Latest / Freedom Flip / Why Comfort Is Keeping You From Your Real Purpose - EP025

Transcript

Why Comfort Is Keeping You From Your Real Purpose - EP025 · Freedom Flip

• 0:00
  Dude, when you're in a chokehold and you know it's a buddy, so you know you're not gonna die, but your body's still telling you you're gonna die, and you're like getting close to passing out, it's like to practice building that muscle of still thinking clearly when you think you're gonna die, that has made me so much more relaxed in all the chaos that is business in this world. What are those things that you don't wanna tell anyone
• 0:18
  My dad was terrible. This happened to me as a kid. What are the darkest, darkest corners of your life? And those may be some of the greatest nuggets when you shine a light on them. It might be this golden nugget that you invest some energy, some light on, attention. And man, something beautiful grows from that.
• 0:33
  I believe that we came here with a purpose. When our time comes, we go to the other side, and that's when we are like, oh, why the I didn't do what I said that I was going to do? I forgot about it. I got distracted with this and with this and with this and with this. Is this what you came to this planet to do? Do you want to wait until you die to figure it out, or do you prefer to figure it out now?
• 0:55
  How does it feel to feel like? Man, a healthy man has 1000 wishes. A sick man has only one. Is there anything that you could have done different so you don't get sick? You know, I don't know, like getting your booster. It's so funny with the guidelines. I've been thinking about this a lot because I had this goal of not getting sick for a year and I just got to a year of not being sick. And I was, you know, ego, I'm bragging like,
• 1:21
  I didn't get sick this year. That was awesome. I had a couple of tricks that I was taught by someone. As soon as you think you're getting sick to do, and they were just working. And I'm sure some of it's placebo, some of it actually works, blah, blah, blah. I'm doing these things each time. And then I'm like, oh, it's summer. People don't get sick in the summer. So I didn't use those methods. And that is what I would say was my failure to just continue what's working. Can you share one of the methods? Yeah, I'll share them all. My aunt, who's
• 1:51
  peer-reviewed journal articles. She's not even a doctor, but she helps these, as she would say, like brilliant nerdy docs get their stuff out published. She pushes it out into the right organizations to get it to change and influence policy globally. She started this only because her daughter was really sick and nothing would help her. And she had to dig in to find the solution, basically did. And it was a crazy cure that she helped create. So I just have a lot of belief in her having different opinions because she comes from a business world, but she understands
• 2:21
  And she told me, Peter, the literature, my experience is very clear. If you're getting sick, spray salt. So saline spray, salty water up your nose. I've not, you know, I've got a pretty boring nose. I've not snorted like anything ever. And I hate, I hated it. But I was like, all right, I'll try it. So you stick this thing up and you just squirt. And it's wild because I didn't realize how connected your nose and mouth are. Because when you snort hard enough, you can taste it in your mouth.
• 2:47
  So when I'm getting sick, I squirt one nostril and then the other so hard that the sealing spray goes around and isn't in my mouth. And, you know, that is, that's my kind of rule. The second step is you gargle water. Sorry, one question. When you are pushing the water in through your nose, are you swallowing it or it's coming through your mouth? I wouldn't because it just went through the whole nasal passage. If there's any that ends up in my mouth, which is, to be clear, very little because it's the back of your throat. It's coming, coming all the way around. I spit that out immediately. Everything comes out of your mouth, basically.
• 3:17
  Most of it comes back through the nose. Depending on how far up, 80 to 99%. Now, you need to explain this properly, Peter. You're not doing a good service here. Where does the water come out? It has to come out somewhere. Or it has to go somewhere. 80 to 90% out of your nose. The same nostril? Yes. What? The nose is wild. That is not my experience. Well, you've got a messed up nose. We all know that.
• 3:37
  That is because of my party past, you know? A lot of baking soda. You got a bad boy nose. I got a boring nose. No, I'm saying this because after the surgery that I did to fix my, what's the name of this thing in the middle? Sinoplasty? No, no, but that's because you wanted to look cuter. That's rhinoplasty. All my friends were like, how was your rhinoplasty? How's your nose job? I was like, well, it's still broken.
• 3:59
  So the septum was deviated, so they did that to fix it. So that way I can breathe properly from both nostrils. And after that, I had to put a solution through, which is very similar to what you are describing, but you don't press it and push it all the way. You are pressing it and it's coming through your mouth. So you have to put yourself in a position so the water comes through your mouth, not through the same nostrils. That makes no sense. It's different protocols. Mine is you don't have to have it come all the way to your mouth.
• 4:26
  I just know when I've done that, it flushed my entire sinus system. Yours may have needed to do that because of the nose job to look beautiful that you wanted. It may be different levels. At least in my experience, it's good to double check. So moving on, you didn't do your protocol. You got sick. And you've been sick for how long? A woman from Europe, she came and she's like, I'm so sick. I feel terrible. And I actually said this to her. I was like, I bet you're just low oxygen, brain fog. It's probably something like that.
• 4:52
  No, I feel so terrible. And she got, it was a small party with like 10 people. Three or four of the people have the same illness I do. Oh, so that's where you got it. Oh. So what is this? A chicken thing? Is the pork thing? Is the flu thing? No, no. I think it was her being, oh, the name, I have no idea. Which one is it? I haven't felt this sick four or five years. It's been a long time since I've felt this sick. Should we run through the exits? What should we do? So you're a f***er.
• 5:19
  so you're getting better right you're in the recovery i am but last night was wild so i'm a purist i try not take medicine unless i have to so i haven't taken tylenol you know oh man you are missing so many good things i haven't i haven't used any of them in like i don't know five or ten years shut up peter stop being so so exaggerated so argentinian totally serious five to ten years that is like a wide range but okay i'm just gonna let it slide
• 5:43
  I can't remember exact dates and years, but I've just refused it. So last night was my first night. I was like, what did you get? To Advil. With whiskey? You need to add the whiskey there. And dude, I sweat like three pounds. Twice I woke up and there's a puddle of sweat. And I don't know if it's related to my body not being used to Advil. Didn't you pee yourself?
• 6:04
  That's what my mom asked me today. My mom was like, did you just pee yourself? I was like, no, because I know what it's like to pee yourself. And that was a lot more water than urine. Look, I've done that before. It was funny. My mom goes, I've only had that happen once. And it was after I delivered you guys. So she had triplets and had a C-section. I'm a triplet. She said she sweat out across the whole bed, just a massive amount of liquid. That's awesome.
• 6:27
  I weighed three and a half pounds or four pounds. I was 176 when I went to bed and I was 172 when I woke up. I just checked for fun because I don't check that often, but I'm losing weight, which I don't want to. I want to be adding muscle. So I've been looking more often to see as I'm sick, I'm not working out how much am I losing. And that was the biggest jump I've had of any days I've checked.
