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- 0:02Speaker 1: A lot of the fundamental mystics of the lago last
- 0:08Speaker 1: self interest and an individual wats this is the show?
- 0:20Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome to a one book show on
- 0:22Speaker 1: this Sunday, February twenty second. I hope you're having a
- 0:27Speaker 1: fantastic weekend, and thank you for spending part of it
- 0:31Speaker 1: with me. Thanks for joining us. All right. I was
- 0:34Speaker 1: going to do a members oni show today, and I
- 0:39Speaker 1: decided in the end that all this talk about trade
- 0:42Speaker 1: and the tariffs and the tariff decision, I should probably
- 0:46Speaker 1: do a show just summarizing the whole issue of trade.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I looked, I was going to create a playlist of
- 0:51Speaker 1: all my stuff with trade, and I noticed that the
- 0:54Speaker 1: last show I kind of the shows that I dedicated
- 0:58Speaker 1: completely to the issue of trade AID are pretty old.
- 1:02Speaker 1: That is, most of them are back during the first
- 1:05Speaker 1: Trump administration, and I hadn't really I've updated it in segments,
- 1:12Speaker 1: so there are a lot of showed videos of me
- 1:13Speaker 1: in trade, but there's no one that kind of takes
- 1:15Speaker 1: the whole issue and covers the whole thing trade and
- 1:19Speaker 1: tariffs and everything's evolved, and all the arguments for and
- 1:23Speaker 1: against and so on. So and it seems like now's
- 1:26Speaker 1: the time, given what's going on, and given the level
- 1:30Speaker 1: of interest. Now, I'm really really hoping. I think this
- 1:33Speaker 1: is a false hope. I think this will not happen,
- 1:34Speaker 1: but I'm really really hoping that some of you listening
- 1:38Speaker 1: live live are confused about trade or think I'm wrong
- 1:45Speaker 1: about trade, or think Trump's right, or don't think Trump's right,
- 1:49Speaker 1: but think think you have to do something. There might
- 1:53Speaker 1: be something good about tariffs, There might be certain good things.
- 1:56Speaker 1: I'm really hoping there are some of you out there
- 1:59Speaker 1: and if you're willing to ask super Chat questions, because
- 2:02Speaker 1: I'm really i really want to make the show kind
- 2:05Speaker 1: of a comprehensive, comprehensive discussion of all the issues that
- 2:12Speaker 1: people raise regarding trade, and that would include all of
- 2:16Speaker 1: the objections you guys might have. If there's nobody out
- 2:19Speaker 1: there that believes that, maybe there's somebody out there that
- 2:23Speaker 1: might want to play act believing it and ask ask
- 2:31Speaker 1: the questions that you think people are asking out there,
- 2:35Speaker 1: or people are challenged with people are confused about with
- 2:39Speaker 1: regard to trade, So put those of the super Chat
- 2:42Speaker 1: and ask them. But it would be really good to
- 2:45Speaker 1: kind of get a a one video, this one comprehensive
- 2:51Speaker 1: analysis of everything to do with trade. So yes, ask
- 2:57Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate questions, and you know, maybe there's somebody out there,
- 3:05Speaker 1: Maybe there are people out there who are listening to
- 3:07Speaker 1: the show who think to have it's a good thing,
- 3:10Speaker 1: or that trade death sits are bad, or that we
- 3:14Speaker 1: need to bring manufacturing back or whatever whatever happens to
- 3:16Speaker 1: be beinging back. Now, I've made a list of all
- 3:19Speaker 1: this stuff I'm going to cover, but I want to
- 3:22Speaker 1: embellish that with all the stuff you want me to cover.
