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- 0:08[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Bear and Balance.
- 0:09[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Jeff Furcus, other side of the screen, Lester A, Wiltfong, Jr. Lester, the Chicago Bears roll into Seattle and beat down the Seattle Seahawks 34 to 17.
- 0:23[SPEAKER_01]: We called last week a statement when I think this is a
- 0:27[SPEAKER_01]: put everybody on notice when I don't even know what this is, but it was a lot of fun.
- 0:32[SPEAKER_02]: How did you take this one?
- 0:34[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they beat the AFT champs last week, prime time that we're all got to see it.
- 0:39[SPEAKER_02]: They beat the NFC champs this week, prime time, the world got to see it.
- 0:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, that's back to back stuff.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_02]: And look, Ben Johnson said this is in a statement.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're doing a business.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_02]: We're going about our business here.
- 0:51[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I just think this team is,
- 0:55[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, they have super bowl aspirations and it's, it's warranted the Jack Simmons trade and, you know, as Caleb's playing at a ridiculous level Ben Johnson has been Johnson, it's like, why not the bears, right?
- 1:11[SPEAKER_01]: went out the bears indeed and I think that because you'd already tease it a little bit and why don't we just get into the categories and start off with a trench tribute because we need to talk about our trench tribute which is one Mr. Jeffrey Simmons who the bear is acquired from the Tennessee Titans for two first round draft picks.
- 1:29[SPEAKER_01]: They also send a four next year they get a fifth back in 20.
- 1:34[SPEAKER_01]: 28, we had three podcasts that dropped the tape, the trade, made an original podcast that I jumped on with Brian Ornchuk to talk about.
- 1:43[SPEAKER_01]: Bill Zerman, fresh off of his deathbed, recorded a podcast and got that out and then we had Mac and Reed go that Thursday night.
- 1:52[SPEAKER_01]: So we just had a ton of coverage of it right away.
- 1:56[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we were all very excited.
- 1:57[SPEAKER_01]: I was so excited.
- 1:58[SPEAKER_01]: I had to cut it right away.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_01]: I'm rocking Jeffrey Simmons or in sleeves.
- 2:06[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go, like this is the guide.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_01]: This is so exciting.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm talking about his game line.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_01]: He had six total tackles, three solo three says two of them were tackles for loss.
- 2:16[SPEAKER_01]: He had one sack.
- 2:17[SPEAKER_01]: He had one pass defense.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_01]: He had tipball.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_01]: And one stat that I thought was, they've been going around, but it's pretty fun that when Jeffrey Simmons was on the field, the Bears defense allowed three yards per play without Jeffrey Simmons on the field, the Bears allowed 13 yards per play.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_01]: So, no.
- 2:36[SPEAKER_01]: a pretty big difference.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty big difference.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_01]: This guy is just, he's a class act, like first of all, that's everything that we've heard about.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a class act, but four small to plier is a term that you hear a lot, which is basically like he's just going to make everybody better, and I'm just, I'm so excited because
- 2:54[SPEAKER_01]: This is the biggest weakness on the Chicago Bears team and they filled it with literally the best player at that position.
- 3:02[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, he came out and did absolutely everything you'd want him to do.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm still laughing at some of the people that were saying, I'm not sure he'll play or maybe he'll be on a pitch count.
- 3:14[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, they got, he's not coming off the street.
- 3:18[SPEAKER_01]: He's coming from a different team.
- 3:20[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and he's playing a defensive tackle.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_01]: go hunt.
- 3:25[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's essentially what they need to go tell them to do.
- 3:28[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really excited about this.
- 3:30[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're really excited about this.
- 3:33[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of your first full Jeffrey Simmons experience?
- 3:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, is this our first, you know, just transfer, we're going to go talk about one guy.
- 3:41[SPEAKER_02]: I can't over the time we've done this in the past.
- 3:43[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, we've maybe had the same guy.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_01]: But like it was just such an obvious, like, let's spend some time basketball in the, in the orange sleeve glow of Jeffrey Simmons.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think I saw you also had five pressures which led the bears.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_02]: I think that went a bit and then it felt that kind of thing.
- 3:58[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not sure if that was, you know, that charting or if that was the,
- 4:02[SPEAKER_02]: the next gen stuff, but regardless, you know, he was in that backfield, and I mean from the start, I mean, we wrap the bag, he's he's making an impact, you know, he is a guy, we talked a little bit on the, on the pre-show, right?
- 4:16[SPEAKER_02]: We're a lot of bear spans, we didn't really get to see a lot of Jeffrey Simmons, because the Titans games are probably out a lot of, a lot of noon games through the years,
- 4:24[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they've been bad and, you know, the bear has had some some down years too.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it's just not a lot of Jeffersonman stuff for us to watch.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_02]: So,
- 4:34[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but we knew who we were.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we saw the highlights, obviously we knew what an impact Larry was, but you know, this may have been a lot of fans.
- 4:42[SPEAKER_02]: First full game, watching him go, you know, Bell's Bell, and it was like, oh my God, this is the guy.
- 4:49[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you even heard, you know, fucking Ackman joke in that, you know, I think the Ryan Fultre sends some more draft picks over there, because he is just so impactful, you know, what he meant.
- 4:58[SPEAKER_02]: And you said force multiplier.
- 5:00[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone ate.
- 5:01[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the whole defense looked better.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, when he was in there, they did so much better.
- 5:05[SPEAKER_02]: I saw that where the only third down conversion they allowed was one where Simmons was off the field.
- 5:11[SPEAKER_02]: So he just does so much stuff.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for you, he makes everyone better.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_02]: And like you said, he came in with the right attitude.
- 5:18[SPEAKER_02]: He came in with the leadership mentality.
- 5:21[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he came in talking about how, hey, I'm going to draw double teams.
- 5:25[SPEAKER_02]: I expect you, great to share it, you know, veteran.
- 5:28[SPEAKER_02]: I expect you, Mantis swept my former teammate.
- 5:31[SPEAKER_02]: I expect you guys to get yours because I'm going to draw attention.
- 5:34[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, he knows who he is.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_02]: He knows what he brings to the table.
- 5:37[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's a suitable aspirations for the bears.
- 5:42[SPEAKER_01]: And like you, we were talking about this before we started, but the orange sleeves, which were red sleeves and Tennessee, he wears those so that his daughter can pick him out on the line up right away, see that you know really cool stuff also like.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_01]: Great marketing for defense deployment right like you make that you make that you establish that that you're the guy and the red sleeves are you're now the guy and the orange sleeves and you make that kind of impact he's very difficult to miss anyway, but he's a possible to miss with those with those alternate color sleeves that are that are poking out.
- 6:17[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just so cool when you get a star player and that's who he is.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a guy that's just on a different level.
- 6:26[SPEAKER_01]: Moves different looks different.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we talked about the compensation and, you know, 5, 10 years down the road, we can look back, and we can like really do an evaluation.
- 6:36[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, okay, you know, did this make a difference?
- 6:38[SPEAKER_01]: So if it work, whatever, your one game in,
- 6:41[SPEAKER_01]: way too early to make that evaluation, but like one minute in, I was already like, yep, absolutely.
- 6:47[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in on this.
- 6:49[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take the burden the hand, the star player, the guy that's that can absolutely make a complete difference between what you might be able to get out of those players into the future, because this team, I think, a special, I think has a
- 7:08[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb injury with a two-in-one record right like you saw this the 59 points against Carolina and the opener like there there's so many signs that this team's close and I like that to you know they've been in bulk out of good time with it but they they cut the Ryan Polls
- 7:26[SPEAKER_01]: Poles getting a little love, by the way, in the anime here today, which is just fun to see.
- 7:30[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Poles getting some flowers, but they cut to him and he literally picked up a phone out of cell phone, but like a phone, a corded phone, and they're back in the joke that always probably on the line now, making another move.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like the image of
- 7:47[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Tennessee calling him would be like, hey, send us more.
- 7:53[SPEAKER_01]: This was wasn't enough.