• 6:48
  This water loss was just massive. Yeah, it was wild. So getting back to what I've used, one is saline spray, and you do it a lot. You also do it the moment you're around sick people. So Pablo's going, ah, ah, coughing along. He's like, I don't feel very good. Go home proactively, snort a little saline snort up.
• 7:06
  Just get it up there. Have a little party in your nose. Just salt and water. Step one. Step two, you do mouthwash. There's a particular kind. I'm sure people have it online. But use one of these more serious ones and you gargle it because that's getting down in your throat cavity to get it. And, dude, I've only done those two things. And I have four kids that are, you know, whatever, super young, always sick.
• 7:28
  And I thought I survived like World War III by not getting sick for a year. I was so proud and impressed to get by. And it's natural stuff, right? This is, well, I guess the mouthwash is not natural, but the salt is very natural. It felt cool to find those two solutions.
• 7:45
  The mouthwash is, are you talking about something that is like for breath, you mean? Or is it a different one? It is a breath. This particular one, I think you can use a lot of different ones. The best one, I'm told, it's some kind of breath, cavity, mouth prevention. Do you have like a Freedom Flip code here? Promo code?
• 8:03
  Freedom flip is you'll pay 50% more and you're going to get sick if you use this code now buying the mouthwash and the saline salt. Click the link, right? Click now. Let's go. Now starting a saline spray company. We want to party in your nose. Man, that's not a bad idea. I mean it sincerely. Yeah, we both have deviated septums, had broken noses, got our nose jobs to look beautiful. That's why we decided to get on camera. Everything except the last part of it, yeah.
• 8:28
  Yeah, we did not do that. I did that because I broke my nose in a bike accident. A friend of mine told me, it's like, dude, you are doing all this massive surgery in your nose. Just get it trimmed a little bit. I'm like, what? And I said, it's going to add days of recovery or not? He's like, yeah, it will add more days. I'm like, I'm not interested. Zero.
• 8:45
  Dude, and also when you do that one, I know a girl who did it and it looks like you got punched in the face all over just real like mine didn't really give that I had a little bit below my eyes, but that's a whole different level. I was actually thinking about sickness as a topic for this. I'm so passionate about suffering and I was texting my buddy.
• 9:02
  A hundred years ago, the billionaires, you know, the Rockefellers, the people that had all the wealth in the world, they didn't have Tylenol. They didn't have painkillers. They didn't have any of these. And I think it's us losing perspective. And how do we lose perspective by not having some pain? That's part of the reason I try to avoid all these little painkillers because experiencing it, I think, you know, heightens our ability to withstand pain and suffering. And I think that is in today's world, pain and suffering is more psychological.
• 9:30
  I'm not going to be, my friends are going to make fun of me. I'm not going to be accepted anymore than it is physical. But I think they cross over. And I think when you're heightening your ability to withstand suffering and either the mental or physical, they have the potential to cross over. Not always, right? And we've talked about this with people we know. But for me, I notice I'm more willing to, I'm trying to push myself on both of them. But the physical one is one that I just think people underdo in today's world of just being
• 9:57
  Taking and what are easy ways to do? So let me let me flip it. And let's focus on how someone examples I do, right? And I'm open to learn new ones. One is fasting once a month, 24 to 36 hours, right? One, yes, it's supposed to create this process where we're actually eating the worst parts of ourself, killing cancer, blah, blah, blah, extend life. Great.
• 10:14
  But two, it reminds me how lucky I am to have food. Because when you don't eat, all the nice to haves, all the wants get thrown out the window. Just like getting sick. Don't encourage you to get sick. But when you do, embrace the suffering, right? Just soak it in and reset our whole bar of, I need this to be happy. I need this to be happy. No, I'm healthy. I am so fortunate to have a functioning body and mind to go walk around and do stuff. Because I don't have that right now.
• 10:44
  And I can tell you, it is not fun feeling like garbage to feel like full migraine for 24 hours yesterday. So I encourage everyone to dig into that, to own the suffering in their life, to own some of this pain, to reset their expectations. What other kind of sufferings do you encourage besides getting sick, right? But what other kind of sufferings we tend to avoid as humans nowadays?
• 11:08
  I think it's really interesting, right? Let's talk about ones I'm interested in pursuing right now. Like breath is a need. And I'm really interested in these deep dives where these free divers go down. And I have a limiting belief that I'm not good at holding my breath. So I wanna try and bust through this limiting belief. And there's a deep fear in going down.
• 11:24
  I just met a really interesting entrepreneur this weekend, and he was talking about jiu-jitsu, which is like a form of wrestling that Pablo, you've done a lot. And I was like, do you do any other workout? He's like, no, just jiu-jitsu. And I was like, you look like you're in good shape. He's like, yeah, it's unlocked something in me. I go, what do you mean? He goes, I'm such a better business person because of jiu-jitsu.
• 11:43
  I go, whoa, tell me more. And I'd love if you agree with his thought after this. He goes, dude, when you're in a chokehold and you know, it's a buddy, so you know you're not gonna die, but your body's still telling you you're gonna die. And you're like getting close to passing out. It's like to practice building that muscle of still thinking clearly when you think you're gonna die.
• 12:01
  That has made me so much more relaxed in all the chaos that is business in this world. And he just said, there's something deep in a Neanderthal level of my body and mind that it helps me unlock by doing this form of suffering. Yeah, I think that Jiu-Jitsu, or I would say almost any kind of physical sport, but especially Jiu-Jitsu or any other martial art. So I did Aikido before and Jiu-Jitsu. And what I find very interesting is
• 12:29
  So I call Jiu-Jitsu is like playing chess with the body because there is so many different ways that things can go. And so many moments that you think that you are about to win and things flip like this. Now all of a sudden you have to be scrambling and defending yourself. So it's this constant like be patient, be patient.
• 12:52
  So the typical thing that happens at the beginning is we gas out. We are like, oh, your heart is just coming out of your mouth, basically. Why? Because we just go so hard. In addition to also, there is something that I guess gets triggered about someone choking you or someone that is attacking you, even though you know that the person is going to hurt you.
• 13:11
  but there is something that happens. So there's more nervousness. And so therefore you, you just get out of breath very quickly. And then when you are, so I took a lot of classes with the teacher, with the, with the black belt and seeing how these guys move, it's an art. It's incredible. So one may think that if
• 13:30
  If you go harder, then you're going to be able to succeed. If you just work hard, that is just horseshit, right? The person that is building a building, the guy that is working all day long, carrying a lot of heavy materials and constructing a building, that is fucking...
• 13:46
  hard work. Now, does that mean that that person is going to achieve all their dreams that they have? Maybe not, because that work is not going to make the person make a lot of money. But so there is a lot of, there has to be a combination in terms of, I would say hard work is discipline. You need discipline. Yes. But then you also need to play smart strategically. And when you are with a black belt, that means person knows how to control energy.
• 14:13
  knows how to regulate, knows how to put pressure by just relaxing. Wow. There is a very good example that if a person tightens, two people can lift this person and move it from one side to the other one. Zero problem. The person is tight, all contracted. Very contracted makes the person be very easy to manipulate.
