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Proto celtic musings in the penultimate pod of the season · Mooney's Mythic Podcast

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Moony's Mythic Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome all of you.
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  Welcome whether you're listening at home and you've used your
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  imagination to create
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  SPEAKER_01: a chalk circle around you so that nothing can disturb you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to you if you're doing the washing up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome if you're driving.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome if you've created a
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  cosy nest or you're sitting by the fire welcome if you're on
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  the earth welcome
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  welcome to all of you and I really mean that I really really
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  mean that even to
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  those places that are curled up and shying away the places that
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  tightened as soon
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  as I spoke that it's all welcome here it's the only way we're
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  ever going to find
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  SPEAKER_01: our way home
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  is if we keep on welcoming ourselves here in this moment and to
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  this moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you hear that?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's my fire.
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  SPEAKER_01: Giving good crackle, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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  I don't think you can get a fire app that would record as
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  gorgeously as my fire is sounding.
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  this evening and I think it's really showing off because it's
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  it knows it knows
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  that the sun's out and that the that the indoor cosy fire
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  evenings may draw to a
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  close and it also knows that this is the penultimate podcast
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  for this season so I'm
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  going to do one more next week or thereabouts and then I'm
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  going to end season one
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  SPEAKER_01: and come back with season two
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  SPEAKER_01: I hope that's OK for everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: It feels right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I know,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: we if you're new to this podcast,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'd so recommend you going back to another podcast,
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  SPEAKER_01: even the one last week,
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  SPEAKER_01: Persephone podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: You'll get more of an in-depth storytelling experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've just got some bits and bobs to say here today,
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  SPEAKER_01: so maybe only the really hardcore listeners will listen.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's it, it's just us now.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just us.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just love that you're here.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that you're here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where was I?
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  Yeah so last week Persephone and then so I bought Matilda
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  Leisha's book No Season
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  SPEAKER_01: But The Summer which is about the Persephone journey and she comes out.
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  I've only read the first chapter but she comes out of the
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  underworld like with dirt
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  SPEAKER_01: in her mouth and
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  soil under her fingernails and I know that that's where some of
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  us are right now in
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  this season spring it's spring it's spring and there are places
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  that are waking up
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  and opening and there are places that still have dirt in their
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  mouth from their
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  journey of the winter underworld and I want to say I know that
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  you're going to be
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  SPEAKER_01: all right you're going to be all right
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  SPEAKER_01: because you've made it this far and the rest of it is just,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: brushing it off and staying connected.
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  And that's what I've been thinking about this week is about
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  connecting to the earth
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  SPEAKER_01: and staying connected with the earth and ways of honouring the earth.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was talking to my friend Felix Padel
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  He's written this book called Sacrificing People and in the
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  beginning of the book
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  it talks about human sacrifice and he talks about tribes that
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  did practice human sacrifice.
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  SPEAKER_01: At least they honoured human lives as important above all else.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was the highest sacrifice and he suggested that
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  SPEAKER_01: we don't,
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  that lives are not valued so highly and I just wanted to
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  acknowledge that because
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  I've been thinking about that and I've been thinking about that
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  within the context
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  SPEAKER_01: of story and how,
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  SPEAKER_01: can you hear that?
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  SPEAKER_01: That was a roar.
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  I've been thinking about that because lots of stories are about
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  bargains with the devils,
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  SPEAKER_01: they're about people being sacrificed,
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  SPEAKER_01: Scheherazade and Arabian Nights,
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  SPEAKER_01: Rapunzel,
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  SPEAKER_01: Rumpelstiltskin,
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  SPEAKER_01: Hansel and Gretel,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: cannibalism,
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  SPEAKER_01: human sacrifice,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's all woven within story.
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  SPEAKER_01: But that's not what I was going to talk about.
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  What I was going to talk about was that Felix lives in Wales
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  and he's not from
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  Wales and he said that he learnt Welsh because he believed that
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  that was the
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  SPEAKER_01: language that the earth spoke there.
