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165: Sister Wives Rewind - Brown Boys Do Vegas (S4 E7) · Reality TV Cringe

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Hello, and welcome to reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts,
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Delia here with my real tight homegirl and my daughter in law. If
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you could believe that, beetrin Hi, everybody, We are here returning to
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Sister Wives Primacy, the television show that launched this podcast some two years ago.
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I know, god, we started off just screaming into the void,
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literally, never expecting anybody to give a shit. No, and that first
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week hundreds of downloads. Yeah, and I'm like, oh my god,
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untapped audience filled with angry women just like us, and the rest is history.
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so thank you in advia. Thank you. So let's just do a
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road this far, okay, Because we were always doing some kind of Sister
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Wives content, whether it was in season and we were reviewing it week to
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week or whether we were doing rewinds like we're going to do tonight. Yeah,
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we were always talking Cody Brown and Robert Wives in the Family. But
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then of course Cares in past, Yes, and it was such a shock
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and we were so unhappy and terribly sad and moved that we decided to take
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a little bit of a break. You poo Yeah, we had some other
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shows that we were reviewing, i e. Vander Pump Rules in the Valley.
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We had a lot on our plate anyway, but we just on an
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er jettic level, needed to take a step back and just kind of give
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it some breath. Yep, And so that is what we've done. We
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decided we'd come back after VPR wrapped up and The Valley is also wrapping up,
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so we've got more space. But at the same time, I kind
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of feel like we have a bit of a conundrum because there is this huge
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thing that exists, which is the tragic passing of Garrison Brown, and then
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we're watching this dumb show. Yeah that is you know, silly and also
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filled with lies. Yeah, We're having all of our reactions and we want
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to laugh, and it's like kind of hard to reconcile those two things,
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which is why I think time is so helpful. But also for me,
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and I want to ask you how you're going to do it, But for
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me, I'm just gonna have to separate those in my mind. Me too,
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Like when we deal with at least the rewinds, Yeah, when we
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deal with the Rewinds, I'm just going to be back in like twenty twelve,
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just hating on this family for being liar and fools. Yeah. I
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can't like think and feel like the sorrow of all of this and what it's
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leading up to so deeply, because otherwise I can't do my raccoon job,
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which is very important obvious obviously, which is trashing Cody Brown and talking crap
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about him. I agree completely. I just want to be able to like
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talk about it and then you know, if Garrison pops up, we talk
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about it at that point in time. We address it there. But like,
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we don't want to change necessarily the whole vibe of Sister Wive Rewindes because
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we know that you guys love that and you love these recaps and stuff.
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So I think separation's best. I don't want to change the vibe at all
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if we can help it, and we'll see if we can do it.
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Yeah, I'm just going to keep it open ended, really because sometimes we
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might be talking about something and it might be very sad, and we're going
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to just allow ourselves to talk about it. But that's just kind of the
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attitude we have as we're going back in to well season four. Yeah,
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this is the season when they're trying to buy the homes in the Call de
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Sac in Las Vegas, still pretending everything's great. Kids are thriving, marriages
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are doing so well. So that's kind of where we are in the timeline,
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and I'm just going to try and have fun with it me too.
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So don't hold it against me. If I'm laughing, if I'm swearing,
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yeah, if I'm talking shit, that is just what we do, and
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that's how we do it exactly. Okay. I couldn't have said it better
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than myself. All right, So before we get into this particular episode when
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Cody's brothers come to town and Cody makes a fool of himself as usual,
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is there anything else around this situation that we want to talk about or has
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the family done anything since then that is noteworthy that we should hash out.
