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I Am All In…Again: About Time She Had a Jess (Season 3 E8 “Let the Games Begin”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's you.
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  Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one
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  Speaker 1: eleven productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcasts. We are at season three,
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  Speaker 1: episode eight, and this is entitled Let the Games Begin.
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  Speaker 1: Air date November nineteenth, two thousand and two, and we're
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  Speaker 1: joined by a very special guest, Emily Osmond. Welcome, Emily.
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  Speaker 1: How are you so good?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a pleasure to have you. You are freezing
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  Speaker 1: over there at Warner Brothers.
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  Speaker 3: I am, Yes, I am.
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  Speaker 2: I am about probably twenty five yards from Luke Steyn
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  Speaker 2: right now, which.
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  Speaker 1: Is twenty five yards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say about twenty five yards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's a soul cold here. Everywhere it's freezing.
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  Speaker 1: All the California right now is experiencing a little cold snap. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: after after oceans of rain. But you're over there at
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  Speaker 1: Warner Brothers. You're shooting your hit show Georgie and Mandy
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  Speaker 1: on CBS. We're thrilled to have you. You're a big
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  Speaker 1: Gilmore fan. We're going to get into it. Let's synopsize
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  Speaker 1: here while visiting new Haven, Connecticut. Richard announces that he
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  Speaker 1: has arranged a surprise visit an interview for Rory with
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  Speaker 1: the dean of admissions at Yale University, not Harvard, but
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  Speaker 1: at Yale. Oh, there's trouble in River City and the
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  Speaker 1: sheriffs Laura l I and she's going to be putting
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  Speaker 1: a hurting down on any violators. Jess and Rory start
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  Speaker 1: to date, and this worries Luke. Director Steve Robman and
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  Speaker 1: this very little known writer, up and coming writer name
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  Speaker 1: or Amy Sherman Palladino. Are you guys aware of anything
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  Speaker 1: she's done?
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  Speaker 4: Me?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely not.
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  Speaker 2: No, never anything else that she's done ever, No, Emmy's
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  Speaker 2: no nothing, No.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely no, okay, just one of the giants of the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment industry. Before we get into it, Emily, what made
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  Speaker 1: you start watching Gilmore Girls?
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  Speaker 3: That is an excellent question. Well, an answer you're probably
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  Speaker 3: not expecting.
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  Speaker 2: I think why I initially started watching Gilmore Girls is
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  Speaker 2: because I wasn't allowed to growing up. It was a
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  Speaker 2: show that was I was I'm thirty three now, so
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  Speaker 2: when Gilmore Girls was really hitting it stride, I was
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  Speaker 2: a little too still a little too young for it
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  Speaker 2: and of course, was fascinated by the concept of this show.
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  Speaker 3: All my friends were watching it, and my parents were.
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  Speaker 2: A little protective of what we watched on television, and
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  Speaker 2: it was something I could never watch until I was
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  Speaker 2: in my probably early twenties, and I went through. I
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  Speaker 2: went through all of it, and I fell in love
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  Speaker 2: with it, and now, to be quite honest, probably every
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  Speaker 2: year since then, I have gone through it again.
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  Speaker 5: It's required at this point, it's required of a girl.
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  Speaker 1: There's no question. There's no question. How many times would
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  Speaker 1: you say, you know, because I've.
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  Speaker 3: Done the math and I really am.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, it's probably like thousands of hours of Gilmore
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  Speaker 2: Girls at this point, like probably spent like an entire year. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let's think what you got five seasons right, without including
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  Speaker 2: the that we're sad sorry, seven seasons without including the
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  Speaker 2: four one hour episodes that aired recently. And then I
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  Speaker 2: heard there's a documentary coming out, so we're just gonna
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  Speaker 2: we're just adding to the watch our count at this point.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's a lot a perfect show.
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  Speaker 2: It's a I'm just it's wonderful to sink in and
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  Speaker 2: pull yourself out of whatever is going on in your
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  Speaker 2: life and PLoP yourself down into Stars Hollow.
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  Speaker 3: It's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: It does have that medicinal therapeutic vibe to it, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely Yeah, it's impossible not to feel better after viewing
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes of it, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Wonderful show.