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  SPEAKER_01: He learnt Welsh because that was the language that the earth spoke.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that excites me so much to
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  SPEAKER_01: to be able to communicate with the land.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I've been going out on the land and just making sound,
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  SPEAKER_01: starting with the awen,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is the three syllables.
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  and it's the sound of inspiration in the druidic order in the
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  bardic order the
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  arwen that inspiration comes from sound that creativity comes
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  from sound that
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  SPEAKER_01: bringing things forth come from sound.
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  That makes me think about prayer,
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  about intention,
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  about all those things.
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  So I've been learning a little bit of Gaelic,
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  looking at a little bit of Irish.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've been looking at the gorgeous proto-Celtic
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  SPEAKER_01: dictionary that Carolyn Hillier wrote.
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  And I looked up,
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  I was like,
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  because Felix said to me,
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  what's proto-Celtic?
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  And I know that he's a linguist and I know that he studied
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  classics at Oxford.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, he's asking me what that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I've looked into that and it's a hypothetical language.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a hypothetical language that was supposed,
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm quoting from Wikipedia here,
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  SPEAKER_01: that was supposed to have been spoken in about 600 BC,
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  SPEAKER_01: about then.
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  SPEAKER_01: And...
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  SPEAKER_01: I've been saying these words from this dictionary out loud.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel close to the land when I speak them.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, here we go, straight away.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just opened it at random.
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  SPEAKER_01: Strenganyl.
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  SPEAKER_01: Umbilical cord.
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  SPEAKER_01: Strenganyl.
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  SPEAKER_01: Munna.
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  SPEAKER_01: Urine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Used to tan hides for leather.
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  SPEAKER_01: God.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've got my salmon skin in urine somewhere in the house.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to tell you where.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's got another few days to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like I want to work orally.
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  with this language i don't want to just read it it's great to
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  be able to have a
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  podcast and be able to read a few words out but um i've got a
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  group together and
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  we're going to meet regularly and we're going to create songs
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  and poems and pieces
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  of art stories we're going to we're going to work with these
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  stories and these
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  SPEAKER_01: words in an oral way so i'm really excited about that
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  And so I have been in Wales and I've been with my friend and
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  she's dying.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you hear that?
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  SPEAKER_01: She's dying and she gave me this large bean pod.
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  I'm just moving it very,
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  very slightly,
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  but I'm going to shake it properly in a minute.
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  SPEAKER_01: She gave me this large bean pod and it feels amazing to...
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  SPEAKER_01: have something from the land that makes sound as I explore these things.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm just going to shake it for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Makes me want to rap.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just looking at these words again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bundo.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bundo is the earth beneath the feet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Noko.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hill.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kuo.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hollow.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bundo.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bundo.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bundo.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bundo.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bundo.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bundo.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bundo.
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  SPEAKER_02: I could go on and on and on and on, but I think I'll leave it there.
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  When I say other side,
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  I mean,
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  you know,
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  the podcast,
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  I don't mean the other side.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because there's that joke, why did the chicken cross the road?
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  SPEAKER_01: To get to the other side.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just got that joke last year.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, that the chicken is going to the other side, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling vulnerable, can you tell?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling vulnerable.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling, yeah, like I want to be with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I want to unpack my mythic thoughts with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: But they haven't quite found their way home yet.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't feel like I've quite defragged my thoughts enough.
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  SPEAKER_01: Distilled them enough to do a podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: And last night I went to see Sally Pom Clayton.
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  SPEAKER_01: Go and see her show if you can.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just gorgeous.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a woman.
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  SPEAKER_01: I saw Sally Pom Clayton.
