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The Head and The Heart · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's deprogram the podcast where we try to get you into an
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artist. Today's artists is the head in
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the heart and in some ways, I think, I think I have The Head
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and the Heart on the line, Jilly believe the way it was presented
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to me was through Randy, but I think this was your idea.
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I think this was a band you wanted to do in my correct.
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Oh yeah. Well I guess so talk to me about
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The Head and the Heart what is it that you love about them.
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And why is this? Why was this?
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Your entry point. Why was this a band that we had
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to talk about today? I, I think they're kind of rad
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like I you know, I kind of like all different kinds of music and
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I can't reduce them. I'm thinking about this like,
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where did I first hear them? And I think they were on.
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So before we met, oh wait before we?
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Yeah, I think they were on like sure.
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Like they had a, you know, they're awesome soundtrack or
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something. And I was like this is a good
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song so you know and add it to my Spotify like I used to do and
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then I just kind of, you know, always follow them.
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I never saw them live until three years ago.
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They were always sort of a band that I always went back to and
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they've released a handful of album.
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So it was nice to sort of see what they were up to, and they
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remain consistent. That's a really nice thing for
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me. We were talking tonight about
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bands that change their sound so much over there over there
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tenure, and I feel like The Head and the Heart while they have
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been. They're not boring and they
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have, you know, not they've experimented.
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But they've never been consistent and I really
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appreciate that consistent. Yes.
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Absolutely. I was something I noticed going
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through this now. Randy, what is it about The Head
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and the Heart that that made you jump aboard?
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Oh, I definitely have become a fan over these handful of years
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and I think it was definitely after seeing them live in 2019
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and we're coming off of seeing them about three days ago and
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they were terrific once again. So I'm at the sound on sound
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festival. And really the first time that I
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had heard of them was probably like 2013 and they worst like
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judge. They had probably like two
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albums out then and they were just up and coming.
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NG with like all the fast, like they played every big festival.
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And that's all that people talked about they were talking
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about their live show and that's how and, you know, we say it all
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the time on other podcasts and just another conversations that
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in order to be a known band right now.
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You have to play live because that's how everybody's going to
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figure you out because you can't just go into you're not
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listening to the radio, you're not.
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Damn TV watching MTV, you're not going to the the CD store to go.
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Pick something up most of what you see it like a record store,
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our people have kind of an agenda like okay I'm here to buy
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this here to look for this and you just have to see them live.
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You have as much as the festival idea sucks and it's not fun.
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I went to two different festivals in the matter of
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almost a week and I I pretty much don't like festivals and
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but that's how you learn about these bands because they're,
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they're just not outside of like one or two songs that maybe you
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hear on commercials or Etc, kind of kind of deal.
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You're not ever going to figure them out unless you see them
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live and that's where I really got to know them from the live
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show that we saw right after our wedding.
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And I thought that they were terrific.
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So, you know, kind of stuck since then.
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So yeah I guess to to your point like I feel like I had we don't
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listen to a lot of radio anymore.
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I mean I don't know anybody who actually does.
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I think my wife listens like to and from work.
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Maybe it's not like AM FM, like Sirius XM sometimes.
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Yeah. But you know, not a lot of radio
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but I believe at one point her and I were driving somewhere
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around town and she had one of the local stations on and The
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Head and the Heart came on. It was enough.
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For me to like notice the name and go.
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Okay, what's this? You know, but like other than
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that until you had brought it up you know like that was it like a
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peripheral? I saw the name scroll across to
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my radio and that was it. So going to this again,
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completely blind. As I do trying to Jill already
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said it, like consistency is the name of this band can see.
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It's very consistent. And the chances that they take,
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it reminds me a lot of like, was it December?
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So we did last year like, we're man, I really like, yeah, they
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take some chances, but it all lives very well within in the
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band. So that always makes this next
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part. A little harder in this being
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your first time here. Jill, it makes me wonder, how
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did you go about picking your 24?
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This did you kind of have any game plan going in order?
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You just kind of take what you want, you like, please share.
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I it was hard for me because I love this band so much.
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So, my knee-jerk reaction was like, oh I just want like right
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on my favorite 20 songs and be like, yeah, this is of course,
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what I want to introduce somebody to because they're my
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favorite 20. So I know that's not how the
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game is played. So I, you know, extended myself
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a little bit and a lot of them are my favorite books but you
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know, it really gave me an opportunity.
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Opportunity to sort of force myself, to listen to the
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album's. That maybe I wasn't as familiar
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with and be, if that's still accurate for me or not.
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And I think it made me appreciate them a lot more.
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I don't, I would say before this, before we saw them.
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I wasn't listening to them. Like all the did every day, are
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all there anything. So it really gave me a nice
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reason to sort of get back. Men.
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And really think about them as a band more and think about who
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they are and what their sound is made me really appreciate them
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alone. So you've got a little home home
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home field advantage here, Randy.
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Like I do. And that's actually exactly what
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I'm going to talk about here. Bring it on man.
