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Dodgers updates: Rōki’s recovery, Mookie RF debate, Ohtani 1000 · Foul Territory

0:04
Speaker 1: Shoe.
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Speaker 2: Otani had a day yesterday. He was dealing, He struck
0:08
Speaker 2: out the side in the fourth inning, he punched out eight.
0:11
Speaker 2: He hit a danger who was his one thousandth career hit,
0:15
Speaker 2: and it went to center fields Otani style. Now, his
0:18
Speaker 2: team lost the game five to three, So we'll get
0:20
Speaker 2: into that as well, but we are again witnessing something
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Speaker 2: that no one else has done really ever in our sport.
0:26
Speaker 2: You can go back to Babe Ruth. It was a
0:28
Speaker 2: little bit of a different style and a different game
0:30
Speaker 2: back then. Show Otani is one of a kind. Jack
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Speaker 2: hairis La times. That's the pleasure of watching Otani often
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Speaker 2: in person. Jack Ray to have you back on the show.
0:37
Speaker 2: So how did Otani look? Because I will also mention
0:41
Speaker 2: that there was some concern from fans about the cramping
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Speaker 2: that he had, and I think those concerns are dwindling.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he can still pitch a little bit.
0:50
Speaker 3: He can still swing the bat pretty hard. I mean,
0:53
Speaker 3: you know, and even in that game in Cincinnati, like
0:55
Speaker 3: he was pitching okay until the fourth inning. It was
0:58
Speaker 3: really like the first time all year he's kind to
1:00
Speaker 3: look human in a way of just like not being
1:03
Speaker 3: able on one day to physically, you know, get through
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Speaker 3: a full two way outing. So to see him come
1:07
Speaker 3: back yesterday and look as dominant as he did on
1:11
Speaker 3: the mound, continue to look as sharp as he has
1:13
Speaker 3: coming off a second Tommy John, which I think is
1:15
Speaker 3: kind of the underrated part of all this is just
1:18
Speaker 3: how seamlessly he's come back as a pitcher this year,
1:20
Speaker 3: and then to have another good day at the plate.
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Speaker 3: He had been struggling a little bit. He'd only been
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Speaker 3: hitting you know, like two thirty since he started pitching
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Speaker 3: again back in June. But the last week you've seen
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Speaker 3: him get on base a little bit more, You've seen
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Speaker 3: him come up with some really big hits, and then
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Speaker 3: you know, obviously the home run he had yesterday put
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Speaker 3: him in a position to win the game. It was
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Speaker 3: his thousandth career hit. So for all the little other
1:43
Speaker 3: things that the Dodgers are still working through right now,
1:46
Speaker 3: to have that guy playing as well as he is
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Speaker 3: again probably is the biggest reason for hope that they
1:52
Speaker 3: have going into these final two months here, that they
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Speaker 3: can play up to their ceiling in a way that
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Speaker 3: they haven't really done for an extended stretch this season.
2:00
Speaker 1: Hey Jacks, as a fan, now that I'm on the
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Speaker 1: side of a fan and now media as well, and
2:05
Speaker 1: we talk about things like voter for teg, voter fatigue,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not even talking about the MVP race. Do
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Speaker 1: the Doddie fans still appreciate how special it is to
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Speaker 1: watch Shoe Halo tiny on the daily basis now that
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Speaker 1: he's back on the mount as well. I know last
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Speaker 1: year he was incredible as a DH, but to see
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Speaker 1: what he's doing on both sides, I think sometimes as fans,
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Speaker 1: you know, we take for granted how special this is.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it hadn't happened over you know, centuries, you know,
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Speaker 1: since Babe Ruth. How special you know, is it to
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Speaker 1: watch him? Do they still appreciate how good he really is?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I think especially just because they're getting to watch him
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Speaker 3: pitch for the first time since he didn't do it
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Speaker 3: last year, and to see him, you know, like watching
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Speaker 3: him pitch is such a it's just a visually kind
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Speaker 3: of different experience. He throws the ball so hard. He's
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Speaker 3: such an imposing presence up on the mound. He has
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a different demeanor, you know, when
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Speaker 3: he's hitting, he's he kind of playful, you know, waving
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Speaker 3: around it guys, and when he's pitching, he just Dave
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Speaker 3: Roberts talked about this, you know, just has a little
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Speaker 3: bit more of an edge out there, like, okay, this
3:04
Speaker 3: is this is the thing that you know, going all