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I mean, there's been little tidbits here and there, Like We've talked a
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little bit about Mary Brown's hashtag Worthy of Business, which is live and she's
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hosting Facebook stuff. I guess she's not been on Instagram though she has been
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doing her Fridays with friends, and I wonder why, is it because she's
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maybe focusing on Facebook or is it because she got roasted by the raccoons and
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everybody else, probably a little bit of both. I mean it's I mean,
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her Friday was friends. Fridays with friends were really embarrassing. So many
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people showed up. Though she's liked to be having some fun with I thought
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they were kind of cringe. I never watched. I just but I think
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lives in general are kind of cringe. That's just me. But she's got
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that business. Christine's got her Airbnb that she's like constantly advertising. Plus her
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menopausal Plexus scheme. Yeah, which I think Janelle's part of now too.
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Well, she's been doing Plexus for quite some time, but the menopause.
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She on the menopause locomotive heading to Moneytown. Yea. I did see that
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Janelle and Savannah and Gabe were in Disneyland or on disney World this past weekend.
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Yeah, and so I'm happy to see them out and about and doing
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family stuff. Yeah. It's very very everything is very very deep and sad,
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but I'm glad that the family's moving on. I think Maddie recently was
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ill or something. I don't remember any of that, but I don't pay
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attention to Maddie personally, is Micheltie still squawking into the ether with all of
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her self righteousness. Yeah, her unearned white woman cringe, Yeah, which
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I don't participate in because with her or her husband too many tacos, Tony.
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Yeah. Yeah, I haven't been keeping up on any of that.
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I really just kind of stepped away and I too unsubscribed from all of the
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subreddits. Oh my god. Really, yes, well, a couple of
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them or one of the subreddits went dark after Garrison didn't come back for a
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while, and then when they did, there was like a lot of weird
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authoritative moderator bullshit, and so they started a new subreddit called Sister Wives Fans.
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And now that one's starting to become overly moderate. Why cat, people,
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just calm down. It's just a bunch of middle aged women yelling about
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Cody Brown. Just let us scream. Oh my god, let us scream.
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The Internet is so crazy, though, and I feel like it's the
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downfall of society. All these people go crazy because of the Internet. It's
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not that deep. It is not, but that's about it. Yeah,
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that's where we are, and now we're going to be returning until see his
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Sister Wives season nineteen comes back, which I think is going to be this
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year. It's probably going to be around the end of summer like usual.
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That would be nice. I don't know, though, I have heard that
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they've filmed like what happened with Garrison, Yes, so we probably are going
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to be seeing more of that. And we know that they were filming at
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the beginning of the year at the end of last year for season nineteen,
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so I think that's all in the can. I do think they picked up
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cameras to address this issue with Garrison. So I know it's coming back.
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I just don't know when. But until then, we as a podcast are
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going to be returning to our sister wives rewinds. Yes, and I'm excited
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me too. So we're like midway through season four. We're on episode seven
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called Brown Boys Do Vegus? All Right? The episode prior to this was
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the Valentine's Day episode where he was taken all the wives, Oh yeah,
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for their Valentine's Day. He wanted to take the other three wives out for
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me, exactly right. So we start this episode with Cody's brothers coming into
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town. I have a takeaway. What I have a very important to take
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what's your takeaway. My takeaway is that I notice all the time, and
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especially in this episode, how Cody loves and I dare say needs to cause
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play masculinity all the time, Like his favorite things to do are like wrestle.
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Yeah, and in this episode alone, we see him at the gun
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range shooting his guns. We see him riding motorcycles, like he seems really
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invested in needing people to think that he's a oh bro. He's a real
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man. He's an alpha man, alpha Mormon and straight. And I don't
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believe it. I feel like it's a compensation. Yeah, Like you're in
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Vegas, why don't you go to a casino? Why don't you do as
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the Vegas people do? But no, you want to act like you're such
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a man because he is. Don't you see him in those wrangular jeans with
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the bedazzled booty pockets. I mean, he is the epitome of masculinity with
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his little tight Shirley temple curls. Yeah. No, Like I think,
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real manly men don't have to force themselves to do manly things so everybody sees
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them they're just manly men. So I just for sure it really smacked of
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this forced masculinity that I think is covering what that one chick said. I
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think in season one, when he goes back and he sees all of his
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high school friends and they say, oh, we all thought Cody was flamboyantly
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gay, not just gay, not one of those download gay kids in the
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eighties we all wondered about. No, flem buoyantly gay is what his high
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school friends thought of him. I mean, I can see it. I've
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been seeing it this whole entire time. I think Robin totally pegs him.