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  Speaker 5: So I have a question as somebody who's done a
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  Speaker 5: lot of work at Warner Brothers and both young Sheldon
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  Speaker 5: and Georgie and Mandy use the back lot. So is
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  Speaker 5: it weird when you're watching Gilmour Girls and you like
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  Speaker 5: remember having just been there, you know, last week to
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  Speaker 5: shoot a scene.
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  Speaker 2: It's I wouldn't say weird. I love it so much.
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  Speaker 2: I have my I bring my dog to work and
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  Speaker 2: I walk. I let Joe poop all over Stars Hollows.
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  Speaker 3: It's great.
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  Speaker 2: But no, when I have like friends and family come visit,
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  Speaker 2: we have We're a live audience show, so people.
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  Speaker 3: Come and visit on Tuesday nights, and after.
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  Speaker 2: The show is done, you know, we'll go out into
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  Speaker 2: the back lot and of course there's the friends fountain
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  Speaker 2: that's there.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm like, oh, come look at.
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  Speaker 2: Stars Hollow, come over here, like we just came for
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  Speaker 2: your show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like but you get this too.
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  Speaker 1: All right awesome, And before we get to into the recap,
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  Speaker 1: you there? All right, let's get into the episode a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Rory comes over after school and she to
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  Speaker 1: the diner that is, and she go upstairs to look
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  Speaker 1: at a book. It's awkward and nervous. They almost kiss,
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  Speaker 1: and who breaks in? They're nervous around each other because
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  Speaker 1: it's finally happening between them. Yeah, but who busts in?
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  Speaker 3: You?
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  Speaker 1: I do I come in and put a stop to
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  Speaker 1: that nonsense?
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  Speaker 3: Right, How would the timing work on that? Because it
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  Speaker 3: was pretty good. Do you take your own queue or
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  Speaker 3: was there somebody outside.
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  Speaker 1: Being like, okay, go somebody else? Yeah? There, there's there
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  Speaker 1: was somebody outside saying oh yeah, yeah, and they and
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  Speaker 1: they are very good at that because we had to
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  Speaker 1: do that a lot. Yeah, a lot of that in
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  Speaker 1: the show. So it's always somebody queueing you. Very rare,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you could take your own queue if
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  Speaker 1: it was just a site line and you weren't going
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  Speaker 1: to be you know, in camera range.
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  Speaker 2: But sure, the timing is perfect on that show. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure there was a lot of that, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, obsessively. So they almost kiss, yeah, and Luke
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  Speaker 1: gives him a little what for, you know, like what
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  Speaker 1: he's he ain't gonna tolerate. Do you think, Emily that
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  Speaker 1: Luke was a little over the top with that or
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  Speaker 1: is that an appropriate amount of protective Luke for.
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  Speaker 2: I love this moment for your character because it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of the first time we've seen him had to be
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  Speaker 2: stepping into a fatherly figure, and so it's sort of
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  Speaker 2: like he's busting at the seams to sort of do
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  Speaker 2: this for her. For Rory and the way that he's
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  Speaker 2: shown up for her for so long as he feeds her,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and how he gets to have this other
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  Speaker 2: role which is really protecting her and as much as
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  Speaker 2: it is about, you know, keeping everybody in line, I
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  Speaker 2: think that really stems from he wants to protect Rory
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  Speaker 2: and and.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think my parents probably would have reacted the same way.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's okay they don't listen to you.
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  Speaker 5: But what kind of a hard position for him though,
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  Speaker 5: because he's protecting Rory from his own family member, So
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of a weird little situation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows what kind of guy he is, and
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  Speaker 2: he's worried about it and he's put in this position
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  Speaker 2: where he feels like he has to put him up.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, don't screw up this relationship with Rory,
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  Speaker 1: and moreover, do not screw up my relationship with Laura.
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  Speaker 3: Law exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, well, Ory and Jests are
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  Speaker 1: nervous around each other, and Emily, we know your team, Jess. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we get that, we got the memo.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, what are.
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  Speaker 1: Your thoughts when you first saw this episode?
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  Speaker 2: Like finally, I think probably I think I was a
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  Speaker 2: little and you know, no shade to anybody else, but
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  Speaker 2: I think I was getting a little tired of the
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  Speaker 2: way Dean would talk to Rory's very controlling of Rory.
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  Speaker 2: He's clearly very jealous, and I think I was waiting
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  Speaker 2: for a character that was kind of more on her same.
