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Children tortured & killed after COVID · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: the ms that truly cannot be heard, that do not
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Speaker 1: have a voice. I'm talking about child abuse victims during coronavirus,
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Speaker 1: a lockdown and quarantine. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. I
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is crime stories. These cases I am
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Speaker 1: bringing to you. I want you to brace yourself are
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Speaker 1: some of the worst I have heard of at a
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Speaker 1: time so difficult for all of our country, Our children
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Speaker 1: are suffering. Take a listen to WCTV CBS eleven needs
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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. Police were called to Lear's home Sunday night
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Speaker 1: after getting a tip that a child was being kept
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Speaker 1: in the shed behind her house. They say she initially
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Speaker 1: claimed her six year old grandson was with his mother,
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Speaker 1: but when police ordered her to open the shed, they
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Speaker 1: found him inside with his hands tied behind his back.
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Speaker 1: According to our source, the grandmother claimed it was the
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Speaker 1: first time she left him in the shed. Her boyfriend
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Speaker 1: said it had been happening for at least two weeks.
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Speaker 1: The boy told investigator he's been made to sleep in
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Speaker 1: the shed for as long as school has been out.
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Speaker 1: A six year old boy found a lot in a
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Speaker 1: shed with his hands tied behind him, and the grandmother's
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Speaker 1: excuse is it's the first time that happened. Other neighbors
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Speaker 1: and witnesses say, oh, no, no, no, this is not
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Speaker 1: the first time this has happened. Take a listen now
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Speaker 1: to our friends. Andrea LUCIABCTVCBS. Shock outraged just some of
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Speaker 1: the community reaction after a six year old boy was
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Speaker 1: rescued from a padlocked shed in Dallas over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: Today we're learning more. Kiddo Sunday night heard the voice
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Speaker 1: of his landlord's six year old grandson. He traced it
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Speaker 1: to this shed behind his trailer. He's the one who
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Speaker 1: made the call to Child Protective Services. He collected evidence too. No,
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Speaker 1: this is the conversation he recorded with the boy still
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Speaker 1: locked in the shed. Dallas police soon arrived. They say
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Speaker 1: they found the boy standing in the pitch dark shed
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Speaker 1: with rats and insects, his hands tied behind his back
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Speaker 1: with shoelaces. They arrested the boy's grandmother, esme Al Dalida,
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Speaker 1: and her boyfriend Jose balleras their only explanation and accusation.
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Speaker 1: The boy stole food right there, right there in a
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Speaker 1: metropolitan area in Texas. Joining me an all star panel
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Speaker 1: to break it down and put it back together again.
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Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot, judge, trial lawyer, court TV anchor at Ashley
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Speaker 1: Wilcot dot com. Doctor Angela Arnold, renounced psychiatrist, joining us
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Speaker 1: from the Atlanta area. Cloyd Steiger thirty six years, Seattle
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Speaker 1: PD twenty two and homicide and author of Seattle's Forgotten
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Speaker 1: serial Killer. Gary Jane Grant at Kloyd Siger dot com.
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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University and author
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Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. But right now
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Speaker 1: Jacromoline dot com investigative reporter Nicole Parton. Nicole, as a
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Speaker 1: mother of I think four, this has got to outraise
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Speaker 1: you to no end. I mean a little six year
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Speaker 1: old child. You know how small and frail A six
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Speaker 1: year old child is lot in a shed day and night,
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Speaker 1: hands tied behind him for weeks. On end, Nicole, what happened?
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Speaker 1: I do, Nancy, and this really hits home. I have
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Speaker 1: a six year old child, and as I was reading
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Speaker 1: over this story, it hit me to the core. Here
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Speaker 1: is this helpless six year old little boy found inside
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Speaker 1: this nasty rat infested shed, piled high with junk from
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Speaker 1: floor to ceiling. Police found him standing in a blue
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Speaker 1: rubber made container, hands tied behind his back with shoelaces,
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Speaker 1: ligature marks on his hands, so scared, so hungry, a
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Speaker 1: plastic bag beside him that he was supposed to use
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Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom in He had been there
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Speaker 1: for two weeks at least. And then as some sort
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Speaker 1: of defense, they say he tried to steal food. Why
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Speaker 1: does he have to steal food? To start with? Why
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Speaker 1: does he believe he a six year old little child
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Speaker 1: has to steal food? And then the punishment for stealing
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Speaker 1: food is they lock him with a padlock and a
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Speaker 1: shed with his hands tied behind him, ligature marks on
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Speaker 1: his little hands, his where he's trying to get free
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Speaker 1: but he can't. And he's in there with a plastic
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Speaker 1: bag with his hands behind his back to try to
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Speaker 1: t t and poop in a plastic bag with rits
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Speaker 1: insects in the dark. Jessica Morgan, how can I prove
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Speaker 1: this case? Give me everything you would look for? In
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Speaker 1: that shed to help me get felony child abuse on.
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Speaker 1: Not only does grandmother but her boyfriend too. It's I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you what. The evidence is going to begin with
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Speaker 1: this little boy's body, and I hope that the child
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Speaker 1: welfare people have taken really good photographs. This child's going
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Speaker 1: to have multiple injuries that are going to extend back
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Speaker 1: in time. That means that they will be evidence of
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Speaker 1: injuries where they're healing, and then you've got new ones.
