Latest / The Paul Barron Crypto Show / Ethereum + Uniswap vs Congress!🔥U.S. Hearing on Crypto
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Today I'm gonna break down a hearing and the Clarity Act.
- 0:08Speaker 1: This is all about Uniswapping Ethereum. You don't want to
- 0:11Speaker 1: miss it. My name is Paul Barrel. Welcome back in
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- 0:43Speaker 1: want to get into a lot of what's going on
- 0:45Speaker 1: right now around this hearing and the market Structure Bill
- 0:49Speaker 1: is going to have the most effect around what's going
- 0:51Speaker 1: on with DeFi and Ethereum. One of the guys to
- 0:55Speaker 1: keep an eye on is this guy right here, Timothy Maussati.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Is the research fellow and director of Digital Assets. He
- 1:01Speaker 1: might bet Gesler two point out, I want to get
- 1:03Speaker 1: into a few clips here because this will get into
- 1:04Speaker 1: a little bit more of a detail. Now, this is
- 1:07Speaker 1: the Ethereum and uniswap intro that gives you a little
- 1:10Speaker 1: bit of insight. Take a look.
- 1:12Speaker 3: One forty billion dollars of stable coins, ten billion dollars
- 1:15Speaker 3: of real useful tokenized assets, and institutional grade financial applications
- 1:20Speaker 3: live on Ethereum. Blackrock, Franklin, Templeton, Fidelity, Deutsche Bank, UBS
- 1:25Speaker 3: and many more are already building on Ethereum because it
- 1:28Speaker 3: is the most secure and most decentralized settlement layer in
- 1:31Speaker 3: the world. For Ethereum, it means over a million validators
- 1:34Speaker 3: all around the world independently verifying transactions and ensuring trust
- 1:39Speaker 3: without a single point of failure. All of this happened
- 1:42Speaker 3: despite regulatory uncertainty.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Uniswap Labs has always been an American company, and we
- 1:48Speaker 2: want to stay in America for the long term. We
- 1:51Speaker 2: as a company spent millions of dollars a year four
- 1:53Speaker 2: years on an SEC investigation when the SEC never told
- 1:58Speaker 2: us the basis of the instigation, and ultimately three years
- 2:02Speaker 2: later it didn't sue us. This was all before we
- 2:04Speaker 2: were a profitable company that could have killed a lot
- 2:07Speaker 2: of businesses, and that approach, we know did kill a
- 2:10Speaker 2: lot of businesses. So I believe that time is of
- 2:12Speaker 2: the essence for market structure legislation.
- 2:15Speaker 3: All of this. Well ten X are one hundred X
- 2:18Speaker 3: with clear rules of the road, and.
- 2:19Speaker 1: I totally agree with this in the sense that if
- 2:21Speaker 1: we don't get market structure underway, this could have some
- 2:24Speaker 1: major effect on not only innovation, but I think also
- 2:27Speaker 1: a lot of companies here in the United States abroad
- 2:29Speaker 1: as well. And it's so critical. You would think that
- 2:33Speaker 1: the Democrats would take the time to read a little
- 2:37Speaker 1: bit of what's happening. Watch this clip. Well, here's the bill.
- 2:41Speaker 4: I doubt that any of my colleagues read all of it.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Mister Massad.
- 2:46Speaker 5: I haven't a chance to read all two hundred and
- 2:48Speaker 5: thirty six pages of the bill.
- 2:50Speaker 6: It's a very complicated bill. As I'm trying to go
- 2:54Speaker 6: through this, it wasn't that I didn't miss it.
- 2:56Speaker 1: It was that it wasn't in there, or it wasn't it's.
- 2:59Speaker 6: A complicated bill. I'm still understanding it. But I think
- 3:02Speaker 6: you're right I would how many of my folks on
- 3:06Speaker 6: the other side have actually raid.
- 3:08Speaker 1: This and analyzed this, wading through two hundred and sixty
- 3:10Speaker 1: three pages of dense text, which is about.
- 3:12Speaker 4: Number ninety on my top ten list of things to do.
- 3:16Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I don't know how many folks have
- 3:18Speaker 7: had the chance.
- 3:19Speaker 5: To be able to do that.
- 3:20Speaker 4: Members that can't read the three hundred page of bill,
- 3:23Speaker 4: they can at least read your ten pages of testimony
- 3:25Speaker 4: and that two page statement.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Let's see here, this bill doesn't provide clergy.
- 3:35Speaker 2: It creates confusion.
- 3:38Speaker 7: This bill should actually be called the Complexity Act.
