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Scott Pelley, Truth & The Conversations We Need To Have · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: They don't want to know what's actually going on. They're
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  Speaker 1: getting flooded with information that is false. We are in
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  Speaker 1: a post true society and this is terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I care about it.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome too Personal. I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so
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  Speaker 1: Follow It's that sup Personal show and thanks for hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with us today.
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  Speaker 2: I have been traveling for the past couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I was in Rome, I was in Florence, I was
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  Speaker 1: in Venice, I was in New York. I was in
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  Speaker 1: Dominican Republic. That hasn't hit socials yet. We are behind
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  Speaker 1: on our content, but it was an amazing trip.
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  Speaker 2: I love to travel.
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  Speaker 1: It is my other passion other than sports and talking shit,
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  Speaker 1: and I just love seeing the world. It always changes
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  Speaker 1: my perspective, it always teaches me something new, and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just a curious person.
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  Speaker 1: So it was an amazing trip and I learned a
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  Speaker 1: lot and had a great time.
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  Speaker 2: Had a wedding in Rome. Rome is one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite cities in the world as bad Rap. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually really incredible, and it was my first time
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  Speaker 1: in Florence and Venice, which I absolutely loved. It was
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  Speaker 1: also my first time in Dominican Republic. So I think
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  Speaker 1: I'm at twenty eight countries now, might be twenty nine.
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  Speaker 1: But it was great to check another country off of
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  Speaker 1: the list and it was a beautiful place. But a
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  Speaker 1: lot has happens over the past week and we have.
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  Speaker 2: To get into it. So, Haley, what are we talking
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  Speaker 2: about first?
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  Speaker 3: Today's got quite a few things to talk about. But
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  Speaker 3: what I really want to get into first is this
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  Speaker 3: sixty minute got Pelly story. You know I live on
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  Speaker 3: different side of the internet you do.
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  Speaker 2: I also am going to need you talking to the
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  Speaker 2: mike because I think you're too far away.
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  Speaker 4: Can you hear me?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Scott Pelley is So you guys don't know you all SPACs?
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  Speaker 1: You know about this? Yes, Hailey did not know about this,
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  Speaker 1: And I think think a lot of people do not
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the gravity of this situation. So veterans CBS journalist
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  Speaker 1: Scott Pelley was fired from sixty Minutes.
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  Speaker 2: After nearly forty years.
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  Speaker 1: At CBS, and his fire came amid a major of
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  Speaker 1: upheoval at CBS News following leadership changes under the paramounts guidance, merger,
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  Speaker 1: conglomerates situation. So a lot is happening in media. Paramounts
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  Speaker 1: guidance is one of them. There's a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: conglomerates that are coming together ownerships. They're sweep taking sweeping
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  Speaker 1: changes of the news business. I am a train journalist.
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  Speaker 1: I went to university for broadcast journalism. I study journalism.
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  Speaker 1: I always say I'm not an acting journalist, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a practicing journalist, because journalism, to me is the bedrock
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  Speaker 1: of society, of a functioning society, Having a space where
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  Speaker 1: you can go to the adult in the room who
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  Speaker 1: is has through years of integrity and consistency, shown that
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  Speaker 1: they can be a trusted source of news and unbiased,
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  Speaker 1: unbought information is so important. It is the cornerstone of democracy.
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  Speaker 1: To be able to criticize your government, to be able
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  Speaker 1: to get real information to the people, and to allow
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  Speaker 1: the public to do with that information, that real information,
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  Speaker 1: what they see, what they see as correct and see
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  Speaker 1: as fair to them. Sixty minutes is not a program
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  Speaker 1: that I am watching every single time it's on. But
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  Speaker 1: if there's something that I want to know about and
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm going to get a real interview about it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get a research journalist who has integrity,
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  Speaker 1: who's going to ask the real questions. This person's not
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  Speaker 1: going to go on there with an agenda and be
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  Speaker 1: able to outsmart the interviewer. They're going to get pushedback,
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  Speaker 1: They're going to have to defend their position. That is
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  Speaker 1: a place that I would go. The fact that he
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  Speaker 1: was fired, the fact that he is no longer there
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  Speaker 1: as somebody who has been and worked in the news
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  Speaker 1: for as long as he has, and been a respected
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  Speaker 1: voice in the news for forty years, is extremely scary
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  Speaker 1: to me. When I was in college studying broadcasting, I
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  Speaker 1: had this incredible professor and she was always pushing me.