- 3:25Speaker 1: So please consider doing that. Asking questions and if they're
- 3:30Speaker 1: our questions you have directly, maybe questions you're not sure
- 3:33Speaker 1: how to answer, maybe questions that you hear a lot
- 3:36Speaker 1: out there, maybe just issues around trade that you know
- 3:41Speaker 1: keep coming up and that need to be addressed. So
- 3:47Speaker 1: today is Oh, so I was going to do that,
- 3:50Speaker 1: and then I de said, I don't want to do
- 3:51Speaker 1: that as a Mimberzona show because then it's behind kind
- 3:53Speaker 1: of a firewall. I want to make it as bad
- 3:56Speaker 1: as possible. So I'll do the mimber Zona show another time,
- 4:00Speaker 1: and in Today's will be a big, comprehensive one. As
- 4:06Speaker 1: we discussed on Friday, the sweet Cord has ruled the
- 4:09Speaker 1: tafts under the I E e P A illegal, that is,
- 4:15Speaker 1: they violate the separation of powers. That basically Trump has
- 4:20Speaker 1: no authority to impost traffs taiffs under that legislation. As
- 4:25Speaker 1: a consequence, Trump on Friday, I post ten percent a
- 4:29Speaker 1: broad tasts on everything basically imported into the country, a
- 4:32Speaker 1: ten percent under six one twenty two of a different Act,
- 4:38Speaker 1: which allows him to do that for up to one
- 4:41Speaker 1: hundred and fifty days. And they have to be broad.
- 4:45Speaker 1: They can't be based on any different for different countries,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and they and even there it's not clear that what
- 4:54Speaker 1: he's doing is legal because there has to be a
- 4:58Speaker 1: balance of payment or some kind of emergency, and it's
- 5:01Speaker 1: not clear that what we have today qualifies under the
- 5:06Speaker 1: Act as an emergency. The deficit doesn't qualify as an emergency.
- 5:10Speaker 1: So anyway, that that happened on Friday, then on Saturday
- 5:21Speaker 1: he said, screw this. I'm not raising about ten percent.
- 5:25Speaker 1: I'm raising it fifteen percent. So we now have fifteen percent.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Basically we have chaos. Nobody knows exactly how that plays
- 5:31Speaker 1: out and how that inter interacts with the tasi's already
- 5:35Speaker 1: placed based on national security and what are the refunds
- 5:38Speaker 1: going to do. The whole thing is a mess right now.
- 5:42Speaker 1: But we today, I'm not going to talk about that. Today.
- 5:45Speaker 1: We are going to talk about you know, talk about
- 5:55Speaker 1: trade more broadly, international trade more badly, tabs more broadly,
- 5:59Speaker 1: not about the specific of this particular case. But as
- 6:02Speaker 1: I said, please ask questions, and you know, if you
- 6:05Speaker 1: both stuff in the chat, I just am not going
- 6:07Speaker 1: to be able to answer it prostially because I can't
- 6:09Speaker 1: keep truck of it. The super chat it puts me,
- 6:12Speaker 1: it puts in a separate section. It saves all the
- 6:15Speaker 1: questions I have them all together. I'm not going to
- 6:17Speaker 1: be able to remember all the chat questions you ask,
- 6:20Speaker 1: So please do that. I know some of you are
- 6:22Speaker 1: disappointed because I don't have a members only show today
- 6:25Speaker 1: reading an iman essay. I was going to do that.
- 6:29Speaker 1: I apologize for not doing that. I will do that
- 6:32Speaker 1: in a soon I'm traveling in the next couple of weeks.
- 6:36Speaker 1: But after that we will do a Mamsonaly show where
- 6:38Speaker 1: we read an essay and we will continue to do
- 6:40Speaker 1: that as well, so it will happen. All right, Let's see,
- 6:49Speaker 1: so let's let's basically start. We'll start with it with
- 6:52Speaker 1: basically the idea, the idea of trade. The idea of trade,
- 6:58Speaker 1: which is the idea in its simplest form, a border
- 7:03Speaker 1: of you know, the idea that I purchased from you
- 7:09Speaker 1: stuff that you make with stuff that I make. You know.
- 7:14Speaker 1: This is the form in which trade existed before there
- 7:17Speaker 1: was money. And it's because without money, trade like this
- 7:24Speaker 1: is very limited. But it could still exist within the
- 7:28Speaker 1: context of simple societies where the number of goods were
- 7:32Speaker 1: minimal and where indeed there wasn't a lot of trade.
- 7:36Speaker 1: In the further back you go, in terms of man
- 7:41Speaker 1: primitive man, the less trade exists because the reality is
- 7:46Speaker 1: that most people provide for their own subsistence. If you
- 7:50Speaker 1: think about hunting gatherers, some people do the hunting, and
- 7:54Speaker 1: some people build the weapons, and some people do the
- 7:57Speaker 1: kind of foraging. But there's no formal release system of trade.
