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Episode 319 "Tye Tribbett" · The Baller Alert Show

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  Speaker 1: Word with me here you know b T know how
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  Speaker 2: The butler back something.
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  Speaker 1: of me, they get a little They called me love.
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  Speaker 2: I go by the name of Farri. I go by
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  Speaker 2: the name you know, bt CEE T for that time,
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  Speaker 2: driven and the build.
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  Speaker 4: Shriven man, grab you.
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  Speaker 5: Time. He got.
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  Speaker 2: Three of them, the father then all three you're supposed
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  Speaker 2: say amen. After that you can do whatever you want.
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  Speaker 2: You hold it down.
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  Speaker 6: That's all I said, hey man, before Kurk Franklin, I
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  Speaker 6: mean with Kirk Franklin, I feel like kicked it off
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  Speaker 6: when he like kind of merged like you know, hip
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  Speaker 6: hop with gospel like made it kind of cool.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 6: And you know I knew him when I was like
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  Speaker 6: very very young, but I knew that type of music.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, it seemed like a shift happened, you know,
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  Speaker 6: after him and it was like, you know, you had
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  Speaker 6: Mary Mary, and then you had Ti Trivia, and it's
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  Speaker 6: like you guys just had a like a new way
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  Speaker 6: of like relating to everybody, like especially the culture you
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  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, and mixing it with gospel and
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  Speaker 6: making it cool.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that. It's just crazy to be in
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  Speaker 2: that line when you say kurk the Mary marry and
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  Speaker 2: then time, Oh that's me.
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  Speaker 4: And you brought the energy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You was always like that.
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  Speaker 8: So my dad played the organ in the church, you
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  Speaker 8: know what I mean. My mom was at the choir director.
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  Speaker 8: So I always wild see them like you know, So
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  Speaker 8: when I started playing or whatever, I just always energetic,
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  Speaker 8: always brought it. So I didn't know I was energetic
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  Speaker 8: or crazy till I went like outside my little family church,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean, with our fifty members, they
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  Speaker 8: oh that's my cousin.
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  Speaker 2: They all know time crazy. But when I when I
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  Speaker 2: would go out, whoa, I'm like what what? You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 8: So I always had this energy. I've always had this
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  Speaker 8: like this thing. And you know, I'm glad people don't
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  Speaker 8: kick me out of churches no more.
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  Speaker 6: Can we go back now, we can't assume everybody know
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  Speaker 6: like this is this is the Barler Show and you
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  Speaker 6: know what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Team Aquarius in the building, Late Aquarius.
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  Speaker 2: But you know you late to the party that we
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  Speaker 2: got in Courage. Yeah. Yeah, man, New Jersey, the rural
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  Speaker 2: streets of Camden, New Jersey.
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  Speaker 5: Uh. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: My church, like I said, was a very small church
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  Speaker 2: growing up in Camden.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: Of course I was acquainted with the culture, but we
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  Speaker 8: were so legalistic, very rich, strict and uh because you
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  Speaker 8: had you was at Pentecostal. Yeah, nothing the earrings, no,
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  Speaker 8: no pants for the girls, no make up for the girls.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 8: I couldn't basketball, bowling, none of that stuff. Can't go
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  Speaker 8: to movies or none, none of that stuff. So I
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  Speaker 8: wasn't really in them streets, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the church. And that's why they had
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  Speaker 2: church every day that we couldn't do nothing else. You
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  Speaker 2: had church six days a week.
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  Speaker 8: Seriously, yeah literally literally it's not like services, but like
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  Speaker 8: but you just had stuff to do, enough to do
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  Speaker 8: every every day because my parents were like the leader.
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  Speaker 8: So it was like either a rehearsal or a meeting
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  Speaker 8: and then.
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  Speaker 2: All this stuff. Every every day. How did that make
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  Speaker 2: you feel? It was normal to me? I didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't know. It wasn't I didn't know it
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  Speaker 8: was abnormal. You know what I'm saying. I grew up
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  Speaker 8: in that system. I grew up in that way of life,
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  Speaker 8: so I thought, you know, holiness and coming out of
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  Speaker 8: the world meant staying in the church, not at on
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  Speaker 8: the streets. I didn't realize it was a mindset or
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  Speaker 8: a heart set.
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  Speaker 2: So it was strict.
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  Speaker 8: But I didn't realize it was strict until you know,
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  Speaker 8: freedom was presented, and then it's like, oh, hold on,
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  Speaker 8: I don't have to do it that way.
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  Speaker 2: I can. You know, what do you mean freedom was presented?
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  Speaker 8: Well, what I mean by that is an enlightenment, like
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  Speaker 8: when I when I started traveling and seeing the world
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  Speaker 8: outside of my church, I started seeing God more broad.
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  Speaker 8: How old were you around this, sixteen seventeen. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 8: started playing very young for other groups, other groups and
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  Speaker 8: stuff like that. And when I just went to the
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  Speaker 8: let's just say the Baptist church, not even let's not
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  Speaker 8: even talk about seeing the rest of the world. That's
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  Speaker 8: my Pentecostal church. And then the group that I'm playing
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  Speaker 8: for like a little choir in the area is singing
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  Speaker 8: at a Baptist church.
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  Speaker 2: Very different, okay, extreme, the extreme culture shock, like whoa,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 8: Because we weren't allowed to go to Baptist church and
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  Speaker 8: Joey was crazy back then. So it's like to experience that,
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  Speaker 8: it's like hold on, man, you know, it kind of
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  Speaker 8: broke me out of just that that rigid thought process, like, yo,
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  Speaker 8: God is bigger than my church.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, God is bigger than that. That's it. Don't have
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  Speaker 2: to be that way. So I see that as an
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  Speaker 2: option to freedom God.
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  Speaker 8: You understand what I'm saying, Like just the thought process
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  Speaker 8: or other the other ways of thinking is an option
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  Speaker 8: to me. So when I saw it, I took it.
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  Speaker 8: I took it because I never want to don't. I
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  Speaker 8: don't do go with handcuffs. I don't like bondage.
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  Speaker 4: I don't likes y'all like y'all freedom. But it you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's all good.
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  Speaker 3: This is happening and you're seeing this freedom. What about
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  Speaker 3: your parents?
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  Speaker 2: They were that was that a challenge?
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  Speaker 8: They were supportive? Okay, they were supportive. They say, hey, man,
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  Speaker 8: go do it. You know they knew I was grounded.
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  Speaker 8: They knew I was anchored in you know, holiness and
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  Speaker 8: righteousness and I was saved. So it was like, uh,
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  Speaker 8: they trusted me in those environments and still holding on
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  Speaker 8: to my you know, integrity, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And for the most part, I did.
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  Speaker 6: You know, and you are the second son of four kids,
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  Speaker 6: so you were like an example, like, you know, they
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  Speaker 6: trust you to kind of lead in a way, right
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  Speaker 6: as girl.
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  Speaker 2: Boy me and then little sister, little brother.
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  Speaker 8: So girl boy, girl boy. So me and my sister
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  Speaker 8: always fought because she's the oldest girl and I'm like
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  Speaker 8: I'm the man, you know, you know what I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Saying, right, So yeah, the leadership kind of like fell
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 8: I'm my father's namesake, I'm the second, I'm junior or whatever.
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  Speaker 8: So it kind of just kind of even now I'm
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  Speaker 8: being real with y'all, this week and my father had
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  Speaker 8: a health scare, so you know, heart failure and all
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  Speaker 8: that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: He had a heart attack. He had several heart attacks
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  Speaker 2: about twelve years ago, so we just been monitoring him.
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  Speaker 2: So it's been real.
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  Speaker 8: This weekend was scare. Like literally each the Sunday, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I'm a preaching like what you know, since my family scrambled.
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  Speaker 8: So anyway, just on the leadership tip. Now everybody's like,
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  Speaker 8: you know, Tye.
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  Speaker 2: You know what we're gonna do.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just like, you know, I'm just as
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  Speaker 2: fragile as everybody else. But you know, I've been that.
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  Speaker 2: I've been that for the family since I can remember.
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  Speaker 2: To be honest.
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  Speaker 4: Where are they at now?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Great question.
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  Speaker 8: My family to my younger siblings moved to Orlando with me,
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  Speaker 8: and my sister was in town this weekend looking at
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  Speaker 8: the houses this stuff too.
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  Speaker 2: So all the siblings are about to.
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  Speaker 6: Be in Florida, and then your parents are still and
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  Speaker 6: my mom came down as well for Resurrection Sunday and
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  Speaker 6: she's also looking to move to Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, everybody.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And I'm trying if my dad can do it,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean. I'm like, Yo, I said
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  Speaker 8: it straight up, live or die, do it in Florida.
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  Speaker 3: You're on the radio in Orlando, Yeah, on iHeart Radio.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, what's up that radio station that you're on. You're
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  Speaker 9: on on Sunday morning? Yeah, yea yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go,
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  Speaker 9: let's go. We connected it too many different ways.
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  Speaker 3: Extremes Okay, yeah, I'll wrap it up.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you mess up, I'll fix it.
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  Speaker 4: Real know, how is your dad doing today?
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  Speaker 2: He's doing better, Thank you so much. He's doing way better.
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  Speaker 8: He's responding. He's responding well to the medicine and everything.
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  Speaker 8: So he's had scarce like this throughout the twelve years
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  Speaker 8: and he bounced back. So this is another bounce back day. Literally,
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  Speaker 8: I got the text someware, so I'm like, thank you God.
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  Speaker 8: We just want to get him healthy enough to get
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  Speaker 8: him to.
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  Speaker 2: Florida for sure. Yeah, because sometimes that's different.
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  Speaker 8: He's in Jersey, like Camden area, New Jersey, so still
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  Speaker 8: that familiar environment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean where he was born and raised.
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  Speaker 8: Sometimes you just need to go somewhere to see a
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  Speaker 8: palm tree and just something different and that'll spark healthy.
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  Speaker 2: I heard that that palm tree.
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  Speaker 10: I tell you something.
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  Speaker 4: No, I feel you.
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  Speaker 6: But going back to Camden, New Jersey and your journey
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  Speaker 6: to the TI tribute that we know, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you had like a traumatic moment when your parents divorced
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  Speaker 6: and you went out, you went to the clubs, and
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  Speaker 6: you kind of you know, got into a situation that
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  Speaker 6: kind of shaped your career because you got with Vivian
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  Speaker 6: Green and that whole story.