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Like, I mean, sometimes sometimes that that plays into
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it. So clearly that that had had had
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an effect. Yeah, it definitely did because
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when I was going through these, I kind of Kind of joked like
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right as we started. I'm like, I only know, three
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songs, she's lying. I think, you know, some more,
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and she's right. Like we listen to them a lot
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around the house and on car rides and I won't while hearing
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these songs. I'm not necessarily listening
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sometimes so but they are getting lodged into I guess the
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back program memory of my mind. So when I gave them a listen, a
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lot of them, Than 10. I may be even more than 20.
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I was like, oh yeah, that's that.
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And then because I had that familiarity with them, that made
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me like it even more and that, you know, led to kind of sum of
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my automatic picks in this too. Mmm.
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So I have none of that going into this but you know, I hate
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to keep repeating. But since Jill nailed it in that
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first little bit like this bands, consistent, I did have A
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lot harder time cutting than I expected.
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I think I kept it tidy on my first past something like 35 37
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or I think it was actually 33 and I thought, okay, this this
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won't be too bad. That's not too bad.
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And then as I'm listening back through those 33 that made
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through, I was like oh this is the problem.
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So I'll tell you guys this right up front self-titled really,
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really hard to cut from Yeah, and surprisingly for me,
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usually, it doesn't work like this signs of light, like their
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third record really, really hit me.
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I think I had most the album after my first pass.
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Yeah. And I think I've got a lot of
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that left. So, like, I just found.
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So basically, what I went when I'm making those last Cuts, I'm
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just like, well, what can't I live without like, what, what is
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really calling to me with this band I usually do Do this, Randy
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will tell you. I usually try to even it out.
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I I went with my head and my heart this time.
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Hey, I had no idea. I was gonna do that but that's
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what I did. So based on the conversation we
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just had Jill. Now this this could get Rowdy
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here. What's our song list like 6363
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songs? I think and that's not true.
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It's only three of us. So you never know how many do
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you think the three of us will get unanimously?
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I've been thinking about this a lot because I have literally no
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idea and now I'm even less sure. After you thought you just said
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I'm gonna go with. I also have no idea what you
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guys usually do. Like, how aligned do you
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normally are I'm going to say seven.
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Hmm, I know it's high but I think I think that there are
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some obvious choices. So, okay, the cream always
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Rises. Through the top.
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So you never know sometimes sometimes it just plays out that
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way. What do you think ready?
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Well we have been surprised on reason episodes where we got 29
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with men at work and you know with a five-person panel, we got
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25 with with Eddie Vetter or maybe it was six.
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I can't remember. It was pretty high though.
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And for this like I'm a little, you know, after what you said,
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I'm a little like, okay, maybe one or two things like all
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right. We're on the same page and then
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maybe another alone like okay, not as close to the same page
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and then Jillian told me her album, distribution not, which
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album how many songs from which album, but she had a couple that
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were pretty low and I pretty much kind of spread it out as
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much as possible. Because what happened at the end
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was I would look at the list and I would look at what I had left
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and Was really hard to make one or two or three Cuts.
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So I said all right what album is lacking.
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This song is just as good as this song.
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I'm going to put that in to, you know, help the new record or
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something like that. So I am going to say 55 seems
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like the safe bet. So now do I split you all's
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difference? Do I play the dick and go one
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lower? I feel like seven is super
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optimistic. I like it.
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But I definitely can't see it going any higher than that.
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So to me the play is 4 or 6. Hmm, I'll go with for, don't
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like it, but I'll go with for. All right.
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So we're going to take a quick pause and when we come back,
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And with that, the name of the game is to program.
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The three of us have come through the hidden Heart
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discography and of plucked out 20 songs.
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They were now going to mesh together in an attempt to create
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a top 10 starter kit for you, in case you have never given The
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Head and the Heart. A chance.
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Oh boy. Okay, I'm just going to start at
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the top of my list. This isn't necessarily in album
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order, but this is one that kind of really stuck out to me.
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I'm gonna go with honey, bee. Oh, that one, they just played a
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couple days ago and I was a little worried about that
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because you, you got really excited to hear it and I thought
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my back of my head and I really am not taking this and I didn't
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take it personally offended that you didn't take it.
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There's a lot of this that's asking please.
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Yeah, I love honey. Bee It's a beautiful song.
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But what did you say about it yesterday?
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That you. Yeah, you said that it was much
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better live than laughter. Yeah. 100%.
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So under and and that was like totally affirmed when we saw
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that on Sunday. It's beautiful live.
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It's adorable. It's just such a sweet song.
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Yeah well there you go. It's got its got a to its alive
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its well alive on a three-person panel.
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So all right Jill Um, I'm gonna go down in the valley.
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I don't have that one. I do that's actually my my
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number to marry again. all right, I mean there were only 22
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take All right, Randy. I'm going to try to get one that
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I know you have see you through my eyes.
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Yeah, me too. Alright, we got something, here
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we go. If my phone decides, it wants to
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work this time, okay. There we go.
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Oh, screw you. Every single episode every
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single time. I do like in these these later
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records here where they have like you can you can hear the
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changing of contemporary music I guess throughout their career
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and Do you usually do like you know, we'll talk about the later
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record like black the most recent record later I'm sure.
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But like, this is a nice combination of of that line
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where, like I'm starting to really get out on contemporary
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music but they've managed to to weave it into what they do.