- 8:02Speaker 1: There's everybody brings it in a sense to the tribe,
- 8:06Speaker 1: and it gets distributed within the tribe based on some right,
- 8:13Speaker 1: some principles that the tribe is set on how the
- 8:17Speaker 1: goodies are distributed once they are produced. But in order
- 8:22Speaker 1: to get to a society in which there's actually trade
- 8:26Speaker 1: going on. What you need is what you need is
- 8:31Speaker 1: some level of division of lay. But now even in
- 8:34Speaker 1: the most primitive tribes you have some division of labor. Again,
- 8:38Speaker 1: the people who forage and not typically the people who hunt,
- 8:41Speaker 1: the people who build the weapons, and unnecessarily the people
- 8:43Speaker 1: who use the weapons. But you need some sense of
- 8:51Speaker 1: I guess, individual property versus the collective versus everything belongs
- 8:58Speaker 1: to the tribe, and the tribe distribut eat everything. And
- 9:01Speaker 1: I don't know when that exactly happened, where there was
- 9:06Speaker 1: a sense of I'll trade you the weapon for the
- 9:09Speaker 1: meat you bring from the hunt. I'll trade you the
- 9:11Speaker 1: nuts and berries that are forage for the meat you
- 9:13Speaker 1: bring for the hunt, or for a naive, for whatever.
- 9:16Speaker 1: I don't know when that happens in human history, but
- 9:20Speaker 1: think about it in a very simplest sense that division
- 9:24Speaker 1: of labor, and as a consequence, specialization is a massive
- 9:29Speaker 1: benefit to everybody involved. The ability to specialize as a
- 9:36Speaker 1: hunter will make you a better hunter. You'll get good
- 9:40Speaker 1: at it, you'll practice it. You probably chose to be
- 9:44Speaker 1: a hunter because you have whether it's the physical capabilities
- 9:51Speaker 1: or the strategic thinking that makes it possible. But then
- 9:53Speaker 1: you get better at it. Over time, you learn how
- 9:58Speaker 1: animals behave you learn how to trap them, you learn
- 10:01Speaker 1: how to hunt them, you learn how to use the weapons.
- 10:04Speaker 1: And if you're building weapons, you become you become a
- 10:07Speaker 1: specialist at that, and you can you can produce them
- 10:11Speaker 1: at uh. You know much. You can keep improving the weapon,
- 10:16Speaker 1: you can keep making it better, you can improve your
- 10:18Speaker 1: production capacity. Uh. And of course foragers, again it's a
- 10:22Speaker 1: specialized You know the locations of the best berries, the
- 10:26Speaker 1: best nuts. So all of that is is very primitive
- 10:31Speaker 1: specialization in the division of labor, even in a pre
- 10:34Speaker 1: trade society in which everything is put together. But as
- 10:38Speaker 1: soon as you get any kind of sense of private mine,
- 10:44Speaker 1: mine my stuff. In order to get your stuff, there
- 10:49Speaker 1: are only two ways I can do it. I can
- 10:51Speaker 1: steal it, I can take it by force, or I
- 10:54Speaker 1: can trade. And I'm sure there was a lot of
- 10:55Speaker 1: effort to take it by force. And violence and war
- 10:59Speaker 1: have been apart lot of human society from the beginning
- 11:03Speaker 1: of time, and indeed they dominate human history. If you
- 11:06Speaker 1: read history. The thing that really one of the things
- 11:10Speaker 1: that stuns me as I read history in terms of
- 11:13Speaker 1: detailed history, particular eras in particular places, is how violent
- 11:18Speaker 1: they were, how much, how many wars they were, how
- 11:22Speaker 1: much people took from one another, how much they stole,
- 11:26Speaker 1: how much they conquered, how much they pillaged and slaughtered
- 11:30Speaker 1: and raped and tortured. I mean, that was just standard
- 11:33Speaker 1: practice in all of human history.
- 11:35Speaker 2: They're very very very very very few periods of extended
- 11:42Speaker 2: peace where there's just a long period of time or
- 11:45Speaker 2: there's very little violence.
- 11:48Speaker 1: And you know, this is why when you get an
- 11:52Speaker 1: extended period of peace, it's so unusual and it's memorable.