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I think he's got something. That's why he goes to Robin, because she
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gives him with other wives can't. Oh, I'm just I don't know.
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I just think it's either like he's cosplaying masculinity or he's just like constantly competing,
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especially with his brothers, And it's so cringe because I'm like, you're
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in your forties, Like, why are you competing with Scott? I know
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who's oldest? Fun what a dun who orders ice water at the Pioneer Bars?
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So lame, super lame. But that's just Cody. I think he
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always has to be the best, He always has to be the biggest,
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he always has to be the richest, the most famous. He's an ARC,
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so it's totally he's an arc on track who's afraid of his inner femininity.
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So I'm just gonna leave that out. That homlessexicality. That's right as
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we start this rewind, thank you for indulging me. Well, we've got
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the three brothers that are over. It's Scott who's the old fart and he's
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he's got two wives and so he's a polygamist. He lives up in northern
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Wyoming. And then we have Curtis who's a monogamous and he's the non denominational
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Christian. He does not believe interesting in the Mormonism in the book forrmon Yeah,
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in the polygamy, yeah, which is interesting. And then we have
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Michael who comes later in the episode, who's super young. He's like twenty
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something. He looks like Logan kind of yeah for sure, and he's a
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polygamist. But he's only got one wife right now because he's on the hunt.
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He's on the prow. Is it me or were there a couple of
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head wounds here on display? Like Michael had like this big scar on the
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back of his head, and then Scott had kind of this weird line of
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hair on his forehead. I'm like, are you guys just on farms with
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farming implements getting injured in your head parts? Probably? I mean they did
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say they're farm kids from Wyoming, so I mean that would make sense,
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very strange. Cody's dad was an actual masculine man. He's a rancher,
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yes, so he was a tough dude, so I wouldn't doubt it.
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They probably all have scars. I wonder if Cody's hiding one under him.
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Maybe maybe that's why he's so invested. Maybe in his frow. He would
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look a lot cooler if he just showed his scar. Oh my gosh,
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imagine if he shaved his head grew out like a little bit of a beard.
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That would be awesome. I mean not awesome, but it would be
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so much better than what he's doing now, so much better than his hair.
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And the season four cody hair is so bad because it's flat iron to
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filth and so it's all dead and dry. I can't but like, also
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a little bit of curl in that, Like he's also taking in a curling
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iron or Robin is in just one little wave right here and right there,
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he's preposterous. He looks so stupid, and I love it. I know
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me too. And then they go on a motorcycle ride to the biker bar,
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like cool manly men do, right, which is really embarrassing because when
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have we ever seen Cody ride a motorcycle? Well, and one of the
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brothers is riding, bitch, I'm just wow, couldn't you rent another motorcycle?
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Do you really have to put Curtis on the back of her brother's bike.
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I was just embarrassed a little bit for these dummies. It was really
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embarrassing. Well, then going to the biker bar, I'm like, what
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what are we doing? And then they order ice water. The bartender's like
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coming right up, so sure. Things so stupid, super freaking weird.
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This is also like, right before they go to the bar, Curtis also
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makes a comment. He's like, let's bring on the ladies or whatever,
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and Robin hears it and she's like, Cody Curtis said, you're bringing on
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the ladies? What does that mean? Yeah, I can chill out.
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Do we think that she was playing or do we think like she was honestly
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concerned that they were going to be picking up new wives? New Wives for
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everybody. I think she was wanting to come across like she was playing,
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but I think it was serious, because why are you asking about it?
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The other wives don't give a fuck no, get out of here, Cody,
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I mean, and you shouldn't if you're a poligamous, right, you
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should always alter entertain the idea of more wives. But it's Robin Brown.