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  Speaker 4: Can you let us know about that?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so of coase you we wasn't allowed to do nothing,
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  Speaker 8: no no, no. Parents split up and that was like
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  Speaker 8: a culture shock to us. I say it now like
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  Speaker 8: when my parents got a divorce. People like, okay. Back
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  Speaker 8: then it was like, especially in the Pentecostal church, you
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  Speaker 8: never respected leadership to da da da da da, just
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  Speaker 8: before social media and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a shock to me.
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  Speaker 8: And I was kind of like everything they've been telling
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  Speaker 8: me is a lineman bumped the yo. I don't care
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  Speaker 8: about none of this stuff. I'm going to the clubs.
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  Speaker 2: And so I went to clubs. I went. I went
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  Speaker 2: to the club because they only I can't.
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  Speaker 3: Go to club man, ask you you went to the club.
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  Speaker 3: Which club did you go to? And what year and
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  Speaker 3: what songs did you who?
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  Speaker 8: I went to the five spot in Philly, everywhere in Philly.
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  Speaker 8: I got you, bro, I got the song. The songs
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  Speaker 8: that I heard was mostly the ones that I played.
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  Speaker 8: So I went to like live band clubs with DJs too.
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  Speaker 8: So when I'm talking tough like I went to clubs,
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  Speaker 8: I really went to just play.
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  Speaker 2: What Jesus.
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  Speaker 4: He was in the Time and the Air were Freeway,
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  Speaker 4: and then.
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  Speaker 2: In the Roots. In the Roots, yeah, j Dillo, all them,
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  Speaker 2: all all them. So how about you talking about though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 8: I was playing for most of them, the Roots and
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  Speaker 8: Jill Scott and Music Soul Child and Floyd Trees and Green,
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  Speaker 8: yeah blow all all of them was all in that,
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  Speaker 8: you know, same CIRCLEA good music right there, very good
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  Speaker 8: Neil Soul was. I was definitely heavily into that, and
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  Speaker 8: so that that kind of again expanded my view of
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  Speaker 8: God and all of that stuff, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: And so when I got with Vivian Green, her and
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  Speaker 2: my cousin were kind of.
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  Speaker 8: Like talking and then uh we relationship talking, relationship talking
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  Speaker 8: romantic relationship.
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  Speaker 4: Roller Coaster.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, that song is actually dedicated to him, but anyway, no,
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  Speaker 8: I already got a text before about that, so I'm
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  Speaker 8: not going there anyway. Yeah, So she was going to
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  Speaker 8: get her record deal with Columbia Records, like, y'all, you know, toy,
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  Speaker 8: I want you to come do the music, I said, Okay,
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  Speaker 8: I grabbed a couple of people from my choir, y'all
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  Speaker 8: did the background. A couple of people from the band
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  Speaker 8: you know, uh, we just rocked out and Tommy Matola
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  Speaker 8: and Donnie Einer and then what's over you know, Sony Records,
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  Speaker 8: and they was in there.
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  Speaker 2: It was like VIVI and we love you. That's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Who's that guy?
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  Speaker 8: Because remember I'm still on there, like y'all, I'm still
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  Speaker 8: let's do it, and I'm doing all these custy stuff
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  Speaker 8: like that. So they're looking at Viv and looking at
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  Speaker 8: me like so they were like her producers was like,
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  Speaker 8: that's a gospel guy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Viv is the focus. Like we're gonna sign
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  Speaker 2: viv and the gospel guy. I'm like, what in the world.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't have no black and white, I had no
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  Speaker 8: demo tapes, I have nothing. And in about ninety days
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  Speaker 8: we had a contract sent to my house. They haven't
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  Speaker 8: heard a song, they didn't hear it, they didn't see
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  Speaker 8: the group, they did nothing. So I got signed to
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  Speaker 8: Columbia Records off of that. So that's like kind of miraculous. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: they heard my music after.
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  Speaker 2: I got signed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they didn't really have very many gospel artists
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  Speaker 4: on the label.
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  Speaker 2: They only had Mary Mary at the time on the
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  Speaker 2: Columbia thing. And then it was myself. Then they had
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  Speaker 2: of Kimbarell and then men are standing in a couple
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  Speaker 2: of other people.
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  Speaker 8: So that was a very unique situation. So when people
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  Speaker 8: ask me what do you do to get signed, I'm like,
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  Speaker 8: I don't know what you gotta do to get signed? Well,
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  Speaker 8: especially today, everything is just wide over. But to day
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  Speaker 8: you just go online and go viral on them.
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  Speaker 2: A story like that is very rare now literally how
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  Speaker 2: does it happen now?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it?
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  Speaker 7: Like?
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  Speaker 3: It's very numbers driven too, so they're.
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  Speaker 2: Looking social media, looking at social.
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  Speaker 3: Media numbers, and if you have a brand that can
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  Speaker 3: sustained without them, then they're gonna do is package you up,
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  Speaker 3: repackage you up, and then.
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  Speaker 2: Put out Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it because
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  Speaker 2: it helps.
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  Speaker 5: Labels don't want to take chances anymore, they don't want
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  Speaker 5: to take investing money.
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  Speaker 2: So it's the money that because if they don't get
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  Speaker 2: that money back, they don't get that money back. The
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  Speaker 2: money back on the chef.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they curated to you a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally like maybe a thousand artists on the l
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  Speaker 3: maybe and they're going to go to whoever has the
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  Speaker 3: most smokes.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a lot of attention when we first
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  Speaker 6: and that's what I say. That's a good thing. When
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  Speaker 6: you were like number two. Yeah, all the tensions on you.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, we was like the we was like the piggyback
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  Speaker 2: off of Mary Mary stuff. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: They were killing it. So did y'all have artists development?
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  Speaker 5: Nah?
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  Speaker 2: Artist development in the church is church?
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  Speaker 4: Gotcha develop yourself in the word.
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  Speaker 2: You want to get a new artist in the gospel,
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  Speaker 2: go send them to a revival, I mean you feel
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  Speaker 2: you gotta be on point though, No, for.
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  Speaker 8: Real, those are the hardest audience is yo. I'm not
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  Speaker 8: talking spiritual nothing like that, just a regular yo. And
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  Speaker 8: I grew up Philly Jersey, New York. Like the Apollo audiences.
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  Speaker 5: Yo.
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  Speaker 2: We would go up there and have to find out
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  Speaker 2: how to get through to this audience y'all, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. And so they'll just sit there and
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  Speaker 2: look at you like yes.
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  Speaker 8: So that really helped my presentational performance because growing up
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  Speaker 8: in that and that was my regular I had to
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  Speaker 8: learn how to any crowd, any age, how to get
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  Speaker 8: through to you, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So you get the teenager and bit mama right right.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it now, but it was hell then, it's
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  Speaker 2: a different ground.
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  Speaker 8: Really, Yeah, he was doing that's like Lebron. That's like
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  Speaker 8: you're saying Lebron's dunks look easy easy.
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  Speaker 6: No, but that's just all the respect to you and
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  Speaker 6: appreciate everybody you know who came before us, and appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: You didn't have Instagram or anything that at your disposal
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  Speaker 6: that you can stuff out.
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  Speaker 4: You had to be this your own street team.
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  Speaker 2: Flyers.
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  Speaker 8: We had flyers, right, let's get the color paper flowers.
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  Speaker 8: I used to draw the fall and all that stuff
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  Speaker 8: on there, the little bubble words. I used to literally
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  Speaker 8: be like come see time TRIPU da da da da. Yeah,
• 14:04
  Speaker 8: And we used to give our flyers and stuff like that.
• 14:05
  Speaker 8: I'm like, man, was how you built your audience?
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, literally doing that literally going around literally.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: Just because people heard about you.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I have to go see that.
• 14:16
  Speaker 8: Yes, Yes, we had a huge like ground swell. We
• 14:19
  Speaker 8: had a huge, like little movement going on. Like people
• 14:22
  Speaker 8: would come to our rehearsals. It was every Monday night
• 14:24
  Speaker 8: and I would start with like a little Bible study
• 14:26
  Speaker 8: type thing because everybody was just from everywhere and I
• 14:29
  Speaker 8: just make sure we're on the same page mentally and spiritually.
• 14:31
  Speaker 8: So that turned into the preacher I am today, just
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: trying to make sure we are good. I used to
• 14:36
  Speaker 8: call it tag session. Let's just talk about God. It
• 14:38
  Speaker 8: wasn't nothing deep, but it was like, yo, did you
• 14:40
  Speaker 8: know that when I think of the goodness of Jesus
• 14:42
  Speaker 8: and all these that's not in the Bible?
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Did y'all know that?
• 14:44
  Speaker 8: Little stuff like that? And then we would just talk
• 14:46
  Speaker 8: about God for a minute. Then that turned into Bible studies.
• 14:48
  Speaker 8: Then I just turned into whatever. But anyway, that was
• 14:51
  Speaker 8: all Mondays and then we would rehearse. So some people
• 14:54
  Speaker 8: just came for that little Bible study moment and left out.
• 14:57
  Speaker 8: Some people came late and just came for the rehearsal
• 14:59
  Speaker 8: performed part, and we would just be like literally flicking
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: lights and stuff in there, so people like get a
• 15:04
  Speaker 8: little show going on. So that kind of grew us
• 15:06
  Speaker 8: as well. Again, no social media, so you had to
• 15:09
  Speaker 8: be there to experience it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: You learn about it, and then ye made more people.
• 15:13
  Speaker 8: Come exactly exactly. It wasn't even no direct TV like
• 15:16
  Speaker 8: are recording now and watching later. If you're not in
• 15:18
  Speaker 8: that moment, you missed the moment. So people came from Delaware,
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: New York, Connecticut, Baltimore just to come to our rehearsals.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Man, it was such a thing. Yo. Wow, it was
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: such a thing.
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: So when you got your deal and you know, you know,
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: you had the Life album, it was a different experience
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: as far as being signed.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: But how did that change you?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't like, I'm sorry to cut you. I'm sorry
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: about that. I didn't. I didn't like that experience too much.