- 3:42Speaker 5: I should point out, Okay, is there any provision in
- 3:46Speaker 5: the bill in the SAD that says US tax dollars
- 3:50Speaker 5: cannot be spent to buy crypto and put it into
- 3:52Speaker 5: Trump coin or Skipity toilet coin. So I look forward
- 3:59Speaker 5: to working with my colleagues to improve the bill.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Can you repeat the question I said?
- 4:04Speaker 7: Do you believe that this bill is ready.
- 4:07Speaker 2: For us to mark up literreaty, go through it and
- 4:10Speaker 2: send it to the floor.
- 4:11Speaker 1: There are imperfection sure.
- 4:12Speaker 4: I just need a yes for no because my time's
- 4:14Speaker 4: running not it.
- 4:14Speaker 7: I do think it's ready for a markup. At a committee.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Miss mink ready for markup?
- 4:19Speaker 6: Okay, mister must absolutely not.
- 4:22Speaker 3: I think it's ready, is it, Reisman?
- 4:24Speaker 1: This is congressman. I do think it's ready for markup?
- 4:26Speaker 3: All right, thank you?
- 4:27Speaker 4: I yo Beck.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Of course, this is what their job is. Just as
- 4:30Speaker 1: a reminder, our lawmakers are there to understand legislation and
- 4:35Speaker 1: that is done through bills, and bills of course are complex.
- 4:40Speaker 1: This is why they were voted in. I'm surprised that
- 4:42Speaker 1: they're at this level. I want to go in and
- 4:44Speaker 1: maybe we'll just outline it a little bit for them.
- 4:46Speaker 1: What's in the bill. Take a look.
- 4:48Speaker 8: You said legislate based on facts. That is clearly not
- 4:51Speaker 8: what is happening here. The bill establishes a robust suite
- 4:54Speaker 8: of requirements, including issuer disclosure requirements, lock up periods for
- 5:00Speaker 8: insiders when they're not allowed to sell and then limited
- 5:04Speaker 8: in their ability to sell to protect those retail investors,
- 5:07Speaker 8: clear standards for custody and segregation of customer funds, and
- 5:11Speaker 8: listing standards for digital commodity platforms.
- 5:14Speaker 1: The guy that was at this hearing, he gets into
- 5:17Speaker 1: some detail here around stable coins, and remember staplecoint is
- 5:19Speaker 1: going to be the first thing that really takes place here,
- 5:22Speaker 1: and he is hopefully at washing and say hopefully he
- 5:25Speaker 1: is advocating for banks to actually control stable coins. Take
- 5:30Speaker 1: a look.
- 5:31Speaker 6: We need to impose obligations on stable coin issuers to
- 5:34Speaker 6: monitor wallets. We need to give the treasury authority over
- 5:39Speaker 6: stable coin transactions. That we need to give the treasury
- 5:42Speaker 6: more authority because stable coins and other crypto assets can
- 5:47Speaker 6: be transferred without going through an intermediary like a bank.
- 5:53Speaker 6: That's where you create the risk.
- 5:56Speaker 3: What I think is going to happen. My prediction here
- 5:59Speaker 3: is we're going to have the mother of all financial
- 6:01Speaker 3: crises in this country. Tell me I'm wrong. The key
- 6:04Speaker 3: point is centralization is what's caused collapses. Centralizations caused crises.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Decentralization means security and reliability and oft time and decentralization
- 6:15Speaker 3: is an ideal that all projects should strive towards to
- 6:18Speaker 3: improve the security of the crypto ecosystem.
- 6:21Speaker 1: All right, So the mother of all financial crisis, I
- 6:24Speaker 1: think that we might already be in what it's called
- 6:26Speaker 1: the national debt. Decentralization is the route. It is freeing
- 6:31Speaker 1: the money. It is the future of how digital assets
- 6:34Speaker 1: and what we'll know as money is going to happen.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I think the question is how is this going to
- 6:39Speaker 1: make its way through DC with these kind of people
- 6:43Speaker 1: out there trying to make this all happen. Now, one
- 6:45Speaker 1: of the things is in how this could actually work
- 6:49Speaker 1: is show functional ways and understanding that blockchain, decentralized blockchain
- 6:55Speaker 1: as well as defiant general can be utilized in very
- 6:59Speaker 1: huge applications. One of them is in reference to even payroll.