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I like it clearly. All right.
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Back to me. Let's stay up towards the top of
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my list, but how about ghosts? Yes.
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Now that all right, there we go, there we go.
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That was actually a late addition only because I didn't
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realize that I didn't have it, so it wasn't technically in my
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bottom three but it doesn't count as like a bottom three
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type song. Yeah, I think that is just such
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a cool song. Oh yes, it's okay.
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They're consistent but it's I think it's more of one of their
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more unique ones. It's also a theme to a show that
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I don't even know if still on. There's not like a CB CBS show
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or something so I would hear all this.
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Time. I'm like Hulu or whatever?
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Yes, like Chuckles. Um, I guess I thought ghosts.
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Yeah. I can, I can see that.
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Yeah. I look like I like the bouncy
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piano intro and I mean, it's obviously stays there the whole
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time, but like had a Ragtime me in a way.
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Yeah. Very cool.
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Very different amidst. That first record the really
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like that first record. They're really setting out to do
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a lot of different things that somehow managed to tie together.
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Alright. What's crazy?
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That record is so good but they still got better.
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Mmm. Yeah.
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All right, Jill. You know, surprise her friend.
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He's I'm sure I have to pick lost someone.
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Of course, I did too. And I'll tell you.
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Okay, I'll tell you this. I actually initially did not
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have it. This was it?
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A late addition, as I was listening, but as I like to do
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actually, I was doing it while you guys came in.
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I like to listen to the playlist, and this song made me
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feel so bad for not picking it, and then also, I always ask, you
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know, the listeners, hey, which songs and as I was listening to
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this song, Emily John's wife commented her pics and this was
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one of the her for pics. I was like okay that solidifies
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it. I was already thinking about
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changing it anyway. I was like, all right, I'm
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bumping something out. So I feel like I made the right
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choice. Yeah, yeah.
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This is my number one favorite long roller and it's I think
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it's a song that introduced me to them.
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I think that this was the one that I heard on some show or
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some commercial, something 11 years ago, 10 years ago,
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whenever it was now and just for me.
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Hmm. Yeah.
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I agree. This was a no doubt home run for
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me. I feel good.
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The last minute. Add-on.
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I feel bad that it was song 20, but like I said like I already
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felt bad enough. Had to make room for it.
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All right, Randy. Let's go to living Mirage.
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That was an album. I really, really liked, I think,
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mainly because I saw most of it live and it was just playing all
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the time because it was brand-new when when we were
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listening to them. You know, constantly this one
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has a really nice like falsetto on it and it's and it has like I
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don't know if it's double tracked or what, but it feels
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like it has like five different people seeing it.
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Same time, I found out. Yeah, have to have it.
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Yep, this is the first time I'm out.
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Oh yeah. I couldn't tell you why, you
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know, it just it just didn't make the cut, but it is a 2.
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So it is still alive. I'm still alive.
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All right. There's actually one song that
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I'm I'm skipping because I want to I'm hoping one of you will
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say it. Let me go to the next one on my
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I got no French accent. Yep.
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How about homecoming Heroes? That was a lie cut.
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It was that a no from both of you.
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Nope, I was another one that Emily had, right?
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Yep. Okay.
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But that one is already on my list that was not only dead.
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Yeah. Great track. 1 band.
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Yes, very much. So, very good at resetting, the
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table. All right, Jill.
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In an effort to come back and hope that we can have another
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one. All three of us, get shake and
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let's be so, yes, I know. There was a lot on let's be
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still to, to be fair, as I was listening to, Let's Be Still.
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That's where I was. When you guys came in that I was
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like, shit. Did I mess up here?
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Hopefully I'll find ya it. As a full album that was one
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that Out of the five, I probably like the least but some
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individual songs really you know you know Park my ear.
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I think that was definitely one of them.
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I think that's what happened like for some reason you know as
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I'm coming through the first time, you know, it's in a in the
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bigger playlist but I think I'm still thinking of it as a record
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and then I've went through and listen to again individually
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tracked and then this last little Bit before the show.
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I was listening to it, like paying attention to each
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individual track as a track. And I think, I think that is an
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advantage to the songs. But unfortunately, I can't, I
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can't make last-minute Cuts. I mean, I could have, I mean, I
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could have, but I like, you could do whatever you want.
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Just I like to keep the Integrity of the game.
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Alright, so Shake was Jill. You are up, Randy.
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Let's go track one off of every shade of blue which is called
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every shade of blue. Yes.
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Yes I got it. Awesome.
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Yeah. That's a that's a really good
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song. I've Been sayin live doing so
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good. That record is interesting.
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Because there's like some really really great stuff but there's
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also like like we talked about before where they're the problem
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is like I don't like a lot of contemporary.
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Music right now. And they, they brought in a lot
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of a lot of elements that I'm like, oh, man.
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Yeah, yeah, you know, I get it. Like, you're trying to stay
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afloat, but like this song would be so much better without that
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one little element. Again.
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I after the first pass, I had a ton from this record but I found
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this one the easiest to cut from Yeah, I can see that but I will
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say that kind of piggybacking off that point is that, you
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know, they are live band. You know, first and foremost,
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I'm kind of with you in the contemporary music way because
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of how some of the especially the Indie bands.
