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The Late Debate | 11 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late General, welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Freilich and Caleb Bond coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Has Sidney Sweeney single handedly.
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  Speaker 2: Saved Western civilization from its obsession with woke? Some of
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  Speaker 2: our arguing that Hollywood's obsession with DEI is dead. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: the Tasmanian government is set to end greyhound racing, but
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  Speaker 2: is it out of concern for animal welfare or the
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  Speaker 2: minority government's welfare? And we're told self driving trucks are
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  Speaker 2: the future, but after a spectacular crush in China at
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, the future less looks less like the Jetsons
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  Speaker 2: and more like Well mad Max will show you what
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  Speaker 2: happened shortly, but first, just when you think our justice
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  Speaker 2: system can't get any more farcical, it orders an accused
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  Speaker 2: murderer out on bail to send police hourly selfies because
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  Speaker 2: nothing says public safety like a twelve photo Instagram story.
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  Speaker 2: This is what passes for law and order in New
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  Speaker 2: South Wales after the government scraped ankle bracelets when the
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  Speaker 2: private monitoring company went belly up without telling anyone. Now,
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  Speaker 2: instead of a GPS tracker, the accused must buy his
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  Speaker 2: supervising officer a brand new iPhone and been through hourly
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  Speaker 2: glamour shots from eight am to eight pm. Oh and
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  Speaker 2: the judge ordered that the man's location settings must stay on, which,
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  Speaker 2: as every teenager knows, means the phone will be tracked,
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  Speaker 2: not the person.
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  Speaker 3: Opposition police spokesman Paul Toole.
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  Speaker 2: Called the decision bs so he wasn't as polite as
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  Speaker 2: I was just then, and he's right to be furious.
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  Speaker 2: There's got to be a better way to keep the
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  Speaker 2: public safe than asking accused killers to perform duckface every
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  Speaker 2: sixty minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Freyer, Well, I mean, you're exactly right.
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  Speaker 5: And my question as well is they said here the
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  Speaker 5: accused would have to buy the policeman and iPhone so
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  Speaker 5: he could receive the selfies.
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  Speaker 4: But knowing the way our justice system is.
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  Speaker 5: Going and how left wing an activist it is, soon
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  Speaker 5: people will be saying it's a matter of equity that
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  Speaker 5: the defendants get bought an iPhone so that they can
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  Speaker 5: send the selfies, and then tax phase will be paying
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  Speaker 5: for iPhones for accused criminals to send selfies to the police.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is just so selfies tell you nothing
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  Speaker 5: about where you are. You could be on any background whatsoever.
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  Speaker 5: What does a selfie prove? And this is just an
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  Speaker 5: example of I think a labor government that wants to
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  Speaker 5: look like they are being tough on crime, but actually
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the day they're compromising everyone's safety
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  Speaker 5: by not having proper ankle monitoring in place.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the point you raise about buying mobile phones for
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  Speaker 6: alleged offenders on bail as I legitimate one, because what
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  Speaker 6: if they don't have a mobile phone or as you
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  Speaker 6: would call it, James, the mobile telephone service, you know,
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  Speaker 6: because if you're an older person who doesn't have a mobile,
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  Speaker 6: what are they going to do? Tell you to turn
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  Speaker 6: around your landline and you know, show it to the
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  Speaker 6: world and maybe we'll hear some birds squawking in the
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  Speaker 6: background to prove that you're not somewhere that you shouldn't be. So, yes,
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  Speaker 6: you could legitimately say my phone doesn't have a camera,
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  Speaker 6: I've got a dumb phone.
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  Speaker 1: What am I meant to do? If the court.
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  Speaker 6: Requires me to do this, then I expect you to
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  Speaker 6: be able to give me a telephone to do it.
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  Speaker 6: The whole thing is a joke, and I mean so
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  Speaker 6: much of the stuff we talk about on this show
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  Speaker 6: every night, I go, how.
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  Speaker 1: Does this even happen?
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  Speaker 6: How do we get to a point where courts are
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  Speaker 6: now asking people to send selfies to the police, as
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  Speaker 6: though to say, yes, officer, my head is still attached
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  Speaker 6: to my body, as though that really means anything. And
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  Speaker 6: the problem is that bail Safe, which famously didn't tell
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  Speaker 6: the Victorian government that it was going bust, so they
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  Speaker 6: just had no idea down there that anyone was not
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  Speaker 6: being monitored anymore with their ankle bracelets.
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  Speaker 1: They went bust.
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  Speaker 6: They were the main provider of these bracelets. The New
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  Speaker 6: South Wales government's been confirmed in the Daily Telegraph tonight,
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  Speaker 6: is not going to use ankle bracelets anymore as a result,
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  Speaker 6: because they banned private operators from being able to provide
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  Speaker 6: ankle bracelets in New South Wales anymore. The only circumstance
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  Speaker 6: is domestic violence offenders, because those bracelets are administered by
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  Speaker 6: the government. So if the government already has a manner
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  Speaker 6: by which it can monitor certain offenders with ankle bracelets,
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  Speaker 6: why can't it just roll that system out.
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  Speaker 1: Across the rest of the justice system.
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  Speaker 6: It does not make any sense at all, and You're
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  Speaker 6: going to have more of these cases coming up where
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  Speaker 6: courts are going to come up with all sorts of bizarre, wacky,
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  Speaker 6: creative ways to get alleged defenders on bail to report
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  Speaker 6: themselves in because you've taken away the one thing that
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  Speaker 6: we know that works to tell you where they are,
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  Speaker 6: which is an ankle brace.
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  Speaker 5: And why does one ankle bracelet company going bus? I
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  Speaker 5: mean they have to ban all private operators. That doesn't
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  Speaker 5: make any sense. So one business goes bus, We're going
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  Speaker 5: to ban an entire industry. It's always more efficient for
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  Speaker 5: private operators to provide these services in the government. So
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't the logical solution to be just look, ask for tenders,
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  Speaker 5: ask for private companies to apply for the contract and
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  Speaker 5: find a new provide I don't can't be that hard.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, there is another option which we were talking
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  Speaker 2: to Paul Murray about just before we came on air,
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  Speaker 2: and that is dangerous offenders.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get given bail. That would solve the whole problem.