- 7:55[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think everything's kind of coming together.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_01]: What buck and acquin were saying about, you know, hey, this really sends a message to your team that, like, we believe in you.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_01]: And it can kind of send a jolt like, hey,
- 8:09[SPEAKER_01]: ownership is willing to make this stake on this team and send us somebody that's going to help us and you can almost take it like defensive line like adding another guy that's a you need this rotation anyway but like somebody lost snaps because of that right like so you there could be a lot of people you know they could take that the wrong way like oh I'm not good enough or whatever but you know it's like this is a star player and it's going to make
- 8:37[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really cool and I mean pick number 99.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_01]: I know that was pretty much the only one available, but like I love the number 99.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's one of the best and this is random, but like it's think it's aesthetically speaking for any team.
- 8:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a top five number aesthetically and he just he's he's it's the biggest number and he's the biggest guy.
- 9:00[SPEAKER_01]: and and I just I love it.
- 9:02[SPEAKER_01]: I love everything about it.
- 9:03[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that they sell some.
- 9:04[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they sell the heck out of his jersey.
- 9:06[SPEAKER_01]: And oh yeah, he's he's going to be like, whoa, what's this little bump with all the jersey sales?
- 9:13[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think bearish fans bearish fans are going to love him.
- 9:15[SPEAKER_01]: They they they already do, but they're just going to continue to grow and everything, every interview, everything about this guy just makes you love me more.
- 9:22[SPEAKER_02]: Sunday night with uh
- 9:25[SPEAKER_02]: Tampa Bay and town, you know, his first announcement, you know, Jeffrey Simmons, the fence of tackle and that when that happens, that crowd's going to go nuts, there's going to be so many 99 languages in the stadium, this was the deal they had to make, right?
- 9:38[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you really think you have,
- 9:41[SPEAKER_02]: championship caliber team.
- 9:42[SPEAKER_02]: You make this deal.
- 9:43[SPEAKER_02]: Look, it's compared a lot to the Cleo Mac trade, right?
- 9:46[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of a lot of the haters.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_02]: That didn't work out for you guys.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_02]: This is the same thing.
- 9:50[SPEAKER_02]: Well, these two teams were in much different places, right?
- 9:54[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that was you're one of Matt Naggi, you're two of Mr. Biscuit.
- 9:58[SPEAKER_02]: It was all like, hey, we hope we're going to be good.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_02]: We think we're good.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_02]: We had a nice preseason.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get Cleo Mac.
- 10:04[SPEAKER_02]: And it helped them.
- 10:05[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, they went to the playoffs that year, but
- 10:07[SPEAKER_02]: And then we realized that, you know, Nagy and Trimiski work the guy, it's different.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb's the guy, Ben's the guy, they proved it their first year together.
- 10:17[SPEAKER_02]: They looked really good through the first part of this season.
- 10:21[SPEAKER_02]: Again, they look really good together.
- 10:24[SPEAKER_02]: This was the time to make this move.
- 10:26[SPEAKER_02]: The relationship that Paul's had with, with the
- 10:34[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect timing things worked out and here's the bears now again, we've talked about it over the whole Ben Johnson era.
- 10:41[SPEAKER_02]: There are certain things that just wouldn't have happened in years past.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those things just, you know, the joke to me trade, you know, those things just never never happened good for the bears like, you know, Jonah Jackson works out.
- 10:52[SPEAKER_02]: And now who we got the big trade with him and so it's a new era for bears.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, this is one of the, I mean, if you guys are poker players, right?
- 11:01[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, the concept of like betting on the come, which is, you know, like you're betting for something to happen into the future, that's what happened with Mac.
- 11:09[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was a bad idea to get Clil Mac.
- 11:11[SPEAKER_01]: Clil Mac, Clil Mac, a player.
- 11:13[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one again was was to certainly worth it, right?
- 11:16[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, let's, let's, let's, let's run that back.
- 11:19[SPEAKER_01]: And let's reload.
- 11:20[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, reload, reload, reload, um, you know, let's do that again, but certainly won't
- 11:29[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a very different situation because again, like poker, we see a lot of the cards.
- 11:37[SPEAKER_01]: And we know that the cards that we're holding are really good.
- 11:40[SPEAKER_01]: And so putting a lot of chips into the middle is more just a bet on I think my hand is going to be better than yours as opposed to I haven't even seen the whole cards yet, but I'm, I'm putting some money in because I'm, I'm trying to get a knock some of you out.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_01]: So it's,
- 11:56[SPEAKER_01]: you know, whatever it is what it is, but this is a it's a different thing.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_01]: I also think that sometimes bears fans and you know, we in general can just kind of get caught up and what has happened in our history only rather than looking at the entire league as a marker or kind of stepping back.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, it's the easiest way to think about this.
- 12:16[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, well, this happened
- 12:18[SPEAKER_01]: for Mac, and we didn't win a championship, but it's like, yeah, but this is not Mac.
- 12:22[SPEAKER_01]: This is a great defense player, but this is a very different situation.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, enough, enough, trying to strip you talk for now.
- 12:31[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get into the stat of the week.
- 12:33[SPEAKER_01]: There were so many numbers.
- 12:34[SPEAKER_01]: This is the fun thing about covering a team that's good at offense, is that it seems like every camera's like, I don't know what to choose, but where do you want to go with this one?
- 12:45[SPEAKER_02]: I got a few numbers this week.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_02]: My numbers are 17, 17, 80 and 832.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_02]: 17 played drive to start the game by the bears when 80 yards.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_02]: It took eight minutes, 32 seconds.
- 13:00[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, we knew this would be a close game, but the bears came out and he just
- 13:06[SPEAKER_02]: they were kicking the Seattle's ass.
- 13:07[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was like, like, teams don't do this to the C-Ox.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_02]: So I found some few other things through the, what, love your role as social media.
- 13:15[SPEAKER_02]: The first team to score a touchdown on their opening drive against C-Ox sent to Niners in 2025 week one.
- 13:22[SPEAKER_02]: That's an ESPN nugget they had.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_02]: The C-Ox have not allowed points and they opened and drive in 16 straight games.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_02]: That was something that Danny Parken's found in Paul.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_02]: And then this was the first red zone drive.
- 13:34[SPEAKER_02]: Not even points, the first red zone drive, the CX have allowed in their last 17 drives against.
- 13:41[SPEAKER_02]: This is a good defense.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_02]: It's an even better defense when they're playing at home with that ridiculously loud crowd.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_02]: And it didn't face Caleb.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_02]: He was out there, he was running and running the show.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_02]: They're playing with good tempo, not just that first drive, the entire game.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_02]: But that first drive, kind of set the tone,
- 14:04[SPEAKER_02]: the bears are serious.
- 14:06[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be a game here because you know they had to think, you know, defending through full champions.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_02]: We got 12 is behind us.
- 14:15[SPEAKER_02]: This soft, you know, this offense to the kid there can do anything against us.
- 14:21[SPEAKER_02]: And the bears came out there and they just went down surgically and put six on the board.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_01]: It was a super impressive drive and I won fourth down conversion, I believe, on that drive and a equipment, of course, I would punt this, I was like, yeah, okay, but, okay, cool, you're not being Johnson, because there's no doubt my mind that he was going for that.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_01]: uh yeah just a lot of really good stuff and Caleb just came in and line a skirmish and that's a lot of place to and to be able to communicate that because he's he's constantly going up and saying like you know okay kill kill we're gonna flip the play here's the mic pointing that out you know he's doing all the verbal and non verbal communication that maybe I already referenced it at the one time that he kill killed and then he reloaded when Seattle moved a linebacker
- 15:10[SPEAKER_01]: I got caught that like in the moment, I said, this is cool.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_01]: I went back when I watched it today and I was like, man, this is, this is amazing stuff.
- 15:16[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, really, really cool stuff and like I said, this, this is a defense of this doesn't happen to and you knew that it was going to be tough to score points, but at the end of the day you looked up and it was like, oh, there's 34 on the board for the versus pretty amazing.
