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Thriving Through the Holidays: Health & Well-being for Business Leaders · Business Roundtable

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the Business Roundtable podcasts. I'm
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Speaker 1: so excited you guys to have Heather and Stacy back.
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Speaker 1: For those of you that are following along, Heather and
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Speaker 1: Stacy have been back on the podcast quite a while back,
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Speaker 1: and we were talking about health in a different aspect,
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Speaker 1: and so I invited them both back on the podcast
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Speaker 1: and I'll let them introduce themselves for our topic this week.
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Speaker 1: So without further ado, Heather, welcome back to the podcast.
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Speaker 2: Oh thank you so much, David. I really do appreciate
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Speaker 2: you having me here. I'm so excited about the topic.
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Speaker 2: When you talked about the topic in general, like I
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Speaker 2: was super excited and I saw some of the things
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Speaker 2: that we're looking at doing. I'm so excited to be here.
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Speaker 3: Anyway.
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Speaker 2: I am Heather Healer. I have been in a wellness
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Speaker 2: for thirty years, and I am a number one best
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Speaker 2: selling author as well as seen on Fox News and NBC,
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Speaker 2: ABC those kind of things. But most importantly, what I
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Speaker 2: do is I help people love themselves and I help
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Speaker 2: people with their wellness practices so they can fill their
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Speaker 2: best Awesome.
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Speaker 1: We're so excited, Heather, and I'm sure you'll sure some
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Speaker 1: more things you've been up to recently, so thanks and
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Speaker 1: welcome back. And Stacy was on our very first podcast
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Speaker 1: when we started this in twenty twenty three. She was
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Speaker 1: actually one of the inspired me to get this podcast going.
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Speaker 1: With her, we were talking earlier about your pioneer voice
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Speaker 1: and your visionary of so thank you Stacey, welcome back
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Speaker 1: to the podcast.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, David.
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Speaker 4: I'm excited to be back and also to be able
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Speaker 4: to have a conversation with Heather and so I am
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Speaker 4: Stacy canoshto with safe Synergy Solutions. I have been in
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Speaker 4: the financial industry for over ten years, and prior to that,
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Speaker 4: I was a business owner in California and just learn
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Speaker 4: to understand the challenges that business owners face wearing multiple hats.
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Speaker 4: We're trying to build their business and try to have
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Speaker 4: employees and keep complying and all that other stuff that
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Speaker 4: comes along with being an entrepreneur starting a business. And
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Speaker 4: so I currently work with business owners who are frustrated
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Speaker 4: in those areas of business. They don't have a culture
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Speaker 4: that promotes or encourages their employees to stay with them,
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Speaker 4: so there's turnover, there's you know, they're just they're trying
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Speaker 4: to do it all and keep to their bottom line,
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Speaker 4: increase their bottom line, and so I work with them
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Speaker 4: on strategies in those areas. And I'm excited about the
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Speaker 4: topic because I know that very well and it's just
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Speaker 4: one of my One of the eras that I pay
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Speaker 4: attention to in my own life and then in the
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Speaker 4: life of other entrepreneurs is health. And so I'm glad
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Speaker 4: to be able to have this conversation with Heather.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, so you both alluded to it, Yes, healthware focus.
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Speaker 1: We're here when we're recording this, it's the end of October,
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Speaker 1: We're almost on the precipice of November.
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Speaker 5: And I thought, you know, before you know it will
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Speaker 5: be at the end of the year.
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Speaker 1: We'll get through Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Year's and
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Speaker 1: all of those things.
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Speaker 5: And you know, it's difficult enough throughout the year with.
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Speaker 1: Running a business, like you said, Stacy, and being a leader,
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Speaker 1: whether you're the owner of the business, whether you're managing
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Speaker 1: a team. And so I thought, how can we be
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Speaker 1: more mindful about health and well being as we go
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Speaker 1: into the holiday season and be more prepared instead of
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Speaker 1: kind of caught unaware once again, you're like, oh my goodness,
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Speaker 1: I can't believe it's x next week or the week
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Speaker 1: after that, right, And like I wasn't really planning for that,
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Speaker 1: or I just wasn't anticipating it was going to be
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Speaker 1: so stressful that could lead to burnout, right or And
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Speaker 1: so we don't want people being burned out.
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Speaker 5: We don't.
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Speaker 1: And and there's a whole host of things too that
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Speaker 1: come along, perhaps even emotionally, that you're not you know,
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Speaker 1: you're not processing right and dealing with when you're going
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Speaker 1: through the holidays. And so I just thought, how they
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Speaker 1: will start with you first and then come to you Stacey,
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Speaker 1: but just talk about how do we understand and get
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Speaker 1: wrap rounds around the holiday strain about health and work.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the first things to understand
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Speaker 2: about the holidays is the holidays in and of themselves, well,
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Speaker 2: they may be wonderful, they do just bring a certain
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Speaker 2: amount of stress with them. They also would be able
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Speaker 2: to speak more to this. They also bring a financial stress,
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Speaker 2: financial burden to a lot of people. Everyone wants to
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Speaker 2: show up their best and do their most. But the
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Speaker 2: other thing that a lot of people aren't aware of
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Speaker 2: is that holidays for anyone who's experienced trauma at some
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Speaker 2: point during the holidays are already tremulous for them, right,
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Speaker 2: so you're going to have you are going to have
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Speaker 2: at least one employee statistic statistically the struggles with the
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Speaker 2: holidays in general, and so as a leaders, as an owner,
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Speaker 2: you know it's your job to help facilitate a healthy environment,
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Speaker 2: not just you know, make sure that everyone's eating right
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Speaker 2: or that you're eating right, and providing different options for
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Speaker 2: environmental health is very very important. Understanding the stress levels
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Speaker 2: are higher, Understand that there are some people who've got
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Speaker 2: probably got more strained than others. In fact, I found
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Speaker 2: out just today when I was doing some research that
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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, on Christmas Eve, there's a thirty seven percent
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Speaker 2: higher risk of a heart attack than any other part
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Speaker 2: of the year.
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Speaker 3: Wow, Christmas need Yes, So did they attribute that to
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Speaker 3: Heather just there?
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Speaker 2: There are several things. One is the added stress, higher
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Speaker 2: blood pressure, dealing with difficult possibly family members, not eating right,
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Speaker 2: over indulging in bad foods, wailing to nourish your body,
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Speaker 2: as well excessive alcohol consumption. But mostly they kind of
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Speaker 2: attribute it to poor eating. Over eating and high stress
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Speaker 2: situations is what they primarily contributed to. So the holidays
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Speaker 2: bring real stress. As wonderful as they can be. I
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Speaker 2: love the holidays, They're not wonderful for everybody, and I
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Speaker 2: think it's important to that of mind. You have the
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Speaker 2: opportunity to bring joy to other people's lives, and that
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Speaker 2: in and of itself is also another aspect of wellness.