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  Speaker 1: Connie Hicks. She was a legendary Miami investigative reporter. She
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  Speaker 1: had put her life on the line multiple times to
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  Speaker 1: uncover local stories in Miami, to bring real news to
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  Speaker 1: the people.
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  Speaker 2: She wanted me to be an investigative journalist.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, you have the guts for this, Like
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  Speaker 1: you could do this, you could really change the world
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  Speaker 1: with your investigative journalism. I know you have it in you,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like that, I want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: sports and entertainment, Like I'm not really that serious of
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  Speaker 1: a person. I think it's a lot of responsibility that
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  Speaker 1: comes with being a journalist. It's like being a teacher,
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  Speaker 1: or being a lawyer, or being a judge or being
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  Speaker 1: a doctor. Like an there's an oath that you take
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  Speaker 1: to the people that you work with when you're in
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  Speaker 1: one of those positions, and journalism.
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  Speaker 2: Is like that. So when someone calls them themselves a.
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  Speaker 1: Journalist and they're not a journalist, it pisses me off
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  Speaker 1: because it's not that you have to be a trained
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  Speaker 1: journalist in order to be a journalist, but you do
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  Speaker 1: have to practice integrity at a very high level in
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  Speaker 1: order to be a journalists, just in order to call
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  Speaker 1: yourself that. So I don't call myself that, even though
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  Speaker 1: I do act in journalistic spaces and I am trained
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  Speaker 1: as an actual journalist. One of the things that pushed
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  Speaker 1: me off being a journalist at that level in that way,
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  Speaker 1: as an investigative journalist or working in heavy serious news
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  Speaker 1: was we were talking about a story where there was
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  Speaker 1: an investigation about all the kids that were disappearing at Disneyland.
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  Speaker 1: Now you would think Disneyland's a safe place for kids.
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  Speaker 1: Why have I never heard of this? And I asked
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  Speaker 1: her about it and she was like, well, the Disney
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  Speaker 1: is owned by ABC and the reporter that did this
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  Speaker 1: investigation works for ABC. And I was like, so I
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  Speaker 1: can do that, Like what do you mean that's how's
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  Speaker 1: that work? Like, I'm the public. I want to know
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  Speaker 1: if my kid is safe at Disney Why is that fair?
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  Speaker 1: And she was like yeah, like these companies are owned
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  Speaker 1: these news companies are owned by corporations.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, so I'm going to do all
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  Speaker 2: this work.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just going to go away because it might
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  Speaker 1: hurt the bottom line, even if it's something that the
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  Speaker 1: public should know. That's not a space I want to
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  Speaker 1: participate in. And that's the space that Scott Pelly has
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  Speaker 1: been fighting in for forty years to push through that
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  Speaker 1: level of bureaucracy and bullshit to bring the public the
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  Speaker 1: real news and information. So when we know no longer
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  Speaker 1: have adults like that in the room, and we no
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  Speaker 1: longer have programs being produced by adults in the room,
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  Speaker 1: and those programs are lasting on their pristine reputation to.
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  Speaker 2: Then be manipulated by the government. We are fucked.
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  Speaker 1: That is how Russia operates, That's how North Korea operates,
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  Speaker 1: That's how China operates, that's how Cuba operates.
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  Speaker 2: Those are all supposed to be spaces.
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  Speaker 1: Weed on align with, and yet here we are allowing
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  Speaker 1: our institutions, allowing our governments, and allowing these corporations to
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  Speaker 1: pollute every line of real information in news that possibly exists.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone just wants to be shoveled shit into their mouth
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  Speaker 1: every fucking day. They don't want to know what's actually
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  Speaker 1: going on. They're getting flooded with information that is false.
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  Speaker 1: We are in a post true society, and this is
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  Speaker 1: fucking terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I care about it.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot, that's a lot. No, No, in all seriousness.
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  Speaker 3: When I was listening and watching the interview, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you forget because so many people have a camera and
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  Speaker 3: a microphone that there are people actually doing real journalists work,
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  Speaker 3: reporting in real places where there's war happening. They're amongst fires, hurricanes,
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  Speaker 3: Like you don't see it. All you see is clips
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  Speaker 3: of the new reporter who is not a reporter and
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  Speaker 3: not have any training.