• 15:46
  Speaker 8: I was already ready to not be changed by the industry,
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So I already had this
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: thing like, all right, we got signed. You know how
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: these labels do they tryed to So I had, you know,
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: my crew and were like, we ain't changed.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: D da da da da.
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: So it's like almost like anything he did, I kind
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: of bucked up against, even if it was better for me.
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: So from the product from the production of that album,
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: they had James Poyser, who's part of the Roots crew.
• 16:08
  Speaker 8: You see him every night on Jimmy Fallon.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: That's so he produced that first album and.
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: I kind of was like because it was more Neil
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: soul sound, more how how de'angelo and how everybody he
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: was producing Lauren Hill.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: It sounded more like that. It didn't sound like how
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I get down. It was very controlled. It was very
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: But what I mean by that is, if I have
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: a dunt.
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: Got the bet bet bet bet he said, take all
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: the bet bet bettos out. Just duned dune simplified, simplified,
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: not controlled.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you. He simplified it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: And I learned a lot in production from the from
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: him simplifying a lot later on. But in the moment,
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: I was just like, you trying to change me control,
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean, Like, well, let them understand
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: you first, and then they need to understand. So I
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: was we were bucking heads a whole lot. I had
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: like fifty people with old do you at the time?
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Twenty one?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: So do you think the age kind of played a
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: part into it too?
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: I was immature maybe, yeah, yeah, I thought I already
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: knew you know, kids know everything.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: And then I'm on this demonic label. You know what everything.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Don't forget I've been a constant. Don't forget. Yeah, these
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: demons ain't changing.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: What you're trying to do. He was trying to take
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: my symbols out. Well, you heard what Michael Jackson said,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: about so, well, that's.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Michael talking about this. You're gonna get me. So that
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: experience was kind.
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: Of like oil and water because of my immaturity and
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: me just trying to be tires. What got me signed tires?
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: What's gonna people gonna love? But that really he really
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: helped me. That whole thing kind of helped me package
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: myself and present myself to people who had no idea
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: who I was outside of the church.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: So but then the Victory Live album, now I was.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm producing this one now.
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: That was hoy, yeah, said I'm doing this, So I said,
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: y'all did so are live performances from the Life project.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Were like crazy because I put on my arrangements back
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: in there. Now you put in the bout it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: So a lot of performances way bigger than the album
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: because I put everything back in there, and then people
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: started to love that. So now I'm like, let me
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: do this album my way now. So Victory was like
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: my first one that I produced, and that was like
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: they try to categorize it, like what is this this
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: gospel R and B? This gospel hip hop? Because I
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: got some some like Celtic type stuff in there. And
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: then I got some straight up revival type church stuff.
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: Then I got like, some cool what is this? I said,
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: I just it's just Kingdom music. I just said it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: just Kingdom music because I think every style should be
• 18:47
  Speaker 8: represented in the Kingdom of God. Every preach, every type
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: of everything should be representing the Kingdom. So I just
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: call it Kingdom music and that kind of call.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: And people love Big Three every to this day classic.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: When you hear Big Day, I'm like, how did that happen?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Because I had a guy
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: in the choir who became a sudden to me, y'all.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know how it happened.
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: He just stay on my crib. You know, his mom
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: was a single mother. His mom was already at my church.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: I already knew the family whatever. He was about to
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: get married, and he was in a car going to
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: do the seating arrangements for the reception with him as
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: his fiance on a Sunday after church, got in a
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: car accident, passed away back just like that, like thirty
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: days before his wedding, and we were preparing for what
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: is now called the Victory Album.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't have the song Victory at that time. We
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: just had that a little bit.
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: He came to me he was going to school at
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: HU and Hampton and DC. It said, Tye, yo, if
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: you do a.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Go Go song, the DNV gonna go craze. Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: I was like, what, Like, all right, No, I'm telling you,
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: ty you gotta do this song. Virginia, Maryland, DC will
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: go crazy, Houston, Dallas.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Boy, So I came out with that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: I tried it, like and the first I kind of
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: heard like a cab Calloway long suits, Harlem nights, like.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: With the horns that I just changed the put that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: beat on it. When I started feeling when I feel
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: it at the house, I know, well, I.
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: Don't care when I feel it, I don't care how
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: it affects nobody else.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: It already blessed me.
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: I'm already in it, and that's the purpose of the
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: song to me at the moment, and then my family
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: feel it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I'm good, yell to me. I don't really project it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: gonna be a hit.
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: If I'm satisfied, I'm like, thank you God, I'm good.
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: And when Victory hit like that, I knew it was
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: gonna be something.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that caintapulted you success wise. How did
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: you handle that? That that that success that came from
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: that album Good and Bad?
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: You say the bad part first, I'm about to you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: I was because the good could be assumed. The day
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: Victory came out, I was in jail. What oh way,
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: that's the song on a life album. No way, but anyway,
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: we're talking about victory though I was in jail. I
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: was in jail for traffic tickets. So my wife and
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: I get married. We live in this apartment for a year.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Leasa's up. We moved a little bit higher. You know, good,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: we're good.
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: Times a little you know what I'm saying. So I'm
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: getting tickets and warrants sent to these to that apartment.
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: I ain't there no more. So by the time Victory here,
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: we're in the house, you know what I'm saying. Or
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: we're about victory about hit, we're in the house. We're
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: a little more settled. So all my males coming to
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: the right place now. So I got like all these warrants.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: It was. It was bad, y'all.
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: I must have been late to every rehearsal I've ever
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: had in my life. How fast I was speeding, getting
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: these tickets. So I had to do like a tour
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: of courts, like I had to go to the Candy Court,
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: the Philly Court, Dinner, the morths Yo. So I had
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: to do community service first, out there picking up cigarette
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: butts and out there cleaning up beaches and drug and
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: all the needles and stuff off that.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I'm doing that first and my last court. It was
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: literally my last one, and I'm thinking he gonna let
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: me even eat the pay it. Probably have to do
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: some more community service. He was like, I guess.
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: He was like, yo, you think you could get away
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: with it because I don't know. I was like, hey, sir,
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: I'm a reverend.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't go I can't go to jail.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I'm a reverend.
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. He didn't care about that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: And the more stuff I said I was doing, it
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: was like it felt like he was like it was
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna teach you a lesson, brother, yeah example, yeah, Like, well, Sir,
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: I do that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay.
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: So I felt that from him, like, oh, let me
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: stop saying what I'm doing that. Let me shut up
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: for a minute. So he gave me thirty days, like bang,
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: you gotta do thirty days. So worse than thirty days, y'all,
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: he said, because your reverend will let you get off
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: Saturday and Sunday. So I had like I had, like
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: when people got to work, sometimes they let you through
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: your week and then you got to go in Saturday
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: and Sunday to serve your time. I got out Saturdays
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: and Sunday. So by noon Saturday, I clopped out, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: by Monday morning, seven am.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I had to check.
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: That's the worst part, checking myself back in there every Monday,
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: Yo at seven am. So I was on a six
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: Flags Great Adventure tour at that time, So that's Saturday
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: or whatever Sunday I would do six Flags. I would
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: do Great Adventure. People say, Toddie taking pictures. I'm like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: y'all have no idea I'm going tomorrow. Y'all have no
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: idea where I'm going tomorrow. I got in a nice
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: suit on the day, but I'm having an orange suit
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: on tomorrow. So during this is when albums came.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Out on Tuesdays.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: So that Tuesday, June or May or whatever it was,
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: I was literally in jail and my wife called me,
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: like baby, well, I called her, I said, that's one
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: of my calls for that day. Baby's selling out everywhere.
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: You know that, I said, I don't I don't care
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: that I'm selling out everywhere. I'm you know what I'm saying,
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: I'm locked.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I'm locked up right now. I got an RN sat
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: on with some Orange Vans on and I don't care
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: about nothing.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: So you were locked up when victory dropped.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Wow, I was losing.
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: When victory came out when everybody was winning off that,
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: I was in the worst position in the world. It
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: was like, Hell, it's smelled horrible to people. My whole experience,
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: my family knows. I call it jail tales.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: So I'd be like, oh, come on, your dad's talking
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: about jail, Like, come on, jail tales. In my house.
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: I got stories after story after story, and the whole
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: time I'm in there, Bobby Jones is still like playing me.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: So when I come back in, they like, church, Hey
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you church, We just saw you yesterday on b ET.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: What you doing in there?
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Like, so did you say any souls in there?
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: God, did something Okay? When you preaching? I had got
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: a couple of like counsel counseling sessions.
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean, people were like just confess
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: to me like I was a pope or something, you
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like you know what I mean, Like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: hey man, you know I stole from my mom. They
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: would just tell me stuff and I would just like
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: talk to them, and I prayed with a couple of them.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: But yes, I need to pray.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: When I got to go y'all by.
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: I love y'all visiting, I was over for me. So
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: that was that was That was one thing. And then
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: at the same time, I'm dropped Tuesday. I had my
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: second child that Thursday. So the last month of my
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: wife carrying I was in it, stressing her out, doing
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: all that.
• 25:22
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• 25:26
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• 25:29
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• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I really have to ask you question. It's not gonna
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: be fun. I'm not trying to do your thing, brother,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And you did all this and you didn't cuss one time.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't cuss one time, and I was been cussing
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: up the storm like bro, like what, No, I've.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Got to go to jail on.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't cut one time. That was not my vocaboy
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: at that time, that was not in my sight force.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You never even thought, no, that wasn't in my second No, no,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: because I did that to myself when people.
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: Not too long after that, my wife and I almost divorced, right,
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: so infidelity, right, So I stepped out of the marriage,
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: and she's home with the baby, and I'm out here
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: being the king of the world. I'm getting all this attention.
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: This never happened to me. I'm going from a small
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: church to everybody screaming my name. People know me at
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: the airport, and I did not know how to handle
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: that attention. I could not handle that attention. I was
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: the ugly duck when I was the buck, too skinny
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: black guy in school. All my life, I wish somebody
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: would look at me. Twice nobody ever looked at me out.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: I ain't gonna prom I wasn't the JV either, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: wasn't nothing. Nobody looked at me unless I played or
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: did some type of some music or something like that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: There's no excuse. I made a horrible.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Decision, But the success brought that attention exactly.
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: So that's why the success of victory was amazing, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: it comes with a lot of temptations. And if you
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: ain't ready for that, your character don't stand up, you
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: gift think on mean nothing.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: In hindsight, how could you have avoided that?
