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11-10-26 Hour 3 - Stiddy on the market?/Chronicling the Nuggets travel issues/Keys to the Game · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: Mike Sanford is heading to Smoothie King in DTC today
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  Speaker 3: I just had one yesterday that was delicious.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I want some trades to happen. It's too quiet.
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  Speaker 5: There was just one.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles flipped an edge rusher to the Bengals in
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  Speaker 3: exchange for a six-round pick. Schefter just tweeted out the
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  Speaker 3: Vikings have begun making calls around the league about trading
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  Speaker 3: for a quarterback. So we'll see if something comes of that.
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  Speaker 3: I still think maybe Jarrett Stidham is a possibility.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Bottom line is this. I'll reiterate where we started this morning.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be upset if nothing happens by 2.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's funny. If there's a team that does
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  Speaker 6: call for Stiddy, what are you going to get back?
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  Speaker 6: What would you anticipate they give you back?
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  Speaker 5: A fifth or a sixth, probably.
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  Speaker 4: A fifth, probably. Seventh?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they do, like, you get a fifth, we flip
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  Speaker 3: you a seventh or a sixth or something.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Like a swap or something. Something like that.
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  Speaker 7: So what you're saying is our discussion from training camp
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  Speaker 7: regarding Sam Ellinger, that the Broncos would be fine rolling
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  Speaker 7: with him as their backup from this point on, because
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  Speaker 7: if you lose Bo Nix, then it doesn't matter anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying?
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  Speaker 5: If the Broncos, yeah. If they lose Bo Nix, you're toast.
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think, like, the.
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  Speaker 3: Holding on to the asset that is Jarrett Stidham is
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  Speaker 3: like a massive thing, but I know that Sean Payton
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  Speaker 3: really likes him.
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  Speaker 5: You know, here's what's funny.
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  Speaker 3: How much of the perception of Jarrett Stidham would be
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  Speaker 3: different had he not played last year?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well, but.
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  Speaker 7: If you're going by just the AFC title game, dude,
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  Speaker 7: that was a tough game for everybody.
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  Speaker 5: I totally agree with you.
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  Speaker 7: Drake may have had a bad day. Everybody had a
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  Speaker 7: bad day.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's unfair to judge Jarrett Stidham by that game.
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  Speaker 3: But guess what? Broncos fans did.
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  Speaker 7: That being said, to me, backup quarterbacks, and I know
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  Speaker 7: that Peyton likes him.
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  Speaker 4: That's his guy. I get that.
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  Speaker 7: To me, if you're a backup quarterback, to me, a
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  Speaker 7: dime a dozen anyway. to be honest, because you need
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  Speaker 7: to have that top number.
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  Speaker 4: One guy, a high end guy.
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  Speaker 7: So if they can get anything for an aging player
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  Speaker 7: that they don't use, I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 4: Period.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's, here's, if the Vikings call me and I'm
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  Speaker 3: George Payton and they want Jared Stidham, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I say?
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  Speaker 5: It's a fourth. No, I say fourth round pick. And
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  Speaker 5: they go, are you crazy? I'm not giving you a fourth.
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  Speaker 5: And they go, oh yeah. Have fun with Carson Wentz.
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  Speaker 6: Click. That team's desperate.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever.
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  Speaker 5: That team's desperate.
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  Speaker 7: If they called me, I'd say, you guys got any
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  Speaker 7: new kicking tees? Take a couple of those. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: that sounds, you know, probably mean, but if you can
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  Speaker 7: get anything for an aging backup quarterback, do it.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the other thing, man.
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  Speaker 3: I just think the Broncos are in a place where
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  Speaker 3: you have things that you can help your football team with.
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  Speaker 5: They aren't perfect, okay? And there's a number of different
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  Speaker 5: things you can do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked about the offensive line. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's too hard to find good offensive linemen to trade
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  Speaker 3: for midseason. It's just too hard. Even the Quentin Nelson
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  Speaker 3: trade that just happened, well, guess what? Quentin Nelson's now hurt.
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  Speaker 3: He just had surgery. Like, he's not going to go
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  Speaker 3: on IR, but he's going to miss a few games
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  Speaker 3: in Seattle. It's just really hard to find that. The
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  Speaker 3: easiest thing you can do, and Ryan Harris broke it down,
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  Speaker 3: I asked him, even if you think the problems in
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos' run game stem from offensive line not opening
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  Speaker 3: up holes, I asked Ryan, I go, if you get
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  Speaker 3: a good, a great back in here, does that change
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  Speaker 3: even if your offensive line isn't opening up holes?
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  Speaker 4: And he goes, yes, it does.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Terrell Davis thought the same thing last year when
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  Speaker 6: I asked him that Super Bowl week. Do you remember that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he said it was the Super Bowl week. He
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  Speaker 4: said it was the running backs.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, what's the problem here? He says it's
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  Speaker 6: running backs. And here's a guy, you know, is he
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  Speaker 6: going to take a shot? He's a former running back himself.
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  Speaker 6: I think he saw. Hey, guys, by the way, Philly
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  Speaker 6: is in full sell mode. They just sent another player
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  Speaker 6: for a pick. They sent a player to the Bengals here,
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  Speaker 6: and I don't know if they're done yet. But the
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  Speaker 6: Bengals acquired Arnold. How do you get here?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how you say his name.
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  Speaker 6: Bickety.
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  Speaker 4: Bickety.
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  Speaker 5: Bickety.
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  Speaker 4: Bicketow. Bickety.
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  Speaker 2: Bickety.
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  Speaker 4: Bickety.
