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New Search for Kristen Smart |Crime Alert Saturday Recap 05.08.26 · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Alert hourly update, breaking crime news Now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Sidney Silvanni. We're following what is hopefully a major
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  Speaker 2: development in a cold case that has gripped the central
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  Speaker 2: coast of California for nearly three decades. Investigators in San
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  Speaker 2: Luis Obispo County have returned to a familiar location in
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  Speaker 2: the ongoing search for the remains of Kristin Smart. On Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: Sheriff's deputies executed a fresh search warrant at a home
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  Speaker 2: on East Branch Street in a royal grande. This isn't
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  Speaker 2: just any property. Public records confirm. It's the residence of
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  Speaker 2: Susan Flores, the mother of Paul Flores, the man convicted
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  Speaker 2: just two years ago of murdering Kristin. News of the
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  Speaker 2: raid was first broken by the Your Own Backyard podcast,
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  Speaker 2: The investigative series many credit with reviving interest in the case.
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  Speaker 2: The podcast creator Chris Lambert noted that this kind of
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  Speaker 2: activity after a conviction suggests that investigators have stumbled upon
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  Speaker 2: significant new information.
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  Speaker 3: It's a surprise. It's been, you know, three years since
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  Speaker 3: the trial ended, and so obviously new evidence had to
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  Speaker 3: leave them here. And that's a good sign. Last time
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  Speaker 3: that Susan's house was searched with ground penetrating radar. I
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  Speaker 3: believe was in two thousand, so it's been twenty six years.
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  Speaker 2: As Lambert mentioned, it's been decades since this property saw
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  Speaker 2: this level of scrutiny. The San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's
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  Speaker 2: Office took to Facebook to confirm the activity, stating that
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  Speaker 2: a Superior Court judge signed off on the warrant. They
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  Speaker 2: were clear about the mission. The department remains firmly committed
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  Speaker 2: to bringing Kristen home to her family. Kristen Smart was
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  Speaker 2: just nineteen years old a student at cal Poly when
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  Speaker 2: she vanished in May of nineteen ninety six. It took
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  Speaker 2: twenty six years to get a conviction. In October twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, Paul Flores was sentenced to twenty five years
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  Speaker 2: to life after prosecutors proved he killed Kristin during an
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  Speaker 2: attempted rape in his dorm room. But even with Paul
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  Speaker 2: behind bars, the mystery of Kristen's whereabouts remains. Her body
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  Speaker 2: has never been found. District Attorney dw released a statement
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  Speaker 2: following the search, saying that while those with knowledge of
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  Speaker 2: the body's location could provide answers at any time. His
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  Speaker 2: office will continue to use every lawful tool available to
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  Speaker 2: find her. The stakes are incredibly high for the Smart family.
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  Speaker 2: A judge recently ordered Paul Flores to pay over three
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in restitution to the family,
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  Speaker 2: but they've made a stunning offer. They will waive that
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  Speaker 2: payment entirely if Flores simply tells them where Kristen is.
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  Speaker 2: So far, his attorney claims he doesn't know. For Kristen's family,
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  Speaker 2: Flora's conviction was only half the battle.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we are beyond grateful that he is in prison,
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  Speaker 4: but we would be ecstatic at this point if we
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  Speaker 4: were able to lay here to rest, you know, in
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  Speaker 4: the presence of our family.
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  Speaker 2: Denise Smart remains hopeful her daughter will be found. More
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  Speaker 2: Crime and Justice news After this, a scathing critique from
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  Speaker 2: the highest level of federal law enforcement has ignited a
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  Speaker 2: firestorm over the investigation into the disappearance of eighty four
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  Speaker 2: year old Nancy Guthrie. FBI Director Cash Pattel is publicly
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  Speaker 2: calling out the Pima County Sheriff's Department, alleging that local
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  Speaker 2: authorities essentially handcuffed the Bureau during the critical first hours
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  Speaker 2: after the elderly woman vanished. Nancy Guthrie, the mother of
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  Speaker 2: NBC Today's Show co anchor Savannah Guthrie, was last seen
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  Speaker 2: on January thirty first, at her daughter Annie's home in Tucson.