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  Speaker 2: No ankle bracelet required, no iPhone required, Just lock them
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  Speaker 2: up until the court case happens, and that way everybody
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  Speaker 2: is safe and no one's inconvenience.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, but then you have the trifling issue of the
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  Speaker 6: prison beds to fill up. And we know what's going
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  Speaker 6: on down in Victoria where they've been told about their
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  Speaker 6: bail laws, or the government is saying about their bail
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  Speaker 6: laws that they will come into effect at such time
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  Speaker 6: as we have enough beds available to not have bail
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  Speaker 6: for people.
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  Speaker 1: It's just incredible, isn't it.
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  Speaker 6: Speaking of incredible, let's go up to a Queensland where
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  Speaker 6: Pauline Hanson has rightly called out something that I hadn't
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  Speaker 6: really thought about, but now that she's brought it up,
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  Speaker 6: I think she's making a really fair point. That is
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  Speaker 6: that there are organizations that get government funding to put
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  Speaker 6: in applications for Native title. The federal government funds these things,
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  Speaker 6: and so if you then have to respond to an
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  Speaker 6: application for Native title, and it's often state governments or
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  Speaker 6: particularly councils that end up having to deal with these applications,
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  Speaker 6: they have to do so under their own steam.
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  Speaker 1: They don't get government money from anywhere.
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  Speaker 6: Now. They used to have a scheme in Queensland that
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  Speaker 6: was scrapped about ten years ago that the state government
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  Speaker 6: would provide money to private operators or to councils if
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  Speaker 6: they had to deal with these applications for native title.
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  Speaker 6: But that disappeared and so now you are effectively forced
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  Speaker 6: to spend your own money to fight a court case
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  Speaker 6: that is in part being funded by the federal government.
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  Speaker 6: So Paul Enhanson says to the Queensland government, she's written
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  Speaker 6: a letter to them. We need to do something about
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  Speaker 6: this status, she said in the letter, given the Queensland
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  Speaker 6: Government is often liable for the compensation awarded to successive
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  Speaker 6: successful sorry native title claimants, I'm seeking your government support
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  Speaker 6: to provide a native title respondent scheme for Queensland councils
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  Speaker 6: and opposing entities native title claims impacting the Livingston Shire
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  Speaker 6: and Redland City Councils, both of which are required to
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  Speaker 6: spend rate payers money to defend against objectionable claims. And
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  Speaker 6: there's so many cases we know going through at the
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  Speaker 6: moment for native title. One of them is on Great
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  Speaker 6: Keppel Island in Queensland, which has sort of been the
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  Speaker 6: nexus for her coming out and saying this.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a good point. I mean, why should one.
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  Speaker 6: Side of the argument be able to get hold of
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  Speaker 6: public money if the other side can't. If the government's
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  Speaker 6: willing to tip in money for one, they should be
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  Speaker 6: willing to tip in money for the other, unless, of course,
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  Speaker 6: their position is that the whole country ought to be
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  Speaker 6: native title.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the current situation is unfair and immoral. It's unfair because,
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  Speaker 2: as you said, if you're an indigenous group, you are
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  Speaker 2: funded by the government to make your claim, but if
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  Speaker 2: you're defending the claim a council or you're a farmer,
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  Speaker 2: you don't get any funds to try and defend the claim.
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  Speaker 2: Redland City Council have currently got three and a half
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  Speaker 2: thousand properties that they either own or manage on behalf
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  Speaker 2: of rate payers currently under native title claims. So you
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  Speaker 2: can imagine the bill that they're going to have to fork,
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  Speaker 2: but they get no government assistance whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: That's unfair.
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  Speaker 2: But second, it's immoral because you're asking rate payers to
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  Speaker 2: fund indigenous groups to make claims against the rate payer. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's not just unfair, that's immoral. The only people that
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  Speaker 2: win out of this, and the only people that like
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  Speaker 2: the current laws are lawyers, and I would say they
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  Speaker 2: actually don't mind Pauline Hanson's suggestion either, because they will
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  Speaker 2: only benefit more.
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  Speaker 3: The solution here is to get rid of native title completely.
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  Speaker 2: Where all Australians, the land belongs to all of us,
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  Speaker 2: get rid of it.
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  Speaker 6: You can't do that because it was decided by the
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  Speaker 6: High Court.
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  Speaker 2: You can always go back and have the High Court
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  Speaker 2: change the decision.
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  Speaker 5: But the underlying point of the government funding groups and
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  Speaker 5: bodies that are fundamentally opposed to Australia's unity and existence
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  Speaker 5: as a country, that is the absurdity of this. And
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  Speaker 5: it's not limited to native title claims. The government also
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  Speaker 5: gives millions of dollars every year to the Environmental Defenders Office,
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  Speaker 5: which is another green activist lawfare group. They wage lawfare
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  Speaker 5: against big mining projects, productive economic opportunities for the country.
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  Speaker 5: Our own government is funding people to fight against our
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  Speaker 5: own country's development and that has.
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  Speaker 4: Got to stop.
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  Speaker 6: And it's a great Ponzi scheme as well. Because you
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  Speaker 6: have a successful native title claim and then you know,
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  Speaker 6: one of these Aboriginal land councils sort of takes charge
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  Speaker 6: of the area and then once they do that, they
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  Speaker 6: have the rights to charge all sorts of people and
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  Speaker 6: service providers and whatever for things that are done on
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  Speaker 6: that land. For instance, if power lines or whatever's going
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  Speaker 6: to go through there. You know, they've got to pay
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  Speaker 6: the Aboriginal Land Council to provide advice and all this
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  Speaker 6: sort of business. So they get money out of that
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  Speaker 6: having been given native title, which they then go and
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  Speaker 6: use to run other court cases, just like you've seen
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  Speaker 6: in South Australia where the Bangala people, a local Aboriginal
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  Speaker 6: corporation went up against a nuclear waste stump at Kimba
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  Speaker 6: and were successful on a legal technicality. But they have
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  Speaker 6: the right to earn that money because they're given native title.
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  Speaker 6: So you create the publicly funded system that allows them
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  Speaker 6: to make the claim, and then once the claim is successful,
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  Speaker 6: they then have the right to make even more money,
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  Speaker 6: which they then go and spend.