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  Speaker 6: But they're doing their thing. And the sell now modes
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  Speaker 6: that teams are in, this is, I agree with you, Kaner.
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  Speaker 5: We disagreed a lot on this show today, but I
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  Speaker 5: agree with you.
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  Speaker 6: I will be.
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  Speaker 4: Somewhat disappointed. I think it's Ebiketti, I think.
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  Speaker 6: I will be somewhat disappointed if the Broncos don't do
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  Speaker 6: something today to improve their roster. Because something is better
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  Speaker 6: than nothing. And even if it's not a first-teamer, depth
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  Speaker 6: is good going into the playoffs. You'll need it.
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  Speaker 5: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, when you look at what the Jaguars are doing,
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  Speaker 7: they've gotten three different guys, including that defensive tackle. I mean, they're...
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  Speaker 7: They're like the Jags are being serious. That little old
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  Speaker 7: team from Duval. That little old team.
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  Speaker 4: From Duval, man. They're making moves. Well, good for them.
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  Speaker 2: Duval.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the other thing. Philly is in sell mode.
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  Speaker 3: The thing that would least shock me as far as
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  Speaker 3: a trade the Broncos would make today would be a
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  Speaker 3: trade for Goddard.
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  Speaker 5: It just makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 3: He's 6'5, he's 260 pounds, maybe a bigger red zone
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  Speaker 3: threat than what you have on the roster right now.
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  Speaker 5: He blocks.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was 6'5. People say, well, you
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  Speaker 3: already have Troutman. Goddard can move. Troutman's somebody that doesn't have.
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  Speaker 5: A motor. And I don't mean that like effort. I
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  Speaker 5: mean like he's just not fast.
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  Speaker 6: Sort of iceberg speed?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Goddard can move a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And if they're in the market for a tight end,
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  Speaker 3: we'll just play again what Schefter said to us yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: The Broncos are going to be active in making phone calls.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it's more likely.
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  Speaker 5: That those calls would result in a tight end or
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  Speaker 5: a running back?
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  Speaker 4: Tight end right now. But I think it could be
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  Speaker 4: a safety too.
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  Speaker 3: So the fact that he threw a safety out of nowhere,
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  Speaker 3: maybe that means that you're going to get a backup
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  Speaker 3: safety that also is attached somewhere along the line today.
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  Speaker 5: I just think that the easiest thing that could help
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  Speaker 5: this team is a back.
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  Speaker 3: And the reports coming from earlier is that Jonathan Taylor,
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  Speaker 3: the Colts have received a whole bunch of offers, but
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  Speaker 3: they have turned them all down. The asking price is
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  Speaker 3: too high. Well, is that going to apply also five
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  Speaker 3: hours from now? Or is this a big game of chicken?
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  Speaker 3: And they're waiting to see if somebody ups the ante.
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  Speaker 7: There's only one person that knows. And her name is
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  Speaker 7: Carly Ursa something or other.
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  Speaker 5: Gordon.
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  Speaker 2: Gordon.
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  Speaker 4: Carly Ursa.
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  Speaker 6: Why do you keep switching in and out of that robe?
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  Speaker 4: Because I get a little bit chilly. It's warm. Feels good.
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  Speaker 7: You got me into robes last week. You were in
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  Speaker 7: a robe last week. And I thought, you know what?
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  Speaker 7: Maybe I'll start touching the robes, too.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I didn't know you guys stayed in nice hotels.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's crazy?
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  Speaker 3: If I asked you this question, who's in the better spot,
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos or the Vikings? There's like, there's Broncos. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: would say Denver, right?
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  Speaker 6: Hey, but by watching that game last night, did you
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  Speaker 6: get a sense of why the Minnesota Vikings, that defense
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  Speaker 6: is just.
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  Speaker 5: They're unbelievable.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, they swarm. The swarming nature of that defense
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  Speaker 6: is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to point something out to you guys.
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  Speaker 3: You know what that Vikings offense has? Justin Jefferson and
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Addison and TJ Hawkinson and Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason.
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  Speaker 5: Like, they have dudes on that offense.
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  Speaker 4: They do have dudes on that offense.
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  Speaker 5: But they have dunces at quarterback. And that seems to
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  Speaker 5: be the only thing that matters.
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  Speaker 7: You know what? That is an excellent point, Kaner. Vic,
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  Speaker 7: we were too young to ever be in the era
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  Speaker 7: of the dunce cap. But something about sticking a quarterback
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  Speaker 7: in the corner of the room with a dunce cap on,
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  Speaker 7: that really appeals to me.
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  Speaker 5: A dunce cap is taller than Kyler.
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  Speaker 4: I like that idea. I think public.
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  Speaker 6: Shaming should make a comeback. I'm dead serious.
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  Speaker 4: Like the stocks, and you throw tomatoes at them?
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  Speaker 5: Or is it Game of Thrones?
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  Speaker 4: Carson Wentz is in the stocks, and you're throwing tomatoes.
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  Speaker 5: Or is it Game of Thrones?
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  Speaker 3: Do you force the Vikings quarterbacks to walk nude through
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  Speaker 3: the street, and people can throw things at them, and
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  Speaker 3: they say shame?
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  Speaker 6: Shame.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 7: Ned Stark got his head whacked off, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: There's probably a happy medium in there somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like how you use that word in front
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  Speaker 3: of off. You do that way too often.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Anyway... listen.
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  Speaker 5: Wax on.
