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The Bolt Report | 23 April · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Jess's the Reformed.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, our Home Affairs Minister says no to assimilation of migrants.
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  Speaker 3: I've never accepted the word assimilation.
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  Speaker 2: A university library is censoring our history of exploration for
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  Speaker 2: fear of offending activists, orso tonight Barnaby Joyce on the
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  Speaker 2: global warming activists who showed their famous tolerance today at
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  Speaker 2: a public meeting, and plenty more, including the latest ABC trick.
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  Speaker 2: But first the Liberals have got to get their story
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  Speaker 2: straight with the National Disability Insurance Scheme. There's some in
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  Speaker 2: peace in our saying how cruel the Albanize government is
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  Speaker 2: to take an axe to this bloated, corrupted, free money,
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  Speaker 2: free for all.
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  Speaker 1: And that's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I think what they should be saying is what took
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  Speaker 2: labor so damn long? You get this? Under the Albanezer government,
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty five thousand Australians suddenly said they
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  Speaker 2: were seriously and permanently disabled as well. That's true. In
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  Speaker 2: just the four years of this government, an extra quarter
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  Speaker 2: of a million Australians join the scheme saying they were
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  Speaker 2: also disabled. Talk about a government making people sick. At
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  Speaker 2: least yesterday we did get Health Minister Mark saying a
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  Speaker 2: butler saying that Labor is finally going to get tough.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to kick one hundred and sixty thousand people
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  Speaker 2: off the NDAs. Now the government willemong other things, test
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  Speaker 2: everyone on the scheme, all seven hundred and sixty thousand
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  Speaker 2: of them, to find the ones who aren't really seriously disabled,
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  Speaker 2: then boot them off. Now, like I said last night,
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  Speaker 2: this is fantastic. Although let's not get carried away about
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  Speaker 2: how supposedly tough this is, because even if Labor really
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  Speaker 2: does kick one hundred and sixty thousand people off the NDAs,
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  Speaker 2: that's still way less than the extra two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: twenty five thousand Australians who joined it under the same government.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a scheme that's been seriously wroughted, especially
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  Speaker 2: about indios providers, and the Liberals should be saying to
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  Speaker 2: the government cut and cut hard with our best wishes.
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  Speaker 2: Now some do, like Anne Russen, the shadow Health Minister,
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  Speaker 2: but others, unfortunately are exploiting the fear and anger of
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  Speaker 2: NDAs participants to now punish the government for daring to
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  Speaker 2: say they must all these NDEs people that've got to
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  Speaker 2: be independently tested to check whether they really are significantly
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  Speaker 2: and permanently disabled.
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  Speaker 4: Managed to really upset a couple of one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 4: people in Australia and their families. He's told people on
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  Speaker 4: the scheme, including our most severely disabled people, that they're
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  Speaker 4: going to have to get another assessment to prove that
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  Speaker 4: they belong on the scheme.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that was co Listion Front venture Melissa McIntosh, and
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  Speaker 2: the trouble is that she sounded exactly like Labor did
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  Speaker 2: five years.
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  Speaker 1: Ago when it then it was then a Liberal government.
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  Speaker 2: Scott Morrison's saying what the Albanezi government does today, let's
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  Speaker 2: independently test everyone on the NDAs to get rid of
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  Speaker 2: the fakes, and Labor then also exploited the anger of
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  Speaker 2: people scared that they had their funding cut and got
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  Speaker 2: those reforms stopped.
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  Speaker 5: Earlier this year, the Morrison government's secretive and disingenuous consultation
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  Speaker 5: on independent assessment led to significant mistrust about any proposed
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  Speaker 5: changes to the NDIS Act, while the plan to bring
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  Speaker 5: in independent assessments was scrapped after a successful campaign led
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  Speaker 5: by Labor and disability advocates together.
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  Speaker 2: So the Liberals can't afford to give in to this
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  Speaker 2: same temptation to attack, you know, to attack what they
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  Speaker 2: themselves once proposed. They should have said, point out that
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  Speaker 2: they did try similar reforms five years ago, when the
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  Speaker 2: NDAs cost us less than half the fifty billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: it costs today. Just five years later, it's more been
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  Speaker 2: doubled in five years the money labor has cost us.
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  Speaker 1: That should be highlighted.
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  Speaker 2: And you listen to the Minister for the NDAs today
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  Speaker 2: trying to wriggle out of this proof of Labour's horrendously
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  Speaker 2: expensive political opportunism.
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  Speaker 6: The Morrison government didn't have the benefit of an extended
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  Speaker 6: review of the Independent Review, which spoked thousands of people
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  Speaker 6: with disability. The Morrison government moved unilaterally without engagement with
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  Speaker 6: the community.
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  Speaker 2: Honest, sleep Really it took labor another five years after
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  Speaker 2: the Morrison government try to fix things to work out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: look right, okay, that this labor money pit really is
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  Speaker 2: being roughted rotten.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Now.
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  Speaker 2: One reason why it's a trap for the Liberals for
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  Speaker 2: now criticize Labour's attempt to reform.
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  Speaker 1: It is that the public is wide awake. Of course, do.
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  Speaker 2: Monumental NDAs rip off? Even the end of our bosses
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  Speaker 2: know it's a rought city, as they said today.
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  Speaker 7: Clearly there are people that should not be on the scheme.
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  Speaker 7: Their evidence is manufactured. They don't have the disability that
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  Speaker 7: they said they did, they don't have the need that
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  Speaker 7: they said they did, such as I don't know them
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  Speaker 7: traveling in and out of airports when they're supposedly requiring
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  Speaker 7: twenty four to seven care in a bed.
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  Speaker 2: So the coalition really doesn't want to be seen to
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  Speaker 2: be defending this or you know, be seen to be
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  Speaker 2: trying to stop labor now reforming the NDAs that we
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  Speaker 2: all know is terrible. Yeah, they should have said, tell labor,
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  Speaker 2: we will hold you to this promise, as the Nationals
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  Speaker 2: Bridget McKenzie said today.