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  Speaker 1: No, and that's what journalism is. My best friend Janie
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  Speaker 1: does is an anchor at Channel ten in Miami. She
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  Speaker 1: has been to the Vatican to cover the Pope. She
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  Speaker 1: has been to protests. She has done reporter work for
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  Speaker 1: years before she was ever in Miami. She has been
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  Speaker 1: sent to the center of hurricanes multiple times.
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  Speaker 2: One time she was stuck in the Bahamas. Didn't even
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  Speaker 2: know if she was alive.
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  Speaker 1: Like people have to go to those places, people have
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  Speaker 1: to go to war to cover war.
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  Speaker 2: They are not soldiers, as.
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  Speaker 1: He said in the interview, but they are putting their
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  Speaker 1: lives on the line to bring us the news back
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  Speaker 1: home of what is actually happening. And we are putting
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  Speaker 1: and daring to put people who are not only unqualified,
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  Speaker 1: but are completely bought and paid for with no journalistic
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  Speaker 1: integrity at all, in spaces to give us that information.
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  Speaker 1: That should terrify all of us, because you have to
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  Speaker 1: have a place where you're actually knowing what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: We are so distracted with everything, and I get it,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to escape sometimes, you've got to talk about
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  Speaker 1: some bullshit. You've got to watch a cheap show. I'm
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  Speaker 1: there with you, and I do the same thing. But
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  Speaker 1: it is important still that journalism exists. If you cannot
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  Speaker 1: criticize the government, if you cannot criticize the president, if
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  Speaker 1: you cannot tell real stories about things that are going
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  Speaker 1: to affect you and the health of your family and
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  Speaker 1: the safety of your family, we are fucked. Like we're
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  Speaker 1: just in a totalitarian, authoritarian, communist dictatorship. Any of those,
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  Speaker 1: any of those spaces you want to pick, that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're living in. Because if you can't criticize the government,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have a free news media, we are
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  Speaker 1: just being told what to think, and we will think
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  Speaker 1: it's because we will have no other way of getting
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  Speaker 1: the information specks.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's just a continuation of oh, like the
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  Speaker 5: Jimmy Fallon, No was it Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel
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  Speaker 5: Jimmy Kimmel situation, Like these higher entities have begun to
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  Speaker 5: just not play the game the right way because of honestly, Trump,
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  Speaker 5: like he's convinced people that like, you can do whatever
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  Speaker 5: you want to do. Like it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 5: believe that this man that's been working for sixty minutes
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  Speaker 5: for this long be fired for some background stuff that
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  Speaker 5: we don't necessarily know about, and then to get replaced
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  Speaker 5: who they replacing them with. I know money talks, but
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  Speaker 5: I feel like this is saying more than it's leading
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  Speaker 5: it to.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's of course about money, but it's more about control.
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  Speaker 1: It's more about putting voices in spaces where they can
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  Speaker 1: control the voice and tell the voice what to say.
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  Speaker 1: And he couldn't be bought. He was like, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to continue. I'm not going to let you tell
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  Speaker 1: lies on my name. Basically, like my reputation mattered, integrity matters,
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  Speaker 1: and like the American people matter more than me sitting
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  Speaker 1: here and continuing to be on this show. And the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he was willing to walk away from that, Like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: he was fired, but he also was fired because he
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  Speaker 1: stood up and said, I'm not going to just go
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  Speaker 1: I'm not on the ghett along gang. Like I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to challenge leadership and there's no editorial independence here and
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  Speaker 1: that's not okay with me. It's really really fucking scary.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Well, what else we got?
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  Speaker 4: I got a question for you.
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  Speaker 3: I know you were out, you know, vacationing over the
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  Speaker 3: weekend and last week, but did you see the sex tape.
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  Speaker 1: I watched some sex tapes, but I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: saw the sex tape.
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  Speaker 3: So a sex tape has been leaked featuring Diddy, Daphney
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  Speaker 3: joy In, an adult star named Sly Diggler. The internet
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  Speaker 3: obviously went crazy, lots of comments, lots of conversations pertaining
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  Speaker 3: to Diddy size.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, there's many things going on.
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  Speaker 4: Penis size, penis size yes, okay, on shell or not
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  Speaker 4: much of.
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  Speaker 3: Fifty obviously jumped in the conversation.
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  Speaker 4: As we know he will.