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  Speaker 7: If they don't get a quarterback today, they're stupid. The
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  Speaker 7: funny part is McCarthy's actually filling in pretty decently for
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  Speaker 7: the New York Giants. I'm not sure he's a long-term
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  Speaker 7: answer for anybody. But if they don't get a quarterback,
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  Speaker 7: they are doing such a disservice to To their defense.
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  Speaker 4: Even if they do.
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  Speaker 7: You saw it last night. Their defense is killer. It
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  Speaker 7: really is awesome.
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  Speaker 3: So, there's so many different things about this deadline that's
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  Speaker 3: coming up, too, that I'm so interested in this for
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  Speaker 3: this reason. Can you guys give me your best attempt
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  Speaker 3: to tell me what the hell are the Chargers doing?
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  Speaker 5: What are they doing?
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  Speaker 4: They're losing. They stink. They're awful.
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  Speaker 3: Schefter laid this out yesterday. Khalil Mack's on an expiring contract.
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  Speaker 3: He's a veteran edge rusher.
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  Speaker 5: You're over. Why the hell would you not trade him?
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  Speaker 6: You know what the Chargers are as a franchise? They
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  Speaker 6: are the term that Coach Bednar uses. They are the
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  Speaker 6: ultimate passengers. Do you ever have those friends in the
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  Speaker 6: group that they never pay for anything?
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  Speaker 5: They're always with you. They always go to, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the bars.
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  Speaker 6: And whatnot, but he's wearing a robe. Yeah, they're cheap.
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  Speaker 6: That's a bunch of crap, and you know it. They
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  Speaker 6: never add anything of substance, revenue. I mean, they never
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  Speaker 6: help out. They're just there. They're nice. That's what the
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  Speaker 6: Chargers are.
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  Speaker 5: Think about the Chargers for a second. That's why Mosher
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  Speaker 5: loves the Chargers so much.
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  Speaker 6: They don't even have their own stadium.
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  Speaker 4: Jesus God Almighty.
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  Speaker 6: They have to lease. You're so right, Brett, the more
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  Speaker 6: I think about it. They were kicked out of their
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  Speaker 6: own city. Kicked out. Goodbye. They don't even have a stadium.
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  Speaker 6: They have to lease a stadium. They rent a stadium
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  Speaker 6: that belongs to another team, and now they suck. But
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  Speaker 6: they're making so much money because the NFL prints money.
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  Speaker 6: They're not even complaining about it.
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  Speaker 5: That's what the Chargers are.
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  Speaker 6: That's what they've always been. What are they? They're that team.
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  Speaker 6: The Chargers are that friend that mooches off everybody else,
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  Speaker 6: but you tolerate them. That's what they are.
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  Speaker 3: Texture says, maybe Sean should learn how to use the
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  Speaker 3: talent he has before he adds money. new shiny toys
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  Speaker 3: that he won't know how to utilize. I don't like,
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  Speaker 3: I see this happen a lot.
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  Speaker 6: When is more talent bad? I don't understand the people
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  Speaker 6: that say that when, when is adding more talent to
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  Speaker 6: bad move?
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  Speaker 3: What exactly is he not utilizing with his talent? They
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  Speaker 3: ran the ball 17 times with Jonah Coleman in this
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  Speaker 3: last game. He went for three and a half a carry. Like,
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  Speaker 3: they bring in Jalen Waddell. Bo Nix has to push
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  Speaker 3: the ball downfield.
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  Speaker 5: He started to do it. Recently, he started to.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, dude, when he opened up with two long passes
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  Speaker 7: to start that game, I thought to myself, full-on Vic
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  Speaker 7: Lombardi mode right now.
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  Speaker 4: Full-on. Hey, let's go up top. Now, they weren't successful
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  Speaker 4: doing it, but they tried.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny to me.
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  Speaker 3: It's like people talk about Sean Payton as if he's
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  Speaker 3: an idiot when it comes to calling offense. Mike, there's
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  Speaker 3: been a lot of success that's mixed in with.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever your opinion of his offensive play calling is.
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  Speaker 3: And you can tell me, well, God, Brett, he had
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  Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer at quarterback for all those years.
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  Speaker 5: What about all the.
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  Speaker 3: Wins that he got with Jameis Winston and Teddy Bridgewater
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  Speaker 3: and Taysom Hill and all those different guys?
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  Speaker 5: What about that?
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  Speaker 4: Look, if I'm not worth a hoot?
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  Speaker 5: I think he's worth a hoot.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's worth a hoot, too.
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  Speaker 5: I'd give him a hoot.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, listen to us complain about a 7-2 football
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  Speaker 7: team going on their bye.
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  Speaker 4: Listen to us.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And just to get this out of the way, because
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  Speaker 3: I knew this was coming too. Three and a half
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  Speaker 3: yards per carry is a first down. Three and a
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  Speaker 3: half yards per carry is ass.
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  Speaker 5: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: It's terrible.
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  Speaker 3: There's not a good running back in the league that
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  Speaker 3: averages three and a half yards a carry.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't happen. Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Because here's what doesn't happen. It's not three and a
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  Speaker 3: half every time you carry the football. It's negative one
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  Speaker 3: and then four and then two and then one and
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  Speaker 3: then five.
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  Speaker 5: That's how it goes.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, when we come back, I'm reading this article from
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  Speaker 6: Bennett Durando. Obviously, the Nuggets lost last night. Travel problems
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: are no travel problems. But some of the details he
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  Speaker 6: has about them trying to leave Mexico City and the
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  Speaker 6: issues they.
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  Speaker 5: Faced, oh, my God, is all I can say. I
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  Speaker 5: can't wait to read this stuff to you.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll get there in just a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 5: Go to WilhiteWins.com. That's WilhiteWins.com. Who is this for?