• 14:35
  Now, if the person just goes dead, dead body weight, it's way harder to move that person because there is no fixed point. The person is moving. The body is moving. Everything is flowing. So in jujitsu, the more you relax, the better you do.
• 14:52
  which is counterintuitive. And now I am playing paddle and it's very similar. Very similar. The people that are playing the hardest, they're the dumbest. And they're the people that lose the most amount of points. Just go and watch the pros. The pros, if you watch intermediate players that they never took classes, you can see how the rallies is maybe five, five back and forth. That's it. Pros, they go to 30. So it's all about building the point.
• 15:22
  Being patient, being patient, patient, patient, patient. And eventually you have an opportunity and maybe you capitalize on that. But if not, just patient. You keep going, you keep going, you keep going, you keep going. Which is any successful person that I know. If I look at the length of how many years they have been doing this, it's 10 years plus. Whew.
• 15:42
  That's big. I thought of two things when you're talking. One is the drunk person that's driving a car. I mean, it's a sad flip, but it's a flip. A drunk driver with all of his friends. Oftentimes, if there is a survivor in a terrible car accident for the future, humans did used to drive cars with alcohol. It's insane. I know. Still can't understand it, but we're past that, whoever's listening in the future. And when the drunk driver gets hit or the drunk passenger at
• 16:09
  They're all flopped out and they're uninjured or less likely to lose their life or have whatever. Passengers or others who are drunk, they get stiff. You said, right? Stiff is fragile. Stiff you break. Yeah. Yeah. Like the glass, right? A piece of glass. It's very stiff. Very easy to break. Now, a stick of bamboo, very hard to break.
• 16:30
  Yeah. It reminds me of this quote I keep, I don't know, this one I heard simplicity scales from a really cool book, Science of Scaling. And they kept saying simplicity scales, simplicity scales. And I was like, you know, my flipping mind, freedom flip mind came to like, okay, well, what's the opposite? I was like, well, simple, okay, complex. And it just popped in my head. Okay, let's flip his beautiful quote, simplicity scales, complexity fails. Yeah. And it's in jujitsu right now. I have a mental frame of
• 16:57
  when i dig into it from you a very beautiful simple thing is the more relaxed one wins the more i can be the relaxed one you know and of course there's learning and i'm relaxed because i actually know what i'm doing and moving my body in an efficient way like an artist yeah relax doesn't mean lazy yes doesn't mean oh just hit me in the face i don't care doesn't mean passive fact
• 17:18
  There is a lot of activity in the relaxation, in the stillness. There's so much depth there about this coming back to kind of the suffering and the comfort in suffering, the comfort in that moment. And how do you create a longer time? For a lot of people, meditation, another example of something that's a lot of suffering. And I did 71 days, which is like my 72, one of my longest streaks ever in my life. And then I was actually fragile because I was so stressed about not missing a day. I missed the day. I was like, ah, yeah.
• 17:47
  And then I did five days and then I missed another day. And now I did another 20. And I've realized I want to generally do it every day. But meditating is a form of suffering because our mind wants to be active. It tells itself we need to be active. And I've noticed if I meditate in a day, then anytime I'm out in the world and I see an annoyance, I have what feels like a lot longer to respond. My reactive response is way slower on days where I've meditated. And it's a flip. It's because I spent this time suffering through meditation.
• 18:17
  Why do you call it suffering? For the average person, including me most days, I suffer before I meditate. And even in a really long one, I suffer during it. My mind's telling me, me, well, sorry, ego. Wait, double click on that. So which part suffers? All 100% of you? I think it's mostly an ego thing, right? Which, what percentage is that of you? Most days, 99.9, you know? No, no, no. What I mean is, I understand, you have ego, we all have ego. But what percentage of your whole self is ego? Yeah.
• 18:47
  On a day-to-day basis, how I'm operating? Yeah, whatever. I don't know, 20 or 30 is what comes to me. Yeah, let's just say that it's even 50%, just to keep it simple, right? Let's just say that you have ego, which is the persona that we have been building in this lifetime. And then we have the essence, the soul, whatever we want to call it. So let's just keep it super simple, 50-50. So when you say, I suffer, I am suffering, I think that it's important to understand who is suffering.
• 19:13
  I personally like to say, to call it the following way. I like to say the weaker part of me doesn't want to do X, Y, Z. That's beautiful. But that's not me as a whole. That's not I suffer. Yeah, I love, I think about, there's a Dr. Richard Swartz was a Harvard psychiatrist, came up something called family, internal family systems.
• 19:34
  has a cool book on it i've done i've read the book as well as uh been a participant or worked with someone who specializes in this and their whole thing is we're a we're like a board of directors and that part of me you said the weaker part here's another flip what they would say is you go to that part and you thank it and you're like thank you for protecting me you did your job you stood strong thank you right now i'm going to reimagine the scenario
• 20:01
  and basically kind of transfer my limiting belief or my fears around this thing, whatever it is. We did one that felt like I was on a psychedelic. It was wild where it took me back to a childhood memory and we kind of replayed it. And a lot would say, man, it took me into the suffering. It took me direct, it's a freedom flip. To be set free, I had to go back into the moment. Now we repurposed it. It was so wild. I was in the basement of this weird building with no windows.
• 20:26
  This older guy is taking me through it. Wild. But I came in as the adult me and held the little me's hand and went through the whole scenario. And we created an alternative ending. And that alternative ending was a flip that set me free. That's awesome. Yeah, it's powerful. And I think it's a cool flip to what you're saying. I make sense to call it the weaker part of ourselves. What if it's actually the strongest part of ourself? And that's what's overriding everything else. Because it's coming from this fear to protect us to where it's the loudest guy in the room saying, okay.
• 20:54
  Pablo, Peter, you're in trouble. This is bad. This is bad. So it's basically the loudest part of us that we just need to be like, thank you. Done your job. I'm good. Appreciate you. And let it be able to sit back down and be in their beliefs, you know, in his, you have organs. So it's basically tied to body parts. And, you know, this is what really controls you. And it's a sum of parts rather than a single whole.
• 21:16
  Peter, a different question. Do you know what is your purpose in life? To suffer, obviously, right? Besides eating ice cream, what else? Well, you got to throw a doughnuts with the ice cream.
• 21:25
  Come on, Billy. Why don't we flip it? What would you say is your purpose in life, Pablo? Let me ask you a different one. How important do you think that it is for us to have clarity on what's our purpose in life? I think having purpose is the most important thing in life. And knowing yourself to understand what are those things that give purpose is the most important thing. So how can one understand what is the purpose in life?
• 21:51
  I think you can look at a lot of different historical text examples. You can look at mentors, leaders that are alive today or dead now that you aspire to be and think about what was theirs. And I'm more and more leaning into, you know, I've got three daughters. It's like, hey, look at the women you want to be like. What gives them purpose? What grounds them? To my son, hey, who are the men that you want to be like? What grounds them? What gives them purpose?