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Speaker 1: And told just mentioned just a second ago, not only
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Speaker 1: were his hands bound behind his back with shoelaces, but
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Speaker 1: he also had literature marks on his hands as well.
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Speaker 1: That means that these bindings have been readjusted, probably multiple times.
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Speaker 1: Another major thing here is going to be probably malnourishment.
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Speaker 1: This child is supposed to fit within your mama, You
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Speaker 1: know that children are supposed to fit within a certain
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Speaker 1: range at six years of age. My suspicion is he's
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Speaker 1: going to be greatly diminished. His body will have begun
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Speaker 1: to literally digest itself all the fat stores and everything else.
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Speaker 1: Dehydration is going to kick in, and then on top
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Speaker 1: of that, all the injuries that he may have sustained
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Speaker 1: as a result of being around this vermin. You've got
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Speaker 1: rats in there, and you've got bugs. People don't realize this.
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Speaker 1: I've covered just tons and tons of child abuse cases.
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Speaker 1: Did you know that cockroaches actually bite people? They bite children.
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Speaker 1: This happens repeatedly, over and over and again. So he
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Speaker 1: will probably have insect bites Oliver's body and these will
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Speaker 1: be in various stages of healing. So this is going
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Speaker 1: to go to time. And as you know as prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: time is a big deal because you can show how
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Speaker 1: long this has been going on. You know, I just
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Speaker 1: got Morgan. I'm sure you remember the first I do
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Speaker 1: the first time you ever heard of a blowfly? Yes,
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Speaker 1: and what that is is a state, a stage of
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Speaker 1: a macot. I think and determine depending on the stage
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Speaker 1: of development of that insect. Medical examiners, scientists, etymologists, forensic etymologists, yes,
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Speaker 1: there are forensic etymologists can determine how long a body
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Speaker 1: has been where it is. Agree or disagree, Joe Scott, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I agree. I had heard of it, but I had
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Speaker 1: to examine it and research it in depth. With the
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Speaker 1: death of a little girl named Danielle murdered by her neighbor, Westmoreland,
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Speaker 1: and what you're saying based on the bites on this
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Speaker 1: child's body, and the healing stage of the bites can
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Speaker 1: also tell us how long the child had been there.
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Speaker 1: To doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists joining me from the
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Speaker 1: Atlanta jurisdiction, I'm so glad that all of you are here,
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Speaker 1: but I need to shrink right now, because how could
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Speaker 1: an adult sit down to dinner while they know a
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Speaker 1: six year old child is out in a shed, tied up,
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Speaker 1: unable to eat, having to urinate and defecate on themselves,
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Speaker 1: with roaches and no food and bug bites and rats
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Speaker 1: in the ship. How do you do that? What do
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Speaker 1: you call that? Compartmentalization? Yes? Yes, First of all, to
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Speaker 1: be able to be so mean, you would have to
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Speaker 1: compartmentalize that to some to some extent, wouldn't you guess?
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Speaker 1: That's why? And we're you know, Nancy. The thing that
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Speaker 1: bothers me about this is that it takes so much
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Speaker 1: to be a parent. It takes so much to be
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Speaker 1: a good parent to children, doesn't it. And we all
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Speaker 1: we all know that those of us that are good
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Speaker 1: parents know that it takes. It takes some smarts too,
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Speaker 1: and I hate to say this, but oftentimes we're dealing
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Speaker 1: with people who are not very well educated. No no,
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Speaker 1: la la la la la la la. Okay, I don't believe.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm doing this to doctor Angela Arnold,
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Speaker 1: who I adore and actually learn something from. But you're
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Speaker 1: gonna have to go her mind right now, Jackie. No, no,
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Speaker 1: don't start with me about they may be an educated. One,
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Speaker 1: we don't know that. And number two, you don't have
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Speaker 1: to have a PhD. To know not to lock a
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Speaker 1: six year old in a shed and tie them up
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Speaker 1: with ligatures, leave them out there for at least two
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Speaker 1: weeks straight with rats and cockroaches. Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about a little boy who has been tied
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Speaker 1: up in a shed, starving, defecating, urinating on himself, hands
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Speaker 1: tied behind his back, and according to what we're learning,
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Speaker 1: the child had been out there ever since school was
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Speaker 1: let out because the coronavirus. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friends at WCTVCBS. Doug Dunbar Shock outraged just some of
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Speaker 1: the community reaction after a six year old boy was
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Speaker 1: rescued from a padlocked shed in Dallas over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: Today we're learning more about the nightmarish conditions. According to
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Speaker 1: court documents, the child was often left tied up with
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Speaker 1: shoelaces and left in that darkned shed with no food,
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Speaker 1: no water. He was given a bag, apparently to use
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Speaker 1: as a restroom. The shed is said to also be
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Speaker 1: infested with rats and insects. The boy's grandmother and her
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Speaker 1: boyfriend are now jailed on felony child in dangerment charges. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: local advocates are urging the community to put their outrage
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Speaker 1: to work. Just keep your eye on you know, if
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Speaker 1: you're at the grocery store, or if you're walking your
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Speaker 1: neighborhood and you see something suspicious. There's something that makes
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Speaker 1: your gut just not feel well. Thank a report. Two
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Speaker 1: other children, by the way, we're also removed from that home.