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Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Absolutely. How about you?
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Speaker 1: How about you, Stacy? What what do you see here?
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Speaker 1: Kind of understanding this holiday stream. We've kind of talked
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Speaker 1: about physical and kundamental strain, but what have you seen Stacey?
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Speaker 5: Kind of.
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Speaker 4: Yes, you know what, I look at it like this.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna separate and bring it together. So
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Speaker 4: it makes sense. You've got pressures on the job as
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Speaker 4: an either as an employer or as an employee, and
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Speaker 4: you have social pressures in your social life. And I
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Speaker 4: think that if Heather said the keyword is be prepared,
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Speaker 4: I think Gived you said that too. So I'm gonna
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna separate them because even though they somehow tie together,
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Speaker 4: I think from a social aspect a lot of times
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Speaker 4: that the pressure that we have during the holiday season
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Speaker 4: is based on our expectations or what we or what
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Speaker 4: we perceive as expectations from other people. So for example,
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Speaker 4: like the holiday food and the drinking and whatnot. Well,
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Speaker 4: just because you go to a holiday party doesn't mean
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Speaker 4: you have to eat like a pig, or eat before
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Speaker 4: you you know, or or drink like a pig.
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Speaker 3: Whatever you aren't called.
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Speaker 4: The point is that you have to understand what your
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Speaker 4: limitations are, what your goals are, and just be mentally
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Speaker 4: prepared before you go. Not just go to these parties
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Speaker 4: and like set some limits and boundaries expectations for yourself.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have three drinks, I'm gonna I'm gonna watch
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Speaker 4: my consumptions, like be mentally aware of when you go
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Speaker 4: maybe past behavior and what you what your goals are
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Speaker 4: for current behavior. That's one thing. The other thing is
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Speaker 4: the other social pressure I think hither alluded to is
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Speaker 4: the financial When you think you have to give a
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Speaker 4: gift to every Tom, Dick and Harry, plus Grandma and
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Speaker 4: great grandma and the dog and the cat, then you
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Speaker 4: start taking on those financial pressures like I need to.
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Speaker 4: I remember my love giving it personal because I would
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Speaker 4: live with my parents when we were younger. They used
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Speaker 4: to I was like tons and tons of toys under
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Speaker 4: the tree and it was exciting as a child. But
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Speaker 4: then I saw them after Christmas be very stressed out
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Speaker 4: because of the financial the debt. And so when I
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Speaker 4: had my children, I went into that. My daughter, my
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Speaker 4: first child, I remember saying, we got to go out
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Speaker 4: and buy all these gifts. And I had the same mindset.
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Speaker 4: So when she when she wakes up to see all
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Speaker 4: these gifts under the tree, and my husband at the
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Speaker 4: time said, who is from a different culture, said, she's
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Speaker 4: only two years old. She don't know whether you know
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Speaker 4: all these gifts. You know, all we need to do
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Speaker 4: is spend a certain amount and then she's gonna get
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Speaker 4: gifts from her grandparents and so and so. And then
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Speaker 4: it made sense and I said the like, you know,
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Speaker 4: and so that pressure too to not have to go
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Speaker 4: out and buy all these gifts. The other thing too,
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Speaker 4: is like you know, when families get together. I remember
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Speaker 4: one time, like we had a family get together and
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Speaker 4: we're talking about gifts, and I'm thinking if I had
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Speaker 4: to buy gifts for every single family member, I would
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Speaker 4: that was that's also a financial strain. So we came
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Speaker 4: up with an idea of picking names and a hat
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Speaker 4: and making it a fun event so you can you
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Speaker 4: can look at some of your your your culture, your
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Speaker 4: what is the word your holiday traditions. I mean, people
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Speaker 4: are just so stuck about holiday traditions that they don't
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Speaker 4: know any better or they don't want to do make
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Speaker 4: any changes. But just making those slight adjustments can also
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Speaker 4: alleviate some of the stress, financial, mental, social pressure.
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Speaker 3: That you have in your personal life. So it doesn't
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Speaker 3: make sense.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Heather, you want well, I want I
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Speaker 1: wanted to pick up on that because you both talked
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Speaker 1: a couple of things, and I like where you're going, Stacey,
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Speaker 1: because we want and one of the areas we talked
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Speaker 1: about is getting a little deeper dive into some personal
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Speaker 1: strategies for well being.
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Speaker 5: But I think you know.
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Speaker 1: Again, I think Heather, you brought this up like, look
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Speaker 1: you now you may have handled this well, but your
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Speaker 1: other team members may not have handled this well. So
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Speaker 1: how do you like look, you know, looking at this
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Speaker 1: and being aware of like you said, you might be
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Speaker 1: not getting enough rest because you're trying to do get
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Speaker 1: all the holiday stuff in squeezed in. There's also other events, right,
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Speaker 1: So again, if you're not being prepared, you're just erupted
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Speaker 1: routines right that you're normally having and I think you
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Speaker 1: both alluded to this. I and indulgent eating is just
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Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting now that you guys say this.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why I ever thought about this, but
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a coping mechanism to a certain degree, right,
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Speaker 1: because you're stressed and then the food's right there, so
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Speaker 1: you're kind of like it's unhealthy, but you're it's tied
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Speaker 1: to this of you know, the physical wellbeing, right or
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Speaker 1: what you're dealing with mentally, and so it's it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a coping mechanism, not a healthy one, but it's
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Speaker 1: a coping mechanism to a degree, right that we've kind
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Speaker 1: of created. And I think honestly, companies, you know, see
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Speaker 1: that there's a demand for it, unhealthy demand, but there's
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Speaker 1: a demand for it. So they kind of like, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: let's give you some more chocolate, Let's give you some
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Speaker 1: more you know.
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Speaker 5: Whatever this is.
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Speaker 3: It is it a corporate I beg the difference and
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 4: I think the corporate is just mimicking the expectations that
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Speaker 4: we have in society, and that is holidays is about
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Speaker 4: all indulging.
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Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. Even so the reason.
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Speaker 4: Why I brought up the personal first is because we
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Speaker 4: take that same culture and mindset and bring it.
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Speaker 3: Into the workforce.