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They're recording techniques. That's very echoey.
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It's very like it just has a different vibe to it.
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Then what I'm used to with you know, 90s bands and stuff like
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that, that are just it's like them playing in their garage.
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And there was actually a band that we did well that you did.
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But I listened to one of their songs because of the 2021 full
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year in review show and I believe the band was called,
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frightened rabbit. Oh yeah.
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And I listened to the song I'm like, it's just way too over
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produced and what happened was I ended up buying a a Record Store
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Day vinyl and it was just like all the bands that had been
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connected to record store day. So I wanted to get it and the
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last track on that record was the song that you had picked for
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the top one. And it was live, it was acoustic
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and it sounded incredible, it sounded like an actual song that
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I would listen to it didn't Of, you know, it was naked almost,
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you know? Yeah.
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And I think that that's sort of a disadvantage to not just
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contemporary Rands, but to some bands in general that, you know,
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get kind of the production value enhanced on their records.
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But you listen to it live and it just, it's sores, it just kills
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a lot of a lot of head in the heart.
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Does that? All right, so every shade of
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blue was you right ready? Are you?
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So we're back to me. So now we're getting into the
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middle of my list, where it could be anything, it could be
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anything. Let me see if I can find you
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guys on. Let's be still.
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How about cruel? No.
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No that was cruel. I mean it suits you get fits
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which of course comes right after shake.
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So Yeah, this song comes on right after it.
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I'm like, okay, I've got this one.
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But I feel like I should have picked the other one and I guess
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the way the cookie crumbles indeed, I should have.
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All right, Jill. I'm gonna do a tiebreaker.
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Remember shade of blue, I did cut that late, that one was
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like, 21. Wow, that one was like one of
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the last ones I cut like that. Like, remember I just just
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saying how like the every shade of blue ones like they were some
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of the last ones I cut but like I found those.
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Those were, those were the ones I did to make room, right?
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Yeah. It's easy to just say, oh well
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it's new. It doesn't have that.
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History to it. Yeah.
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And this is like brand-spanking-new.
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This came out, what May or June? Right, I think a real April.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah we did. We put this together like June
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or July. I think so like that's better
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right? Yeah I'm glad that we got to see
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them. This is actually the perfect
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time yeah to do this because they're fresh in our head right
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now. So how does it feel to have your
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first one hit the pile? All right.
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Yeah, we'll talk about that more on on ATF because I hope it's
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not always I love to know. All right, Randy.
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All the track ones have been working, so I'm gonna stick with
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it all we ever knew. Yes.
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Yep. Okay and there we are at Randy's
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five. Yeah, I think we're exceeding
27:27
that though. Why is my phone going nuts?
27:35
As it's another episode of deprogrammed like it's like I'm
27:38
getting all these notifications. It's like all day I get nothing.
27:44
Now, I'm busy. You want to bug me?
27:49
This one was up near the top of my list for the record.
27:53
Yeah, yeah this this was an automatic in for me.
28:00
All right. Back to me a man.
28:04
There's that one sitting here that I want to say cuz it's
28:07
actually one of my favorites. Keep hoping when he hauls,
28:11
you're in the middle of this, if you don't live up, All right.
28:21
I don't want to be cruel. I don't want to make gel du
28:23
Coeur D. Alene darling.
28:26
No, yes. There we go.
28:30
I don't know. Y'all don't even know how to
28:31
spell that color Darlene, yelling, Co what goe.
28:36
You are capital T. Okay, I think I know what a,
28:42
that's not a city, right? And Idaho, I don't know that
28:47
would probably say, I think it is.
28:51
It makes it makes a lot of sense to me.
28:54
If that's the if that's the case.
28:56
It really really makes a lot of sense to me.
28:59
Yeah. French territory or something
29:00
like that. Could be like Louisiana.
29:04
Yeah, it's Idaho. I do.
29:06
This is a cracker and for the record, we've got the five
29:08
unanimous. We've got five in the convo.
29:10
So we are officially out of ntp Yeah, that's what it's gonna to
29:15
be. All right, Jill.
29:21
Hmm. I think I'll do Rivers and
29:26
Roads. You have to get it.
29:28
Yeah, yes. Of course.
29:31
I don't know. Justin need to be that guy.
29:36
We have to talk about this one. Well, I mean, I feel like
29:40
anything off that first record is going to be an easy sell I
29:44
had most of most of it at one point.
29:46
So this is basically like the song that everybody knows that
29:51
everybody. Gravitate towards, I think it's
29:54
the ones who that the everybody's like, oh I don't
29:56
know any hidden Heart songs and then they start playing this and
29:58
like, oh, I know this one. Yeah.
30:00
Yeah. It's it's their most like the a
30:04
trickle. There goes our, it snows a
30:07
closer. Yeah, I mean again like I'll be
30:10
easily persuaded. No One's Gonna have to work too
30:15
hard. All right?
30:17
Randy, Something random here that I really, really like
30:24
winter song. Yes, I have.
30:27
I don't I don't. That one definitely was like
30:34
that, that cut just before I cut all those.
30:38
The ones from the new record, it was definitely one of the last
30:42
hangers-on shared nine so far. So, that's good.