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  Speaker 3: He actually put out a statement that said she's not
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  Speaker 3: a victim thy years. Can you imagine going to eighth
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  Speaker 3: grade to find out this is your mom? The court
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  Speaker 3: system in La thinks fine. Daphne put out a statement
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  Speaker 3: that was later essentially know playing the victim role. She
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  Speaker 3: doesn't recognize the person in that video. Now, for the record,
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  Speaker 3: this sex tape was an attempt to blackmail her sometime before.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the sex tape came out because they it
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  Speaker 1: was just leaked.
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  Speaker 3: It was leaked once the media company got word that
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  Speaker 3: this was like revenge porn years ago. Yeah, they deaded it.
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  Speaker 3: It was never gonna come out. They want her to
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  Speaker 3: give a lump sum of money, the whole situation. She
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  Speaker 3: knew in the back of her mind this could come
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  Speaker 3: out one day. Well the day was last week, so
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  Speaker 3: it's out. He puts out this statement, she said, seeing
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  Speaker 3: myself so lost is excruciating. I just want to hold
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  Speaker 3: that girl in the room and get her out of
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  Speaker 3: there and tell her that that wasn't love and she
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  Speaker 3: didn't need to do this for love. My heart is
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  Speaker 3: breaking as I type this. Okay, here's here're my questions.
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  Speaker 4: I thought.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, not saying she's not a victim or saying she is.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly this statement is hers talking about being a victim, right,
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  Speaker 3: she was forced to be this way? Mind you, Diddy's
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  Speaker 3: watching in this video.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so Diddy's not participating. So Diddy's a cuck and
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  Speaker 1: it's yeah, okay, like a sex assistant.
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  Speaker 2: So he is participating, he's filming, he's filming. Okay, there's
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  Speaker 2: anythings going on.
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  Speaker 4: It's like forty minutes long.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, who the fuck has forty minutes?
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  Speaker 4: So here's why I'm confused.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, we know allegedly Diddy was given her about ten
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  Speaker 3: k a month right when they're together, amongst their couple
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  Speaker 3: of year long relationship goes to jail.
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  Speaker 2: That stops, right.
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  Speaker 3: That's when she kind of starts getting more sexy on
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  Speaker 3: regular social media like ig not.
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  Speaker 4: Just of.
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  Speaker 2: And she's on only fans she is okay, So she.
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  Speaker 3: Puts his statement out. Okay, so everyone's like supposed feel
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  Speaker 3: bad for her. Then she goes to Instagram stories, puts
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  Speaker 3: out a poll guys really matter, starts playing into it,
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  Speaker 3: turns up the content on Instagram, then has a Black
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  Speaker 3: Friday sale on of three ninety nine.
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  Speaker 4: See what's on there?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I got a trial.
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  Speaker 4: I won't lie to you.
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  Speaker 3: I have was curious nothing, but what's on Instagram?
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  Speaker 4: It's a scam.
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  Speaker 3: He does an interview with academics, so I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: maybe she wants to tell a story, you know, the whatever,
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  Speaker 3: not in court anymore.
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  Speaker 4: No, she just seduced him the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm trying to My question is, if this has
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  Speaker 3: happened to you in said situation that you were forced
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  Speaker 3: in during this relationship, why take to the internet make
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  Speaker 3: such a statement, but then do the same similar activities
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  Speaker 3: on the internet and charge people for them, But then
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  Speaker 3: say that you don't recognize this woman and you're trying
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  Speaker 3: to evolve and change, yeah, and be free and then
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  Speaker 3: go seduce academics in an interview, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot. I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: I would die if a sex tape came out.
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  Speaker 2: Die die.
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  Speaker 1: I would die like I would just it would. It
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  Speaker 1: would probably end me. I do not have the capacity. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just would not. I would be so fucking upset.
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  Speaker 1: I would not be making money off of that. So,
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  Speaker 1: but I also know unless someone recorded me without my consents, right,
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  Speaker 1: I know pretty much every piece of material that exists, and.
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  Speaker 2: I would know who it was with.
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  Speaker 1: There are certainly times in past relationships where I have
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  Speaker 1: done things because the person that I loved did not
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  Speaker 1: love me and want and coerce me into doing things
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  Speaker 1: that I would never do today, And that.
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  Speaker 2: I can relate to what she wrote.
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  Speaker 1: However, that is weird to then capitalize off of it,
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  Speaker 1: and from fifties perspective, he's saying that because they have
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  Speaker 1: a son together.
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  Speaker 4: They do and he's in eighth grade.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is horrifying the thought of my my
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  Speaker 1: son in eighth grade knowing that there is a sex
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  Speaker 1: tape that was released, but also she has a son
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  Speaker 1: and she's on OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 4: That's my thing.