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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna separate it from employer toes. I mean
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Speaker 4: every holiday, I mean, I don't know how many plates
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Speaker 4: of cookies and chocolates and and it's part of the festivities,
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Speaker 4: but it's also part of the fifteen pounds that people
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Speaker 4: gain every holiday season. It contributes to that. So part
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Speaker 4: of it is just you know, as holiday season, oh
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Speaker 4: there's some cookies, and you think that you are I
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Speaker 4: mean what is more fun a plate of chocolates and
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Speaker 4: cookies or playing care sticks for the holidays? I mean
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Speaker 4: so if somebody brought in carrots and celery and whatnot,
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Speaker 4: they would probably think, we can eat this anytime we
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Speaker 4: want to have fun. So I guess, how do you
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Speaker 4: now adapt a healthier way of dealing with the holidays
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Speaker 4: and bring it into the workforce. That would be the question.
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Speaker 4: And I think that and it could start from top
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Speaker 4: to bottom. You're not going to police the staff and
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Speaker 4: say shame on you for bringing chocolate and cookies, but yes,
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Speaker 4: you know, but you can create an environment where it
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Speaker 4: promotes health and wellness and or people are more conscientious
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Speaker 4: about the types of foods they bring in during a
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Speaker 4: holiday season. But that's like a culture that you have
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Speaker 4: to create in the company, you know.
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Speaker 1: I agree, And I want to ask Heather this question
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Speaker 1: because I think that you bring a really good point, Stacy,
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Speaker 1: because for example, what if if somebody is feeling the
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Speaker 1: strain of like like they're bringing cookies or maybe they
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Speaker 1: bring a gift or something, and so how do we
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Speaker 1: handle this because they're feeling stressed or the team around
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Speaker 1: I'll may drop because well, this person's doing this.
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Speaker 5: To shoot, say I do this too, and so how
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Speaker 5: do we be intentional? And so kind of leading into
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Speaker 5: how do we be.
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Speaker 1: Balance the work and do this in a in a
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Speaker 1: thoughtful way to where like.
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Speaker 5: I won't discourage somebody, but also like be aware.
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Speaker 1: That we're not, you know, causing people more stress, you know,
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Speaker 1: causing challenges to more people.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 1: So I guess Heather, I'd love to have your response
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Speaker 1: to what Stacy's asking here.
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Speaker 5: How can we be more mindful of that?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think we both we both said it. First
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Speaker 2: of all, you need to be aware that this is
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Speaker 2: the way it is, this is a thing, and be
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Speaker 2: honest with yourself about who you are and how you are.
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Speaker 2: For instance, if there's a plate of cookies, I'm going
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Speaker 2: to have one. It's not it's not a matter of willpower.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to have one now. If I have one, great,
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Speaker 2: but if I have five, not so great. The other
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Speaker 2: thing is a lot of that kind of stuff that
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Speaker 2: we see during the holidays. It's stuff I don't have
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Speaker 2: in my house for one very good reasons because if
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Speaker 2: it's there, I eat it. I don't have a lot
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Speaker 2: of willpower when it comes to holiday goods. By the
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Speaker 2: same token, my lives to bake for the holidays, so
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Speaker 2: I have to prepare myself and remind myself of how
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Speaker 2: to properly eat how to do that. So first of all,
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Speaker 2: I recommend, if you're the leader, or even if you're
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Speaker 2: a team member, be that person that brings in a
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Speaker 2: tray of vegetables, because, believe it or not, those things
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Speaker 2: are appreciated. But it goes beyond eating, right, how about
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Speaker 2: instead of bringing in a plate of goodies every day,
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Speaker 2: because especially like when I worked at the bank, oh,
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Speaker 2: we had tons of stuff coming in. Stuff coming in.
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Speaker 2: I mean we couldn't get rid of it. But what
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Speaker 2: about what about a nice plant to put on the desk.
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Speaker 2: What about a nice plant to put on the desk.
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Speaker 2: You're getting this nice oxygen exhale. Maybe a little you
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Speaker 2: can do a what do you call it, a diffuser.
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Speaker 2: You don't even have to have oil in it, but
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Speaker 2: the nice fresh moisture going into the air. These things
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Speaker 2: that can help set a more tranquil mind, so you're
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Speaker 2: not as prone to jump into some of those other things.
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Speaker 2: But when it comes to eating that stuff, a lot
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Speaker 2: of people don't understand. You know, we're talking the workforce here,
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Speaker 2: but it's on a personal level as well. Right, you
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Speaker 2: see your friends for the holiday, maybe you're having an
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Speaker 2: ornament exchange. Everyone brings a bunch of goodies, right, huge
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Speaker 2: plated goodies home. Well, be that person that doesn't bring sweets. Right,
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Speaker 2: go ahead and be that person that nobody likes. But
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Speaker 2: but you know, there's so many other ways that you
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Speaker 2: can you can be involved without it actually being food.
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Speaker 2: And if you're going to have that stuff, be aware
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Speaker 2: that if you eat a candy bar one day at
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Speaker 2: three pm, guess what is going to happen to you
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Speaker 2: at three eight pm the next day? You're going to
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Speaker 2: want a candy bar, a lot of people don't understand
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Speaker 2: how that works because sugar is that addictive. It is
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Speaker 2: that addictive, and sugar free sweets are not any better
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Speaker 2: because the body still thinks it's about to get sugar.
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Speaker 2: It kicks in the insulin and then things are really
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Speaker 2: out of whap, which adds to stress, discomfort within the body, homeostasis. Right,
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Speaker 2: So all of that, all of that, but there's so
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Speaker 2: many things that you can do. Cultivate something in the
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Speaker 2: work environment which I like to call, you know, kind
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Speaker 2: of like the secret Santa. Right, do a secret wellness partner?
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Speaker 2: Think about that? What can you do if you if
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Speaker 2: you guys do names and you were helping each other
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Speaker 2: stay healthy, enjoy the holidays, yes, enjoy the goodies, but
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Speaker 2: also have healthy practices. Think about what you could do
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Speaker 2: and say like little notes, it'll get whatever, but you
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Speaker 2: can really encourage one another. And I think the other
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Speaker 2: thing too is if you think about after the holidays,
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Speaker 2: what does January bring? We talked about right, and and
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Speaker 2: financial strain because you're over you know, every everything about
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Speaker 2: the holidays is based on over indulgence. Over indulgents in
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Speaker 2: every aspect, alcohol, sugar, things, people, parties and those things
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Speaker 2: aren't bad. But you know what, here's another thing is
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Speaker 2: just because you're invited doesn't mean you have to go.
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Speaker 5: Mmm mmmm, that's important too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at if you're looking at health, and if
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Speaker 2: you've been working towards health, you need some concentive to
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Speaker 2: get through the holidays with that, because who wants to
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Speaker 2: be at the beginning of the next year jumping on
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Speaker 2: that bandwagon of now I've got to make up for
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Speaker 2: the last two months of not taking care of myself,
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Speaker 2: and heaven forbid we fall into one of that thirty
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Speaker 2: seven percent on Christmas Eve have heart.