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: More boundaries? More boundaries? Like after that, Now I got
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: all this accountability circle around me. I got this this
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: in place and this in place, and I got people
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: to talk to if I have accountability and boundary systems
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: in place now since then. But if I'd have known
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: it then, I would have been died it then. And
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: then she was going through postpartum. I didn't know what
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: postpartum was. She was just a crazy woman to me,
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean? Now everybody has understanding of
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: knowledge of postprodum or PSD. They are all these letters,
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. Add eight you know hg TV.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: You know we can explain people's psyche and emotions. Now
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: that wasn't you know what I'm saying. This is four
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: or six, So you know we didn't.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't know she.
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: I didn't know about postpartum. She didn't know about it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: I just thought she was tripping. She's like, yeah, you're right,
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: leave me.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I'm crazy.
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: I don't know what's going on. And it was it
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: was just kind of like that type of dynamic going on.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: And then being a religion, having a religious mindset, you
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: just take everything to Jesus and you just pray. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: I'm not saying nothing that's wrong with that, but that's
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: not it. That could be the first step, but that
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: cannot be the last step.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: You need to get help professional health.
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: Yes, talk to somebody. I don't care if it's Grandma
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: or a therapist or somebody. But under standing the Bible
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: setting all by getting get understanding. And we don't do
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: that in the church. We just pray and praise things
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: off and it's not off us. So I had that
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: type of mentality and practice. It'll get better if I
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: just praise them and pray, it'll get better. Like Nah,
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: sit down, understand your mind, understand her, understand her body,
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: Understand all of that, and get understanding so you can
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: get wisdom so that this stuff don't happen again.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: How did you guys get through that?
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, because you're on the road, Like you said,
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: you have obligations that you have to do for work.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Did you stop everything to do.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: Ap sblutely, everything just stopped for three to four months,
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: everything just stop. I ended, I had a group with me,
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: you know, a little choir with me. I ended that
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: I just started all over. I cut my management. At
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: the time. Everything was it was just me and her again,
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: building again. I said, we're gonna build this thing again.
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean, cause it became my thing,
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: and it was you know, I just kind.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Of like enjoyed my space regardless of what my family,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: you know, what was going on. So we built it together.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying. So she became my
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: manager first after all.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Of that, and she held you She was the first
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: one holds you down. What do you understand, y'all?
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: When we first got married, I didn't have I was
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: making two hundred and fifty dollars a week at my
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: family church. Her father passed her. Her stepfather looked like
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: the father since she was two years old. He passed
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: and left her some money. So when she was when
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: she was eighteen, she got it. I married her at eighteen.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: I was twenty one.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I said, I got you.
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: Bathed on Worr everybody on making two and fifty dollars
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: a week whatever, she took her money, of course, gave
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: it to us. She helped me get the first apartment,
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: She helped get the first furniture.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: She she like, I got it. I got it, bang
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: bang bang bang bang bang. And all I had was
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: a vision and a gift.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: And she told her.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I told her so. She had a job at a bakery.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: We had a gig at Sesame Street the day she
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: had to work, and.
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: The baker, the boss was like, Yo, you either gonna
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: do your your husband's thing or you're gonna build your
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: thing here. And I'm like, how she giving you an ultimatum.
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: You're nineteen, Like you know what I mean. So I said, Babe,
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: if you don't go to work today, if you sing
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: with me, you ain't never got to worry about that again.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: You ain't never got to worry about money ever again.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what made me say that, y'all,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: because I was like, you ain't never got But I
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: was shaking it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: He ain't never gonna work, God, for real, God, I
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: was shaking in my books, like, trust me.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: He was nervous. But she said, I'm coming with you,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and she's been holding me down ever since you had her. Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Period period so that's just.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: What it is.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Period, like we ain't gonna know where we twenty seven
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: this year. I love that, yes years wow black love.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes that it can work a lot of hearing
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: out stuff like that, Like no woman is about to
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: hold nobody down. No molds different now these days, right, Ye,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: it's like a man now he gotta pay for everything,
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: he gotta do for everything. He ain't got no money,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: he gotta leave more he at Really they don't have
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: no well you know what with social media.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very different now. My daughter fifty to fifty
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: with a man.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: What you got about that? As a dad trying to
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: have your daughters.
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: She's twenty, I got a twenty one about to be
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: twenty two, and seventeen out to be eighteen. So they're
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: starting to bring little you know, guys around at the
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: house and stuff like that. It's different from me because
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: their friends know who I am a little bit, so
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: it's a little different respects a little I don't know.
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: I don't get all the drama.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Are their guy friends from churches or one is.
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: Okay and then one is not. Yeah, my theres are
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: two very different ones like me and one is like
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: her mother.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just I'm just not scared.
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: But I just know the climate is very, very very
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: different now and now I feel sorry for whoever's dating,
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: but kind of feel sorry for like what it is
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: now because it's like, do you meet on social media?
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: Do you meet in person? Do you have how do
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: you how do you build trust?
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: How do you? I don't know how it is nowadays?
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: You're scared the cool world you got like Resa Tisa,
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: who met a man and who was a liar the
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: whole time.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: Yo, But quoting scripture, yo, how about that? Be careful
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: for the Bible thumpers watch for the fruit, not just
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: what they say. Look for that fruit, y'all in their life.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you. So it's bad. I feel I felt,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I felt you're paying a little bit. Brother. I don't
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: know what you're going through.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I was just I just look at social media and
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: I see what social media is, and I, you know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: I listen to your story and then I see what,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: you know, what society is today to where you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: women are talking about like you know, they don't want
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: to go fifty fifty on bills. They want a man
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: that's gonna, you know, pay for everything.
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: You feel like it's because they got so many options now,
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: like options now get somebody, you can date somebody in Russia.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: I definitely think social media has made it a more
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: variety of people to say, Okay, you want to do this,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: but this guy, you know over here in this country,
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: he begging.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: To pay my he went that green card.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: I hate that it makes people dispensable, the fact that
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: we have so many options now, people are dispensable.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: I'm good because you know you could just you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: go on your DMS and find so the value of people,
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: the value of human beings, the value of love, the
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: value of trust, the value friendship and authenticity to.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Me has gone down.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: How did you meet your wife?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Rehearsal.
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: Our families was in the she was in Canada. Candon
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: is this big. So her family had a church. Our
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: family had a church. Our families knew each other. My grandmother,
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: who was a reverend, did the ceremony for her grandmother's wedding.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so my.
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: Grandmother married her grandmother and her her husband. So that's
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: how close our families are. I remember seeing her maybe
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: here or there. If our churches did something together. And
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: she was a little you know what I mean, little kids,
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: A little cute girl. She gonna get me the time
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: of day anyway. So when I started the choir, she
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: was like hey, she came to rehearsal, like, hey, I
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: want to join the choir, but I don't have a ride.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: To rehearsal, Like could you pick me up? I'm like,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: anybody here, you're gonna ask me to pick you up?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I know, ire't know what this is. Pick rehearsal on Saturday.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: You calling me Tuesday? Yeah, I know what this is.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: So she's how. That's how we kind of started kicking
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: it like that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: And y'all were young too.
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: He was like sixteen, yeah, she I had to be nineteen.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: She had to be sixteen seventeen when we started.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Talking because y'all married at eighteen.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: She was eighteen. I was twenty one one. Yeah, so
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I had to be like going on twenty and she
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: was like going on, you know, six seventeen.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: What advice do you guys give your daughters.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: With relationships or yeah, like you know, picking somebody because
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: they're at your they're you know, almost one of your
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: daughters is past almost past age that you guys got married.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: So do you like, you know, do you recommend people
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: getting married young? Do you want them to find their way?
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: It's pros and consta both. You understand what I'm saying.
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: Somebody has to be worth whatever, Like somebody's gonna annoy you,
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: somebody's gonna irritate you, somebody's going whatever. Somebody has to
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: be worth you loving past the offense. I don't think
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: we can get past offense in.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Our society today.
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: So our advice to our daughters is, if you can
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: find somebody that you can still love beyond an offense,
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: your love for them is more than regular.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: People get cut off or your gar space as soon
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: as the defence happens. But a sense offense offense, like
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: somebody offends you, hurts you, disappoints you. I'm not going
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: to the party. He went to the party. I'll be
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: back at ten. You got back whatever it is that
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: would offend you. Most people can't get past that type
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: of betrayal or hurt or anything like that. If you
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: can find somebody that you can still that you still
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: want to pursue after an offense or a disappointment or
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: I would go as far as to say a betrayal,
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: but that's like in marriage.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: That person, to me is worth that space in your
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: heart and in your life.
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: What do I tell them though? What I tell my kids,
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: I don't have like a general thing for them. They
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: just have over communication with me anything.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: It just we talk. We talk.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: So it's not like a find somebody in dark skin,
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, or find somebody like skin.
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: It's just like, whatever's going on, talk to pops. So
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: we got that type of relationship. They can keep it
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: real with me. It ain't no judgment. So we walk
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: with them through every relationship. Even if been heartbroken, which
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: has happened, we were there with them through everything.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Question. So I'm approaching five years married and Congress wife, Yeah,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: what advice do you have for married couples, because it's
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: hard to see people be together, let alone five years,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: ten years, twenty years, thirty years.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: You don't.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I don't really hear or see that on social media.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like not normal anymore to me. Yeah,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: as I'm scrolling on my timeline, Yeah, yeah, I don't
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: see people I think married for a long time and
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: happily married at that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the temperature of our culture is just
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: so hot right now that if you touch anything, you'll
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: get burned. What I mean by that is, I think
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: what's necessary in any relationship, especially marriage, humility.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: That's like.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: If my wife does something I don't enjoy, or let's
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: just go to the extreme and say she lied to me?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Right, I first think have I lied to her? How
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: many times have I lied to her? Why did think that?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: That's to me, a humble approach to the how could
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you do that to me? People don't have that. It's
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: just how could you do that to me?
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: So humility, knowing yourself, knowing, being aware of how and
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: who you are can help you deal with those situations
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: you might argue over whatever. So humility, honesty. That's hard,
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, Because you don't want to
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: reveal yourself all the time. You don't want to get
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: naked with somebody. You know they the one where you
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: get naked with them and you're not ashamed, you know
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: what I mean. Adam and Eve was in.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: The garden, they was naked and not ashamed. That's the point.
