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Iran War - Mixed Narratives and Tucker Carlson · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's 6 Eastern. It's 3 o'clock Pacific.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Speaker 5: We start this hour having to report another six American
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  Speaker 5: is in harm's way tonight. I'm Booker Scott. This is
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  Speaker 5: The Truth Be Told. As always on Monday, we are
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  Speaker 5: joined with Matt Palumbo here. Matt, it's Mondays with Matt,
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  Speaker 5: and welcome back. You missed last week. So glad to
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  Speaker 5: have you back.
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  Speaker 2: Very good to be back.
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  Speaker 5: How was Albania, by the way? You know, I got
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  Speaker 5: a text message. I get a text message from you
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  Speaker 5: that says I've been summoned to Albania.
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  Speaker 2: What did you say? You're like, that's the only time
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  Speaker 2: anyone's ever said that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no one has ever said I got summoned to
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  Speaker 5: Albania before. That's what I got from you. And anyway,
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  Speaker 5: welcome back to the country. And how was your trip?
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  Speaker 2: It was good. I mean, it was mainly just because
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  Speaker 2: of the book I'm writing about the country and their
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  Speaker 2: first president. So it was just related to that. So
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really get to do much exploring or anything.
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of went for walks when I had
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  Speaker 2: like a free hour here and there. But that was
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  Speaker 2: really all. But it was a lot of fun. I'll
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  Speaker 2: probably be back this summer with my family this time
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  Speaker 2: and get to explore more.
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  Speaker 5: I am glad to have you back. I flew solo
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  Speaker 5: last week. So let's get into it. We have a
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  Speaker 5: lot to talk about. You have the Iranian conflict, war,
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  Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it. It doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 5: the people on social media really understand what is going on.
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  Speaker 5: My son, he is about your age, and he keeps
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  Speaker 5: texting me, are we losing the war because of the
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  Speaker 5: social media that he sees? And I'm like, don't believe
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  Speaker 5: those lies, because that is not reality. Again, we have
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  Speaker 5: seen military precision taking place in Iran. We have decapitated
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  Speaker 5: the leadership. Not once, but twice, and maybe even got
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  Speaker 5: a third of the next guy. They said his leg
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  Speaker 5: was amputated. I don't think that was true. We don't
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  Speaker 5: know for sure. And then there was the rumor going
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  Speaker 5: around that Netanyahu had been killed. And I said, that's
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  Speaker 5: not true either. And then Netanyahu came out Sunday and said, no,
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  Speaker 5: I'm fine. I'm right here. So you have to be
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  Speaker 5: real careful in what you are taking in right now. Overall, though,
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  Speaker 5: I think the military is doing an incredible job here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we've killed their so-called supreme leader, who
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  Speaker 2: is ruling with an iron fist, and then basically all
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  Speaker 2: of his subsequent replacements, and now it's, I believe, his
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  Speaker 2: son in charge, but he released a statement today That
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  Speaker 2: was just a written statement. He hasn't been seen on
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  Speaker 2: camera or in public. So he clearly is living in fear,
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  Speaker 2: knowing it's very likely he's going to be killed the
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  Speaker 2: second he appears. So I don't think anyone on our
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  Speaker 2: side is in that situation. So if that was the
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  Speaker 2: only detail we knew and we had to say which
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  Speaker 2: side is winning, I would say the one where the
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  Speaker 2: side whose leader doesn't want to be seen in public
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  Speaker 2: is probably the losing side.
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  Speaker 5: I would think so, too. And he does not want
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  Speaker 5: to be seen. If I were him, I wouldn't want
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  Speaker 5: to be seen either because it would probably be the
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  Speaker 5: end of me. The big news over the weekend was
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  Speaker 5: the bombing of Karg, the island there that sits about
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  Speaker 5: 18 miles off the Iranian coast. They're near the Strait
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  Speaker 5: of Hormuz, which is another part of the story that
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  Speaker 5: we'll get into here in a few minutes. But this
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  Speaker 5: was strategic bombing of military bases there on that island.
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  Speaker 5: The island is very important, isn't.
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  Speaker 6: It, Matt?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yes. I believe it's about 20% or so of
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  Speaker 2: our oil and natural gas is traveling through there, of
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  Speaker 2: the world, rather.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's through the whore moves, the straight whore moves.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. And then also, I mean, even countries like China
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  Speaker 2: have a stake in keeping that open. Obviously, Iran is
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep it shut in retaliation, although I did
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  Speaker 2: see a statement recently where they claimed we're only shutting
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  Speaker 2: it for America and Israel. I don't know if they're
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  Speaker 2: actually going to enforce it that way, but I guess
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  Speaker 2: for oil prices, it would be– Technically preferable if only
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  Speaker 2: we were excluded. But, you know, I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: actually going to stand in that, you know, they can
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  Speaker 2: say that, but they also have to enforce it. And
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  Speaker 2: we have a Navy that Trump said or at least
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  Speaker 2: flow to the idea of the Navy escorting ships. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons we have a military as large
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  Speaker 2: as we have is to maintain security. You know, harmony
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  Speaker 2: on the seas to enforce trade routes and that kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing. It's a major benefit, probably the trillions of
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year that is kind of this unseen benefit
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  Speaker 2: of the military that a lot of people just don't
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  Speaker 2: even realize or forget about. I was researching the Strait
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  Speaker 2: of Hormuz. I'm trying to become an expert on it
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  Speaker 2: within a week. The question I wondered is, well, why
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  Speaker 2: don't we just take it over? The only video I
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  Speaker 2: found on YouTube trying to explain why we couldn't, I thought,
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  Speaker 2: failed to make the case. I mean, Iran's military and
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  Speaker 2: their capabilities are going down on a daily basis. They
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  Speaker 2: don't really have leadership. And We have the biggest military
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  Speaker 2: in the world by quite a large margin. The mildest
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  Speaker 2: solution would just be our military escorting ships through. The
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  Speaker 2: most radical would be us taking it over. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think it's going to be as
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  Speaker 2: big an issue as people think it is.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go back and visit that island, Karg, that was
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  Speaker 5: bombed over the weekend. Because 85-90% of the oil that
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  Speaker 5: Iran produces is done there. What Donald Trump and the U.S.
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  Speaker 5: military did was strategically bomb military assets of Iran there
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  Speaker 5: on that island. And they sent a message. They're saying,
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  Speaker 5: if we did that here, we can do this to
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  Speaker 5: your oil. We don't want to. We don't want to
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  Speaker 5: do that to your oil because, if you remember, Donald
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  Speaker 5: Trump got upset at Netanyahu in Israel last weekend when
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  Speaker 5: he bombed the refining facility there in Iran. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 5: doesn't really want to do that. But when it comes
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  Speaker 5: to CARG, so much of that oil, that 80%, 90%,
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  Speaker 5: is sent to Asian countries. And the main one is China.