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  Speaker 8: The big test for labor they couldn't land you know,
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  Speaker 8: the ten percent growth targets, the five percent growth targets.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see if.
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  Speaker 8: They can actually land this plane. And we wish them
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  Speaker 8: all the best getting it done.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: If labor does turn out to be all talk, then
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  Speaker 2: the Liberals can go for their throat and failure does
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  Speaker 2: look likely because the government look right now, it does
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  Speaker 2: have the NDAs growing by a crazy ten percent a year,
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  Speaker 2: then it claims it's going to cut that growth from
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  Speaker 2: like that to two percent for each of the next
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  Speaker 2: four years before letting it res again to five percent.
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  Speaker 2: He might ask why this curious dip for just four
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  Speaker 2: years starting immediately. Well, budgets have worked out over four years.
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  Speaker 2: It's called the forward estimates. This end is promise means
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  Speaker 2: that Labour can now pretend in next month's budget that
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  Speaker 2: it really is going to cut spending like that by
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  Speaker 2: a total of twenty two billion dollars in those forward estimates,
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  Speaker 2: which means that's twenty two billion it can now spend
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  Speaker 2: on budget night when it's been running fast out of
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  Speaker 2: your money. So the liberals, well, I say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: don't criticize it all what this government says it will do,
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  Speaker 2: say only that it comes too late, and then hold
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  Speaker 2: the Albanizi government to the promises it makes now because
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  Speaker 2: the country literally cannot afford it to fail. Now, you
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  Speaker 2: would think that all Austrands by now have been shocked
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  Speaker 2: out of this global warming madness that's possessed the country
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  Speaker 2: for what twenty years or more. We're paying such a
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  Speaker 2: high price now for this war against fossil fuels, higher
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  Speaker 2: power bills and our higher fuel prices because we don't
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  Speaker 2: have enough oil of our own for our own petrol
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  Speaker 2: and diesel with this war in the Middle East. But
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: today came more proof of not just the indomitable irrationality
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  Speaker 2: of the climate movement, but the dangerous intolerance. Now Woodside,
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  Speaker 2: that's Australia's biggest gas producer and today it.
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  Speaker 1: Held its annual general meeting. What a freak show.
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  Speaker 2: First, then before it all got a bit ugly, there
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  Speaker 2: were the protests outside making all kinds of wild claims
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  Speaker 2: about Woodside's next big gas project, the Browse development, which
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  Speaker 2: at its closest point would have a drilling platform three
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  Speaker 2: kilometers from scott Reef, which is three hundred kilometres of
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  Speaker 2: the West Australian coast. On is no one visits.
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  Speaker 7: It, it would mean the end of scott Reef, an
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  Speaker 7: ancient reef system that is teeming with life, very.
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  Speaker 1: Unique, pristine reef system.
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  Speaker 9: And it really just comes down to the fact that
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  Speaker 9: we're here to save scott Reef.
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  Speaker 10: The risk of an oil spill is definitely front of mine.
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  Speaker 10: You know, the community up in Broom in the Kimberley
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  Speaker 10: as well experience the Montara oil spill in two thousand
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  Speaker 10: and nine where condensate and oil spewed into the t
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  Speaker 10: orc for up to seventy five days straight, and that
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  Speaker 10: oil actually reached Indonesia, devastating wildlife and coastal communities.
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  Speaker 2: For a fact check, scott Reef won't be destroyed. More
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  Speaker 2: than seventy scientific studies were consulted in assessing Woodside's environmental
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  Speaker 2: impact there. And as for the oil spill in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and nine, No, the oil didn't reach the coast
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  Speaker 2: of Australia or of Indonesia or a team, says a
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  Speaker 2: government commissioned study. What's more, tests on four fish, sixteen birds,
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  Speaker 2: two sea snakes, and one green turtle, all found dead
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  Speaker 2: in the spill showed not one of them had been
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  Speaker 2: killed by the oil. I even checked out a reef
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  Speaker 2: by the way, you know, as a case study of
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  Speaker 2: what if a reef in the Gulf of Mexico, the
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  Speaker 2: Flower Garden Banks National Marine Sanctuary that has one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty gas and oil platforms around or near it,
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  Speaker 2: including one just the kilometer and a half away. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: the reef turns out to be healthy. And what's more,
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  Speaker 2: those gas and oil platforms are now home to marine life.
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  Speaker 2: For government assessments is they provide artificial substrate, meaning a
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  Speaker 2: home for sponges, brizoans, barnacles, hydroids, corals and fish communities.
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  Speaker 2: Comforting right, but science means nothing to people with the
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  Speaker 2: Green religion.
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  Speaker 1: Inside the wood for general.
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  Speaker 2: Meeting today, the protesters went feral, with one Green politician
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  Speaker 2: going on stage to disrupt the meeting with a whistle
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  Speaker 2: and other protesters saw on stage and screamed. I even
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  Speaker 2: reading The Australian that as soon as the new Woodside boss,
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  Speaker 2: Liz Westcott began her address, whale noises started coming from
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  Speaker 2: the crowd.
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  Speaker 1: That really is how childish the heckling was.
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  Speaker 4: This was driven by the exceptional performance at Sangama.
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  Speaker 6: And world class reliability at our operated LG assets.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how can you reason with protests like that?
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  Speaker 2: And that's the danger you see if you can't, and
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  Speaker 2: you can't. If you cannot reason, arguments then are settled
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  Speaker 2: with force, and that is what makes the green movement
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  Speaker 2: in May view so dangerous and even more so when,
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  Speaker 2: of course, you add the consequences of their campaign to
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  Speaker 2: stop fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 1: Even now.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is our Thursday regular commentator Bunaby Joyce. The
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  Speaker 2: One Nation MP and former Deputy Prime Minister Bunaby. Great
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  Speaker 2: to see you look protests like that right, screaming down people.