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Speaker 3: the way back to when he was coming up like
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Speaker 3: that's he always kind of looked at himself as a
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Speaker 3: pitcher first. So I think that's been a cool thing
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Speaker 3: for fans to get to experience. Obviously in a game
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Speaker 3: like yesterday where he strikes out eight guys and then
3:17
Speaker 3: goes to the plate and hits a home run. You know,
3:19
Speaker 3: for all he did last year, that kind of experience
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Speaker 3: is a different thing. And I think again has been
3:25
Speaker 3: one of the cooler parts about this season for the
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Speaker 3: Dodgers is because when he signed last year, there was
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Speaker 3: some uncertainty about, Okay, how you know, how long is
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Speaker 3: it going to take him to go back to being
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Speaker 3: a two way player? Is he going to be as
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Speaker 3: good as a pitcher once he does try to return
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Speaker 3: to it, Can he be you know, as good at
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Speaker 3: this incredibly difficult role as he was with the Angels,
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Speaker 3: And so far he has been. And I think it's
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Speaker 3: been one of the things that Dodger fans have appreciated
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Speaker 3: most about the season.
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Speaker 4: Can't be you up, Yeah, I mean we're gonna just
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Speaker 4: talk about a talent hit right here, and during break
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Speaker 4: I was able to get my baseball, my one thousand
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Speaker 4: hit off my show. This is one of my pride
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Speaker 4: and joys. But it took me almost ten years to
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Speaker 4: get it. So there's not really a question here. I
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Speaker 4: just want to say it makes me sick how good
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Speaker 4: he is, how quickly he is able to get it.
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Speaker 4: But my question to you is just being around the team,
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Speaker 4: watching the team. I know it's a real thing. I've
4:18
Speaker 4: been a part of some good teams that have been
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Speaker 4: to the playoffs every year and really they're playing to
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Speaker 4: win a World Series. Do you think there's an element
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Speaker 4: of just a little bit of complacency in the regular
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Speaker 4: season right now, just you know, kind of count down
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Speaker 4: the days waiting to get to the regular season. Obviously
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Speaker 4: they've had some health issues too, but you know, when
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Speaker 4: you're a team that goes to the playoffs every year,
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to make breaking news here,
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Speaker 4: but the regular season to a lot of those guys
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Speaker 4: is a little bit boring, you know, it's kind of
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Speaker 4: all practice games until they get to the real season.
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Speaker 4: Do you get a sense of that at all.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's always been something the Dodgers, as
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Speaker 3: you know, Kevin like, would have to battle over the
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Speaker 3: last decade. Now with the run of success that they've had,
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Speaker 3: I think especially this year, I mean you look back
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Speaker 3: at the last eighteen months for this team. They've had
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Speaker 3: two international trips to Korea and Japan. They have had
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Speaker 3: the circus of the media, circus of having Shoheo Tani around,
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Speaker 3: and all that's gone into that. They have last year's
5:14
Speaker 3: you know, World Series run, they have this offseason where
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Speaker 3: they spend a bunch of money and there's all this
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Speaker 3: talk about are they bad for the sport or whatnot?
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think what you might be seeing now
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Speaker 3: is a team that has all of that baggage in
5:27
Speaker 3: the background, coupled with Max Munsey was hurt and some
5:31
Speaker 3: of their best hitters were struggling, and you're at that
5:33
Speaker 3: part of the season where, especially when you're in kind
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Speaker 3: of an extended slump as a lineup, it's hard to
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Speaker 3: generate a lot of energy if guys aren't hitting and
5:42
Speaker 3: you have, you know, key guys that are out injured,
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Speaker 3: and you're kind of trying to grind through the year.