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  so long ago when I was a secret storyteller I was telling
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  stories but I wasn't
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  telling people I was a storyteller and my friend dragged me
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  along and we saw her
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  tell stories from Arabian Nights and she was wonderful and then
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  watching her last
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  night just seeing a woman at the absolute top of her game
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  telling stories and
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  the craft and the the way that she wove and the and the
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  confidence and the ease and
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  the magic the magic was extraordinary and I'm so grateful to
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  have seen it and also
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  um it's made me feel like that's what I want to do which I've
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  never done really is
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  SPEAKER_01: is taken
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  SPEAKER_01: a kind of set of stories and really, really polished them up.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've always been telling new stories and different stories.
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  And,
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  you know,
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  this pod's weekly,
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  so it's like it comes around and around and around and around.
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  And that's one of the things I'm going to do in between season
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  one and season two
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  SPEAKER_01: is really craft stories like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the magic of doing a podcast is that I just paused it,
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  SPEAKER_01: got up,
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  SPEAKER_01: went to get something from behind the chair,
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  SPEAKER_01: and now pressed record again.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the magic of a podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I went to get this.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's an ocarina made out of a horse's thigh bone.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think I've played it before.
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  Willow Freeman Toddington,
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  an artist who creates instruments on Dartmoor,
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  made it for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's something that I
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  play when I want to summon something in spirit sometimes I play
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  it to the four
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  directions when I say play actually it does have a little
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  whistle on one of the
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  notes and I'm not I'm no musician but sometimes I just like to
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  sound it to the
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  elements like kind of like a horn you know to announce my
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  arrival or a conch like
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  SPEAKER_01: like I'm here like a whistle I'm here
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  SPEAKER_01: And I say that now to the beings of this fire,
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  SPEAKER_01: to the beings of the earth,
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  SPEAKER_01: to the beings of water,
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  SPEAKER_01: to the beings of air.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm here.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're here.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're here like a whistling kettle.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've got that out to play because...
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  I have just bought another instrument a wind wand from Willow
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  it should be coming
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  in the post can't wait to play it to you because I'm working on
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  this story of
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  Tatterhood for the retreat at the weekend oh it's just such an
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  amazing story
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  SPEAKER_01: And she comes out,
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  SPEAKER_01: when she's born Tatterhood within the story,
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  SPEAKER_01: she comes out on a goat,
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  SPEAKER_01: riding,
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  SPEAKER_01: galloping out on a goat with a wooden spoon in her hand.
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  And she just really wanted some kind of sound when she enters
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  in the story.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was really feeling that when I was watching Sally Pom Clayton,
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  SPEAKER_01: who works amazingly with all different kinds of instruments and sounds.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow, totally brilliant.
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  um yeah so i've ordered one of those from him this morning and
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  and i'm feeling the
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  story really happy with that and that's occupying a lot of my
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  time right now the
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  retreat is full so um come next year or come to the one in
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  wales if you were
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  feeling like doing it and didn't quite jump on and the um
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  initiation it feels has
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  SPEAKER_01: already started
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  I feel in a very deep listening space with the women that have
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  chosen to be
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  initiated in this way and with the story and with the land and
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  with the time that
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  SPEAKER_01: we are in.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's what I'm kind of dreaming with, dreaming how to best serve
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  the story and listening it's like yeah just really listening to
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  the messages that
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  are coming to me to kind of guide me in the weekend does any of
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  that make any sense
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  SPEAKER_00: Feeling vulnerable.
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  SPEAKER_00: Feeling vulnerable today.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so when I got back from Wales, I went to Long Sutton Village Hall.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know, Long Sutton Village Hall.
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  There has been a Women's Institute meeting for a hundred years
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  at Long Sutton.
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  village hall and in the oldest photographs of the long saturn
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  wi there's men in
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  them and there's men in them because the men would um escort
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  the women to the wi
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  i'm not sure that they were allowed to come by themselves and
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  they certainly
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  wouldn't have had modes of transport most of them or or able to
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  go to or fro easily
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  SPEAKER_01: without the support permission or um
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  car or vehicle of their husbands and I went to Long Sutton WI
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  because the Lost Lady
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  Society they are a they're a group in Somerset a group of women
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  who put on creative
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  things who do creative things they're a collective and one of
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  the things they do is
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  SPEAKER_01: have a podcast and
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  SPEAKER_01: And Long Sutton,
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  SPEAKER_01: WI,
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  SPEAKER_01: when the women got together and talked about what they would like to do,
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  SPEAKER_01: what they would like to teach each other,
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  SPEAKER_01: what they would like to know,
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  SPEAKER_01: they decided they'd like to know more about podcasts.