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  Speaker 8: Leaving on a jet plane? This is what Vic was
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  Speaker 8: going to talk about. The Nuggets tried to leave on
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  Speaker 8: a jet plane, and they couldn't.
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  Speaker 5: I understand why you're playing it.
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  Speaker 6: Who is it for?
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying the song.
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  Speaker 3: When this song was made, who is the person that
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  Speaker 3: this song was made for?
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  Speaker 5: What was the mood? What was the situation this song
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  Speaker 5: was made for?
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  Speaker 4: It's so depressing.
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  Speaker 6: What?
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  Speaker 5: What did you say, Miles?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 5: What did you say? Your mic was off.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't hear you.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: What did you say?
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  Speaker 7: I said that he wrote it for his girl. He's leaving,
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  Speaker 7: so I'll bring you back a wedding ring. He's got
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  Speaker 7: to go on tour.
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  Speaker 5: He's leaving. You're not answering the question that I'm asking.
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  Speaker 3: Who is the person that is playing this song, and
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  Speaker 3: when are they playing it?
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  Speaker 5: And where are they playing it?
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: Whatever it is, turn it off, because I can't hear
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: this crap.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Well, this is John Denver, and it's one of his
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: biggest hits.
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: It sounds terrible.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: In the early 70s.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: You aren't answering my question.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Then ask it correctly. I don't know what the.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: All right, I'm going to say this again.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Who was that song made for, and when and where
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: would they be listening.
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: To that song?
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Metallica, I get it. There's some guys who like metal.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Maybe you play it in the weight room.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: Maybe you just.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: That I get.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Who and where is that song made for?
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like what person is running around?
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: 1972 housewives. What do you want me to tell you?
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Jackass? What?
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: Why are you doing that to me?
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: Well, let me tell you. I played the record of
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: the Edmund Fitzgerald earlier on this program. I'll tell you
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: who that was made for. People who have big hearts
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: and a lot of love.
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: In consecutive segments, Nelly and Mosier have ruined the mood
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: of the day. In consecutive segments.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's crazy. You guys are both, like, you
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: know what you are?
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: You guys are the same person. This is what's happening
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: on the show. They're the same. They're these music geeks.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, except I don't look like a lumber sexual. What?
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Is that a lumberjack?
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: He self-identifies as a lumberjack with his beard and his
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: stupid mustache.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, also, yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: Can you carry an axe? Uh, yeah, if it's the
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: same weight as a flute, I'm pretty good at carrying flutes.
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: How light is an axe? Is it flute weight? And also,
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: here's a fact checker for you. Vic is offended by
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: me playing John Denver on the Denver Airwaves, so we
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: can write that down now.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: Just so we're all clear.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Just because his last name is Denver, so now we know.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: That song right there just put me in a depressed mood.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know what that was. That was one of
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: the worst things I've heard.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Well, you want to be more depressed? Ironically, he died
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: in a plane crash.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Why was that information necessary? Just imagine this. I want
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: you to imagine something.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: We're going to get depressed. We might as well go
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: full-on depression.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Cue that back up. Open up a bottle of scotch
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: and call it a day. Cue that back up. I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: going to take you through a scenario. You guys tell
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: me what would happen. Hey, Vic, you had so much
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: fun at Notre Dame this last weekend. We're going to
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: go to another Notre Dame game this weekend.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: It's just us.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: Us.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: All the boys here, right?
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: Me, you, Nelly, Moj. And this is blasting in the car.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Guess what?
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I'm driving. All right, boys, you ready? Let's head to
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: South Bend. Let's kick on some music, some tunes.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: You guys ready?
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's party.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: All right. Oh, yes. Yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, guys.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Now Hastings wants a piece.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Aren't you ready for our road trip now?
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I see what you're getting at. I mean, believe me.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: But there are worse tunes out there than a road trip.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: Everybody Hurts by R.E.M. completely sucks. It's like the worst
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: of all time. Anything by the Goo Goo Dolls would
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: bring me down. I'd just open the door at 80
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: and jump out. Okay, so there are other things that
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: could be worse, perhaps.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Here's Nikola Jokic talking about the travel issues.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I know that you don't want to make an excuse
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: based on it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: No, it's not an excuse. I'm not doing a little bit.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: We were ready.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: No excuses.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: We were ready.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Just didn't play well last night. Give us the details
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: from Bennett Durando's article here, Vic.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, listen, a lot was made of the Nuggets
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: trying to get out of Mexico City. It wasn't easy,
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: but I had no idea that it was this hard.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: And I believe that the Nuggets tactics, when they couldn't
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: get out, when they had to leave the next day,
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: and then they put all their starters on the injury list,
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: that was a shot. That was a shot at the bow.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: That was a message to the NBA. They were always
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: going to play. But they wanted the NBA to know
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: that they were upset with the travel situation. And they
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: have every right to be after I read this. Bennett Durando.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: Let me tell you how it works, by the way.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: And I'm sure it works the same way in the
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: NHL most. So there's a service that provides planes for
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: the league. Every team has access to these planes, these
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: charter planes.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: And the service designates which plane they take and this
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: and that. And they have people on those planes that
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: are in charge. The Nuggets were told to go to
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: the airport, and they were going to get on the
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: same plane that took them to Mexico City. That same
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: plane was waiting for them. For some unknown reason, the
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Indiana Pacers got to the airport first and were mistakenly
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: given the Nuggets plane. They were allowed to board the
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Nuggets plane. The Nuggets were stuck with the Pacers plane,
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: which was broken. It wasn't working. Something was mechanically wrong
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: with the plane. So they get to the airport. They're
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: sitting on the plane that's not theirs. It's the other ones.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: And they're livid. understandably so, and they're there for eight
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: hours on a plane, just sitting there, waiting for it
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: to work. And every time they're told it's going to work,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: it doesn't. They couldn't even shut the door, something's wrong
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: with the door. So they have to go back to
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: their hotel, they disembark, and they stay from 5 to noon,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: 5 a.m. to noon at their hotel. So their sleep schedule,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: they never got real sleep. Go back to the airport
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: and take the other plane. They are ticked off. At
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: which point, They're asking each other, do we really want
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: to play in this Houston game with this? And I'm
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: glad that the players, because the players were asked, I'm
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: glad the players manned up and basically said, of course
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: we're going to play. Because, yes, you want to send
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: a message to the league that the league just screwed us.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Well, it should have happened. It should have never happened.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: They should have a backup plane.