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Speaker 3: I think to that end, you know, the impressive part
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Speaker 3: about what the Dodgers have done so far is keep
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Speaker 3: themselves in first place, is to overcome some of the
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Speaker 3: injuries and underperformances and just the general grind of the
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Speaker 3: season and still be in a pretty good spot going
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Speaker 3: into the last two months. But now they're getting to
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Speaker 3: the point where they do need to flip the switch
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Speaker 3: a little bit, especially as the Padres keep nipping at
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Speaker 3: their heels, especially as the rest of the NL continues
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Speaker 3: to play well. I mean, the Dodgers want to win
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Speaker 3: the division. They want to have a top two seed,
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Speaker 3: and if they're gonna do that, they're gonna have to
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Speaker 3: be a lot better over these last two months and
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Speaker 3: kind of find that higher gear again like they did,
6:20
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Speaker 1: You talk about flipping the switch, jack, Is there any
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Speaker 1: chance when we flip that switch and the lights come on,
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Speaker 1: well we see Mookie Betts and right field. Because I
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Speaker 1: truly believe you know, Dave Roberts has done this for
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Speaker 1: a long time. He is one of my mentors in
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Speaker 1: San Diego. But I spoke about this the other day
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Speaker 1: and started somewhat of a debate. I truly believe if
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Speaker 1: you want to take some pressure, some mental pressure off
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Speaker 1: of Mookie bekscause I think it's between the ears. I
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Speaker 1: know physically he went through some things early in the season,
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Speaker 1: but I just really believe, you know, having going through
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Speaker 1: going gone through a position change, moving him back to
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Speaker 1: right field will really free up some mental and allow
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Speaker 1: him to just do something that he's really accustomed to
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Speaker 1: in the big leagues and go out and just focus
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Speaker 1: on hitting. Like, what are the chances that you know,
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Speaker 1: when that switch comes back on, we see MOOKI and
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Speaker 1: right and not to mention it might make the defense
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Speaker 1: better when you put Tao in left. It kind of
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Speaker 1: lines everything up in the way that I think defensively,
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Speaker 1: you know, bodes well for the Dodgers. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean this has been the big unanswerable question with
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Speaker 3: Mookie Betts's season and kind of what it means for
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Speaker 3: the team. He's been pretty adamant that playing shortstop is
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Speaker 3: not the reason why he has struggled. He points to
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Speaker 3: the fact that last year he hit really well over
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Speaker 3: the first half of the season while initially making that switch.
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Speaker 3: You know, the fact that that at the start of
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Speaker 3: this season. He got off to a good start his
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Speaker 3: first couple of weeks while trying to you know, reacclimate
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Speaker 3: at the shortstop position at the same time. You know,
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Speaker 3: the longer this slump has gone on, the harder it
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Speaker 3: is to not look at the shortstop things at least
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Speaker 3: being a factor. And maybe it's not the reason he
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Speaker 3: has slumped or did kind of lose his mechanics with
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Speaker 3: the swing, but you know it might be something that
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Speaker 3: certainly is and helping him get out of it. I
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Speaker 3: think the challenge this year compared to last year when
9:04
Speaker 3: they did move him back to right field down the
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Speaker 3: stretch and did have him there when they won the
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Speaker 3: World Series, is that a the roster it doesn't quite
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Speaker 3: line up as well. You know, if you put him
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Speaker 3: back and right, you probably could move to Oscar to
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Speaker 3: the left. You'd have Andy pae Has in center. But
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Speaker 3: they've liked the way Michael Confordo's been swinging the bat.
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Speaker 3: They added another outfielder, and Alex called the trade deadline.
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Speaker 3: They certainly haven't operated as if they're planning to move
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Speaker 3: Mookie Bets back to the outfield at some point. And
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Speaker 3: then Mookie Betts has been a lot better shortstop this
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Speaker 3: year than he was last year, and I think he
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Speaker 3: does take pride in that and in the fact that
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Speaker 3: you know, he's become, you know, an above league average
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Speaker 3: player at you know, one of the most demanding positions defensively.
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Speaker 3: This is, though, is all kind of part of the
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Speaker 3: calculus the Dodgers have to weigh.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Dave Roberts has been adamant, like, you know, I don't
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Speaker 3: see if I just put him in right field one day,
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Speaker 3: he's suddenly going to have three hits and everything's fixed.