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  Speaker 1: Tying us up in the court. Once again. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: great work if you can get it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, another thing that is definitely a Ponzi scheme is
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  Speaker 5: what Albanezi has given to Hamas today. Who would have
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  Speaker 5: thought less than two years after the worst massacre of
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  Speaker 5: Jewish people since the Holocaust, our government would be recognizing
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  Speaker 5: a state of Palestine. Benjamin Atnyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel,
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  Speaker 5: rightfully said this is shameful and personally I cannot believe
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  Speaker 5: a government has done.
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  Speaker 7: This, those will say that as well as a right
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  Speaker 7: to defend itself, or also saying, but don't exercise outright
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  Speaker 7: when we do what any country would do faced with
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  Speaker 7: this genocidal terrorist organization that has performed the worst attack
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  Speaker 7: on Jews since the Holocaust. I think we're actually applying
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  Speaker 7: force judiciously and they know it. They know what they
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  Speaker 7: would do if right next to Melbourne or right next
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  Speaker 7: to Sydney you had this horrific attacks. I think you
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  Speaker 7: would do it at least what we're doing, probably maybe
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  Speaker 7: not as efficiently and as as precisely as we're doing it.
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  Speaker 5: And he is exactly spot on with that. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: there are so many issues with this proposal. One, there
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  Speaker 5: has never been a self governed Palestinian state. To the
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  Speaker 5: idea that this would be a democracy is ludicrous. The
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  Speaker 5: Palestinian Authority, who Albanezi is looking to, is the Messiah
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  Speaker 5: of the Palestinians. Mah Mudabas, the president of the Palestinian Authority,
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  Speaker 5: is in the twentieth year of a four year term.
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  Speaker 5: He is refusing to hold elections. Why because they know
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  Speaker 5: that if they held elections in the West Bank, her
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  Speaker 5: Maas would win, So that brings you to the other problem.
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  Speaker 2: If he's promised to change Frayer, he's assured Anthi Albanzi
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be different this time.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and you know, eighty years of intractable conflict, it
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  Speaker 5: is all going to be solved because they've given assurances
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  Speaker 5: to Albanesi. I mean, it is so so, so absurd.
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  Speaker 5: And what's going to happen when the people of Palestine
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  Speaker 5: elect Harmas or another extremist group, And that is the
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  Speaker 5: fundamental problem. Alban Easy with his sort of internationalist liberal mindset,
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  Speaker 5: he views everyone as fundamentally like us, wanting peace, wanting democracy,
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  Speaker 5: wanting Western liberal values.
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  Speaker 4: But that is just not the case.
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  Speaker 5: You're dealing with a radicalized population, the majority of whom
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  Speaker 5: support Hermas. Never forget, har Maas was democratically elected then
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  Speaker 5: murdered all of their political opponents. So how you think
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  Speaker 5: it's going to be different this time, I truly do
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  Speaker 5: not understand, is.
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  Speaker 3: The other question I've got.
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  Speaker 2: It was just two weeks ago that Anthony alban He
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  Speaker 2: went on Insiders on the ABC and he said, look,
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  Speaker 2: it's a matter of when, not if, but it's not imminent.
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  Speaker 2: It's not imminent that we will recognize a Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 3: That was a fortnight ago.
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  Speaker 2: So at the Albanezi's definition of imminent I think needs
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  Speaker 2: to be examined. And as you said, you know Hamas
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  Speaker 2: will play no role in a future Palatinian state.
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  Speaker 3: How do they guarantee that?
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  Speaker 2: How do they know that the new political party, which
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  Speaker 2: will be called We Are Not Hamas, is not actually
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  Speaker 2: just rebranded.
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  Speaker 5: Israel has been trying to wipe out Hamas for twenty years.
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  Speaker 5: They've been trying to wipe out Palestinian extremism since the
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  Speaker 5: founding of the State of Israel. The idea that somehow,
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  Speaker 5: now because we've recognized a Palestinian state, all of the
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  Speaker 5: extremist elements within the pro Palestine movement are suddenly going
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  Speaker 5: to evaporate is ludicrous thinking.
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  Speaker 2: So tonight our government has rewarded Hamas. They have destroyed
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  Speaker 2: our relationship with Israel. They've damaged even further our relationship.
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  Speaker 3: With the United States.
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  Speaker 2: They've sent a dangerous message to the world that terrorism
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  Speaker 2: will be rewarded. They've emboldened Israel's enemies. Have you noticed
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  Speaker 2: that here in Australia, news that the government will recognize
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  Speaker 2: Palestine has been greeted by the left with calls for
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  Speaker 2: sanctions against Israel.
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  Speaker 3: So they're just emboldened. And for what.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is the fundamental issue with it, isn't it.
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  Speaker 6: Because you put the cart before the horse and say,
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  Speaker 6: here's the objective we want to achieve. We're going to
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  Speaker 6: give you the reward for it before you've achieved the objective. Now,
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  Speaker 6: anyone who's owned an animal, anyone who's had a child,
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  Speaker 6: knows that you don't get effective results by giving the
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  Speaker 6: reward before achieving the objective. You say to a kid,
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  Speaker 6: here's a chocolate, go and clean up your bedroom, the
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  Speaker 6: kid will take the chocolate bug her off into the
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  Speaker 6: backyard and forget about his bedroom. If you say I'll
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  Speaker 6: give you the chocolate after you clean up your bedroom,
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  Speaker 6: it may be a different story. And so we have
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  Speaker 6: this fanciful idea that you're going to say, okay, if
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  Speaker 6: we recognize you as a state, please go and clean
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  Speaker 6: yourself up now, and all will be well.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't work like that.
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  Speaker 6: And the thing that I don't understand is that regardless
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  Speaker 6: of where you stand on this war, even if you've
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  Speaker 6: been out there shouting free Palistine and all this sort
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  Speaker 6: of business, and you know there were even protests in
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  Speaker 6: Tel Aviv over the weekend, people in Israel, including families
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  Speaker 6: with hostages currently in Gaza, saying we don't want this
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  Speaker 6: war to continue into Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: You know they're talking now about occupying the place, right,
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  Speaker 1: So regardless of what your view is on.
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  Speaker 6: This war, surely everyone should be able to say that
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  Speaker 6: without achieving the objectives of removing Hamas and having some
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  Speaker 6: kind of proper democracy there, which is probably never going
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  Speaker 6: to happen, you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get statehood.