- 15:32[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what's going to happen when the bears now that they're getting back to full strength and Caleb's looking better.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_01]: The bucks have a pretty good defense, so I'm not sure exactly what's going to happen there.
- 15:41[SPEAKER_01]: But like, after the buy week, right, you get, you get, you get, hopefully everybody's healthy, and you're, you're, you're fully prepped.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_01]: They give the Saints.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're, that's just etched for a, for a huge offensive outburst.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have the dolphins at some point.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_01]: They got the lions.
- 15:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's some, there's some defences that are going to give them some easier points.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're putting up 34 against the Seahawks on the road,
- 16:06[SPEAKER_01]: This is why Ben Johnson had the confidence of that they could score a lot of points and wanted to be the most prolific offense of history.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure they're going to get that this year given the K-Lob absence, but they really are on a different level right now.
- 16:19[SPEAKER_01]: It's really cool.
- 16:21[SPEAKER_01]: All right, mine is 15.4%.
- 16:25[SPEAKER_01]: That is the Blitzrate from last night by Denis Allen's defense, which is by far the lowest of the year.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_01]: What a difference Jeffrey Simmons makes.
- 16:34[SPEAKER_01]: I guess this is another Jeffrey Simmons set.
- 16:37[SPEAKER_01]: That's that.
- 16:38[SPEAKER_01]: Another number 14 number of pressures that the defense created off of that 15% Blitzrate.
- 16:46[SPEAKER_01]: So like, you know, not just the pressure rate, but 14 pressures total.
- 16:51[SPEAKER_01]: That's the third most that they've had.
- 16:53[SPEAKER_01]: They recorded three sacks in the game, which was a nice result, and then I had another number that I wanted to make sure that we got to, which was 23.8, which is their defensive third-down conversion rate, which is now number one in the league.
- 17:10[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so they took over the, the number one spot from the Vikings.
- 17:15[SPEAKER_02]: So a sound.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_02]: He's a magician.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_02]: We've been told, right?
- 17:18[SPEAKER_01]: He's a sound.
- 17:18[SPEAKER_01]: The magic can't be the players.
- 17:20[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to be, I think.
- 17:22[SPEAKER_01]: Because everybody said those, that was the worst unit in the league.
- 17:25[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's just going to be the magician that is.
- 17:27[SPEAKER_01]: And again, we, we love Dennis Allen.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_01]: We think he's a very good football coach.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_01]: But, but now you've got this.
- 17:34[SPEAKER_01]: You know, plant it, you know, that that that everything can kind of orbit around here in Jeffrey Simmons and you know Dennis Allen can be a lot more creative on the back in he doesn't have to be so creative in terms of trying to get pressure I think he'll still.
- 17:49[SPEAKER_01]: have some creative pressures and yeah he's they're probably going to get home a lot more frequently because they're still going to have to account for Jefferson.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be a lot of fun, but I am that is a huge contrast to almost certainly what Seattle was prepping for.
- 18:05[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that they were prepping for a high blitz rate and a lot of exotic stuff and they didn't really get that thrown at them.
- 18:12[SPEAKER_01]: They just got old school
- 18:14[SPEAKER_01]: rush for football at him and they couldn't contain it even with their newly acquired you know all stud guard and in quit Nelson.
- 18:24[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought it was an incredibly impressive performance from Jeffrey Simmons and the rest of the defense that really stepped up their game.
- 18:33[SPEAKER_02]: Now's an out of great game.
- 18:35[SPEAKER_02]: He got beat.
- 18:35[SPEAKER_02]: I think once early and then I kind of was watching what was watching the trenches.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_02]: He had a nice game.
- 18:40[SPEAKER_02]: He's definitely going to help the Seahawks run game get back on a track, but it's a guard.
- 18:45[SPEAKER_02]: It's one player.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm only so much a guard can do for an offense unless you don't have five pretty good guys are front.
- 18:51[SPEAKER_02]: And the Seahawks will round in the form here.
- 18:54[SPEAKER_02]: They'll get going and they'll be fine.
- 18:55[SPEAKER_02]: They'll be much better down the road once they get some of their guys back, but
- 18:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean Jeffrey Simmons the Jeffrey Simmons effect had to do with the blitzing and I did I like how early on I think was the first series.
- 19:09[SPEAKER_02]: He sent Kylie Gordon off yet.
- 19:11[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, look here's our guy We're still coming this is the same old bears.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna come get you and then Kylie Gordon had had a big shot on Darnold and the rest of the game we didn't see him much.
- 19:21[SPEAKER_02]: He was up there.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_02]: He was bluffing but he would drop and the bears They did a lot with someone who looks they had and
- 19:27[SPEAKER_02]: And that's one thing that I knew as soon as a when they got Simmons that it would eventually shift.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think what happened is quick, but I mean when you got Jeffrey sentence, you can do whatever you want.
- 19:37[SPEAKER_02]: I guess not as a defense.
- 19:39[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, Jason, Jackson Smith's jig, but he's still got over 100 yards in a touchdown, but like, yes, as good as he is, and as rough as the bear's cornerbacks, it had been, if you would have offered me 118 yards and one touchdown for for Jason at the beginning of the game, I would have been deal like I would have gotten down on about
- 20:03[SPEAKER_01]: So fast because I would have been like that's a that's a good result against against him and really that was their only offense That was the only one that could really get anything going with it.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't really get the run game going and you know Darnell the Brutal like throwing the wall to anybody else.
- 20:20[SPEAKER_01]: So Really good result really good game planning again He gave these guys a couple extra days and they can tailor make a game plan.
- 20:27[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's pretty impressive stuff.
- 20:28[SPEAKER_01]: So
- 20:29[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to social media portion.
- 20:31[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet tweets.
- 20:31[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have you start this.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_02]: So Benjamin Sola, who does a lot of good stuff for ESPN.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_02]: He tweeted out, I remain constantly in awe of how many modes the bears have to win games.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_02]: Explosives in the passing game, the vertical rushing attack, pre-snack or they can dunk defense can also create explosive swings.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_02]: Special teams showed up tonight.
- 20:54[SPEAKER_02]: This is what Super Bowl teams look like.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
- 20:59[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful.
- 20:59[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this was a complete win, you know, special teams at Block, you know, Torrey Taylor had a fun block, and it's still in 45 yards, right?
- 21:10[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of Santos, perfect, right?
- 21:12[SPEAKER_02]: Defends came up, you said three sacks, they had a pick, you know, James Lynch, come that I know over the pick, and then the offense, of course, is Caleb William Benjatt, and so, I mean,
- 21:22[SPEAKER_02]: You lose cold combat, obviously, that's going to hurt you because you're built to be a 13 personal team that you want to do a lot of that.
- 21:29[SPEAKER_02]: That hurt you, right?
- 21:30[SPEAKER_02]: Because that was a big party or your game plan.
- 21:33[SPEAKER_02]: But Ben Johnson was able to quickly pit it because he's like, fine, I'll just run more three receiver sets.
- 21:39[SPEAKER_02]: I used Johnny Walker as an insert blocker instead of my exercise.
- 21:43[SPEAKER_02]: I did now because Johnny Walker is a big receiver.
- 21:46[SPEAKER_02]: He can do that.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_02]: I'll bring a Luke Newman as a six offensive line.
- 21:49[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, we're going to keep rolling because because I'm I'm Ben friggin Johnson and I'm going to keep doing this and they don't care like like like Ben so except so many ways they can beat you and they've they've shown them all these last few weeks.
- 22:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think they did a nice job of using tempo and, you know, that one sequence where they ran the ball and then the offensive linemen started like, like, reload, run it back, run it back, run it again, and Johnson's yellow from the sidelines run it again, run it again, so like everybody is like saying like just, we're just going to smash this ball and we're one yard out, we're going to run the same pit play and they, they snap it play action roll out touchdown pass it's like,
- 22:33[SPEAKER_01]: That's so beautiful to take this team.
- 22:37[SPEAKER_01]: I thought of, I mean, to think of that, like this sequence, like, hey, here's this two-play thing that we can do, you know, and here's how you show it.