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  Speaker 2: She was reported missing the following day, February first, after
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  Speaker 2: failing to show up for an online church service. What followed,
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  Speaker 2: according to Director Patel, was a period of bureaucratic stalling
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  Speaker 2: that may have cost investigator's precious time. Appearing on the
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  Speaker 2: Hangout with Sean Hannity podcast, director Patel did not mince
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  Speaker 2: words about the friction between the FBI and local police.
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  Speaker 5: It is a state matter. It's a state and local
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  Speaker 5: law enforcement matter. What we the FBI do is say hey,
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  Speaker 5: we're here to help.
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  Speaker 6: What do you need? What can we do? And for
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  Speaker 6: four days we were kept out of the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: The director claims that the breakthrough in the case, an
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  Speaker 2: image of an armed, masked man outside Nancy Guthrie's home,
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  Speaker 2: only happened because the FBI finally bypassed local hurdles to
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  Speaker 2: work directly with tech giants. Patel explains that the ring
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  Speaker 2: doorbell at the residents did not have an active subscription
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  Speaker 2: to save footage, meaning the data was at risk of
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  Speaker 2: being lost forever.
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  Speaker 6: When we were finally let in sean, look what we did.
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  Speaker 5: We went in and got the ring doorbell and we said, hey,
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  Speaker 5: is anyone talking to Google? I called the leadership at
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  Speaker 5: Google and I said, look, we know that there was
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  Speaker 5: not a subscription service to capture all of the data
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  Speaker 5: that would have been captured had there been a subscription service,
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  Speaker 5: but can we go into the cash. Can we go
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  Speaker 5: into the data before it's deleted and see what we
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  Speaker 5: can find. That's why you have that image because the
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  Speaker 5: FBI worked with Google to put that image out.
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  Speaker 2: Patel further alleged that the FBI offered the full resources
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  Speaker 2: of their world class laboratory in Quantico, Virginia to process
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  Speaker 2: DNA evidence, and offer he says would have yielded result
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  Speaker 2: in a fraction of the time.
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  Speaker 5: We have Quantico best live in the world. I had
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  Speaker 5: a fixed wing aircraft on the ground ready to move
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  Speaker 5: it immediately through the night.
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  Speaker 1: Did you just say no?
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  Speaker 6: And they said, We're sent in it to Florida.
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  Speaker 2: The Pima County Sheriff's Department is firing back, issuing a
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  Speaker 2: statement insisting that coordination with the Bureau began without delay,
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  Speaker 2: and that the FBI was notified promptly by both the
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  Speaker 2: department and the Guthrie family. They defended their evidence processing
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  Speaker 2: as being based on operational needs and maintained that their
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  Speaker 2: local labs work in close partnership with Quantico. Despite the
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  Speaker 2: finger pointing, the grim reality remains Nancy Guthrie is still
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  Speaker 2: missing in No suspect or motive has been identified. The
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  Speaker 2: Guthrie family has offered a one million dollar reward for
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  Speaker 2: her recovery. If you have any information, please call a
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  Speaker 2: Pema County Sheriff's Department at five two zero three five
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  Speaker 2: one forty nine hundred or one eight hundred call a FBI.
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  Speaker 2: As the legal world waits with baited breath for an
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  Speaker 2: official ruling from the South Carolina Supreme Court regarding convicted
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  Speaker 2: killer Alex Murdau's high profile appeal, the rumor mill has
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  Speaker 2: officially shifted into overdrive. We're talking about the June twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one murders of Maggie and Paul Murdaw, a case
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  Speaker 2: that gripped the nation, and we may be on the
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  Speaker 2: verge of seeing those double murder convictions completely vacated. The
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  Speaker 2: latest firestorm began over the weekend when podcaster Mandy Mattney
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  Speaker 2: informed listeners a reliable source confirmed a bombshell the state's
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  Speaker 2: High Court has reportedly already reached a decision. According to Mattney,
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  Speaker 2: all five justices have voted unanimously in favor of Alex
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  Speaker 2: Murdaugh receiving a new trial. She noted that the official
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  Speaker 2: opinion should be released any day now, adding that she
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  Speaker 2: shared the information as a warning for her audience to
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  Speaker 2: be prepared for what's coming. To clarify illegal mechanics. Technically,
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  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court doesn't just order a new trial. The
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  Speaker 2: five justices are actually weighing whether to reverse a controversial
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  Speaker 2: January twenty twenty four decision made by former South Carolina
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  Speaker 2: Chief Justice Jene Toll. Justice Toll previously denied Murdaw's request