- 11:58Speaker 1: So the peace from the Nepot War into World War One,
- 12:02Speaker 1: even though there were some minor wars in between, relatively
- 12:05Speaker 1: speaking to anything that came before that in all of
- 12:07Speaker 1: human history. Wow, that's that's pretty peaceful. Or even the
- 12:11Speaker 1: peace in much of the Empire, not at the borderline lands,
- 12:15Speaker 1: but much of the empire during the Roman Empire. The
- 12:19Speaker 1: great advantage of the Empire is that much of the
- 12:21Speaker 1: center of the empire was very peaceful, while the border
- 12:26Speaker 1: lands were very violent. Or since World War two to today, yeah,
- 12:32Speaker 1: you've got wars here and there, but overall, in the
- 12:35Speaker 1: scale of what history has shown us, incredibly peaceful, incredibly peaceful,
- 12:47Speaker 1: so once humanity kind of settles down into farming and agriculture,
- 12:54Speaker 1: where people start cultivating their plots of land, and there
- 12:58Speaker 1: is a sense of ownership, whether it's protected by law
- 13:01Speaker 1: formerly or not, there is a sense of ownership. Although
- 13:04Speaker 1: if you look at the laws of Hamawabi, the first
- 13:06Speaker 1: legal code we have is already a legal code that
- 13:09Speaker 1: recognizes private property, it recognizes debts, it recognizes the fact
- 13:14Speaker 1: that there is there's finance, there's there loans being made,
- 13:17Speaker 1: there's money or loans of grain. So once you start
- 13:24Speaker 1: settling down, once there's any similar sur vivate property, then
- 13:28Speaker 1: trade becomes essential. And so trade is a feature of
- 13:35Speaker 1: human life from the very beginning, and even at the
- 13:39Speaker 1: tribal level, when maybe within the tribe everything is communal.
- 13:43Speaker 1: I doubt that's really true, but maybe it's some At
- 13:47Speaker 1: some point that was true in tribes. Tribes traded among
- 13:50Speaker 1: each other. And if you go back even to the earliest,
- 13:55Speaker 1: earliest known human settlements a human I don't know activity
- 14:03Speaker 1: in East Africa, you see already tribes trading with one another,
- 14:09Speaker 1: trading beads, trading skins. You know, some tribes specialized or
- 14:17Speaker 1: tribes near the shore could create beads trade. Inland had
- 14:21Speaker 1: more hunting opportunities, and they would trade beads for hunting
- 14:24Speaker 1: or jewelry hunting, and that's how bads often became a
- 14:27Speaker 1: form of money. So trade of goods for goods is
- 14:34Speaker 1: really at the beginning of mankind. We can't survive as
- 14:37Speaker 1: a species without it because to be totally self sufficient
- 14:44Speaker 1: it is almost impossible for human beings. I mean, we
- 14:46Speaker 1: are not well designed for our environment. We are not
- 14:52Speaker 1: a species. They can survive at the perceptual level. They
- 14:56Speaker 1: can survive without trade in that sense with other the
- 15:00Speaker 1: people to trade with. It's very difficult. Now you can
- 15:04Speaker 1: do it, you know you can. You can watch movies
- 15:06Speaker 1: about Robinson Caruso type phenomena. You can read the story
- 15:10Speaker 1: of Robertson Cruso and in a system of a desert island, yeah,
- 15:14Speaker 1: you can survive barely and it's no fun. And as
- 15:21Speaker 1: soon as one additional person comes in the Robinson Crusoe story,
- 15:25Speaker 1: as soon as Friday shows up, existence improves significantly, partially
- 15:31Speaker 1: because now you have two people. Two people can specialize
- 15:35Speaker 1: and they can trade. So I think it's really really
- 15:39Speaker 1: important to note trade is at the core, at the
- 15:42Speaker 1: heart at the base of all human activity in all
- 15:47Speaker 1: of human history. It's it's the way in which we
- 15:50Speaker 1: can start specializing. It is at the core of division
- 15:54Speaker 1: of labor. We can each specialize in the thing that
- 15:57Speaker 1: we want. We can labor device itself into its area
- 16:02Speaker 1: of quote what's called comparative advantage. That is, I could
- 16:06Speaker 1: be better than you, guys, in everything that you do.