- 22:48[SPEAKER_01]: The showmanship, I mean, there's so many things and layers of this stuff.
- 22:52[SPEAKER_01]: This is so much fun.
- 22:53[SPEAKER_01]: This is so much fun to watch every week.
- 22:57[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you guys are enjoying it.
- 22:59[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I hope that you guys get how much fun this is because like you say, it's not, and again, I think it's a really good point for Bendel because it's not just like, hey, they've got this offensive system that is downfield passing attack and like, that's what they do.
- 23:14[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, oh, you run into somebody who's could match up really well there or they get, they get pressure and then they don't really have an answer.
- 23:21[SPEAKER_01]: There's like,
- 23:22[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we're going to, oh, you want to take away the stuff downfield.
- 23:27[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, like we'll be happy to have Luther Burton have a game and, you know, dump it off to him and he'll create it because he's moves different.
- 23:35[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're going to sell out to stop everyone.
- 23:38[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we'll gladly pass over the top.
- 23:41[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, it's just it's just it is amazing to see that and that's that's exactly what you want.
- 23:47[SPEAKER_01]: It's what you want.
- 23:48[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you pay for with the offensive mind and what you got when you drafted Caleb one overall is a guy to to be able to make that happen.
- 23:56[SPEAKER_01]: So it is really fun.
- 23:57[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's cool stuff.
- 24:00[SPEAKER_01]: All right, mine's from Shield Capadia.
- 24:02[SPEAKER_01]: The Seahawks hadn't lost by more than four points and their last 30 games going back to 2024.
- 24:08[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the most impressive wins of the season.
- 24:10[SPEAKER_01]: The bears belong in any conversation about who the best team in the NFL is right now.
- 24:15[SPEAKER_01]: So, shield does a lot of good work.
- 24:18[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of this sentiment out there right now, though, is that the bears have kind of risen up into,
- 24:25[SPEAKER_01]: Well, are the bears the team to beat in the NFL or are they to beat in the NFC or are they the team that are they now the favorites in the division like you know take your level of enthusiasm about what you saw on Seattle and apply it and that's basically what you saw from a lot of the talking heads yesterday and I want I just want to be like great guys been.
- 24:45[SPEAKER_01]: because we've been talking about this all year.
- 24:47[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, we've been here like this is the rise here.
- 24:49[SPEAKER_01]: This is, you know, this idea of coming into the year.
- 24:53[SPEAKER_01]: And again, we've talked about this on the show, but like coming into the year with people like, well, you know, you're not gonna get all these come from behind wins and you're not gonna get that lucky again.
- 25:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know, but like when you're in head, you don't have to come from behind.
- 25:07[SPEAKER_01]: So like I get that we're not going to have all those.
- 25:10[SPEAKER_01]: We've been saying this like it's a different year.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_01]: The growth of this team is, you know, is going to show that this this team is is now a legit contender as opposed to last year, we're like man, they just they would have these flashes or, you know, sustain and they almost got to the energy championship game last year.
- 25:29[SPEAKER_01]: They think people, if you saw it as a flash in the pan, and they were just gonna regress and be bad and like missed the playoffs, you didn't really wash the game's last year.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_01]: They were rising.
- 25:43[SPEAKER_01]: And to come in this year with largely the same people, it didn't really lose a lot of you know, significant coaching, you know, respect to Declan Doyle, but like, you know, you didn't lose a coordinator, right?
- 25:55[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't lose most of your position coaches.
- 25:58[SPEAKER_01]: your key players on offense all returned with the exception of your center.
- 26:04[SPEAKER_01]: You know, your viter cv3 was replaced by the ideal version of your viter cv3 and clearly Raymond, right?
- 26:12[SPEAKER_01]: So there's overall, you could see that the line should have been moving up.
- 26:16[SPEAKER_01]: Now, yes, Caleb has made a tremendous leap and all of that has unlocked, you know, a tremendous amount in this offense.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_01]: But this shouldn't be a surprise for people that were paying attention.
- 26:28[SPEAKER_02]: Troy, I think we had a good point on the broadcast.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_02]: He talked about how a player's big jump is rookie year.
- 26:34[SPEAKER_02]: You know, what they make is year two to year three.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_02]: And they say quarterbacks is like, you know, the jump he's making now, it's it's year two in the scheme, right?
- 26:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's also Caleb's third year as a pro.
- 26:47[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he made big strides from his work year to his second year.
- 26:51[SPEAKER_02]: But he's making even bigger strides in Allen.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_02]: And the fish scene is game.
- 26:55[SPEAKER_02]: Every year he's fixed something, right?
- 26:58[SPEAKER_02]: This year it's this complete percentage, right?
- 27:00[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows what will be next year?
- 27:01[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if at some point I'll be nothing left to fix.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_02]: So we just, he'll be like the perfect quarterback at some point.
- 27:07[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to just, there's nothing else to fix here.
- 27:10[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be that guy.
- 27:12[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, speaking of being the guy, I'm starting to see some now some narrative that is Caleb a top, top, by quarterback in the NFL, right?
- 27:20[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like, so it's happening so fast where look, settle down a lot of fans.
- 27:25[SPEAKER_02]: You know, don't say it.
- 27:27[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's conversations in the old season.
- 27:29[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 27:29[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you know, but look, I mean, look, what they've done this these last three games has been ridiculous.
- 27:36[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb has put himself back in the MVP
- 27:40[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, I mean, why not have these conversations.
- 27:43[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's it makes sense.
- 27:45[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is this is what, like you said, we expected another year of growth.
- 27:49[SPEAKER_02]: And we're seeing it and we expect this to be a contender.
- 27:52[SPEAKER_02]: We're seeing it.
- 27:54[SPEAKER_02]: And I would Jeffrey Simmons on that defense.
- 27:57[SPEAKER_02]: maybe another move is coming, whether it's Kaleo Mac or a corner or someone else.
- 28:03[SPEAKER_02]: Ryan Paul's probably isn't done, because he has some ammunition, and he didn't say F.N.Pix to kind of joke, but I mean, where you are as a franchise, it makes sense to go all in, and the Simmons was a good move to go on, but there's even more to go all in with.
- 28:22[SPEAKER_02]: So let's get another move made here.
- 28:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that'll happen.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll find out soon that that trade deadline's coming up.
- 28:30[SPEAKER_01]: So, all right, let's, we've already kind of tease it.
- 28:32[SPEAKER_01]: Let's, let's, let's head into Caleb's going into it.
- 28:35[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I mean, again, this is against the best defense in the league.
- 28:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, please come in in this game statistically.
- 28:42[SPEAKER_01]: 2434, which is 70.6% completion percentage, 247 yards.
- 28:49[SPEAKER_01]: What have been a lot more?
- 28:51[SPEAKER_01]: What have been in the 280s had that pass been a forward pass to the Cleafram and not a backwards pass that then makes it a run.
- 29:00[SPEAKER_01]: But only one touchdown in no interceptions.
- 29:04[SPEAKER_01]: It's 101 rating.
- 29:06[SPEAKER_01]: It took one sack for 10 yards, credited with two rushes for one yard.
- 29:10[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, one of them was a meal down.
- 29:12[SPEAKER_01]: I love being able to say meal downs.
- 29:15[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's, you know, yeah, you know, a couple of them were kneeled down, but the touchdown roll out the burden where they talked about it, like that little kind of decoating thing, but it was also perfect placement on the ball.
- 29:27[SPEAKER_01]: It sounded an easy pass running, you know, running to your right, you know, delivering a ball.
- 29:31[SPEAKER_01]: He's incredibly good at it.
- 29:33[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think I saw four explosive pass plays, one to burden for 23 yards, and then three to Rome, 22, 23, 24.