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Speaker 3: And I do think that whatever the cumulative toll of
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Speaker 3: playing shortstop has been, you know, at this point, I
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Speaker 3: don't know if moving him to the outfield kind of
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Speaker 3: undoes all that and fixes it. So I'm not expecting
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Speaker 3: him to move. The Dodgers certainly haven't indicated that that's
10:13
Speaker 3: going to be something. They consider it all. They like
10:15
Speaker 3: what he's giving them defensively. They think that there's still
10:19
Speaker 3: going to be some production in his back come the
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Speaker 3: end of the season. You Know, one thing that he
10:23
Speaker 3: did well last year is he didn't finish the season
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Speaker 3: all that great. The last three weeks. He was really
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Speaker 3: bad going into the playoffs, but then he got to
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Speaker 3: October and just kind of wiped the slate clean, focused
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Speaker 3: on putting together more competitive at bats, got out of
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Speaker 3: his head a little bit about all the mechanics, and
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Speaker 3: then had a really nice postseason. That's kind of what
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers are banking on again, and this time doing
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Speaker 3: it probably with him at shortstop.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I want to give my flowers to Will Smith.
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Speaker 4: And I guess my question to you is are we
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Speaker 4: not making a big enough deal of the season he's having.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's on the verge of potentially winning the
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Speaker 4: batting title as a catcher. And I don't know the
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Speaker 4: historical context. I know it hasn't been done in recent history.
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Speaker 4: I don't know how many years. But are we not
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Speaker 4: making a we? It sounds we like we the media.
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Speaker 4: I guess I'm part of the media now because I'm
11:12
Speaker 4: no longer a player. But we should we be making
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Speaker 4: a bigger deal of it?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 3: I mean I made this exact point too well at
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Speaker 3: the All Star Game because I wrote about how his
11:20
Speaker 3: season's gone overlooked, and I said, you know, I think
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Speaker 3: even from us, we've kind of, you know, missed exactly
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Speaker 3: how good you've been this year. Because he has. You know,
11:29
Speaker 3: this is a guy who, especially the last couple of years,
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Speaker 3: was dealing with injuries, did not have very good second
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Speaker 3: halfs to the season, and there were some questions about,
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Speaker 3: you know, was he going to get back to being
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Speaker 3: this top of the line offensive catcher that it looked
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Speaker 3: like he was going to be early in his career.
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Speaker 3: And this year, you know, it's been pretty simple for him,
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Speaker 3: he said, a he's healthy, he's been able to stay
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Speaker 3: fresh that you know, he's he's kind of teetering right
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Speaker 3: on that line of having enough qualified or enough plate
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Speaker 3: appearances to be a qualified hitter, because they have been
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Speaker 3: managing his workload a little bit more and he's just
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Speaker 3: found something with a swing that he said has has
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Speaker 3: been repeatable, you know, for for basically the entire season.
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Speaker 3: You know, this is a guy who's always had kind
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Speaker 3: of a simple, compact, repeatable motion. He struggled getting to
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Speaker 3: fastballs the last couple of years while he was dealing
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Speaker 3: with some injury stuff. But now that he's healthy again,
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Speaker 3: you know, he can he can cover all parts of
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Speaker 3: the plate so well. He has such a good eye,
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Speaker 3: and you know he might he might not hit thirty
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Speaker 3: home runs. He's not gonna have a cow Rawley kind
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Speaker 3: of season. He's not gonna have a show Heyo Tani
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Speaker 3: kind of season in terms of, you know, some of
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Speaker 3: the top line numbers, but in terms of someone who's
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Speaker 3: been a consistent, productive, top of the line hitter, especially
12:40
Speaker 3: for a lineup that lately has needed that kind of
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Speaker 3: consistent production. There's a few guys I think that have
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Speaker 3: been more valuable to their teams than will Smith, especially
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Speaker 3: when you later on when he's done behind the plate
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Speaker 3: and managing a pitching staff that's used to forty different
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Speaker 3: pitchers this year. So yeah, I think even even within
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers this year, you know, he's gone a little
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Speaker 3: bit overlooked, but he's gonna be someone at the end
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Speaker 3: of the year that yeh'd probably be a surprise if
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Speaker 3: he doesn't win the batting title right now, and it
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Speaker 3: is probably going to be getting some MVP votes too.