- 7:04Speaker 1: This is where Ethereum could actually help in this place.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Take a look right now, payroll is inefficient. Employees are
- 7:11Speaker 3: paid bi weekly or monthly. Companies have to wire funds
- 7:14Speaker 3: to a payroll provider, and there are multiple intermediaries. Settlement
- 7:18Speaker 3: can take multiple days. Ethereum enables real time automated payments
- 7:22Speaker 3: that traditional systems cannot match. Freelancers and gig workers can
- 7:26Speaker 3: now get paid by the second as they work, no delays,
- 7:29Speaker 3: no middlemen. Multiply this effect across millions of US businesses
- 7:34Speaker 3: and the impact is enormous.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Crypto's the answer to payroll.
- 7:37Speaker 5: I'm an old CPA. You need payroll services because you
- 7:40Speaker 5: have to calculate the deductions. Nobody on the Internet's going
- 7:43Speaker 5: to do that for free.
- 7:45Speaker 1: The current payment system is just fine, all right. I
- 7:48Speaker 1: don't know that I would agree with that the current
- 7:49Speaker 1: payment system is slow and accurate, tedious expensive. The problems
- 7:54Speaker 1: that many companies face globally is they have to engage many,
- 7:59Speaker 1: many people companies, et cetera. Just to be able to
- 8:02Speaker 1: engage on a payroll that's done every week or every
- 8:05Speaker 1: two weeks, that is a challenge. I think that decentralization will,
- 8:09Speaker 1: of course address And this is just showing you an
- 8:11Speaker 1: example of them being able to power payroll through ethereum
- 8:17Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five thousand recipients. This is money
- 8:19Speaker 1: streaming out to what's going on in the market. These
- 8:23Speaker 1: are the kind of things that I think this is
- 8:25Speaker 1: where our lawmakers are falling down. They don't really understand
- 8:29Speaker 1: the technology. They don't understand the leap forward we're about
- 8:32Speaker 1: to take in the monetary system, and it's much like
- 8:36Speaker 1: what happened in the early days of the Internet. They
- 8:37Speaker 1: didn't understand that either. Now here's a clip on Sean
- 8:40Speaker 1: Casten who claims that UNIEWAP isn't decentralized. Take a look.
- 8:45Speaker 4: Doesn't the fact that the UNISWAP Foundation can unilaterally make decisions.
- 8:50Speaker 4: Doesn't that weaken any claim of it being decentralized.
- 8:52Speaker 2: The UNISWAP Foundation cannot make any unilateral government governance change
- 8:57Speaker 2: the level.
- 8:57Speaker 4: Well, the criticisms out there, I mean they that exists
- 9:00Speaker 4: the UNI.
- 9:00Speaker 6: Swap protocol, right, Sure, that's autonomous software, but there's the
- 9:07Speaker 6: UNISWAP interface.
- 9:09Speaker 1: All right. So you look at UNI swap in general,
- 9:12Speaker 1: I think they one, they don't really understand where this
- 9:14Speaker 1: is going. But when you look at the app versus
- 9:17Speaker 1: the protocol, protocol is where anybody can utilize it completely decentralized.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Just an example here that I'm showing to the app itself. Yes,
- 9:25Speaker 1: that's a business, but the protocol is enabling pretty much
- 9:28Speaker 1: anybody in DeFi to be able to use this. So
- 9:31Speaker 1: this is a good example of where this goes. Right now,
- 9:33Speaker 1: there's on V four, there's V one, a breakdown on
- 9:37Speaker 1: V two v three. You can see the potential of
- 9:42Speaker 1: being able to use a variety of cases around UNISWAP
- 9:45Speaker 1: decentralized finance. And that's why it's important remember that Sushi
- 9:50Speaker 1: swap that last paragraph right there. Since its inception, as
- 9:53Speaker 1: for sushi swap has evolved as a differentiated itself from UNISWAP,
- 9:58Speaker 1: but its origins as a unie swap for our textbook example.
- 10:02Speaker 1: So this is a good example of how it can
- 10:05Speaker 1: be used. We will see so many variations of this
- 10:09Speaker 1: as we move forward. And I think that's the thing
- 10:11Speaker 1: that is causing a little bit of struggle around the
- 10:15Speaker 1: market structure. Bill and one is just understanding how DeFi
- 10:19Speaker 1: is going to work. And I think that's the problem
- 10:21Speaker 1: that DC of course is facing. Let's get into another
- 10:23Speaker 1: point right here, and this is getting into where unicewap
- 10:27Speaker 1: and casting kind of go at it, and you'll see
- 10:30Speaker 1: what I mean. Take a look.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Would unicewap be required to screen and verify customer identities? No,
- 10:36Speaker 4: they don't have any obligation to disclose anything. And you
- 10:39Speaker 4: can launder all your money through there. My god, Why
- 10:42Speaker 4: isn't the industry saying I don't want to be a
- 10:43Speaker 4: part of that. Come on, folks, gentlemen, time has expired.