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: So if I can show you the real me and
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: not be shamed, you the one honesty, patience. Everybody's not
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: on the same All of these are hard, bro. This
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: is why we don't see it. Patience, bro Yo, everybody's
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: not on the same journey. Y'all could be married for
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: twenty seven years and she's still got a soul separate.
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: You could feel like you should get you should have
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: had it by now, seel, you should know that by now,
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: and then she could feel the same way about you.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: You.
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: So it's that dance of considering yourself while you're walking
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: with somebody else, you know what I mean, considering you
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: while you walk with somebody else.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think we do that. We just think of
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: what we.
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: Expect from them, what we want from them, what we
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: desire from them. And it's a very narcissistic view of
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: a relationship where the Bible says that it's not good
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: for men to be alone.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna send him help. So the reason why another
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: human being.
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: Exists is for a help, not for sex. So I
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: need her to help. I got blind spots. I'm the man,
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: I'm the king, I'm all that, I'm the bread, but
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: I got blind spots. Not in life, you need to
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: watch out for Corey watch out for Stacy. Those blind
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: spots too, but blind spots in me. So a lot
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: of times the wife will reveal the blind spots in you.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: And I don't mean having a conversation like babe, I've
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: seen it'll just come out in relationships. So how she
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: expresses it, how he expresses it is a problem. Okay,
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: Last thing I'll say, communicate versus express. We express our
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: feelings but don't communicate. So you, babe, what's wrong. You're
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: expressing any emotion, but you're not communicating it. The husband
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: coming in, you're expressing something but you're not communicating it.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying.
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: So I'm learning now to not just express because I
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: could be very clear in my expression, not to just
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: express what and how I feel, but to communicate it
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: because I'm not been used to that growing up. Communicating
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: my feelings. I could communicate my thoughts, but how I
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: feel about it is another deeper level. And again that's
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: getting naked with somebody, So we can't be afraid of that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: And I don't think people are able to reach those
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: levels in their relationships, which is why it just either
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: stays on a certain level or it doesn't last.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: If it don't have that depth of patience, humility and honesty,
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: I don't know how I was going to thank you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: And I really like the concept that you and your
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: wife did when you wrote the vision out.
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: I literally wrote it like I literally wrote on a
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: piece of paper like this division for our live this
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: was gonna happen in our life, and I put it
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: in this. She has her commercial baking license, so it
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: was this cake glass up there. I just put it
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: in there and just sat it in there, and we
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: moved from house to house. I don't know what happened
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: to that thing, but everything got fulfilled.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: That's in it. So now we write our next you
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying in forty years or whatever.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: And that's leadership. That's why she trusts you. But did
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: she have any bakeries or do you know for investing
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: one or.
• 40:24
  Speaker 8: At our shows? At my shows like taste cupcakes, so
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: something like that cakes or whatever.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: She never wanted to go back into that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: I think she really dove into motherhood and when she
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: had when she had our kids, she like stopped singing
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: with me and she just focused on that to be
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: the mother.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: A lot of what happened with my wife.
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: She growing up without her father again, her her stepfather
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: died and then her natural father. She didn't really have
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: a relationship with growing up without that dynamic. As you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: you wrestle with identity and who you are, like she
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: wrestles with that and still some time a tennis match
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: to this day with her struggling to know who she
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: is and know her identity and be confident in that.
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: I say that to say, if you don't really know
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: who you are, she thinks a mother, I gotta be
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: a mother. However, she defines mother to herself. She just
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: you understand what I mean, went like totally overborn, because
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: this is gonna identify me.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: So I got a kids over.
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she did really assessed over it in order to
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: gain an identity or validity in life, you know what
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: I'm saying.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Or how do you support her? Navigate her through.
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: That, encouraging her, letting her know like, oh, you did this,
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: you're doing this, and you're not just that, you know
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: what I mean. You're an amazing mother, but you're also
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: very creative, you know what I mean?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: There's a oh, y'all got me going a little deep.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: But let me just just just just a little bit
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Bible study for you guys. In heaven.
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: There's a four faced angel, right face of a man,
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: face of a lion, face of an ox, face of
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: an eagle. The man represents humanity. Jesus is human. The
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: ox represents serving.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Or plow on the field. Jesus was a serve, he
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: was humble. The eagle represents like the bird's eye view,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: he was like a prophet revelation. And the lion represents kingship.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Jesus was royalty. I said all that to say, not
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to just explain Jesus, but Jesus is our example to me,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: so we have at least four expressions.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: There's something about for a winterspring, summer fall, north south
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: east west, four winds, four time zones, four chambers.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: To our heart, I just believe you're not just one face.
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: You're not just the mother, even though you're an amazing mother.
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: You're also an entrepreneur and the queen. And you never
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: lose the mother face, even though you're focusing on the
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: entrepreneur face.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: You're creative, and you ain't got to lose the mother,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to I like to explain it like that
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: on one creature, there were four different expressions. So I
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: think to not just not to just make one everything
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: you are, you more free than bound, just to try
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: to be the best that.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: I'm a creator, I'm a speaker, I'm a musician, you know.
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm a writer, a comedian to my kids.
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: I just I embrace my different expressions and not just
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: trying to make one thing who I am.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Amen, And you guys are expressing it and live church
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: in Orlando?
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: And did you and your wife one of that? When
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: did you guys want to do that? Decide to open
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: a church in Orlando out of all places?
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: We left Jersey and went to Houston for a year,
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: not for a year. I thought it was gonna be
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: there for a minute. I took like a youth pastor
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: job in Houston. It was like oil and water situation
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: situation there. So it didn't quite work out. So we
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: was like, let's let's just go somewhere. I'm not going
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: back to Jersey. I'm not going back to Philly. I
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: fell in love with shorts, you know what I mean,
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: in the in the winter. I fell in love with
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: a short. Yeah, a T shirt the birds. Yeah right,
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: So I want to shovel no more. I got two girls,
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: I got no sounds to help me shovel. We're not
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: going back to Jersey. So most of her family's from
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: West Palm Beach, Boca, uh, Indian Town, all that stuff
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: down there. Her family is very heavily in South Florida,
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: really all of Florida. So I like Orlando. I remember
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: doing the show in Orlando.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I just like the vibes. I like the people, like
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: the multiculturalism. It wasn't just black. I'm like Walter, Yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I said, baby, what about Orlando. Let's go to Orlando.
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: It's central. You wanted a little upbeat, you can hit Miami,
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean. I still travel, So that's
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: the perfect temperament, uh in tempo for my family. And
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: my kids were way younger at the time, so we
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: chose Orlando. And it's been, it's been. It's been amazing.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: It's been amazing.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: So when I traveled then at the time, she had
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: support of the family and the kids are like, what.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Disney is twenty minutes away, and let me tell you,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: they went every day. Yo.
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: Yeahs whoa, it's expensive. Yeah, they get the passing on
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: that stuff like two hundred dollars, and then they had
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: a nerve to eat, to eat.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I said, what, so you don't put three gushers in
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: your pocket and all of the day, so you can't.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: We fell in love with Orlando.
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: And then after a while I started feeling this, I
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: guess the spiritual climate of Orlando.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: And I just heard God.
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: I believe I heard God say, speak to the dry bones,
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: you know, and command them to live.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: That the scripture in the Bible that says can these
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: dry bones live?
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: And the prophets spoke and then like these bones like
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: came back to life, and they stood up and there
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: was a great army. So God was telling me some
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: dry bones here, they've been through a lot, they've been hurt,
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: they've been it's time to speak to them and bring
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: them back to life.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: So we called the church Live based off of that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Oh I love that.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: And what kind of churches is?
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: It is?
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Old school?
• 45:35
  Speaker 10: Is it is?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I tell you that it is youth. Ain't nobody fall
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: asleep in there? Right? I don't think.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: So.
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: Now they sing, they open up, they sing. I jump
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: up at the end of the singing, I speak, we
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: out of there. We do offering them out of there.
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: There's no program, there's no whole lot of hoopline stuff
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: like that. They sing, I speak, we fellowship love on
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: each other, and we were out of it. I say,
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: it's about ninety minutes. Okay, Oh that's great because we
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: be kicking it, we be jamming, just having a good time.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I love the culture of live. I love the flow
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: of it is.
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: My whole family is involved in this now, not just
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: me on the road singing, and they support me, go
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: dad on TV.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: We're all in it.
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: My daughter's doing dance there, and my other daughter's doing
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: children's ministry, helping the kids.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: My wife is a you know, family affair.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, you know, it never reminds me of kind
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: of like Eric Campbell and her husband and literally their church.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: And it's so funny how you guys came up on
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: the same label and you.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Guys are kind of like doing it even think about that. Yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: that's literally what's happening right now. Yeah, it's I love it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: We live in a city girl world filled with all
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: the dogs. You know, how does church fit in?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: How do city girls fit in? I believe you know?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Oh man, how does church fit in.
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: I think church fits in because at some point every
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: city girl is gonna need help beyond anybody around them.
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: They gonna need some type of soul mental help that
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: even you can get the best therapist. God is going
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: to make sure he's needed.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yo, I'm trying not to bang your table. He's a
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: jealous gud Yo. He don't play.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: He don't play nobody else getting his shine. He don't
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: play nobody else getting So you're gonna blow up. You're
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: gonna be a citygo You're gonna be the hottest you're
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: gonna be at until something hit your life that's gonna
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: make you fold your hands and seek.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Something higher than anybody.
• 47:33
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: So God makes hisself relevant just through storms, and he
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: don't like causing them, but he allows them to be relevant.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: This is so good right now.
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: They Jesus said go to the other side, and the
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: disciples were going on the boat to the other side
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: and a storm comes. It's like we obeying Jesus and
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: we went right into a storm. But then Jesus come
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: walking on the water and then Peter, you know, walks
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: on the water with him. God sent them into a
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: storm just to show them another side of hisself, you
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. So sometimes storms come to reveal
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: him in another way. So even in the city girl
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: world and in all this crazy and.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: The baddies, you know all that stuff. You know, my
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: daughter just be watching this. Sometimes it's entertainment, right, are
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: y'all not becoming this?