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  Speaker 2: for new proceedings. If the current Supreme Court reverses that decision,
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  Speaker 2: the entire case is remanded back to the circuit court level. Essentially,
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  Speaker 2: the case would start from square one. If that happens,
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  Speaker 2: the ball lands back in the court of South Carolina
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General Alan Wilson. His Grand Jury Division led the
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  Speaker 2: initial prosecution, and it would be up to him to
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  Speaker 2: decide if the state has the appetite and the resources
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  Speaker 2: to try Alex Murdaw a second time for the deaths
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  Speaker 2: of his wife and son. Murdaw was once a king
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  Speaker 2: maker in the South Carolina Low Country, a prominent personal
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  Speaker 2: injury attorney from Hampton County. He came from a legal
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  Speaker 2: dynasty that had controlled the local prosecutor's office for generations,
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  Speaker 2: but that legacy shattered on the night of June seventh,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Prosecutors say Murdaw used a shotgun and
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  Speaker 2: a rifle to execute his wife, fifty two year old
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  Speaker 2: Maggie Murdaw, and his younger son, twenty two year old
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  Speaker 2: Paul Murdau, at the family's sprawling seventeen hundred acre hunting
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  Speaker 2: estate known as Mozelle. The motive, the state argued that
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  Speaker 2: Murdaw's life was a house of cards. He was allegedly
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  Speaker 2: drowning in millions of dollars of stolen client funds in
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  Speaker 2: a decade's long opioid addiction. Prosecutors insist he killed his
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  Speaker 2: family to create a sympathy alibi, hoping the tragedy would
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  Speaker 2: stall the investigations into his financial fraud. In March twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three, after a six week trial, a jury took
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  Speaker 2: less than three hours to find him guilty of both murders.
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  Speaker 2: The signs have been pointing to a vacated conviction since
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  Speaker 2: February eleventh, when the Justices heard oral arguments. During that hearing,
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  Speaker 2: lead prosecutor Creighton Waters was subjected to intense questioning from
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  Speaker 2: the bench. The Justices zeroed in on documented jury tampering
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  Speaker 2: and alleged jury rigging, specifically scrutinizing the eleventh hour dismissal
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  Speaker 2: of Jurormira Crosby, better known as Eggle. Many legal analysts
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  Speaker 2: believe removing her was the decisive factor in securing that
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  Speaker 2: unanimous guilty verdict back in twenty twenty three. Further fueling
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  Speaker 2: the fire was the mysterious absence of the Supreme Court's
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  Speaker 2: advance sheet last week. This is a preview of upcoming decisions,
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  Speaker 2: typically published every Wednesday at ten am. When it didn't appear,
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  Speaker 2: speculation went into a tail spin. While the Court hasn't
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  Speaker 2: explained the delay, the timing is certainly conspicuous. At the
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  Speaker 2: heart of this appeal is Rebecca Becky Hill, the former
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  Speaker 2: Colleton County Clerk of court. Murdaw's defense team argues she
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  Speaker 2: improperly influenced the jury, violating the sixth Amendment, while prosecutors
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  Speaker 2: argue her actions didn't change the verdict. The justices seem
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  Speaker 2: skeptical back in February. If these convictions are vacated, it
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  Speaker 2: changes everything. Murda is currently serving two life sentences for murder,
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  Speaker 2: but he is also serving decades for a web of
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  Speaker 2: financial crimes. If the murder charges are reset, those financial
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  Speaker 2: sens sinces could be revisited as well. The implications here
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  Speaker 2: are massive. This isn't just about one man. It's about
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  Speaker 2: how South Carolina handles juror misconduct in the spotlight. After
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  Speaker 2: nineteen days of emotional testimony, Tanner Horner has been sentenced
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  Speaker 2: to death for killing a young girl he was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be delivering a Christmas present too. A Tarrant County,
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  Speaker 2: Texas jury heard closing arguments from both sides Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Defense attorney Susan Anderson pleaded with jurors to be merciful
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  Speaker 2: in deciding Horner's fate. Quote, I want you to vote
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  Speaker 2: for life. Sentenced Tanner to life in prison without the
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  Speaker 2: possibility of parole, but District attorney James Stainton made a
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  Speaker 2: strong rebuttal quote. Was Tanner merciful? Was Tanner vengeful? Did
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  Speaker 2: he show remorse?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's important. The jury took roughly two
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  Speaker 2: and a half hours to come to the decision Horner
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  Speaker 2: should face execution. Horner remained stoic as the verdict was read,
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  Speaker 2: only speaking to agree to appointed council for his automatic
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  Speaker 2: appeal process. The uncle of victim Athenas Strand, was the
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  Speaker 2: only family member to address Horner in court yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: You did not just take a life, You destroyed plan.