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  Speaker 2: That to me suggests they're not interested in debate. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: they're scared of it and they have no respect of
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  Speaker 2: the right of others to speak. They are bullies.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of.
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  Speaker 9: Them said, Andrew, how dare you well?
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  Speaker 11: How dare they? How dare they stand behind policies which
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  Speaker 11: has got rid of our power stations, given us some
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  Speaker 11: of the dare electricity in the world. How dare they
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  Speaker 11: come up with policies such as the safeguard mechanism, which
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  Speaker 11: is one of the reasons we're driving or have driven
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  Speaker 11: our refineries out of business, making us so vulnerable. How
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  Speaker 11: dare they force up the cost of living to make
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  Speaker 11: life almost impossible for people who are poor. How dare
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  Speaker 11: they turn up and in our Australia's attempt to try
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  Speaker 11: and make themselves protected against the vagaries of what we're
• 13:27
  Speaker 11: seeing in the world today, they stand, they stand in
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  Speaker 11: that place and say we will drag Australia down further,
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  Speaker 11: we will make you poorer, we will make you more vulnerable.
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  Speaker 9: And how dare they turn up to a public meeting
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  Speaker 9: where other people if they want to protest protests outside
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  Speaker 9: see this. They're so entitled, these people, they're so entitled.
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  Speaker 9: They're not enlightened. They're entitled green bile filled activists.
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  Speaker 1: Who want to destroy Australia.
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  Speaker 9: They won't be happy two her on our knees, and
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  Speaker 9: even then they want us gone. And this is you know,
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  Speaker 9: this is I think people are over them. I can
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  Speaker 9: tell you people are over these people that are over
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  Speaker 9: the Climate a Change Department.
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  Speaker 1: They're over climate policy.
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  Speaker 9: How dare he, by the way, advocate for my hills
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  Speaker 9: to be covered in wind house covered in solar panels?
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  Speaker 9: How dare he advocate for transmission lines to run backwards
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  Speaker 9: and forth, destroying the values of land? Actually, how dare
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  Speaker 9: he do anything about? How about I dare him and
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  Speaker 9: handing some of his money.
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  Speaker 2: But Bannaby, you know you can imagine if you and
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  Speaker 2: I turned up at one of their at a Green's
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  Speaker 2: annual meeting, or you know, Simon Holmes the Court meeting,
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  Speaker 2: blowing whistles, playing tapes at high volume of whale noises,
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  Speaker 2: screaming abuse, trying to hijack the stage, they'd be calling
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  Speaker 2: the cops. You know, it's a one rule for them
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: and another rule for us. It seems to me now
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  Speaker 2: the Albany is the government today, Barnaby. I want to
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: give credit where it's due. It said our fuel reserves
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: have now gone up during this war.
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  Speaker 1: Have listened.
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  Speaker 3: We now have forty six days worth of petrol in
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  Speaker 3: our stocks, which is ten days more than when the
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  Speaker 3: bombing of Iran are commenced.
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  Speaker 2: Ten days more supply of fuel now than at the
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  Speaker 2: start of this war.
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  Speaker 1: Do you give the government credit?
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  Speaker 9: Look, I want our nation to have stronger fuel security,
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  Speaker 9: and on this one, I'm quite happy to work with
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  Speaker 9: the Labor Party. There's nothing to benefit from our nation
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  Speaker 9: being dragged into the dirt, and I think we've got
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: to learn from our mistakes. We've got to build all
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  Speaker 9: refineries again. We've got to extract oil and to hell
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  Speaker 9: with those green demonstrators.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry about them.
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  Speaker 9: Extract oil and make ourselves oil secure. And right now,
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  Speaker 9: on the short term, we've got to find oil on
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  Speaker 9: the spot market as quickly as we can, and I'll
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  Speaker 9: be doing my bit to try and assist in that process,
• 15:57
  Speaker 9: because it's vitally important that there's no point to be
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  Speaker 9: scored by seeing our nation come to a grinding holt
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  Speaker 9: because we don't have any fuel, and diesel's a big one.
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  Speaker 1: If we don't have diesel, you don't have a crop.
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  Speaker 9: If you don't have a crop, you don't have a
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  Speaker 9: wheat harvest, you don't have wheat harvest. Yeah, well bread,
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  Speaker 9: that's a good place to start, and the rest falls
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  Speaker 9: away underneath that. So we've got to do what we can.
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  Speaker 9: And I don't want to score I've got score points
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  Speaker 9: on I don't want to score points on this one.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I'm glad they've got more fuel than people feared.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. The cost, of course, is another thing. And
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  Speaker 2: I just wonder which countries are missing out because we.
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  Speaker 1: Have more money than they do.
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  Speaker 2: The Albertizi governments promise NDAs reforms. I think it's good
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  Speaker 2: promising to kick one hundred and sixty thousand people off
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  Speaker 2: the scheme.
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  Speaker 1: Are you for that or against it?
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  Speaker 9: They should be kicking more off the scheme. You've got
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  Speaker 9: to look at it this way. For every person's on
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  Speaker 9: the scheme, they have to have the justification why another
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  Speaker 9: person goes to work and pay their taxes so they
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  Speaker 9: don't have to work. See, that's what they never talk about.
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  Speaker 9: They talk about the justification of why they feel they're
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  Speaker 9: entitled to be on the NDIS, but they never actually
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  Speaker 9: explain why another person has to go to work for them,
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  Speaker 9: and this money does not fall out of the ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody, some other person.
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  Speaker 9: Has to go to work sharing and pull out sheep
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  Speaker 9: or stack brick upon brick, or fix our engines or
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  Speaker 9: stand behind the.
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  Speaker 1: Counter at Cole's or Woolworth's are working.
