Latest / Seahawks Press Pass / Jay Harbaugh: "It's Really Exciting"
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- 0:01Speaker 1: I want to know how much fun you are having
- 0:03Speaker 1: scheming from the new kickoff.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Les having a blast. We're really excited about it. It's
- 0:08Speaker 2: totally new for everybody and just cool to see what
- 0:12Speaker 2: different ideas people have and being able to take what
- 0:16Speaker 2: we know from the old world of kickoff and kick
- 0:18Speaker 2: return and and you know, see what's still true, what's
- 0:21Speaker 2: not true. And it's just a fun process as you go,
- 0:25Speaker 2: just trying different things and then realizing, hey, this this
- 0:28Speaker 2: might not be what we thought, and uh, you know,
- 0:30Speaker 2: it's organized trial and error.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Do you think it's gonna take before everybody kind of
- 0:35Speaker 3: figures out what truly.
- 0:37Speaker 4: Wants and doesn't want relanly, not just with you guys.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Mmmm, it's tough to say. I mean, honestly, it'll probably
- 0:47Speaker 2: be in the regular season. You know, people will play
- 0:52Speaker 2: your games and then everyone's going to be eagerly turning
- 0:54Speaker 2: on film of everybody else to see what are they doing,
- 0:57Speaker 2: what's you know, what what different ideas if.
- 1:00Speaker 5: People had what works, what doesn't work?
- 1:01Speaker 2: And so I think you'll see probably for five, six, seven,
- 1:05Speaker 2: eight weeks, pretty rapid changes and anyone that has an
- 1:09Speaker 2: advantage early will probably we'll probably be able to keep
- 1:14Speaker 2: that advantage for a little while until people people catch
- 1:16Speaker 2: up where if you go.
- 1:17Speaker 3: On or why you talk to the joints, gather.
- 1:19Speaker 2: And take it because we have great people in this
- 1:23Speaker 2: building and there's other people that we've spoke to, but
- 1:25Speaker 2: rather keep that, keep that to ourselves for now. But no,
- 1:29Speaker 2: there's there's you know, it's it's it's a new setup,
- 1:32Speaker 2: there's new parameters, the spacing is different, but it's still football.
- 1:35Speaker 2: And you know, there's a lot of things you can
- 1:39Speaker 2: talk about with the play about what's different. And one
- 1:42Speaker 2: of the things that we've talked about in this building is,
- 1:45Speaker 2: you know, instead of focusing on what's different, let's focus
- 1:47Speaker 2: on what stayed the same. And you know, the block destruction,
- 1:51Speaker 2: the awareness of how far am I from the ball?
- 1:53Speaker 2: What decision should I make as a coverage guy, The
- 1:56Speaker 2: same fundamentals in the return game of great feet, great
- 1:59Speaker 2: hand placement, great eyes, leverage, all those things are still true.
- 2:02Speaker 2: So you know, it's easy to get carried away and
- 2:05Speaker 2: what's different, but you can we think that you'll be
- 2:08Speaker 2: able to make a lot of hey, just understanding and
- 2:11Speaker 2: banking on the things that have stayed the same, like how.
- 2:15Speaker 4: The kickoff team is going to handle it, or the
- 2:17Speaker 4: return team.
- 2:19Speaker 2: I would say there's probably more unknown about the return teams,
- 2:25Speaker 2: just because there's a little bit of a question of
- 2:27Speaker 2: exactly who's going to be able to get to who.
- 2:29Speaker 2: From a blocking perspective, with the horizontal constraints that you have,
- 2:32Speaker 2: how far will one individual player be able to get
- 2:34Speaker 2: to and execute a block? I think kickoff wise, people
- 2:39Speaker 2: have a decent sense of what that is going to
- 2:41Speaker 2: look like.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Would that be a lot of like squid type kicks?
- 2:44Speaker 3: Would you expect to see someone.
- 2:46Speaker 5: I think so.
- 2:46Speaker 2: I think that's the The general consensus is you're really
- 2:50Speaker 2: not You're not rewarded for hang time anymore. So any
- 2:53Speaker 2: ball that can hit you know, it's kind of creates
- 2:55Speaker 2: artificial hang time if it can hit the ground and
- 2:57Speaker 2: the action is going to start. So I think that
- 3:00Speaker 2: the rules are incentivizing that toward type of behavior. So
- 3:05Speaker 2: I would imagine that that's what you'll get as a.
- 3:07Speaker 5: Special teams coordinator.