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  Speaker 2: So that there's a there's a there's a lot going on,
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  Speaker 2: and if.
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  Speaker 4: You want to get your money, get your money.
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  Speaker 3: But as a mom myself, I was in the situation
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  Speaker 3: I had a o with I would not be publicly advertising.
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  Speaker 4: It'd be like it if you know you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I mean I think if she is
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  Speaker 1: here's what I will say. If she knew that this
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  Speaker 1: tape existed and that someone had it and was had
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  Speaker 1: the intention of eventually distributing it, then the conversations have
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  Speaker 1: to be had with everyone that could possibly be harmed
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  Speaker 1: from it. That would that would be my my takeaway
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  Speaker 1: from it, Like my.
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  Speaker 2: We have to have the conversation with my.
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  Speaker 1: Eighth grade son in in the way that it just
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  Speaker 1: has to happen, like those things happened and it was
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  Speaker 1: a different I was a different person, and you know
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  Speaker 1: those choices, those are the choices that you make and
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  Speaker 1: they can come back to haunt you. Like that's the
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  Speaker 1: reality of having children. That's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So the Internet's up in the Internet's upset about it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: After watching the academics interview, I feel like she's givingtorials.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I will I will never watch a celebrity sex tape.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I have never seen a celebrity sex tape. I've not
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: seen Kim's. I have seen like obviously like clips or
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: shots of you know, unsolicited common across my desk, But
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I have never intentionally, like watched anyone's sex tape, not Paris,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: not Kim, not.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Pamela Anderson.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: When the big like celebrity nude leak happened, I did
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: not look at any of them. I don't believe in
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: that because I certain well certainly the nude leak was
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: non consensual. So I think it's very weird to look
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: at someone's nudes if they didn't consent for it to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: be made public, Like that's crazy, and the you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the excuse of like, oh well, if you didn't want
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it to be public, like, don't take it Like the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: fuck I can take a nude photo and send it
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to my man. That doesn't give that's not me giving
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you consent to hack my phone and put it on
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the internet.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Fuck is wrong with y'all.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: So I don't believe in looking at those things, the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: ones that are consentually put out, you know, do what
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: you want. They obviously did not care or they wouldn't
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: have put it out, but the ones that aren't a
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: non consentually put out, I just I it does not
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: sit right with me. And also, even though I know
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: it would never happen, I would hope that if something
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: non consensually came out about me of me, that the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: people who cared about me would.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Not look at it. I agree, which I know would
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: not happen.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: But you would not be going to academics have a
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: conversation about it either.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna I do. I'm not gonna be
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: discussing I'm not. Just if I have a sex tape,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know how I will react. I don't.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I know I won't be doing interviews about it, but
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I will. I don't know how I will react.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I don't also have like a sex tape.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, it would just be like, No, I don't
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: have a forty minute recording. Again, unless it was taken
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: against my concent you are there are any forty minutes
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of me having sex anywhere?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not having.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Sex with treatments the fuck out of here type of drugs?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Am I on? Absolutely not.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: You've got twelve minutes tops Okay, fucking crazy.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Minutes is a long time.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Forty minutes, I'm get the fuck out of here. So
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that's that's AI. But if if a clip came out
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: of me having sex, like that's something that like me
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and my partner at that time like took on on
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that phone and and like it would have had to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: been hacked otherwise that person's dead.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I had to no way, what else is gonna oh way?
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Ivanka Trump has she I'm just gonna quote her because
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I feel like this is what really hits. We were
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: on a friend's boat and we stopped for a swim. Effectively,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: that's how we found it. We swam to the islands,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: We went on a hike barefoot all the way up
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: to the top. We were just captivated, she told a
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: US based podcaster David Senra earlier this week, bringing the
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: attention of many in Albania and beyond. So she, in
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: her mind has discovered an island that no one listed,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: that has been there many many years now, a real
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: estate development project in the works.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: This Christopher Columbus ass bitch, It's truly like is colonizer blood?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Like it's crazy? How did you discover Albania? Bitch, fuck
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: are you talking about these people? Talk like everyone is
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: fucking stupid. This is a whole ass country talking about untouched. Bitch,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: there's a military it was used for military, Like, there's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: military stuff on the island. There's like tunnels. What the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: fuck is the term I'm looking for. I'm trying to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: remember what the fuck I'm saying. Perimenopause is kicking my ass.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: There is as it's a fucking oh, this is the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Albanian mob at that part. Yeah, it's like an army base.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: It's a cold war communist military base.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: On that island. Untouched.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: What there's a fucking military base with tunnels and infrastructure
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: on the islands.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: You didn't discover anything.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: This is a fucking corrupt sell off of a piece
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of land from the Albanian government to the Trump family.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: The space controls a specific strait between Italy and Albania.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: You're not full of no fucking body. This isn't the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: New World. This is twenty twenty six. No one's discovering
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: islands anymore.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: My guy.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: There's fucking satellites. We got shit on Mars. You're not
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: popping off on an island like, oh my god, this
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: has never been discovered.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: The entire world is mapped. There's a fucking Google map app.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: What well luxury resort coming soon.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Doug, Shut the fuck up.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: This untouched island untouched is so fucking crazy, bitch, What
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: are you talking about?