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Speaker 1: They have been placed in CPS custody. Yeah, I want
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Speaker 1: to go straight to cut THREEBCTBCBS eleven if you could
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Speaker 1: play that place. A man and woman are in jail
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Speaker 1: after a six year old boy was found in a
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Speaker 1: shed in Dallas with his hands tied behind his back.
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Speaker 1: Police first with the boy's grandmother at the home on
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Speaker 1: Constant Drive around A six year old was with his mother,
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Speaker 1: but a man living in the back of the property
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Speaker 1: pointed towards the shed where the boy was found. The
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Speaker 1: grandmother said he was only there that one time his punishment,
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Speaker 1: but her boyfriend said for at least two weeks the
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Speaker 1: boy had been punished by being confined to the shed
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Speaker 1: for stealing food. The six year old told officers it
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Speaker 1: all started when he quote got out of school for
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Speaker 1: this Corona thing. I just let it in my head
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Speaker 1: imagining the twins out in a shed like that. Guys,
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Speaker 1: here's another question what I don't get to you, Ashley
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Speaker 1: Wilcott Judge Twallawyer, Court TV anchor at Ashley Wilcott dot
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Speaker 1: com Ashley, why aren't we stacking them with charges such
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Speaker 1: as lying to police? The grandmother lied to police when
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Speaker 1: they first got there, saying lying about where he was,
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Speaker 1: and we saw in cult mom Laurie Vallo a charge
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Speaker 1: against her that's worth about twelve fourteen months behind bars
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Speaker 1: for a line to police about the whereabouts of her children.
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Speaker 1: Why is this one not charged and how long can
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Speaker 1: they face ps? It's just a little pit stop on
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Speaker 1: their way to hell. We all know that. But if
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Speaker 1: you can answer that for me ask you, why aren't
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Speaker 1: we stacking up charges against these two devils. I've got
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Speaker 1: so much to say on this, Nancy. When I'm on
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Speaker 1: the bench, I see cases like this on a regular
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Speaker 1: basis because I'm in juvenile court. What I also see,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is that those who perpetrate these heinous
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Speaker 1: crimes against children are not prosecuted to the full extent.
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Speaker 1: What do I mean by that? They often face charges
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Speaker 1: like child endangerment, but they don't often face all of
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Speaker 1: the other charges that could go with it. Just like
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Speaker 1: you're saying, interfering with a law enforcement investigation by line
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Speaker 1: to law enforcement. I don't know the answer to that.
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Speaker 1: What I do know is it's not enough to prosecute
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Speaker 1: for one charge of child endangerment, for instance, because you
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Speaker 1: may face as you as two years two years, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: and then get out on probation. That's nothing, nothing, because
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Speaker 1: especially now with coronavirus, I don't know that they would
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Speaker 1: ever do jail time at all for what they did
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Speaker 1: to this child. And catch this, Just to top it
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Speaker 1: all off, Cloyd Steiger actually is absolutely correct and everything
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Speaker 1: she just said, catch this though the guy it wasn't
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Speaker 1: the boyfriend grandma's boyfriend that called police. It was a neighbor,
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Speaker 1: one Vocarro. And now guess what, Cloyd, You just heard
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Speaker 1: that reporter saying if you see something, say something. Yeah. Right,
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Speaker 1: people are now struggling to stay ten feet apart. They're
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Speaker 1: covered in face masks. Nobody's gonna say anything. We already
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Speaker 1: know that. But this neighborhood, this neighbor one Vocarro calls
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Speaker 1: police and now he's gonna have to move out. He's
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Speaker 1: getting kicked out of his apartment because these people were
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Speaker 1: his landlords. How's that for justice, Cloyd Steiger, Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: pretty outrageous. And you know, one of the things that
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Speaker 1: actually Wilcox said about the charges, I mean, you can
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Speaker 1: charge a kidnap in this because he was restrained in
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Speaker 1: that shed for a long period of time, maybe torture,
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Speaker 1: charges of some sort of serious assault. But this is
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Speaker 1: an outrageous thing that unfortunately happens way too often. This
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Speaker 1: one you heard about because they got caught, But it
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Speaker 1: happens way too often because they got caught. And now,
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Speaker 1: with people hiding out from coronavirus, who's going to raise
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Speaker 1: the alarm when people say if you see something, say something, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's true, but nobody's doing it much less now. And
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Speaker 1: this guy, the Caro that does speak out is now
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Speaker 1: kicked out of his apartment. Guys, I want to switch
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Speaker 1: gears to a Florida case. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friend at Santa Rosa County Sheriff's offer US Office, Bob Johnson.
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Speaker 1: She kept him at home. She cut him on the arms,
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Speaker 1: the head, made him sleep on a concrete floor, a
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Speaker 1: dirty floor, and when she bade them, she would make
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Speaker 1: him get naked, get out in the front yard and
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Speaker 1: she'd spray him off with a host She did everything
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Speaker 1: to include punching him, beating him with a dog chain,
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Speaker 1: and going as far as chipping his teeth with pliers,
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Speaker 1: which you know, I'm not making this up. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's just it's incredible what people can do to other people.