- 3:09Speaker 3: Overall, you do like the changes, and then it makes
- 3:11Speaker 3: the kickoff more relevant again, and in Elite where for
- 3:14Speaker 3: the last few years it's been kind of a non play.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited about it. I think it's really cool. Uh,
- 3:19Speaker 2: we were pumped about it. It's a you know anything
- 3:22Speaker 2: that's more football and and uh, we're going to be
- 3:25Speaker 2: for it. And there's so many great people, coaches and
- 3:28Speaker 2: players that have made a great living on fourth down
- 3:31Speaker 2: and in the special teams phase. So for that segment
- 3:34Speaker 2: of the game and the people that love that part
- 3:36Speaker 2: of the game, it's uh, it's exciting. There's more opportunity to, uh,
- 3:39Speaker 2: to show what you can do to separate yourself and
- 3:41Speaker 2: to make an impact on the on the the outcome
- 3:44Speaker 2: of the of the contest.
- 3:45Speaker 3: So you'll change the skill set of the players that
- 3:48Speaker 3: you wanted to hold on each side at all.
- 3:52Speaker 2: We've thought about that a lot. I mean, there's good
- 3:54Speaker 2: conversation about it. I would say that.
- 3:58Speaker 5: If if you.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Had to, if you had to maybe make a generalization
- 4:02Speaker 2: of what trend will you see? Yeah, the you've taken
- 4:06Speaker 2: away the bulk of the running of the play, right,
- 4:09Speaker 2: So maybe the player that now becomes more available that
- 4:13Speaker 2: wasn't would be the guy that just didn't quite have
- 4:16Speaker 2: the ideal top end speed before but has the arm
- 4:19Speaker 2: length and the physicality and the decision making as a
- 4:22Speaker 2: defensive player. I think that guy could become more relevant now,
- 4:26Speaker 2: you know, maybe you see more tight ends, more pass rushers,
- 4:30Speaker 2: bigger bodies. I think you will see some more d
- 4:33Speaker 2: linemen on the field in that sense. It's a great
- 4:35Speaker 2: thing because you now have more flexibility within the roster
- 4:38Speaker 2: for guys to be able to get involved. And then
- 4:40Speaker 2: the other aspect, even though it's not necessarily the body type,
- 4:42Speaker 2: but you might just end up seeing more players that
- 4:46Speaker 2: are starters.
- 4:47Speaker 5: Or fringe starters.
- 4:48Speaker 2: That you know, maybe didn't you know you didn't want
- 4:50Speaker 2: to have him out there on the field before and
- 4:52Speaker 2: having rep after rep of getting to you know, twenty
- 4:54Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two miles an hour. Well, now it's
- 4:57Speaker 2: a little bit different play and it's not probably quite
- 4:59Speaker 2: a taxing so I think you you just could see
- 5:01Speaker 2: a little bit of shift of who's available for the play, uh,
- 5:05Speaker 2: in that sense as well.
- 5:06Speaker 4: From what you understand the roles. Now, how very do
- 5:08Speaker 4: you think the approaches can be the teams will try
- 5:11Speaker 4: out in the scene in these areas and how wild
- 5:14Speaker 4: wildly different from team the team could the way teams
- 5:16Speaker 4: approach it there?
- 5:18Speaker 5: And are you are you speaking about the coverage sense
- 5:21Speaker 5: or the.
- 5:23Speaker 4: Kickoffs?
- 5:24Speaker 5: And the question is how how much variation can there
- 5:27Speaker 5: be they.
- 5:27Speaker 4: Can be within the rules that you're freeing into.
- 5:31Speaker 5: That's a good question, I think.
- 5:32Speaker 2: I think you'll see some people that will push the
- 5:34Speaker 2: envelope and get a little crazier than others and see
- 5:38Speaker 2: what you can do. I think there'll be other people
- 5:39Speaker 2: that start more vanilla and test the waters. As with
- 5:42Speaker 2: most things, I think that you'll see uh kind of
- 5:46Speaker 2: things even out with something that's you know, in time
- 5:50Speaker 2: when we all become more familiar with it, where it's
- 5:53Speaker 2: generally somewhat predictable just of what you're going to see,
- 5:57Speaker 2: similar as offense and defenses not you know, after years
- 6:00Speaker 2: of you guys watching football, there's not that many times
- 6:03Speaker 2: where you see something and you're like, man, what what
- 6:05Speaker 2: in the world is that? You know, every year, every
- 6:07Speaker 2: now and then you see a trend. There'll be a
- 6:09Speaker 2: pointed time where this play will become like that. I'm
- 6:12Speaker 2: not sure exactly when that will be, but I think
- 6:15Speaker 2: it's a matter of time.