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  Speaker 3: Intelligence level and height.
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  Speaker 2: And I wanted to see somebody else come into the picture.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Laura I even has like a line
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  Speaker 2: in this that's like, you know, she's seventeen, it's about
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  Speaker 2: time she had a which I think was is perfect
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sure, yeah, it made me think about all
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  Speaker 2: the justices in my life too. But the arc of
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  Speaker 2: his character throughout the whole series is it grows so much,
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  Speaker 2: it changes, And I think that's why I am team
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  Speaker 2: Jess because at the end of the day, like he
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  Speaker 2: fights for her, he believes in her, he pushes her,
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  Speaker 2: And that's the kind of partner that you want to have,
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  Speaker 2: even if they don't end up together. I think you
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  Speaker 2: want somebody that's on that's on your side, right right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, If not romantically, at least a good close friend
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  Speaker 1: who really knows you and can nail you and like
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  Speaker 1: him you know, and say that and say the truth
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  Speaker 1: without repercussions. Yeah, yes, I agree, I agree in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: As a friend, yes, I would say I am team
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  Speaker 1: Jess as well as a friend.
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  Speaker 3: As a friend, sure, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we can agree on that, all right. Uh. Rory
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  Speaker 1: asked Laura Lai to support her with Jess because Laura
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  Speaker 1: I ain't digging the I d Rory gets back from
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  Speaker 1: ye Out, she meets up with Jess, plants one on him,
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  Speaker 1: and then she says she's gotta go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that gas pump scene.
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  Speaker 3: Like stumbling to put this cigarette back in the pocket and.
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  Speaker 5: Man, I tell you, yeah, and it's it's like hot
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  Speaker 5: and heavy for a second, and then she's like, oh wait,
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  Speaker 5: I gotta go.
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  Speaker 2: I know, but I love that because she goes to
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  Speaker 2: sort of make sure it's right, because she's such a
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  Speaker 2: good girl, like she wants to make sure, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she's starting to really feel something. She's like, I got
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  Speaker 2: to make sure I've got all my you know, my
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  Speaker 2: t's crossed and my eyes got it before I really
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  Speaker 2: get into this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little nerve wracking pulling. He's pulling out
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  Speaker 1: a cigarette next to a gas pump, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: please don't light that up. Just could have tragic consequences.
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  Speaker 5: A whole different show, Like that's not real.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like, you know the James Dean
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  Speaker 1: barbecue roast, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well you got er filming right next door, so
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  Speaker 5: it would have been perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Oh perfect, Yeah, brothers apartment, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, a couple of blocks down, calling George Clooney come
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  Speaker 1: on and help us out over here. All right, let's uh,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into a little bit of Luke and Jess
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more anyway. Supportive of Rory and Jess.
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  Speaker 1: He's finally getting together, but he doesn't really have any
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  Speaker 1: clue how to handle it, so he just handles it
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  Speaker 1: the way Luke handles it. He sets the ground rules,
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  Speaker 1: Jess agrees to those ground rules, and Laurel I knows
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  Speaker 1: how it is with teens, and is teasing Luke as
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  Speaker 1: he squirms on how to deal with this situation. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think do you trust Jess with Rory?
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  Speaker 5: I do?
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  Speaker 2: I do, And I don't know whether that's just because
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  Speaker 2: sometimes I have bad taste in men, but I do.
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  Speaker 3: I do trust that. You know, he's it's it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be okay.
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  Speaker 2: There's something there's something about him that I think he
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  Speaker 2: himself is also protective of her, and I think his
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  Speaker 2: rebellion in some ways, as it does cross over into
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  Speaker 2: their relationship occasionally, I think he's really just.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to work it out for himself.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he would ever hurt her, But I
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  Speaker 2: do love that moment at the diner where you guys
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  Speaker 2: are talking about how I've given him a big, strong talk.
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  Speaker 2: He's not gonna he's gonna stay away from her. They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be respectful, and she's like, really, because they're together.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff, really great stuff.
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  Speaker 5: And then he tries to turn it around on Laura Lin, like,
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  Speaker 5: how did you try that.
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  Speaker 3: How can you let them? She doesn't even have her sweater? Like,
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  Speaker 3: what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Right? Right? Right?
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  Speaker 3: Perfect?