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Speaker 1: It really is. It's so disturbing. So Detective Denny, with
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Speaker 1: Major Crimes, got it hit the ground running two days
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Speaker 1: later put her in jail on one charge of aggravated
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Speaker 1: child abuse, which is a first degree felony, but more
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Speaker 1: are coming. He has gone so far as to interview
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Speaker 1: other kids she adopted that grew up and left the home,
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Speaker 1: and they're talking about similar abuse. So this is not
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Speaker 1: just one case. This is several kids. And of course
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Speaker 1: DCF has custody of all four kids now, and hopefully
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Speaker 1: you know I don't even know what to say. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how you fix something like that with a
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Speaker 1: child after you do something so horrendous to them. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold Announcesikiasha's joining me out of Atlanta. I'd
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Speaker 1: like to kiss and makeup, but you're here by satellite,
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Speaker 1: so I can't quite reach you. But I'd like you
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Speaker 1: to jump in on this because guess what, Doctor Angela,
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Speaker 1: This woman, Patricia Hiler arrested for beating her adopted son
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure others chipping his teeth. I hope if
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Speaker 1: you're not sitting down, you may want to lay down,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Angela, because she worked at a church daycare center
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Speaker 1: as a teacher. Talk about doctor Jekyl and mister Hyde.
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Speaker 1: Way in, doctor Angela helped me out. Well, it's she
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Speaker 1: was hiding behind. She was hiding behind that, wasn't she
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Speaker 1: How do these people get to adopt children? I don't
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Speaker 1: understand it. I thought it was hard to adopt children.
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Speaker 1: So she's hiding behind us and in the meantime she's
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Speaker 1: working as a daycare worker. But she could be doing
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Speaker 1: that because she actually hates children. Oh can you even imagine,
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Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott, how I would freak out, as with you,
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Speaker 1: if you find out your child has been at the
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Speaker 1: church daycare which mine went to Jackie Howard for years,
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Speaker 1: at our our Methodist church. We go to long story short,
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Speaker 1: you find out that she's a child abuser. And of
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Speaker 1: this magnitude, Ashley, listen, it happens, Nancy. This is not
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Speaker 1: the only case of this I know. And here's better,
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Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott. No, no, because you think you do whatever
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Speaker 1: parents should I know, but you do what every parents
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Speaker 1: should do, Nancy. You research, you visit, you drop by,
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Speaker 1: You do surprise visits wherever your children are to make
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Speaker 1: certain that they're not with an abuse washing him in
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Speaker 1: the front yard with a hose as he stood naked
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Speaker 1: and just uh Nicole Parton Crime Online dot Com investigator
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Speaker 1: reporter what happened Nancy? Another horrific. I mean the details
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Speaker 1: of just blow me away. And as an adoptive mom
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Speaker 1: who fought like h doublel to adopt, I can't imagine
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Speaker 1: a mother doing this to a child fourteen years old,
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Speaker 1: she'd pull him out of school because she knew she
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Speaker 1: was going to get caught, cutting him with a kitchen
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Speaker 1: knife on the upper arms, on his legs, on his
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Speaker 1: o or so cutting them on the back of the head,
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Speaker 1: jabbing a kitchen knife into his head to the point
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Speaker 1: that it stuck in his skull and she pulled it out,
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Speaker 1: whipping him with a metal dog chain, and as we heard,
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Speaker 1: taking flyers and chipping his teeth, telling him that he
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Speaker 1: wasn't loved by his birth mom, telling him that she
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Speaker 1: didn't love him either, all while she was abusing him,
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Speaker 1: and telling the siblings in the house, I treat him
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Speaker 1: this way because I don't like redheads and he's redheaded. Hi, guys,
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Speaker 1: but this is happening now right under our noses. This
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Speaker 1: devil I don't know. I guess she's bills above. She
23:30
Speaker 1: is a devil's hinch person beating an adopted child, going
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Speaker 1: through all the effort to get the child in treating
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Speaker 1: in this way. I just can't say rot in hell
23:41
Speaker 1: enough for this woman. Take up. It's making me physically
23:45
Speaker 1: sick to my stomach. And you know the one thing
23:47
Speaker 1: I hate the most, Jackie, not the most, but it's
23:50
Speaker 1: right up there is the dentist. No offense. Turns out
23:53
Speaker 1: my dentist was one of my jury's ones. Think it
23:56
Speaker 1: was bank robbery anyway. This child had his teeth chipped
24:04
Speaker 1: off with pliers. I want you to take a Listen
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Speaker 1: to our friends at sant Rosa County Sheriff's Office. Listen.
24:15
Speaker 1: I'm in year thirty eight of law enforcement and I've
24:18
Speaker 1: seen a lot of bad things, but this is pretty bad.