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  So they invited the Lost Lady Society to come and do a live
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  podcast in their WI.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Sarah Setter, who is the queen of the collective,
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  think I'm right in saying that um invited me along which was
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  really really exciting
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  for me to see how other people do it you know um so that was
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  really exciting and
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  they basically take a subject or a question the lost lady
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  society they're a bit
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  like a kind of a round table um where they take a question and
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  they discuss it and
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  they talk about it and then us as an audience um or we're all
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  circled around
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  SPEAKER_01: listening it's really fascinating and I was
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  grateful to be involved and I think it's emboldened me to do
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  some live podcasts I
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  think I'm going to do that in season two have an audience
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  invited so that you can
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  come and listen to a podcast live I will keep you posted about
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  those possibilities
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  and opportunities I'd love to have you along and I maybe may
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  tour about a little
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  SPEAKER_01: bit
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  So if there's somewhere that you would like to invite me,
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  then I'm well up for coming.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm learning this story, Tatterhood.
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  I have told it once with Charlotte Mabble,
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  but I'm going back to the bones of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: so that I can use it as a portal to create this retreat at the weekend.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I've been doing that very much in the dreaming.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know how we're going to work through it as an initiatory experience.
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  I know when I'm going to tell different parts of the story and
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  how I'm going to
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  SPEAKER_01: unpack those different parts of the story for ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: But when I saw Sally Pom Clayton,
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  last night I thought oh I haven't actually paid any attention
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  to the performance of
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  the story to the telling of the performance of the story and
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  that's what I'm going
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  to be working on for the next couple of days so I just wanted
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  to chat a bit about it.
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  I first came across this story in the second Virago book of
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  fairy tales which is
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  SPEAKER_01: edited by Angela Carter the brilliant wonderful glorious Angela Carter.
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  SPEAKER_01: I read somewhere that on her deathbed
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  SPEAKER_01: This was published after her death.
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  She was too ill to write the introduction when this was being
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  put together.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I read somewhere that she said it's one for the girls.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm so grateful,
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  SPEAKER_01: Angela,
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  SPEAKER_01: wherever you are,
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  SPEAKER_01: up or down,
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  I'm so grateful for you bringing these stories together in the
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  way that you have
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  SPEAKER_01: done for us.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's brilliant.
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  SPEAKER_01: The way that they're...
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  SPEAKER_01: The way that they're grouped goes like this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Strong minds and low cunning, that's the first group.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the second group, up to something, black arts and dirty tricks.
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  SPEAKER_01: The third group, beautiful people.
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  SPEAKER_01: the fourth group,
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  SPEAKER_01: mothers and daughters,
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  SPEAKER_01: the fifth,
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  SPEAKER_01: married women,
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  SPEAKER_01: and the sixth,
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  SPEAKER_01: useful stories.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just brilliant.
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  It's like kind of stumbling upon some old recipe book,
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  you know,
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  that's got notes in the margin.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how it feels.
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  SPEAKER_01: It feels very much notes in the margin.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so Angela Carter was too ill to write the introduction,
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  SPEAKER_01: and the woman who wrote the introduction...
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  SPEAKER_01: should have her name,
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  SPEAKER_01: Marina Warner,
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  she said that there were four bits of notes that were left on
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  Angela's desk.
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  And the first one was,
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  every real story contains something useful,
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  says Walter Benjamin.
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  And the second,
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  the unperplexedness of the story,
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  unperplexedness in italics.