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Speaker 5: Attack Jesus right, yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 2: It's horrible and a lot of people die from their
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Speaker 2: heart attacks on Christmas Eve because when they first start
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Speaker 2: having problems, they don't tell anybody why because they don't
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Speaker 2: want to ruin the fund. They don't want to mess
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Speaker 2: up the party, so they don't want to be taken
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Speaker 2: to the hospital.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Either I want to ask you a cool pollo up
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Speaker 1: question or and or Stacy, because I think you guys
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Speaker 1: are both getting at how do we encourage have any
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Speaker 1: encourage this healthy workplace? And I really like what you
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Speaker 1: just said was just because you're invited to a party
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Speaker 1: or an event or experience, doesn't don't feel like especially
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Speaker 1: if you feel like I'm gonna over indulge, Like if
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Speaker 1: I go to this, I'm going to probably drink too
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Speaker 1: much or I'm gonna eat too much. And I know myself,
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Speaker 1: and so, you know, how do we create ways as
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Speaker 1: leaders that can encourage people to work effectively and have flexibility?
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Speaker 5: And I think in today's I call.
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Speaker 1: A distributed workforce where people aren't all coming into an office,
20:26
Speaker 1: how do we make sense of creating that flexibility or
20:31
Speaker 1: remote days or adjusting hours that get all the work done,
20:35
Speaker 1: or figure out what they're different obligations because I've got
20:37
Speaker 1: to go to this, I feel like I've got to
20:39
Speaker 1: go to this event, my kid's doing something, or you know,
20:42
Speaker 1: I got to go there. So how to like readdress
20:44
Speaker 1: that in a healthy way so that people don't feel
20:46
Speaker 1: like just I feel like, I guess I've got to
20:49
Speaker 1: do this.
20:49
Speaker 5: I've got to make it work. You know.
20:51
Speaker 4: Well, I think there's two side to it, David, And
20:54
Speaker 4: we're talking about holidays, but I think business planning period
20:58
Speaker 4: is essential to have uh uh an effective workforce and
21:04
Speaker 4: and uh work culture and so and that needs to
21:08
Speaker 4: start way before the holidays come, and I think you
21:11
Speaker 4: need to understand and I think this part of it
21:15
Speaker 4: is just pacing the work out or the expectations of
21:17
Speaker 4: the workers out, anticipating that the holidays bring in additional stress,
21:23
Speaker 4: maybe even figuring out how to allow for all the
21:27
Speaker 4: other disruptions, the parties, the people getting sick with the
21:31
Speaker 4: traveling and whatnot. I know for a lot of employers,
21:35
Speaker 4: they're looking at it from a business perspective. How to
21:38
Speaker 4: make sure that the shifts are covered that I can
21:41
Speaker 4: run my business. And so you know, during the holidays,
21:43
Speaker 4: a lot of people want to take off time. They
21:45
Speaker 4: want to they want to put file for their vacation time.
21:49
Speaker 4: But as everybody took off at the same time, you
21:51
Speaker 4: can't run a business.
21:53
Speaker 3: So how do you how do you allow.
21:55
Speaker 4: For for for those disruptions as well to keep your
21:58
Speaker 4: business running and still keep your em I mean that's
22:02
Speaker 4: where you have to have either a good HR or
22:05
Speaker 4: good way of managing your your staff to be able
22:08
Speaker 4: to accommodate, you know, some of the stresses or whatnot.
22:13
Speaker 1: Right, you don't want to feel like I've got that
22:16
Speaker 1: request to Stacy where somebody's like, oh, I didn't you know,
22:20
Speaker 1: if you don't plan it right, and then you're the
22:21
Speaker 1: bad guy supervisor whatever, I'm sorry, I can't approve your
22:24
Speaker 1: time off.
22:24
Speaker 5: Well, how come you're you're being selective?
22:27
Speaker 1: This person gets their time off and it causes a whole
22:29
Speaker 1: lot of change in morale right, not planning for it.
22:32
Speaker 1: It's like it seems arbitrary, and so people get really
22:35
Speaker 1: frustrated because they.
22:38
Speaker 2: So but no, go ahead, Henny.
22:42
Speaker 4: Well, well I'm saying that that again is part of system.
22:46
Speaker 4: Putting systems in place to run your business and being
22:49
Speaker 4: able to track, you know, having a good Is that
22:52
Speaker 4: what you're going to say, Heather? But I think even
22:55
Speaker 4: with the with the company culture. I mean, for example,
22:59
Speaker 4: if you you are the owner of a business, you
23:01
Speaker 4: can say gather yourself and say, look, you know, we
23:05
Speaker 4: understand that this is a holiday season, it's festive and whatnot,
23:09
Speaker 4: and get.
23:10
Speaker 3: Some buy in.
23:10
Speaker 4: Why don't we have fun, but yet created like, you know,
23:15
Speaker 4: an environment where everybody stays healthy, So what does that
23:18
Speaker 4: look like?
23:19
Speaker 3: And get some buy in from your staff and just say,
23:20
Speaker 3: you know, you have.
23:22
Speaker 4: A Christmas part a holiday party, not Christmas holiday party,
23:25
Speaker 4: and we have a mixture of holiday goodies and whatnot
23:29
Speaker 4: and make it like a Holida Day party not a
23:32
Speaker 4: Hall of Month party. O. Yeah, And the challenge with
23:41
Speaker 4: holidays is that people get into Hall of Month mode
23:44
Speaker 4: and not Holidays. So then you've got the suites and
23:46
Speaker 4: stuff coming in for what from Thanksgiving to after New Year's.
23:52
Speaker 3: St Halloween from Halloween.
23:57
Speaker 2: Rush, Halloween picks up the sugar rush. I mean, I
24:00
Speaker 2: don't know a parent out there with kids that as
24:02
Speaker 2: soon as the kids get home, they don't dig through
24:04
Speaker 2: their kids stuff for the good candy.
24:07
Speaker 5: You know it. That's called the parent.
24:15
Speaker 4: A bad time to make better habits and straight up
24:20
Speaker 4: more positive culture for your family, for your office.
24:23
Speaker 3: The challenge is is that a lot of people won't
24:28
Speaker 3: challenge the status quo. You know.
24:32
Speaker 4: You know, I heard a story one time that a
24:35
Speaker 4: mother cooks her hand. The way she cooks her ham
24:39
Speaker 4: is that she cuts the ends off of the ham.
24:41
Speaker 4: And you hear that story, and I guess someone asked
24:46
Speaker 4: her daughter asked, well, mom, why do you cut the
24:47
Speaker 4: ends off on the pan?