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  Speaker 9: So another person coming on the NDIS and we have
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  Speaker 9: too many people on the NDIS. Now we have too
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  Speaker 9: many we're now we're heading towards fifty billion dollars. The
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  Speaker 9: NDIAS costs more than Medicare. This is ridiculous. It's heading
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  Speaker 9: towards the price of what we spend to defend our
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: nation and the defense it is. It's heading from seven
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  Speaker 9: hundred and fifty thousand people to a million people. This
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  Speaker 9: is absurd, and it's it's not that it's got a
• 17:56
  Speaker 9: slow down, it's actually got to come back the other way. Thak,
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  Speaker 9: you should put a cap on it and say if
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  Speaker 9: he gets his cap, we get rid of it and
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: we just start again. Because it obviously didn't work. And
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  Speaker 9: I don't know what on Earth, Shadow Minister Melissa Macintosh
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  Speaker 9: is up to I listened to that. She had a
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  Speaker 9: bet both ways, but it sounds like I know she
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  Speaker 9: believes that we shouldn't be cutting it. I'm not quite
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  Speaker 9: sure what she's saying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure either.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure either, have Bunaby, let us not forget
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  Speaker 2: that labour's promising to cut one hundred and sixty thousand
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  Speaker 2: people from the scheme. But under just the four years
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  Speaker 2: have been in power, many more than that have joined
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  Speaker 2: it two hundred and twenty five thousand. So really, you know,
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  Speaker 2: can we just go back to where we were before?
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce, love to talk to you, see you later,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you After the break. The professor who asked the
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  Speaker 2: Sydney University Library for a book by one of our
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  Speaker 2: most famous explorers and got this pages of censored material
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  Speaker 2: for cultural reasons. One of the great novels is George
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Orwell's nineteen eighty four. You probably studied it at schools. Hero,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak, is a bureaucrat in our future whose
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  Speaker 2: job is to rewrite history.
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  Speaker 1: Now you know.
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  Speaker 2: Orway's book was taught to us as a warning, a warning.
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  Speaker 2: But welcome today to the University of Sydney Library. Four
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  Speaker 2: years ago it announced the new policy for books in
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  Speaker 2: its collection that dealt with Aboriginal issues, that where collection
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  Speaker 2: material contains secret or sensitive cultural information, the library will
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  Speaker 2: strive to consult with relevant First Nations communities to determine
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  Speaker 2: who has access under what circumstances. And it hired this
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: man to help oversee it, Nathan Sentence, who describes himself
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: as an archival de colonist. And let me show you
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  Speaker 2: what this looks like. A British historian, I wanted to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: write about explorer Edward John Ayr, who explored parts of
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: South Australia and West Australia, giving his name to Lake
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  Speaker 2: Eyre and to my own old home territory of the
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  Speaker 2: air Peninsula. Air wrote a book on his travels and
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  Speaker 2: on the manners and customs of.
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  Speaker 1: The Aborigines that he saw.
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  Speaker 2: But when this British professor tried to access that book online, well,
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  Speaker 2: this is what you find on the University of Sydney
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Library website, page after page after page of the book redacted,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: not available online, mustn't read. I joined a short while
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: ago by that astonished historian, professor Lawrence Goldman, who has
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: taught at Oxford University, was director of the Oxford Dictionary
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: of National Biography and his executive editor of History Reclaimed,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: which is a project by academics fighting against people trying
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: to rewrite history. Professor Lawrence Goldman, thank you so much
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: for your time. First of all, what is your interest
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: in Air the explorer end in his book?
• 21:08
  Speaker 12: Okay, Well, you know him as a great Australian explorer
• 21:13
  Speaker 12: in the late eighteen thirties and eighteen forties who wrote
• 21:16
  Speaker 12: a very famous book about his explorations and the Aborigines.
• 21:21
  Speaker 12: But what you may not know is that he went
• 21:23
  Speaker 12: on to a career as a diplomat and he ended
• 21:26
  Speaker 12: up as governor of Jamaica, and he oversaw Jamaica during
• 21:31
  Speaker 12: a terrible rebellion in eighteen sixty five, when he acted
• 21:36
  Speaker 12: in a very draconian fashion and put down the rebellion
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: and one hundreds died, and he became notorious in Britain.
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: There were cours to have him arraigned on a murder charge,
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: There were inquiries and debates in Parliament, and for five
• 21:51
  Speaker 12: years he was the most notorious figure in the whole
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: of the British Empire. And so the question is, how
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: can a man who's actually sympathetic to our origin is
• 22:01
  Speaker 12: in the eighteen forties in Australia, behave in that draconian
• 22:04
  Speaker 12: fashion towards black laborers in Jamaica twenty five years later.
• 22:09
  Speaker 12: And that's the question I'm trying to answer.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And that, of course would help you.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: This book find that answer by telling you how we
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: thought about average and he's right here, so you go
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: looking for it. What was your reaction when you saw
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the university had redected large parts of John Are's book?
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, this book is available in libraries in Britain.
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: It was published in Britain in eighteen forty five. But
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: when I went to the Sydney University Library website, I
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: saw that pages had been redacted. So I of course
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: wondered what could they hold in their archives that led
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: them to redact these pages? Did they have something that
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: other libraries didn't have? And so I quite innocently contacted
• 23:02
  Speaker 12: them and said, look, I see you've redacted pages. I
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: don't quite understand why you've done that. What is it
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: that you've redacted? Is it something different from what the
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: rest of us have seen. I can go to a
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: university library in Britain and use this book, but what
• 23:15
  Speaker 12: have you got? And then I'm afraid we got into
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: two months of a kind of Alice in Wonderland, back
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: and forth where I'm asking straightforward questions and I'm not
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: really being answered by the library. And eventually the correspondence
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: just sort of ended and I took it. I wrote
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: to them, I said, well, I take you. You're not
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: going to give me access to this material and you're
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: not going to tell me what it is.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Did they tell you why you couldn't see it?
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: Well, they made it known that it was culturally sensitive.
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: And I tried to say to them, well, that's fine,
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: but I'm not doing anything that's insensitive. I'm just a
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: history professor trying to find out about the past. Try
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: to point out to them that this material is available freely,
• 24:05
  Speaker 12: and they indeed know that, because they said to me, yes,
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: we know that you can get it on the web.