- 10:52Speaker 5: There's no limit to how extreme nonsense can gain credibility.
- 10:59Speaker 2: And wash sheer nonsense to craft laws. Because we assume
- 11:04Speaker 2: that every citizen is a crook, money laundering is still illegal,
- 11:08Speaker 2: fraud is still illegal.
- 11:09Speaker 8: Why is it important for the Clarity Act to enshrine
- 11:12Speaker 8: the right to self custody and digital assets.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Then my family was personally debanked in twenty twenty one
- 11:19Speaker 2: for no legitimate reason, even worse than that the bank
- 11:23Speaker 2: held onto our money and wouldn't tell us for a
- 11:26Speaker 2: period of two months if or when we would ever.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Get it back.
- 11:29Speaker 2: That is something that happens to everyday Americans all the time.
- 11:33Speaker 2: They're shut out of our traditional finance system. But now
- 11:36Speaker 2: we have technology so that any American can safely, securely
- 11:40Speaker 2: and digitally hold their own assets in their own control
- 11:45Speaker 2: and their own custody. Having this option, it should be
- 11:48Speaker 2: available to all Americans.
- 11:50Speaker 1: All right. That is probably what scares the living but
- 11:53Speaker 1: Jesus out of these people, and that is that this
- 11:56Speaker 1: is a major transition in the financial system, andactly right,
- 12:01Speaker 1: this changes everything, and it does put a lot of
- 12:04Speaker 1: pressure on the status quo. So you have to consider
- 12:08Speaker 1: a lot of this now. If you think about centralization,
- 12:11Speaker 1: we already know the debacle that has been happening there
- 12:14Speaker 1: and one of them, of course, has been happening even
- 12:17Speaker 1: with our own coinbase. Centralization is the problem, and I
- 12:20Speaker 1: think even hester Pierre, she mentioned this last week at
- 12:22Speaker 1: the Bitcoin conference, is that we've gone too far with
- 12:25Speaker 1: aml a KYC, meaning in many cases you just don't
- 12:28Speaker 1: need it. And in this kind of scenario where if
- 12:31Speaker 1: people want to do that, they're able to go out
- 12:34Speaker 1: and do their own holding of their own assets. And
- 12:37Speaker 1: I think that's the challenge that everybody is facing now.
- 12:40Speaker 1: They of course, are playing a lot of this into
- 12:42Speaker 1: the political ploy around Trump's meme coin, and they're using
- 12:47Speaker 1: this as part of it to try to continue to
- 12:49Speaker 1: defend against that. Take a look at this clip.
- 12:52Speaker 7: First of all, let me just say that I think
- 12:55Speaker 7: the Jewish dictional issue could be settled. It's been talked
- 13:01Speaker 7: about for a long time, but I don't know how
- 13:04Speaker 7: we get past the corruption. Trump doesn't want Americans to
- 13:08Speaker 7: use his two Trump doesn't just want Americans to use
- 13:14Speaker 7: this crypto. He wants to put our money in his
- 13:17Speaker 7: digital wallet to attend his shady mema coin dinner. Where
- 13:22Speaker 7: did they get Walmart, Staate, Costco, freezer, ale, halibut, recycled
- 13:28Speaker 7: talking points, and just twenty minutes of Trump time. I
- 13:32Speaker 7: guess you get what you pay for.
- 13:34Speaker 4: Don't be distracted by the politics on the other side,
- 13:38Speaker 4: ill advised and cheap shot that we are engaging in politics.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Bitcoin is it an all time high.
- 13:44Speaker 8: They don't like it, and that's why they opposed this built.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Thank you, Wow cool.
- 13:49Speaker 8: The gentleman yields back the gentleman from California, mister Vargas,
- 13:53Speaker 8: who is minutes Barney.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Oooh, handing them a little bit of their own slice
- 13:57Speaker 1: of pie. I see, and if you kind of can
- 14:00Speaker 1: pair of what's been happening out there before, well we've
- 14:02Speaker 1: seen this. Actually before, there's been another version of that,
- 14:06Speaker 1: and that was Hunter Biden's our collection and five million
- 14:09Speaker 1: bucks to help with the tax build. You guys may
- 14:12Speaker 1: not recognize this painting, but this was a Hunter Biden painting.