24:22
Speaker 1: It's a child abuse case, and we received it back
24:25
Speaker 1: on the twenty second of April. It was given the
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Speaker 1: major crimes on May the sixth, and they made an
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Speaker 1: arrest May the eighth. The individual in question, you're going
24:32
Speaker 1: to see her picture up here, Patricia Diane Hyler, forty
24:36
Speaker 1: seven years old, lived in Chalet Circle Pace. She adopted
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Speaker 1: four children and all four were abused, but there was
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Speaker 1: one that interesting, and she abused this child pretty severely
24:49
Speaker 1: and then took him out of school home schooled him
24:51
Speaker 1: for two years because she knew if she sent him
24:53
Speaker 1: to school. Obviously, somebody reported, man, how evil. So let
24:59
Speaker 1: me ask you this, in your opinion, to you, Ashley Wolcott,
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Speaker 1: how is coronavirus a pandemic affecting child abuse? Oh gosh,
25:13
Speaker 1: it is a horrible, horrible indicator of I don't know,
25:20
Speaker 1: that's not the right word, absolutely escting. Yeah. So the US,
25:25
Speaker 1: the stresses are higher and people have children home all
25:28
Speaker 1: day instead of sending them to school, and so those
25:32
Speaker 1: who are likely to abuse are doing it even more,
25:36
Speaker 1: or those who may not think that they're going to
25:37
Speaker 1: abuse their child are ending up abusing their child. Their
25:40
Speaker 1: fewer reports because of the schools not being in session,
25:43
Speaker 1: because teachers aren't laying eyes on children, because children aren't
25:46
Speaker 1: out and about, they're in their house. And so now
25:49
Speaker 1: a neighbor may not think anything of the fact they
25:51
Speaker 1: never see a child in the neighborhood because all the
25:53
Speaker 1: children are supposed to be inside, and so they're inside
25:55
Speaker 1: being abused and nobody can report it. So it is
25:58
Speaker 1: a very very scary time for children, you know, to
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Speaker 1: doctor Angela Arnold psychiatrists joining us, Doctor Angela, I see
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Speaker 1: three things. I'm certainly not an MD like you. I'm
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Speaker 1: just a JD. But looking at it as a lawyer,
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Speaker 1: if I were to try to prove the nexus between
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Speaker 1: coronavirus lockdown and escalating skyrocketing child abuse stats, a friend
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Speaker 1: of mine at the Batter Women's hotline where I used
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Speaker 1: to work says they can't take physically take all the
26:34
Speaker 1: calls that are coming in right now, that's how bad
26:37
Speaker 1: it is. But those are the people that have access
26:40
Speaker 1: to a phone, and that what people to a phone,
26:44
Speaker 1: but as it relates to children, actually pointed out one
26:48
Speaker 1: one prong the schools are closed. I can't tell you
26:51
Speaker 1: how many teachers as school workers have alerted me to
26:56
Speaker 1: child abuse, so that layer of protect is gone. Number two,
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Speaker 1: there's more time for the abuser to be with the target,
27:08
Speaker 1: the victim, the child, because there's eight ten hours they're
27:11
Speaker 1: home now that they weren't home before. And three escalating tension.
27:16
Speaker 1: I might have worked, I don't have money coming in,
27:18
Speaker 1: I can't pay their rent. There's my child. I think
27:20
Speaker 1: I'll beat him. Doesn't make any sense. It's like kicking
27:25
Speaker 1: the dog when your boss yells at you. That's what's happening.
27:29
Speaker 1: Let's add a forenge to those Okay, that you might
27:31
Speaker 1: that you may not have thought about. What about people
27:34
Speaker 1: who have to go to work, who are who are
27:36
Speaker 1: essential let's say healthcare workers, and they have to ask
27:40
Speaker 1: someone to watch their children, maybe a boyfriend who doesn't
27:45
Speaker 1: have any patience with those children because they're not that
27:48
Speaker 1: person's children. What do you make of this target child,
27:53
Speaker 1: doctor Angela? Because I first saw this when I was
27:58
Speaker 1: actually prosecuting a murder kid, the murderer of a brother,
28:03
Speaker 1: of an APD homicide. I noticed there's a big family,
28:09
Speaker 1: I think eight or eleven children, and one girl was
28:13
Speaker 1: targeted for child abuse by the dad and many people. Well,
28:20
Speaker 1: she told me she thought the mom knew Long story short,
28:23
Speaker 1: Why is one child target I don't buy this business
28:27
Speaker 1: about she didn't like redheads something else. Why is one
28:30
Speaker 1: child often singled out for the heinous abuse? I think
28:34
Speaker 1: that they can. I think that they can scare all
28:37
Speaker 1: of the other children by the horrific things that they
28:41
Speaker 1: are able to keep on one of the children. Now,
28:45
Speaker 1: oftentimes they abuse other children in the house. Also, it's
28:48
Speaker 1: just not the same extent that they abused the target child.
28:51
Speaker 1: But perhaps it allows the other children instead of ganging
28:55
Speaker 1: up on them and abusing the abusers, right, it allows
28:58
Speaker 1: the other children. Well, maybe they're some sort of hope
29:01
Speaker 1: because maybe I'm going to get out of this because
29:03
Speaker 1: they abused this one more than they abused me. They're
29:06
Speaker 1: all kinds of psychological reasons where there could be a
29:09
Speaker 1: target child. But I do agree with you. I don't
29:11
Speaker 1: believe it's necessarily because that child is a red hut.