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  Speaker 8: He took a little girl the trust of the world
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  Speaker 8: and repaid that innocense of violence. He chose to cause
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  Speaker 8: pain that last generations.
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  Speaker 7: But I want you to know that you are nothing.
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  Speaker 8: You are a footne in Athens story. Her name will
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  Speaker 8: forever be the matter, Her name will forever be celebrated,
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  Speaker 8: and everyone will forgive you.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of Athena's family says they are not yet
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  Speaker 2: ready to comment on the outcome of the trial. Horner,
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  Speaker 2: a former FedEx driver, pleaded guilty to the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: two kidnapping in capital murder of seven year old Athenis Strand.
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  Speaker 2: Just As the trial began, leaving the jury to decide
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  Speaker 2: his punishment. The details of the crime are haunting. Horner
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  Speaker 2: was delivering a barbie doll intended as a Christmas gift
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  Speaker 2: for Athena when he struck her with his van. He
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  Speaker 2: told investigators that although she wasn't seriously injured by the vehicle,
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  Speaker 2: he panicked and strangled her to death in his van
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  Speaker 2: to keep her from telling her father or stepmother. Following
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  Speaker 2: Athena's murder, Horner wrote a letter to Athena's family in
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  Speaker 2: which he claimed he could no longer stay silent despite
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  Speaker 2: his legal team's advice. Horner wrote, so many were affected
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  Speaker 2: by my breakdown, not just your family, but my own
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  Speaker 2: as well. He admitted to countless nights of being unable
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  Speaker 2: to sleep, writing that he prays for the family but
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  Speaker 2: acknowledges the permanent void he created. Quote, You'll never get
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  Speaker 2: to see your baby girl grow up. And I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: and I will make sure that every person in this
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  Speaker 2: world knows.
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  Speaker 7: But she was loved and that she wanted to live,
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  Speaker 7: and we want her in our life, and I'm very sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Two three weeks ago, Athena's mother, Maitland Gandy, took the stand.
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  Speaker 2: Gandy described the physical pain of the loss, stating it
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  Speaker 2: felt like she was having a heart attack when she
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  Speaker 2: first heard her daughter was missing. She revealed the heartbreaking
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  Speaker 2: toll on her family, admitting she lied to Athena's three
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  Speaker 2: year old sister for over a year, telling her Athena
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  Speaker 2: was staying with her father and couldn't come to the
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  Speaker 2: phone because she was sleeping or at school, incapable of
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  Speaker 2: finding words to explain what happened. When asked if she
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  Speaker 2: had watched the video of Horner killing her daughter, Gandy
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  Speaker 2: said she could only stomach a few minutes, sharing her
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  Speaker 2: sympathy for the jury who had to watch it, telling
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  Speaker 2: them no one, especially Athena, asked for what happened in
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  Speaker 2: those final moments.
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  Speaker 1: You have to watch that.
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  Speaker 8: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to you, and I'm sorry to you all
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  Speaker 1: two because none of us, not Athena, not me, not
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  Speaker 1: anyone in this room besides Tanner.
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  Speaker 7: Horner asked for what's on that video? In Athena definitely.
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  Speaker 2: In the Texas Panhandle, a community is reeling from a
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  Speaker 2: weekend of senseless violence that turned a young celebration into
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  Speaker 2: a battlefield. The Amarillo Police Department is currently hunting for
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  Speaker 2: two suspects following a targeted shooting at a house party
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  Speaker 2: that left two teenagers dead and ten others fighting for
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  Speaker 2: their lives. According to official statements from the APD, the
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  Speaker 2: tragedy unfolded early Saturday morning, May twond around two am.
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  Speaker 2: Investigators said the party actually began at a different location
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  Speaker 2: before moving to an apartment complex on South Colter Street.