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: So in that type of world, in their real lives
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: off camera, something is hitting them even on camera, you see, Like, man,
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: they're gonna need the help and the strength and the
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: wisdom of the Lord.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: And whether they realize that now or later, I think
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: we're all gonna come to that.
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: The bombses, every niche, shehell bow, every tonshell confess that
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: Jesus Christ is Lord.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I'd just rather do it now then later.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's like you know, like you said, even
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: your daughter is indulgent.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: It's kind of hard to not see it, you know
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: when you have Instagram in so many social platforms, TikTok.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about it though, y'all? Are we
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: laughing at are we entertained?
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Or is it like, man, this is sad or it's
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: like that's just like my cousin to me, that's entertainment.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: I feel like people should know the difference between what
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: entertainment what real life really is.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: But kids don't know. Yeah, and that's why I'm asking,
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: like how do you navigate that? You know, especially having
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: a church as a pastor.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: You know, it starts at home. Yeah, our kids been new.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: It's the difference between.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Our grandmother's made us go to church.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: But it's just like now they're not going.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: You watching it on TV. You're not. You don't feel obligated.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: And even if you're in there, you on your phone.
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: It starts with the parents, man, which they don't have
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: a lot. They just got their mom and dads and
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: da da da da dah. But nothing and no one
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: will be more influential than your parents between a certain
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: age that's the fact, the age of when you start.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Knowing who you are. Forgot what that's called.
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: My wife will kill me right now, adolescence or the
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: age of accountabil whatever, between zero to five ors little twelve,
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: no one will be more influential than your than your parents.
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. If you don't have that,
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: you don't have an attachment to this world. You just
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: come out the womb and.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Just like who who should I be? Like what should
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I be like, okay, sexual read yes, I have something
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: So if you don't create that attachment, if you don't
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: create that influence, and I'm not talking witchcraft and controlling
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: your kids, I mean healthy attachments with them. If you
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: don't have that, they won't know the difference between crazy
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: or entertainment and real life. So the parents have to
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: instill that into them. All the goodness, all the purity,
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: all integrity, all the character stuff. And I don't mean
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: like a nun, but I mean a well balanced understanding
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: of the world and the way the world.
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: Should be, because, like you said, I don't remember verbat
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: on what you said, but it's like, you know, just
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: because you see something, you're not of it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Or yea yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: The Bible says we're in the world, but not of
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: So it's so so challenging to be surrounded by and
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: enclosed by something that you're you're not, You're not made
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: from the inside. You didn't see what I'm saying. So
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: but what you be, you be come what you behold, Right,
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: I say that a lot. You become what you behold.
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: If I keep watching that, I'm going to become what
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: I'm laying my eyes on. You know what I'm saying.
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: They say you're five closest friends. You become like them
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: the more you spend time with them, you know what
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: I'm saying. So the more our kids spend time in
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: front of this, the more they're gonna become that. But
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: if they're yeah, but if they're spending time with their
• 51:20
  Speaker 8: aunt or their uncle or you, they're spending time with you. Hey,
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: no phone dinners, we have no phone dinners at the crib,
• 51:25
  Speaker 8: no phone dinners. They're spending that time, and they're going
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: to become who they're beholding. At least at that age
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: is until they can make their own choices. And some
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: still rebel and be like, I'm not gonna do that,
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: but at least they have the option. I don't think
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: we have the option today, and that's scary to me.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: You know, another thing that was scary was when you
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: went viral for what people heard you say as far
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: as the church is whack, and that's what that is
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: what they said, that's what they heard you say. What
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: you said so much more than that, Yeah, So how
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: did you feel when that went viral? Shocked in that
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: same interview. I talked about how I visited a strip club,
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: and I thought that would go viral. But obviously people
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: didn't see the interview. They just saw that the clip,
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: and that's why they did that. That's why they chose
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: that clip, and that's why I did what it did.
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: I'm still from Candence. A part of me was like,
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: you know what I.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Mean, y'all gotta pray for me. Bro I was like,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: hold on, oh, it was right there, but rushing cuss
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: and I might have custed my sleep. I don't know.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Very just like to me, I'm like, y'all know what
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: The church.
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: Person that had an issue with what I said, first
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: of all, didn't hear what I said. I never said
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: the church was whack because I don't believe that. I
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: believe we are the church. We are the body of Christ.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: The systems, the politics, the all of that dumb stuff.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Oh see, I'm doing it again. It's whack to me.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: What's the dumb stuff? That's why that's what.
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: Let's let's say I'm thinking more psychologic, psychological than then theologically.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: So the thought process.
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: Around church when the like the rules, the rules, the perception,
• 53:08
  Speaker 8: when the bishop comes in. It's like, oh, it's like, yo,
• 53:12
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying stuff like that, if you
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: serve your church, you're serving God.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: That's not true.
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: You can serve God by serving the church. But it
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: don't mean you when you join. When you when you
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: get saved at a church. They ain't nothing wrong with this, y'all.
• 53:28
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying stuff like this. They put you like
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: on a growth track. So you you you get saved
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: in the church, your life has changed.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you Lord. I'm trying to cleanse myself.
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: Then they put you on a growth track in their church,
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: and then you kind of become a position in their church.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Now you the youth.
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: So the proof almost that God is in your life
• 53:49
  Speaker 8: is by like what you're doing in the church, or
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: how you're serving in the church.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Or he used to be a drug dealer, but now
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: you're deacon in the church.
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: Well do we have patience? Like does he forgive? Like
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: it's not about what I do in this building. And
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: I hear a lot of people say I love my church.
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: I love my church, and I ain't nothing wrong with that.
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: I don't hear a whole lot of I love God, yo,
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: I love my God, yo.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: God. The focus is these businesses with God's name on it. Everybody.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: I'm not talking about everybody. There's a lot of great gatherings,
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. Live churches one of them.
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: But for the most part, what I've seen in my
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: forty eight years on this earth is a whole lot
• 54:27
  Speaker 8: of stuff that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think Jesus was talking about. And I'm gonna
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: just leave it at that. What do you how do
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: you feel about mega churches?
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: What you mean like like the big churches with ATMs
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Lobby, ATMs in the lobby.
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know, passes getting on private jets and this
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: murky period because.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: The church's money. I don't do God, I don't get
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: on private church's money.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Put the cash on the screen.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: It's murky because the church. It's the two.
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: What I was saying is a business. The church ministry
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: is not. I'm here to serve you and help you, period.
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: But in order to do that, do I need a
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: building to do that?
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Okay? I might need a building. Now need my mortgage? Pig,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: can y'all help you with?
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: That?
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: Should be the dialogue, not five people staying with one
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: hundred dollars. So God can bless you. That's what I'm
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: talking about. You feel what I'm saying. Just say, hey,
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: we need windows on the joint because y'all help d
• 55:24
  Speaker 8: D you know, we just we just got keys to
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: our building. We're gonna move in there probably September. But
• 55:31
  Speaker 8: it's like, hey, we thank you. It's like, hey, we
• 55:32
  Speaker 8: need you, thank you so much, we need yours. They
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: about a ninety dollars who're gonna sponsor instead.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Of being a transparent versus just trasing.
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: God to fulfill your thing. You understand what I'm saying,
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: that's what God told you, or be honest with them,
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: like this ain't got this ain't about y'all. But God
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: told me I need to have legit.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: I got you thought you feel.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Me because I think people get rocked with you. I
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: think people he tried to get me out there the
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: whole day. I'm not going out there. He tried.
• 56:07
  Speaker 8: I think people will rock with you if you're really
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: because they understand it takes money to do certain things.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: It takes money.
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: So that's the that's the fine line between church and
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: just serving people and helping people.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: And we still need that.
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: We still need that money because now, what do you
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: need that money for your lifestyle or for what's what
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: we're doing here.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: It always been always look kind of weird to me
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: growing up when I always you know, come from the hood,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: and then I go to church and I'll be like, Mama,
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: why are we driving in this?
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: And the pastor we just gave him, ain't him my
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: twenty dollars for my lunch?
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: And that right there makes people not even want to
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: come back exactly.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: I'm like, rid the pastor say, living better than ninety
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: percent of the people in the church.
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: So I guess I have to ask how you feel
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: about that? Because you're telling me how you feel about it.
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: That's not fair or equal.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: We don't feel the same way with bosses at Popeye's right.
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: They can have a bends and their their their employees
• 57:10
  Speaker 8: can have aut right, I guess because we understand that's
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: a work environment.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Uh, what's what would be fair?
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: Then I would ask, I mean to me, what I
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: feel like what would be fair is that if you're
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: going to use God and you're gonna have people to
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: give you money for God.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Then my life should be changing.
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: Well, I feel like we should all be on the
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: same plan field you know, if that's if that's really
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: what the goal is, is to preach God and the prosperity.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I can't argue with that.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: It's the prosperity while.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: You driving, you know, you got passes on Instagram driving Lamborghinis.
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: And then you know the people that's at their church
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: is barely affording to pay their bills, but they still
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: going to church and they giving up their money and
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: stuff like that.
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: That's one uh if if if you go to a
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: church and who gives you money, like your job gives
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: you money, right, right, So you're gonna get what your
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: job gives you because that's your income from one place.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's all you got.
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: But if if a pastor is getting money from thousands,
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: it's gonna be more.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: You're saying it shouldn't all go to him.
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: I just I just feel like at least act like
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: I fail you right, act like we equal, Like you
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: understand what I'm saying. Because thousand people are giving me
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: a dollar versus one person, I'm gonna.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Have a thousand and you're gonna have one. Right.
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: I don't think that you're saying that you want you
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: want a piece of a pot I don't think BT
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: saying he wants a piece of the blessings. Yeah, Like
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: if you're telling me one thing and saying if I
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: do this, if I pray, then my life is gonna change,
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: and then it hasn't changed.
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: And you know, so how do you feel about people
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: who have UH programs and what is it called seminars
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: and all that stuff they selling onlines?
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: But they not using God to get my mind one
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: hundred they using God.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: They not making me feel like, Okay, if I don't
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: do this, God is not gonna love me. And what
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: I'm saying is that all these kids that's in the
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: hood and in the projects, and they family is making
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: them come to church, they're looking at their family struggling.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: And what I'm saying is like I'm not telling you
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: like the pastors shouldn't want to be good. I'm saying
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: that health these people don't just take their money. And
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: then you see somebody struggling or somebody parents can't pay
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: their bills, and.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Then you're just taking their money.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: You're driving off in a nice car and you know
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: they mom is a single parent looking for Jordan just
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: gave you their last And I think that's what we're
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: seeing in the climate now the pride of man.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: People being frustrated with the pride of man.
