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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.101.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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  [SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to the IU report, a special double episode with Grant Shows and My Cutsle.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You can hear every week on the Central Indiana Sports Report, and we'll be back on Wednesday night with a reaction to IU's Big Ten opener at Minnesota.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back, IU fans to the Central Indian Sports Report for our weekly IU Report with Grant Shows in my console.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And this week, there's just not a lot to talk about Grant.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably going to be one of the more memorable weeks in IU athletic history.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, we all know about the Big Ten Championship on Saturday.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of the meaningless Big Ten Championship on Saturday.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I still want to win it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But we'll get into that more in the preview.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... and then the basketball uh... opens their victim play here on wensake it's Minnesota on the road up at the bar a tough kind of a tough place to play uh... and years past indiana has historically i don't want to say struggled up at the barn but they played games there that they either should not have been in or should not have let Minnesota be in
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know Minnesota's not very good, like they are a bottom feeder big 10 team, but any game in the league is important Mike and any game that you can win in the league is even better for your NCAA tournament out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: in the big 10, you got to take those with a degree of difficulty of 1.5 at least.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The barn is a place where I remember seeing Indiana win a lot of games.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like this house of horrors that like the Brezlin Center or the rack out of Rutgers where you just don't see Indiana go win often, but at the same time some of the worst memories I have as an IU fan.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: have occurred in that building.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the 50 point loss that happened well before Grant was born.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The 2013 team that was number one in the country most of the season.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They went up there and Tubby Smith got them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There was a Joe Pris bill up tip in at the buzzer that just comes to mind when I think of games that have hated in that building.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Archie Miller had about a 29 point lead there with one of his teams and Minnesota just started hitting shots that
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  [SPEAKER_01]: weren't even real.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They were like two steps inside half court and they cut it all the way down to like five or four.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those places where Indiana's wins, but the losses have a chance.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Have a tendency to be really, really memorable.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I really don't want to add another memory tomorrow.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is not a team that Indiana should have difficulty beating.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a team that
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What's the overtime with Doug Gottlieb and Green Bay earlier this season?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have a huge non-conference resume.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But, bro game in the big ten, it's the barn.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be freezing cold up there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You hate it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to protect this one because you got the big one coming up on Saturday.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: enough, fun fact about me.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I have been to the barn.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I've been to the University of Minnesota, and that place is really neat.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a neat arena.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the few courts and college basketball that has famously raised above the court, or above the floor, I should say.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It can be a tough place to play this is going to be a test for Indiana to open up conference play.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a good opponent, a favorable opponent to open up conference play.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to just go right in in a new coach and open up with like Michigan or Michigan stay to open up your conference play as a new coach in a new conference at Indiana.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: with their deliveries.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So this is a nice kind of way to ease your way into the league and get you ready for, of course, the Louisville game on Saturday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I will learn tonight the hard way that you don't want to go to Michigan State with a new coach to open the season.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They got ran by 20, 19, 20 points and they're they're big to an opener.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The whole season to me has been kind of a ramp up
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  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... the non-conference schedule is not gotten any help this week unfortunately bowling green goes to k-state and kind of runs them off the court last night at last check tonight market losing at home developer rezo uh... they don't have any even quad two wins uh... on the schedule so far and the first net that came out on monday where it came in at eleven
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and they're pleasing the computers from that standpoint, but their schedule's been really, really weak, and this is just kind of another step up the ramp, because as we know, you probably have undefeated Louisville on Saturday as the appetizer for the big 10 title game and football on Saturday evening.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, and that Louisville game is going to be so important because, yeah, the Kansas State win was great.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The mark at win was great, but if you can beat a top five team in Louisville on a neutral floor, we're Indiana struggled in years paths on neutral floors.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That is going to be such a boost for your program.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, Mike, I can tell you.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm okay with that team that this Indiana basketball team getting ran off the floor like they did against Auburn like they did that time out there in Vegas against Arizona.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm okay with that happening against Louisville if it means the football team wins at Lucas soil on Saturday nights.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a nice appetizer for those fans.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know you're going to get to go to the basketball game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming you're not going