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: So I'm still asking them, Look, you've redacted stuff, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: all I want to know is do you hold something
• 24:17
  Speaker 12: that's different from the stuff I've seen and other people
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: have seen. It's a very simple question. I never got
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: an answer.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: That this is absolutely extraordinary. Now I looked at the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: university's website, and they have explained that their policy generally
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: not speaking specifically about this issue, but that its policy
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: is to address wide ranging issues including access to culturally
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: sacred and secret materials, racism and inaccuracy, inaccuracies in the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: historical materials, and representation of first nation's voices. First of all,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: should that be a library's job.
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: Well, I've never come across it before, and I've worked
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: across Britain and America, and I've spent time lots of
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: time in Australia as well, and I've never come across
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: this before. I mean, I thought librarians went to work
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: to be librarians and to help people like me, and indeed,
• 25:18
  Speaker 12: anyone access materials, read them, work from them in good faith.
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: And they have a thirty five page protocol which you
• 25:28
  Speaker 12: have to work your way through. And I've never seen
• 25:30
  Speaker 12: something like that, such bureaucratic nonsense, when all you're trying
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: to do is free inquiry. And I have no other
• 25:39
  Speaker 12: motive than to as it will find out about Edward
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: John Eyre, his life and his place in the history
• 25:46
  Speaker 12: of the Empire.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: It's so extraordinary.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: So I guess you know, if you wanted to look
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: up as taking a book a random Caesar's Conquest of Goal.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: You probably wouldn't have system now to all the pages
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: where the clearly racist Julius Caesar talks about slaughtering goals.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It would be very culturally insensitive. I mean, is it
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the library's job to actually go back and deny people
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: access to the historical record to make up their own
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: mind about what was and wasn't done and for what reasons?
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: Yeah? Look, I don't really understand this. Subsequent you know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: I published an article about this, which you've picked up,
• 26:33
  Speaker 12: and subsequent to that publication, in the last few days,
• 26:36
  Speaker 12: the library has contacted me. It hasn't exactly apologized, but
• 26:42
  Speaker 12: it has said that I can have access to these
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: redacted pages. Okay, we're getting somewhere. But it then goes
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: on to say, and this is an answer to your question,
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: that the Aboriginists who are depicted in the book, and
• 26:58
  Speaker 12: remember this as a book I can get in any
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: university library in Britain if I want to have, if
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: you like, the possession of their cultural knowledge. And I
• 27:12
  Speaker 12: suppose that answers your question, because if we're dealing with
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: Caesar and Rome, or if I'm trying to write a
• 27:18
  Speaker 12: book about the French. According to these librarians, the French
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: have possession of their cultural knowledge and it would be
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: very difficult as a brit to get them to agree.
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: I'm sure if I wanted to write a book about France.
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: Now I'm being facetious here, if we applied this across
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: the board, writing history would be impossible. And I've never
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: come across the concept that cultural knowledge is owned by anyone.
• 27:46
  Speaker 12: It might be tested in a court of Australian law.
• 27:49
  Speaker 12: I've never come across the concept that somebody might possess
• 27:54
  Speaker 12: something called cultural knowledge. As historians, we just write about
• 27:58
  Speaker 12: lots of different culture in lots of different periods, and
• 28:02
  Speaker 12: nobody has the right to it. This was a book
• 28:05
  Speaker 12: that was published in London in you know, eighteen forty five.
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: I can't understand why I can't read it in Sydney
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: University Library.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Well, if it was published in London and it's about
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: essentially an English explorer, then surely the cultural knowledge is yours,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: not the libraries.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: They should actually give you the book with their thanks.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Professor Lauris Carvin.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: It's the most it's the most extraordinary story. And I
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: presume when they say cultural knowledge. They want some sort
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: of ownership over how you interpret it. I mean, the
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: whole thing is intellectual bullying and you know, and an
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: enemy of free inquiry. Look, I'm so grateful that you
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: raise this issue because I don't think ministrands quite know
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: how deep this rock goes in the institutions that you'll
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: be devoted to intellectual inquiry, not devoted to closing it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Laurence Goldman, thank you so much for your time.
• 29:07
  Speaker 12: Thank you.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: After they break something equally unbelievable, a Home Affairs minister
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: says he doesn't want our margareants to assimilate the panel
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: on that after this. Now, before it gets to the
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: extraordinary declaration of Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke give you
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: an update on the war in Iran and a big
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: reveal on who the ABC got to comment on it today.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Amazing.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Iran's regime still refuses to talk peace of the US.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: So the US is ramping up the pressure by stopping
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Iranian oil tankers. It's now deceptive three more in the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Indian Ocean to deny the regime the oil money that
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: it desperately needs, not least to pay for or pays
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: all the soldiers now around in retaliation boasts that fighters
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: in fast boats sees two cargo ships. Although it's odd
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: that the ship that the Iranians film loaded a ladder
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to let those fighters on board. It's almost like it
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: was staged.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Now. As for the ABC, well, you've seen you know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Iranians in Australia I've interviewed on this show, or that
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you've seen marching in our streets. These protests have generally
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: been supporting this war. They hate the Iranian regime, they
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: wanted to fall and hope the Americans can make that happen.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: But ABC Radio this morning found an Iranian expert who
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: didn't support this war. Really, I found this bit odd
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: that the ABC had to go all the way to
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Canada to find this expert. A little known broadcast called
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Samira Mina who declared it wasn't Iran at all that
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: was refusing to talk peace.