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So now I did notice when they were at that Pioneer bar that Cody kind
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of used this as a segue after ordering ice waters, that it was kind
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of an article of their faith that they don't drink alcohol. So I was
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wondering if Curtis ordered a beer at the bar. I thought there was an
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amber liquid that he had in I think he had a drink. The other
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two did not have a drink. And I just find it very interesting because
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now I don't know. Eight years later, ten years later, Cody's being
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photographed outside the Pigly Wiggly with a bunch of beer in his car. Mary's
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getting up on the Instagram live drunk is fabbing a wine Friday. Christine has
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a full bar in her house like these, and so does Janelle. She
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had like that wine cabinet, so all these people are drinking. So if
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it's an article of your faith not to drink and now you are drinking,
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are we supposed to maybe presume that you know, longer believe in Mormonism.
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I think that's the correct assumption there, because I mean towards the end of
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season eighteen, they were all kind of questioning their faith besides, like Janelle,
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Like Janelle was really the only one that was like, no, I
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still believe in coolab and I love my God. So I don't know.
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I thought that was interesting, so dismissive, what of a whole religion?
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No, but I STI a cult. Yeah, well every religion is kind
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of a cult exact. I mean that's the definition of a cult. Yeah.
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Yeah, but like Mormonism, especially salam Scientology, it's like, yeah,
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well Christianity is pretty crazy too. We got a virgin birth, we
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got somebody getting sure raised from the dead, two people getting raised from the
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dead, walking on water, got locusts. I mean it's a little nuts.
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Yeah, it is all of its nuts. But yeah, I thought
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it was weird that they even go to a bar because Scott's like so uncomfortable
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with it. This old man time is just they're like, why my here.
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I felt kind of bad for him. But then meanwhile, while the
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guys are at the biker bar, girls are like, we're gonna show Erica,
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Curtis's wife, who's also there, a night out on Vegas. It's
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gonna be so amazing and so lit. So for me, that's like,
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we're going to the bar. Yeah, I'm wearing a mini scarf, I'm
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in a vape a little bit, I'm gonna wiggle my ass around, I'm
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on a dance on a bar somewhere. Coyote ugly, sure, yeah,
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but not these women. No, they go to like a sip and paint,
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but they're not sipping anything. They're just painting pottery. Of course,
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they're not sipping anything, they're painting pottery. Boring. I'm merry in this
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scene because Mary's like, I don't like crafts. I don't like to paint.
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I don't like to do this shit. And that is how I feel
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as well. Yeah, it is so boring. It's so matronly, Well,
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like, what are we doing? Robin has a full ass craft room,
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and I think Christine has a craft room, and I know a lot
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of you probably have craft rooms. So I don't wanna you cross ditch.
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I totally love crafting. It's just like I wouldn't pick that as like a
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group date out, like a fun thing for Vegas, like go to a
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sushi bar. You go to like a little like cocktail bar or something and
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order mocktails, like you don't have to do anything crazy. But I just
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thought it was weird, and like the disparity between Cody's brother time, Like
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he gets to go to a bar, he gets to go to the shooting
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range, and then they go out to a casino for dinner and have dinner,
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but the wives get to paint pottery and then later make really bad homemade
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sushi when they're trying to cut this sushi and it's just getting switched into the
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cutting board with all of the children running around so embarrassed. What a great
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night things. So it's been so much fun. Thanks ladies, it's great.