- 6:16Speaker 5: So I said, it.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Puts more pressure on the kicker in a potential tackling role,
- 6:20Speaker 1: and some have even said talked about replacing their kicker
- 6:23Speaker 1: with a you know, a different guy on the field
- 6:25Speaker 1: that's more apt to be able.
- 6:27Speaker 3: To tackle lot of play.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Is that something that you think you might see throout
- 6:29Speaker 1: the league and something you guys are considering it all.
- 6:31Speaker 5: Yes, certainly considering it.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers would suggest that the kickers will make
- 6:35Speaker 2: more tackles just because there's gonna be more returns. And
- 6:39Speaker 2: and you know, there's there's some numbers that would say
- 6:43Speaker 2: that with this style of play that they're they're more
- 6:46Speaker 2: app to be involved in a tackle. As as for
- 6:50Speaker 2: the you know, an alternative position player subbing in for them,
- 6:54Speaker 2: you could see it. It's a little If a guy
- 6:56Speaker 2: can do it, then it's gonna it's gonna have a
- 6:58Speaker 2: chance to be really good. But you know, you you
- 7:01Speaker 2: got to be pretty good to be able to you know,
- 7:03Speaker 2: kick off a bunch of times and keep the ball
- 7:05Speaker 2: in the landing zone every time, because it's a it's
- 7:07Speaker 2: a fairly steep price if you miss it, and uh,
- 7:11Speaker 2: you know, it'll be interesting to see. I think some guys,
- 7:14Speaker 2: you'll you'll see some people do it, and then I
- 7:16Speaker 2: think eventually those guys will mishit the ball because it's
- 7:19Speaker 2: not it's not quite as easy as it looks to do.
- 7:22Speaker 5: And especially if.
- 7:22Speaker 2: You're trying to get really really creative and you know,
- 7:25Speaker 2: barely get into the landings one that kind of thing.
- 7:27Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very small margin of era, right,
- 7:29Speaker 2: So there's a those are certainly a risk award with
- 7:32Speaker 2: with anything that you do, how much if.
- 7:34Speaker 4: You've got the UFL as a resource to tick out
- 7:38Speaker 4: or strategy.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Yeah, we looked at it quite a bit, the XFL
- 7:42Speaker 2: stuff from from last year, and uh, you know, just
- 7:45Speaker 2: because it's the closest thing that we have to to
- 7:48Speaker 2: compare to. And you know, when you when you when
- 7:52Speaker 2: you do look at it, the spacing of the play
- 7:55Speaker 2: is different, which you guys know, it's it's we're five
- 7:58Speaker 2: yards further back, and then the restraints of where the
- 8:01Speaker 2: return team kind align are different. And the funny thing is,
- 8:04Speaker 2: because it's such a small space, even just the five yards,
- 8:10Speaker 2: it's pretty it's it's pretty tough to compare. Like there's
- 8:13Speaker 2: certain things where you're like, Okay, I could see this
- 8:16Speaker 2: work and I couldn't see this working. But every every
- 8:19Speaker 2: clip you watch you end up saying, Okay, well if
- 8:21Speaker 2: I added five yards here, would this be the same.
- 8:23Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 8:24Speaker 2: And so there's an element that's a little bit unknown there,
- 8:27Speaker 2: and I guess what I'm saying is that, you know,
- 8:29Speaker 2: it seems like it's the exact same it's it's pretty different,
- 8:33Speaker 2: but still valuable to look.
- 8:34Speaker 3: At the returners themselves and kind of the value of
- 8:39Speaker 3: having multiple guys who are gonna be able to do
- 8:40Speaker 3: that that that's obviously it's kind of bigger deal, right
- 8:43Speaker 3: having several guys who can really take it, take it
- 8:45Speaker 3: to the house or whatever every time.
- 8:48Speaker 5: Every time would be nice. I would love that.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's there's gonna be more plays, right, So
- 8:58Speaker 2: so you know, the just the reps and the wear
- 9:01Speaker 2: and tear of it. Yeah, you're gonna want to have
- 9:02Speaker 2: more guys available to you that can do it.
- 9:06Speaker 5: So yeah, I guess you'd probably need a little bit
- 9:08Speaker 5: more depth in the past.