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Insane?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: There's literally a military base on the island.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It is very much touched.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Albanian people are riding about this, by the way, which
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: is of no surprise to me, because let me tell
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you something, if any one of you ever tell me
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that you got beef with Albanians, you on your fucking own.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Don't call me no more. You don't know me.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, I am not participating in no Albanian beef. Respect okay, please, like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: don't bring me into it. I'm not pulling up like
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: how you said earlier, Hayley that if I call you,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: If I call you, I'm like, yo, I got some
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: people with Albanians.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Stay your ass home, just click click out. Who who
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: is this? I don't know? You don't fucking call me.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: They are so fucked The Albanian people are literally like, bitch, no,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you're not bitch.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I wish you would. This is not happening. They don't
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: burn that bitch to the ground.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: So now everyone's saying that they're basically building this to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: be like Epstein Island too, because of the infrastructure that
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: already exists on this island.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That's untouched and discovered.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Imagine if Vanka Trump discovering anything, self awareness is what
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you should discover. This is This is a fucking insane
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: story to me. It's really like they really play in
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: our faces, like everyone around the world is dumb as fuck,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and like everyone around the world is an American. Y'all about
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to find out Albanians and Americans ain't the same type
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: of people.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: They're trying to say that the bowl was a roth
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Child's boat. They were with.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Their friends swimming in the atriotic.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Mitch, you went on a tour of a of a
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: retired military base in Albania.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: You lucky you came back. You lucky you came back.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. You know what the fuck
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing. If you told me I'm getting on
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a billionaire's boat, a roths Child's boat, to go to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Albania and go to an untouched island, I'm gonna have
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to decline that invite. I have enough adventure in my life.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I am not going to fuck with no Albanian people's ship.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Leave them alone.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Low key, though I kind of don't want them to,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: because let me tell you something, I don't know you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: If you got to beat with Albania, I don't know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I never knew.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I don't not know that person, mister Albania. I don't
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: know that person. I don't know her. I've never met
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: her in my life. Whatever you got to do, do it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to know. Beef zero zero beef what
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: else is going on?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: So I was on my algorithm and I came across
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: a real by my girl light skin Keisha, and she
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: essentially was saying in a video that if you're in
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: a good relationship, a good man, how mindful you should
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: be about what you share with your single friends. Right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: She goes on to say that not every friend understands love, commitment, longevity,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: all of the things you should be setting boundaries.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: They can bring in.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Toxic thoughts and behaviors your relationship. So this really got
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: my mind going, and I've been thinking about it ever since.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: The one thing that stood out was when she said
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: some people can only give advice from the world that
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: they live in, not the one that you're building and
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: that I can't get it out of my head because
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I've been on both sides of it, and I know
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: you have as well, So I just really want to
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: get your take on it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would say there is some truth
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: to that. I do think at some point in your
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: life you should have friends who are well rounded enough
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to either know when to speak on something and when.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: To be quiet.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Like I don't get involved in my married friend's business
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: with their with their husband.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't do nothing more than ask how
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: how are they doing?