- 14:16Speaker 1: I didn't even know he was an artist, but he
- 14:17Speaker 1: was actually getting millions of dollars for these paintings, and
- 14:19Speaker 1: the Biden was aware of the identities that most of
- 14:22Speaker 1: his art Bighters, despite what the White House was saying,
- 14:25Speaker 1: so value of these paintings went down to zero, so
- 14:28Speaker 1: all of that completely disappeared. No one's buying Hunter Biden's
- 14:33Speaker 1: paintings anymore. And it's really no different the point we're
- 14:37Speaker 1: getting at all a political ploy. We're dealing with non
- 14:40Speaker 1: bipartisan situations which all center around this Market Structure Act
- 14:45Speaker 1: and this is a very important one because it will
- 14:47Speaker 1: change how we move forward around not only crypto, but
- 14:51Speaker 1: I think a lot of innovations in technology for the future.
- 14:55Speaker 1: So one other thing I want to add here is
- 14:57Speaker 1: when you look at a world with out this bill
- 15:00Speaker 1: in place, there is a lot of the problems that
- 15:04Speaker 1: we've already seen everything FTX to the voyagers, We've seen
- 15:07Speaker 1: it all take place. We need this kind of legislation
- 15:10Speaker 1: to change this. And this is strike Jack Maller's everyone
- 15:13Speaker 1: else is looking to utilize strikes bitcoin loan offering. Well,
- 15:16Speaker 1: the problem is is hypothication. Rehapithification means that you think
- 15:20Speaker 1: you've given it to them, but in reality, in the
- 15:22Speaker 1: terms of the loan agreement, they talk about rehypothication, which
- 15:27Speaker 1: means that people are doing something with your digital asset
- 15:31Speaker 1: behind your back. This is Jack Mahler's trying to defend
- 15:35Speaker 1: against this.
- 15:35Speaker 9: Take a look, yo, what is going on bitcoin? A
- 15:40Speaker 9: quick update from us at Strike. We just updated our
- 15:44Speaker 9: loan agreement to clear the air and remove any confusion
- 15:48Speaker 9: that the bitcoin collateral that you have at Strike is
- 15:52Speaker 9: safely held by us and our partners in segregated wallets.
- 15:56Speaker 9: There's no funny business there's no trading, there is no
- 15:59Speaker 9: online and most importantly, there is no rehighpothication. Okay, why
- 16:06Speaker 9: did we make this update? We hear you guys loud
- 16:09Speaker 9: and clear the feedback we were getting, the rightful feedback
- 16:12Speaker 9: we were getting. So with that in mind, I figured
- 16:14Speaker 9: I'd come on here record a video. So sometimes we
- 16:18Speaker 9: have wallets set up where we pledge some collateral to
- 16:23Speaker 9: the partner.
- 16:24Speaker 1: All right, So there These kind of things are antics
- 16:27Speaker 1: that you know, are just really sketchy. And I think
- 16:29Speaker 1: that's the issue is once a bill like this goes through,
- 16:32Speaker 1: which will require companies like Strike not to even be
- 16:36Speaker 1: able to do that along with banks and other asset holders.
- 16:40Speaker 1: This is a huge step in the right direction because
- 16:43Speaker 1: this is still a situation. If they've done it once,
- 16:46Speaker 1: can they do it again? Can they update the terms
- 16:47Speaker 1: of service? Yes, you guys have seen this so many times.
- 16:50Speaker 1: These terms of services are constantly being updated right in
- 16:54Speaker 1: the middle of agreements, and you thought what was going
- 16:57Speaker 1: on isn't actually so this is the issue that we
- 16:59Speaker 1: are are facing right now in the digital asset market.
- 17:03Speaker 1: The stable cooin bill is going to happen. First, we
- 17:05Speaker 1: all know that. And here's one of the reasons. Obviously, Circle,
- 17:08Speaker 1: one of the major companies out there on stable coins,
- 17:11Speaker 1: went public today under the code or under their signed
- 17:15Speaker 1: Circle CrCL. This will be first stable coins and then
- 17:19Speaker 1: we'll see the market structure start to play into it.
- 17:21Speaker 1: It's coming, guys, whether they like it or not, whether
- 17:24Speaker 1: they played bipartisanship or not. A lot of this is grandstanding.
- 17:28Speaker 1: It is coming, and there's nothing I think that the
- 17:30Speaker 1: industry is going to be able to do about it.
- 17:32Speaker 1: We've already seen major moves from JP Morgan to Blackrock
- 17:36Speaker 1: to a large amount of institutional capital. This is not
- 17:40Speaker 1: going to slow down. If you guys are not in
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