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  Speaker 1: I know those two they're wacky. Uh, all right, now
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna deal with Richard and his little surprise. Guys, guys, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what do we think of Richard here? I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: not about taking sides, it's about seeing it from everybody's perspective.
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  Speaker 1: And I can see it from his perspective. I can
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  Speaker 1: see it from Laurelized perspective, which makes great drama, right,
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  Speaker 1: It really does make great conflict. But inevitably, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you want to kind of I don't know, there's there's
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  Speaker 1: an impulse to say, well, he's being manipulative, right, and
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  Speaker 1: laurelize over but Laurel lie overreacting. What is it? Emily?
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel about this?
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  Speaker 2: I have complicated emotions about this whole thing, because I
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  Speaker 2: think I know that Richard and Emily are trying to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that Rory is protected and that she's she's
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  Speaker 2: getting everything she needs out of life, and that she
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  Speaker 2: has every opportunity, and they're giving her all of that.
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  Speaker 2: And and I think even the way that when it
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  Speaker 2: turns out he's sort of set this whole thing up
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  Speaker 2: for her to meet with the is a dean of
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  Speaker 2: admission or something.
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  Speaker 3: The whole reason they're they're so she can meet with
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  Speaker 3: the demon missions. I love the way it's written that
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  Speaker 3: Rory goes in there.
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  Speaker 2: She crushes it, but then she's like, you didn't let
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  Speaker 2: me prepare. And the way she responds it's not rude
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  Speaker 2: and it's not harsh.
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  Speaker 3: It's her reacting.
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  Speaker 2: From a place of like, I would have done this
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  Speaker 2: for you if you had asked me to. And I
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  Speaker 2: love the way that Emily protects her husband because you
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  Speaker 2: can see all over her face he didn't tell her either,
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  Speaker 2: and he sends the whole day being like, this is
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  Speaker 2: where we kissed, and this is where I proposed, and
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  Speaker 2: isn't this magical?
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  Speaker 3: And then he just kind of shits all over it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think his reaction to Laura I of like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you never went to college, you never went
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  Speaker 2: to an ivy league school.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know what you're dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: It's demeaning, but it's coming from a place that he
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  Speaker 2: knows he's wrong, because why else would you respond in
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  Speaker 2: that way unless you know that you kind of screwed
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  Speaker 2: up the way this was supposed to go.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's a really well written I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was. I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just furthers the delta, the gulf between Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Lorelei and.
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  Speaker 3: Her family parents.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it's very very very supple, let's let's call it
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  Speaker 1: a very supple spine in this in this storytelling because
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  Speaker 1: of that tension of them getting closer and closer and
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  Speaker 1: maybe there's going to be a little love expressed between
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  Speaker 1: the two sides. And it's always dash.
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  Speaker 2: It's something and it's both sides doing it wrong, and
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  Speaker 2: they can't blame one party. It's both of them handling
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  Speaker 2: every situation like if one side just gave a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it would change everything. And know everybody is
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  Speaker 2: so stubborn and they can't they can't find a middle ground.
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  Speaker 1: But on the other hand, wasn't it very nice to
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  Speaker 1: take a little trip down memory lane with Richard and
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  Speaker 1: Emily about how they met, they kissed and like that.
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  Speaker 5: It was fun to get their backstory.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember where they where did they shoot Yale?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think that's U s la
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  Speaker 1: Is in.
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  Speaker 5: UCLA this episode we talked about this when we recorded
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  Speaker 5: town meeting this episode Pomona College you out there? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the Harvard visit in season one was UCLA.
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  Speaker 3: Did you guys ever, guys ever go to Occidental College?
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember? That's right, That's where I went to school.
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  Speaker 2: And every time I watch anything, I see campus because
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  Speaker 2: it's a beautiful campus and a lot of people shoot there.
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  Speaker 5: They they may have in I think in season seven
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  Speaker 5: when Lorelei and I forgot his name, Christopher, I blanked
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  Speaker 5: on his name when they went to the parents' day,
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  Speaker 5: that may have been.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: It may have been Okay, yeah, I'm always always curious or.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: A usc it was one of those two, got it?
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Well, it was just curious.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: It's very nice to find out a little backstory between
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: those two. It really was.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, Emily was the other woman, Like, who knew?