30:47
Let's keep it our magic marriage together, right now.
30:49
All right, we'll see you. There's better than honey bees.
30:57
We definitely have a conversation ahead of us to, so
31:00
there's definitely some more hard cuts and plenty of
31:04
gameplay. I think I still got like 10
31:05
songs left. So we'll do a couple cameras.
31:09
Do a couple more of these later ones.
31:15
How about running through hell, but I such a good time.
31:24
I cut that to get something from every shade of blue in.
31:29
Oh yeah, I've ever seen a little bit that I can't believe you did
31:31
that? No no.
31:44
We'll come back around. We'll see right.
31:47
All right. Sounds like Hallelujah.
31:52
Yes. Do I really not?
31:55
I swear to God. I thought I did.
31:59
No, I don't huh. How this is?
32:03
Starting to really pile up here. Yeah.
32:09
All right, Randy. Hello.
32:14
All right, this is one that I basically told you that I really
32:19
liked very early on and you were like, it's okay, I know you're
32:22
not going to have it Brenda No, I did not have known either.
32:26
I see I'm not going to I'm not going to divorce you.
32:29
I can't save you with that one. That's all right.
32:33
This is something I really like. All right, and then this oh my
32:42
God phone. Oh, you don't have to play the
32:46
ones. Yeah, I guess not.
32:51
Well, you play the winners. I just like playing a little
32:54
clip of What hits the floor so people can feel bad.
33:03
All right. Um, I'll stay towards the
33:06
bottom. How about that up against the
33:08
wall? No.
33:12
But that was closed for me, for sure.
33:15
Yeah, I feel like Feel like I listen to that, I don't know, I
33:20
didn't you never know, you know, sometimes they just they hit the
33:24
floor because they have to, yeah, right.
33:30
I mean, anybody who knows me? Here's that knows why I picked
33:34
it. I love I love a good premise.
33:42
There we go. All right Jill, there's one that
33:47
I really don't know if either of you would have missed
33:50
connection. Yeah.
33:52
Yeah. I don't know some coffee too.
33:55
Like no that's like that's A song for their.
33:59
Oh yeah. Yeah great.
34:00
But Justin you say yes. Yeah.
34:03
Awesome. That was actually going to be my
34:07
next pick because I thought it would be the one that would be
34:11
closest to unanimous that I have left.
34:13
I thought it'd be a little may be able to Papi.
34:15
That's great. It's great but you know to your
34:19
to your point that's what they do like their.
34:21
Yeah, there is a level 2 that in what they do.
34:25
So like, I feel like it had to be represented somewhere and I
34:30
feel like this is a great representation of that.
34:32
So and I feel like living Mirage was like, five is by farther
34:36
like Papi estoy album. And when it first came out, I
34:39
was like, oh no, they like their no charge today, they're not,
34:45
but if they're so bad, like it's, it was very clear right
34:48
away. That them, they say, true
34:50
themselves and for the record, this is the one that the other
34:53
one I was looking at when I on my last pick up against the
34:56
walls up against Waller this All three of us were in lockstep.
34:59
They're all right, Randy. However colors.
35:11
Nope. Hmm.
35:12
Nope. Not even Trend number of colors
35:19
is on the third record. I can determine really.
35:26
Yeah, yeah. This is why I play them.
35:33
Randy. Yeah.
35:35
Everybody feels bad. All right, stay on that record
35:44
with you, how City of Angels? No, nope.
35:49
Okay. We're I think we're at that
35:50
point, we'll do a couple more rounds here and yeah, it feels
35:54
like feels like maybe the magic is gone.
35:59
Yeah, we might be running along gas.
36:03
Which is a bummer because will run away from Jill 7c.
36:08
I have what seven left. Yeah, there's plenty of
36:11
gameplay, like it's just the steam seems to be running out.
36:15
Let's find out. Jill, let's find out.
36:19
Here's one that maybe I think let's be still.
36:21
Yes, no, that was the one that I had left.
36:27
I don't like if it were any. Yeah, maybe that, that run of.
36:32
So It's Shake in the crew. Linda Let's Be Still.
36:37
I felt miserable because I had one of the three that was like
36:42
own. And looking at it.
36:44
I had the wrong one of the three, no bad problems that I
36:51
have. Yeah, again before we've got six
36:56
through, we got 10 in the combo, so it's not like we're in a bad
37:00
spot. No, not at all.
37:03
Randy. Let's give some more love to new
37:07
record. Virginia went through the night.
37:10
Yes, no, but I did almost because Virginia.
37:16
Yeah, I mean it's I know were Silly reason.
37:19
It definitely was on my first pass, but it did not did not
37:25
make it all right. Back to me.
37:32
How about rhythm and blues? Yes, I do have that.
37:36
O is to the pilot. It's gonna get brutal.
37:45
Just an in ready. All right, Jill, I only have two
37:48
left. Oh, look at, you know.
37:51
Sure, did. And I don't think either is
37:54
probably gonna be, you know, this, but living Raj.
37:57
Yes, I don't have that one. That's, I actually asked you
38:02
about the other night. Yeah.
38:06
Oof. It's gonna get brutal.
38:09
All right, Randy. Let's see.