29:15
Speaker 1: I do believe that as the abuse continues, Nancy, that
29:19
Speaker 1: it becomes easier and easier to heap all of that
29:22
Speaker 1: abuse on that poor child that is just becoming. It's
29:26
Speaker 1: horrific to leave them out at in a woodshed for
29:29
Speaker 1: two weeks a time. You know this child actually had
29:34
Speaker 1: his teeth cracked with pliers on purpose by this adoptive mom.
29:41
Speaker 1: To Nicole parton Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, we
29:46
Speaker 1: understand that there were other foster children that had aged
29:51
Speaker 1: apps find out about this fourteen year old adopted child.
29:56
Speaker 1: How did they find out about the abuse? It was
29:58
Speaker 1: one of the other children the home who actually contacted
30:02
Speaker 1: authorities via text message. I believe began to communicate that
30:06
Speaker 1: the abuse was taking place. They were trying to sneak
30:09
Speaker 1: food to their brother, trying to get food to him,
30:13
Speaker 1: and when she would find food in his mouth, she
30:16
Speaker 1: would literally open his mouth up and remove the food
30:19
Speaker 1: from him. And I think the other siblings saw it
30:22
Speaker 1: to the point that they had to reach out for help.
30:25
Speaker 1: They have all since being interrogated in question. They've all said, yes,
30:30
Speaker 1: we were all abused, but not to the extent of him.
30:33
Speaker 1: The older children who aged out of the home are
30:36
Speaker 1: now being interviewed and they too are saying through the
30:40
Speaker 1: years we were abused as well. You know what's amazing
30:43
Speaker 1: to me, Not only does she work at a child
30:46
Speaker 1: at a church daycare. Listen to this. This woman Hyler
30:51
Speaker 1: was arrested in charge with just one felony account of
30:55
Speaker 1: aggravated child abuse in Pace, Florida. That sanat Rosa County.
31:00
Speaker 1: That's down on the Panhandle, near Fort Walton and deston
31:05
Speaker 1: beautiful sugar White beaches. And this evil is going on there,
31:09
Speaker 1: the sheriff says, is one of the worst cases of
31:12
Speaker 1: child abuse they have ever seen in thirty eight years.
31:16
Speaker 1: Listen to this. The mother of four's most recent place
31:19
Speaker 1: of work is teacher at cap Stone Academy for young
31:24
Speaker 1: children with disabilities. How much do you think she abused them?
31:30
Speaker 1: And they could never say anything because they're disabled, maybe
31:36
Speaker 1: some of them autistic, maybe some of them with handicaps
31:39
Speaker 1: that make it hard for them to speak or communicate.
31:43
Speaker 1: Can you imagine what she has been doing with them?
31:49
Speaker 1: Also teacher at local church daycare center as a church secretary.
31:54
Speaker 1: Oh man, look at that sad secked face. Oh boo hoo,
31:59
Speaker 1: don't look sad at me. Target child chain, leash, chip
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Speaker 1: front teeth with pliers and cut him with a knife.
32:08
Speaker 1: According to Florida Defects Well once again Department Family and
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Speaker 1: Children Late to the same she's looking at right now,
32:16
Speaker 1: one count of aggravated child abuse, Nicole Parton. Isn't that
32:20
Speaker 1: twenty years max or is it twenty to life in
32:23
Speaker 1: that jurisdiction. It's twenty max. And as we said earlier, Yeah,
32:28
Speaker 1: as was said earlier. Unfortunately, most of these people never
32:32
Speaker 1: serve the time that is deserved. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, guys,
32:53
Speaker 1: we're now switching at gears and crossing the country to
32:58
Speaker 1: an Indiana story about a little girl just eight years old.
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Speaker 1: Let me hear our Dave matt Crime online dot Com
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter and cut fourteen. Cumberland, Indiana police were called
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Speaker 1: just after four pm on April the sixth to assist
33:16
Speaker 1: an emergency medical crew with an unresponsive eight year old
33:19
Speaker 1: girl at the apartment of Kimberly Grows Close Gross Close
33:22
Speaker 1: and her boyfriend, Derek Dale, told officers they shortly after
33:24
Speaker 1: the girl went to take a bath, they heard a
33:26
Speaker 1: thump from the bathroom and found the girl unconscious, slumped
33:29
Speaker 1: over the side of the tub. The couple said they
33:31
Speaker 1: moved her to a bedroom, where they began CPR. Gross
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Speaker 1: Close and Dale told police that the girl had been
33:36
Speaker 1: sexually molested outside of the home about a month before,
33:39
Speaker 1: although she didn't seem to want to talk about the incident.
33:42
Speaker 1: They were afraid the girl may have tried to drown
33:43
Speaker 1: herself and she'd spit up water while they were trying
33:46
Speaker 1: to resuscitate her. During their investigation, gross Close in Dale
33:49
Speaker 1: both admitted that they didn't call nine one one immediately
33:52
Speaker 1: after finding the girl unresponsive in the bathtub. Afraid. Did
33:56
Speaker 1: I just hear that correctly? Afraid? They didn't do CPRB
34:00
Speaker 1: they were afraid she'd spit up water. Did they just
34:02
Speaker 1: say that what? They were afraid they were going to
34:04
Speaker 1: get water on their bedspread? And how do you say
34:08
Speaker 1: with a straight face, your eight year old daughter has
34:10
Speaker 1: been sex molested and you'd never call police. I may
34:15
Speaker 1: not call police. I would go out and buy a gug.