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: Even if it's in the States, it can fly to
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: Mexico City and pick them up and take them to Houston.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: It was a bad plan.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: You recall, guys, when we went to Finland for the
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: NHL Global Series back in 2022, we all got on
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: the plane after the game that night and sat there
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: and kind of drank wine and some beers and whatnot.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: For four hours because our plane was broken. Okay?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: And.
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: And finally, the league got another charter plane. They got
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: another plane, and we had to unload the entire plane
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: and then load on to a new plane because they
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: kept trying to fix ours. But the league had a
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: backup plan. They just had to get the plane to
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: New York City. And do you recall this, too? Remember
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: Pavel Frantzos, the backup goalie, obviously, right? He fell asleep
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: on the first plane, and we all got off that plane,
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: and he woke up alone in the cabin.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: He thought we were already there. He thought we were
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: in Finland. And everybody got off the plane.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: And so, finally, when he comes on to the new plane,
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: once they woke him up and everybody was already gone
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: and loaded on the new plane, he got a big
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: standing ovation from everybody.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: It was kind of funny.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: Unlike what the hell happened to the Denver Nuggets when
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: they had to play right away.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: It stinks. Well, the plane travel issues doesn't fly. Excuse
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: the pun.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Because the two best players played. Like the two best players.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: And they did their thing. Nikoli Okic almost had a triple-double.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: He had 26-16. Jamal Murray had 38 points. Tried to
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: rescue him by himself. And nobody else came along for
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: the ride. Everybody else was still in Mexico City. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: that's just not a recipe for success. And that's why
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: you cannot look at me and say, well, travel problems
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: are the reason why they didn't play well. Because the
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: two best players played well.
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Vic, listen, I think it's easier sometimes to go through
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: life and try to be oblivious. I think people get
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: happy that way. But reality has to come into play
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: at some point. So what I'm looking at right now
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: with the Denver Nuggets is they're going to have to be, again,
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: if guys aren't what they used to be and so on,
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: is there going to have to be some sort of
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: a master plan where we're going to have to tear
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: this thing down to the studs with the big fella
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: in the middle and then rebuild it in the image
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: of what he needs around him to try to get
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: one or two more before he's done.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: Maybe this is why he didn't sign right away. Maybe
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: this is his message to, let's see what happens. Let's
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: see what you guys do. Well, he's not going anywhere.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: He already said as soon as they put the contract
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: in front of him, he's going to sign. So he's
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: not going anywhere.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what he says. But maybe the decision to
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: wait is his message, is what I'm saying.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Brett raised a good point earlier on in the program,
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: and that is this. When the Nuggets lose, they get out-rebounded.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: They get out-hustled on the boards.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: But they always get out-rebounded. Listen to me, Moshe. Before
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: you go down this narrative.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: But like 50s to 30s? I mean, that's what we're
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: looking at. I have the.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: Facts to prove it. Over the last few years, listen
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: to me. There are stats to prove this. It's not
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: just that they're getting out-rebounded. Because historically, they do get out-rebounded.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: They just do. They don't have the same amount of
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: possessions as other teams. Dan Hyatt gave me the numbers.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: So over the years, all right? Last three seasons, the
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Denver Nuggets have lost the possession game. Bottom eight in possessions,
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: which is a direct reflection of rebounds at times. They
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: don't have as many possessions. However, they make up for
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: it because they're the most efficient shooting team in the NBA.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: They were two years ago.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: They were last year.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: But not this year. That's the difference. You can get
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: fewer possessions, which is what they're amounting to. They're just
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: not scoring the ball like they have in years past.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: The efficiency with which this team has played is starting
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: to wane a bit. That's a concern.