24:49
Speaker 3: And she said, well, your grandmother did it.
24:51
Speaker 4: And then when they asked the grandmother, grandmother, why do
24:53
Speaker 4: you cut the ends off of the ham before you
24:55
Speaker 4: put it in the pen. She goes, well, the turkey
24:57
Speaker 4: the ham was too big and so I had to
24:59
Speaker 4: cut the the ends off of today how to fit
25:01
Speaker 4: in the pan.
25:02
Speaker 3: But it's funny how traditions.
25:03
Speaker 4: Are carried on about what we see and not understanding
25:06
Speaker 4: the reason behind the traditions. So, you know, people don't
25:10
Speaker 4: like change, but I think it takes someone to stay gets,
25:16
Speaker 4: you know, show them, show them the vision of what
25:18
Speaker 4: it could be. Hey, look we can still have fun.
25:20
Speaker 4: We could do all this, but it's a stressful time.
25:23
Speaker 4: Why don't we do X Y Z.
25:25
Speaker 3: And it takes a little curse to be the one that.
25:28
Speaker 4: Sticks your neck out to to, you know, introduce change.
25:32
Speaker 4: But but you have to have buy in so they
25:34
Speaker 4: understand that this is going to benefit them as well,
25:37
Speaker 4: not just.
25:37
Speaker 2: It needs to be inclusive, right, I think you're saying
25:40
Speaker 2: this is inclusive. It needs to be supportive. It needs
25:43
Speaker 2: to be encompassing for everybody.
25:46
Speaker 4: Right to get buy in, Yes, to get buying. Now
25:50
Speaker 4: you can be a dictator and just saying no. You know,
25:52
Speaker 4: but we're talking about adults. Adults want to be treated
25:55
Speaker 4: like adults.
25:56
Speaker 2: Well we're talking coming at this from the business. Well
26:00
Speaker 2: we're all business owners in this particular talk business owners managers.
26:05
Speaker 4: Well, when the employees, employees want to be treated like adults,
26:09
Speaker 4: not school therefore shame on you. So you've got to
26:14
Speaker 4: get some buying from other adults to be because you
26:17
Speaker 4: need that to create that culture where people feel like
26:19
Speaker 4: they belong and that they're part of a bigger community.
26:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, Stacy, you said one thing real quick, Heather when
26:27
Speaker 1: I come to you. But I wanted Stacy, I really
26:29
Speaker 1: like the holiday versus the whole of month concept.
26:33
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
26:34
Speaker 1: Well, but what makes me think of what happens is
26:36
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do is you know, we're trying
26:38
Speaker 1: to do good things like creating a team blunch or
26:41
Speaker 1: creating gratitude and and these things, but we're seeming like
26:44
Speaker 1: we're cramming it if in some cases people are cramming
26:48
Speaker 1: it into you know, at the end of the year,
26:51
Speaker 1: when you could be intentional throughout the year in doing
26:55
Speaker 1: these things and creating a better, healthier culture.
26:58
Speaker 5: And so it's like I missed this one.
27:00
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be the end of the world, you know,
27:02
Speaker 1: because that's what I feel sometimes the pressure of the
27:03
Speaker 1: end of your company party. I guess everybody's got to
27:06
Speaker 1: go to This is the one thing everybody's gonna do.
27:08
Speaker 5: If I don't show this up, how are they going
27:10
Speaker 5: to look at me?
27:11
Speaker 1: Or I've got a conflict because I've got to go
27:13
Speaker 1: to something with my family or whatever. And so it
27:15
Speaker 1: should I don't think it should as that kind of pressure.
27:19
Speaker 5: I think is you know, we need to.
27:21
Speaker 1: Provide other out like you said, like you said, Heather inclusiveness, right,
27:27
Speaker 1: So yeah, Heathery, go ahead. It was just that was
27:29
Speaker 1: what I thought to me, trying to cram it in
27:32
Speaker 1: instead of let's let's expand this out.
27:34
Speaker 2: Sure, well, and you know, I get so excited. I
27:40
Speaker 2: just can't help myself. You guys are saying such good stuff.
27:45
Speaker 2: But I think that I think that there are so
27:49
Speaker 2: many ways that we can be inclusive and treat the
27:53
Speaker 2: employees or treat our peers or colleagues as adults. Obviously,
27:58
Speaker 2: there are so very many ways. Is and if you
28:02
Speaker 2: think about the things that we do throughout the year,
28:05
Speaker 2: why can't some of those same things be done throughout
28:08
Speaker 2: the holidays with a with a slant on, a little
28:12
Speaker 2: extra slant on, you know, how to deal with everything, right,
28:17
Speaker 2: There's so many things that can be done. One of
28:21
Speaker 2: the things that I used to do is I would
28:23
Speaker 2: do a little form, you know, if we if we
28:27
Speaker 2: were looking at this, this or this, which would be
28:29
Speaker 2: your option, you know, giving people the option to choose,
28:33
Speaker 2: giving people an option to run a little mini meeting
28:35
Speaker 2: in the morning. How are we going to be healthy today?
28:38
Speaker 2: I it is my personal belief that every business should
28:41
Speaker 2: have a wellness minute in the morning, every bus because
28:48
Speaker 2: I think it's important for the employees to know also
28:52
Speaker 2: that their health matters. Their health matters, not just for
28:56
Speaker 2: their sake, not for the business's sake, not for your sake,
28:59
Speaker 2: but health matters, just like your health matters. Ultimately, it's
29:04
Speaker 2: not just about productivity. It's about quality of life. It's
29:08
Speaker 2: about atmosphere in the environment you're in. When you consider
29:13
Speaker 2: that the winter months, there's a lot of depression, right,
29:17
Speaker 2: there's a lot of depression. There's grace skis, you know,
29:21
Speaker 2: having a little extra light in the office. There's just
29:24
Speaker 2: so many things that can be done, you know, in
29:27
Speaker 2: an inclusive way and encourage people to talk about it
29:32
Speaker 2: and do these things. But yeah, for the purposes of
29:37
Speaker 2: this talk, we're talking about how to do that. In holidays,
29:39
Speaker 2: because how many of you Maybe you guys are not
29:42
Speaker 2: like me, but how many people out there have really
29:47
Speaker 2: done really well? You know, how many people get their
29:50
Speaker 2: summer body. Everyone is this diet now it's for the
29:52
Speaker 2: summer body. Now the holidays are here, it's cold. I
29:55
Speaker 2: don't want to get out. So January, oh, I got
29:58
Speaker 2: to get back in shape. We don't have to live
30:00
Speaker 2: like that, right, we have the option, like you said,
30:04
Speaker 2: to be cultivating that all year long. But I mean,
30:07
Speaker 2: I will tell you I always, when I worked in
30:10
Speaker 2: an office space where that kind of stuff was brought
30:13
Speaker 2: in in abundance, I always started out really good. By
30:19
Speaker 2: Christmas time everything was out the door. Now I didn't
30:23
Speaker 2: gain fifteen pounds because I did did kind of paste
30:26
Speaker 2: myself earlier on. But eventually the sugar addiction overcame me.