- 29:43[SPEAKER_01]: just this like intermediate passing game that's just on fire, you know, command at the line of scrimmage, he was fired up on the sidelines, he was, you know, talking to the defense, like there, there's just so much about his leadership that's come a long way, there's so much about his arm talent, like you said locking in, you know, he, he's talked about how Rogers was the guy that
- 30:12[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's clearly his own guy and he's a little better at certain he's a little more athletic in some ways and obviously he's playing earlier than Rodgers played Rodgers sound on the bench for years before he got to play and you know, he was able to learn on the bench.
- 30:34[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb continues to take care of the football, you know, his touchdown interception ratio, once he's able to qualify as officially for that stat.
- 30:42[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, he's in second place all time to only Aaron Rogers, like he just takes care of the football in a way that
- 30:50[SPEAKER_01]: And again, he didn't come in as a fully formed quarterback.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's the other thing that I always find interesting about comparing the draft classes and a particularly Caleb's draft class is, you know, people want to talk, wow, you know, Jane Daniels and I bone X and, you know, and all this and it's like, well, okay, well, those two guys were like super duper seniors, right?
- 31:10[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were they weren't college for five years.
- 31:13[SPEAKER_01]: They had a lot of a lot of growth in college.
- 31:17[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb certainly had growth in college, but like he was a true junior when he came out, just like Drake May.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_01]: So they're younger in their football life than some of these older guys that are probably, I mean, I think Bonnex was already hitting his head on the ceiling when he came out as a draft pick, but like,
- 31:33[SPEAKER_01]: Some of those guys, they're at their natural ceiling, whereas when you're a younger player, you had less time, less reps in college, just because of only playing in for three years.
- 31:46[SPEAKER_01]: Naturally, you're going to have a little bit more growth to have to have happen.
- 31:51[SPEAKER_01]: And for him to be able to do that in a disaster year,
- 31:54[SPEAKER_01]: And then year one of a completely new system with Ben Johnson, and now your two worries were really kicking everything into high gear, and he still has some of these efficiency numbers from a career standpoint that are some of the best we've ever seen.
- 32:08[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, that's pretty amazing.
- 32:10[SPEAKER_01]: Like you say, like, what's he going to take care of?
- 32:12[SPEAKER_01]: At some point, it's just going to be like, okay, now I'm a football machine and I'm just going to like start putting some distance between myself and everybody else in the record books like that that's that's what it's going to be it's going to be a lot of fun to watch, but
- 32:38[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is amazing.
- 32:40[SPEAKER_01]: This is like a, uh, uh, uh, just a signal that this, uh, great things are going to be happening for the rest of the year, but for the next foreseeable future, this is in his third season.
- 32:51[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 32:51[SPEAKER_01]: That's the quarterback.
- 32:52[SPEAKER_01]: We could be counting on this.
- 32:53[SPEAKER_01]: We could retire, lesser, and Caleb Williams could still be playing quarterback.
- 32:58[SPEAKER_01]: You're never going to retire, but I'm going to retire naturally.
- 33:01[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, like I said, the most impressive thing is it's command, right?
- 33:05[SPEAKER_02]: When he, he just, he, he came to the line, you know, they, they snapped off quickly a lot of times, you know, they came in and checked out of stuff.
- 33:12[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows if it was bluffing or what he was doing, but like I said, the fact that he's doing this on the road in Seattle.
- 33:18[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that just isn't what teams do.
- 33:20[SPEAKER_02]: And you already said, you know, no other quarterback had as many yards as he had against that C.O.C defense this year.
- 33:26[SPEAKER_02]: He has the highest rating of any quarterback against the C.O.C defense this year.
- 33:30[SPEAKER_02]: He just does so much good for you.
- 33:32[SPEAKER_02]: And then like that my tweet was with Ben Solet, how they're doing in different ways, right?
- 33:37[SPEAKER_02]: These last three weeks, you know, it's been a different style.
- 33:41[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's the hamstring where he's just not on the move as much.
- 33:46[SPEAKER_02]: I was watching the Ben Johnson, the interview with Joniac today on ESPN, and they mentioned there's only four times he left the pocket, right, and that was partly by design, but also because he didn't have to.
- 33:57[SPEAKER_02]: One of those was that ridiculous, where he kind of broke a tackle by Leonard Williams, and you know, like, that's the Caleb, that's the special, that's the special stuff he brings.
- 34:06[SPEAKER_02]: But when he opens his clicking, he doesn't have to do that as much as he did,
- 34:13[SPEAKER_02]: it's he can win in so many different ways and it just stresses a defense it's it's some homes ask right that's as fans we sell my homes do this so many times and it got to point where it was like what he doesn't have to do it because Andy reads a hell of a coach that often just click and he got great weapons around him.
- 34:33[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we're seeing happen here in real time with the bears, great weapons around them, great online outstanding play call obviously, you know, like you said, if you take away the deep stuff, I'll think and thank you like I did against the fall.
- 34:46[SPEAKER_02]: It's right, and the Patriots another really good defense well coach defense he did it against them and
- 34:52[SPEAKER_02]: let's see, I don't see oxen.
- 34:53[SPEAKER_02]: And then this week against the buck and ears, another very good defense, you know, tadboles always says that team playing good.
- 34:58[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I saw the EPA, they're one of the top 5 EPA defenses in the league.
- 35:03[SPEAKER_02]: So another tough test for Caleb coming up here.
- 35:05[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, if they get through this triple prime time juggernaut of teams here, oh my god, it's gonna be like full hype ahead on the bears.
- 35:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then to a buy.
- 35:18[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's really the worry here is you got a little bit of a short week and you're coming home and you're looking at the buy so it's a little bit of a look ahead game worry right and so Ben just going to need to make sure that he keeps everybody and an emotional win against an NSE fo go into Seattle like that's there's a lot there's that let down game that that you've got you got a guard against but if you're able to come out of that.
- 35:43[SPEAKER_01]: Then go get healthy in the by week and come out with, I mean, you got to come again, you got to think it's saints then Thanksgiving.
- 35:53[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like it's a quick turn there.
- 35:56[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, never stops the challenges never stop, but it's you can kind of see this light of like, okay, you get to the buy seven and two.
- 36:09[SPEAKER_01]: get healthy, Caleb takes another couple of weeks with that hamstring.
- 36:14[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that he can run a little bit more, right?
- 36:17[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's going to start playing the division games at the end of the year, you can kind of see it, right?
- 36:23[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can kind of see this.
- 36:24[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned the homes, and you mentioned that time where people were like, oh, well, I mean, you got the guy, right?
- 36:31[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my home sad is for sure.
- 36:32[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 36:33[SPEAKER_01]: It's another, that's another guy that sat for a little bit and then I remember when he made the cheese made the Super Bowl and they lost their first one or maybe they went and made the MC championship game or whatever it was but like they he was very successful out of the gate but they didn't win it all as his first year and I was you know had some cheese fans in my life and I was like
- 36:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you've got your guy like him is young and like your guys are fine.
- 37:01[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna win one and like, you know, and fans don't fans don't want to hear that until they actually have it, right?
- 37:09[SPEAKER_01]: And and so again, like, I've asked for that moment for somebody else to tell me like, tell me when
- 37:15[SPEAKER_01]: to tell me because I'm seeing it, but I would love to hear it from somebody else.
- 37:20[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that this was sort of that net.
- 37:21[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's early November.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_01]: The Bears haven't won anything in early November in the Grand scheme of things.
- 37:27[SPEAKER_01]: You don't hang a banner for a roadwind in early November, like it was just not how it works.
- 37:33[SPEAKER_01]: But I think people are starting to recognize this team has the potential to do something big.
- 37:39[SPEAKER_01]: And so that to me says, okay.
- 37:42[SPEAKER_01]: Like this proof of concept is now out there and it looks like it's very good and so let's let's roll.
- 37:53[SPEAKER_02]: real quick what we're always in the same wavelength.
- 37:56[SPEAKER_02]: I just wrote about proof of concept with something else earlier today as well.
- 37:59[SPEAKER_02]: So it says 9 mills we have going on.
- 38:02[SPEAKER_01]: Well we talk all the time.
- 38:05[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's that's not a term that I've used much in my day to day and I don't think I heard use it.