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  [SPEAKER_02]: OK, Ed, check with the financial advisor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He won't pick up my calls this week.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he knows what I'm trying to reach him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to be, that's going to be a nice experience for some fans.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know a couple of people who I think are going to be doing the double header.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Downtown is going to be rocking Saturday.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a sea of red, not just from the Indiana fans, but of course Ohio is dating, you know, the few Louisville fans that will make their way up to the basketball game.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm looking forward to Saturday.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Ironically, enough guys, and I may get banned from the podcast for Mike.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not Greg, but I have a press pass for the 12 o'clock game for Purdue and I was state on Saturday afternoon, unbelievable.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a big game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was states played really well at the beginning of the year.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a big game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If I wasn't going to be in Indianapolis, I'd be tuned in, but go cyclones.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know that's the IU report, but I'm looking forward to that one just because I'm going to be what they're calling hate watching.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: up there pretty.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So absolutely, if you're doing anything, but I'd be taking over the podcast full-time in regards to basketball.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think obviously you need to see more of the things that we kind of saw out of the Kansas State game from the Cindy and a team.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oddly enough, we have not
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That that was the game that I have not really gotten a chance to watch yet.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not sure you really need to.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like skipping an episode in your favorite TV show.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You just kind of don't need to watch that episode.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So there were some highlights for that one if the biggest thing that came out of that game is for the first time this season we really got to look at Nick Dorn and what he can do offensively, you know, a guy who shot almost 50% from three last year at Elon, he was a 47% three point shooter, he knocked down four threes in that game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's the first time he's been trying to get his legs back under him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I watched him pretty closely at halftime in the case state game and.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The guy didn't hit the rim once shooting.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, obviously, you're shooting wide open.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're shooting more and up types shots.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I was like, get the bottom of that guy in that spot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just get him some confidence.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He finally played with a little more confidence.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about getting the third score and option for Indiana.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I still think he's the guy and he's another guy who could be a lethal outside shooter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the big takeaway from the Bethoon Cookman game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Just not a whole lot else out there to really talk about with that one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty lopsided from the word go.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, that's a great win.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a win that I'm not gonna boost your resume.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But the fifth cookman is kind of the way they sound, you know, you don't really know anything about them.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They don't really bring anything.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even really convinced this is a real place.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This may be like a Bishop's Snipermore Type feel.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Grant, I know we talked a lot about basketball.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk a little bit more about football, but we have to throw one thing in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's give a shout out to Coach Ayrton, the volleyball team.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hosting an NCAA, a top 16 seed in the NCAA tournament.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They'll be hosting on Thursday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That program just comes such a long way.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They haven't made the tournament in 15 years.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And in the Big Ten,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's, it's tough, tough, tough to build in the big team.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the premier ball.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the SEC of College Volleyball.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Clearly, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, you brought that up.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's a program that you've seen as kind of been building year the last few years.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Steve aired with that program is done a phenomenal job.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I've actually been one of those volleyball games.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They play Ohio State one time.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They play in a nice gym there at Wilkinson.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know if you ever had a chance to go in there.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I have not.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a neat little gym.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it'd be kind of cool to see Indiana basketball.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not the men, but like the women do like a red and white scrimmage in there.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: If you could set that up, I think that'd be pretty cool.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a nice little gym that they play in.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's good they're getting a host.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And they have a variety of players that have come from Indiana.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They've come through the Indiana pipeline and you have another program in the state and Purdue, they're their volleyball program that's just been outstanding for years.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And so for Indiana to start building that volleyball program up in the tough big 10 conference, you're sharing a conference with Nebraska of all people who is a power
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That is one of the good things, and that's a good sign of a, you know, a good program.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Things are up within the Indiana Athletic Department, man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, you know, with the volleyball, with the football, of course, you know, basketballs, off to a great start.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Women's basketballs only lost one game, they lost two.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Iowa State, where that girl from Iowa State, and I bigger names, Audi, Cux, or Audi Cux, score 47.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: against Indiana Tech or 47 points to beat that IE winning team.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So things are up right now and you love to see kind of the sports like, like volleyball, getting some love here at this point in the year.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But now we can talk about the main course.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing is I've spent the better part of probably two full days here research and