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  Speaker 5: But there is also Japan, who is our ally. There's
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  Speaker 5: North Korea, who, by the way, was sending rockets again.
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  Speaker 5: We haven't heard anything from Rocket Man in a while.
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  Speaker 5: But suddenly he did about 10 missiles over the weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Karg is very important. And I have seen some talk on,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Fox and News Nation and other ones where
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  Speaker 5: these very, you know, smart generals are saying we should
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  Speaker 5: siege it. And then you have to wonder about the
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  Speaker 5: Marines in the expeditionary force that are on their way
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  Speaker 5: over there that will probably be there in a week.
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  Speaker 5: Is that the purpose of the Marines? Are they going
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  Speaker 5: to do that? And if they do, is that a
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  Speaker 5: good idea? I'm not so sure that it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, like, from a strategic, you know, perspective,
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  Speaker 2: whether that is a good idea. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 2: it'll be a successful mission, but the obvious question is,
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  Speaker 2: how many casualties are we willing to tolerate for that? And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I tend to err as close to zero
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  Speaker 2: as possible. I know that's not realistic, I'm being utopian, but,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when there are other alternatives, I would say that. Now,
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  Speaker 2: In the past, whenever Trump has placed ships near a country,
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  Speaker 2: it's been for the most obvious reason. I remember leading
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  Speaker 2: up to when we took Maduro, we had some ships
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  Speaker 2: on the coastline, and Trump was asked, why did you
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  Speaker 2: park them there? And he tells the interviewer, well, they
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  Speaker 2: have to be parked somewhere. And it was a hilarious
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  Speaker 2: answer because we all knew the real reason they were there,
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  Speaker 2: and that was interesting. seen in the future weeks. But
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  Speaker 2: it was the same with Iran. We sent our parking
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  Speaker 2: ships on the coast ahead of us taking out their
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  Speaker 2: so-called supreme leader. And the simplest explanation is the true one, usually,
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to, I guess, from sending ships to
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  Speaker 2: a certain area.
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  Speaker 5: I think everybody has to be careful in what they hear,
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  Speaker 5: what they believe when they hear things and when things
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  Speaker 5: are reported. There's a lot of artificial intelligence that's being
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  Speaker 5: used here. By the way, Iran hacked Stryker Medical, which
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  Speaker 5: has about 50,000 employees. They did that last Thursday. It
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  Speaker 5: has caused a lot of problems with that company. That's
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  Speaker 5: something we're going to have to watch for, as well
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  Speaker 5: as the couple of bombings that we'll talk about a
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  Speaker 5: little bit later that took place last weekend. Keep your
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  Speaker 5: head on a swivel out there, because it's a time
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  Speaker 5: now that some of those gotaways may come back and
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  Speaker 5: get us. or at least try to. Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 5: talking about negotiating, and he says that Iran wants a deal.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think that there is any validity to him
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  Speaker 5: saying that, or is there something else, another reason why
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump is saying that Iran wants a deal?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it is in Trump character for Trump
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  Speaker 2: that no matter what is happening, it's working out. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think in this case it actually is. As to
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  Speaker 2: whether or not they want a deal, I mean, their
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  Speaker 2: public persona or their public messaging does not really suggest that.
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  Speaker 2: It suggests a defiant Iran. But it is entirely possible
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  Speaker 2: that in private they are not completely delusional of the
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  Speaker 2: circumstances they're in. That being said, I was reading up
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  Speaker 2: on their new leader, the Ayatollah's son, You know, the
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  Speaker 2: one who will not be seen in public. And everything
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  Speaker 2: about him seems to be that he is more radical
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  Speaker 2: than his father was. He is um ultra conservative in
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  Speaker 2: you know i'm using conservative in in the context of
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  Speaker 2: um devotion to Islam. A literalist, I should say, might
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  Speaker 2: be a better word to use. But he's very radical
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  Speaker 2: in those regards. He is an ideologically motivated guy, and
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  Speaker 2: when your enemy is someone who believes that paradise awaits
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  Speaker 2: them if they fling out and die while trying to
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  Speaker 2: kill you, they are a harder opponent to reason with.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Let's go to the sound here. We're talking about
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump saying that Iran is Yeah, they want a deal.
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  Speaker 5: They want a deal. The Iran foreign minister was on
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  Speaker 5: Face the Nation over the weekend. Here is that exchange.
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  Speaker 4: President Trump said this weekend he is not ready to
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  Speaker 4: make a deal with Iran because the terms aren't good
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  Speaker 4: enough yet. His administration is saying this war could last
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  Speaker 4: another three and a half weeks or so. Has Iran
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  Speaker 4: asked for a ceasefire?
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  Speaker 8: No, we never asked for a ceasefire. And we have
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  Speaker 8: never asked even for negotiation. We are ready to defend
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  Speaker 8: ourselves as long as it takes. And this is what
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  Speaker 8: we have done so far. And we continue to do
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  Speaker 8: that until President Trump comes to the point that this
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  Speaker 8: is an illegal war with no victory. And, you know,
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  Speaker 8: there are, you know, people's being killed only because President
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  Speaker 8: Trump wants to have fun. This is what he has said.
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  Speaker 5: Have fun?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, this is what he said, that they are sinking,
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  Speaker 8: you know, ships and targeting different places because it is fun.
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  Speaker 8: And the Secretary of War has said that there is no.
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  Speaker 2: Uh no mercy.
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  Speaker 8: Uh and this is actually a war crime even even
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  Speaker 8: saying that is a war crime so this is a
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  Speaker 8: war this is a war of choice by president trump
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  Speaker 8: uh and in the united states and we are going
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  Speaker 8: to uh continue our self-defense.
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  Speaker 5: Until they can't and how close are they to that
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  Speaker 5: it seems like they're pretty close to the point of
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  Speaker 5: not being able to defend themselves Missiles are becoming less
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  Speaker 5: and less every day into Israel and into the other
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  Speaker 5: Gulf Arab nations. I think they're running out of ammunition, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: But literally and figuratively. I hadn't seen that clip, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad he didn't contradict what I was saying right beforehand. No,
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  Speaker 2: it was hilarious that even Margaret Brennan, I assume that
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  Speaker 2: was who was speaking, was shocked when he said he
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  Speaker 2: got bombed for fun. Like Trump was like, all right, guys,
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  Speaker 2: we're bored this Saturday. What are we going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Bomb Iran. Sounds good.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It will be hilarious if that's in the history books.