- 38:11[SPEAKER_02]: We've happened to be thinking of it on the same day is just so weird.
- 38:16[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a little peak behind the curtain or a good friend and colleague Bill Zimmerman, he has given us some constructive feedback in the past that says, you guys agree too much.
- 38:26[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 38:27[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, the show would be better if you argued more.
- 38:30[SPEAKER_01]: You know, building a producer is probably very good advice, but you know what, it is what it is.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_01]: It's natural if we're agreeing, we're agreeing.
- 38:36[SPEAKER_01]: No, but if you do, sometimes I try to, I try to poke the bear.
- 38:39[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
- 38:40[SPEAKER_01]: That's just more fun.
- 38:41[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 38:41[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 38:42[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, quick break on the other side of this.
- 38:43[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to everybody's favorite category.
- 38:45[SPEAKER_01]: Three bears stick with us.
- 38:49[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 38:49[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say three bears hotball a porridge, coldball porridge and just right where you want to go.
- 38:55[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to stay in the trenches that I'm going to go mantas wet.
- 38:59[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, an office coming up is two games a spreadsheet for PDs.
- 39:03[SPEAKER_02]: Still a no way took whatever was it was obviously mistake two tackles tackle for loss one sack just one sack three quarterback hits get two sacks negated by penalty as well so he was energized right I mean again is the chair for some of the fact For routine mates you know he just you know he you could tell that he really enjoyed having his guy next to him because you know
- 39:27[SPEAKER_02]: Montessweb will never see a double, you know, you're not going to see a chip very often.
- 39:31[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be left one hour one pretty much all the time in Montessweb can beat those.
- 39:35[SPEAKER_02]: And you mentioned the force multiplier.
- 39:37[SPEAKER_02]: That was what we heard about Montessweb when he was trading the bears.
- 39:40[SPEAKER_02]: He was that guy and then he did.
- 39:41[SPEAKER_02]: He had a nice first year with the bears and then I think as, you know, he had off year the next year and he had a pretty good year last year.
- 39:49[SPEAKER_02]: Just, you know, didn't show up really statistically, but he's a good football player.
- 39:56[SPEAKER_02]: check for Simmons good.
- 39:57[SPEAKER_02]: So the fact that you have Jefferson is next to him, you know, we're going to see the best amount that's what going forward.
- 40:03[SPEAKER_02]: You know, not just swept a book or book read a nice game, you know, you're going to see this entire defense just, you know, go to the next level, but the fact that Matt just swept first came out of the gate broke out like this.
- 40:15[SPEAKER_02]: Now you got opposing offenses.
- 40:17[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.
- 40:18[SPEAKER_02]: Let's let that guy now too, it just gives you a gives an opposing offense more to think about when there's more than just Simmons, you know, you got to you got to scheme up how to stop a lot of this stuff.
- 40:29[SPEAKER_01]: talked about it a lot in terms of like how you slot in the, you know, in the pecking order.
- 40:35[SPEAKER_01]: So, speak of talent level.
- 40:37[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're the number one guy, but you're not really a number one guy.
- 40:41[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's pretty easy for the offense, the game plan to take you out of it.
- 40:45[SPEAKER_01]: And Montes wet is a really good football player.
- 40:48[SPEAKER_01]: And we really like him.
- 40:50[SPEAKER_01]: As your best defensive lineman, that's not an ideal setup.
- 40:58[SPEAKER_01]: That's really great, right?
- 40:59[SPEAKER_01]: So either you get like, you know, when the bears were looking at some of these, well, we don't know if they're actually looking.
- 41:05[SPEAKER_01]: But when bears fans were hoping for some of these trades, right?
- 41:08[SPEAKER_01]: You know, wanting to be in on the Max Crosby trader, something like that.
- 41:12[SPEAKER_01]: And they say like, okay, well then then months of sweats or number two, and like that slots in really great, and everybody's happy.
- 41:20[SPEAKER_01]: That's what this is, right?
- 41:21[SPEAKER_01]: Montes wet is now a great number two, and he's, and it's his buddy.
- 41:26[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how cool is that, right?
- 41:28[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, my one of my best friends just got traded to play next to me.
- 41:34[SPEAKER_01]: And neither one of them were drafted by the bearers, right?
- 41:37[SPEAKER_01]: They're both acquired by trade.
- 41:39[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just, this is cool.
- 41:40[SPEAKER_01]: You would have never like draft go back to draft night.
- 41:42[SPEAKER_01]: These guys are going separate ways.
- 41:44[SPEAKER_01]: And now they come to baton together in the middle of a season of Chicago.
- 41:47[SPEAKER_01]: It's just really cool to me.
- 41:49[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely wanted to make sure we pointed out what should have had three sex.
- 41:53[SPEAKER_01]: You can see how disappointed he was when these holding calls, the gate it.
- 41:57[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, Oh, come on.
- 41:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's go.
- 42:00[SPEAKER_01]: I want these.
- 42:02[SPEAKER_01]: So it could have been a lot of words.
- 42:03[SPEAKER_01]: One of them was, I don't even know what that was weird call.
- 42:08[SPEAKER_01]: You know, refs miscalls on both sides last night, but there was a couple of times where I was like, yeah, okay, let's let's not try to get the home team back into it.
- 42:18[SPEAKER_01]: Just just for, just a few girls here come on.
- 42:21[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's, let's, let's,
- 42:23[SPEAKER_01]: Keep that flag in your pocket or can you throw a hold the holding call, please.
- 42:29[SPEAKER_01]: You're mugging this guy.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you actually kind of mentioned it, but mine was going to be booker.
- 42:34[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 42:35[SPEAKER_01]: Three tackles.
- 42:36[SPEAKER_01]: One tip ball that resulted in that interception.
- 42:40[SPEAKER_01]: And then the field gold block.
- 42:42[SPEAKER_01]: I was on a Seahawks podcast late last week on Friday, I believe.
- 42:47[SPEAKER_01]: And
- 42:48[SPEAKER_01]: he the host asked me to identify a player that seahawks fans might not know that they should be familiar with and I said Austin Booker and I say it's got a little juice and you know he's probably not a guy that you've heard of before and so yeah he's okay yeah we'll be aware of him and I was like
- 43:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for the game was like, you've got a game ball that's pretty good call by me, uh, to to call him out.
- 43:11[SPEAKER_01]: So I felt pretty good about that one, uh, but I thought overall, I mean, that's another guy that you're benefiting from this, this trade because now bookers probably are third best defensive linemen.
- 43:23[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that's, that's fine for Booker to be your, if you're expecting him to be your number two, you might be all this pointed, but your number three,
- 43:35[SPEAKER_02]: wait till dayo gets back, right?
- 43:37[SPEAKER_02]: Boom, motivated dayo.
- 43:38[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's there's some stuff coming here.
- 43:40[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, the thing is that everyone moves down the pack a little bit and makes everyone better because of that.
- 43:44[SPEAKER_02]: And because they're good call, I mean, he was really good there.
- 43:47[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like you said, he has the juicy.
- 43:49[SPEAKER_02]: He's always hustling.
- 43:51[SPEAKER_02]: He's constant movement, you know, and this is going to help him.
- 43:55[SPEAKER_02]: You know, again, whenever there's great town in in your room,
- 43:59[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to learn from since all these young guys are.
- 44:02[SPEAKER_02]: So that's just, you know, that's part of it, the culture part of it.
- 44:05[SPEAKER_02]: And again, you heard him talk about it.
- 44:07[SPEAKER_02]: They want, he talks about that, that's what the kind of guy he wants to be.
- 44:11[SPEAKER_02]: He is a leader you want to give of himself and it's going to make everyone in that room better.
- 44:17[SPEAKER_01]: There's a little bit of, you know, we both identify defensive ends, right?
- 44:22[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a little bit, and this is what's exciting to me, is that when you are protecting a lead, your defensive linemen start to halt.
- 44:33[SPEAKER_01]: And you could see that last night where they have all of them were like, I want one.
- 44:38[SPEAKER_01]: I want one.