38:12
Cross-linking mirage at the last, I have four left, two,
38:17
three left. I can't count.
38:19
How about this one kind of is one of the more like, you know,
38:24
passionate ones that doesn't have that epic moment.
38:28
It stays kind of acoustic and a little bit more sorrowful.
38:31
These days are numbered I don't have that either, that must have
38:38
been a lace late cut, because I just looked over my list, like
38:41
four times thinking I had it. And your days are numbered
38:47
indeed. So, since Jill's on the last
38:49
one, we'll just do this one last round and then Randy, and I can
38:51
dump out. Sure.
38:53
Um, let's see how about turn it around?
38:59
That was a late cut. I almost put that in.
39:02
I don't know why. Okay.
39:05
All right. I want to worked your last one
39:08
Jewel hurts. But it goes away.
39:10
How about that? Yeah, I don't but It sneaks in.
39:19
I think that's my favorite song from every should have lived the
39:23
outside of every shade of blue. I think that that one was
39:26
definitely the one. I didn't want to cut it is.
39:31
All right. Boom.
39:32
And boom. So we finish with sex, huh?
39:36
Yeah. So none of us are going to get
39:38
it. That's all right.
39:40
Hey, we just have to happens. Yeah, we just have to walk
39:42
through the last four together. All right.
39:45
Um, Do you want to give one more and then each of us will dump
39:48
out? We don't have to yeah.
39:50
One more. Oh, gone.
39:54
Nope. Nope, cheese.
39:58
We have so much in the conversation.
40:02
Sort this to make it easier so I can find gone real quick.
40:06
Randy. All right, and just for S and G,
40:11
even though I can say shits and giggles summertime.
40:16
And obviously we already know I don't have to wait summertime
40:22
take a walk. To see those crates, and I don't
40:28
mind. Yeah, that goes pretty far.
40:33
Like I said, signs of light. I had a real real problem with
40:38
and then, last but not least, was don't show your weakness.
40:44
That was, I think they play that.
40:45
They did play it someday and I almost changed my lips to add
40:49
it. Wow, it was really good life.
40:52
Yeah, that's why I put it into more consideration and I
40:55
probably would have We covered a lot of ground with I mean, I had
41:04
what like, for for one's right there at the end but we covered
41:08
that ground. Alright, so here's our
41:10
unanimous, all we ever knew every shade of blue ghosts lost
41:15
in my mind, Miss connection, see you through my eyes.
41:18
Now, here's where it gets 2014 14. 2010 need to get down to
41:24
four chord Eileen. Whatever, however you say it
41:29
down in the valley, honeybee hurts, but it goes away, I found
41:33
out. Let's be still living Raj rhythm
41:35
and blues, Rivers and Roads running through hell Shake.
41:39
Sounds like, Hallelujah, Virginia, wind in the night in
41:42
Winter song. I feel like Rivers and Roads was
41:46
like, yes, yes, yeah, easily easily one that I thought was
41:53
going to be an automatic. But all right, so that takes us
41:56
up to 7. So now Let's start thinking
41:58
about, is there something Jill that got put out there that you
42:02
like man I can't believe that one didn't hit. um, I know we
42:11
have a lot of subtitle buns, but down in the valley, I feel like
42:14
is again one of their like super standards.
42:16
Like a lot of people know it, it's really cool.
42:22
That's one that I was out on. So I would have to listen to it
42:26
again, to be a little convinced. Hmm, let's see.
42:33
All right, it's a good thing. I didn't say no.
42:47
If you're playing it, I can't hear it.
42:49
All right. It's, I was a slave to an angel
42:54
trade. Like riding around on real cars
43:01
and working long days. Very low key.
43:05
Yeah, we did. Okay, well, here's the thing.
43:11
We don't have a lot that really sounds like that just yet.
43:15
So I think that would be fine to put it in to kind of fill that
43:22
that Gap because you do need that.
43:27
So let's do that. Boom.
43:29
All right, so that takes us update.
43:31
Now the question becomes, do we care about album representation
43:35
or not? Because if we do, then that
43:37
probably leaves anything else from self-titled out.
43:43
A little bit but like just work off the songs that here's the
43:47
thing. I don't have any of the album's
43:49
next to me right now. So some of these, I have no idea
43:52
what record their off of like, what do we have.
43:56
I'm not even going to count like it doesn't matter.
44:01
How do you feel about album representation?
44:03
Jill, do you think, do you think that that weighs in at all or do
44:06
you think we just take best 10? I feel like with the different
44:12
band I might say, yeah, we should have like an even spread
44:14
across albums, but because they are so insistent that I think
44:18
people would get a really fair judge of who the band was sort
44:21
of regardless of what albums are drawn.
44:24
Yeah. Okay, so we managed to get
44:28
something from every shade of blue through unanimously.
44:32
I think we can get rid of the two.
44:34
I think that's fair, okay. So that takes hurts, but it goes
44:41
away out. Um, so what are some things here
44:45
that? All right, I'll let me ask you a
44:48
real hard question, Jill. I don't know if you've got a
44:52
list in front of you or if you need me to read you, okay?