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I can see it right, I like it?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: So h you know. Laurel I adamantly defends Laurie Rory
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: demands that she is going to Harvard, no questions to ask.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: They argue about it, as you mentioned, Emily, her Laurelize
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: lack of education comes up in the conversation, which, man,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: what a low blow. What a low blow. But Richard,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I mean he's got the right intentions. It's hard to
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: really assign one hundred percent blame anywhere, but you know, man,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you get one shot at this thing. He isn't wrong,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: he isn't wrong about what he's doing, but he's wrong
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: about the way he went about doing right well, anyway,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: it just humanizes the character or even more, doesn't it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: You know, even Richard makes a little mistake. We're getting
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: into this closing scene where Rory goes to talk to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Dean by climbing up a tree and knocking on his window.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Something Rory's never done ever.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: C the tree, Okay, and this is after she met
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: up with Jess at the James Dean gas station pump
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and she apologizes to Dean. And I just thought Jared
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: played this beautifully. He was just there was that kind
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of shock and he was still pissed and he was
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: still hurt. But you could see he was kind of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: like at at a certain stage in his grief where
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: he was like now it's.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Like anger, yeah, oh yeah, are you with him now?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Right? Right, He's still the wound is still a little
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: bit fresh, and man, he shuts the wind, no honor
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he does.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: That window is huge too. It's a big window. I
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: would have been crawling in and out of there everything.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: You got a rooftop, you got a tree. Yeah, I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: mean it's perfect. Yeah. What did you guys think of
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: that scene? Emily, what'd you think of that scene?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I liked it. I had questions.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how did they not see her climbing up
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the you know, logistical questions about how is she sitting on.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: There if nobody's hearing them talk? How did he not
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: tell his mom?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: You know, he's very close to his mother, right, but
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it goes to show that he was too.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: He's still too hurt to even share it because he's embarrassed.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: And it's horrible that not only have they broken up,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: but she's immediately sort of moved on and so and
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: it's a small town and everybody knows, and that's embarrassing.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: But I think it kind of did bother me how
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: much she apologizes, because I don't really.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Know if she did anything wrong.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: You know, she's a teenager and it didn't end it
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: ended up not working out, but I think there were
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of things that would have forced them apart
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: had it not been Jess. So I think it's a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: kind thing for her to do. It's always nice to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: apologize when something ends. But I don't know if he if.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I think she said because he's hurt and she really
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: did love him, and it's a nice ending for the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: audience to be like, Okay, you know, we don't hate her.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a tough scene. Yeah, that was a
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: tough scene. That's a heartbreaking, wasn't it. It made me
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it just my heart was breaking more for him.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, yeah.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: You know all all all young guys have been through that,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and it's yeah, it hurts, it hurts. It's deep pain,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: deep deep, it's a deep burn. Anyway, Rory comes home
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and Laura la I asked about the rest of her evening,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and they both go to bed reading about Yale.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I love that fun, real moment. It reminds me of
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I remember which which episode it is.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: It's past this one, but or no, it's before it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: season two when Luke builds the hoopah for her and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: they're both standing underneath it, and it's a nice little
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: homage to the future, and I think this is that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I love those moments that Amy does. I think they're great.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: You think that Rory is moving on too soon after
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: her breakup with Dean. You think it's just too you know, jumping.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: You know, what's the I mean, everybody's got their own timeline.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I think there's also something to be said for being
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: seventeen when a month feels like a year.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, it's if it was a big.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Bustling town and there were a lot of boys running around. Maybe,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but there's like one other cute guy in that town.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: You know, there's not a lot of options.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of options like let let her move
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: on as fast as she wants, I think, And.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I think she had already moved on, like she kind
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: of checked out of the Dean really he did.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Absolutely there, Yes, yes, I agree.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: No offense to the men of Stars Hollow.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Just no, no, no, no, they're just they're glad that
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: they've been mentioned every once in a while, they got
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a line here and there, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: they're not Emily. We really love the fact that you're
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: a true, true fan of the show. Yeah, what does
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the show mean to you?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's such a comfort to me.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: And I was just realizing something the other day. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: was telling this story about Frank Lloyd Wright and his
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: house burning down.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Because he was impolite to the people that worked for him.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: And I couldn't remember why I.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Knew that story, and it was because girls that I
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: had heard it initially, and like, I've been to Falling Water,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you know, Frank Lloyd Wright Junior is all these houses