- 44:39[SPEAKER_01]: And they just the different.
- 44:41[SPEAKER_01]: Now, obviously, yes, of course, they're trying to get sacks throughout the whole game, but there's something about this like, we know you're passing.
- 44:49[SPEAKER_01]: years are pin back, we're in a sprinter stance, we're going.
- 44:52[SPEAKER_01]: We're coming for you.
- 44:53[SPEAKER_01]: There's something really cool about that when they can be one dimensionally.
- 44:56[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a hit or this, like you got to throw me a fastball here.
- 45:00[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sitting on a fastball and I'm going to I'm going to try to take it out.
- 45:02[SPEAKER_01]: And it's fun and I think that that's particularly when the bears are playing some lesser opponents, which they will have a few of those at some point on this schedule, this daunting schedule that they've been playing.
- 45:15[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to see a lot more
- 45:18[SPEAKER_01]: I flip it around cold wool porridge.
- 45:19[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where you want to go with this.
- 45:21[SPEAKER_01]: This is a huge win.
- 45:21[SPEAKER_01]: So get creative.
- 45:24[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I couldn't go on a couple of the, of the Caitlin Johnson.
- 45:27[SPEAKER_02]: We can touch them a little bit, but I'm going to go one play.
- 45:31[SPEAKER_02]: It was the third down touchdown that Jackson Smith and Jigba.
- 45:36[SPEAKER_02]: Why is Dennis Allen calling a blitz with leaving JSN in one-on-one coverage against
- 45:47[SPEAKER_02]: He was toast.
- 45:48[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, Jack and Smith and Jigbiz, he is a guy.
- 45:51[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like they said in a broadcast, he's teach tape.
- 45:54[SPEAKER_02]: His role running is teach tape.
- 45:56[SPEAKER_02]: He cooked jail in a few times.
- 45:57[SPEAKER_02]: He cooked Tyreeke a few times.
- 45:59[SPEAKER_02]: So why would you take a chance?
- 46:01[SPEAKER_02]: And that's situation, leaving him one on one when he's pretty much their own, their other offense.
- 46:07[SPEAKER_02]: You know, double move, down to sign line,
- 46:11[SPEAKER_02]: right there, it touched on.
- 46:12[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, so my cold bowl, after all that, just then a sound for calling that play, that one play.
- 46:19[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, really, it can be like a thimble, you know, just a little bit, just, you know, because it's, it was a really good performance overall.
- 46:28[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, that was a lapse of judgment.
- 46:30[SPEAKER_01]: And again, happen right at the end of the half, that's definitely something we don't want to see because, you know, the double dipping, you know, scoring before the end of the half, then getting the ball back and scoring it started the second half.
- 46:41[SPEAKER_01]: That's what really good teams do and I would really like to have that happen.
- 46:46[SPEAKER_01]: for real.
- 46:47[SPEAKER_01]: You score the two touchdowns and really just put a game away.
- 46:50[SPEAKER_01]: Mine is, you know, all of the freezing cold takes that are out are now getting our photos, but by people, I think we could ship some cold bowls out there.
- 47:02[SPEAKER_01]: I also, I kind of want to give it to the people that
- 47:07[SPEAKER_01]: are flipping a little bit, maybe we should allow space for people to change their minds and grow and hop on board, whatever, but we need to like, you want to hop on the bears train, the Caleb hype train, you want to do that.
- 47:23[SPEAKER_01]: You're in the cold room, bevelin, cold for a while, buddy, because we've been here, we've been moving this thing, and you've been nothing but trying to slow us down.
- 47:35[SPEAKER_01]: You know, or live ski, guys like that, like, you know, just like, oh, now it's like, oh, look at him.
- 47:39[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, Peyton Manning at the line.
- 47:41[SPEAKER_01]: Look at, I think he's the one person's like, get out of here with this.
- 47:43[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you've been one of the worst critics here for it's never any time the bears do something good.
- 47:51[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb does something good.
- 47:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well, I've got defense, just played terrible here.
- 47:55[SPEAKER_01]: You know, get out of here.
- 47:56[SPEAKER_01]: That guy drives me nuts, right?
- 47:57[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of them like that.
- 47:59[SPEAKER_01]: They don't like him for XYZ or they're taking this position because they have to take
- 48:03[SPEAKER_01]: you know, that their producer told them that they have to take the negative position, whatever it is.
- 48:08[SPEAKER_01]: But it's been, you know, it's been coming through my timeline for a long time.
- 48:13[SPEAKER_01]: And you see those people are either going away.
- 48:16[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want to serve in the cold bowl and like eat it.
- 48:20[SPEAKER_01]: Or like some of these people that are flipping now, I just want to be like, ah, we didn't forget.
- 48:26[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's my cold bowl.
- 48:27[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sending it out to the haters with all of their freezing cold takes and then, you know, suck on this.
- 48:32[SPEAKER_02]: That's the nice thing out, Bear Spanches.
- 48:34[SPEAKER_02]: They'll pull those receipts.
- 48:35[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
- 48:36[SPEAKER_02]: And Caleb, I don't know if you've got it so us media, he has been sharing receipts on his Instagram feed.
- 48:42[SPEAKER_02]: So, he sees it too, right?
- 48:45[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, Bear Spanches are all over it.
- 48:47[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're sharing stuff.
- 48:48[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb sees the bear's fan share and it's he shares in it's like, yeah, let's let's let's keep these all all these idiots keep them accountable.
- 48:55[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we knew what you said before, you know, this was this was it was an excuse.
- 49:00[SPEAKER_02]: There was a reason why I was doing this before now.
- 49:02[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm good.
- 49:03[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
- 49:03[SPEAKER_02]: I get that.
- 49:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, I love it.
- 49:07[SPEAKER_02]: All right, just right.
- 49:07[SPEAKER_02]: What do you got?
- 49:09[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to go as the Trepello here.
- 49:14[SPEAKER_02]: And here's why he only played six naps all on special things.
- 49:18[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't get in the game in offense at all.
- 49:20[SPEAKER_02]: And Dan Roshar online coach might have even been before the game.
- 49:24[SPEAKER_02]: He had an interview where you just said that he didn't play good to last a couple games.
- 49:28[SPEAKER_02]: So they're going to go more with the affinity.
- 49:30[SPEAKER_02]: So again, they do had this plan kind of easing in slowly events.
- 49:36[SPEAKER_02]: See, I think they wanted to take over.
- 49:38[SPEAKER_02]: No, wasn't working out.
- 49:40[SPEAKER_02]: So.
- 49:41[SPEAKER_02]: again, that's a smart coaching decision.
- 49:43[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good move here.
- 49:45[SPEAKER_02]: No, let's just have you play special teams here.
- 49:47[SPEAKER_02]: You're not quite at the point where you're ready to go yet.
- 49:50[SPEAKER_02]: And then now, of course, there's an issue where a benefit they may have an issue with a shoulder.
- 49:55[SPEAKER_02]: I know Nicholas Morano had a tweet saying something about how after the game he said he had something with a shoulder.
- 50:00[SPEAKER_02]: No, no official news yet, so it kind of see what happens there.
- 50:03[SPEAKER_02]: But
- 50:08[SPEAKER_02]: We'll just sit you down here, special teams.
- 50:11[SPEAKER_02]: This is where you need to do the to be to help our team right now.
- 50:14[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just go out there and do this.
- 50:16[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get you in there at some point.
- 50:17[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that maybe sooner than later, but I got to go.
- 50:21[SPEAKER_02]: I want to, I want to, I want to the place talk about Azi and what happened here just so I figured it was a good spot.
- 50:24[SPEAKER_02]: Just stick it in.
- 50:26[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why he's getting the dress right this week.
- 50:30[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's an important part of the future.
- 50:34[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 50:35[SPEAKER_01]: But when you're coming back from a very serious injury, way faster than anybody thought you could, and you still need that ramp up time.
- 50:44[SPEAKER_01]: And so to think that he was going to be able to come in right away, and just kind of re-establish that form, was probably wishful thinking.