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  Speaker 6: Like this shouldn't be an issue of I'm a supporter
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  Speaker 6: of Palestine or I'm a supporter of Israel, therefore I
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  Speaker 6: think that they should be given statehood or not. You
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  Speaker 6: don't deserve statehood when you are run by a terrorist organizedzation.
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  Speaker 6: And everyone who's ever opined on this war should be
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  Speaker 6: able to see that.
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  Speaker 5: And her Mass is more popular with the Palestinian people
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  Speaker 5: than the Palestinian authority.
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  Speaker 4: That is what Albaneze has to get through his head.
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  Speaker 5: The Palestine authority are not liked, more people support her Mass.
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  Speaker 5: What this also does is it relieves pressure from her Mass,
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  Speaker 5: which will hold up the negotiations that the US is leading.
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  Speaker 5: They were making progress in moving towards a ceasefire in
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  Speaker 5: getting the hostages home.
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  Speaker 4: But this thwarts that because it removes the pressure from
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  Speaker 4: her Maas.
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  Speaker 5: And the other flaw in Albanesi's thinking is he seems
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  Speaker 5: to think that if you recognize a Palestinian state, you're
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  Speaker 5: going to make harmas redundant. What he doesn't realize is
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  Speaker 5: that every time we've moved towards peace, her mass has
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  Speaker 5: become more violent or whatever form Palestinian extremism takes. Nineteen
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  Speaker 5: forty eight UN Partition Plan Israel was recognized. What did
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  Speaker 5: everyone do the next day? Well, the Arabs declared war
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  Speaker 5: on Israel.
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  Speaker 4: The Oslo Peace.
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  Speaker 5: Accords happened after that, the second into Fata, the Abraham Accords.
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  Speaker 4: What happened after that?
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: October seven recognition of a Palestinian Say, what will happen
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: after that? I don't even want to contemplate what will
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: happen next, but I can tell you it won't be peace.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: The other thing I was thinking is we're watching vision
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: there of protests in Israel, and people say, see there's
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: protests in Israel. They don't want this either, Oh, I think, yeah,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: and there's protests. Oh no, there's no protests in the
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: West Bank or in Gaza, because you're not allowed to
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: express your opinion.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: It might be different. We are signing in people.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: Some brave people have protested in Gaza. God knows what
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: has become of them. And I mean dad, His dad
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: is proper bravery to be able to protest in Gaza
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: against Hamas because you know you're going to have a
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: target put on your back for den.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Indeed, let's go to the UK, where police are not
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: that bothered protecting retailers from thieves, but very eager to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: protect thieves from hurty words. Rob Davies runs a vintage
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: clothing shop in the North of Wales and he was
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: robbed five times in a week and just got jack
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: of people shoplifting in his store.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: So he put up a sign that read and I'll
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: quote it for you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: In fact, we'll have an image of it due to
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: scumbags shoplifting, please ask for assistance to open cabinets.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Well, someone complained to police, didn't they know?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: You'd think police would just reject such a frivolous complaint.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Who cares about a shopkeeper referring to thieves as scumbags?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner referred to conservatives
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: as scum just a few years ago. But no, no, no,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the British bobbies, they are on the beat, and they
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: quickly visited Rob Davy's vintage clothing store and told him
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: to remove the sign because well, some people, namely thieves,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: might be offended by being referred to as scumbags. Personally,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I think Rob Davey should have put up a new
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: sign that said, due to scumbag police not arresting thieves,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: please ask for assistance to open the cabinet.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Well, this is precisely what started all of this in
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: the first place. And the great irony of this story
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: is that he's had been burgled a number of times
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: and on one occasion he had the bloke there, he
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: calls the coppers. The coppers come around, find the bloke,
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: get the shirt back that he's stolen. They handed the
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: shirt back to mister Davies and let this criminal go
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: on his way. So he's had enough of that. He's
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: put the locks on the cabinets and said, because of
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: the scum bags, you got to come and ask me
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: if you want to have a look at the clothes.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: And then the coppers get a complaint about like the
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: biggest non crime of all time, and they've actually taken
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: the time to go around and tell him that he
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: has to take it down. He said, mister Davies, that
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: is you couldn't make it up when I asked you
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: it could offend. I was told a member of the
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: public had reported the sign to them. I just wonder
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: if that person was a shoplifter who was offended as
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: it was detrimental to their work. If police had the
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: time to go and tell a guy who's had, you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: unsatisfactory interactions with the police about robbery, that the one
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: thing he needs to do is take a sign that's
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: his scum bag out of his window.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: You can understand why you put it there in the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: first place.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Well, the police now are taking more action against offensive
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: language than actual criminal offenses. But that does seem to
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: sum up a lot of what we've seen from the
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: UK justice system recently. It's all about these non violent
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: hate incidences. It's all about policing language. But at the
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: end of the day, your job as police is to
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: ensure the safety of citizens.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: That's it. Stop policing language.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Stop policing language in a shop owned by someone that
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: is his property, his business. If it was so detrimental
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: to his public brand and image, wouldn't he just take
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: down the sign?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I wonder if police were really motivated to get
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: him to take down the sign, because the sign reminds
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: everyone who enters that store that there's a major shoplifting
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: problem in the UK twenty million.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Reports of shoplifting. That's reports last year, and.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: You can debate what percentage of shoplifting is actually reported,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: costing the economy two point two billion dollars. So I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: think police just don't like folk being reminded that essentially
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: shoplifting is not being policed. And it's far easier, as
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: it turns out, to get a law abiding citizen to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: take down a sign than to catch the blighters who
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: are making off with people's produce.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I can't wait, James, for you to receive an angry
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: letter from the North Wales Police complaining that you've called
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: them scum bags, because that is.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Hurtful and insulting and how dare you do it?
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: While we're talking about robbery, the greyhound industry greyhound racing
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: down in Tasmania has been robbed by the state government. Now,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: of course you'll know that Jeremy Rockliffe has been returned
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: as Premier, though without a majority, so he needs to
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: shore up his votes in the Parliament because he's only
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: got fourteen seats he needs eighteen for majority. When they
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: rock up in Parliament in a couple of weeks, Labor
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: is going to put up another motion of no confidence
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: and hope that they can get supply to then form government.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: So outcomes mister Rockcliffe over the weekend with a little
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: sweetener for the Greens and some of the other cross benches,
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: which is, well, we're just going to throw greyhound racing
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: under the bus.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Take a look.