30:31
Speaker 2: And so it's important that you know yourself as well.
30:34
Speaker 5: Yes, right, So you.
30:38
Speaker 4: Want to take it on a corporate level or a
30:39
Speaker 4: business level. I think the employer can only be so
30:44
Speaker 4: responsible for so much. Absolutely, you know, I do you know,
30:49
Speaker 4: as I do group benefits, and I do see a
30:53
Speaker 4: larger the larger companies they do have the resources to
30:56
Speaker 4: be able to offer more benefits working on a case,
31:00
Speaker 4: and they had a a program to help employees stop smoking.
31:07
Speaker 3: They have for mental health.
31:09
Speaker 4: They have like an app on their phone that they
31:12
Speaker 4: can actually do scan their body and do all these
31:15
Speaker 4: checkups and whatnot. There's the technologies out there, the programs
31:18
Speaker 4: are out there. The larger companies understand the importance of offering
31:23
Speaker 4: employee benefits and they make those resources available. The smaller companies, however,
31:29
Speaker 4: that were the multiple hats that have the mindset. A
31:32
Speaker 4: lot of them are technicians and are learning to run
31:36
Speaker 4: a business. Those are the ones that I think the
31:38
Speaker 4: employees may suffer even more. The employees may take comfort
31:42
Speaker 4: us in a more quaint environment because it's not like.
31:44
Speaker 3: This huge corporation, so they may feel like they're part
31:47
Speaker 3: of a smaller tribe.
31:49
Speaker 4: But as far as resources, a lot of the small
31:52
Speaker 4: busts owners are not aware of those resources, and therefore
31:54
Speaker 4: the employee is responsible on his or her own to
32:00
Speaker 4: out those resources. Uh. By the way, that's where I
32:02
Speaker 4: can come in and assist them. But I think that
32:05
Speaker 4: that again, I want to be careful that the responsibility
32:09
Speaker 4: my health unresponsible for my own health, and if and
32:13
Speaker 4: if an employer offers resources, it's up to me to
32:16
Speaker 4: take advantage of those resources. So but you know, there again,
32:21
Speaker 4: you can have a company that offers resources and you
32:23
Speaker 4: still have people that will indulge throughout the year.
32:26
Speaker 3: And so.
32:29
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think the best impact we think on it
32:33
Speaker 4: is to uh deal with the individual and help them
32:37
Speaker 4: understand the importance of health and making better choices so
32:40
Speaker 4: that when they are exposed to because they're going to
32:43
Speaker 4: go outside of work and drink anyway and.
32:45
Speaker 3: Go to I do absolutely, you know what I'm saying.
32:49
Speaker 2: So and I think though, and you know, Stacy, I
32:53
Speaker 2: interrupted you again, finish and then I'll no, no, no,
32:56
Speaker 2: You're fine, go ahead, I am. I think I think
33:00
Speaker 2: that's where something you said earlier is so important, and
33:05
Speaker 2: that is that ultimately I'm responsible for me, You're responsible
33:12
Speaker 2: for you, Yes, absolutely, and we can facilitate an environment
33:16
Speaker 2: that offers great advantages. You can't force someone to take
33:20
Speaker 2: those advantages, right, And I think that's where like teams,
33:25
Speaker 2: you know, having you know, teamwork or team activities stuff together.
33:30
Speaker 2: So I don't know if any business it doesn't have
33:32
Speaker 2: team activities throughout the year, right, So why not have
33:36
Speaker 2: team activities around health during the holidays? Or there's there's
33:42
Speaker 2: absolutely I don't think that if you're the owner of
33:46
Speaker 2: a small business with two or three employees, or if
33:49
Speaker 2: you own a multimillion trillion dollar business and you've got
33:53
Speaker 2: hundreds of employees, it's not your job to personally see
33:57
Speaker 2: to the wellness of every single person. It's not possible.
34:01
Speaker 2: It's not possible. So I completely agree with you that
34:04
Speaker 2: that's there. But I do know that when you have
34:07
Speaker 2: teams like the Secret Santa Thing or the Secret Wellness Buddy,
34:11
Speaker 2: there are people who will choose not to be part
34:14
Speaker 2: of the secret Wellness program. Right. There are people who
34:17
Speaker 2: won't do it bottom line, Right, right, there are people
34:21
Speaker 2: who will go to the party and drink until they're
34:24
Speaker 2: sick as a dog instead of drinking maybe uh clubs
34:29
Speaker 2: sowed in between every drink and make sure they're eating
34:31
Speaker 2: before they start drinking. Right, It's going to happen. And
34:36
Speaker 2: every one of us in this world have over indulged
34:38
Speaker 2: in something at some point, So it's not a judgment thing.
34:41
Speaker 2: But if it's something that matters to you, if your
34:44
Speaker 2: health and wellness matters to you, there are things that
34:47
Speaker 2: can be done within the workforce. You as a leader
34:51
Speaker 2: can facilitate and encourage.
34:53
Speaker 6: But the absolutely yeah, yeah, well both of you said this,
34:59
Speaker 6: but goes back to intention, it goes back to planning,
35:02
Speaker 6: it goes back to you know, creating that space.
35:05
Speaker 1: I really like that you said, Heather, this this wellness
35:07
Speaker 1: moment because it reminds me and I know your husband
35:10
Speaker 1: does a lot of stuff and like the energy in
35:14
Speaker 1: construction and things of that nature, and so I've done
35:16
Speaker 1: a lot of that in the past where I've been
35:18
Speaker 1: as a biologist, but working in there and almost every day,
35:21
Speaker 1: almost I would say generally speaking, it's practice. If you're
35:24
Speaker 1: out in the field, you have a safety moment. You're
35:27
Speaker 1: always looking at a safety to talk about something for
35:30
Speaker 1: that day. You pick a topic it's relevant to the
35:33
Speaker 1: work that you're doing, and everybody's and they may have
35:36
Speaker 1: heard this before. It's nothing, it's nothing really revolutionary new,
35:39
Speaker 1: but it's a intentional reminder that this is important and
35:43
Speaker 1: this is the way we want to behave and you know,
35:45
Speaker 1: and I think what happens is, like you were saying earlier, staycy,
35:48
Speaker 1: sometimes we forget that intentionality and then everybody just gets busy.