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  SPEAKER_01: The third one,
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  No one dies so poor that he does not leave something behind,
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  said Pascal.
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  SPEAKER_01: No one dies so poor that he does not leave something behind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fairy tales, this is the fourth one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fairy tales, dash, cunning and high spirits.
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  So they're the four things that she was thinking about as she
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  was writing the
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  SPEAKER_01: introduction to this book.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was most touched by
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  SPEAKER_01: No one dies so poor that they don't leave anything behind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because in this context, what she's talking about is story.
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  SPEAKER_01: That they leave behind some legacy of story.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I remember in funerals,
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: people come and they tell their stories,
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  SPEAKER_01: their memories about the people that have,
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  SPEAKER_01: the person that's died,
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  SPEAKER_01: the people that have died.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's somewhere I'm going with the Tatterhood story,
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  SPEAKER_01: with the retreat,
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  is creating our living legacy to walk on this earth with
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  awareness of what we're
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  SPEAKER_01: leaving behind.
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  SPEAKER_01: of the mark that we're making, of the footprint that we are.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's not something I've ever really thought about.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm very much a kind of in the moment kind of a person.
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  And I feel like it's all part of the honing of my craft,
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  of my life,
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  of myself as a storyteller.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's all part of the honing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that feels good,
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  SPEAKER_01: feels good to be,
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  SPEAKER_01: I've kind of found something to work on within the language,
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  SPEAKER_01: the looking at Proto-Celtic and Gaelic,
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  SPEAKER_01: Irish and Welsh,
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  SPEAKER_01: sounding out these words in order to try and find the resonance,
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  SPEAKER_01: the connection to the earth that I want to have when I'm telling stories.
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  And the awareness of legacy,
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  because that's how storytelling really started for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was telling a story in a school and the children just looked,
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  SPEAKER_01: they were listening so deeply,
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  SPEAKER_01: their eyes wide open.
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  their their heads just kind of like sucking in so thirsty for
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  the story so thirsty
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  for the information so thirsty for the learning of how to how
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  to live and how to be
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  in this world and that was that was a real surprise to me i
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  hadn't seen it so
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  clearly before and i felt ashamed in front of them for the
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  person i was and the um
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  SPEAKER_01: The content that I held,
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  SPEAKER_01: the unmet places,
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  SPEAKER_01: the unlooked after places,
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  SPEAKER_01: the suppressed places,
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  SPEAKER_01: the unprocessed places,
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  SPEAKER_01: and that was a big journey for me around beginning to...
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  to kind of clear myself out so that I could let these stories
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  come in and flow out
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  of me so pure and so nourishing for the children and exciting
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  and wonderful and
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  wild and all those things but really are whole and in that way
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  I'm kind of warts
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  SPEAKER_01: and all wholeness
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'll tell you the story of Tatterhood next week.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to tell it now.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to deepen into it and polish it up and spend the retreat with it.
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  And then before I put it to bed,
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  I'll record it and tell it to all of you.
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  SPEAKER_01: But for now, bless your lives.
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  I have got,
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  on the last pod,
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  I did go through all the gigs I'm doing over the summer.
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  SPEAKER_01: But you don't need to know that.
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  SPEAKER_01: You just need to be right here, right now, for this moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because there's magic here.
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  Beyond the words,
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  woven in this podcast,
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  there's been a presence of deep magic.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, just inhale it because it must be for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: It must be for all of you.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you want to support me on Patreon, then you can.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's Mooney's Mythic Podcast.
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  and um if you if you want to share this pod or um write a
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  comment or i mean i don't
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  really know i don't know what the you know i'm just being kind
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  of told that these
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  are the things i should be saying and asking but i just want to
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  know that you're
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  SPEAKER_01: listening here in this moment is um a real balm to me and um
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's a real support for me as a storyteller.
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  And I really feel that that's an important job on this earth at
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  the moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: So thanks for helping me to do it to the very best of my ability.
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  SPEAKER_01: Lots of love.