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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Friday, May twenty fourth. I'm your
- 0:03host, Tom Moore. The Akron game in ninety nine days, the game
- 0:06again to Michigan in one hundred and ninety days. This has been a very
- 0:10busy month in the college football TV world. Lots of news, lots of
- 0:15rumors, lots of interesting stuff coming in a season full of new and exciting
- 0:20things. The TV coverage is going to be new and exciting as well.
- 0:24So this is a show I've been looking forward to for several weeks now as
- 0:27some of this news has started percolating out, bringing on Matt sarsfromatsarasports dot com,
- 0:32the leading expert in terms of all the fun nitty gritty minutia around TV.
- 0:38When we wanted, you know, when we get asked on our board,
- 0:41you know, hey, what time is the ohuse ht Oregon game going
- 0:43to be? We look at what does Matt sarrs say? Because Matt Sars
- 0:47is the leading expert in all of this stuff and some we've had on the
- 0:50show a number of times before. Matt, Welcome back. Let's just start
- 0:55this time with just run through. There's some new new lineups this year in
- 1:00the Big Ten not nearly as big of a change as last year, but
- 1:03just can you run through what we know about which networks are going to be
- 1:06televising Big Ten games this year and you know when those games are going to
- 1:10be on? Sure? And thanks for thanks for having me on again,
- 1:12Tom. The partners are sectually the same as last year, Fox, NBC,
- 1:19CBS, FS one, Peacock, and Big Ten Network. CBS will
- 1:26now have instead of being kind of piecemeal throughout twenty twenty three, they will
- 1:33have a regular window every week at three thirty pm Eastern Time. That's due
- 1:38to their SEC contract ending and that content going to Disney Networks. NBC will
- 1:47be seven thirty nearly each week. There will be a couple weeks that are
- 1:52known that Notre Dame will have a game in prime time. After that,
- 1:59Fox should typically be at noon. A little bit unclear on Week one.
- 2:02I think we'll we'll talk about that a little bit later. Beyond that,
- 2:07FS one, Big Ten Network, Peacock, they're kind of the second tier
- 2:12of partners. And the belief when we look at, for example, what
- 2:16Fox just released yesterday with their Friday night football schedule is that some of the
- 2:23selections that Fox made for those Friday night games came from that second tier.
- 2:30The belief is they these were games that likely Fox wouldn't earmark for big noon
- 2:37on a Saturday. But these are games that they targeted that, hey,
- 2:42are you willing to move for uh some nice exposure on a Friday night?
- 2:46And you know, these these games were picked and moved and giving up you
- 2:53know, some schools some nice needed exposure that they may not get otherwise.
- 2:58And also from what I saw too, they're showcasing a fair amount of the
- 3:04four new editions Washington, Oregon, USC and UCLA and getting those schools a
- 3:12game on Fox that they may not otherwise get because of their location. And
- 3:16really they can't host a big noon game at the Bolve Eastern. All right,
- 3:24So now let's I wanted to talk a little bit about the selection process.
- 3:28People may have heard a little bit about the draft that the networks do,
- 3:31and you know, I think everyone, probably most people know, Fox
- 3:35gets the first overall pick in that draft. And this is a draft of
- 3:38the draft weeks. They're not just picking I want this game. They're saying,
- 3:42I want the first pick of this week, of all the games this
- 3:45week, I want the first pick of the Big Ten games that week.
- 3:46So that's an important distinction to draw here. And you know, I have
- 3:52Tony Gerderman and I sat down with one of the executives last year at the
- 3:54Big Ten media Days and tried to come at him from about seventeen different ways,
- 3:59and it was just the two of us sitting with him for about fifteen
- 4:00minutes and trying to get any information we could, and it just wouldn't talk
- 4:05about it. Wouldn't talk about it, can't talk about it, wouldn't talk
- 4:09about it. However, with all that selection on the selection secrets here on
- 4:14the selection process, I think we may be about to learn a lot more
- 4:18about that selection process because, just like the NFL Draft, the networks made
- 4:24a trade and networks traded draft picks during this draft this year, which means
- 4:28I think at some point we might be able to put a lot more of
- 4:30the pieces together. So can you explain a little bit about that trade and
- 4:34then what we might be able to glean from that, whether that's weeks or
- 4:38months down the road. Sure. On a podcast earlier this week, for
- 4:42those who haven't heard it, Fox Sports Joel Clap, their lead analysts for
- 4:47their Big New Game had Mike Mulva Hill, who is one of their vice
- 4:53presidents, really big in analytics and research. Mike revealed that they had chosen
- 5:01Ohio State Michigan well, I should say week thirteen at noon as their first
- 5:08choice, which ends up being Ohio State Michigan. They then chose Texas at
- 5:13Michigan or New Non September seventh, and you could. They also announced Alabama
- 5:21Wisconsin on the fourth, September fourteenth at noon. It appears that wasn't the
- 5:28third choice though. They revealed that they had the third choice and elected to
- 5:34trade with another network, which they did not divulge and instead ended up with
- 5:44what appears to be the first choice on November two, and another first choice
- 5:50somewhere else in what appears to be the top seven. And I believe Mike
- 5:57mentioned that Fox has like five of the first in this draft. Anyways,
- 6:03five of the first seven number one picks, so it looks And they talked
- 6:10about how they looked at Ohio State Oregon heavily and they could not play it
- 6:16at noon Eastern because it's out in Eugene and they would have had to adjust
- 6:24their marketing around the concept of big Noon if it was played at three thirty
- 6:31or potentially later in the day, so they ended up trading the pick.
- 6:36It looks like they've they've earmarked November two, which is Ohio State Penn State.