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: in Pasadena. You know, I am educated architecture, and like,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: It because of this show.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: And there's been so many moments like that in my
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: life where you know, the the cultural references that are
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: made on this show are just so thick and I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: would watch an episode and be like, I actually don't
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: know who that is and I would look something up.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So for me, it was it was easy watching, but
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: also it sort of ticked a part of my brain
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: that because it was shot in you know, I don't
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: know what was you said two thousand and two. When
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: did you guys start two thousand and two? Two thousand Yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: So I mean there's things that A referenced from like
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, a lot of Bush references.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, that's what year it was.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Did you watching the show influence your your career in
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: any way? Were you already kind of on your way
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and your career.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: It made me I was already working at that point,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: but I think watching it, you know, because I watched
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: it and I really twenties, it just made me feel
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: sad that I didn't go away to school, like go
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: away to a big school. And I grew up in
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: LA and I wanted to stay in LA to work,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and so my options for college were not as large.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And I always wanted to go to an East Coast school.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: And I think that was probably because I saw it
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: on TV all the time.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Now, which character on the show did you
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: relate to the most?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Net Well, it changes, okay, because let's see, as.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: A woman in my early thirties, I'd have to say
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: probably Emily.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I think she's a little no nonsense.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I think she's has her opinions and she's often right,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: but she sort of doesn't do them all correctly. But
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I think she's a fascinating character. I really I love
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I love that character. Everyone else in my life would
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: probably say Laura Alive.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But sure, yeah, I don't think anybody had more I
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: don't think an actress had more fun with a part
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: than Oh god, A history of TV in her. Yeah,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and Lauren just had a blast every day getting to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: do those lines. You know. Yeah, Okay, let's go back
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to two thousand. But you're the age you are now, okay, okay, okay.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: You go to a Gilmore audition and you're you have
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a choice to be cast as one of the characters
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: in the show. Who would it be?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, Paris Killer. Absolutely, that is the most righteous character
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: she is. It's just such a very interesting, very well done,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: very angry character, and it's.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: So I love love that character.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, well, okay, with your quite extensive career in television,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that's growing and growing and growing. When you watch a
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: show like gilmour is it with a different eye, because
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you know what takes to write a good TV show.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I think, whether I realize it or not, every time
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I watch a show for some reason, I'm like, well,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: what time did they shoot that? You know, they're playing
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: that for Sunrise, but kind of looks like something, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I kind of take myself out of it a little bit,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and I think, because I've worked at Warner Brothers.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: For the past oh gosh, what.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: The helld am I probably ten years or so, you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: maybe longer that actually my first job was one of
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: my first jobs at Warner Brothers was an episode of Friends.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So I've been at Warner Brothers for a long time
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and working here and going home and then watching Gilmore Girls.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It's like I never leave work a little bit, which
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: probably isn't good for my mental health. But yeah, I
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: mean watching that show, you realize, God, you guys must
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: have just studied your lines forever, forever and ever. It's
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: so many words. And I have a lot of respect
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: for that because the show that I work on, you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: we move really quickly, but it doesn't change all that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: much throughout the week. And your we're your scripts were
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: what one hundred one hundred and something pages.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: You know, they were eighty eighty eighty plus of just
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: like solid.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Solid dialogue.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: It's so much and we're about forty forty to forty
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to forty five, you know, So it's it's half of
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: what you guys have.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: You're doing a multi multi camp.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: It's a multicam.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Oh what a joy.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: It's wonderful. It's wonderful.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I need to rehearse, rehearse.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I know. Did you guys do did you table reads
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: at all? Probably not?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, Oh you did Oh, that's very helpful.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: At least you have that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it's a lot and you're outside
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and then you're inside and you're shooting it sixty different ways,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and it's it's a single cam.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Is a lot of work. So I have a lot
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: of respect for that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: We did a lot of it. Boy, you're in a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: great situation.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Boy, you get to very grateful.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so great. They weren't doing a lot
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: of those. This is they're not doing a lot of
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: those anymore.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: No, And I'm I'm you know, I worked for Chuck
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Lorie Enterprises, so he's kind of he's got his finger