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: I'm not sure if it's if it's the Iranians at
• 30:56
  Speaker 13: this point, who are you know, trying to stall Perhaps
• 31:00
  Speaker 13: people who may have been angry prior to this war
• 31:03
  Speaker 13: being imposed are now understanding that it is actually Iran
• 31:07
  Speaker 13: that is under attacked. He saw their civilian infrastructures being bombed,
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: their public health centers, hospitals, bridges, universities. These are not
• 31:17
  Speaker 13: military sites. I spoke to someone who had a music school,
• 31:21
  Speaker 13: a very successful music school, had nothing to do. It
• 31:24
  Speaker 13: was not a military site anything. And you know he
• 31:26
  Speaker 13: had put his whole life savings into that music school
• 31:30
  Speaker 13: and it was ruined in an instant.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going WHOA now that music school story that was
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: about the school run by this blog who was actually
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: everywhere in the media left playing his instrument in the ruins,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and this strike at the building that included his school
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: and blew out the back of the bloc seemed unusually precise.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Israel said it was actually aiming a precision munition at
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the need at a nearby Iranian intelligence office. Just how
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: nearby that school, it didn't say, And I wondered, who
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: was this Iranian expert who was so critical of this
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: American and Israeli war happened to be in contact or
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: maybe just reading the papers about this poor musician who
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: was so defensive if Iran and so keen to declare
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that Iranians considered this in fact a war on them.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: And why did the ABC have to look so far
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: as Toronto to find her. Well, it turns out that
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: this expert of the ABC, this is a hard left activist,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: big surprise, who has praised anti Israel propagandist Greta Tunberg
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: while wearing her Garza shirt in sympathy, who has accused
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Israel falsely of genocide, and reckons the Bondai massacre of
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Jews is being weaponized to silence anti Israel electivists.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess like her.
• 33:00
  Speaker 13: I haven't spoken to you since the Bondai beach attack,
• 33:03
  Speaker 13: but I have been watching how that attack has been sort.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: Of utilized as that weaponized.
• 33:12
  Speaker 13: Weaponized in Australian politics.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Joining me are Scoonew's host James McPherson and communications consultant
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: CHRISI McSweeney has worked for Coalition prime ministers and premiers.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: James as the ABC looked for an Iranian expert to
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: give listeners her opinion or the ABC's opinion, even dare
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I say the Iranian regimes opinion.
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: That's a very good question.
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: Just goes to prove you can find anything in Toronto
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: if you've done even a cursory search of this woman's
• 33:49
  Speaker 14: social media. I mean, it's pretty clear she might be
• 33:53
  Speaker 14: a political expert. But she's certainly not an independent expert.
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: On her social media, you quickly find she refers to
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: Donald Trump as a monster, she refers to the Iranian
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: dispora as traitors, and she refers to Israel as quote
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: unquote bastards. So I found that within about ninety seconds
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: working out who is this woman? It was pretty obvious
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: pretty quickly she was not an unbiased, independent commentator. She
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: also says in the interview aired by the ABC This
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: Morning that she thinks at best, only about twenty five
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: percent maybe at its peak, of Iranian support the regimes.
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: So you know, you could flip it the other way. Really,
• 34:35
  Speaker 14: what she's saying is seventy five percent of people in
• 34:38
  Speaker 14: Iran don't like the regime and are quite okay about
• 34:43
  Speaker 14: America attacking to remove the regime. She was clearly biased,
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: and I think that would have been clearly known to
• 34:48
  Speaker 14: the ABC producers when they invited her on the program.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: About at Christy. Of course, you're shocked, shocked to see
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: that happen.
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: Oh look, I'm not shocked.
• 35:02
  Speaker 15: I'm going to be a bit different in terms of
• 35:04
  Speaker 15: James and give some people the benefit of the doubt
• 35:08
  Speaker 15: and land the blame a little bit at yes bias
• 35:13
  Speaker 15: and unobjective bias. But also there are so many young
• 35:18
  Speaker 15: journalists now who really view these activists as people that
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: are legitimate opinion makers, and they don't research. And as
• 35:29
  Speaker 15: you say, a cursory scan of this person's social media
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: would have probably brought up a lot of red flags
• 35:38
  Speaker 15: for any legitimate journalists doing any type of research. Now
• 35:43
  Speaker 15: we see this across a number of media bureaus. Do better, journalists,
• 35:49
  Speaker 15: do better young journalists and young researchers and don't lean
• 35:53
  Speaker 15: in to the activism, because this is clearly what this
• 35:57
  Speaker 15: woman is, very very clearly. I'd like to think it's
• 36:00
  Speaker 15: not deliberate, but you know.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: See Christy, this is why we bring you on for
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that charming, charming willingness to see the best in people.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: And I only point.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Out that they have to go as far aways Toronto
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: to find.
• 36:18
  Speaker 15: I know, and I tend to be on your side,
• 36:21
  Speaker 15: Andrew James, I just I do.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I know you're trying to be I appreciate, no, I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: like having in an argument.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Fine, this is great a difference of opinion kindness on
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the show. Who would have thought, James, when when my
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: parents emigrated here, you know, the policy back then. This
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: is Robert Menzie's time, it was assimilation. Right, You've got
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to be great to have people come here, people from
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: many tribes becoming one Australian people. My family managed that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Homer Fastmas a Tony birthday. He's now in charge of immigration.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Here's the he's against the similation.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Here is the concept of immigration is people when they
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: come to Australia want to be part of Australia. That's
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: what people want. And I've never accepted the word assimilation.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I don't want people to lose who they are. The
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: word integration is one that's being used as part of
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: a multiculture or dialogue for a very long time, and
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: that's what it is. We want people for who they are.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I've never subscribed to that sort of melting pot concept
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: that your whole identity is meant to be.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Dissolved James Heaven forfend that people should become Australians. We
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: want them just to be unassimilated globules in this stewing pot.
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: If Tony Burke was just some random pedestrian off the street,
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: this wouldn't matter. I mean, I disagree, but who cares.
• 37:55
  Speaker 14: But this is the home Affairs Minister and the Immigration
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: Minister saying, hey, listen, if you come to this country,
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: don't worry about assimilating. In fact, we don't want you
• 38:04
  Speaker 14: to assimilate. I mean, what kind of message is that?