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I just felt bad for them. But meanwhile at the bar, the
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guys kind of have a conversation, like they just get into it right with
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Cody. They're like, so, what are you gonna do about your living
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situation, dude, because this is a mess. Scott talks about how he
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has two wives. He's got two houses right next to each other and it's
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perfect. He's like, I don't know what the heck's Cody doing. This
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is stupid, and Cody like, yeah, we can't afford the forty percent
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down on this plot of or like these four homes that we had, so
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we're gonna have to talk with our realtor later. Yeah, So they're still
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trying to figure it out. Just to bring everybody up to speed. They
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are looking for a living situation where all of the homes can be close or
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approximate to one another. And so of course they found the call to Sack,
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which they ultimately move into, although I guess it's a call to Sack
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across the street. I'm ready to see. I don't know. Yeah,
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but they found the call to Sack and they got super excited. But because
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their credit scores are so terrible and they don't have any money and they're fraudsters
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and frequently bankrupt and scammers and dent losers, yeah, they can't get a
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conventional loan. So that poor sweet realtor is trying to figure out an unconventional
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loan in order for them to get their homes. And so what she came
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up with was, yeah, we can do loans, but you have to
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put forty percent down. And when you're talking about all of the homes,
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and at the time, we think they were going for about four hundred and
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fifty to five hundred thousand dollars, so you're looking at close to two million
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dollars. Forty percent of that is I don't know, seven hundred and fifty
20:11
thousand dollars to I don't know. I got to me. But it's a
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lot of money and they don't have it, and so their dreams were dash.
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Yeah, but then that changes a little bit in this episode. Yes,
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it does near the end, which is kind of interesting. And then
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later Michael the baby brother arrives and this is where they take Michael to go
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to the shooting range. Michael talks about how he's on the hunt, on
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the prowl for a second wife, and then they kind of briefly talk about
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how, no, it's actually we don't actually hunt for wives. It's a
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courtship and it's a serendipitous experience and it's all spiritual, okay. And then
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on the couch we have Robin talking about the buzzing again, and you get
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a scene, you get a feast in your heart. Spirit tells you,
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oh my god, that's him, jump on in. You gotta feel something
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in your pants, and so, once again, it is usually the women
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who get some sort of a witnessing feeling or effect, and then they approach
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in their pants, and then they approach the man and ask, would it
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be okay, sir if I join your family, which apparently Cody thinks all
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of the OG wives did. Yeah, they all asked him, they all
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needed him, except for Robin, of course. Uh huh right, sure,
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Jan they expect us to believe all of this. Yes, and circa
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twenty twelve or whatever, a lot of people did for some reason. Yeah,
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because Robin's antics were not obvious yet, not yet. And then the
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guys go to a shooting range while the girls make sushi at their home,
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and it's kind of embarrassing. The guys are going crazy shooting their guns,
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Cody shooting his new gun that he got for Christmas. So dumb. I
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mean, he's like screaming and shouting. He makes a comment, He's like,
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that just saved me one thousand dollars in therapy with my psychologist. Okay,
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as if you go to therapy. No, Cody, No, there's
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no way. It's cringe af And then after the shooting range, then they
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go to dinner and this is kind of why they're talking with Michael about getting
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a second wife. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'm working on
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it. It's like, really weird. He's very young. Why do you
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need to be working on it. You're in your early twenties, even though
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you are balding significantly, And I am sorry for you, sir. Yeah,
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oh, but like you already have one wife. You're so young,
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Like, spend some time in the season of your life with your one wife
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that you have. But no, you want to start adding wives for God.
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Yeah, it's for colob to it. It's not for these nuts my
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pencils, not for that punani. No, it's for God. Yeah,
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I'm just like uugh. But we still have Christopher, who is the hold
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out, non non curtinational, curtis whatever, interchangeable white Mormon guy number three,
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who would never do that. So he's sitting in his couch interview with
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his wife, who I happened to like. I think he's pretty cool and
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he's just like I would never want to have to deal with four wives.