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  Speaker 2: That was the cause, was Trump and Hagsworth getting bored
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  Speaker 2: one weekend. Obviously it's not, but it is funny that
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  Speaker 2: he floated that as a reason.
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  Speaker 5: And like I said, don't believe anything that's coming out
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  Speaker 5: of Iran at all. Question everything that's coming out of
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  Speaker 5: the Pentagon and the United States of America. You have
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  Speaker 5: that right and you should.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was... I mean, they were killing tens
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  Speaker 2: of thousands of their people and blocking internet access so
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  Speaker 2: the information couldn't get out of the country leading up
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  Speaker 2: to this. So for them to claim like they're in
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  Speaker 2: any way concerned with the loss of human life is
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  Speaker 2: obviously laughable. I mean, they're killing their own civilians, so
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who they exactly do care about. And
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to it, and you were kind of
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  Speaker 2: hinting at this earlier about misinformation, like we have the
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  Speaker 2: fog of war plus AI now. And there are... A
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  Speaker 2: depressingly large number of people that have no antibodies or
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  Speaker 2: any detection or any ability to detect when something is AI.
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  Speaker 2: It's gotten to the point where I've seen people post
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  Speaker 2: video game footage and try to pass it off as
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  Speaker 2: actual war footage, and it was going viral. So it
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  Speaker 2: is sad to see how quickly a lot of misinformation
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  Speaker 2: is spreading here. But You are right. There are narratives
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  Speaker 2: that secretly Israel is cowering in response to the retaliation,
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  Speaker 2: or Netanyahu wasn't seen for a day, so therefore he
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  Speaker 2: must be dead. Just a lot of craziness. And most
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  Speaker 2: of the time, the rule is just give it a
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  Speaker 2: day or two, and the truth will usually reveal itself.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, let the dust settle. Just let the dust settle.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to jump on everything as soon as
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  Speaker 5: you hear about it. Use your discernment. And that brings
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  Speaker 5: me to the FCC and Chairman Carr, who is threatening
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  Speaker 5: networks and other media outlets for reporting fake news. What
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  Speaker 5: do you think about that? Because the left has come
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  Speaker 5: unglued about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it would have to be deliberately spreading
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  Speaker 2: fake news. And the reason I say deliberate is just because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there are... If you're reporting– let's just say
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  Speaker 2: you and I are recording 1,000 stories a year, just
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  Speaker 2: by random chance, there's going to be one or two
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  Speaker 2: that kind of fly under our radar where we spread
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  Speaker 2: misinformation that was later corrected or– appeared true at the
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  Speaker 2: time but turned out not to be. Even if we
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  Speaker 2: put in a good faith effort in every single story
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  Speaker 2: to verify, just by chance, one in so many you're
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  Speaker 2: going to miss or your BS meter just didn't go
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  Speaker 2: off that day. And it's going to be a total accident.
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  Speaker 2: And if you prosecute every single person who pushes a
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  Speaker 2: fake story, it really condenses the amount of reporting you're
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  Speaker 2: really going to see. That being said, You know, when
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  Speaker 2: it was stories like the Russia collusion hoax, you know, or.
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  Speaker 2: Them trying to debunk Hunter Biden's laptop, they clearly were
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  Speaker 2: knowingly lying. They clearly were acting in that face. They
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  Speaker 2: were deliberately soliciting the opinions of so-called experts to spread misinformation.
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  Speaker 2: So in those huge narratives that have dominated media cycles,
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  Speaker 2: I think there is a case to prosecute that or
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  Speaker 2: go after them because It required fake news and then
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  Speaker 2: fake news on top of fake news and then fake
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  Speaker 2: experts to give credibility to the prior fake news and
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  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. So, yeah, that's why I
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  Speaker 2: would say, you know, I think go after like the
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  Speaker 2: big guns there when it comes to that.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go to ABC News and let's go to James Longman.
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  Speaker 5: He reported from inside Iran because some of the information
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  Speaker 5: that we're not getting is how the Iranian people actually
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  Speaker 5: feel about what's going on, what America and Israel is
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  Speaker 5: doing in their country. 75% of the population of Iran,
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  Speaker 5: they don't want the regime. 25% of them are supportive
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  Speaker 5: of the regime. But 75% is a lot of 90 million.
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  Speaker 5: The only way that we're actually going to see regime
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  Speaker 5: change is from the inside, not from Donald Trump and
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  Speaker 5: not from Netanyahu. It's going to have to be from
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  Speaker 5: that 75% of the 90,000. So what are they saying?
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  Speaker 5: Because they have no internet. The regime shut down the
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  Speaker 5: internet as soon as this started. So we're not getting
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  Speaker 5: any information from there. But James Longman of ABC News,
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  Speaker 5: he did. And here is his report.
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  Speaker 7: It was around 1 a.m. And all the people in
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  Speaker 7: my neighborhood, they were screaming, they were shouting. And, you know,
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  Speaker 7: it was like a celebration. And everybody was shouting, and
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  Speaker 7: we were so happy.
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  Speaker 9: Those who sent messages have asked their names not be
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  Speaker 9: used and some voices altered for their safety. As war
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  Speaker 9: descended on Iran, the regime once again cut off Internet
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  Speaker 9: and communications across the country, controlling its people and silencing
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  Speaker 9: their messages of resilience.