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Speaker 1: You talk about getting some guys back pitching right the
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Speaker 1: starting rotation, and I don't know if he's going to
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Speaker 1: be a starting role or a bullpen roll. But where's
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Speaker 1: Roki Sazaki right now? His his you know, journey back
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Speaker 1: to helping the Dodgers, Like you said, trying to win
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Speaker 1: another World Series title.
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Speaker 3: He's in a throwing program. He's supposed to do a
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Speaker 3: three inning live VP at the end of this week,
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Speaker 3: after which he could go out on a rehab assignment,
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Speaker 3: and the hope is that he'll be back as a starter,
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Speaker 3: maybe near the end of this month early in September.
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Speaker 3: In terms of a longer term role, it's going to
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Speaker 3: be open ended. Dave Roberts put it this way, just saying,
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Speaker 3: you know, when we go into October, we're going to
13:48
Speaker 3: take the thirteen best arms we have. If Roki Sasaki
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Speaker 3: is one of them, whether it's to help fill out
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Speaker 3: the rotation or maybe serving a bullpen roll, you know,
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Speaker 3: he'll be part of that group. And if he's not,
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Speaker 3: he won't be And that's gonna be the big question
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Speaker 3: for Roki. You know, assuming he can come back healthy,
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Speaker 3: he can get through a rehab assignment without any more setbacks,
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Speaker 3: it's how does he look. You know, his fastball was
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Speaker 3: only sitting around ninety six at the start of the year.
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Speaker 3: That's a pitch that's supposed to be closer to one
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Speaker 3: hundred and kind of needs to be closer to one
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Speaker 3: hundred because it's just a little bit flatter and easier
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Speaker 3: to hit, and opponents were able to square it up
14:21
Speaker 3: a lot early in the season. You know, can he
14:23
Speaker 3: locate his splitter a little bit better. It's a really
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Speaker 3: good pitch. It's got you know, you even Dodger teammates
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Speaker 3: have lotted you know, just how tough it is to
14:33
Speaker 3: pick up in the box and the kind of movement
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Speaker 3: he gets on it. But if he can't throw it
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Speaker 3: for strikes, it becomes easier to lay off. And then
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Speaker 3: he's tried to add a two seam er two, which
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Speaker 3: I think is something that's just an interesting development for
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Speaker 3: a guy who clearly at this stage of his career
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Speaker 3: is trying to figure out, Okay, how does my stuff
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Speaker 3: play in the big leagues? What do I need to
14:51
Speaker 3: do to get big league hitters out. He struggled with
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Speaker 3: that while being primarily a fastball splitter guy at the
14:56
Speaker 3: start of the season, with a few sliders mixed in.
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Speaker 3: So I think it's a good sign of growth that
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Speaker 3: he's willing to embrace, you know, trying out a two
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Speaker 3: seam or trying something new and seeing if it gives
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Speaker 3: him a little bit more success. When he does come
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Speaker 3: back this year as the Nadyers trying to figure out
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Speaker 3: if he's somebody that they can trust in a postseason environment.
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Speaker 1: Well, somebody I know they can trust. And I continue
15:16
Speaker 1: to say there's no staff for character, but there's also
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Speaker 1: no staff from Moxie, right. How important it is it,
15:22
Speaker 1: you know, and has it been to get Max Munthsy
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Speaker 1: back in that lineup? We saw him hit you know,
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Speaker 1: two homers Tuesday night and in the struggling lineup. How
15:30
Speaker 1: you know, just important is his energy and him being
15:33
Speaker 1: that lineup? You know, how much does it mean to
15:35
Speaker 1: his Dodgers team?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's obviously everything he does with the
15:38
Speaker 3: bat and the ability to work good at bats and
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Speaker 3: supply some power and get on base and make things happen.
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Speaker 3: But you know, Dave Roberts described it as just the
15:47
Speaker 3: presence of having him in the lineup, especially with how
15:50
Speaker 3: well he was hitting before he got hurt, with what
15:52
Speaker 3: he looked like on Tuesday with the two home run game.