• 22:14
  Use their playbook as an example. Let's read books on somebody who used to live and find what their purpose is. And in my mind, you know, the three that come to mind most often are faith, some kind of religious belief. You know, that gives people a lot of purpose, right? And whether that's just believing in God or believing in a specific religion. Second, children. Children give an unbelievable amount of purpose because you are now essentially required to keep that life alive. You know, you can't take a day off because you're sick. They don't care.
• 22:42
  Yeah, they you're going to have to go through suffering. Depends. There is there is a lot of parents that don't get that, don't do that.
• 22:49
  I think we're talking about two different things. It still can give them purpose and they can still be frustrated while it being a grounding, purposeful activity. So let's just take a step back. What is purpose? A reason for being. Okay, perfect. So just saying my dog gives me purpose. My cat gives me purpose. My son gives me purpose. My daughter gives me purpose. My wife gives me purpose. My husband gives me purpose. What does that mean?
• 23:14
  It gives you a greater reason for being. To me, it's like a scale rather than absolutes. So you think you're going up in the scale of having great reason for purpose. Yeah, but I mean specifically. What does that mean? I understand the phrase. Truly, and I think it ties in nicely with our earlier discussion, it gives you a reason for staying alive, which comes in direct conflict with the suffering that we will exist in life as a living being.
• 23:40
  So you have inevitable suffering, struggle, pain. And when you, so I gave the example, I'm super sick. My kids do not care. They still need a dad. They still need food. They still need protection. They still need to be at XYZ. I have to rise above, you know, or have systems and people to support or both, you know, have a nanny, a partner, you know, wife, et cetera, to do these things. They still want to see me, play with me, whatever. It gives me reason to rise above my suffering to be a great dad or to try and be a dad at all.
• 24:09
  Okay, so now let's go even higher with the question. So when we say, what is your purpose in life? Right. One person may say, oh, the purpose of life for me is being a father and being a great employee and being a great son. Is that an accurate answer?
• 24:27
  Yeah, can be. Interesting. I would invoke the same line that I've heard from a wise man, know yourself and invest accordingly. And I think that applies directly to the purpose discussion as well. What do you mean? It's a highly personal discussion. So I think about my incredible daughters. If they wanna go try and start a business the way I did, great, let's talk about it. If they wanna just be a mom, great, let's talk about it. I wanna support and help them.
• 24:50
  And if they say, hey, I want to be a mom full time and raise kids, let's do it. That's a purpose that I think is maybe it's the most important job is being an incredible parent or the parent that takes that burden on.
• 25:01
  Yeah, I have a different opinion. Not that the job is not difficult. To me, that is a responsibility that people decide to take in different magnitudes. And we see this all the time, right? So the way that you decide to take the responsibility of parenting your kids, it's different than another father.
• 25:23
  And another father. And another father. And so on and so on. All the way to the father that decides to abandon their kids. Right? So you have a massive scale of grace there. To me, when I'm thinking about what's the purpose of your life, I am literally thinking of the following. I believe that we came here with a purpose. We came here with a, I am going to go there to do X, Y, Z.
• 25:49
  And I think that when our time comes and we go to the other side, I think that that's when we are like, oh, why the I didn't do what I said that I was going to do? Like, Jesus. Okay. Unbelievable. I forgot about it. I got distracted with this and with this and with this and with this. Wow. I think that that is the massive difference. And again, there is nothing wrong whatsoever of taking massive responsibility and
• 26:16
  For you being a great father, a great husband, son, boss, entrepreneur, whatever you want to be, right? That's fantastic. That's wonderful. Now, my question is, is this what you came to this planet to do? That's my question. Yeah, I'd call that soul's purpose. I think...
• 26:36
  that there are examples of mothers that you're like, it looks that this is exactly what this person came here to do. Because you can see this person just floats. You can see this person shining while this person is doing this activity. But I think that most of us, first of all, we don't pay attention to this. We are not really looking for the real purpose. I have to use these words because if not, we just get conflicted with, oh, my purpose is being a good father.
• 27:04
  Well, that's your responsibility, I would say. Is that why you came to this planet to be a great father? Is that literally the goal? And someone may say, well, I don't know what was my goal. Okay. Do you want to wait until you die to figure out or you prefer to figure out now? Beautiful, man. I would just use one adjective at the front. I call it soul's purpose, right? In this life, what is the soul's purpose?
• 27:24
  Definitely, definitely agree. I was thinking more... So that is an interesting one because, yeah, maybe by not adding the word soul purpose, then people start thinking about ego purpose. Yeah, I was thinking about the book about World War II camp. I was thinking about the World War II camp. It looks like it's a summer camp, Peter. Can you be more respectful? Sorry.
• 27:47
  It was just a fun camp people want to go to. Viktor Frankl, who is a psychiatrist that was in a camp as a Jew in World War II. So Man's Search for Meaning is a famous book about World War II where Viktor Frankl was a psychiatrist.
• 28:04
  and he was thrown into this camp so he was a doctor of the brain basically and he chronicles these experiences as a prisoner in a nazi camp jewish guy in world war ii and he talked about describing his psychotherapeutic method of identifying a purpose to each person's life through one of three ways it was either the completion of tasks caring for another person or finding meaning by facing suffering with dignity
• 28:32
  Frank Oll, the author, he obsessed that among the fellow inmates in the concentration camp, those who survive were able to connect with a purpose in life to feel positive about and who then immerse themselves in imagining that purpose in their own way, such as thinking about a loved one. And the way I remember this was...
• 28:49
  He created his own theory in psychology called logotherapy, L-O-G-O, and then the word therapy. I always remember this because I can't remember. Memory is not something that came natural to me. And the way I've become an excellent person at memorizing is through mental imagery. And I think of the logos. So you got some people are like, I'm an NBA basketball. I'm this fan. I'm a, you know, you with some Argentinian soccer team or football team.
• 29:16
  whoever you're wearing. I'm a big, you know, XYZ. And it's like you see this enthusiasm on the logo. So logotherapy, logo, L-O-G-O. That's what clicked for me. And so once he got back to, you know, the world post-World War II, his entire practice as a psychiatrist came around these suicidal people.
• 29:35
  And he'd sit with them and he'd basically be a searching in their whole life through questions about what is anything that you're excited about? Your kids, a girlfriend, a boyfriend, an ex-girlfriend, boyfriend, your parents, your job, your whatever it is, where's a hobby? And he'd find that one thing that you had a spark and he'd basically just try and, you know, push some energy around that spark, be a little gasoline to make it grow lighter. You'll be larger. And that was so powerful for me as a way for any of us when we're suffering to,
• 30:05
  whether they're in the most barbaric conditions possible, where they're treated like dogs, to us who feel like we're being treated like a dog, even though we're in the best time to be alive as a human, that really hit deep. And that's what was in my mind when you asked about purpose, which is just maybe it's a soul level. Maybe that's a more basic level of purpose that just keeps you from thinking dark thoughts about it in your own life or something on those lines.