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  Speaker 10: We check the news. We try to keep the connection
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  Speaker 10: to the satellite TVs and by the phone, although we
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  Speaker 10: are in a total blackout and the. The slightest connection
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  Speaker 10: that we have is very insecure. Everybody all around Tehran
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  Speaker 10: has heard and felt the wave and the sound of
• 18:16
  Speaker 10: explosion that was very big, very enormous, almost like an earthquake.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: But I can say the sound, it keeps us going.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: We are grateful for this opportunity. And we are waiting
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: for the day that we can go out to the
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: streets and get back our country.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: They're waiting for the day that they can go out
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: into the streets and get back their country. That has
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: been taken from them since 1979. And that's what a
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: lot of this is about, isn't it?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And, you know, when we say like one in four
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: support the regime, you also have to account for the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: fact that, you know, there are going to be people
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: who say they do because they think they're going to
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: get killed if they were to say otherwise or be
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: found out. So it's probably far less than that. The
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: country is... The public is far more secular than you
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: would expect in Islamic theocracy. There has been rebellion against
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the mandatory hijab in recent years. So this was all
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: a long time coming. And Trump has learned from the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: mistakes of the sort of neoconservative wing of our party
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: that has pushed regime change where we handpick people. a replacement,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and that oftentimes goes wrong for reasons that are foreseeable
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: or not foreseeable. Trump has learned from the mistakes that
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: we've made in Iraq and Afghanistan. In Venezuela, it seems
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: like he's going to let it be the same people
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: in charge, but we're going to be pulling the strings. And,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: you know, we might even let them rhetorically criticize Trump
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: in the U.S., but it's just kind of the same face.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: And Iran, he indicated that the, those who are protesting
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the streets should be the people who take over the government,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: which would be, you know, it would be, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: have some symbolic effect I should say, you know, it
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: would be, I've kind of had to phrase it. You
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: might have to cut this a little bit.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Well, let me just jump in here and help you
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: out a little bit because in order for a regime
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: change to take place, it's going to have to take
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: some ground troops. And it's not going to be American.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: It's not going to be Israeli. I believe it's going
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: to be the Kurds. I read over the weekend that
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: the Kurds are ready. They are waiting for Donald Trump
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: to say, yep, let's go ahead and do it. You
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: have to remember that the Kurds helped out in Iraq,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: and they were instrumental in that, and there are Kurds
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: within Iran, and you have to arm the people, those
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: people that you just heard there in that audio clip,
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: they have to be armed and enabled to do this
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: regime change. So that's what we'll wait on. I think
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: it's coming. We're going to tie together a few of
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: the things that you just did with Iran, Venezuela, and
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: into Cuba. We're going to do that here in just
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: a minute.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get back into what you were just talking about.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I think there is something to the way Donald Trump
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: did Venezuela. Everybody thought that he was going to go
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: in there and topple the government, and he didn't. He
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: kept the vice president, who was actually handpicked by Maduro,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: to take the place of him. And so far, that
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: seems to be working. I don't know that maybe she
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: has no choice but to work. As long as that's
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: the case, I think it's working. We look over to Cuba,
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: and it seems like Cuba is ready to topple. We
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: have talked about it, but it's been about a month
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: or so since we have. It seems like it's getting
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: really close. They have no energy there.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I saw a video on social media claiming to be
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: showing protesters setting the communist party headquarters on fire. Um,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: hopefully I'm not falling for AI about five minutes ago,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: but I, I, it, yeah, it does seem like that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: could be the next domino to fall. Um, And we've
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: been sort of hinting at that since Venezuela anyway. The
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: thing is, probably half the countries on the planet, we
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: could just take over within a week if we really
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: felt like it. So, you know, Cuba really does not
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: stand a chance at all. We're going to have a
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: bay of pigs in Beijing, but with competent people.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Well, I think you made a good point a few
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: minutes ago where I think Donald Trump has learned from
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: our history in the Middle East and other places that
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: that a true regime change by our picking and the
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: way we would like to do it, it just doesn't work.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: So here's Peter Doocy from Fox News. He's talking about
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: the connection between Maduro, Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran. Here is
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: this piece.
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: And based on what President Trump is saying tonight, it
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: would seem like it's only going to be a matter
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: of time before something big happens with Cuba. But something
• 25:14
  Speaker 12: else that we are seeing, every one sentence quote that
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: President Trump gives to a different outlet is the impact
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: that the success, of the Maduro raid in January had
• 25:26
  Speaker 12: on his worldview. Of course, this is a president who
• 25:28
  Speaker 12: became popular around the time of the 2016 primaries, criticizing
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: previous Republicans for getting entangled into long-running Middle Eastern wars.
• 25:38
  Speaker 12: But after being able to go into Venezuela, take the
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: leader out and then have a hand in what happens next.
• 25:45
  Speaker 12: The president seems very encouraged to try to replicate that
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: in places like Iran. That is why he is telling
• 25:50
  Speaker 12: Axios today the following. They are wasting their time. Khamenei's
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: son is a lightweight. I have to be involved in
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: the appointment, like with Delcy Rodriguez in Venezuela. And then
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: with this Cuba deal, situation. He says Cuba's going to
• 26:06
  Speaker 12: fall too. We cut off all oil, all money, or
• 26:10
  Speaker 12: we cut off everything coming in from Venezuela, which was
• 26:12
  Speaker 12: the sole source, and they want.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: To make a deal.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: And they also want to make a deal in Cuba.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: It's just a matter of time. Here's my question coming
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: out of that piece and our conversation here on Donald
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Trump going for regime changes that some people call it
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: that in Venezuela, Cuba, and also right now in Iran.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Do you think Venezuela emboldened Donald Trump to make the
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: move in Iran and then will also in Cuba?
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Well, yes.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Venezuela mission was so successful, it almost
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: sounds funny to describe it. Because it's like, all right,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: so here's what we did. We had to capture a
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: foreign president. So we showed up at his house, picked
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: him up, and then nuked his predecessor's grave for the
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: hell of it. The end. I don't know how it
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: could have possibly gone any better.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: It couldn't have. And I think it did embolden him
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: to do these things. And in some ways, it's taking
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: his eye off the domestic things that need to be
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: worked on going into a midterm coming up this year.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: It's going to be very interesting. I think this war
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: has to end, this conflict or whatever you want to
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: call it in Iran. It needs to end pretty quickly.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: They are saying four to five weeks from the start
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: of it. Who knows? Here's Pete Hexeth on Hormuz, on
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: the Strait of Hormuz. We were talking about it earlier.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Here's a little more. on that with Secretary of War
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Pete Hegsout.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: You have said that the US military is essentially aerial superiority,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: naval superiority over Iran, yet we're not escorting ships to
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: the Strait of Hormuz.
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: Why?
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: How did you not plan for this?
• 27:46
  Speaker 13: We planned for it. We recognize it because ultimately we
• 27:52
  Speaker 13: want to do it sequentially in a way that makes
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: the most sense for what we want to achieve and
• 27:56
  Speaker 13: ensure that we're sending the right signals to the world
• 27:59
  Speaker 13: when we do so.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: So when Chris Wright.
• 28:01
  Speaker 13: Speaks or we speak, it's based on a full assessment
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: of what we're up against, what we want to say
• 28:06
  Speaker 13: to the world, how we want them to see and
• 28:08
  Speaker 13: understand the conflict.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: It's like this whole idea of the war widening. That's
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: what the press.
• 28:12
  Speaker 13: Wants to make it look like, like it's widening and chaos. No,
• 28:15
  Speaker 13: we're actually closing in on grabbing hold of and controlling
• 28:20
  Speaker 13: what objectives we.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Want to achieve and how we want to achieve them.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: And Matt, I think that's an important point right there.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Because you see this in the mainstream media, you see
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: this on the left, that we didn't have any plans
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: for the Strait of Hormuz, we didn't think about it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Of course they thought about it. I saw General Kellogg
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: on TV. March 5th on Fox News on the Will
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Cain Show, he was talking about that Karg Island that
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: we talked about earlier in the hour. They obviously have
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: thought about it, but I think it's important for people
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: to hear what he just said there, that we are
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: messaging a certain way, we're doing things a certain way,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: the way that we want to do them, because I
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: think a lot of people are missing that point.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good, and you can even tell the...