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And Eric's like, and if I wanted to enter into polygamy, he would
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leave me. Yeah, He's like, I would separate. And I think
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some of that felt to me a little bit like a trauma response on Curtis's
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part. Curtis's part, like, hmm, because he feels so strongly about
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it, so much so that he would leave this woman that he loves very
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much and you can tell. And so I'm kind of wondering what happened in
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Winn Brown's home and what he saw and how that made him feel. Yeah,
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I wonder which mom is his, because Cody's one of ten, He's
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like the fourth oldest of ten. Curtis is like eleven years younger than Cody,
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So I wonder where he's at in the mix. Like if he was
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Cody's mom's son, he could probably saw like Win just be like over Cody's
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mom, because it kind of is implied that he preferred Janelle's mom. Yeah,
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but Janelle's mom came along later, right, Wasn't there an wife in
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there? I don't know, can somebody clear that up? Because I think
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I've seen something about when having another wife, not just those two, And
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if that was the case, maybe she was somebody who like had some of
24:12
his children. I don't know, and that's why I'm just putting it out
24:15
there. I'm wondering if these are half brothers, half sisters, or if
24:19
they're full brothers and sisters from Cody's mom. Yeah, not sure. I'm
24:25
sure something happened, but I think Curtis feels some kind of way because he's
24:29
seen it. Yes, And of course, like Cody's like, oh yeah,
24:33
like we wish he would have like followed in our faith and everything,
24:37
but we respect him. We support his decision. So I'm like, well,
24:38
that's good because he's allowed to make his decision. But something tells me
24:44
they all judge him for it, which we're going to kind of get to.
24:47
Yeah. Yeah, well because the very next scene, Cody has to
24:49
put on his pastor hat his house church and do a family sermon, which
24:55
I'm just like, how often does this happen just for the cameras? I
24:59
actually think, because I mean, we know they stop doing it and they
25:03
stop getting together, but I'm even questioning whether they really did it every Sunday
25:07
in these seasons and the kids are totally checked out, they don't want to
25:10
be there. This is for the benefit of his brothers, to look like
25:14
the pious pastor of his family. Everything is for appearances sake, oh for
25:18
sure. And like Christine even made a comment I caught this on my second
25:22
rewatch. She was like, normally we hold individual sermons in our individual homes,
25:27
so it doesn't seem like the whole family gets together for church that often.
25:33
It seems like the wives are probably in chibeh. I totally misheard that.
25:37
Yeah, I thought she was saying that there wasn't a polygamous community in
25:41
Vegas. That's true. Yeah, we just hold our own church services in
25:44
our individual homes. I didn't know that that meant the wives were conducting the
25:48
services in their homes with or without Cody. That's what I'm thinking because at
25:53
this point, like Cody's not always sharing his time equally with all of the
25:59
wives. I'm assuming the wives are kind of holding up that tradition, which
26:03
so this whole thing is like so performative and weird. McKelty was there,
26:07
which I thought she was like not wanting to be a part. I thought
26:11
she objected to it, either this season before this one or the one before
26:15
that, because she didn't think it was right that it was filmed. There
26:18
was something about that that went against her idea of their religion, but Cody
26:22
wanted to do it anyway because he's a malignant narcissist. But she did not
26:26
attend, but yes, she was here this time. Yeah, that was
26:29
interesting. Yeah. And then Curtis has kind of like his own little sermon
26:33
where he talks about something about people eating meat. Yeah, it went over
26:37
my head. I think it was like a scripture. Yeah, it was
26:38
a scripture, and I think it was Jesus speaking about the choice to eat
26:44
meat and how one man will choose to eat it the other man won't,
26:48
but we don't judge either man for their choices as to eating meat. And
26:52
the broader implication was around I think spirituality, faith and religion. In other
26:59
words, some men choose to be Mormon, and some men choose to be
27:02
Christian, and some men choose to be Buddhist, but we don't sit here
27:06
in judgment of those people. We just continue to love them. And I
27:08
thought it was just a really interesting thing to say, because again he's going
27:14
out of his way in his interstitials and throughout various conversations, curtisis to basically
27:19
say, yeah, this isn't for me. I don't believe in it.
27:22
I would never do it. And now he's standing up during church and basically
27:26
saying, you really can't judge me based on the Bible for taking a different
27:30
path, as if he has been judged. Oh interesting, as if maybe
27:37
he is kind of on the outside or an outlier in his family. Just
27:42
making me question how close these brothers really are now would makes sense because their
27:47
whole segments just felt really weird and like forced. I'm like, you guys
27:52
say that you see them every year, but it just feels like you guys
27:55
are too happy to be around each other. And like Cody had mentioned earlier
27:59
in thesode about how he's like a rule breaker. He doesn't follow all the
28:03
rules like his brother Scott does, but he looks up to him for that.