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: And so what you're saying basically then is they've been
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: sort of walking this tightrope for a while because they've
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: been so efficient. But if that efficiency dips, even in
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: the slightest, you end up five and four and in
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: a playoff spot. I mean, think about it. Because that's
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: where they are. They're 10th in the West right now, dude.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: And here's what you can't do. By Christmas, you can't
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: afford to let go. Of the top. You can't afford
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: to be stuck in that mud. You're going to have
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: to keep pace with these guys or you're screwed.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: Last year, they were the most accurate three-point shooting team
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: in the league, despite the fact they didn't take many threes.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: This year, they're not attempting threes. They're third to last
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: in attempts. They're not even attempting them. And outside of
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Jamal Murray, they're not making them. That's number one. Number two,
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: in years past, when the offense needed to be rescued,
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: when they needed a bucket, just give it to Joker
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: and he'll throw one up there and it'll hit the
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: rim three different times and pop in. Well, his numbers
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: accuracy wise are down, right? He's not shooting with the
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: same efficiency.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: So what's, what's happening is it's making the rebounding disparity
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: even more glaring as it was last night, because if
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: you don't score, God, they had an opportunity. I don't
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: know if you guys, how closely you watched last night, but,
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: They were wheeling their way back into the game. They
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: tied it at 60 apiece. Then they went down by nine.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: And here they are.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: They're coming back again. And they had like a fast.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Break where three different guys missed layups. And you're like, oh,
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: my God. They're just not shooting with efficiency.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Understanding all your points and your numbers there, Vic. I
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: just looked it up. There's one game. Every win they've
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: had this year, they've out-rebounded their opponent with the exception
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: of Phoenix, in which they got out-rebounded 42-40.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Negligible.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: But I do think it's a big.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: When you see games really getting away from them, that's
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: the reason why.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: Well, they're 5-4, right?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: All four losses have come to winning teams. It's also
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: a product of who you play. Sure. And the team
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: they're playing tomorrow night is another winning team. They've got
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: a winning record.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: You're also supposed to be a winning team, Brian.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: OK, well, they are technically still there five and four understood.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: But you see what I'm saying?
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: You're supposed to be one of those teams that's in
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: that same mix where they look at you and they
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: say the same damn thing. Listen, I don't know what's
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: going on with H.E. I don't I don't think he's hurt.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think that's the problem. That's the issue.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: He just doesn't look the same, man. He's not doing
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: the same things. And he's been the last two games
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: have been really sort of abysmal. Maybe maybe doesn't feel
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: good about his game. So he's not shooting as much
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: or doing as much because he He doesn't think he can.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: Maybe it's a confidence problem. I really have no idea,
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: but it concerns me because I love that guy.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: It concerns me, too.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: And Bennett Durando has a quote from AG last night.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: He was asked about if he has any physical limitations
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: because he shot one for six last night. He had
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: three turnovers costly. He said, quote, physically, I feel good.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: I'm less worried about my body out there now and
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: more worried about the win. So I think that'll go
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: a long way. I did a lot of recovery this offseason.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: A lot of lifting, a lot of running, so I
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: can just be there come May or June. Maybe he's
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: just in preservation mode when he doesn't have to be.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: I mean, Vic, that's a mental thing. And again, like J.K.,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: you know, he wanted to come in and he wanted to.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: But you know Phil.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: Well, watching AJ. You know Phil. You guys have watched
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: him long enough. He's not exploding like he usually does.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: No, he's not. He's not.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: And you know what, Vic? He's also a guy who
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: cares a lot. If he didn't care, maybe we wouldn't
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: even be seeing this, but he does care. And he
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: cares about his team, and he cares about his role
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: on the team, and he cares about what he means
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: to this club. I mean, he knows how important he is.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: And so that's a good thing. He does care. It's
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: just that he doesn't look like himself.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I'm just concerned that this is less to do with
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: a physical thing and more to do with maybe this
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: is just where his game is thing.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: He's too important to your success. We all know it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: When he's out in the playoffs due to an injury
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: the last couple of years, you kind of know what
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: result is coming. If his game is just taking a
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: step back overall, you're in some trouble.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: All right, so it's still early, and I'm not going
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: to keep saying that. It's still early. When is it
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: not early? What if it doesn't come back?
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: What do you do? I don't know, Vic.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: Now you're getting into territory where it goes beyond concern
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: for me and it goes to terrifying.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know what you do.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: If that's the case, then there's no way you move
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: off the contract. And you're kind of stuck. Who would
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: trade for it?
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: Right, and he's still got, after this season, he signed
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: at 24. So that's 24, 25, 25, 26, 27, 28.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: We're looking at 28 before you're out from underneath that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Is that it?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Because I'll tell you this.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Remember when people wanted to, and there's a lot of
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: chatter here in the offseason.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of chatter. Good God.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: A lot of chatter on this show and from a
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: lot of Nuggets fans. Time to move off Jamal's contract.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Is anybody on this team playing better basketball than Jamal
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Murray right now?
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: Nope.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: No, not at all.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: So keep answering these questions. I'm going to keep asking them.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: Is anybody playing with more energy than Jamal Murray right now?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Nope. Nope.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: Has anybody on this team improved defensively more than Jamal
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Murray right now?
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Nope, not at all.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Jamal Murray is the best player on this team right now.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: He's playing like it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: That is true. That is correct.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: No disrespect, Jamal.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: You are correct.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: That can't be the case.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Joker needs to be the best player on this team.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Well, Joker still is the best player, but Jamal's had
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: the best games. I mean, right now, Jamal Murray... Joker's
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: the best player. Jamal's had the best games.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Understood.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying through nine games this year, it isn't
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: even a debate who the best player on this team
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: has been.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: It's been Jamal. Like, he's been.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: He's been the most consistent player, for sure.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I think it's okay just to say that Joker has
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: not looked great so far this year. For his standard
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: of what we expect, he hasn't looked that way.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. Joker hasn't been bad.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: But we, Ed Weezy 7780 writes in, they never talk
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: about how bad CB is, LOL. He's not good right now, shooting-wise.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: He's not been good. He had that 30-point game, where
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: was that, in Phoenix, where he was outstanding. But last night,
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: it's not just CB. It's the other three starters.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: All right? He was bad last night. He was 2
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: for 7 shooting, 0 for 4 from 3. He was bad.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: So was A.G. Cam was okay. Cam had 8 points.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: But when your other three starters combine for 15, you're
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: going to lose every single time.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: You didn't have anybody in double-digit scoring outside of Joker
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: and Jamal.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Now, take that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: The Mexico City game, you had 8 guys in double digits.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: 8 of them. That's how it needs to look. That's
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: what you have to do.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Why is it, because David Allen said it again last night,
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: our other guys need to shoot the ball. They're overpassing.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: Somebody help me. Why are they over? Like, if you
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: have the shot, why aren't you taking it?