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: The reporter, at least from the sound of what you played,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: did seem like he was trying to be argumentative with
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Hegseth in the way he was presenting it. So I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: was satisfied to see him shut him down and say, no,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: of course we thought of this.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's finish up with this clip. Here is Pete Hegseth.
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: It's called shaping operations and setting the conditions. But when
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: you shape the environment, you don't always tell. I mean,
• 29:25
  Speaker 13: foolish political leaders and foolish military leaders of the past
• 29:28
  Speaker 13: will hang an exact deadline on it. Or here's exactly
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: when we'll do what we're going to do.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Or here's how long it's going to take us.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: And then if you meet that, maybe you meet it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: But if you don't, you fail. And if you're far beyond,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: we know exactly when.
• 29:40
  Speaker 13: What we're shaping and why. We're sending those signals working
• 29:42
  Speaker 13: across the interagency. The Strait of Hormuz is something we've
• 29:45
  Speaker 13: paid attention to from the beginning. And the American people
• 29:48
  Speaker 13: can rest assured we will ensure that our interests are advanced.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: So they knew about the Strait of Hormuz from the beginning. Obviously,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: they knew about it. But that's another one of those
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: things that the left is trying to do that's trying
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: to change a narrative and make people feel like things
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: aren't going so well in Iran.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. And, you know, just despite the fact
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: that I do think things are going well, it is
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: in our best interest to try to wrap this up
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: as soon as possible. The polling seems to indicate it's
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Republicans are on board, but independents are wary of it. And,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you know, when we voted for Trump, obviously we wanted
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: to minimize foreign entanglements. I am glad that the ones
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: that are happening, though, haven't. You know, it had been
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: going pretty well.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Well, if Donald Trump didn't do it, they probably would
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: have never been done. And all three of them should
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: have been done.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: It's one of those things, too, where you have to
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: consider the counterfactual, where if we did nothing now, well,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: it may require even more intervention down the road.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Or they would never do it. I mean, Biden and Obama,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: you know, they were appeasing Iran for all of those years.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: They had no intentions of ever doing what Donald Trump
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: is doing right now. And it needed to be done
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: for the world.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, better to do it now than,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: you know, to prevent them from having a nuclear bomb
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: and to wait for them to have it and they
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: have to navigate that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Are you keeping up with Tucker Carlson and what's going on?
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, the man has lost it, man.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Is it something else?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: When Tucker got kicked off Fox, my first thought was, well,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: this is going to be cool because he's going to
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: start his own thing and he's going to do all
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: this cool reporting that Fox and the mainstream media wouldn't
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: let him do. And it turns out those stories are
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: just like schizophrenic nonsense for state media. It's really sad
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to see. And I know Gregory Reeve was the guy
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: who wrote... all of Tucker's monologues. And I think we
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: just like Greg the whole time. I don't know if
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: it was really Tucker. It seems like Tucker's either lost
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the plot. The only alternative... is that Tucker is some
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: sort of double agent where he's pretending to be friendly
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: with these third world regimes, but he's just collecting dirt
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: on them for our administration. But I don't know. It
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: is very sad to see. He's just kind of gone
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: into every conspiracy avenue. He even did a 9-11 truth
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: thing recently. It's every little conspiracy he's diving into, and
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: it's sad to see.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: And he said over the weekend that the CIA is
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: reading his text messages online. Yeah, he's nuts at this point.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's collecting dirt, though, Matt. I think
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: he's collecting big paychecks from Conor.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Correct. No, I was going to have joking that people
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: were saying, like, you know, he.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: People were saying Trump had invited him to the White House,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: and he's been in those circles recently, and they were
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: joking like maybe they were feeding him fake information and
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Iran to spread with them so that our military operations
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: would be more successful. It was a tongue-in-cheek, but that
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: was the gist of it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Well, it sounds like Trump has done away with Tucker
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Carlson now, as well as Marjorie Taylor Greene.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I do believe that the CIA probably was looking into
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: his messages because there are– there is probably a case
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: for him– that he probably should have registered for FARA,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Whereas if you are advancing
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: a foreign interest knowingly in the U.S., which he is
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: with a lot of these people, it is something you
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: have to register for. The only way really he could
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: get around it is, and this is what he probably
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: will argue, is I'm just a journalist letting people speak.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what he's already done. He's already said that.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: But normally it's not like the kind of thing you
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: go to jail for because Ron DeSantis is– I can't
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: remember her exact role within his administration. Her name is
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Kristina Pushaw. But before working for DeSantis, she had done
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: some consulting work for the president of Georgia, the country.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And this was not– there was no attempt to hide it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: It was work she had done publicly. But a few
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: years ago, I think the DOJ contacted her and told her, hey,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: you've got to register for FARA. And it was just–
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: they met with her. She then paid whatever the fee is.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's a couple hundred bucks. She registered. And
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that was it. So it's one of those crimes where
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: they kind of just give you the chance to register
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: after the fact, and that clears it up. So if
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: he does get a meeting with the DOJ, it's probably
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: just going to be, hey, you've got to disclose this
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: or else. But it's not like they're going to come
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: in guns blazing and arrest him, at least– It wouldn't
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: really make much sense. Plus, I don't think Trump would
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: let that happen for obvious reasons.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Well, let me go through Tucker Carlson's history, and you
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: can follow the money here just like I did. MSNBC, CNN, Fox,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: and now Cotter. He says whatever someone is paying him
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: to say. Does that make sense? Here's Pete Hexeth in
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: one of those press conferences where he was asked about
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Tucker Carlson. Here's Pete Hexeth.
• 34:53
  Speaker 15: In parts of the party, particularly from your fellow Fox
• 34:55
  Speaker 15: News alum, Tucker Carlson, he called the war disgusting and
• 34:58
  Speaker 15: evil and then said of unconditional surrender, which the president
• 35:02
  Speaker 15: has called for, means foreign troops get to rape your
• 35:04
  Speaker 15: wives and daughters. Have you heard these comments and what's
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: your reaction to them?