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  Speaker 2: It was there, amidst a gathering of juveniles and young adults,
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  Speaker 2: that the night took a deadly turn. Police believed several
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  Speaker 2: individuals were asked to leave the original party location. However,
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  Speaker 2: instead of moving on, these individuals allegedly followed the partygoers
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  Speaker 2: to the South Colter Street complex. Once there, they attempted
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  Speaker 2: to force their way into an apartment and opened fire.
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  Speaker 2: The weapon used has been described by authorities as a
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  Speaker 2: rifle style weapon, and the carnage it caused was caught
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  Speaker 2: on harrowing home security footage. In the video, which has
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  Speaker 2: since been shared by police to aid in the investigation,
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  Speaker 2: you can see the absolute chaos as dozens of gunshots
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  Speaker 2: ring out, sending people running for their lives across the property.
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  Speaker 2: When the smoke cleared, seventeen year old Ezekiel Rudy Almison,
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  Speaker 2: and an unnamed sixteen year old boy were dead. At
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  Speaker 2: least ten others were rushed to local hospitals with various injuries,
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  Speaker 2: including several suffering from gunshot wounds. While a glock nine
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  Speaker 2: millimeter handgun was recovered on a landing outside one of
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  Speaker 2: the units, The sheer number of cartridge casings found in
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  Speaker 2: a nearby alley suggests multiple weapons were utilized in the assault.
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  Speaker 2: M Maillo Police Chief Thomas Hover has confirmed that this
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  Speaker 2: was not a random to violence. He stated that the
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  Speaker 2: suspects have a direct affiliation with the targeted location and
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  Speaker 2: were known to at least one person at the party.
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  Speaker 2: Despite this connection, the suspects remain at large. Chief Hover
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  Speaker 2: has condemned the unacceptable criminal behavior and is urging anyone
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  Speaker 2: with doorbell or security footage from the South Colter Street
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  Speaker 2: area to come forward. Moving to Louisiana, a courtroom in
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  Speaker 2: Baton Rouge is the setting for a trial that has
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  Speaker 2: horrified the nation, centering on a pattern of cruelty that
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  Speaker 2: ended the life of a four year old girl. Roxanne
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  Speaker 2: Record fifty seven is facing a jury this week on
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  Speaker 2: first degree murder charges. Prosecutors alleged she didn't just kill
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  Speaker 2: her granddaughter China Record, she tortured her. The incident dates
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  Speaker 2: back to April twenty twenty two. According to Assistant District
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  Speaker 2: Attorney Dana Cunnings, the punishment began when little China took
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  Speaker 2: a single sit from a whiskey bottle left on a
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  Speaker 2: kitchen counter. In retaliation, prosecutors say Roxanne Record Source the
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  Speaker 2: child to her knees and made her consume the remainder
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  Speaker 2: of a seven hundred and fifty mili liter bottle of
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  Speaker 2: eighty proof Canadian missed whiskey. All the while the child's mother,
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  Speaker 2: Kadja Record, allegedly stood by and watched her daughter die.
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  Speaker 2: The medical evidence in this case is staggering. When first
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  Speaker 2: responders arrived at China's Wallace Street home, they found her unresponsive.
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  Speaker 2: An autopsy later revealed her blood alcohol content was point
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  Speaker 2: six eight zero, that is more than eight times the
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  Speaker 2: legal limit for an adult driver. During opening statements, the
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  Speaker 2: prosecution painted a bleak picture of China's life, alleging she
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  Speaker 2: was marginalized by her grandmother, who never liked her and
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  Speaker 2: treated her differently than the other children in the home.
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  Speaker 1: It was a.
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  Speaker 2: Household where China's own siblings were reportedly conditioned to believe
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  Speaker 2: she was stealing if she tried to access food or water.
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  Speaker 2: The defense, led by attorney Caitlin Falkes, isn't denying the tragedy,
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  Speaker 2: but is arguing it was a horrific accident rather than
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  Speaker 2: a premeditated murder. They claim Record attempted CPR to save
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  Speaker 2: the girl, and that the state cannot prove the specific
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  Speaker 2: intent required for a first degree murder conviction. If the
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  Speaker 2: jury disagrees, Roxanne Record faces a mandatory sentence of life
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  Speaker 2: in prison without parole. The mother, Caja Record, will face
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  Speaker 2: her own day in court later this summer. For the
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  Speaker 2: latest crime and justice breaking news, be sure to tune
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  Speaker 2: in tomorrow on your favorite podcast app with this crime alert.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Sidney Silvani.