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: We need to draw a line in the sand when
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: it comes to the greyhound racing industry in Tasmania. For
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: many years now and increasingly so, there's been concerns around
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: animal welfare and we're seeing an industry that is at
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: the crossroads in decline and does not meet community expectations anymore.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: What an absolute load of garbage. I'll tell you who's
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: at a crossroads. It's Jeremy Rockcliffe and he wants to
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: make sure he can remain premier. He couldn't give two
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: hoots about the good people who work in racing or
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: greyhound racing in Tasmania. He only gives a hoot about himself. Now,
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: the way he's doing this, it's not an actual ban,
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: it's an effective ban. What he is doing is removing
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: the government funding that goes through to greyhound racing. Now,
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: state governments, councils all fund to some degree.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Basically every sport.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: In this particularly grassroots sport, is underpinned by significant funding
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: from state and federal and local government because we understand
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: that sport is generally a good thing for the people
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: of Australia, so they tip in the money for the
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: social dividend that it returns.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: But mister Rockcliffe sniffs.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: The wind and realizes that there are animal activists out there,
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: including in the Parliament, that he can just throw greyhound
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: racing under the bus and no one's going to give
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: a toss.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you mate, people do give a toss.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Remember the last premier who decided he would get rid
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: of greyhound racing.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: His name is Mike Baird.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: You know how much longer he lasted as premier after that,
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: about one hundred days. It did him in when he
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: tried to get rid of greyhound racing. And I hope
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: he gets exactly the same treatment. And I have to
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: say the CEO of greyhound Racing New South Wales, Steve Griffin,
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: came out today strongly great statement saying as a sport,
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: why do we have to get dragged into these things
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: and get treated like second class citizens?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It's just a joke.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure when politicians are going to learn that
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: we are just not going to put up with this stuff.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: The majority of Australians believe in a fair go. Sports
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: like ours have been working hard and doing really well
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: over the last ten years to improve welfare and improve
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: the sport, and time and time again we get kicked
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: by these politicians who want to treat us like our
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: political football and we're just over it. And to that
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: I say here here, greyhound racing is full of proper
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: citizen salt of the earth, people who love their animals.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: And I know because I'm involved in the industry. You know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Rockliffe has just chosen an easy target here. So I'll
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: save some money there, maybe I'll win some votes in
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: the Parliament staff people who are worried about their jobs.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know about greyhound racing, but I do know
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that right before the election which was just a couple
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago on the Liberal Party website, Jeremy Rockcliffe
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: was promising to quote unquote strengthen the racing industry.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: So just a couple of weeks ago it was all good.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: He was all for sustainability and for good funding for
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the racing industry in his state.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden he's against it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And what's interesting, as you point out, Caleb, the current
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: funding arrangement ends in twenty twenty nine, so it's got
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: four years to run. But all of a sudden today
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: it's very important that he makes an announcement and draws
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: a line in the sands.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Is that worried about animal welfare?
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: He's so worried about animal welfare that he says for
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: all year years.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just pathetic, entirely political. And the thing,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of course is.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: You know they came for jumps racing and were largely
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: successful in getting rid of that. And by the way,
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: it was at col Rand Race Club yesterday with the
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Great Western Steeple Chase, a great job as always, Victoria's
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: the only place I've still had it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: But they're largely successful with that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Now they're coming for Greyhound racing, they've had a bit
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: of success. I mean, this will be like a red
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: rag to a bull to use an animal welfare thing here,
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: but you.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Know they will look at this and they'll start coming
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: for the rest of racing too. You say we'll sacrifice
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: greyhound racing. It ain't going to end there.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But I totally understand the argument we shouldn't be
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: bad greyhound racing. But at the same time, the greyhound
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: racing industry in Tasmania is receiving over seven million dollars
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: a year in taxpayer funds. That is more than many
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: other grassroots sports receive. There was a report done, Admittedly
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: it was sponsored by anti greyhound racing groups.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: So I will preface that, but they.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Did find that the economic returns were not great. For
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: every million dollars of funding that the sport was given,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: they were only generating eighty two jobs. And so I mean,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: if a sport is so great, if an industry is
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: so wonderful and people love it so much, then it
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: should be self sustaining. The idea that we should just
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: be handing out millions of dollars to sports because they
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: just exist and people just like them, Well, no, we
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: can't do that for everything. I want my local pickleball
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: team to get seven million dollars for our competition, but
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: we don't get.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: That, and so greyhound racing shouldn't either.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm not anti greyhound racing, but I do
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: think you have to draw the line somewhere. Is this
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: a priority that delivers benefit for most Tasmanians?
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Probably not. Should they be self sufficient as a business, Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: There's basically no sport that's truly self sufficient. I mean,
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: you know, the AFL and the NRL and whatever are
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: sure they're they're big operations, but they're underpinned largely by
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: the fact that they are tax free. So if you
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: levied them like any other business, they would be in.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: A world of trouble.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: The existence of sport in this country is underpinned by
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: government funding or the lack of taxation to allow them
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: to flourish, because we say.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: That it's a good thing for sport to exist.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: If you said you've got to stand on your own
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: two feet, there'd be basically no sport.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Couldn't you just do the same thing for greyhound racing?
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: Then say you're tax example, we're not going to give
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: you seven million.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Dollars a year.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Well, well, the governing bodies are governed by the actual government,
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: so it's a different kettle of fish. But you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: everyone is on the take in sport in some way
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: or another.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: The thing you said free, which I think will resonate
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: for a lot of people watching tonight, is governments do
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: have to draw a line somewhere, and I think they
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: should draw the line at pickleball.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: For pickaball, I'll get you guys.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Out for pickleball. By the way, it's kind.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Of like tennis for people.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: It's tennis for people who can't play tennis. Let's be honest.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very, very fun though, but something that is
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: definitely dead, unlike pickleball, which is a massive and growing.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Spot, deserving ofment funding.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Maybe deserving of government's funny if greyhound racing is well,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: something that is definitely.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Not is woke Hollywood.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Even the New York Times has now come to terms
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: with the fact that Hollywood's progressive snowflake era is over. Instead,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: shows these days are hot, horny and white.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, part of me thinks.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: This was all canalyzed by Sydney Sweeney's ad And in
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: this article they say a couple of years ago that
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: ad with the amount of backlash it received for simply
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: having a woman with blonde hair and blue eyes talking
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: about how great her jeans were, that would have had
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: serious ramifications for Sydney C.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Sweeney's career.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: She would have been forced to apologize make some token
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: donation to an anti racist group. But today nothing's happened.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: In fact, American Eagle stocks have gone up. Sidney Sweeney
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: has won more fans. People are happy to see the
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: woke cult that's been controlling Hollywood finally lose its grip
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: on the industry. So if even The New York Times
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: is finally admitting that woke Hollywood is over, have we
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: turned the point in the culture war?