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Was that a boundary they sit or you?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. That's not my business.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: You are married, this is not I'm not in married
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: people's business because the thing about married people's businesses, it's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: not mine. And I don't know the nuance. I don't
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: know what's going on behind closed doors. As long as
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: my friend is not being harmed, that's not my business.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Whatever they want to share with me is sacred, and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: they can share what they want to share. I am
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: not involving myself in married people's business. I have been married,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I have single. I have been in serious relationships. I
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: have been in toxic relationships. I can give advice across
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the board. But I don't need to give unsolicited advice
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: unless that person is absolutely bombarding me with constant this problems,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and I have to be like, bitch, the problem is
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you like, then I'm not doing I'm just not doing that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I do think that, like, at some point in your life,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you have to have friends who are on the same
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: level as you, no matter what the situation is, even
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: if you're not married. And I think, and I also
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: think if you take a if if you take your
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: relationship seriously, you shouldn't be sharing everything about your partner
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: with your friends anyway. You shouldn't be sharing every argument.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't be sharing every disagreement. You might have one
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: friends that you vent to that you know is is
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to see through those things. But the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: more that you share, the more energy you open up.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: To other people. And if you don't have strong.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Friends around you who respect your boundaries really without you
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: even having to ask or really even having to establish boundaries,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you probably don't have great friends around you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Like I don't have toxic friends.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I don't have a single friend that I'm like, damn,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: like they got some shit going on with them.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I don't have.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Time for that. People go through chapters, of course, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: like a weekend, not a fucking habit. It's not your personality.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I don't have a friend that I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: can't leave my man around, Like the fuck type of
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: shit is that. I'm almost forty years old, I'll be
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: worried about a friend around my man.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Hell no, So I do understand what she's saying. I do.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: But what I would say further than that is you
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: should have friends that you don't even have.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: To establish that type of shit with.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And also you should not be sharing too much about
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: your relationship, particularly if you're married.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: It's not anyone's business.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Like you convent that they don't close the fucking cupboard doors.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know what men's deal is with closing drawers.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: That shit drives me fucking crazy.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Like you can vent about shit like that, but the
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: whole you should not be dumping everything on your friends anyway.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: No, you can't. I learned that the hard way.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so have I.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think everyone has, but I just
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: think it's it's more just general. I would agree with her,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: but I do think it's it's more general advice. To
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: have friends that are on the same level as you, Like,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you can have single friends when you're married, But what
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: are your single friends doing? Are they acting like twenty
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: year olds or are they you know, dating seriously or
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: are they not dating?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Have they been divorced?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Are they on the same level as you mentally, emotionally, intellectually, spiritually,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: like are they aligned and doing things with good energy?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: If you keep in toxic people around you, it doesn't
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: matter whether you share or not, They're going to permeate
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: into your existence and your relationships one way or another.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I think it's more about just
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: having good, good, solid people around you than it is
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: necessarily like what was.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Her quote, Some people can only give advice from the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: world that they live in, not the one you're building.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's I think that's also that really
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: tends to skew young to me. Like when you are
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: just getting married and you're like in your early thirties
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: or you're in your you know, mid to late twenties,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you're still learning yourself, you're still building your career, you're
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: still discovering like what you stand for and stand on.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: You're going through a lot of changes I think once
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you get to a certain place in life where you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: are pretty formed and not making these like massive growths.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: If that's how you consistently are, you shouldn't be around.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And also like, don't get advice from everybody, Like stop
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: doing that.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I don't ask for advice from everyone.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: There are people who I adore that I will only
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: ask for advice on on like very fucking specific things.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: There are people I know I can ask for advice
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: on basically everything, and that doesn't mean I ask them
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: for advice either, Like stop needing constant feedback. You don't
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: need constant feedback. I promise you don't. The more feedback
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you get, the more distracted you get. You have to
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: at some point find a way to trust your gut
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and to solicit advice from people that, again, are on
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: your same energetic level. What a week, A lot of
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: shit going on, discovering new lands a gaa, a whole
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: fucking country called Albania.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: So crazy.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: You know how happy I was when I found out
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: it was Albania, Oh my god.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Because at first I was like, this, bitch, where the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: fuck did they go?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Discovering a new island that sounds exciting on Earth not
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: so lady that they've all been accounted for. That's how
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: that works, all right. Time to get to Never Too Personal.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: If you will make a part of the show, you
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: can email us to Personal Podcasts at gmail dot com,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: or you can follow us to Personal show. This question