34:18
Speaker 1: Does you know how I feel about guns and take
34:20
Speaker 1: care of the molester myself. I know that's wrong. But
34:24
Speaker 1: so they didn't even bother to call nine one one?
34:27
Speaker 1: Did I get that correct? Nicole? Pardon? That's correct, Nancy.
34:30
Speaker 1: They waited at least ten minutes from the time that
34:34
Speaker 1: they found her unconscious, saying that they removed her from
34:37
Speaker 1: the bathtub to the bedroom, wanted to dress her because
34:41
Speaker 1: they're trying to cover up their crime. Dressed her, and
34:45
Speaker 1: finally minutes later they called nine guys, take a listen
34:50
Speaker 1: now to Dave Mike cut fifteen. In further interviews with police,
34:56
Speaker 1: gross Clothes said that she had left for work around
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Speaker 1: seven a m. That morning. At some point during the day,
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Speaker 1: one of the kids used a green marker to make
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Speaker 1: a mess on the bathroom counter, and Dale found an
35:04
Speaker 1: empty marker in the girl's closet. Rosko says that she
35:06
Speaker 1: confronted the girl about the incident when she arrived home
35:08
Speaker 1: around three thirty pm, and that the girl had lied.
35:11
Speaker 1: When asked who made the mess, Roscoes explained that she
35:13
Speaker 1: is the only one to discipline the children and that
35:16
Speaker 1: she uses a belt because quote she has very sensitive hands.
35:19
Speaker 1: She also added the kids bruise easily. Medicks transported the
35:22
Speaker 1: eight year old girl to an area hospital, where she
35:24
Speaker 1: was pronounced dead. Shortly after arrival. A nurse notified police
35:27
Speaker 1: that the child had extensive fresh injuries that indicated physical
35:30
Speaker 1: and sexual abuse. Also, there was no water in her lungs,
35:33
Speaker 1: and her death was determined to be caused by non
35:36
Speaker 1: accidental trauma and suffocation. An autopsy revealed the girl had
35:40
Speaker 1: severe trauma to her torso, back, buttock's legs, arms, hands, genitals,
35:44
Speaker 1: and the back of her neck and head. Looping marks
35:46
Speaker 1: on her abdomen led to investigators to believe that she
35:48
Speaker 1: may have been beaten with jumper cables. Child also had
35:51
Speaker 1: trauma to her face that is consistent with someone holding
35:53
Speaker 1: her nose and mouth shut. During a search of the apartment,
35:56
Speaker 1: set of jumper cables found in the master bedroom. Ross
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Speaker 1: Closest thirty two, charged with the murder of eight year
36:01
Speaker 1: old daughter. Also charged with aggravated battery, neglect of a
36:04
Speaker 1: dependent resulting in death, and battery resulting in serious bodily injury.
36:08
Speaker 1: Her boyfriend, twenty nine year old Derek Dale, charged as
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Speaker 1: a codefendant with neglect of a dependent resulting in death.
36:13
Speaker 1: Somebody better get charged with sex molestation because I'm not
36:16
Speaker 1: going to rest until they are, you know, to Cloyd Steiger,
36:19
Speaker 1: thirty six years Seattle, PD, twenty two without homicide, Cloyd,
36:24
Speaker 1: I don't know how you did it. When I defendant
36:28
Speaker 1: would say something like you've got a dead eight year
36:31
Speaker 1: old child who's been sex molested, beaten with jumper cables,
36:37
Speaker 1: and they say the mom says, oh, I had to
36:40
Speaker 1: beat her with whatever she said, a whip or jumper
36:45
Speaker 1: cables because I, the mom, have sensitive hands and it
36:51
Speaker 1: would hurt my hands if I hit her with my
36:53
Speaker 1: bare hand. I mean, how do you not just hit
36:59
Speaker 1: her right in the face. And I'm against police brutality,
37:02
Speaker 1: but to say I have sensitive hands while your daughter
37:05
Speaker 1: is lying there dead and you're lying to police about
37:08
Speaker 1: the cod that she tried to drown herself because she's
37:12
Speaker 1: been sex and listened. Gee, I wonder by who she's
37:15
Speaker 1: eight years old? Cloyd? Can you believe this mom said
37:19
Speaker 1: I have sensitive hands. Yeah. You know, I've investigated a
37:24
Speaker 1: lot of murderous children and people always say, how you
37:27
Speaker 1: sit there and listen to it? Well, you know I could.