- 50:50[SPEAKER_01]: So,
- 50:51[SPEAKER_01]: Like you say, smart on the coaching staff, incredibly important game, they're all important, but like this is, you know, you knew this is going to be a challenging game.
- 50:59[SPEAKER_01]: You really just couldn't afford to have somebody out there giving away snaps.
- 51:05[SPEAKER_01]: And that could have, you know, it could have changed the course of the game.
- 51:10[SPEAKER_01]: Had they played, tried to force it and play him in this in this tight spot.
- 51:14[SPEAKER_01]: So,
- 51:15[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there'd be interesting to see what they think of him playing a few snaps next week, again, Tampa Bay, which is not as good of a team as a Seattle, at least in my mind, and back at home.
- 51:27[SPEAKER_01]: And order, they want to give them a couple more weeks with that by week, looming.
- 51:32[SPEAKER_01]: and kind of certainly you feel a little bit better about their chances and against New Orleans coming to town who were not as good football team.
- 51:41[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's interesting.
- 51:43[SPEAKER_01]: All right, for me, I just right, it's going to be Rome, four catches, 87 yards.
- 51:47[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the distance on his catches, 24, 23, 22, 18.
- 51:59[SPEAKER_01]: laying just pure X here.
- 52:02[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's just he's he's down catching intermediate balls.
- 52:07[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just I he's pumped up.
- 52:11[SPEAKER_01]: He's blocking well like he's he's he's he's playing really good football and
- 52:17[SPEAKER_01]: I know some fans, you know, they get like I first heard with Rome for some drops, they had the drop last year, you know, had a drop earlier this year.
- 52:25[SPEAKER_01]: I get it, this guy's super talented.
- 52:29[SPEAKER_01]: And he's running really good routes.
- 52:31[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he's part of that Ben Soulak tweet that you shared earlier, like, you know, I'm amazed by all the different ways that the bears can beat you.
- 52:42[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's a reason for one of and two or three of those ways because he can run these routes and kind of own those that intermediate part of the field and he could go deep to just have it hasn't really caught they haven't connected yet on that yet, but that intermediate game is so important to this offense and in Rome is is really the the piece that's best at that.
- 53:05[SPEAKER_02]: He's very good on the scramble drill this year.
- 53:07[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen him kind of come up.
- 53:09[SPEAKER_02]: The one plat talked earlier with with, uh, what Caleb escaped the sack.
- 53:13[SPEAKER_02]: He scrambled and he hit Rome.
- 53:14[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, he's he's doing this now, you know, weekly.
- 53:18[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that's not just wrong with the the entire offense is like,
- 53:22[SPEAKER_02]: For years, we'd say, how come they can't run a scramble drill?
- 53:25[SPEAKER_02]: And Ben Johnson comes in and he's fixed that.
- 53:28[SPEAKER_02]: That's something that's, you know, he realized that's a important part of the game plan.
- 53:33[SPEAKER_02]: So now you see the bears are all on the same page and this happens and Rome is just, you know, these deep dig rods you just come in and it's like, and then yeah, look, the balls,
- 53:43[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a laser.
- 53:44[SPEAKER_02]: He's the Caleb putting a word as to be put.
- 53:47[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, he's running the route.
- 53:49[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's the guy getting open.
- 53:50[SPEAKER_02]: He's a guy making these, you know, these good decisions that had his break and he's setting these guys up.
- 53:55[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we kind of saw one at the end of the half where they kind of tried to end on the sideline and he was open, right?
- 54:02[SPEAKER_02]: He had a nice move on his route.
- 54:04[SPEAKER_02]: So,
- 54:05[SPEAKER_02]: You know, some of the bigger plays are coming.
- 54:07[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about bigger plays.
- 54:09[SPEAKER_02]: He had three explosives, right?
- 54:10[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm some of that really big explosives are coming, but yeah, good football player does a lot for you.
- 54:16[SPEAKER_02]: No block, no rock, Rome is bought into that.
- 54:18[SPEAKER_02]: He's a big part of the run game.
- 54:20[SPEAKER_02]: And again, with come at down, you're going to ask some of the receivers to do a little more block.
- 54:24[SPEAKER_02]: And probably we saw Jaggi Walker.
- 54:25[SPEAKER_02]: We said, Clay Freeman, sticking with those in there, you know, you need good football players at every position and Rome is definitely a good football player.
- 54:35[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, a really good win.
- 54:37[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a couple more notes.
- 54:38[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any more notes that you wanted to share?
- 54:41[SPEAKER_02]: Don't forget.
- 54:42[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see how much you got.
- 54:43[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so bears have 17 rushing touchdowns and eight games.
- 54:48[SPEAKER_01]: That's the most since 1956 franchise was.
- 54:52[SPEAKER_01]: So that's pretty impressive.
- 54:54[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're looking at this and being like,
- 54:56[SPEAKER_01]: Why does Caleb have only six touchdown passes if he's playing so well?
- 55:02[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yeah, that's true.
- 55:05[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have a lot of the big over the top touchdown passes, but they have 17 rushing touchdowns.
- 55:11[SPEAKER_01]: So they're moving, he's moving the offense and then they get down near the goal line and they're punching it in.
- 55:17[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's really, that's really what it is, but 17 rushing touchdowns through eight games, most since the 50s.
- 55:23[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, that's pretty amazing stuff.
- 55:25[SPEAKER_01]: Courtney Kronen had a tweet about the like three straight games of 30 points or more, and I had to go back to 1948, and then she was saying that happened like 41 and 43 and 48 or so.
- 55:38[SPEAKER_01]: I had to have the years wrong, but I was like,
- 55:40[SPEAKER_01]: I said luck and smile and I love it.
- 55:44[SPEAKER_01]: Bear the T4 mission with man and motion change the change the league.
- 55:48[SPEAKER_01]: Good stuff.
- 55:49[SPEAKER_01]: And I got one more note here, Leicester, the grid iron borne, scored 273.8 points against the training camp, fugitives, 260.
- 56:00[SPEAKER_01]: But the big win in the fantasy league of bears fans and our dynasty league.
- 56:05[SPEAKER_01]: So I just wanted to give you an opportunity to respond to our big showdown.
- 56:11[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when you didn't mention it when we're having a little pre-talk, pre-show chat here, I'm thinking he's saving the fantasy to dig it that he beat me in our league this.
- 56:20[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was saying, you know, I had two receivers do nothing, literally got nothing.
- 56:25[SPEAKER_02]: It was a bad game.
- 56:26[SPEAKER_02]: I had another unlucky game here, but you know, it happens.
- 56:31[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still, uh, I'm still in the playoff hunt, so to speak.
- 56:35[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll, I may see you get in the in the post.
- 56:37[SPEAKER_01]: You're comfortably in the playoff hunt, uh, and we'll say that that excuse doesn't work for me since I had Drake London and Bijan Robinson in a monsoon, and they barely scored any points, and those were two of my best players.
- 56:48[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, moved to A to no for anybody that wants to know
- 56:55[SPEAKER_01]: hopefully get a buy week and maybe see lesser in the playoffs with some home field advantage.
- 57:00[SPEAKER_01]: So I just wanted update everybody on that, you know, it's always fun to be able to beat your co-hosts.
- 57:06[SPEAKER_01]: So first you're in the league.
- 57:08[SPEAKER_01]: So this is our first match up.
- 57:09[SPEAKER_01]: But all right, we will get out of here.
- 57:12[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate everybody.
- 57:13[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate for joining us for those of you in the YouTube.
- 57:17[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, guys, this is this is a six second stuff.
- 57:22[SPEAKER_01]: this is really good, you know, another prime time game.
- 57:27[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I can my sleep schedule can take this new reality because I have to stay up to watch for the good better best videos.
- 57:37[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 57:37[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not getting a bed until like midnight, but it is what it is, man.
- 57:41[SPEAKER_01]: These are good times.
- 57:42[SPEAKER_01]: These are fun times.
- 57:43[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, till next time.
- 57:45[SPEAKER_01]: Bear it out.