• 30:29
  So you mentioned three things in purpose, right? And so say it again. You said the completion of tasks, then. His three ways to identify each person's purpose was one, the completion of tasks, two, caring for another person, three, finding meaning by facing suffering with dignity. So explain the last one.
• 30:48
  Yeah, so Nelson Mandela and Hazan Abir, if you talk about this as well, when he was in South Africa, and they basically did like little small things that weren't considered okay. Like you're a guard in South Africa or in World War II and you're disrespecting me. I do small things. You didn't explicitly say don't do this, but it was a small thing to show my dignity for myself. It was like, no, I'm not doing that.
• 31:09
  For example? You know, Nelson Mandela had the example of, they were like, hey, we want you to put the rocks over there. And instead of using the shovels, which would be fast, they'd do it by hand. Because it's going to take way longer. They didn't say don't use your hands. So the guards aren't really watching. And then barely any rocks got moved. The guards are like, we told you to move the rocks. You have shovels. And they're like, well, whatever.
• 31:27
  So it was like this, because they believed in themselves, they said, I have dignity where I'm not being controlled or doing these horrible things. That was really the key shift. Let's flip this. Let's go the exact opposite. What Frankl noticed when he knew people would die is they'd attach themselves to an arbitrary result.
• 31:45
  They'd go, I'm going to get out of this concentration camp in 30 days. In 30 days, we're all going to be out. And this person would attach themselves to some specific date, and they became very fragile. Because when that date hit, and they didn't, he basically would see it literally sometimes overnight, definitely over days or weeks, they passed away.
• 32:03
  Because their hope, their whole identity was tied. And think about how deep this is, right? They tied their identity to something outside of their control that they didn't really even believe in, right? It wasn't a true logo or logotherapy. And they tied their identity to this. And when it didn't come to fruition, you know.
• 32:19
  You're in a tough spot. The purpose, the reason of being, the reason of doing, the purpose. There is multiple levels. Well, when I am a baby, what is my purpose? Just to live, to survive. When I am facing a life or death situation, what is my purpose? To survive, to live. When I have no money to eat, what is my purpose? To find food and to eat so I don't die. And then when you have...
• 32:46
  More or less the food things like, what is your purpose? Well, I want to do something in the world. I want to work. I want to improve myself. Okay, great. And I think that those, to me, those are not real purposes. To me, that one more time, if after we go to the other side, I don't think that that's what we came here to do.
• 33:05
  I don't think that we came here to eat, even though that's a need. And some things are a want. Like, I want to get this job. Great. Perfect. I don't think also that it's a bad idea whatsoever to attach yourself to something when you are going through a very rough time. So I cannot even imagine, but being in a concentration camp.
• 33:26
  If the only thing that you are focusing on is what is happening in that moment and what happened to your friends and your family, man, you're not going to have a, it's going to be very hard. But if you are able to find something bigger, then I think that you have a chance. So now that is an extreme situation in a concentration camp. But then I am thinking, why not doing also that right away? Even when you are in a good spot, why not attaching yourself to something bigger?
• 33:55
  And I think that there is one more time, there's nothing wrong with us taking care of ourselves and our family. That's great. But our family is an extension of ourselves. The likelihood of you taking care of one of your daughters the same way that you are taking care of them right now, if they were not one of your daughters, the likelihood is almost 0%. So it's an extension of ourselves. It's great. And it's very important. Take care of your kids. Take care of your loved ones. Yes, 100%.
• 34:22
  But I don't think that many people came to this world to do that, as that is your purpose in life. I don't think so. I think that there is something bigger. And I think that there is something that happens underneath all those, let's call it tasks or things that we are responsible for and that we really feel called. Like, for example, you really feel called of being a super present father in a way that I have not really seen from other fathers.
• 34:50
  Not saying that they are terrible, but you feel very cold. To me, there is an underlying thing, a deeper thing that is connected to that. And the same way that you feel very cold to do something for the younger generation. No, I'm not talking about your kids. I'm talking about the humans, the younger generation. You feel very cold. I don't feel very cold about that. You feel very cold about that.
• 35:11
  So I think that one more time, there is an underlying theme. To me, for example, you being an incredible father, to me, that is a mission. You doing your nonprofit, helping kids achieve independence, or that's another mission. It's a vehicle where you express your purpose. And I just think that most people have no clue about this. And I think that we would be doing much better if we had an idea about what's our purpose. And we were spending more time connected to that.
• 35:39
  A lot of truth on that. I do think, I think the Buddhists say, your purpose might be, I read somewhere described as being at the right place at the right time to ring the bell. What is that bell? It's different for each person. And that may be your purpose, both on a kind of cosmic humanity level, as well as for you as an individual.
• 36:00
  And that bell may be as little as one person's life you were supposed to change in an unchangeable way, right? And then ripples through their generations. And I do think that some of what you're saying, I think when I'm digesting it, it sounds so overwhelming, right? That a lot of people are like, I don't want to get started. I'm Billy. I'm already busy enough just trying to eat. Inflation, my grocery bill went up by 2x.
• 36:26
  Yeah, and I would say bullshit. You are richer than the richest person 100 years ago. So you, stop repeating the bullshit that you hear everywhere. You're being a sheep. Stop doing that. And again, I'm talking about most people that are going to be watching this, usually they are Americans. I'm not talking about a person that has no running water, no electricity, no food, is literally dying of starvation in the middle of...
• 36:49
  nowhere so i'm clearly that person doesn't even have internet so they never heard about what a podcast is or anything like that i'm talking if you're watching this just compare your standard of living in comparison to a person 100 years ago and just go 200 years ago and then shut up because that excuse is not good enough
• 37:07
  I've got a good example of that. I was reading a book about these massive factories that make the cell phones in the future. We're not going to know what a cell phone is, but it's a way to call people. And they were talking so critically about, you know, you have thousands of workers in these plants and they work 12-hour shifts and five, six days a week, which definitely is intense, right? And this...
• 37:27
  It's so easy to cast your judgment of how you see the world. But this woman was actually interviewed that works at one of those. And they're like, what do you think of your job? And she's like, it's amazing. I feel so lucky and honored to have it. And they were so confused because of their preconceived notion, right? Their lens of the world. They're probably from Europe or the United States.
• 37:42
  And they go, what? What do you mean you love it? Like, this is a really tough job. She goes, well, before this, I was a prostitute. And that was the only way I had found to put food on the table for my kids. And that just this measuring by our own system or the way we see the world is the same that everyone else sees the world, right? The number of people that, as you said, would fight.
• 38:05
  that are living today, much less the millions that are deceased, would fight tooth and nail to be in the spot of anyone listening to this. I think this comes back to the suffering. I think suffering for me, you know, jiu-jitsu, meditation, meditation or mindfulness, getting sick, fasting, they actually help give us a clearer lens. We're looking through glasses that are a little clearer to understand that fact.