35:55
Speaker 1: And that's what I think happens. Everybody just gets going
35:58
Speaker 1: you got so many things coming at you, and then
36:01
Speaker 1: you lack that intentionality and so then, like you said,
36:04
Speaker 1: howether you get stressed?
36:05
Speaker 5: I just see the cookie your teeth that.
36:07
Speaker 1: I'm running around and we get the next thing done,
36:09
Speaker 1: and it's like hold on, we need like like the
36:12
Speaker 1: creating spaces too, like you you said, CC, if we
36:16
Speaker 1: plan for it, then we're going to be much more successful.
36:20
Speaker 5: So on the each.
36:21
Speaker 1: Monday of the month, we're going to do a ten
36:23
Speaker 1: minute wellness moment.
36:24
Speaker 5: We're going to talk about how we can be better.
36:25
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. I'm just giving you an example.
36:27
Speaker 5: But the idea is that we're we're.
36:30
Speaker 1: Showing up and we're saying these things are important. How
36:33
Speaker 1: do we make sure that these things happen? Righty, Heather, right,
36:37
Speaker 1: and you gotta talk.
36:38
Speaker 3: It's got to be talked about.
36:40
Speaker 4: I mean, it's you know, but I do I see
36:45
Speaker 4: more wellness programs, more wellness benefits that are being offered
36:51
Speaker 4: to even a small employer. So I see that the
36:55
Speaker 4: business owner has the ability to change the culture. Now
36:58
Speaker 4: it just becomes just make a decision that you're going
37:02
Speaker 4: to the.
37:05
Speaker 1: Right see they can find like you don't have to
37:08
Speaker 1: do this on your own. There are resources there, it's
37:10
Speaker 1: just you being intentional about bringing them in. And I
37:14
Speaker 1: think again, if you're the leader, people look to the leader.
37:18
Speaker 1: So if you're working long hours, if you're not eating well,
37:21
Speaker 1: if your body is off, if you're you know, stressed,
37:25
Speaker 1: your staff members are going to say, well, I guess
37:26
Speaker 1: that's the way we all should be.
37:27
Speaker 5: The leaders is showing me the way.
37:29
Speaker 1: So again, the leader has to prioritize their own health
37:33
Speaker 1: well being and take care of themselves if they expect that.
37:37
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's on I'm not saying it's I'm
37:39
Speaker 1: not justifying. I'm just saying people look to that, and
37:41
Speaker 1: that's that's how they mimic like, oh, I guess that's
37:43
Speaker 1: how we're supposed to behave.
37:44
Speaker 2: Right, Well we do we do what we we do
37:47
Speaker 2: what we see how well we're told?
37:49
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, yeah, you know.
37:51
Speaker 3: And I get it from the emplorer side.
37:53
Speaker 4: I mean I was had a small business and sometimes
37:57
Speaker 4: to get to a deadline, you got to work the
37:59
Speaker 4: laid out. But again, people, what people perceived may not
38:04
Speaker 4: always be the reality.
38:07
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is years ago.
38:11
Speaker 4: I don't know what movie I saw this movie and
38:14
Speaker 4: the young girl was looking in the window and what
38:18
Speaker 4: she thought she saw.
38:21
Speaker 3: What she thought she saw, and.
38:22
Speaker 4: I don't remember the movie was different from the reality
38:26
Speaker 4: she looked at her and when she found when she
38:29
Speaker 4: found out the truth. Even when I saw that that image,
38:33
Speaker 4: I thought, oh, and then when I realized, I'm like,
38:36
Speaker 4: how quickly did we come to the conclusion negative conclusions?
38:41
Speaker 4: Just because you see a business owner working, maybe in
38:44
Speaker 4: the month of December January to make a deadline, doesn't
38:48
Speaker 4: mean that that's how they you know, that's their life,
38:51
Speaker 4: and I think we need to put it in perspective.
38:53
Speaker 4: But the thing is, I don't leave things up to chance,
38:57
Speaker 4: because the human mind is will always think on negative
39:00
Speaker 4: note and I think the best way to combat that
39:03
Speaker 4: is to to communicate and have that, you know, so
39:09
Speaker 4: you could say.
39:09
Speaker 3: Look, you know, you know, I'm all about health and wellness.
39:12
Speaker 4: I know that we have a deadline and we may
39:14
Speaker 4: have put in a few hours more to be able
39:16
Speaker 4: to meet this deadline, but let's all focus on staying healthy.
39:20
Speaker 4: You know.
39:20
Speaker 3: There has to be a conversation.
39:21
Speaker 2: Around well in deadlines. There are a lot of extra
39:25
Speaker 2: deadlines during the holiday season and the year and the
39:29
Speaker 2: year first year.
39:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that would be I'm I'm thinking Heather,
39:36
Speaker 1: because there's a lot more we can go in here.
39:38
Speaker 1: But I think that would be a whole nother episode.
39:40
Speaker 1: I would like to talk with because Stacey about planning deadlines.
39:44
Speaker 1: How do like you just said, Stacy, like, how do
39:46
Speaker 1: we do this in a healthy way? That's outside of
39:48
Speaker 1: the holiday season, that's just in general, right, how do
39:51
Speaker 1: we deal with with deadlines, burnout, trying to get the
39:54
Speaker 1: things done? How is that achieved? And how do we
39:56
Speaker 1: do that in a healthy way. I would love to
39:58
Speaker 1: have another whole episode that If you're both up.
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Speaker 3: For that, sure, I would love to do that.
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Speaker 5: Let's go for it.
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Speaker 2: Talk.
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Speaker 1: It's just amplified with the holidays, right, But but this
40:11
Speaker 1: is a this is a challenge we face, you know,
40:13
Speaker 1: depending on what your what time of year, if you're
40:15
Speaker 1: if you're a tax person CPA. Well that's that's you know,
40:18
Speaker 1: the different types of seasons right where you're crunched and
40:20
Speaker 1: you have to get things done. So I think that
40:22
Speaker 1: would be another great topic about health and well being,
40:25
Speaker 1: planning for your potential burnout, you know, deliverables and doing
40:30
Speaker 1: it in a healthy way. I mean, the holidays just
40:32
Speaker 1: adds a whole nother layer in there because we have
40:34
Speaker 1: more dates, more things I got to get done right right.
40:38
Speaker 2: Well, and in truth, David, it actually, depending on your
40:42
Speaker 2: past experience, that's more than a layer. It adds two, three, four,
40:47
Speaker 2: five layers to it, right right, you know. And and
40:51
Speaker 2: the reality is all the things that you're doing all
40:55
Speaker 2: year long still need to be done right, all these
40:59
Speaker 2: things right.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, as we're getting close to the end of the
41:05
Speaker 1: episode here, because I think we've talked about some really
41:07
Speaker 1: good things, just getting people number one conscientious of the strain.