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: We're busy executing on behalf of great patriotic Americans with
• 35:12
  Speaker 13: a clear mission that's 47 years overdue. We're going to
• 35:15
  Speaker 13: execute on that regardless of what people say about it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Hexeth did a good job there of skirting around that
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: and not bringing in any more attention to it. However,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: the words there that Tucker Carlson talked about, he is
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: talking about American troops raping in Iran. That's how far
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: he has gone.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I assumed he meant them doing that retaliation to us.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is insane. Well, the Department of Homeland Security
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: is not working because, well, there's a government shutdown. Did
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: you forget about that? It's been going on for weeks now.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Federal employees missed their first paycheck last Friday, and we
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: had some bad things happen last week. We had a
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: couple of them on the same day. It happened on Thursday.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: one at Old Dominion University in Virginia, the other one
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: at a synagogue in Michigan, West Bloomfield. Let's go to
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: some sound and get some background on both of these
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: stories here.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: 1220, Gonzales' vehicle gets jammed between hallway walls, and he
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: begins firing through the windshield of his vehicle. Gonzales and
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: the first security officer engage in a gunfight through the
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: rear window of Gonzales' vehicle. And at this point, Gonzales
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: is unable to extract himself. due to the vehicle being
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: jammed in the hallway. At approximately 12.22 p.m., a second
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: security officer engages Gonzales in a gunfight from the front
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: of the vehicle. And soon thereafter, Gonzales' vehicle, his engine compartment,
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: catches on fire, and at some point during the gunfight,
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: Gonzales suffers a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: And that was the one in Michigan. Yeah, and this guy,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: his name is, his first name is Muhammad, by the way.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: So is the guy at Old Dominion University. What are
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: the odds that a guy named Muhammad, with a car
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: full of explosives, drives into a synagogue to kill 100
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: kids in pre-K? After millions of gotaways came into this country. Matt,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: we talked about it years ago. We've been doing this
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: together over two years now, weekly. And we actually go
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: back almost three years. But we have been talking about
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: this the entire time that Joe Biden was president, that
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: these things were going to happen. And they are happening now.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: And so now we have a couple of Mohammeds that
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: have come in and done exactly what we said would.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: And it's not a big story for those of us
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: that have paid attention to the last four or five
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: years under Joe Biden with millions of these people coming
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: into this country.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: And then within, I believe it was within a week
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: of those two, there was the case where that guy,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I think Jake Lang is his name. He's like a,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, the term far right actually is accurate in
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: this context to describe him. But he's like a provocateur,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: very anti-Islam.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Jake has been on this show a few times. Four times,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I believe. Three times from the D.C. gulag when he
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: was there as a J6 prisoner. And he actually text
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: messaged me and wanted to come on the show the
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: week that happened. I stayed away from it. I didn't
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: do it. I did not do that interview.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting. But yeah, it was a scene out of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where this liberal is doing
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: a speech in front of him about how everyone is
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: welcome here, and then some Muslim jumps up on him
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: and throws a bomb over him. And fortunately, it didn't
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: go off. But we had three Islamic terror attacks in
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: basically a week, week and a half, and we only
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: lost one life. So they're sending us the worst terrorists, fortunately.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: But still, there's got to be so many more in
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the country. And the one that attacked Jake Lang, I think,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: was based in Pennsylvania. So we have ISIS cells in Pennsylvania,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: which is insane.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: And one of those that happened last Thursday, his brother
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: was killed. He is a member of Hezbollah. He was
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: killed by Israel in Lebanon. So there's the connection there.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: The point of all of this is keep your head
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: on a swivel out there. Be careful. Pay attention to things.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: A couple of more things here I want to get
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: onto before we get to the break about Iran, and
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: that is the cost of gas. I noticed that gas
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: here in Florida went from 275 280 to 375 almost
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: overnight which to me it seems ridiculous because i have
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: done research on this before from the ground to your
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: gas tank takes six weeks so in in a war
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: from uh a ground to your gas tank takes about
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: three days I think they're gouging us here, but let's
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: go to Chris Wright.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: It could be.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he is the Energy Secretary. He was on the
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: weekend shows on Sunday. I believe this was Face the Nation.
• 39:52
  Speaker 14: How long should Americans expect for gas prices to be high?
• 39:56
  Speaker 14: Are we talking weeks?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Are we talking months? I just don't know at this point.
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that this conflict will certainly come to
• 40:02
  Speaker 14: the end in the next few weeks. Could be sooner
• 40:05
  Speaker 14: than that, but the conflict will come to the end
• 40:07
  Speaker 14: in the next few weeks and we'll see a rebound
• 40:10
  Speaker 14: in supplies and a pushing down of prices after that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 14: But yes, we were very aware, very aware that we
• 40:17
  Speaker 14: would have short-term disruption. We would cause a little bit
• 40:22
  Speaker 14: of increased prices on Americans. Prices today are still far
• 40:26
  Speaker 14: below what they were in the Biden administration. where they
• 40:29
  Speaker 14: were begging, bartering, and bribing Iran.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: To behave better.
• 40:34
  Speaker 14: We had $ 5 gasoline in the middle of the Biden administration.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that this is a good point
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: he's trying to make. I get what he's trying to say,
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: and he's right. It was $ 5 with Joe Biden at
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: the height of that. Donald Trump, he campaigned on bringing
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: the prices down. And just because they're a little bit
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: less than they were when Joe Biden is, that's not
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: a good reason. And people are going to lose the
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: will to continue what's going on in Iran unless it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: over quickly. I believe that it will end pretty quickly, though.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's why it has to end soon, because
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the more consequences for someone's day-to-day life, the more against
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: that they're going to be. And yes, they're not going
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: to view it in context of, well, gas just went up,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: but thank God it's lower than it was two years ago.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: It's going to be in the context of, what was
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: it a week prior? That's how we view things. We're
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: very short-term thinkers, unfortunately. But the thing is, too, though,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: when the price is artificially high because of a decision
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that we made, you also then can't blame your predecessor.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: The good news is I think this is just going
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: to be a short-term spike anyway, and it'll probably be
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: well worth the cost, but it should not be something
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: we draw out at all.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Let's listen to Kevin Hazett. He is part of the
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Trump administration, and he also was talking over the weekend.
• 41:46
  Speaker 16: I wanted to just say that the countries around them,
• 41:48
  Speaker 16: they also suffer from the risk of having them go
• 41:51
  Speaker 16: nuts and attack them. And so we expect that the
• 41:54
  Speaker 16: global economy is going to have a big positive shock
• 41:56
  Speaker 16: as soon as this is over. And we're still being
• 41:58
  Speaker 16: briefed that it would be four to six weeks from
• 42:00
  Speaker 16: the beginning and that we're ahead of schedule.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: A big positive shock, four to six weeks. So this
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: is an April 9th scenario you're talking about. You're going
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: to see some kind of boost.