• 38:29
  Without that, we tell us this crazy story where we're actually living by analogy. We're living comparing ourselves. How do I look compared to him? I'm Billy. How do I look compared to the guy down the street or my uncle or my brother? I'm supposed to be here by now. That life by analogy is a road to hell. A life by first principles is what matters to me. What is my purpose in life? What are these first principles that are really key to me? That's what I want to dig in. Not how do I compare to others or what are others doing, but
• 38:57
  Who am I on a root level? What are the things or the decisions or the systems I want to think about key decisions? To me, right, that's where I come to a flip of suffering is good. Yes, suffering is growth. When you are being conscious, suffering is growth. When you are not being conscious, then you're going to complain. You're going to cry. You're going to blame others. And you're not going to learn and you're not going to grow. And then suffering is just going to beat you up.
• 39:27
  One point I want to come back to from yours that I really like is our friend Anastasia hit on what you were talking about, about parenting. And I had never heard this point before that parenting is really an extension of yourself, your children, your clan, your bloodline. That's tribal mentality. That's an extension of ourselves. I never thought about that, right? Because, you know, some people would say racism. It depends who you're talking about, right? Racism, a form of tribalism. Hey, these people look like me. I want to protect those that are similar to me.
• 39:56
  In some cultures, that's expected and told really good. In other cultures, they're like, no, you're the worst man in the world. The same thing could be applied to this parenting, right? So most cultures, though, say, hey, you should be an involved parent, right? Some, your business needs or other things come far above this.
• 40:13
  And when I looked at an example of Elon Musk, who in the future, you guys are going to be confused, but there were tons of people that hated him while he was alive. And, you know, I'll try and give some context to the future listener to think about why would they hate this man who progressed humanity in such a significant way? And here's the point I agreed on. So let's flip it. Let's find where did I agree with these individuals that just hated him?
• 40:36
  which include my parents, right? Or at least did, I don't know. They're back and forth depending on what they're told. You know, and I love my parents, just to be clear. But, you know, as a parent, I looked at it like, man, it's so important, the next generation, your kids and blah, blah, blah, which I still believe and I spend my own time. I thought, man, I don't understand his lack of time, which granted, he spends a fair amount with some of his kids. Some of his kids are adults. They've got their own lives, blah, blah, blah.
• 41:03
  But what really flipped my whole mind was when our friend mentioned, you know, to want to push the world forward in humanity level change, that actually is a sacrifice of self and your own identity, your own ego.
• 41:19
  which is you, your kids, your family, right? To believe your bloodline is not necessarily the highest priority in your life as a purpose, but fulfilling these missions. And that was like, boom, explosion in my brain. Of it just clicked. Now I, right now, I'm not prepared to make a sacrifice like that.
• 41:38
  There is no purpose that I have found on these levels of purpose that you've explained that I would believe pushes humanity forward in a way that I would be sacrificial towards my immediate family, my selfish ego side of wanting to see my family. Yeah, but also you don't have to go, let's just take that extreme, the way that Elon does things. First of all, can we agree that we have no foundation?
• 41:59
  include how much time he spent with his kids. Can we agree on that? Nobody. We don't know. We are not buddies. And definitely, I don't believe anything that the media says. So we don't know how present or not present is. But I guess that what is pretty clear is that he spends a lot of time from Monday to Monday working in his different missions. Let's just start right there. And what I would say is, I don't think that it's a good idea to compare yourself with
• 42:27
  Okay, forget about Elon. Just say Mahatma Gandhi or Jesus. Yeah. Okay, great. Two people that literally gave their lives, both murdered. Think about that. Both murdered, killed. Yes. For something that they really believed in. So you don't need to go to that extreme that, okay, I'm just going to leave everyone and I'm going to go on this thing. I believe that there are very few people that come to this planet to do that.
• 42:57
  Yeah. Maybe there are more than a few people, but very few people end up doing that. So I still believe that there is a place where you, where me, where all of us can do this, which is serving a high, let's call it, these people say higher purpose. Yeah. Which I think that they have to come up with this kind of distinction. You said sole purpose, higher purpose. Why? Because if not that people think that my purpose is to feed my dog. It's like,
• 43:25
  Well, no, that's a responsibility that I have. I assume that's a responsibility and I honor my commitment by doing that. But that's not why I came to this world, at least not me. Now, I'm sure that some people came literally to this world to save those or to do... That's when you are... To me, that is the expression of our soul or true self. It's when we are doing something that goes way beyond our ego, our identity.
• 43:54
  What do you think about the best way to find that for someone?
• 43:58
  I think that the step number one is to understand if this is a must or not for you. If you say, well, I heard the whole thing. Yeah, good. Then forget about it. Now, if someone says like, oh my gosh, I'm very interested. It's like, okay, great. Next question is, is this a must? Do I need to figure this out? Yes or no? Is this a must? Yes or no? And if the answer is yes, that's the first step. I think that that is going to already put you in a different place.
• 44:25
  And I think that there is a lot of... What I would say is what you have been doing through your life, you have been most likely choosing things that are connected, that are ways of expressing your purpose. Now, let's say that a person...
• 44:41
  You mentioned the example of this worker that was a prostitute. Okay. A person that literally had to do that for all their life. Maybe they did not have the opportunity because they were literally just taking care of survival. So I guess that if you are only taking care of your survival, first of all, not sure why you're watching us. Because if you're watching us, most likely you are not just taking care of survival.
• 45:06
  Even if the media is telling you and you regurgitate bullshit, it's like, oh, I just got inflation and this. Shut up. Shut up. You have a computer, you have an iPhone, you have a cell phone, you have internet. What are you talking about? So that means you have the opportunity to connect yourself with your higher purpose. So what I would say is just look back. Look back in all your life.
• 45:27
  What are the moments that you felt aligned, connected, rather than, oh, okay, I had this job and I didn't like it and I hated it. Okay, great. Let's talk about the things that you really liked. And then for other people is, let's talk about the things that you were incredible at, but you don't really liked it. Because, you know, me growing up, I like painting. Does that mean that my purpose is to be the next Michelangelo? Maybe not. Maybe yes. You know what's wild? I loved painting as a kid.
• 45:55
  What was the last time that you painted? I did a class, I hadn't painted in 20 years. And then I did a class, maybe 25. And then I did a class last year, two years ago. I can't remember. And it was really intimidating. And I want to do another one. It was cool. And I started painting with my kids and yeah, it was really neat.
• 46:13
  Yeah, so I think that, by the way, there's nothing wrong with things that you like, that you are expressing yourself or you are creating. That's great. I'm going even one level deeper, which is these moments where you feel in total alignment, that you feel connected. And if what I'm saying is the first time, it's like, I don't know, that's your ego talking. I understand. This is uncomfortable. Yeah, great stuff don't happen in comfortable situations. So I would start there. And I think that you will be able to find the pattern.