28:07
So I'm just like, if Cody's judging Curtis for his lifestyle, that's
28:11
lame. I could see Scott being the judge one though me as well.
28:15
Yeah, even judge of Cody, because you've got four wives and you're not
28:18
managing them well at all. No, they're not living next to each other,
28:22
you're not doing polygamy the way that Scott's doing polygamy, so you're doing
28:25
polygamy wrong exactly. And then they also have like kind of a conversation with
28:30
Cody and the wives kind of on the couch where they're talking about how they've
28:34
always raised their children to have the choice of their religion, but they would
28:40
be very heartbroken if they didn't choose fundamental Mormonism, right, And they speak
28:45
specifically about Logan because in this season, Logan is just about to go off
28:49
to college. And we actually have a scene with Janelle on the couch and
28:53
she's moved to tears because she doesn't know if she's done enough to convey to
29:00
Logan the importance and the beauty of her faith, and so it feels like
29:03
she doesn't know whether he's gonna stay a Mormon, whether he's going to cleave
29:07
to her faith as she is. And I'm actually wondering if Logan is a
29:12
practicing Mormon. My vibe is that he is not. Yeah, I think
29:17
he stayed in Vegas. Obviously, he just got married to his longtime girlfriend,
29:22
But I don't think he's Mormon. If anything, he's probably like mainstream
29:26
Mormon, like LDS or like maybe Christian or something like that if he even
29:30
believes in anything. But if I was logan, I would be like agnostic
29:34
or something. I'd be like this is all stupid, Like this is all
29:37
crazy. Obviously my dad's all whack adoodle, So I'm not going to be
29:41
a part of it. I don't know, like I understood like the parent
29:45
sentiment of like you want your kids to follow in your footsteps, you want
29:48
them to like carry on the traditions and stuff like that. But it's like
29:51
it's a little contradictory to be saying, oh, yeah, we give her
29:55
kids the choice of the religion, but we'd be so devastated if they don't
29:59
choose it, Like I want to convey the importance of my faith and what
30:02
I believe. It's like a gay just say you're forcing your kids, are
30:06
indoctrinating your kids. I don't know that they are. I think that they
30:10
are trying really hard to impress upon them that they would be so happy if
30:15
they made that choice. But I'm still kind of holding out thinking that they're
30:19
okay with whatever the children choose to do, because ultimately, as time goes
30:23
by, they seem to be okay with the various decisions that some of the
30:29
children are making For example, Leon Well, Cody and Robin aren't okay with
30:33
Leon Well allegedly in the moment when Leon came out. Yeah, Robin was
30:38
the one who seemed to be the most accepting at first. Yeah yeah,
30:42
but I mean that could have all been false. I mean, obviously so
30:47
much was false. And I don't think Leon and Cody and Robin talk now,
30:51
oh yeah, I don't think they talk at all. And then after
30:53
the whole church sermon, then we have the final scene, which is Cody
30:59
and the wh which is the most exciting scene because this is where we're getting
31:03
to the finances. When Mona actually says, with her mouthball and her words
31:08
that like, of course you guys couldn't get a conventional loan, but maybe
31:11
with some time you can improve your credit scores. Like, oh my god,
31:17
if that were me and you're saying that out loud on television, I
31:21
would be cringing so deeply. Yeah, that means none of them have good
31:25
credit. None, none of them have good credit. Yeah, much less
31:29
like any fluidity, any ability liquidity rather not fluidity, yeah, liquidity to
31:33
like have money to put down on these homes. I mean, and she's
31:37
just kind of letting us know. And I love it, I know,
31:40
And they all seemed so like surprised, especially Janelle when she was like when
31:44
Mona was talking about the financing options, She's like, previously we could only
31:48
get you guys into houses with unconventional financing and forty percent down. But with
31:53
time, maybe you get your credit up and then you can qualify for ten
31:57