• 59:46
  Speaker 8: I've heard people say like, Yo, this situation wouldn't have
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: got that far had so and so humbled themselves or
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: came love. But they still pride. Like the pride is
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: frustrating the the victims. You know what I'm saying, So
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: that I don't mind my pastor having it, but you
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: walking by, the pride of man is really on display
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 8: right now, and it's frustrating people who.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Know what it really is.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: It's like, you want your pastor to be French, you
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But it's like, come on, man,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: we know such and such in this church. We know
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: she's struggling. You know she got five kids. We know
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: she's a single mother.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 8: And it's let me ask you this, if you had
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: a better house with your than your pastor, would you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: try to help him or would you be like God
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: got him?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I'll probably say God got you.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: See how it's turned, See how it's turned exactly.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I think I think, in.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: All seriousness, I feel like that's when the church should
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: come together to uplift. Like I feel like if we
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: all in church, and we all want together and we
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: all you know, worshiping the same God.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like we should all help each other.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: So if my house is better than my pastor house,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: I feel like I should come to him and say, Yo,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: what do you need from me?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: How can I help you?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I honestly feel like some of these megachurches have
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 8: systems in place to help give care to those who
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: are in need. I've seen that, and I've seen the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: what I call wax side as well, and what you're
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: talking about. But I have seen systems in place where
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 8: if anybody in the church has a need, you contact
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 8: such and such. They go through a process and their
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: service gotcha want you. This is just me in the hoods,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: just just what I saying. And I know a lot
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: of people like you. It's a lot of people feel
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 8: like I feel. So that makes you not want to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: go to church, Like if it's a bad if it's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: a bad waffle house here, do you not go to?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: No waffle houses? No knowlogy, No, No, I don't. I don't.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think that.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: I just think that people people sometimes in this day
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: and age, miss missed the message with the lifestyle. Okay,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like, yeah, God, they missed
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: the message, and you said they miss it. They missed
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: a message with the lifestyle that you're seeing on social media.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: So now it's like now you're saying, like pastors like these,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: these pastors have all this money. So now if you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: looking on social media, you not even really paying attention
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: what they preaching. You paying it, You're paying attention what
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: they have. And I'm just being honest because this this
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: is how I know a lot of young people feel
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: so and and some pastors attempt to be relevant.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: They probably do put on a chain because if you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: scrolling and I look humble, would you stop? You know
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: what I'm saying, if Drake is the next one looking,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 8: if that's what the young people, I'm not saying they
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: should do that.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 8: I haven't even talked to anybody about this. I'm just
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: thinking objectively right now. The pastor's attempt to be fly,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: he gonna have on a lowis shirt and speaking in
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: place a wag surfing.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Y'all not gonna get me, y'all, don't get me. Y'all
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: not gonna want a pastor.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: Got on a shirt.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: What's wrong? What's wrong with the pastor having a Louis
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Baton show wear that when you going to date, no
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: wear in front of people. That's browing it. Come on, okay.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: So when a drug dealer get money and they go
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: back to their hood and the is that disrespectful? He
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: not selling god, he's selling dope.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: So it's that, it's that part. It's what you what,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: It's what you shot you.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: You know what?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: For me though, for me it's also the bad the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: ones that get in trouble, hunt it and make headlines.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: That sometimes messes up my mind. So now when I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: see something, I'm half.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: All right, he on point? Can I be quick?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Always is this money coming from because he's actually doing
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: good or is this money coming from he's getting it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: From or even pastors who have you know, do things
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: that are not right to kids or or to their
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: their spouses.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: So it's a lot of that that kind of messes
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: with the people's mind. So then when you see a
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: really good pastor, sometimes you almost.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: Like skeptical and it's and it's the money too, because
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: we talk about the success that.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: You had, care about the money that a man Listen,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I want you.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: But you can always keep it real with us, Yeah,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: is it a god complex or a man complex?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: To me? Because if you all think.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: They present one thing, but they're really just.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: But are you gonna be like are you gonna be like, Oh,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 8: he ain't right. But I want God so bad I'm
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: gonna find somebody.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Whoever told me never to play with God? So therefore
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: when I meet someone I never met before, who would be,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: let's just go to a new church. My grandma should
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: never play with God.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: So that's a possibility.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: This man could be playing with God in my face,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna be like, nah, now I'm gonna fall.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Back from God, No, from this God. That's what that's
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: his point.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: That's an example of this is kind of like when
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: your parents got divorced and you thought one way the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: whole time, you kind of straight away, but then you
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: always came back. You didn't do anything bad when you
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: were gone, like at the clubs, but you found your
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: way back because.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: That was embedded in you.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: This is beautiful and it wasn't better than me in
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: that space.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 8: I literally, to me for the first time, heard the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: voice of God and he said, I know your father
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 8: hurt you, but have I ever heard you? I'm like, oh,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: who is that I've been playing. I know a flat
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: C in F sharp. I don't know the voice of God.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: I knew church.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 8: I didn't know God until that happened. And when I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 8: heard the voice of God, then it arrested me. It
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: gave me all that stuff. I began to develop a
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: real relationship with God, like just talking straight up, y'a,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna hurt man and building my a real prayer life,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: not a religious father. I had religious prayers before that.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 8: I heard Grandma and them prayer.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: I have religious praise before. Oh Glory.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 8: Now since that I left, everything I thought was real
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 8: about God was fake because maybe it wasn't real to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 8: me because I didn't even know. I thought I knew
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 8: his voice because I knew church atmosphere. So if it's like,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: oh he's here, he ain't run around the church.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: God is here. But for myself, yo, I had to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: go through that to know for myself that God is real.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: So now in any environment, fake preach, a real preacher
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: phony corny da da da whack on point.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: I know from in here how to connect. I know
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: from there.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: He is not.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: So That's what I'm saying.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: Don't let it to turn you from God, because you're
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: gonna need that anchor in you to know how to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: move in any atmosphere.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Yo, whether you're in the hood or you're in the church,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: you're gonna need that.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: You're gonna need that compass and that that that that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: God from within to protect you, to guide you, and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 8: so you never be lost.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: You always know what to do and just to piggyback off.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: That is just like over you know, Easter Sunday at
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: my church, the pastor was saying, you know, who do
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: you run to for forgiveness? Because you know he's preaching
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: the when Judas had portrayed Jesus and he tried to
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: go back and give back the money, and they wasn't
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: trying to hear it.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: They didn't accept him, nobody. He couldn't run to nobody,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So he's out like he
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: could fix it hisself.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: And then he hung him hung himself, and it's just
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: like you know who he was just asking the people
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: and who do you run to? Like I think like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: when these people, like you said, the kids and stuff,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: you know, they looking at sexy reds and all these
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: people and what they think they want. But when it's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: something really happens in their lives. They need to know
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: who to run to, and that's Jesus because he is
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: the way.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's literally what they should be hearing from
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 8: zero years old. You understand what I'm saying. When we did,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 8: like when we did the prayer Sunday for resurrection Sunday,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: he was like, man, who wants to be safe, who
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 8: wants to just start a relationship with God? So we
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: prayed them or whatever, and I was like, hey, don't
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: they don't stop here. Your journey starts here, y'all. So
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: I said, so just pick up a Bible, pray, pray
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: without knowing what you're doing. Read the Bible without understanding everything.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: Because we talk to our kids before they understand what
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: we're saying until they understand us. So keep talking to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 8: God til you understand. Keep reading the Bible until you
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: get it, because that's our father.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: So we do have him to run to.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: But everybody don't see or or not taught that option,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: so they're forced to not force themselves.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: And that is not the case. And had Judas waited
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: three days.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Don't preach to me, girl, don't preach to me.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Up in here, right. I have a seven month old
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: she about to be eight months old. I mean, I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: got five kids, but this is number five. But I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: just say, she doesn't know English. I'm talking to her
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: until she understands Yes.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: And God is doing the same thing, bro.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: It's a lot of people who just don't understand his voice.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: It's a little we say, ooh, something told me not
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: to go there when they had a shoot out there.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: So that's something.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: Is God that little that little we call it intuition, vibes, energy,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: whatever you want to call it. I believe it's the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: spirit of God leading us to safety, protection, wisdom, and prosperity.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: For him.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know, you know that may go wrong.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: Only last for the night, only one night though.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: But.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Joy coming to the producer of the show.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: So joy come in the morning.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: You have like a pastor community like are y'all like
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: in the community pastor community cool with oaths that are
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: that are like you. Yeah, Yo, yo, y'all got I
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: got comedian beef, He said, Yo.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Yes and no Wow, I got you.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Yo, I got you. You have punchlines, man, I said, Yo,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: it's yes and no for me.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: I don't I don't meet with all the pastors in
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 8: the community and all that stuff. We don't have like
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 8: meetings and stuff like that.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: They they do. I'm not always invited, and I'm cool
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: with everybody.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 8: Before I became the pastor in that church, I've probably
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 8: been to their churches or events, so we we we
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: probably crossed paths here there.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: So I'm cool with every body, but we don't have
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: like a network. Gotcha.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Now this is this random, but how did y'all
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: feel about Kanye West? Been a pastor for two years?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: He was a pastor whatever he was trying to do
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: Sunday services. He was trying to do something.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Did that?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Did that? Bother you? What he was doing this Sunday.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I think he wanted to come to to live at
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: that time, we.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: Rant a bigger church and on that to shoot the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: video to do. Yeah, he was going to different church.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: He was singing and doing their Sunday morning services.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: He did a couple in Atlanta.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I was like, Yo, you know, I've never
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 8: met him. I'll say I would like to have a
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: conversation with him first before something like that happens.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I love what he's saying. Jesus.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: Everything is like on point, but I just want to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: have a conversation before I just be like, yeah, you
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 8: know what I mean, I say, Kanye here, So.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: That never happened. I didn't feel bad. I loved it.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I was like, this guy screaming.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: Everything he was saying was on point. Everything the songs
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: was glorifying God. I had no real choirs what he
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: does now.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I mean in that and that time, it was a
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: little more.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: In that moment in time, it was exactly what it was.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: It was what it was.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I remember it because I was.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Like, oh wow, he was I was I was like,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: this is dope.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: But I always wondered, like, how does other churches and
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: pastors feel about the way he's preaching it?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, I love a little.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: Bit different after but it was a cleanup after he
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: made a mess with the black community.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: And then he went into see I know what black
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: people love God?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Is that what Trump doing?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, was we just talking about.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: Selling bibles? Now he wasn't talking about using God. He's
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: selling Trump selling shoes. Black people love shoes.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: It's like, you know, it's kind of blasphemous at the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: so you felt like that was I'm just saying it
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: was like a cleanup for you know what, Well, I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: done pissed the black people off.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: What the black people love more than anything. God, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to preach that now.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 6: It's kind of like I'm off of that and I
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  Speaker 6: got my wife round here naked. You know, I'm not
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  Speaker 6: sure that that is aligned with the word you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of that's just outrageous all the way, Lizus,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 8: He said, you know, I got a problem with Jesus
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  Speaker 8: because when I when I pray, he didn't come through
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  Speaker 8: for me, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Anybody just doing Sunday service, Yeah, a year and a
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  Speaker 3: half ago.
