for teams,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: but we'll see what happens. It's one of those things, Jim,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: we talked about this forever and unfortunately we're gonna have
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: months and months of time, so we're gonna have to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: have you on every day so we can argue.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: We can make this another network's channel. We can just argue.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: We can just argue back and forth for hours. It's
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: so fun to watch. Not anyways, thanks Jim, we appreciate.
• 32:48
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• 32:50
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