• 46:43
  I love what you just said. Great stuff doesn't happen in uncomfortable situations. Yeah. The ego wants to be comfortable. The ego wants to be left alone, eat garbage, do nothing. Or some people might say, well, it's not the ego, it's the reptilian brain. Yeah. Yeah. Just want to conserve energy, do nothing, just survive. Got it. All I'm saying is if you're watching this, you are past the level of survival.
• 47:07
  It's so funny. I was tracking that against at least the nonprofit high school household, which is whether or not it's a purpose, let's call it a mission. To me, that's a mission. To me, that's a vehicle. Yeah. Where you get to express some shape or form your purpose. I think it happens often.
• 47:24
  that it's something that was a struggle or was an uncomfortable situation someone faced, overcame, that can drive and create. And that was what happened for me. And it was actually even communicating about it that shined a light on it and helped open me up. And I wanna encourage anyone listening to think about, let's flip it. What are those things that you don't wanna tell anyone about, right? My dad was terrible. This happened to me as a kid. What are the darkest, darkest corners of your life? And those may be some of the greatest nuggets when you shine a light on them.
• 47:53
  And the truth is either one, they're probably doing a lot more damage in the subconscious than you realize. So just shining a light to depower them is great. Or second, they might be this golden nugget that you invest some energy, some light on, attention. And man, something beautiful grows from that. I had an example. This woman is in an upper-class family.
• 48:15
  And she's super involved with a nonprofit that helps single mothers get housing. And she looked at me and started crying about it and communicating how meaningful it was. Because at one point, she was that mother, single mother with kids with nowhere to go and no money. And this nonprofit changed her life. And she said when she shares that story, none of the current residents believe her.
• 48:39
  because you wouldn't based on where she is today. It's so far from that depiction, and that's what inspires her. And it was moving to hear that. Powerful to hear that example. And the last one I think of as another example of this was I just spent two and a half hours with maybe three hours with one of Charlie Kirk's closest friends, and fascinating to hear about...
• 49:05
  directly about what someone is like who is so focused on their purpose that they knowingly put their life in danger whether somebody thinks he's the greatest person in the world the worst person world that is fascinating that is so fascinating to see that this person that is willing to become a martyr so fascinating to hear this
• 49:26
  that perspective as well. Yeah, I think that the world would be a much better place if we put time and energy to figure this out, to figure out what is our higher purpose? Why did we come here? And then once we understand that, and it doesn't need to be perfect, but at least it needs to be ballpark, then figure out vehicles where you can express the purpose. We can express your purpose.
• 49:50
  That so energizing. And this is why all these people that I mentioned before, right? Let's just say Gandhi or Martin Luther King or Mandela or Jesus or Elon. And I'm not saying that Elon is Jesus, but you get the point. All these people seem to have infinite energy.
• 50:10
  They seem to have days that are not 24 hours, to have days that are 100 hours. How is that? I believe that it's because they are connected to their higher purpose. And that's the fuel that drives massive amount of energy. And this is why they are able to do and accomplish things that seemed from a different planet. And I think that that is available for all of us. That's my belief.
• 50:33
  So step one, I was saying, go into things you're suffering. You said uncomfortable situations. Great stuff doesn't happen except in uncomfortable situations. No, step one is make the decision. Do you want to realize your true potential in this lifetime? Yes or no? Is this a must for you? Yes or no? If the answer is no, then I don't know what you're doing watching us. Just move on. If the answer is yes, I definitely don't want to be 90 years old and then look back and be like,
• 50:58
  I did not really maxed out my true potential. I played at 60%. I played at 40%. I am not proud of what I have done in my life. That to me would be like the worst nightmare. So number one is make the decision. Do you want to realize your true potential in this lifetime? Yes or no? The answer is yes. Now we are talking.
• 51:19
  That makes sense as a number one. So what would number two be? Number two of what? Oh, the second step. The second step, I would say, take inventory of your life. Just go and start analyzing year by year, if you want. Win by win, loss by loss, analyze the energy behind it. So this is a superficial level, right?
• 51:37
  Yeah. Okay. Year one. Start understanding where are you being, do you feel pulled when you were doing this activity or that activity at this age or that age? Start thinking through each of the things that happen in your life to the present moment. And then you understand,
• 51:55
  I mean, nowadays we have AI, so this is wonderful because you can just talk everything with AI. So AI can help you find the pattern. There is a pattern through all the things that you did and you felt total alignment. You felt massive amount of energies. I'm not saying that this was easy. Nobody's saying that it's easy at all. I'm just saying the feeling of AI is great.
• 52:21
  and you feel that you are playing at a whole different level, that is the indication. And most likely there are more things connected to that. I didn't hear anything about the uncomfortable situation. Where does that, is that a different step? Or how would you see that tie into those kind of two or three steps? Remind me what you mean about the uncomfortable situation. You had a good comment for me that was great stuff doesn't happen without uncomfortable situations.
• 52:45
  What I mean with that is the following is that just this process of asking yourself, do I want to realize my true potential in this lifetime? Is this a must for me? Do I want? Forget about do I want. It's like, yeah, I want. Yeah, I know that you want. Are you willing to do whatever it takes for you to realize your true potential in this lifetime, for you to figure out and fulfill your true purpose in this life? Yes or no? Yes. If you say it's a must, it's like, great. Welcome to the journey. Because now you signed up to get to the top of that mountain.
• 53:13
  That's not going to be easy. That's not going to be, oh, this is the same as just eating chips and watching something in the sofa. That's easy to just do nothing. That's easy. At the end of the day, at the end of your life, it's going to be very painful, but that's easy to do.
• 53:29
  The easy path is never the right path. Never. Okay, let me play Billy. All right, I'm committing. I want to do the hard thing. We're going to do this. Life's going to be great. Take an inventory. What's happened in my life? Man, when I play guitar, I am in flow.
• 53:44
  Okay, great. I hate my job. I hate my girlfriend. How old are you, Billy? Like 29. You hate your girlfriend, okay. She's not, she just bosses me around. Okay. Okay. So, but let's just focus on the things that you feel in flow, okay? Hey, you just asked me about me, bro.
• 53:59
  I asked you about flow and then you flipped and I started talking about negatives. Look, I hate her. You get me? There's a lot of negative out here. Pablo, I'm dodging bullets and you don't get it. All right, Billy. There is a discount in the ice cream shop. You can go there. Just use the promo code Freedom Flip. Buy the ice cream truck, play my guitar while I roll around the streets. Done. No, okay. You said you're feeling flow when you play the guitar. Okay. What else? I haven't liked any job, hated school. No, that's not what I asked you. So stop with that.
• 54:28
  You said that you felt in flow when you were playing the guitar. Give me other examples in your life. 29 years, you felt in flow. That's a good question, Pablo. You know, I'm Billy and I feel like I've lived a hard life, but I did love things as a kid, like sports. Okay, sports. Great. That's the second one. Great. We can go into detail later. So what I'm doing right now is...