37:30
Speaker 1: I could reach over and punch them and have that
37:32
Speaker 1: one second of pleasure. Or I could just let them
37:37
Speaker 1: rope up them. Yeah, because once you do punch them,
37:40
Speaker 1: that could ruin the case that comes in, case is
37:43
Speaker 1: thrown out. Bam, No, no, no, I'd rather them rot
37:47
Speaker 1: in prison en route to hell. So I'm just trying
37:51
Speaker 1: to figure out. You know, you have extreme self control,
37:53
Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger, extreme you know, as my husband always says,
37:58
Speaker 1: when I go, oh, I'll call the case company goes
38:00
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no. Let's not let the cable
38:03
Speaker 1: company get too close to the flame, Okay, because I
38:06
Speaker 1: want to watch me in Summer murders tonight, and if
38:08
Speaker 1: you call cable it will be cut off. You know,
38:12
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about what this child went through to you,
38:16
Speaker 1: Jesse Scott Morgan, forensic expert. Did you hear that litany
38:22
Speaker 1: of evidence? Yes, yes I did, Nancy. It's a laundry
38:25
Speaker 1: list of things that's gone on forever and ever and ever,
38:29
Speaker 1: and it's a multitude of things. You don't just have
38:32
Speaker 1: a strike, a single strike. You've got all of these
38:35
Speaker 1: and they're all over the body, on multiple planes. You've
38:39
Speaker 1: got these these uh, these injuries on her back, on
38:44
Speaker 1: her front, on her sides, her legs, her thighs, her arms,
38:47
Speaker 1: all the way up her chest. That looping injuries that
38:49
Speaker 1: they're talking about on the abdomen is hold on. Just
38:55
Speaker 1: tell you that they have the death penalty that jurisdiction.
38:57
Speaker 1: Please Google, Okay, go ahead, please Jesse. The looping injury
39:02
Speaker 1: that they have on the abdomen as an indication of
39:04
Speaker 1: the jumper cables being used to striker with I've worked
39:09
Speaker 1: a number of these cases where water hoses are also
39:13
Speaker 1: very popular with abusers, and this is ongoing behavior. This
39:17
Speaker 1: is not something that just started. And also the other
39:22
Speaker 1: troubling part that you had mentioned, there's evidence of sexual
39:25
Speaker 1: abuse here. Now we're not going to go into the
39:27
Speaker 1: graphic nature of that. I refused to do that on
39:29
Speaker 1: the air, but let me tell you something. This will
39:31
Speaker 1: be thoroughly documented at autopsy, okay, and they will have
39:36
Speaker 1: a plethora of photographs. Yeah, this is going to escalate
39:40
Speaker 1: from you know, this kind of vanilla thing that they've
39:45
Speaker 1: gotten that they're going on here with the charges, to
39:48
Speaker 1: something much more horrible. I'd also be curious to know
39:53
Speaker 1: if this child had been photographed by these two people,
39:58
Speaker 1: if there was filming going on. You've got two people
40:01
Speaker 1: that don't have the same last name, that they're adults
40:04
Speaker 1: in charge in the house. It always raises a red
40:09
Speaker 1: flag with me anytime I see this sort of thing,
40:11
Speaker 1: because I think that the child pleasure and so this
40:15
Speaker 1: is going to escalate even further if the cops apply
40:18
Speaker 1: the pressure of this and do what they need to
40:20
Speaker 1: do to really do a deep dig on this. You know,
40:23
Speaker 1: I'm getting conflicting reports to whether this little child, this
40:26
Speaker 1: eight year old little girl died from blunt force trauma
40:30
Speaker 1: or asphyxiation. I'm getting two conflicting reports. What do you know,
40:33
Speaker 1: just cop Well, I got to tell you they talked
40:36
Speaker 1: about an indication that her mouth had been held shut.
40:40
Speaker 1: And if folks will at home, and you're aware of this, Nancy,
40:42
Speaker 1: but if folks at home between the gum and the
40:45
Speaker 1: lip will feel that little piece of tissue that's up there,
40:48
Speaker 1: it's called a fremulum. You have them on the lower
40:51
Speaker 1: and the upper gums. This gives us an indication that
40:55
Speaker 1: this has been ripped. The individuals have had a pre
41:00
Speaker 1: sure applied to this area and it rips away over
41:03
Speaker 1: a period of time, and this is being documented. They've
41:05
Speaker 1: done their job here. The child has been struck in
41:08
Speaker 1: the head multiple times. I'm thinking that they're probably looking
41:12
Speaker 1: for PATIKII in this case. They're saying that she was
41:16
Speaker 1: essentially suffocated as opposed to like a literature strangulation. They
41:22
Speaker 1: may very well have put a bag over this child's head. Nancy,
41:25
Speaker 1: I don't understand this to Nicole partner, is it true
41:28
Speaker 1: that they live in is not charged with murder? That's correct, Nancy,
41:33
Speaker 1: because the mother admitted to authorities, finally saying that she
41:38
Speaker 1: was the only one who physically struck the child. I
41:42
Speaker 1: expect that's all going to change after grand jury. Do
41:45
Speaker 1: they have a death penalty? Okay, they've got the death penalty.
41:49
Speaker 1: We'll see if they use it. You know, if you're
41:51
Speaker 1: gonna have it, don't start arguing with me about whether
41:55
Speaker 1: we're going to have it or not. If we are
41:57
Speaker 1: going to have it, this lady is the perfect candidate.
42:02
Speaker 1: An eight year old girl dead and the hands of
42:07
Speaker 1: this evil mother. Is it because the child is home
42:13
Speaker 1: due to coronavirus escalating the violence in the home. We
42:18
Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off
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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,