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: on the multiicam pulls for sure.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So if you're going to do one, he'd be the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: guy to do it with you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: He's incredible. This is my fifth show with him, and.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: He's he's amazing and he's keeping me employed.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: It's nice. So grateful, all.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Right, So let's talk about Georgie and Mandy's first marriage.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It's airing its second season right now on CBS. What's
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: your favorite thing about filming and being part of this cast.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I love this cast so much.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: You know a lot of these characters came over from
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Young Sheldon, which this is you know, uh, sort of
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: in the same timeline as Young Sheldon. So we have
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: a closeness that I don't know if we would have
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: had if we just started fresh on the pilot with
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: nobody knowing each other. I'd known Montana Jordan, who plays Georgie,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: my husband. I've known Montana for I think we did
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the Math like five years now, and two of those
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: have been here. And it's easy. It's easy when you
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: like each other. It's easy when the hours are nice,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and it's easy when it's really well written and you
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: can remember it better when it's well written. I've always
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: found if you can't remember a line, it's probably not
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: written very well. And it's just such a joy. Everybody
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: gets along so well. Everybody brings their little dogs to work,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: and we're just it really is a family.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: And it's not just the cast.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I mean this crew came over from Young Sheldon as well,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and we all know each other really well. And we
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: get to do a live audience every Tuesday night.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Are you film on Tuesday nights?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: We've film on Tuesday nights, which I've only ever done
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Friday night shows for live for MULTIICAM and At first,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, I'm gonna forget it over
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the weekend. And then I realized, oh, if you're a
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Tuesday night show, you're out of work at two pm
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: on Friday, you can like actually have a weekend, which.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I've never ever had before. So I'm like, I'm taking trips,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I'm going out. It's like, it's incredible. I've never been
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: able to do that when.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I because you're filming Friday night, you're not out there.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You're out there one am or something like that.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Actually you'll be Our shows are only about an hour
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: and a half.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: What yeah, yeah, actually last night last night we got
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: out at eight eleven six.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, we're it's it's short, We're quick.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: How are you doing it that?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: We're really good? It's wow, We're like seamless. It's it's
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: such a well oiled machine.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And that's not just us, you know, that's our that's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: our crew on stage, that's everybody.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: We just they move so quick.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: We got an Emmy winning camera crew working here from
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Big Bankery.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: It's like it's amazing.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And so the audience, you're always getting those initial reactions
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that are makeing the final cut, right, yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Making the final cut, and then also helping you decide,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: you know, a joke you've done a thousand times during rehearsal,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: some guy in the back laughs in a place you're
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: not used to, and it completely changes the way you
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: deliver it.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: And it's it's you know, it's theater. It's awesome.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good. I love that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I have a question speaking about Young Sheldon. So, Lance
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Barber was in two episodes of Gilbert Hibbles. So have
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: you ever like talked about that with him or Yeah?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I actually I've talked more about his time on It's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Always Sunny because I think his character, It's Always Sonny,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: is such a riot.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: But yeah, he was because he plays ror. He plays
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: the reporter that works for.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: It's like an online yeah, which was really new back then,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the website that he wants her to write for or something.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: And he was also in the season one episode too
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: is a Random Guy?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Was he really? Yeah?
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: He in the fashion show episode. He's the guy fixing
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: the stage.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: No way, So they just brought him back as they
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: liked him and gave him or that that character is
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: not the same character different.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: It was like six years apart, So I yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe a different guy.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I've heard some stories about how the Kirk
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: character became Kirk and.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: That's just the wildest story. And television that somebody that
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: comes in for one thing is the series regular after
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: the first season. Ye amazing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: All right, well, Eily, we got to wrap this up.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Please come back. We have a lot more to unpacked
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: with you and everybody. And what night is Georgie and Mandy.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: On Thursday nights eight o'clock on CBS.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Check it out. The one and only Emily Osman. You
• 33:46
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• 33:48
  Speaker 1: your time and remember, best fans on the planet, keep
• 33:51
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• 33:55
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• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I will be there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Emily should stop by too, I should stop by.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: You got to stop by. I have a seventeen day
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: residency going there from December eighteenth to January fourth. Be
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: closed Christmas Day, however, but every other day I'm going
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: to be there. Come on by, Emily, let us know
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: when you want to come by and wool vip the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: heck at you and and all the best and remember
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: where you lead, we will follow.
• 34:31
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• 35:06
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