- 9:09Speaker 2: But I think if you're just talking about that position, yeah,
- 9:13Speaker 2: you're gonna need You're gonna need a couple guys that can,
- 9:17Speaker 2: you know, are viable with the ball in their hand,
- 9:19Speaker 2: just because it's gonna be I think with the style
- 9:22Speaker 2: of kicks that you're going to see, it could be
- 9:24Speaker 2: fairly difficult for one guy to be able to get to,
- 9:28Speaker 2: you know, all the kicks in terms of where the
- 9:30Speaker 2: kicker is going to be putting the ball and the
- 9:32Speaker 2: incentives we talked about earlier for the for the kickoff
- 9:35Speaker 2: team to get the ball on the ground. So I
- 9:37Speaker 2: think I think maybe you'll see more teams having two
- 9:41Speaker 2: guys that are like deemed quality kick returner back there.
- 9:46Speaker 2: I think that will be maybe a trend that is
- 9:49Speaker 2: a little different than the last couple of years where
- 9:52Speaker 2: one guys are strictly a blocker's.
- 9:55Speaker 4: It's safe to say you're gonna have more multiple combination
- 9:57Speaker 4: of blocking schemes for a kicker turn that they've never had.
- 10:02Speaker 5: I'm not sure that's a good question.
- 10:04Speaker 2: I would I would say, if you had to, if
- 10:06Speaker 2: I was forced answer, I would say no, just because
- 10:10Speaker 2: we've never had I've never dealt with constraints like this personally,
- 10:14Speaker 2: and then no one in the league has. The where
- 10:16Speaker 2: you can align is pretty uh, you know, there's there's
- 10:19Speaker 2: just major restrictions to it. And so what that does
- 10:23Speaker 2: to you is it just with with hey, I'm only
- 10:27Speaker 2: allowed to align in this area if I'm a you know,
- 10:30Speaker 2: the on the in the setup zone on the thirty
- 10:33Speaker 2: five I'm a left tackle as we would call it,
- 10:35Speaker 2: and I have to be outside the.
- 10:36Speaker 5: Numbers on the thirty five.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Well, there's only so many guys I'm going to be
- 10:40Speaker 2: able to get to in that split second once that
- 10:42Speaker 2: play starts. And so I think some of that at
- 10:45Speaker 2: different positions is going to restrict how creative you can be.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Obviously you could still be creative, but there's just in
- 10:53Speaker 2: the in the old world, you would have, you know,
- 10:56Speaker 2: thirty yards to be able to run and move and
- 11:00Speaker 2: be able to get to different people. Well, now I
- 11:03Speaker 2: mean the ball is kicked, I'm waiting, we start, and
- 11:06Speaker 2: I turn and run and then it's like, I mean,
- 11:09Speaker 2: it's like a second later and the guy that I'm
- 11:11Speaker 2: supposed to be blocking is breathing down my neck, you
- 11:14Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I think that part of
- 11:16Speaker 2: it will will limit, you know, some of the things
- 11:21Speaker 2: that people will try.
- 11:23Speaker 5: What kind of vouching did you do for A. J.
- 11:24Speaker 4: Barner before the drip?
- 11:27Speaker 2: Uh just answered questions about him when they when they
- 11:29Speaker 2: ask of what kind of guy he is and the
- 11:32Speaker 2: worker and the day in and day out mentality that
- 11:36Speaker 2: he had. And he's a guy that just from what
- 11:39Speaker 2: I've observed around here and what Mike's vision is for
- 11:42Speaker 2: the program, and and uh, John, it's he's a guy
- 11:45Speaker 2: that is definitely in line with those things.
- 11:47Speaker 5: That first preseason game will be who's that one against?
- 11:52Speaker 5: Uh No, that's gonna be cool.
- 11:53Speaker 2: That's a funny funny that that worked out that way,
- 11:55Speaker 2: and and uh what a neat way to start the season.
- 11:58Speaker 5: Be uh be super excited for that one.
- 12:00Speaker 3: More of the kickstuff, is it going to be more
- 12:02Speaker 3: important to kind of do this in the preseason? I mean,
- 12:04Speaker 3: typically maybe starting guys aren't on specialty a whole lot
- 12:07Speaker 3: of the preseason. You don't want to get hurt or whatever.
- 12:09Speaker 3: But is it going to be more imperative to try
- 12:11Speaker 3: to get realtside of a lot of those guys that must.
- 12:13Speaker 4: Have to test that off?
- 12:14Speaker 5: Yeah, I could definitely see that.