percent down a curricular convention financing. And Janelle was like, Wow, that's
32:01
so amazing. I had no idea, And I'm like, what do you
32:05
mean, Like, if you're declaring bankruptcy and all the stuff, you have
32:07
to have like some basic knowledge of like credit and how shit works, right,
32:12
you would think, I would think, but they just act like they're
32:15
so clueless. But you know, we know in the future they do end
32:19
up getting approved somehow for these houses and they move into it. I don't
32:22
know if it's the end of season four or like beginning of season five,
32:25
I don't know, but it happens by the grace of God. And during
32:30
this conversation, like most of them have hope, Like Janelle's like, cool,
32:32
like I'm still hoping for it. I'm a little hesitant, but I'm
32:36
I'm happy about it. Cody and Robin are super excited for it, Mary's
32:39
excited for it, and Christine's like, I don't think it's gonna work right
32:44
right, well, And I think they end up taking those short term balloon
32:47
loans right like, we're interest free for five to ten years, oh yeah,
32:54
to interest free for or no only interest only, yeah, interest only
32:58
loans for five to ten years, and then at the end of those ten
33:00
years you have to pay the fucking whole thing, refinance it and or pay
33:04
it. And so that is what precipitated their ultimate move to flag Staff,
33:07
because I still don't think they got a conventional loan like the rest of most
33:13
people do, probably not all people. Well, even then, if they
33:15
couldn't afford to pay off that whole that's why I know there were some conspiracy
33:22
theories around Dayton Robinson going to university in northern Arizona, and so she was
33:30
like the neck that turned Cody to get everybody to go to flag Staff.
33:34
But I'm wondering if it's more about the interest only loans coming to them being
33:38
unable to pay it and having to get the fuck out of Dotch. It
33:43
might be a combination of both. She's just like, Oh, it's super
33:45
convenient we can go back to flag Staff because I can't remember when polygamy got
33:50
decriminalized. I think it got decriminalized in Utah, like while they were in
33:53
flag Staff, and that was what set Christine off to be like, why
33:58
can't we just move back there? We all want to be back in Utah,
34:00
right, And that was like the divide that created everything. So yeah,
34:06
it'll be interesting to see what they ultimately get approved for and then how
34:09
they move to flag Staff because I stopped watching the show back in the day
34:15
when they like way before they moved to flag Staff, so I don't know
34:19
any of that lore. I don't know really what happened, So that'll be
34:22
cool to see them. Yeah, I didn't pick up the show until Mary's
34:24
Catfish. That was when I started watching this. Was that in Vegas.
34:28
That's in Vegas. That's like season what thirteen, twelve, fourteen, something
34:32
like that, a few years before they ultimately moved to flag Staff and we
34:37
get the whole COVID arc. Oh god. So that's what kept me plugged
34:40
in with the Catfish. I thought that was so interesting and I kind of
34:44
guest way to get back there. Yes, me too. Well that was
34:49
an okay episode, short but sweet. Yep, we learned a little bit
34:52
about the money, which was good. They're gonna have another opportunity if they
34:55
wait a little while as the other lot is being developed. Yeah, to
35:00
get potentially a conventional loan and move into their dream called Desire and we'll all
35:06
be together. Will be so easy for Cody to manage his families, which
35:10
he will not do. No, he will be at Robins the entire time.
35:14
Well, she has an office, okay, so we can work there
35:16
for his job that he doesn't have totally to lease another Lexus and break down
35:22
that pussy, Yeah for break it down all right? Well, any final
35:28
thoughts about the Sister Wives? Are you glad to be back in the universe?
35:30
I am. I kind of feel like it's like I haven't ridden a
35:35
bike in a while, so I feel like a little rusty. But I'm
35:37
like excited to be back into Sister Wives because I missed it so much.
35:40
Yes, and I know everybody was waiting for us to come back, So
35:43
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