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The Guide | When Wisdom Sustains the Journey · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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  SPEAKER_01: So here we are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Over the last few episodes, I've been helping you walk through the roles that you've moved through in your story.
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  SPEAKER_01: The victim where pain is name, the villain where protection hardens into control, the hero where agency awakens and you choose to move.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so today, I get to share about the guide.
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  SPEAKER_01: Before you go any further, I want to say something that matters.
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  SPEAKER_01: Becoming a guide does not mean you've arrived.
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  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean your healing is complete.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't mean that you won't circle back to earlier parts of the story.
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  SPEAKER_01: You'll be playing old roles again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because the whole hearted journey is not linear, it's formative.
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  SPEAKER_01: You might live as a guide in one season and find yourself back in holy limit, or needing courage, or even repentance in the next chapter.
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  SPEAKER_01: In fact, every guide you admire has been a victim, a protector, and a hero more often than once.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that doesn't mean you're failing or you're automatically doing something wrong.
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  SPEAKER_01: It means you're human and God is at work forming you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here is where you'll find conversations where faith meets story and strategy for lasting transformation.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Amy Wicks, here to help you find wisdom and wholehearted rhythms for moments that matter most.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whether you're learning your type or deepening your spiritual formation, these conversations will remind you that the Enneagram shines a light, but Christ is the transformation.
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  SPEAKER_01: She doesn't rescue and she doesn't rush.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she doesn't position herself above others.
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  SPEAKER_01: A guide is someone who has stayed with her own story long enough to walk someone else without needing to control the outcome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Guides don't pull people forward, they walk beside.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not giving answers, they help others see more clearly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And most importantly, the guide doesn't become a guide because they're finished.
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  SPEAKER_01: The guide is the guide because they've learned how to stay.
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  SPEAKER_01: When I look back on my life, I didn't plan on becoming a guide.
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't have a title or a framework, and I certainly didn't feel ready.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what I did have was a willingness to heal, to sit a little longer and to ask good questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: As a teenager, young in my faith, I found myself having honest conversations about Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not church attendance or rules, but real life with him.
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  SPEAKER_01: In my 20s, still tender from early layers of healing, women began entrusting me with their stories.
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  SPEAKER_01: We would cry together and pray.
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  SPEAKER_01: We walked and talked slowly through life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then in my 30s, it was single women, mothers, women in grief and women finding their footing again, or hoping to.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now it looks like guiding women discerning purpose, calling, and how to live aligned lives of faith.
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  SPEAKER_01: The common thread here about being the guide wasn't a role or leadership.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was about walking faithfully with others.
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't become a guide because I had answers.
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  SPEAKER_01: I became a guide because I kept choosing healing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I learned how to keep asking good questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I just wanted to allow my story to offer a little light to others.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here's what matters most in this part of your story.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hero moments matter.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have to have a breakthrough.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have to exercise courage.
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  SPEAKER_01: But without wisdom, those moments, well, they eventually wear you out.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't sustain those big breakthrough moments.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's where the guide comes in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Guides is where insight becomes integrated.
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  SPEAKER_01: Courage becomes a steady walk in obedience.
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  SPEAKER_01: Agency is exercised little by little with the help of the Holy Spirit.
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  SPEAKER_01: And your effort gives way to discerning the next right thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if the hero says, I can choose differently, the guide asks, how do I live this wisely over time?
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  SPEAKER_01: And that question, my friend, will change everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course, I see scripture being really clear about this.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that is, there's only one perfect guide.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jesus promised the Holy Spirit not as a force to drive you, but as a presence to counsel, comfort, and remind you.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Holy Spirit doesn't shame, rush you, or push you to go further than you need to, or faster than you need to.
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  SPEAKER_01: The guide just gently walks with you, invites you to the formation that the Lord has for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And no matter what role that you are in, the Holy Spirit is there to guide you and circle back to the step of faith that you need in that moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you haven't heard me say this before, then please, I want you to hear it now because this really matters.
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  SPEAKER_01: A guide still needs a guide.
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  SPEAKER_01: You might help others heal and still need to return to holy lament yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: You may walk someone through courage and still find fear rising up in your own heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: You might be wise in one area and tenderly unformed in another area.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are seasons when I guide women through story work, Enneagram formation, and spiritual discernment.
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  SPEAKER_01: And in those same seasons, I'm sitting with my own counselor and spiritual director, processing my own unfinished places.
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  SPEAKER_01: But that doesn't disqualify me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It deepens me.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I offer to you, just because you can help others in one area doesn't mean because you need help in another area that you are disqualified.
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  SPEAKER_01: It actually deepens you and it makes you more authentic to this process.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because spiritual formation, my friend, is lifelong.
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  SPEAKER_01: As you continue to consider or even ponder the role of the guide in your life, not only what guide you need, but who you can guide, here's some questions to help you process through that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where have I taken brave steps and I'm ready to walk alongside someone else who needs to take those steps?
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  SPEAKER_00: Where do I need help sustaining my hero moments, not just starting?
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  SPEAKER_00: And what kind of wisdom, support, or guidance would help me in this next chapter?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like always, you don't have to answer all of it, but just notice or pay attention to what is drawing your attention.
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  SPEAKER_01: I even think the desire for guidance is itself wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your wholehearted story doesn't end with a guide.
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  SPEAKER_01: You'll move in and out of these roles throughout your life.
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  SPEAKER_01: The victim, the villain, the hero, and the guide.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the goal is to not stay in one role forever, but to recognize where you are and respond with wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jesus is the only perfect hero.
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  SPEAKER_01: The spirit is the only flawless guide.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you are becoming wholehearted, slowly, faithfully, and imperfectly.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you've enjoyed this series and it stirred something in you, maybe a desire to heal more deeply, to live more wisely, or to even walk with others more intentionally, don't rush it, but I want you to notice it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And like always, I have plenty of next steps for you in the show notes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Remember, guidance grows over times, and sometimes having a guide of your own is what allows your story to keep unfolding with grace.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wherever you find yourself today, telling the truth, choosing courage, or learning how to stay, may you trust the pace of formation and the story that the Lord is unfolding.
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  SPEAKER_01: May wisdom meet you where your efforts in, and may grace hold you where the path curves back.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your longing isn't a flaw, it's your compass towards God.
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  SPEAKER_01: And may you discover that your story is already becoming a light for someone else.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks so much for joining me for the Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: If this conversation spoke to you, please share it with a friend.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can also visit simply wholehearted.com to take the free Enneagram quiz and also get your personalized podcast playlist specific for your Enneagram type.
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  SPEAKER_01: And remember, friend, your starting point doesn't have to be your stuck point.