- 6:44And also I believe Oregon Michigan as their potential two choices that day with
- 6:53this pick that they've they've chosen, and that whichever network gets Ohio State Oregon
- 6:59is going to get it in a very good window, either three thirty Eastern
- 7:03or seven thirty eastern. And it's something that that network, whenever they decide
- 7:08to announce anything about it, will be able to promote. So all right,
- 7:13you just a tremendous tease there. You just talked about the Ohio State
- 7:16Penn State game and the fact that that's Fox has the first pick, but
- 7:19also that's Michigan Oregon week. So that's depending on how the season plays out,
- 7:24Ohio State Penn State might not be the first game picked that week,
- 7:28but then you also have Ohio State Oregon and you didn't say it. I
- 7:31don't think directly there, but we don't actually know which network traded with Fox
- 7:36to get the Ohio State Oregon week this week seven. So I'm sure people
- 7:43right now are going, well, Okay, what do you think which is
- 7:46Ohio State Oregon going to be on CBS at three thirty? Is it going
- 7:50to be a night game on NBC? Ohio State Penn State? But you
- 7:55know what, that one, I think is even more a little a little
- 7:58more unfair because we're sort of asking you to say, Okay, what are
- 8:01they going to decide to do with all the information that they're going to have
- 8:03after eight weeks of the season. So with the understanding that these are both
- 8:09very unfair questions to ask you, uh, Matt, when is the Ohio
- 8:11State Oregon game in air on week seven? And when is the Ohio State
- 8:15Penn State game Goeta air week ten? Uh? When I did my initial
- 8:20guesses kind of across the season, thinking like what are the top three games
- 8:24that Fox would choose, I actually lumped Alabama Wisconsin into it, and I
- 8:28figured at that point, you know, CBS would look like a really good
- 8:33choice for Ohio State Oregon on in mid October, and then Ohio State Penn
- 8:41State would fit would have fit really well for NBC because Penn State likes their
- 8:46whiteouts and it would have been a night game and it would have fit with
- 8:52what NBC, you know, has for their package. So I kind of
- 8:56leaned into that at the time, knowing now at Ohio State Penn State still
- 9:03could end up on Fox that they owned the top choice, and they went
- 9:07into some details with respect to political advertising. Is why they they went with
- 9:15looking at that week as a top choice. I think that one will be
- 9:20at noon, I you know, provided everything shakes out, you know in
- 9:24Ohio State and Penn State or on that collision course for either being undefeated or
- 9:30maybe one of the teams at all a loss, I think they'll look at
- 9:35you. Fox will look at that as a big noon and I think CBS
- 9:39in the end will be looking at the the Ohio State Oregon game. I
- 9:45think NBC will have some great choices along the way. It's so interesting.
- 9:52A year or two ago when I hedg you on we were talking about some
- 9:54pit game, and you know, the time of the pit game was going
- 9:58to be impacted by the fact that the Pittsburgh pileate It's we're playing a game
- 10:01that day at home as well, and they shared parking grosses. When everything
- 10:07came out, I looked, I remember talking about that, and then I
- 10:09looked, I'm like, they totally went against everything I said. Yeah,
- 10:13well, and but now now you're there. You know, Fox is making
- 10:16this decision decision based on political ads because of course that's the Saturday before the
- 10:22presidential election. And boy, if you have an audience of Penn State and
- 10:26Ohio State people, those are two swing states potentially in the election. So,
- 10:30uh, you may want to buy tickets for that one. Otherwise you're
- 10:33going to see a lot of you know, my name is so and so,
- 10:35and I've endorsed this ad. I prove this ad on your TV.
- 10:39Uh so that so there's Those are both very interesting factors that could play into
- 10:45that and with those with that game, if it doesn't, it doesn't have
- 10:48to get announced immediately. Fox doesn't have to announce that it's big nowon right
- 10:52now, which means you could get into the season with Penn State unsure of
- 10:56is that going to be a white out or is it there? Are they
- 10:58just going to say it's a white out regardless even if it's at noon because
- 11:01they've typically done those just for night games. So another fun little dynamic there.
- 11:07I'm sure James Franklin will be thrilled about that. He was, He
- 11:09had lots of thoughts on the white out thing. When we got to talk
- 11:13about Big ten media days a couple of years ago, when the Ohio State
- 11:16Penn State game was a noon game that year. All right, little peek
- 11:20behind the curtain. This conversation with Matt ended up going way longer than I
- 11:24thought it would because there was a ton of interesting stuff to talk about.
- 11:28So we're actually gonna split this into two shows. You're gonna get this one
- 11:31today kind of focused on the Ohio State side of things. Early next week
- 11:35you're gonna get the one talking kind of more big picture ESPN. Are they
- 11:39going after Fox and the noon window? Is Fox really trying to plant their
- 11:41flag on Friday nights? What's the deal with the college football playoff TNT sub
- 11:46license from ESPN? A whole bunch of that fun stuff. We're talking all
- 11:50about that with Matt on a show early next week, so you'll get to
- 11:54you can look forward to that over the holiday weekend and while you were spending
- 11:58some time grilling and all of the fun stuff you're going to do over the
- 12:01holiday weekend, make sure you check out Mattsars sports dot com as well.
- 12:05That is an incredible resource if you want to try and understand the TV business.
- 12:09He's got all the details in there about the contracts with the leagues and
- 12:13the different networks and the you know, this team has to appear on you
- 12:16know, teams tough to appere on this network. So many times, there
- 12:20is a ton that goes into understanding this. We get a million questions about
- 12:22what time is the kickoff going to be for this game, and the answer
- 12:26is, it's really complicated. But check Matt Sars because he is he is
- 12:28the guy we check. You should check him there too at mattsarssports dot com.
- 12:33Also, make sure you check us out at buckeyehuddle dot com. That'll
- 12:37do it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a
- 12:39great day, enjoy the holiday weekend. We'll talk to you next week.