• 54:50
  Billy is blocked. I'm not sure that he really understands that he really wants this as a must in his life, but I'm just playing along. So he's so blocked that he just goes negative. So I'm like, shut up, shut up. Stop it because that part of Billy's brain is not helping him. So I'm just going only on the positive. I don't want to go deep right now about what was about the guitar, what was about...
• 55:09
  I'm trying to get some wins here. So, okay. Cessports, guitar, what else? Trying to date girls in high school. Great. What else? You know, I've seen my fair share of adult websites, pornography. But I asked you, I didn't ask you what did you enjoy. I asked you what did you feel in flow? Those were the words that you used when you mentioned about... I was flowing like you can't believe. You should have seen it. Things were literally flowing. All right, Billy. So...
• 55:34
  Right now, to me, that would be an indication that, okay, Billy is not ready for this conversation. And it's literally a waste of everyone's time because he's not taking it serious, right? But with a normal person, the person would be digging deep. This is why this is hard. What is the easy answer? To keep bitching around the bull that you always bitch around about everything. That's the easy thing. What is the difficult thing? Stop the pattern and start thinking deeply and start being honest with yourself and taking inventory. That's hard to do.
• 56:01
  And this is where flipping from Billy to Peter, I have a flip on number three. So how I heard you say it was kind of commit to finding your purpose, right? Be, go from subconscious to conscious. Step two, inventory your life, what you've experienced, learned, succeeded, failed, all of these. I think part of that inventory or the step three. I didn't say fail. Okay, you didn't say fail. I did. And this leads into my other point.
• 56:28
  I think flipping it from not just, and part of my response with being Billy is a lot of people associate hobbies or enjoyable activities with a purpose. This comes back to the getting sick and the original point, to me, suffering, right? On a deep level, whether it's Viktor Frankl at a World War II camp, right? The suffering he experienced helped him create an entirely new view of psychology in this log of therapy. The suffering that I experienced, which was nothing like his, which one one millionth or billionth,
• 56:56
  of some hard experience I had as a kid motivated me to start on this kind of mission or purpose in that direction. And I would say flip it and think about what are these things that were powerful experiences that may be power via suffering, that may be power via accomplishment.
• 57:13
  But often you want to shine a light on the suffering because those are the things, your family's history, your history, you know, those are the things that are interesting to dig on and find a potential list on this inventory process and why I included the word failures. I think that it's going to depend a lot on who are you talking with. So if you're talking with a person that
• 57:34
  has, is very young and has no visible winds, then maybe yes, in order to understand what is driving this person. There is something underneath driving this person. What is it? And maybe yes, let's go and connect with earlier memories, things that really marked their life, inflection points in their life.
• 57:54
  I think that is a different conversation with a person that is in their 30s or in their 40s. What's ironic on that was I think two of the most successful people alive today, Jeff Bezos, who created Amazon, Elon Musk, created a lot of businesses. Both of them, after having material success in a business, came back to their childhood passions.
• 58:13
  which was looking up in the stars to try and create space companies. And you mentioned this, right? But you mentioned it specifically for people that are younger and don't have the visible success. I think even with success, there's depth in childhood that we don't totally understand. And maybe that's because we're clear in our soul, in our vision, in our confidence, in our connection to our soul. Who knows? But I think youth is a fascinating place to dig on.
• 58:35
  whether it's negative experiences, positive experiences, empowering experiences, whatever that would be. And I think it's really interesting as you think about right now, because in the political sphere, it's this whole division. As somebody that's voted for both political parties for president, everyone hates me, right? So it's like, you must pick a side and you must hate the other side and listen to this news or this thing and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, in politics, it's because the power is fixed. Your revenue base as a government is kind of fixed.
• 59:02
  So you got a fixed pie of revenue you're going to dole out to sometimes make the country better, many times to pay off your buddies. And so that creates a fixed mindset of I've got to defame people. I've got to fight against the other side because there's a fixed revenue base, fixed everything. Whereas guys like Bezos, Musk, others.
• 59:18
  They are abundant in their view of what you said. My energy achieving my purpose of going to another planet or creating spacefaring civilization. I mean, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are serious about this. They're putting all their time, energy, everything into it. To me, it's very simple, the difference. One is connected to the ego and the other one is connected...
• 59:41
  to the world. There is a different me serving my self-interest and my body's interest, which is basically my own interests. That comes from an ego perspective rather than I am doing this because I believe that the people that I don't know need this thing and it's going to
• 1:00:04
  The ego is losing space in the movie and other people are gaining more airtime. So this is why for me, the purpose is very connected. It has to be connected with serving others beyond you and your extended nucleus. Just look at all the people that you can have as a reference. All the people that we mentioned here.
• 1:00:33
  My view would be similar to good and evil runs is a line that runs through every man's heart. It's kind of what you said earlier. Maybe today that's 5% of my heart. Maybe tomorrow that's 20%. I think it's a battle every day for us to keep what you said, the ego in a small part of the movie.
• 1:00:49
  And I say this because I mean it deep down in my core. I know it because I experience it, right? I don't want to be on social media. Guess what? I downloaded, you know, this app called YouTube. In the future, it was an app that you doom scroll on along with all the other ones. And I crushed like two, three days of a ton of YouTube stuff. And I felt terrible, right? Delete it again. It's gone, right? It was just, I was sick. Misery, woe is me. That has nothing to do with the app. It has to do with what you are watching inside of the app. So...
• 1:01:17
  It's true, but I think like nuclear energy, it can provide power for us at no cost or destroy us. I think things like these apps that exist today called social media that, yes, in the future, I know you guys are saying you're an idiot because we all know this is destroying you and creating division and hatred towards each other. Well, people don't believe that yet. So welcome to our life.
• 1:01:39
  I was on it feeling terrible for like three days while I'm just trying to get better. And I actually thought to myself, man, I can feel an energetic shift in a bad way that I'm not getting better as quickly as I would. I'm not overcoming the suffering because my vision's blurred, right? So my heart, right, between ego and non-ego was way shifted on the ego side, right? And I think it's important. I think it's when we say people aren't feeling that way, that creates the absolute
• 1:02:08
  that then makes me look in the mirror and say, but I do, right? Not all the time, not often. And without recognizing we all have a moment, we all have a day of weakness, right? That it's probabilities. What we want to do is create systems and processes and friends and community that come slap Peter across the face and say, dude, get off of that app, delete it, unfollow these, you know, whatever groups, you know, either try and create a system. If you can't create a system, just the system should be deleted. No app is better than is the best app.
• 1:02:37
  And that's what I would challenge as an idea. And I think it's good and evil things the same, right? Because it's lazy for me to say anyone that's bad is evil, right? Because then that's an absolute to say like, oh, you know, their heart's all bad. No, there's some part of their heart that's good. It just was overwhelmed. I love it, brother. All right. And that's a flip. What is this gay pistols? Cut. Cut.