- 12:16Speaker 2: I'm not quite there yet just planning wise, but you
- 12:20Speaker 2: certainly would would would want to make sure that guys
- 12:23Speaker 2: have real competitive reps in a in a preseason setting
- 12:26Speaker 2: before they get to the regular season. And and the
- 12:29Speaker 2: other thing like that is relevant to all these questions
- 12:32Speaker 2: about the kickoff kick return is these players are so smart,
- 12:36Speaker 2: and they're so experienced, and they have such great body awareness,
- 12:39Speaker 2: and especially some of the older guys that have been
- 12:42Speaker 2: around special teams a lot. They're tremendous resources for us.
- 12:45Speaker 2: So as we as we experiment, try things, implement techniques
- 12:49Speaker 2: and plays, and we run them, they're really really great
- 12:53Speaker 2: for us as sounding boards. Hey, what do you think
- 12:55Speaker 2: about this? Do you think this is possible? Some of
- 12:58Speaker 2: the feedback that they've given us is great. That will
- 13:00Speaker 2: only increase as we as we get further down the road.
- 13:04Speaker 1: On the idea of possibly using like a non kicker
- 13:06Speaker 1: and a kickoff situation that you have you tried that
- 13:09Speaker 1: out yet, like.
- 13:09Speaker 2: To see who could potentially do it, We've we've talked
- 13:12Speaker 2: to some guys. Uh, I don't know that we necessarily
- 13:15Speaker 2: have a an obvious candidate there, and we have a
- 13:19Speaker 2: couple of pretty talented guys in the specialist room to
- 13:22Speaker 2: begin with, so.
- 13:23Speaker 5: We'll see again.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Like I said, I think that that doing that is exciting,
- 13:27Speaker 2: but it's it's to be able to do it over
- 13:29Speaker 2: and over and over and and you know, not miss
- 13:31Speaker 2: the landing zone is not quite as easy as people
- 13:37Speaker 2: would think. So I think that that's a it's a
- 13:40Speaker 2: great idea and if you have a guy that can
- 13:42Speaker 2: do it, it makes a lot of sense. But there's
- 13:43Speaker 2: also then the downside of you know that player now
- 13:47Speaker 2: has a very unnatural movement that puts a ton of
- 13:49Speaker 2: strain on your body and adding that to his workload
- 13:51Speaker 2: on top of being you know, running back or defensive
- 13:54Speaker 2: back or whatever it might be. So you know that
- 13:56Speaker 2: player has to handle that workload too. So it's interesting.
- 14:00Speaker 2: It's all fun conversations, and you know, there's a lot
- 14:03Speaker 2: of smart people in this league and really talented players,
- 14:05Speaker 2: and it'll be fun to see how it shakes out.
- 14:08Speaker 4: As we've talked to the offensive defensive coaches, they've told
- 14:11Speaker 4: us they're incrementally installing or they're twenty Where are you
- 14:16Speaker 4: with your special teams maybe the kickoff punty side, Where
- 14:18Speaker 4: are you installing your.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Special teams team as well?
- 14:21Speaker 2: In terms of a percentage or halfway there?
- 14:25Speaker 4: Are you going?
- 14:25Speaker 5: A long way? You go?
- 14:26Speaker 2: You most of I haven't thought about it necessarily on
- 14:29Speaker 2: a percentage basis, I would say that we're we've essentially
- 14:35Speaker 2: installed just about everything technique wise, and in the spect
- 14:37Speaker 2: teams world, that's a little bit probably more. The typical
- 14:44Speaker 2: mode you're in in the off season is working fundamentals, techniques,
- 14:47Speaker 2: things that can be applied on different phases or you
- 14:51Speaker 2: know something that applies for punt and punt return or
- 14:54Speaker 2: kickoff and punt, and so we've majored in that type
- 14:58Speaker 2: of thing. And it goes back to the kickoff conversation, like, yeah,
- 15:01Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that are different with this play,
- 15:03Speaker 2: but there's also, you know, a huge chunk probably more
- 15:07Speaker 2: things that are actually the same than are different, in
- 15:10Speaker 2: terms of finding the ball, leverage on the ball, my
- 15:13Speaker 2: hands as a as a defender, getting hands on blockers,
- 15:16Speaker 2: knowing when I can win with speed, when I need
- 15:18Speaker 2: to go through the blocker and not around it. So
- 15:21Speaker 2: we're trying to make sure that we live in that
- 15:24Speaker 2: world as much as we can this time of year,
- 15:26Speaker 2: build a really solid foundation for for the schemes that
- 15:30Speaker 2: that will be implemented later in the in the fall.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Anything else, Thank you everything, Thanks, I appreciate you.