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I have no idea.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Mosier, in your American flag shirt, why?
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: Vic, it's got to be a lack of confidence. I don't,
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: it's got to be where they just, they don't feel like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: the only chance for us to win is if these
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: two guys get off.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Well, they need help, okay? I agree.
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: I don't know why they're not doing it, Vic. It's
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: because I think they don't feel confident about their game
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: right now.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Tonight, the Avs are north of the border.
• 33:14
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• 33:25
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• 33:28
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• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Moshe Lombardi and Kane. It's all powered by Mr.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Lombardi. Why don't you read the first part of that?
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: All right, sure.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: The Avs are on their Canadian road trip, so don't
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: be surprised if Jared Bednar starts ending every sentence with a.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Who wrote that?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Who wrote that?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: It's all presented by Mr. Reuter, proudly rooting for Colorado
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: students and athletes.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I want the Kelsey brothers dramatically over laugh at one
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: of Dion's jokes. Do we still have that? Never thought
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: anything was that funny in my entire life. By the way,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: do you have a TV on in there, Mosher?
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: What am I hearing?
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, that was Vic's phone?
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Really? Yes, it was.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: I'm literally sitting here with my teeth in my mouth
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: in my hotel room staring out the window at wind.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Did you just forget what was happening there?
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Get off our show!
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Catching up on some Netflix, are you? Hey, somebody do something.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Make a move in the NFL.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: We're like four hours away from this deadline being done.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I need something to happen.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I need it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Like I need oxygen. I need the.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Broncos to give me a Dallas Goddard. Give me somebody
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: in the backfield.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Give me Jonathan Taylor. Make me a happy man.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: What if they do nothing?
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Then I'll be pissed. I am. I will be upset.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: I don't understand the reason why you wouldn't.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: You have a clear thing that even though it is improving,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: the offense is a problem.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Right? We see it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: We know it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: We've seen it all year. Why not do something to help?
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Please, help.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: Well, Minnesota is desperately desiring a quarterback. I don't know
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: how many quarterbacks for trade are left. But if the
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: Broncos need more to trade, right? The trade arsenal, they
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: need picks. Why not get rid of one of their
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: quarterbacks if Minnesota is so desperate for a pick, even
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: if it's just a seventh rounder? and just sort of
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: start stockpiling those assets to make that move. Maybe that's
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: what they're doing.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Flip it.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I don't care what it takes. I think you just
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: got to do something. And again, the big dream here
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: is a Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. If that's too
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: rich for your blood, then fine. Then find somebody else.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Then get somebody else. There are guys that are going
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: to be available. And I just don't think now is
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the time to be stingy.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Buyer's market. You're a buyer.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: Find it. We've learned about sports, pro sports, especially it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: You live in the now more than ever.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: There's no like this notion.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: You just gotta, you gotta keep developing for that day.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: What day?
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Remember when the Eagles were in a Superbowl day?
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: It was like yesterday.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: The Broncos were an injured quarterback away from the Superbowl
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: last year. What day? The day is now. The time
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: is now. The era is now. The window is open now.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: What day?
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I need it now.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: So, hopefully before 2 o'clock, we'll get some of that
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: news again. We'll have all the updates with all the
• 36:46
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• 36:51
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  Speaker 7: The Maple Leafs have lost three games in a row, boys,
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  Speaker 7: to the Mammoth, to Montreal, and to the New Jersey Devils,
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  Speaker 7: where they were shut out on the home ice. So
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: they're going to be kind of PO'd coming into tonight,
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: but let me tell you something. Their defensive core right
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: now is kind of banged up, and Morgan Riley is out.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Roslevic is out.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: They've got Kirill Marchenko, whom they acquired from Columbus, is out.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: If you're the Colorado Avalanche tonight, you need to attack
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: that D, Corey. Remember what happened at the start of
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: the season in Denver when the Leafs won 6-3? Austin
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: Matthews had two goals. William Nylander had two goals.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: By the way, don't let those guys get off on you.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: Attack their D. They take a lot of penalties, do
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: the Maple Leafs. You're going to get opportunities on the
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• 38:42
  Speaker 3: So we'll continue to monitor these updates from Adam Schefter
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: as we are looking to see if the Broncos are
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: going to make a move of some sort. Just from
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: where we stand right now, do you guys think that
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: they're going to make a move? Something internally is just
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: telling me I'm going to be disappointed by the end
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: of this.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they do.
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: I think they're going to do something, Brett, because I think, again,
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: I don't know what Buffalo is going to do, but
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: they're a 7-1 football team, and they put 23 on
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: a very tough Vikings defense last night. But it's the Jags,
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: and I know you've already beaten them one time, but
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: they're going to be a tough out. They've solidified their
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: defensive line. They've solidified their secondary. They're doing some stuff,
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: and I think that, what do you want to call it,
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: keep up with the Joneses or whatever? I think they
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: want to do something just to solidify themselves a little bit,
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: just a little bit.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: I think they'll make a move. that's on the radar
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: like a tight end and then then under the radar
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: move to help with depth I think they'll make two
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: moves before this deadline what do you guys.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Think um as of right now the Broncos stand as
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: far as betting odds to win the Super Bowl.