• 38:08
  Speaker 14: And if you take it to its logical conclusion, you
• 38:11
  Speaker 14: don't end up with a country. You end up with
• 38:13
  Speaker 14: a continent that serves basically as a sharehouse for dozens
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: and dozens of different cultures. He's trying to be too
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: clever by half. He says he doesn't believe in assimilation,
• 38:23
  Speaker 14: he believes in integration. Well, if you don't assimilate into
• 38:27
  Speaker 14: Australian culture, what do you integrate into a medical system,
• 38:33
  Speaker 14: an economic system, an infrastructure. I mean, this is ridiculous.
• 38:38
  Speaker 14: If you come to Australia, you're coming here because obviously
• 38:43
  Speaker 14: you think it would be a great place to live,
• 38:44
  Speaker 14: and that hasn't happened. By accent. A culture has produced
• 38:49
  Speaker 14: the nation we call Australia that so many people want
• 38:51
  Speaker 14: to come to. So if we want it to continue
• 38:54
  Speaker 14: to be appealing, we need those who come here to
• 38:57
  Speaker 14: help build that culture, not to build parallel cultures that
• 39:02
  Speaker 14: are no relation or no bearing to what makes this
• 39:05
  Speaker 14: country so great in the first place.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Well, it's an extraordinary to me that nearly a million people,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: according to the latest census in Australia speak little or
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: a poor or no English. That already is a sign
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: of astrophe. But let me go to Christian Kindness corner
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: and Christy give us a kind of interpretation of what
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: we're seeing here.
• 39:28
  Speaker 15: I'm not going to be kind about this one. I'm
• 39:30
  Speaker 15: not kind about everything, Andrew.
• 39:31
  Speaker 12: As you know, this is.
• 39:33
  Speaker 15: Tony Burke trying to be extremely clever with language. This
• 39:39
  Speaker 15: is the government trying to rebrand the language of immigration
• 39:45
  Speaker 15: in contrast to frame them as more soft, more welcoming,
• 39:50
  Speaker 15: more multicultural than both Angus Taylor and both One Nation.
• 39:55
  Speaker 15: This is them saying we are not going to use
• 39:58
  Speaker 15: the word a similar. They are trying to bring the
• 40:01
  Speaker 15: connotations of that word to other parties and people who
• 40:06
  Speaker 15: like to use it because it's a fair enough word
• 40:09
  Speaker 15: to use. They are trying to change language and branding
• 40:14
  Speaker 15: and send signals to stakeholders, to communities, to voters and
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: to the media. And yes, it is too clever by half.
• 40:22
  Speaker 15: And people who watch these language tricks like we do,
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: we can see what he's doing.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you to the two Max James McPherson and
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Christy McSweeney, thank you very much to you both. After
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: the break, real estate adds in Britain say only Muslims
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: need a play. Britain's Prime Minise of Kirs Starmer has
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: been so weak, so ineffectual, so incompetent, and so dishonest,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and the Mandelson scandal in particular that it is now
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: tip to be on the brink of resigning or really
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: one of his owning businesses has suggested he go and
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Alja Faraja the reform pad is predicted when.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: So he'll hang on until May seventh.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: May seven is when Britain's local elections to Hill. Join
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: me as Patrick Christie's star presenter at gb News in London.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Lovely to see you again, mate, to tell me is
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Keir Starmer finished?
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And why.
• 41:28
  Speaker 16: Put a fourk in Emmy? Done Andrew and not before time?
• 41:31
  Speaker 16: The specific reason now, of course, is as you said there,
• 41:34
  Speaker 16: he was desperate to appoint Peter mandalson Oman, who remained
• 41:38
  Speaker 16: friends with the world's most notorious pedophile, to the role
• 41:41
  Speaker 16: of US ambassador, a man who had also failed security
• 41:44
  Speaker 16: vetting due we believe to links to things up Russia
• 41:47
  Speaker 16: and China, a national security risk and a deplorable person.
• 41:52
  Speaker 16: But it looks as though as well he was dishonest
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  Speaker 16: to everyone about that process, and that dishonesty is ultimately
• 41:58
  Speaker 16: what we'll do for kiss Armo and many port Trade himself,
• 42:01
  Speaker 16: like a lot of people on the left, as holier
• 42:02
  Speaker 16: than now, as whiter than why. Everything's been a lie
• 42:06
  Speaker 16: really with Keir Starmer. You know, we won't raise taxes.
• 42:09
  Speaker 16: They've raised more than fifty taxes. It's coming into power,
• 42:12
  Speaker 16: illegal immigrations up. There's no political instinct, there's no personality
• 42:16
  Speaker 16: so wooden that birds are nesting in him, you know,
• 42:19
  Speaker 16: And he tried to find an ambassadorial role but for
• 42:23
  Speaker 16: another man who turned out to be friends with another pedophile.
• 42:27
  Speaker 16: I mean, it's absolutely baggers believe this. But it's also
• 42:30
  Speaker 16: down to things like his previous work as a human
• 42:32
  Speaker 16: rights lawyer, you know, representing terrorist He says, of course
• 42:35
  Speaker 16: he was just doing his job, but he had a
• 42:38
  Speaker 16: role in helping to prosecute British truths. And it's this
• 42:40
  Speaker 16: thing that makes him seem like he's not really on
• 42:42
  Speaker 16: the side of Britain. Today is Saint George's Day, you know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 16: our patron saint. He's put a tweet out saying that
• 42:49
  Speaker 16: he rejects plastic patriotism. He's standing in front Andrew of
• 42:54
  Speaker 16: some cheap plastic Saint George's flags and it's this stuff, right.
• 43:00
  Speaker 16: We are a lion of a country led by a
• 43:02
  Speaker 16: pussy cat of a man.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And don't forget he tried to give away British territory,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: including a very important naval base in the middle of
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: the Indian Ocean, out of some sort of postcolonial shame
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: to a country that never owned in the first place. Mauritius,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I mean seriously now, but I just wonder Patrick if
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Britain is becoming ungovernable, because I've noticed, I've noticed I've
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: kept a clean keynaye on this. In seven years, you
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: have had five prime ministers. You'll have six if this
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: guy does go in the next couple of months. You've
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: had Theresa May, followed by Boris Johnson, followed by Liz Trust,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: followed by Richie Saunak, followed by Keis Tharma.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: What's gone wrong?