• 42:10
  Speaker 16: The president will decide if they no longer have the
• 42:14
  Speaker 16: capability of blackmailing us and harming our neighbors. And once
• 42:19
  Speaker 16: he decides that, then he'll call an end to the war.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: That's a pretty broad definition.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Well, we've destroyed their Navy. We've destroyed their Air Force
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: and so on. So I think we're well on the way.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: The media just needs an answer, don't they? They want, okay,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: so this is all going to be over April 9th. Well,
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: nobody can answer that question. Have some patience. Let the
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: military do what they're doing. Allow the President of the
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: United States to make the decisions, and let's let this happen.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Be patient with it.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: My favorite exchange was, it was months ago, I think,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: when Trump was asked, like, The reporter is very specific, like,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: what's your plan for Iran, but was asking for, like,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: extreme specifics. And he just goes, well, I wouldn't tell you.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: I remember that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: And that's pretty much the answer. Like, the whole world
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: is watching everything he says. We're not going to telegraph anything.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: In fact, if Trump were ever going to publicly say
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: his plan, he would have to lie and say something
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: else to throw them off.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: We have more of this conversation coming up in just
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: a minute. Stay with us.
• 43:18
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• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Well, Matt, we ran a little longer on that segment,
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: but we still have some time to cover some ground here.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: We're going to leave Iran behind us now. We're going
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: to talk about the SAVE Act a little bit. It
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: looks like the SAVE Act is going to come for
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: a vote at the Senate this week. What do you think?
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: How are they going to do it? It doesn't sound
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: like maybe the standing filibuster, talking filibuster is going to
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: be the way to do it. What do you think?
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Well, we don't have Fetterman's vote. We don't have Lisa
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Murkowski's vote. So we don't even have all Republicans on board.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: We don't have the one Democrat who might defect, or
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: at least the one who is the most likely to
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: vote for that kind of thing. So it looks like
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: it's not going to go anywhere, unfortunately. I mean, it
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: puts Democrats on record, but I don't really know what
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: difference that's going to make.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: I wrote an article last week about the SAVE Act
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: and how really when you look at the SAVE Act
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: and look at the poll numbers across the line, Democrat
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: and Republican, 80, 83 percent of the American people, they
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: want voter ID. They want people to be an American
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: citizen to make a decision when they go in and
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: vote in a poll. And we have our Congress that
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: is defying the will of the people. And when you
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: have done that, they've run a dagger. of death through
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: the heart of this republic. That's my opinion. That's what
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: they're doing. They're no longer representing the Americans' wishes at
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: this point. They're doing whatever the hell they want to.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and, you know, they're always telling us, oh, voter fraud,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: there's only 30 cases a year in federal elections that have,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: you know, 100 million votes. And I'm thinking, well, then
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: why do you care? Like, then what's the big deal here? Like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: you know, listen, I know that there are You know,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: the estimates on voter fraud vary so much depending on
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: who you're looking at. But it has to be way
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: more than they're saying or else we just say, OK,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: let's pass the SAVE Act and nothing's going to happen
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: in the elections because voter fraud is a myth. And look,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: you guys are idiots the whole time and we're going
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: to keep beating you, you know, even with it.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: But even having Republicans against this, and you do.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Obviously, they reject, given they overwhelmingly support this. But those
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: are demographics that really aren't constituencies in Alaska. So it's
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: just her comment made no sense there. And it is interesting, too,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: that— It is a media onslaught, the narrative that the
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: SAVE Act is going to disenfranchise people. They're now claiming
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: that married women won't be able to vote. It's getting
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: increasingly hysterical by the day who they're claiming it'll disenfranchise.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: And basically, no one believes it if you look at
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: the polling, which is very rare. The media is usually
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: very good at brainwashing people. This is one of those
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: lies that is so obviously not true that no one's
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: buying it.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: No one. It's 83%, 84%. I think it's over 90%
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: for Republicans. And Democrats are even above 70%. This is
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: a no-brainer, but yet it can't get through Congress. Let's
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: listen to the minority leader on the Senate side, Chuck Schumer,
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: the Democrat from New York. There might be some information
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: in here that may make it all make sense.
• 47:42
  Speaker 17: It's about voter registration. It allows ICE to kick tens
• 47:50
  Speaker 17: of billions of people off the rolls.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: Whoa. What does that mean? Tens of millions of people
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: off the rolls? Why would ICE be doing that? You
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: have any idea, Matt?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I wonder what could possibly be it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer just said that. He said it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: In the roles in the first place. And you notice, too,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: like when he says tens of millions could be kicked
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: off the rolls. I mean, in theory, they could all
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: be Republicans, right?
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Well, obviously, he knows that they're not. So he has
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: some inside information there that it would be people kicked
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: off that are to the benefit of the Democrats.
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: And I live in New Jersey, unfortunately, where it's a
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: state where when you get your driver's license, you are
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: automatically registered to vote. This is very common in a
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: lot of states.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Florida is the same way. That's where I am.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we, for some reason, allow illegal aliens to
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: get driver's licenses here. So, I mean, it's pretty easy
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: to put two and two together, that when you have
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: illegals getting driver's licenses, they're also going to get registered
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: to vote. And even if there is supposed to be
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: some sort of oversight to prevent that, we're working with
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: government bureaucracy here, and we're working with governments that benefit
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: from having illegals registered to vote. So, yeah.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Let me keep going with Chuck Schumer. Here's a little
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: more of that. Off the Rolls.
• 49:12
  Speaker 17: And they don't tell them until election day. And you
• 49:15
  Speaker 17: show up and you say, you're not registered anymore. You're
• 49:18
  Speaker 17: not registered here.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: You're not.
• 49:20
  Speaker 17: On the rolls. And they say, I didn't know that.
• 49:23
  Speaker 17: This is a bill that destroys the country, and it
• 49:26
  Speaker 17: is not about showing ID when you show up to vote.
• 49:29
  Speaker 17: It's about the voter registration rolls, destroying them, purging them,
• 49:34
  Speaker 17: not letting people know, and taking the rights in a
• 49:38
  Speaker 17: algorithm put together by.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, he doesn't know what he's talking about at this point,
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: and cleaning up the voter rolls, that should be the
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: most important thing that we do. That's the only thing
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: that we do as Americans. It's the only voice we
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: have is to choose our representation, and of course, as
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: I said a few minutes ago, these guys in D.C.,
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: they no longer represent us anyway if you can't pass
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: the SAVE Act. But it's interesting there what Chuck Schumer
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: had to say about I just think the Democrats are
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: lost completely in their messaging on this, and they're lost in,
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: you know, their ideology on this.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just no defense. What can you do without
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: an ID nowadays in the modern world? It's like trying
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: to get by without a cell phone. It's just not
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: really possible anymore. You need it for, I want to
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: see a movie, to rent a car, to get a
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: hotel room, to buy alcohol. You need an ID for
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: basically everything. So why would voting be the one thing
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: you don't need one for? And even if you don't
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: have a license, you can get other forms of photo ID.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: There's just so many options to get one. It's unbelievable
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: to me that There is millions of people that cannot
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: take an hour out of their day to get one.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, Matt. And it is going to come
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: for a vote. It's going to come this week. And
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure how they're going to do it. There
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: was talk of the nuking the filibuster, which I think
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: is the dumbest idea in American political history. Yeah, it
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: surely is. And then the standing talking filibuster, I would
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: love to see that. I would love to see that,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: and I think that it could pass if that was done.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: But evidently, John Thune, the majority leader in the Senate...