41:11
Speaker 1: Like you just said, Heather, there's multiple layers, so if
41:13
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about them, you better start thinking about
41:16
Speaker 1: them now as we're going into the end of the year.
41:19
Speaker 1: Be prepared and not cut unaware. And I think you
41:22
Speaker 1: know what I heard you say, Stacy is it's both.
41:24
Speaker 1: It's a two way street. It's the employer, but it's
41:26
Speaker 1: also you, the employee or leader. You have to take
41:29
Speaker 1: ownership up yourself and your responsibility. You know, it's a
41:33
Speaker 1: two way street. But I'll come to you Heather first,
41:36
Speaker 1: because I want to get like kind of key takeaways
41:38
Speaker 1: and things that you want to leave listeners on the
41:40
Speaker 1: podcast to hear from you as to what really if
41:43
Speaker 1: you know parting words you want to want to share
41:46
Speaker 1: with the listeners today.
41:49
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is I'm stealing a little
41:53
Speaker 2: bit from Stacy here, but I think the biggest thing
41:56
Speaker 2: is is you need to make a plan, You need
42:01
Speaker 2: to be aware. You talked about intention, David. I think
42:04
Speaker 2: those really really are high points of the discussion today
42:09
Speaker 2: because and the other thing is that wellness is far
42:12
Speaker 2: more than what we're eating. It's our environment, it's how
42:17
Speaker 2: we interact with others, it's past trauma that we're coping with,
42:21
Speaker 2: it's deaf it's stress, it's all those things. And so
42:28
Speaker 2: knowing that the holidays have those additional layers, what is
42:32
Speaker 2: not prudent to take extra steps and extra precautions, be
42:38
Speaker 2: conscious about what you're walking into, like you said, David,
42:42
Speaker 2: rather than just letting it fall to crap at the end.
42:45
Speaker 2: Some people thrive in that environment. I'm not one of them.
42:48
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people who do not, and
42:51
Speaker 2: a lot of people feel hopeless by the end of
42:53
Speaker 2: the holiday season. And that's not something we want. And
42:56
Speaker 2: I think we can't take other people's health into our
43:01
Speaker 2: own hands. Their wellness practices into our own hands. Yes,
43:05
Speaker 2: they look to the leadership, but most importantly is that
43:09
Speaker 2: we cultivate a healthy work environment, and then the healthy
43:13
Speaker 2: work environment, we allow others to work and cultivate that
43:18
Speaker 2: healthy work environment even further. Right, Yes, that's what I'm
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Speaker 2: going to leave you with.
43:23
Speaker 1: Yes, while you say that, and I'm gonna get your
43:25
Speaker 1: thank fud the thoughts Stacey. One of the episodes we
43:29
Speaker 1: did last year, and this is I think a great
43:31
Speaker 1: resource because what you're talking about, Heather, is called the
43:33
Speaker 1: Peace Index Assessment, which anybody that's listening that wants to
43:36
Speaker 1: do this, it's going through and evaluating, like you said,
43:39
Speaker 1: your purpose, your place, the.
43:41
Speaker 5: People in your life, your physical well being.
43:44
Speaker 1: It's a very quick, easy, free assessment that I offer
43:46
Speaker 1: if anyone's interested they want to take that, just to
43:49
Speaker 1: give you a sense of where I'm at today and
43:50
Speaker 1: that could change tomorrow, the next week. And so we
43:54
Speaker 1: remember stay were on I believe you're on that podcast
43:56
Speaker 1: we were talking about like where do you find your piece?
43:59
Speaker 1: And so that last year kind of in a similar
44:02
Speaker 1: vein a little different but you guys can go back
44:04
Speaker 1: and listen to that on the Business Roundtable podcast. Just
44:06
Speaker 1: go back to look a piece index assessment and I'm
44:10
Speaker 1: happy to share that with you. So Stacey, final thoughts
44:13
Speaker 1: takeaways in the days of that, we need.
44:15
Speaker 4: To understand that holiday stress comes from multiple angles.
44:18
Speaker 3: It can be you.
44:19
Speaker 4: Know, your own personal expectations, it could be social expectations,
44:23
Speaker 4: and then the pressure that you have on your job
44:26
Speaker 4: and that you have to take ownership of your own wellbeing,
44:31
Speaker 4: and so it starts with you being intentional with your
44:34
Speaker 4: own health. On that note, understand that as an employer
44:38
Speaker 4: or as a business owner, that you can also you're
44:42
Speaker 4: also responsible for the culture that is created within your
44:45
Speaker 4: own company, and that a lot of times employers who
44:49
Speaker 4: allow the employees to create the culture face the issue
44:53
Speaker 4: of having that backfire when they have you know, unhealthy mentally, physically, spiritual, spiritual,
45:00
Speaker 4: unhealthy employees because it's going to affect the business crosswise.
45:03
Speaker 4: And I know that that's a whole nother discussion, but
45:07
Speaker 4: just know that the employer, as a business owner, you
45:09
Speaker 4: do have some influence within the company itself, not just
45:18
Speaker 4: pre planning planning the whole year, but also planning during
45:21
Speaker 4: the holiday season. But ultimately it comes down to you,
45:24
Speaker 4: the individual, need to decide that you're going to take
45:27
Speaker 4: charge of your health and and you know, if you're
45:30
Speaker 4: going to pull a couple of people up and to
45:31
Speaker 4: be healthy, bring.
45:32
Speaker 3: Them with you.
45:33
Speaker 4: Uh go, go and job. Don't go to the holiday party.
45:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, say no to that.
45:42
Speaker 3: Then create your own so.
45:46
Speaker 2: Teeny glass full of water and it is.
45:53
Speaker 1: It's been a blast having you both back. I see
45:56
Speaker 1: future episodes in our you know, coming up with both
45:59
Speaker 1: of you. Uh, this has been so fun. Thank you
46:02
Speaker 1: Heather and Stacy for being back on the podcast and
46:05
Speaker 1: just sharing your insights on how it could be healthy,
46:08
Speaker 1: healthier and being more intentional about taking care of ourselves
46:11
Speaker 1: as we go into this holiday season and uh, you know,
46:15
Speaker 1: live live, live a life.
46:17
Speaker 5: Well yeah amen, thank you all right, thank you brother
46:21
Speaker 5: so much, Thanks.
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Speaker 3: Everybody, Thank you, pleasure, thank you.
46:27
Speaker 2: Stacy is always wonderful hearing you and look for upcoming.
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Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you,