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think though.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I think this is a premature victory lap for a
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: couple of reasons. Number One, you can't get mad at
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney, so I think she's just an exception to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the rule. Number two, the fural about the Sydney Sweeney
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: had is so ridiculous that it no doubt damages the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: whole woke movement, which eventually collapses in on its own contradictions. Right,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: But the contradictions in this one and it's based on
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the misunderstanding or deliberate and wilful misinterpretation of a pun
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: is so ludicrous as to be stupid enough that everybody
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: gets that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: But having said I think it's.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Premature to to declare woke defeated. I think we should
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: keep on saying that it is because woke people, by definition,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: are highly suggestible. In fact, woke survives by telling everybody
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: everyone believes this. If you don't believe this, you're the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: only one who doesn't believe it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: We all know trans women are women.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And if we repeat it often enough, remember the United
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Nations us to put out tweets trans women are women,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: trans women are women, transomen That's how the left works.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Woke becomes fashionable by its suggestion. So I think if
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the right just continually suggest that woke is finished, woke
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: is over, woke is done, that people who normally gravitate
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: towards woke, not wanting to be the odd ones out,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: will agree, oh, woke is not fashionable or call anymore.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: I do think you're right that we shouldn't get too
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: cocky about it. There has been a major culture shift,
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: particularly in the United States, and that sort of feeds
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: through to everywhere else because of the reelection of Donald Trump,
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: And so there is a danger. I suppose that for
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: so long as Donald Trump is there, everything is going
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: all right. But in three odd years time, when Donald
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Trump is not there anymore, it can very quickly turn
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: like that back to what it was. But the one
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: thing we have in our advantage, apart from the fact
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: that Trump has managed to get Mark Zuckerberg and all
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: these people to come and kiss the ring, is that
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: you just got to look at where people have spent
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: their money. And Hollywood has tried really hard to push
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: the work garbage down people's throats, and much like you
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: saying that if we keep declaring work is dead, they
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: just sort of kept hoping that if they kept making
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: work movies, eventually people had accept them and go, well,
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: bloody hell, if I want to go to the cinema,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: it's all I'm going to see. But people didn't go
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: and spend their money watching work movies.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I mean things like the snow White.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: They came out with, where snow White wasn't white bizarre.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: You know, it was an absolute flop at the box office.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So people have voted.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: With their dollars and their feet and said, we don't
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: actually want this content anymore. So if mos like Disney
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: and everyone else want to make money, they've kind of
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: got to produce what their audiences want to watch.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I want to believe that, but I was reading to
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: mel Gibson's Got the sequel to Passion of the Christ
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: me Christ the Resurrection. I think it's called comes out
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: next year or the year after. But remember it was
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: back in two thousand and four and mel Gibson funded
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: that movie himself, spent thirty million dollars on it made
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: six hundred and ten million dollars worldwide.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: It was a huge financial success.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: You'd think, according to your argument, Hollywood studios would suddenly say, well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: there's a market there, let's start producing conservative films. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: they didn't. And so I'm not sure about the commercial argument.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It makes sense, but since when have woke all the
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: people who subscribed to ever done things according to logic
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: or rational things.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: That's right, and the problem is the industry is still
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: full of so many idea logues who actually see their
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: role as an activist role. They want to use this
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: medium of film to push a political agenda. And that's
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: one of the other reasons I do think woke is dead.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: It's because it's just boring. Every single movie line is
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: the same. Oh, character wakes up, character rebels against societal norms,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: characters are rule breaker, character finds in a self. Character
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: is black, lesbian, bisexual, blah blah blah, like that is.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Every single Hollywood movie.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: And eventually characters breaking rules and being rebels and finding
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: true in a self gets boring and people just don't
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: want to be bored anymore, and they don't want to
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: go to the movies and feel like they're getting a
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: political lecture every time they do.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: Counterpoint though, James Clint Eastwood, Clint Eastwood just keeps making
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: movie point and they just keep selling.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: So there is a market for it if someone's willing to.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good point, very good point.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Well, let's want to talk about self driving vehicles for
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: a moment, because we're told.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: That they are the future.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: In fact, the Bureau of Infrastructure and Transport Research says
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: that by twenty thirty, two point six percent of Australian
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: vehicles will be self driving, and by twenty forty six
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: half the vehicles on Australian roads will be self driving vehicles.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: But I'm not so sure the future looks like the Jetsons,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: because according to what happened in China just a few
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: days ago, it looks.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: More like Mad Max.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Going to show you vision of a transport delivery truck
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: fully self automated, but it gets a scooter stuck under
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: its wheels and you'd think it would stop, But no, no, no,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: this self driving truck just keeps trucking on.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: One of many self driving vans in China that are
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: making daily deliveries.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: But will we be seeing anything like this in Australia.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Probably not.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Check out this next video here that shows one of
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: those vans dragging a scooter across the road.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So it's safe to say there still needs to be.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of safety development before they come here.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: You would think the truck would realize that there's a
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: scooter beneath the wheel, and not only that, but the
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: wheel under which the scooter was trapped was not actually
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: even moving, and yet the truck just kept going. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: should point out the truck did not hit the scooter.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: The scooter was involved in a prior accident and the
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: truck maneuvered to avoid it but ended up getting the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: debris from that accident. I either scooter stuck under the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: wheel doesn't fill you with confidence though, Okay, Leber, imagine
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: if it was someone's wheelchair, or it was the scooter
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: rider or a pram or what have you. I mean,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: for the truck to just keep on going is pretty disturbingle.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: And this is going to become the big issue with
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: it because of course right now, if I drive out
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: of here tonight and on my way home I clean
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: up some old lady, well, I'm going to be in
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: court for hitting someone and potentially killing them. If I
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: drive away from that scene, I'll be up in court
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: for hit and run, and I'll be spending a lot
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: of time in the clink. What happens when an automated
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: truck bawls over some old lady? Do you charge the
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: owner of the company? Do you charge the bloke who
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: was doing the electronics on it? I mean, someone ultimately
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: has to be responsible for the actions of these things,
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: and that clearly demonstrates the technology that we have it
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: as it is at the moment.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: You know, if that was.