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: I will bet that they are probably the sixth.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Seventh, seventh best team to win the Super Bowl right now.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Vic, what do you think?
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably, I say they're top ten, but I
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: don't think they're top three or five.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: They're ninth.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: The team's ahead of them.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: Cincinnati.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: The Rams. Still there. The Seahawks.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Chiefs, Bears, Jags, Bills, Niners. Would you say in just
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: the AFC, the Bills, the Jags, the Chiefs, and the
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Bengals should be ahead of the Denver Broncos?
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: I don't think they should, but it doesn't feel like
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: they should because I think the Broncos are a good
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: football team. I mean, I think that they should be
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: there ahead of the Bengals. I mean, Joe Burrow, by
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: the way, have you seen this? He's now moved ahead
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: of Josh Allen. as the MVP leader.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Well, no kidding.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Well, I've seen what that guy's done.
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, but I mean, I'm just saying that everybody
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: right now is, is, is the Bengals still don't have
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: a great defense or am I wrong about that?
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, there there's where the Steelers they're six and
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: two and they're nowhere to be found.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: No, the Cincinnati one, not this last weekend, but the
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: weekend before, remember they won 43 to 36 in overtime
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: against the Titans, a Titans team that has, Their quarterback,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Kim Ward, had never thrown for 300 yards in a
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: game before that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: But you know what makes it not matter? 462 passing
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: yards from Joe Burrow.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Five touches, yeah. Right. Five touches, right. I got you.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: That seems to matter a little bit. I just, I
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: don't know. It's not so much in arms race.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: It's just a recognition for the Broncos of what are
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: your deficiencies and do you have the ability to help
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: in those categories?
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: And I think they can't.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: Even the Bengals made a deal today. They got an
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: edge rusher out of Philadelphia. So we'll see. I guess
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: we'll see.
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: How do you pronounce his name again?
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I think it's Epiketty.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Epiketty. God, you're good at doing names.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Hey, man, a lot of Euros come over here to
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: play hockey. Got to get with it.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're really good at seeing the name. When
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: I see it, I freeze.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, which way do you go with it?
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: What do you call them? Something like that, yeah. Mosier,
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: the Avs, as they are taking on the Leafs tonight,
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: earlier game here in Denver, 5 o'clock. Big question is,
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: do you.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Think the Avs have turned a corner from.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: You know, Bednar talking about he has to be more,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I forget the word he used, but we'll just call
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: it judicious in ice time with some guys after that
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: game against Columbus. They played a better game against Nashville,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: still lost, and then came out and had that great
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: game against Detroit. Do you think they've turned the corner
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: on the specifically road game woes in games that lead
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to big time issues like four, five, six goal losses?
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: I sure as shoot hope they are. I sure as
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: shoot hope they've changed the corner. They're different now. Listen,
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: the Maple Leafs, as we've seen already this year, and
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: they've lost three in a row because Bob has been
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: kind of a sieve, to be honest with you. But, man,
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: they've got elite dudes, and if you give them this much,
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: they're going to burn you in Matthews and Nylander, and
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: they've got more than that. Now they've got the rookie McKenna, who's,
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: you know, overall number one pick, and he has his
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: growing pains and whatnot. But if you don't come out
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: ready to go tonight, and by the way, for all
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: intents and purposes– They should come out ready to go.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: You're in Toronto. This is the biggest market.
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: All eyeballs are going to be on this game across
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: the country of Canada. Everybody's going to be watching. You
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: should be pumped. McKinnon always plays well here. You've got
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: to come out right away good tonight. You can't wait
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: into this game. You're going to get killed.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: What's up with Cale?
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's fine. I think he's going to
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: be okay.
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: They brought– they called up Gagne just to– just I
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: think for an insurance purpose from the Eagles. But I
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: think it's just so you have another D-man on the
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: road with you on this trip. I think Cale's going
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: to be just fine.
• 44:05
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• 44:24
  Speaker 8: Let's play Who Wore It Better? Our first contestant up
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: on the red carpet today.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: That's your anger? My anger has been.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: It's another step in it! It's a big deal!
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: But not to be outdone by.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: These are guys who committed fraud.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: How would I be able.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Look, they conned me.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: So I ask you, ladies and gentlemen, who wore it better?
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: It's another step in it. It's a big deal. How
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: would I be able.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Look, they conned me.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: I don't know, Kaner. You're a little more vociferous in
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: your high-pitched squeal.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: I still give respect to the OG.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: Brett, why were you so emotional today?
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I'm an emotional guy. What can I say?
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: No, you're not. Big deal. You're like a gray rock.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I get fired up. Can I get fired up?
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: You'd be happy to know that I had my robe today.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: It was awesome.
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: I've already steamed my pants. My pants have been steamed
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: during a commercial break. I'm in good shape right now.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: Big deal. Useless information.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: Dude, I've been on many road trips. Not once have
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: I steamed my pants.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Well, your pants maybe don't get wrinkly then.
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: Oh, really?
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: I've lived many years on this earth. Not once have
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: I steamed any pants.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: Steaming pants?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: The hell?
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: The steam comes from the dryer. The dryer steams them.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: You know why you have to steam your pants? Because
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: I know how you probably pack them. You just jumble
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: them up and throw them in the suitcase. That's your
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: packing style.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I guarantee that's what he does.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: I guarantee it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down. Keep
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: it tuned.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Right here all day for any updates as that 2
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: o'clock deadline approaches. We will talk to you guys tomorrow.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Have a wonderful day.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Love you. See you.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: It's another step in it. It's a big deal.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: How would I be able? Look, they conned me.