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: is why do some people feel threatened when someone else
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: chooses to live openly and authentically. I believe this is
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: referring to, uh, Pride Month. I would assume, so, yeah,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna well, it's Pride Month.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: It's Pride Month. Of course, every time Pride Month comes.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Up, I lose thousands of followers, and people get very
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: upset that I support the gay community, and people do
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: get very threatened by people who are out and open
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: about their queerness, and Pride Month really upsets the evangelicals,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: which makes me like it even more. I have been
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: around gay people pretty much my entire life.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I had an uncle that was gay. I some of my.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Best friends from childhood, my next door neighbor, best friend
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: for six years, so many people like in my family, and.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I feel very.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Lucky that I got the education and the proximity to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the gay community, because it didn't just make me an ally,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: because I would have been an ally regardless. But I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: think it also is important.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: That you.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Are educated in a lot of different spaces. And when
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: it comes to gay people, there is this there's this
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: idea that it's like a new liberal thing to be
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: not just to be gay, but to just to be
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: out and gay. And I always like wonder if people
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: can read books, because.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: It's like read.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Read one page of one book nots called the Holy Bible,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and homosexuality was added to the Bible. If we want
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to get like a really technical, there have been gay
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: people since the beginning of time, ancient civilizations, long before snapchats, okay,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: long before crazy liberals, long before fake news, long before feminism,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: long before Pride month, long before rainbow flags.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: There have always been gay people.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: And in a lot of societies that meant nothing. It
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't anti religious, it wasn't it was just
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: a part and still is. There are plenty of societies
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: where there are multiple genders and it is ancient to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: be that way, and it is It is not applauded
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: or look down upon. It is what it is. It's
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: just reality. I think that it threatens people because we
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: have been indoctrinated as a religious society in a lot
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: of different religious spaces to.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Believe that believe things that were fabricated.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: And when it comes to Christianity, which I speak on
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the most because it's how I was raised, I find
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the other ing of gay people to be my easiest out.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: The other ing of women is an obvious out for me,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: but that happens in so many different spaces that aren't
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: even just religious that it is it's going to be
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: a lifelong fight. But saying that someone is going to
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  Speaker 1: hell for the way that they were born is it's
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  Speaker 1: just an easy way for me to say I I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to participate.
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  Speaker 2: I don't This is not for me.
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  Speaker 1: You can't tell me that people that I love have
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  Speaker 1: no chance of going to heaven because they are married
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  Speaker 1: to a man. I don't give a fuck about your religion.
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  Speaker 1: Then I think it's threatening to people. I can't understand why.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care why. I think anyone who believes
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  Speaker 1: they're better than someone else simply because of the way
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  Speaker 1: that they're born is an underdeveloped human in their brain,
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  Speaker 1: in their spirit, and their ability to understand the world.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I know I've been told like I
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  Speaker 1: speak down to people too much, like I'm too upity
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  Speaker 1: and all that. The other thing now, I don't I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: can't help it on this topic, I just don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I will never stop supporting the gay community, gay people.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even like thinking of it as being an
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  Speaker 1: ally or supporting. It's not something in my I've never
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  Speaker 1: thought of being like a supporter. I'm just a human
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  Speaker 1: being who loves other human beings. And I know it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: not at all that simple, because these communities are marginalized
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  Speaker 1: and abused and tortured and held out of things, and
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  Speaker 1: have rights taken away and are murdered.
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  Speaker 2: Constantly.
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  Speaker 1: So you do have to be an ally and an
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  Speaker 1: active ally at that in the way that I want
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  Speaker 1: people to be an ally for women, in the way
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  Speaker 1: that I want people to be an ally for black women.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. You know, the question is
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: why do people feel threatened. I think it's because they
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: are it's an unknown And then it becomes easier to say, well,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I don't have an experience with this, and I've been
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: told that it's bad, so therefore it is bad. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: then again, rather than just reading a book which would
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: clear up so many things they default to again was
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  Speaker 1: sold to them, which is that this is all a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: result of the queer agenda or the gay agenda, that
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: people are teaching people to be gay. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: anytime anyone says that I know that person's.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Gay, yeah, pretty much you're gay.
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  Speaker 1: If you're saying that people are teaching people to be gay,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that means you taught yourself to be straight.
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  Speaker 4: It really shouldn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how has it ever been a thought in
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: your mind of whether you're you're straight or not?
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  Speaker 4: No, I just like what I like, innate.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't have to teach yourself to like men, No,
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  Speaker 1: you just like men, Specs.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have to have an instruction manual on like
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: e women? You did not, because you're not gay.
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  Speaker 1: So what these people are telling us, and they absolutely
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  Speaker 1: don't realize it, is that they're very gay, and people
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  Speaker 1: be gay. Okay, people be gay.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my answer to that question, which I think
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  Speaker 2: they were talking about.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna run with that. We're gonna run with that.
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  Speaker 2: With it.
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