15:55
Speaker 3: There's something about, especially for a team that's been struggling,
15:58
Speaker 3: just knowing that they have that that one extra guy
16:01
Speaker 3: in the lineup who can help make something happen, that
16:03
Speaker 3: one extra guy that lengthens things out A little bit
16:05
Speaker 3: who can deliver a big swing, and then when he does,
16:08
Speaker 3: you know, just kind of raise the confidence and the
16:10
Speaker 3: energy around the team. And I think that's what you've
16:11
Speaker 3: seen from Max Munsey maybe more than any other player
16:14
Speaker 3: outside of Shoheo Tani this year, which is when Munsy's
16:17
Speaker 3: hot and he's hitting big home runs and he's getting
16:20
Speaker 3: on base and he's making things happen, the Dodgers have
16:22
Speaker 3: been really good. They were the highest scoring offense in
16:25
Speaker 3: baseball before he got hurt, and then they were the
16:27
Speaker 3: lowest scoring offense in baseball during the twenty five games
16:30
Speaker 3: he missed. That's not all because of him. There are
16:33
Speaker 3: some other factors that went into that, other guys struggling
16:36
Speaker 3: while he was out. But a stat like that really
16:39
Speaker 3: underlines how important he's been, not just with what he's
16:41
Speaker 3: been able to produce, but also just the way his
16:44
Speaker 3: presence in the lineup can change a little bit what
16:46
Speaker 3: the Dodgers are able to do offensively.
16:49
Speaker 2: That sounds like a fun case on his side. When
16:51
Speaker 2: they have another contract discussion, I think he usually signs
16:54
Speaker 2: like the two year extensions, or you could just be like,
16:56
Speaker 2: I'm going to play this clip from Jack harris On
16:58
Speaker 2: found territory on August seven. Then you guys make the
17:02
Speaker 2: offer the way you want to make it, and you know,
17:04
Speaker 2: I want to be here, right.
17:07
Speaker 3: He's picking the wrong year to do this ahead of
17:09
Speaker 3: a team option next year.
17:10
Speaker 2: I'm afraid that's true.
17:13
Speaker 3: It's going to be though.
17:15
Speaker 2: Hey they haven't they been doing that. They tack on
17:18
Speaker 2: an extra year or two.
17:19
Speaker 3: Something like that.
17:21
Speaker 1: Yep, DoD Dodgs are the one team that I feel
17:25
Speaker 1: like I have done some really good faith deals and
17:28
Speaker 1: taking care of guys.
17:30
Speaker 2: Kershaw. Yeah, Yeah, that's true.
17:34
Speaker 4: I think it's funny we're sitting here. I think it's
17:35
Speaker 4: funny we're sitting here talking about the Dodgers as if
17:38
Speaker 4: they're not playing well, where they're not a good team
17:40
Speaker 4: still record, and it's just it's just the expectation they've
17:45
Speaker 4: created for themselves, the Dodger brand. We expect them to
17:48
Speaker 4: never lose.
17:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that is kind of like the
17:52
Speaker 3: story of this year so far, as if for all
17:54
Speaker 3: that's gone wrong, they are still in a good position here.
17:57
Speaker 3: It's just about, you know, can they show that kind
17:59
Speaker 3: of that higher level version of themselves down the stretch
18:03
Speaker 3: that they're going to try to defend a world.
18:04
Speaker 1: So okay, one last one before you go. Man. With
18:06
Speaker 1: that said, what are they hoping the rotation looks like
18:10
Speaker 1: going into October? Like, what do they help Dries and
18:12
Speaker 1: everything involved? What do they say, best case scenario, this
18:16
Speaker 1: is our starting rotation going into the playoffs, That's what
18:18
Speaker 1: I want to know.
18:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, in an ideal world, in some order, it's Yamamotos
18:22
Speaker 3: Snell Glass now, and then whatever you're getting out of Otani,
18:26
Speaker 3: which at this point you know, could be five or
18:28
Speaker 3: six innings at least one time in a playoff series,
18:31
Speaker 3: maybe a couple if you try to put them in
18:32
Speaker 3: a Game one and a Game five or something like that. So,
18:35
Speaker 3: assuming they stay healthy, I think that's the biggest difference
18:38
Speaker 3: about how this team might look the rest of the
18:40
Speaker 3: year compared to how it's been up to this point,
18:42
Speaker 3: is that the starting pitching should be better, should be healthy,
18:45
Speaker 3: should be a lot closer to what they envisioned coming
18:47
Speaker 3: into the year. And if they get that, I think
18:49
Speaker 3: it takes care of a lot of the other problems
18:51
Speaker 3: that they've had. But then again, they've had a lot
18:55
Speaker 3: of years the last few seasons where they expected to
18:58
Speaker 3: have a certain amount of deductive and trustworthy guys in
19:01
Speaker 3: their rotation, and they got to October and didn't. So
19:04
Speaker 3: as long as that group stays healthy and productive, I
19:07
Speaker 3: think they're going to be okay. And I think they're
19:09
Speaker 3: going to look a lot closer to one hundred plus
19:11
Speaker 3: win team we expected to see this year, but that
19:13
Speaker 3: still is a little bit of an if as they
19:15
Speaker 3: try to navigate these last two months.
19:17
Speaker 2: That's true. I think they'll have more firepower in October
19:19
Speaker 2: from their rotation than they did last year, and they
19:21
Speaker 2: did win a World Series last year. Jack, good stuff,
19:24
Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by. Give Jack a follow at by
19:26
Speaker 2: Jack Harris on Twitter. Check them out in the La Times.
19:29
Speaker 2: Thanks Jack, Thank you guys. Line movement, let's see if
19:32
Speaker 2: we can get through two here open to now. Dodgers
19:36
Speaker 2: opened at plus four hundred. Now they're at plus two
19:39
Speaker 2: fifty to win the World Series. Phillies from plus eleven
19:41
Speaker 2: hundred to plus eight hundred, and the Tigers are huge
19:44
Speaker 2: movers right now. They're at plus nine hundred to win
19:46
Speaker 2: the World Series. They started this season or a little
19:50
Speaker 2: before that, right when the line opened at plus four thousand.
19:56
Speaker 2: A nice little jump there, KP. Tiger's in a better
19:58
Speaker 2: spot than what most people thought, including the books.
20:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think they should have been
20:04
Speaker 4: you know, plus four thousand after the type of season
20:07
Speaker 4: they had, but maybe people thought it was a little
20:09
Speaker 4: bit of an unsustainable run they went on at the
20:12
Speaker 4: end of the season. But I mean, if you're a
20:15
Speaker 4: Tigers fan and you're a betting fan and you saw
20:17
Speaker 4: that number early in the year in spring training and
20:20
Speaker 4: you took it, good for you.
20:22
Speaker 2: That's right, got a shot and biggest liability cam for
20:25
Speaker 2: World Series winner with the minute to go here Angels, Giants, Dodgers.
20:28
Speaker 2: Now you have to understand what we're talking about here.
20:31
Speaker 2: This means Betham jam takes the biggest hit. If the
20:35
Speaker 2: Angels in the World Series, Giants, there's some people that
20:37
Speaker 2: threw down and got amazing odds, but their odds are
20:41
Speaker 2: long for a reason. Now with the Dodgers, that's the
20:43
Speaker 2: volume of how many people have thrown down on them
20:45
Speaker 2: to win the World Series. So that explains how this
20:47
Speaker 2: is put together For people that are like, wait, what
20:49
Speaker 2: the Angels the Giants. Yeah, there's people going, hey, I'm
20:52
Speaker 2: gonna get plus five thousand on this right, absolutely right.
20:57
Speaker 1: That's and that for me, those are the smart betters right,
21:00
Speaker 1: because a lot of those two you bet the daughters
21:01
Speaker 1: is like you know, bet bet attle, bet a little
21:05
Speaker 1: to win a little, or bet a lot to win
21:06
Speaker 1: a little. So yeah, you know, of course, why would
21:10
Speaker 1: you not, man, that's how you bet. I'm not a
21:11
Speaker 1: gambling man, you know that. You know, you guys are
21:13
Speaker 1: still teaching me how to gamble, evenough I'm even though
21:15
Speaker 1: I'm up in the money this year.
21:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
21:18
Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, for me, I'm not touching that. There's
21:22
Speaker 2: a there's a really happy medium there where you can
21:24
Speaker 2: find teams like the Phillies, Padres, et cetera. There you go,
21:27
Speaker 2: giants and angels, your bolts if you're going there. But
21:30
Speaker 2: if yeh, lightning strikes, great for you.