44:56
Do you see one that's sitting here, still alive that you're
44:59
like, you know what, very cool that it made it this far but
45:03
really does not stand among the rest of these Well, I'm fairly
45:11
certain that the only one I that's on here that I didn't
45:14
have I think is a rhythm and blues.
45:17
So I would say that with that's fair.
45:21
Like I said I think that's the one.
45:23
I almost can't even say I know it because it's not.
45:26
Yeah, it's on the radar. That's not my guitar for sure.
45:30
The only one that you're not in on.
45:32
So it's alright. Same question to you Randy.
45:35
Is there something that you're Do you like yeah?
45:42
Well here I'm going to answer it.
45:44
Like this two songs that I will go to bat for right now or I
45:48
found out and sounds like, hallelujah.
45:50
How you, how do you guys feel about that support both of
45:53
those. All right.
45:56
I'll sort it out to like, you know, just like very obvious
46:01
ones to me as a fan of the band. Like sounds like, Hallelujah is
46:04
like an epic like gospel. Like right, so good and it kind
46:09
of reminds me of a little bit of jeez.
46:12
What's the Paul McCartney song? Now, it's not coming to mind the
46:18
famous one, we're all different pieces, kind of sound like all
46:24
different songs shit. What the hell is the name of
46:27
that song ban on the Run first and On The Run where it's like
46:33
all these different? Yeah it's got all these
46:34
different parts to it. Kind of starts off slow and then
46:37
Really ramps up with the horn section and everything like
46:40
that. Alright, see ya.
46:45
All right, so you're looking at So if we take both, that's it,
46:49
we're done. Is there anything else alive gel
46:51
that you feel like is better than those two?
46:58
I mean, Shake, Ya shake and Shake is good.
47:04
No good. And again live.
47:08
It's like magical, right? Like the crowd, the crowd loves
47:13
that song. It's just really transformative.
47:16
Like it gets people really hyped.
47:18
So maybe that's coloring my my view about it but I think that.
47:22
So you think that that should be in over I found out I could kill
47:25
it like pain to say that. Because I love I found out.
47:28
It's one of love that song, I love that song.
47:31
So let's let's do the thing. That never works.
47:33
Justin. Well before I before I even get
47:36
there, I'm going to put another facet into play here because I
47:40
know we said we don't care about realm representation but let's
47:44
be still not represented Shake is off at all.
47:47
Let's be still. That's okay.
47:51
That gives it a little bit more. That's a great reptile Felicia.
47:54
Yeah, right. That would be the one beside it.
47:57
Even over left. Yes, I agree.
48:00
So let's hear a little bit of both to make this even worse.
48:04
Yeah. As already mentioned, I was
48:09
listening to this early as a call.
48:10
Why did I not? It's got a great progression but
48:33
you play the, you always say that like if the first three
48:36
seconds, you know, pulls you in right away.
48:41
That's what I found out is, that's true.
48:44
Oh God, that's that's actually look at all.
48:47
That's true. It's Gonna Save Our Lives, I
48:53
found out. How is that?
48:55
How is this song not? And all-time number one hit,
49:01
like that should have been Huge, top, 40 radio, play that song.
49:07
I'm like, that's what that sounds like to me.
49:09
I know, I know, I know. But like, it, shouldn't.
49:14
It shouldn't be dictated off of whose top 40.
49:17
It should be dictated off of one of the best songs that people
49:20
should be listening to. So, is it between those two do
49:26
we? I think, so we kind of said,
49:28
sounds like, Hallelujah would be in, right?
49:30
Yeah. Okay, so that one's definitely
49:32
in. So I don't mean out there.
49:35
All right, so the question becomes Shake versus I found
49:41
out, right? Yeah.
49:44
Okay. I think I am.
49:50
Okay, go ahead, Justin. I mean I'm just gonna say like
49:52
really the only, the only argument is Is album
49:57
representation if we've already kind of thrown that out as far
50:00
as we don't really care. So if we don't really care, I
50:06
found out gets you immediately. I think Shake does as well but
50:11
like in a different way like I found out has has that that
50:17
radio thing that you're talking about like a mediator, I do like
50:20
that shit. That if, if that came on a 94
50:24
you guys don't know. 94 99. But it's a topic.
50:27
I know what enough because he mentioned in every yeah.
50:30
But if it came on a top 40 station, you wouldn't go.
50:33
What the fuck is this? You know, like, it sounds like
50:37
it belongs there. Whereas shake you could hear on
50:40
you know your alt rock station and it wouldn't sound out of
50:43
place and right you know. So I don't have a horse in a
50:47
race. I think both are are adequate.
50:50
So if somebody has an argument for one or the other I'm open.
50:55
I mean I think we're on split sides but really, really close -
50:59
it feels a little like Sophie's Choice.
51:01
Like they're both great, they're both great.
51:04
And, yeah, I don't know. I just feel like looking at the
51:07
top 10, like, looking at what we have so far both, I feel like
51:12
both of the types of those songs are sort of represented like,
51:16
you know, Miss connection is very like radio-friendly.
51:20
Hmm. That's true.