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  [SPEAKER_02]: for our preview for the Big Ten Championship game.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know we'll try and keep it a little brief because we'll have the separate preview coming out later this week.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Is that Indiana, Ohio State, is about as evenly matched, is about as evenly as matched of the game on paper.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: as you're going to see in the country may be all seasoned into the playoff in the regular season.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't evenly matched football game on paper coming up on Saturday and you don't play the game on paper, of course, play the game on the field.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I like their chances.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The lines drop from five and a half to four and a half on on some bedding sites.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think most bedding sites, the lines drop to four and a half.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And everyone I've talked to is that Ohio State's going to blow them out and win by 30.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Ohio State might win the game.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They might win the game.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think they're going to blow into the
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  [SPEAKER_00]: anybody who says that's a moron.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He said by the numbers, they're the two most evenly match.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you've watched college football season, Mike is pretty obvious that these two teams are evenly matched.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if you've noticed or not, it seemed like all the
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like last year, the lot of what he did was to deflect the pressure off of the team and put it squarely on him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He did it in the Notre Dame game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He did it in the Ohio State game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been pretty subdued pretty quiet this week.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned how he tried to take that pressure off his team.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of what Bob Knight tried to do back in the day as well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just been he's been quiet he's been very complimentary of course the Ohio State fans is like because he's scared.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He knows what we're going to do to him because we did it to him last year, but I think the most and the thing we can talk about most tonight, and we can get more into the game itself later this week, but the way the rankings came out today, two things from the ranking shows stood out to me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One organ solidly in that fifth spot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and A&M slid so far down that I don't think that there's any real scenario now, that Indiana doesn't get a top four seed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Indiana's not going to fall behind Oregon head to head is supposed to count.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But the other thing is that the committee came out today and said something that they outright denied last year and said this this week will have an impact on the overall standing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you have an I get team at number 11 and BYU who they'd be number 11 if they weren't playing this week and that they could lose the Texas Tech a second time and all of a sudden Miami could possibly jump in there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: has a chance to move up if they can knock off Georgia Georgia could fall out of that top top four spot because they play this weekend.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's a huge mistake by the committee to do things like that because I think you're really, really, really and we've talked about this before.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're really making it hard to justify playing these conference championship games.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And essentially here two things first being like with Notre Dame will have a free shot to that playoff every single year because they don't play a conference championship game so it's not like they could lose their conference championship game.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: and be out of the play off all together.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's just absolutely ridiculous in my opinion.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's smart on Notre Dame, it's a loophole, and they take advantage of it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Second thing is with the Big Ten Championship on Saturday, this game is, I think,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: both teams are going to get a top four by no matter who wins or loses.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You're really just playing to see who's going to be the number one seed.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all you're playing for is to see who's going to be the number one seed in the playoff on Sunday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you play well enough, you could be the number two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The only team that Georgia could move up, obviously with the win, Texas Tech could move up, obviously they dominate again the way they did DYU the first time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you play well, you play a close game against number one, number two, you could very well be the number two team still when they released the brackets on Sunday afternoon, and we do plan on correct me if I'm wrong right, but we do plan on having a reaction to the college football playoff bracket correct, of course.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Craig, you got the Purdue pod later tonight.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to know Purdue's reaction with the guy who got the targeting call in the bucket game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How that is going to impact the first half of their bowl to gain.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: See the college basketball rankings came up today.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Romanda.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Craig, he's still talking about rankings in December.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know we didn't even mention Indiana moving up to number 19 in the country in basketball.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's how we relevant they are.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Once you get into January, I think they start to be in relevant.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I also saw every actual metric besides the one that the pollsters are involved has Michigan right number one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Michigan and Purdue is going to be held.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because they've had more opportunity.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Really, step your deal away.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Quick trivia question, guys.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: New is favorite in 30 of their 31 games this year and he guessed the game they're not favorite, according to ESPN analytic.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Messed again.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know their home in a way, so I don't really have a guess.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: At IU.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Really.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A couple of close twins were at UCLA at USC at Maryland, but mostly, Michigan State is only at Purdue.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Michigan's only at Purdue this year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Poor kids, federal.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But he has to be an analytics like that, you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Centro and Dana Sports Report is a project by T.G.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Media.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that looks as good.