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: A scooter that had a person on it, and that
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: thing's just trundling along with this person hanging on for
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: dear life, how do you deal with.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: That after Yeah, but at the same time, how many
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: people die from falling asleep at the wheel?
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Driving under the influence?
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: Human error is a massive cause of fatalities on the road.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: If you can eliminate human error, I think you'll actually
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: eliminate a lot of fatalities on the road. So, if anything,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: automated driving might actually be safer, except in these rare
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: freak accidents.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: They are predicting that it will eliminate so many accidents,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: no question about it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: But there's a long way to go.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Road rules, the question of liability in insurance, who is
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the driver in an automated situation? Cybersecurity data, There's a
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: lot of water to go under the bridge, so to speak.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Before we get this is a common thing on our roads.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I've heard some good excuses in my life. But wait
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: until you hear as being reported in the papers. To
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: borrow the excuse one guy caught with drugs. Users and
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: experts are tipping that long awaited interest rate four will
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: happen tomorrow. We'll talk about all of that in just
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: a moment. Welcome back to the program. Let's take a
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: look at what the papers are reporting tomorrow, starting with
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the Australian Kalb.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: Indeed, it is China paid two hundred k to alleged spa.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: A woman accused of spaing on a Canberra Buddhist association
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: was paid more than two hundred thousand dollars by the
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: Chinese government and was taking instructions from a mysterious security
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: official over encrypted messaging platform we Chat. Federal police officers
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: will allege officers sorry. Executing a search warrant on the
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: woman's home last month located hundreds of thousands of dollars
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: worth of luxury goods, according to fresh court documents, including
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: a Rolex watch receipt and large boxes of hay and
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: handbags that were too numerous to practicably count. Police also
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: found a receipt for a mystery item costing four hundred
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: thousand dollars. I mean, this case will continue to heat up.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Of course, she's accused of spying on this Buddhist mob.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: And you know, we can't say too much about it
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: at the moment because it is going through the courts.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: But I suspect there'll be a lot of.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: People in Canberra keeping a very close eye on what
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: comes out of this, because it may or may not
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: give us a good window into what's going on in
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: this country when it comes to espionage.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: The other thing that the Australian are reporting tomorrow is
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: that police have identified other individuals who've been given similar
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: tasks by the CCP, So this may well not be
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the first prosecution arising from what they've discovered, and that's what.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: We need to know here, and hopefully the police will
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: be investigating. If any espionage rings do exist, they're probably
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: going to be focused around embassies or key individuals, so
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: if you can start to crack into some of them,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: hopefully the whole web starts to fallover.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: Indeed, now the story on the front of the Yours
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: Tomorrow Future Fund KOI on costs. Future Fund chiefs, including
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: Chairman Greg Comb, spent about one hundred and eighty thousand
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: dollars on dozens of domestic and international flights and hotels
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: in just one year, but the publicly owned investment giant
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: is refusing to reveal the travel bill for the rest
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: of its three hundred plus staff and executives. The Future
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: Fund released the expenses for the former acting chairman the
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: current chairman six directors and its chief executive officer in
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: response to a freedom of information request from The Australian
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: but blocked the release of travel costs for its staff,
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: including the other eight members of its executive team in
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty four twenty five.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: What are they doing all this travel for?
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: I thought we lived now in the world of Skype
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: and teams and all this sort of business and have
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: to go into state for meetings anymore. They've got no
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: reason to spend this money today.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: And of course typically these are the mob who are
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: always worried about climate change and emissions and ethical investment,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: and it's pretty obvious for they're not staying at the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: IBS either.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Well, I think anytime a bureaucrats's three hundred billion dollars
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: worth of taxpayer money, which is the amount they're managing
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: in the Future Fund, they see business class trips and
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: a lot of nice perks to the job. In the
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: career mail tomorrow, of course, the big news is the
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: recognition of the state of Palestine, so the headline is
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: two faced solution. But another interesting headline is Bali drugs personal.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: A Queensland man facing death by firing squad may be
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: saved by a diagnosis that he has a cocaine use disorder.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: It can be revealed.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: So also say Lamar Aaron Archie from Pans may receive
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: a custodial sentence if found guilty of smuggling one point
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: seven kilos of cocaine into Bali for personal use. Archie
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: was arrested on May twenty second after police seized cocaine
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: hidden in chocolate wrappers one.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Point seven kilos. It's a lot of personal use.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: He's off for a good holiday in Bali.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And that's the same lawyer who's advised him to play
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: as a cocaine euse disorder is apparently representing gang members
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: in Victoria who've got Masheti euse disorders.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: He sounds like the sort of lawyer you'd want to
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: have on board if you're facing one of these cases.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: You know, good luck to him.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, you've got to be pretty bloody stupid to
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: try and smuggle nearly two kilograms of any drag into Bali,
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: don't you.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're facing death by firing squad, you're
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: going to try any and every argument at your.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Disposal to get out of that one. So if this
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: helps him, good luck.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of tomorrow's Herald's Son
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: should note the main story there a win for Hamas
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: is how the Herald's Son are reporting the Albanizi government's
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: decision to recognize a state of Israel state of Palestine.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: But the one we're to.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Do that, James, what are you talking about?