• 43:47
  Speaker 16: Well again, it's dishonesty, right. Look at Theresa May. The
• 43:50
  Speaker 16: public had just voted for Brexit. She was a remainer.
• 43:53
  Speaker 16: She didn't really want to do Braxit. Boris Johnson said
• 43:55
  Speaker 16: that you would bring down immigration, responsible for the highest
• 43:58
  Speaker 16: level of immigration that we've seen. That was dealt a
• 44:00
  Speaker 16: pretty poor hand, to be perfectly honest with you. But
• 44:03
  Speaker 16: you know, this is part of the thing that if
• 44:04
  Speaker 16: you do have mass immigration and the desecration of your
• 44:07
  Speaker 16: own culture, you end up with no coherent national identity.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: But there are.
• 44:12
  Speaker 16: Certain things I think that make governing Britain a bit easier.
• 44:16
  Speaker 16: Don't give away sovereign territory like you just said that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 16: Don't relentlessly say diversity is our greatest strength. It helps
• 44:23
  Speaker 16: if you know what a woman is. Don't stifle people
• 44:26
  Speaker 16: with taxes that for small businesses to go. You know,
• 44:29
  Speaker 16: we're a nation of shopkeepers famously, and now unfortunately shops
• 44:33
  Speaker 16: are having to shut because they can't afford their taxes.
• 44:35
  Speaker 16: So there are some basic things that would make it
• 44:38
  Speaker 16: easier to govern Britain. It just helps if you seem
• 44:41
  Speaker 16: like you are actually on the side of the people
• 44:44
  Speaker 16: of this country, if you actually like the country that
• 44:46
  Speaker 16: you're in charge of, that would be a good start.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Ah Well, you seem to be clearing the way there
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: for Niger. Farag that seems to be his pitch for
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: suret and this would help too. An investigation I read
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: in the Daily Telegraph. It's fair your Daily Telegraph. It's
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: found the rash of advertisements of properties to rent like
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: this one two bid space available Muslims only and a
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: single room is available for a Muslim girl or boy
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: and a double room only for Muslims.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: What is going on?
• 45:27
  Speaker 16: We've got we've got a housing crisis now, so I mean,
• 45:30
  Speaker 16: maybe we're going to see more people conferring to Islam
• 45:32
  Speaker 16: because that's the only way to get a little room somewhere.
• 45:34
  Speaker 12: But it does hart back.
• 45:37
  Speaker 16: It just hearts back to the old days, the bad
• 45:39
  Speaker 16: old days of signs of a boarding house. You know,
• 45:42
  Speaker 16: no blacks, no Irish, no dogs. And what's worrying for
• 45:46
  Speaker 16: me here is how often does this happen where they're
• 45:48
  Speaker 16: less brazen about it. We know about this because they
• 45:51
  Speaker 16: decided to plaster it on adverts. But we do have
• 45:53
  Speaker 16: a house in christ we do have a rental crisis.
• 45:55
  Speaker 16: We also talk a lot about unconscious bias, don't we
• 45:59
  Speaker 16: So much so that in entire workforces that have to
• 46:01
  Speaker 16: do training days about it. Check your privilege, watch out
• 46:05
  Speaker 16: for those microaggressions, they'll get you.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: But actually there.
• 46:08
  Speaker 16: Is a lot of racism now in Britain and it
• 46:11
  Speaker 16: is by no means coming from white people. There's you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 16: there's massive amounts of anti Semitism from importing people from
• 46:18
  Speaker 16: from other parts of the world. You know, we're seeing
• 46:20
  Speaker 16: what we're seeing now with these kind of blatant adverts
• 46:23
  Speaker 16: that are only for Muslims or actually some of them
• 46:25
  Speaker 16: as well are only for Hindus, and you just think,
• 46:29
  Speaker 16: you know, this is this is seriously bad for Britain.
• 46:32
  Speaker 16: And when people do say diversity is our greatest strength,
• 46:35
  Speaker 16: sometimes the people from the more diverse communities don't actually
• 46:40
  Speaker 16: want diversity themselves. They have, you know, a personal preference
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: for their own communities and that is something that we
• 46:46
  Speaker 16: are seeing here playing out before our very eyes. And
• 46:48
  Speaker 16: can you imagine what it would be if there was
• 46:50
  Speaker 16: a sign that just said only white people or only
• 46:54
  Speaker 16: Christians can have this particular flat. There would be mass outrage.
• 46:59
  Speaker 16: And this hasn't caused anywhere like that amount of outrageon
• 47:02
  Speaker 16: that we all know why.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so weird.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: You know, Britain's being told they must share their country
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: with people who won't share when they come, won't share
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: their homes.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Patrick Christie's thank you so much for your time, really
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Just sort of go back to, you know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the Home Affairs mister Tony Burke saying, Oh, no, we
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: don't want to We don't want assimilation. We don't want
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: assimilation when all around us we're seeing the problems that
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: come from underassimilated. In my opinion, people now today apropos
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: or maybe not, maybe I'm being unfair, but a propos
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: an Egyptian born counselor and the daughter of Palestinian immigrants.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: They are lead speakers at a rally at a Sydney
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: council building to pronounce to promote rather the war cry
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: globalize the into Farda, as if we hadn't seen enough
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: into Farda even here the re scheduled meetia will be
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: in a suburb where there are many Jews.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: How about that.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: I think this is so reckless and even vicious for
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the City of Sydney to allow this am one of
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: their buildings and have to say one more reason to
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: think we don't have enough assimilation at all. I've got
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: to say too that this is my last show for
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks i'll be off seeing the country
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: and visited and friends and family and all that. So
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: until then, goodnight Up. Next is Schari Markson, See you later.