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  Speaker 2: So I just wish I could have a conversation with him,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But I love when he
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  Speaker 2: was doing it.
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  Speaker 8: I loved it at least Jesus was getting the attention
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  Speaker 8: like I hate Jesus or yeah, look I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I just love that it was being talked about on
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  Speaker 2: that platform. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So what would you say to him?
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  Speaker 8: I would say, we are his children more than he's
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  Speaker 8: our God. He's not obligated to do what we want
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  Speaker 8: him to do. We're obligated to do what he wants
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  Speaker 8: us to do. That I would open that by I
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  Speaker 8: got not my own on my on my arm, because
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  Speaker 8: I need that remind him the tattoo pastor.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my lord, I've been here the whole day. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so dark.
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  Speaker 4: You ain't no yeah a sleep on ye.
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  Speaker 8: I would just encourage that humility in approaching God, like, Bro,
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  Speaker 8: he didn't come through for you when you wanted him to,
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  Speaker 8: Like he doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't work for us, He doesn't serve us. We
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  Speaker 2: serve him.
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  Speaker 8: You understand what I'm saying. And that would be the
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  Speaker 8: first layer that I would try to communicate with him
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  Speaker 8: in another way. I don't know how it will say
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: it throughout the conversation. That would be my theme like.
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  Speaker 4: This, basically, just because it doesn't go your way doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean that you stray.
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  Speaker 5: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: One week they screamed Hosanna.
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  Speaker 8: The next week they said crucify him because they thought
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  Speaker 8: we were getting the king that was gonna kill Caesar.
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  Speaker 2: Where your army at you? Here on a donkey? You
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  Speaker 2: got these twelve guys with you? Wear your army. Are
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  Speaker 2: you're supposed to save us from this work?
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  Speaker 8: So because Jesus did not do what they expected him
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  Speaker 8: to do or how they wanted him to do it,
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  Speaker 8: he didn't have no army.
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  Speaker 2: He actually respected Caesar.
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  Speaker 8: He said render under Caesar with Caesars, give him his tax,
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  Speaker 8: give him his money. They're like, what, crucify him? He
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  Speaker 8: can't be because he's not doing it our way. And
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: we always do that. We don't scream, crucify him, but
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  Speaker 8: we turned the arm We turned from him if he
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  Speaker 8: doesn't do things how we want him to do it.
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  Speaker 8: But we're his children more than he's our god, you
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  Speaker 8: know what I mean. We belong to him more than
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  Speaker 8: he belongs to us. If that makes any sense, that
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  Speaker 8: makes it respective?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, We'll be right back. Stay tuned
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  Speaker 4: Only one night though. This is yeah right right, the
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: tours popping.
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  Speaker 6: You know you're gonna be back here in Atlanta June sixth,
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  Speaker 6: I believe, yeah, tune second. I'm sorry June second June today, it's.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: The something that, oh we have a church that day, y'all. Hey,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: the only one night though tour.
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  Speaker 8: I'm excited about it, going out starting May seventeenth, going
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 8: throughout June again. It's a big deal to me because
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 8: I'm going out by myself again. I'm grabbing some friends
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 8: in certain areas. So when I'm here, I'll probably pull on,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: you know, some of the artists around here, and then
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 8: when I'm in other cities, I'll do the same. But
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 8: primarily I'm I doing this myself, So that means a
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 8: lot to me that people are supporting it, that people
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 8: are buying tickets and people like we're gonna go see Tide.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: That means a lot to me.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 8: And on the business side, with the people we're partnering with,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 8: they can see that and be like okay, and they'll
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: put more resources and other things I want to do,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 8: like if I want to travel and do.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: A podcast or a service somewhere.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: You know, it means a lot to me that people
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: are supporting this tour because it opens the door to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: more things that I want to do. Only one night
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: though tour, y'all coming to a city they you it's
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: about to be crazy. I'm speaking, and the spirit. The
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 8: theme what I want to say overall that whole night
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: is basically, well, my theme is freeligious. I'm starting this
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: movement called f religious freedom, from religious practices, from the culture, church,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: and your family. Those are three things that tend to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 8: bind us. We already talked about the church. Culture can
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 8: be binding to. We talked about culture too, the you know,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: the shabby yeah. And then family sometimes could just be
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: a stronghold you can't move forward because this is how
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: we do here. This is da da da da, not
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 8: causing separation, but just an option of freedom.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: So free legions is the theme. I'm doing new songs, y'all.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: I'm doing new songs, y'all.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 8: It should be out, the single should be I don't know,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: but anyway, new songs, new music coming soon.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Only one night though, sitting near you. I'm too excited
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: about this.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 8: We're already planning it and we're already getting a little
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: setless and stuff together.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: Like you said, books maybe come in podcasts.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: All this stuff. Yeah, books coming.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 8: I got a book coming called A Secret Place, and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 8: it's basically what we talked about. The Bible says when
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 8: you pray. Don't pray like these pharisees all out in
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: the open. Go in the closet. Shut the door. And
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: your father, who is in secret, and if he sees
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: in secret, he'll reward you openly. I'm like he is
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 8: in secret. There's a secret place that we all have
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 8: where the Father speaks to us everybody, not everybody, not
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 8: just everybody, but every thing. God can speak and does
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: speak to everything he created. He looked at the wor
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: orders and says, stand up, my kids are coming through
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: with the red sea. He told the well, open your mouth,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 8: swallow my prophet. He he, he told that, He told,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 8: he cursed the fig tree. He he could speak to things,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 8: and he speaks to people. I don't care if you're
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 8: in the hood. I don't care if you never had
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 8: a Bible in your life. I don't care if you've
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: never heard of Jesus. That's something that secret place. God
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: is speaking to you. So we all have access to
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: God church are not religious or not. He loves us
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: enough to draw him to himself. So secret Place is
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 8: a book. Coming out is kind of just letting everybody
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: know you already, you already got them.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and uh, you need to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: we need to support that, get you on the best
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: seller list, you know, attribute to all your other trophies
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: that you yeah, because you are a success.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: Mann appreciate you so much. And I was gonna say,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: for the only uh the only one night though, Are
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: you sure gonna say?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: Luther van Drass is in my head for one night
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: for you know who has a great voice. But and
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: that's another thing Man R and B has changed a lot,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: I feel like because a lot of the older singers
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: used to come from the church, you know, and it's
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: it's you know, that's the conversation within itself. But the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: Only one night though song was that like in the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: midst of a word or something, because the way it
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: comes on, it's like cold, and that's like immediately for
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: people who don't understand it.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: I got a song a week gon b all right, yeah, right,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: So after that song, we're gonna be all right, it's
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: gonna be alright. And I was just flowing, it's gonna
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: be all right. We've been man doing for tonight.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: It just happened in that whole moment the song comes on,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 8: We've been man doing fortnight, but it came from We're
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 8: Gonna be all right. You know we've been mean doing
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: for at night, but joy comes in the morning.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: That whole song was a freestyle, y'all.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: It sounded like it because I was just like he
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: just preaching it, just saying that, and they just put
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: the music to it.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 8: Was like everybody was like that whole thing happened in
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 8: that moment, and we just decided to leave it just
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 8: as long as it is. The radio radio cut is different,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 8: but it's just like ten minutes long. Yeah, which just
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: leave it all over.
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  Speaker 2: You could pass forward if you want.
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  Speaker 10: So.
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  Speaker 2: People love it. They feel it.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: It's cool though it's a vibe.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: Yes, people are feeling it because it just can't It
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: was like a direct download. I think people just kind
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 8: of feel that that is happening in the moment.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: And yeah, only one night though. Tour on the way. Sure, man,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: we appreciate you betiding bother.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you for I appreciate y'all. Please listen. We gotta
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: get the jail tales. Next time you come back and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: you get.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: Ready to promote your book, because you got some I
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 8: gotta tell you these stories.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: We're gonna talk about it a little make a deal
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: you give a jill tell betill, you give a church, tale.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Church and tail jail. I definitely got church. I love it.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, before we get out of here that we do
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: have to have a pep talk.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: What's up everybody? This is tied trippit. Listen.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 8: No matter what you've been through or no matter what
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 8: you're going through, let me give you a little bit
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 8: of hope.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Right now. There is a guy who cares.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: I'm thinking of a Bible verse that says, cast all
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 8: your cares upon him, for he cares for you any
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 8: care that you have.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: It says cast it.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 8: That means throw it, get it off of you, get
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: the anxiety off of you, get the stress off of you,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 8: and give it to.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: The one who not only can handle it, not only
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: can God handle it, yo, But that scripture says he cares. Wow.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 8: I love the fact that you can give your cares
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 8: to somebody who actually cares for you. And remember that
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 8: weeping only endorsed for one night, but joy comes in
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 8: the morning. I remember being in Atlanta and it was
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: raining so hard and I was going crazy, and my
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 8: friend said, don't worry. If it's raining is hard, it
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: can't last long. And I want you to know that
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 8: in your life, if it's raining really really hard, that's
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: just because the enemy know his time is all most up.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 8: Be blessed, be encouraged, and God.
• 1:20:40
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