51:21
But like Rivers and Roads and down the valley are very like,
51:25
all the info key. So it's, you know, it's not like
51:28
we don't have something right there, you know, if we don't
51:32
pick one of them, but when we pick one of them, I think kind
51:37
of going back to the album representation thing they have
51:40
five albums. And it's, you know, when we're
51:44
thinking about, we can leave this album out.
51:46
It's usually one, we've gone through six or seven and that is
51:50
an easy decision. But if we're fighting for
51:53
something off, let's be still and it's not represented.
51:57
I look, I think that that's like the closest tiebreaker we have
52:02
out of this. I'm fine.
52:04
Putting chicken. All right, let's do it because
52:09
the heat you wanted them, he made the choice for you.
52:19
All right so I can't wait to tired of this because all right
52:22
so here's here's a 10 because the Heats only get it's only
52:25
going to get hotter. Jill!
52:26
All we ever knew every shade of blue ghosts lost in my mind,
52:30
Miss connection, see you through my eyes Rivers and Roads down in
52:33
the valley sounds like Hallelujah.
52:35
Mia and Shake. Now based on those 10 songs,
52:39
which of those is the one that you hand off to somebody.
52:45
Forgot that. This was part of this guy, the
52:49
part. I don't know, like forensic for
53:01
different reasons. Is this is tough.
53:04
I don't have like an absolute number one.
53:09
I feel like it's a few options, put them in the play.
53:16
I mean, they're all options to me.
53:27
To me, I think it's down to three and they're all from the
53:29
Same album, so this doesn't happen.
53:34
But I think that loss of my mind, Rivers and Roads and down
53:36
the valley, our heart. I think that like, it's off her
53:41
self-titled first album. It's who they are.
53:43
It's who they were, and it's who they are, right?
53:45
And I think that okay, I'm lost in my mind or down the valley I
53:51
think are the two. Well it's funny that you took
53:54
Rivers and Roads off that my Remember how I said before that
53:57
there was one that was going to make the list that I would not
54:01
argue for the top. 10 is actually represent roads because
54:05
I just think that if you put that on somebody new, it's not
54:10
exactly representative. It's like it's fully
54:12
representative, but it's way too epic.
54:16
It's like, it's like if you made, Hey, Jude the number one,
54:18
you know? Yeah.
54:19
Like it's bigger than what they are almost I think I think my
54:26
answer is lost in my mind again that is my number one favorite
54:29
song by this band has my my number one fear song for like
54:32
ten years but I think that I has everything it has that really
54:36
cool foki you know start to it has this like beautiful build
54:40
and its really epic and pianos really nice.
54:44
Yeah. Like the vocals are incredible
54:47
and I think it's also very it's very radio friendly and you know
54:52
approachable and at it you know people wouldn't Because the
54:56
journal people wouldn't be a, you know, like what the fuck is
54:58
this? Really like, this is a cool
55:00
song, right? And hopefully one listen to what
55:02
my sister who was with us on Sunday when I told her, that's
55:05
my favorite song. She was like those who TM goods
55:09
and she had number. She didn't know that before.
55:11
So yeah, I think that's my back, but I'm biased.
55:14
Well, it's a good thing that one of my to that I'm fighting for
55:16
is lost in my mind. So it could be easily swayed in
55:20
that direction. I think for lost in my mind, yet
55:25
has that Her vibe that they go for, but also all we ever knew
55:30
kind of has that like, big it's a big feeling song, like when
55:34
they play that live, like everybody kind of gets up on it
55:38
and they kind of follow along on it.
55:42
You're looking at me. Like, no, I totally do that but
55:46
I think it's too big. It's like Rivers.
55:48
Our whole thing is too big. Okay.
55:50
Because that's like they they have some of those like very you
55:52
know, fully epic songs. Right?
55:54
But then they also these like incredibly Up too slow beautiful
55:57
songs that I think a song like lost my mind and there's other
55:59
ones sort of capture all of that, right?
56:03
But I do love Holly. I mean, the intro at all we ever
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knew that, uh, like that hooks you right away.
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So Justin any thoughts? Yeah, my inclination is to go
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with lost in my mind because number one, Emily said it,
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right? So like it's a fourth person on
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top of the three of us who agreed on it, right?
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It's just Joe John kind of getting more influence on this
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episode of any actually should. You know, it's everywhere I go
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John has to be part of the de program but but more.
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So the fact that I listen to it in immediately regretted it, not
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having it and made it that last-minute cut.
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And you know after listening to it, it probably would have been
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further up my list. I think that speaks to the song,
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you know, I couldn't tell you why I caught it initially but
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the That I heard it in immediately was like, no, this
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should be this absolutely should be on there.
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So I think that does speak to something about the song.
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So I look I uh I kind of had that as number one but had only
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ever knew was kind of a conversation starter here so you
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can't really argue with that. Look.
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I think that one's. Let's do it.
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Let's lock it in. All right, so let me go through
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this. Lost in my mind is our number
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one, all we ever knew every shade of blue ghosts missed
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connection see-through, see you through my eyes.
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I can read I promise Rivers and Roads down in the valley.
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Sounds like, Hallelujah, and Shake rounds out our 10.
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Let's let lost my mind. Get his moment in the Sun.
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Our and the harmonies are what they do.
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Best. Oh man, we have done it.
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That would be a really cool way to say thank you as well or just
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