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: He can't even get enough Republicans to go along with that.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Mike Lee put a video out over the weekend, and
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: he says they have maybe a hybrid idea. So we'll
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: have to wait and see this week what happens. Go ahead, Matt.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Well, my understanding with the talking filibuster is that it
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: might be difficult to have enough people there for a quorum,
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  Speaker 2: and that if Democrats didn't show up I think it
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  Speaker 2: was like if only one or two Republicans left, it
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  Speaker 2: would collapse the session. But I might be incorrect about it.
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  Speaker 2: You probably know more than me on that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know what? I would love to see the
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  Speaker 5: Senate do away with cloture. I would love to see
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  Speaker 5: them do away with that and change the rule back
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  Speaker 5: where you actually had to filibuster. The way it's supposed
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  Speaker 5: to work is when you bring a bill to the
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  Speaker 5: Senate floor the way it used to work 100 years
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  Speaker 5: ago back to 1917, that started the clock. And the
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  Speaker 5: debate continued until everybody had had their say in And
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  Speaker 5: no one else had anything else to debate. And at
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  Speaker 5: that point, you voted for the bill. What cloture did
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  Speaker 5: in 1917 was allow them to put the motion on
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  Speaker 5: the table. So once a bill is introduced, it can
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  Speaker 5: put it over to the side. You don't have to
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  Speaker 5: debate it. and then they change the rules in seventy
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  Speaker 5: five where you don't even have to do a foot
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  Speaker 5: will filibuster anymore you can just say we're gonna filibuster
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  Speaker 5: and then that's good enough so if i did those
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  Speaker 5: two things if they went back to the real filibuster
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  Speaker 5: they got rid of closure we might see the senate
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  Speaker 5: actually do something here is senate uh... leader majority leader
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  Speaker 5: john food.
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  Speaker 2: Side resistance.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have the votes either to proceed, get on
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  Speaker 3: a talking filibuster, nor to sustain one if we got
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  Speaker 3: on it. But that is just a function of math.
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  Speaker 3: And there isn't anything I can do about that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I understand the president's got a passion to see this
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  Speaker 3: issue addressed, as.
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  Speaker 5: We all do. Does he understand that, though?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we've conveyed that to him, but we'll continue to
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  Speaker 3: make that argument because I think it's important that everybody
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  Speaker 3: understand that this really is about It's about the votes.
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  Speaker 5: It's about the math.
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  Speaker 3: And for better or worse, I'm the one who has
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  Speaker 3: to be the clear-eyed realist about what we can achieve here.
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  Speaker 3: And so we'll continue to convey that. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that we're going to have the fight on the floor.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to vote on this. We're going to put
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  Speaker 3: it out. And we'll give the Democrats the opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: cast their vote on whether or not they think noncitizens
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  Speaker 3: ought to vote in American elections.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Matt, you and I have been talking about this
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  Speaker 5: on this program for almost two years. It was in
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  Speaker 5: April of 2024 that Speaker Mike Johnson, he went to Mar-a-Lago.
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  Speaker 5: He and then-candidate Donald Trump, from a podium, they told
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  Speaker 5: everybody what the SAVE Act was. At that time, I
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  Speaker 5: said this will never pass the Senate. In May of 2024,
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  Speaker 5: I said it on the show, I think with you,
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  Speaker 5: that it was never going to pass. It was meant
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  Speaker 5: for political messaging going into the 2024 elections. That was
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  Speaker 5: a big thing for Republicans and conservatives. So it gave
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  Speaker 5: the energy to the base and energized them to go vote.
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  Speaker 5: And now we are here and it's not happening. And
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  Speaker 5: I think it's almost having the reverse effect. for the
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  Speaker 5: Republicans and the base of Donald Trump. People are frustrated
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  Speaker 5: over this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem with trying to mobilize people around
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  Speaker 2: this is if it fails, I mean, okay, yes, you
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: have the narrative of Democrats don't care about free elections,
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  Speaker 2: but that narrative is not going to get disseminated through
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  Speaker 2: the mainstream media. It's only going to be through right-wing media.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have a base that's saying, well, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm going to go vote in a fraudulent election
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  Speaker 2: that millions of illegals are in. Is that a motivating message?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't really think it is.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't either. Well, Matt, we are to the
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  Speaker 5: end of our hour. We've covered some ground here. What
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  Speaker 5: do we look for this week other than the SAVE Act?
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  Speaker 5: What else is on the agenda?
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's probably the lazy answer, but a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the things we talked about, the updates from the
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  Speaker 2: straight-up Hormuz mess situation, and then also what's next with Cuba.
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  Speaker 5: Let me run this by you, too, because this is
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: a story I kind of wanted to ask you about.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that you've heard about this, but a
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: woman was convicted of killing her husband with a two-by-four.
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  Speaker 5: And she is up for parole for the first time
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  Speaker 5: after 25 years. Now, this guy was a big Texas
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  Speaker 5: real estate broker at the time. And in the middle
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  Speaker 5: of his sleep, she just went to his head with
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  Speaker 5: a two-by-four. And do you think she should be paroled?
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  Speaker 5: She is 75 years old now. What do you think?
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 5: This happened in June 2002. No. So the.
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  Speaker 2: Context is just she murdered someone out of the blue
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  Speaker 2: with no justification?
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  Speaker 5: Premeditated, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, then no way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was asleep. She took a two-by-four out of
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  Speaker 5: the garage and went to work on his head, and
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  Speaker 5: he died.
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  Speaker 2: That's insane. No, no, of course not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, be careful.
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  Speaker 2: Is that like a trick question?
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  Speaker 5: You're trying to get me to... No, I know you're
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: a honeymoon. Just keep it in mind. Walk a straight line.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, okay. All right.
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  Speaker 2: You're trying to explain that.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, man. Have a great week. I'll sleep with one
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  Speaker 5: eye open.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, please.
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  Speaker 7: Always.
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  Speaker 5: Do you remember Lorena Bobbitt? Never mind. Have a good week.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I know exactly who that is.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: And don't forget that you were told 2,000 years ago
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: that you are the salt of the earth. And salt
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: without flavor, it has no value. So whatever you do...
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Keep being salty. Have a great night.
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