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean the irony there is that the Albanizi
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: government probably wouldn't recognize the state of Israel.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Rate cut locked in, reads the headline on the sidebar.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: After being caught off guard by a soul rushing hold
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: on interest rates last month, Australian economists have overwhelmingly tipped
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank of Australia will cut the cash rate
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: on Tuesday. Of course, the same economists overwhelmingly tipped that
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank would cut rates the last time the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Reserve Bank met, so we'll see how they go this time.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank, of course, at their last meeting said
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: they needed more information on inflation. That information has now
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: come in. Inflation is better than expected, so they're probably right.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Rates will come down.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: What is a quarter of a percent I think they're predicting.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it'd be hard to see anything else happening. I mean,
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: you know, when the economists this in lockstep about the results,
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: you're pretty sure it's going to happen. And on the
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: basis of the numbers that they've waited for, it'd be
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: hard to see how they would argue against it tomorrow,
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: and the government would certainly be apoplectic. I suspect if
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: there was not a rate cut tomorrow, not that the
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: government can do anything about it, but they're certainly counting
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: on it as well. Let's move on to the front
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: of the Canbra Times tomorrow. While we're talking about saving money,
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: it turns out over in Canberra people have been robbed
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: of their money. It's very strange story. Call for refunds
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: over toll fiasco. The big steel Canberns are coming forward
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: with complaints about increaged billing on Sydney roads after The
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: Canberra Times reveal technical flaws and duplicated number plates. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: mean motorists were being wrongly told. Complainants including Drew Kaiburz,
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: whose Subaru Outback gathered two hundred nineteen dollars in charges
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: after being mistaken for a Suzuki with the same but
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: new South Wales number plates. Act Transport Minister Chris Steele
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: is demanding urgent refunds, while courage On independent Thomas Emerson.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Called it a fiasco. How good's that?
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: So you've got the toll operators in Sydney just you know, going, ah,
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: well that's a number plate that exists in New South Wales.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: But there's also one in and in Canberra as well.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: So we'll just send the toll down the road to
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: them and say, yeah, go, you been driving on our road?
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Do you need to pay? What a great scheme?
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically they were saying up close enough yesday, just
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: paying people.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Tolls are annoying at the best of times, and in
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Sydney we have so many tolls. If you just want
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: to get around the city, especially during peak hour, the
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: traffic is incredible, you almost have to use toll roads.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: But yeah, getting that bill when it wasn't even your
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: car work's lessons.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: It's only people from the ACT that are dumb enough
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: to drive on Sydney roads these days, exactly mist of
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: us know we can't afford it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: In the Gold Coast bulletin Tomorrow, here's to Roy Beener,
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: counselors are expected to greenlight renaming a gold Coast Sports
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: Ground Andrew Simon's Oval in the Cricket Greats Memory. The
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: push to rename Robina's Cheltenham Park Oval stems from Simons,
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: known as Roy, playing there in junior's counselor Dan Duran said,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: it means a young boy or girl coming to play
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: can believe you can go from a junior cricket club
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: in Roybina to representing your country.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Really nice.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Andrew Simon's was a great cricket providing him so much entertainment.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Yep, and sorry, did I say his name wrong again? No, No,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I said it wrong.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I was just just smiling along its stories about Andrew Simon.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: He was just such a great cricketer and so good
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: to watch and brought so many people to the game. Again,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: people that otherwise would not have watched. But when he
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: came on, it didn't matter what you were doing, it
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: didn't matter how disinterested you were in cricket, you watched
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: because he was such an entertainment.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: And he was such a knock about. Lad to him.
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: And remember all the times he was getting trouble because
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: he wasn't turning up to training because he was out
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: fishing instead.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Because that's what he preferred to do.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: And of course I think everyone's favorite Andrew Simon's moment
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: isn't when the streaker came out on the field and
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: he just gave him a lack and not the streaker
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: over and everyone was like, jeez, I wish I could
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: do something like that. And that was a moment if
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: even if you weren't a great follower of cricket, you
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: just look at that and go, yep, that's exactly the
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: sort of bloke I want representing Australia, because our Australian.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Is that absolutely well, we're going to go to a
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: break when we'd come back. The most dangerous part of
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: driving a race car is not driving, and it's winning.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Will show you what happens to one unfortunate winner. And
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: the Left have provided an alternative to Sidney Sweeney, and
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna love her. That's coming up in
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: just a moment. All right, welcome back to the show. Now,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: as announcements go, this one is a big one.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: It's so big only Caleb can do it.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: Oh it is, it is big LEI, as Donald Trump
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: would say. Before I get to that, I'm going to
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: take you on a walk down memory lane. We love
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: to do that here on the Late Debate have a
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: look Oh the sound of my childhood, often accompanied by
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: Mum telling me to get off the computer and stop
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: playing games with my mates so she could make a
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: telephone call. But it turns out the dial up is
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: officially dead in America. Apparently there are a couple of
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: ISPs still offering it here in Australia, but one of
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: the big ones in the United States has put out
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: a statement to its customers warning them that they are
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: about to.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Cut off dial up.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: Aol it is that is getting rid of it in
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: the US, And when I read this today I thought it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Was is anyone still using dial up?
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Like it's this a statement to the five customers that
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: are still using dial up?
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: But there you go, it is gone.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I would not have believed it unless i'd heard it
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: direct from you, Caleb, and I did. Racing Nascars is
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: a pretty dangerous sport. But it turns out even more
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: dangerous than racing a NASCAR is winning a race in
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: a NASCAR, as nineteen year old winner Connor Zilich found
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: out at the weekend, having won the race driving it
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: over three hundred kilometers an hour.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: That wasn't the dangerous part. The dangerous part was when
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: he went to get up on the roof of his
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: car to celebrate. Have a look been career wins.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Let's go down to Mobil one Victory Lane, dye.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: On the cage store.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: My gosh, oh now now he broke his collar phone.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Turns out the car was pristine, but the driver's ego
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: was well and truly dnted out well.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: The Left has found their answer to a very attractive, slim, blondehaired,
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: blue eyed Sydney Sweeney.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: And it's Lizzo. And I'm sorry for these distressing images.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: What did I tell you?
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: I'm going into October exacting like the fun is over,
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: ex acting like Summer's over, the am coming over, ladder
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: bottles and a ladasodas shots cold like Minnesota flat jeez.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Like I'm Sydney.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a bit disturbing. I'll take American Eagle and
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: Sydney Sweeney over that any day. She definitely has good jeans, Lizzo,
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: I think you got.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Some work to do.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Sidney Sween. Sidney Sweeney wins that one
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and a half of.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: Canter Well, I yes, I would agree, but you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: we shouldn't get too down on her because she has
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: actually lost a fair bit of weight, so she may
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: well continue down that road.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: But surely this puts it all to bed now.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can't complain about it anymore when you've
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: got Lizzo getting on board with it as well, that
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: the trend is well and truly off.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: That's all we've got time for tonight stick around. Coming
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: up in just a moment is the readA Penney Show
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: hosted by Anika de Georgio.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Good Night,