- 16:09Speaker 1: I could be the best at everything. And it's still
- 16:13Speaker 1: if you if you're on the math, and I'm not
- 16:14Speaker 1: going to do it today. If you're on the math,
- 16:16Speaker 1: it's still better for me to specialize and let you
- 16:19Speaker 1: specialize in the things that you're the best at. So
- 16:22Speaker 1: I should specialize. From a purely economic perspective, I should
- 16:24Speaker 1: specialize in the thing that I have the biggest advantage
- 16:27Speaker 1: over you in terms of productive skill, even if I've
- 16:32Speaker 1: even have superior production in everything I should I should
- 16:37Speaker 1: specialize in that which I have the biggest gap, what
- 16:39Speaker 1: we have the biggest gap. So comparative advantage is a
- 16:45Speaker 1: huge ultimate value creator. And of course trade is win win.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I give up the beads and accept the skins because
- 16:55Speaker 1: I value the skins more than the beads. You give
- 16:59Speaker 1: up the skins and take the beads because you value
- 17:01Speaker 1: the beads more than you value the skins. In other words,
- 17:06Speaker 1: both party are better off at the end of a trade.
- 17:10Speaker 1: That is the essence of trade. It is a uh.
- 17:15Speaker 1: It is a positive sum. It is a positive sum,
- 17:22Speaker 1: not a zero sum, certainly not a negative sum, a
- 17:25Speaker 1: positive sum. If you think about war, war typically is
- 17:31Speaker 1: negative s. If you add up, you know it's it's
- 17:34Speaker 1: it's all negative. It's it's it's lose win or win,
- 17:39Speaker 1: lose or lose lose. Usually, trade is one of the
- 17:46Speaker 1: human activities that is win when. It's why we enter
- 17:51Speaker 1: into it. It's why we engage in trade because we
- 17:55Speaker 1: are better off afterwards. Otherwise, why give up something if
- 18:01Speaker 1: we're not better off now. We can make a mistake.
- 18:06Speaker 1: You can enter trade and buy a lemon. You can
- 18:09Speaker 1: be defrauded, but then it's not a trade. It's an
- 18:12Speaker 1: act of violence. But mostly and the reason you enter
- 18:18Speaker 1: the trade is in order to achieve a win win outcome,
- 18:24Speaker 1: and bug parties. Bug parties enter it. You buy an
- 18:27Speaker 1: iPhone for one thousand dollars, you're better off because you've
- 18:29Speaker 1: got the iPhone one thousand dollars. The iPhone is of
- 18:33Speaker 1: greater value to you than a thousand dollars. Apple made
- 18:35Speaker 1: a profit pretty easy, straightforward. So trade is a win
- 18:41Speaker 1: win value creation, and it's a win win value creation
- 18:45Speaker 1: at every level in which you engage in the trade.
- 18:50Speaker 1: That is true. Whether you do it in border that
- 18:53Speaker 1: is true. When you do it with money, it's true.
- 18:58Speaker 1: If you do it with gold, it's true. If you
- 19:00Speaker 1: do it with paper money, it's true. If you do
- 19:03Speaker 1: it with people on the other side of the globe,
- 19:08Speaker 1: it's true. If you do it locally, it's true. If
- 19:11Speaker 1: you do it exchange. If you trade for services, it's true.
- 19:15Speaker 1: If you trade for goods, it's true if you I
- 19:19Speaker 1: don't know what are the other options. Every active trade,
- 19:26Speaker 1: every act of trade, is a act that you enter
- 19:29Speaker 1: in in order to better your life. You're giving up
- 19:32Speaker 1: something of lesser value and you're getting in exchange, I think,
- 19:35Speaker 1: a greater value. That's the essence. Note also, and this
- 19:41Speaker 1: is important for the whole idea of international trade, it's
- 19:46Speaker 1: individuals who trade countries for the most part. Governments, for
- 19:53Speaker 1: the most part, don't trade. Now, it's true, governments do
- 19:57Speaker 1: buy services, governments do buy some goods, but the vast
- 20:01Speaker 1: of you know, for example, military hardware and equipment. But
- 20:06Speaker 1: the vast majority of transactions that occur in the world
- 20:10Speaker 1: in economy happen between individuals or between the representatives of individuals.
- 20:25Speaker 1: The representative on the individuals could be businesses, corporations, which
- 20:29Speaker 1: is just extensions of individuals. Individuals own businesses, individuals own corporations.
- 20:36Speaker 1: I want to make this clear when we say this
- 20:39Speaker 1: is really an important point. When we say we're running,
- 20:42Speaker 1: you know, we buy a lot of stuff. We input
- 20:44Speaker 1: a lot of stuff from China. Yes, because the people
- 20:49Speaker 1: who are selling us stuff are located in China. But
- 20:54Speaker 1: it is not the Chinese government selling us stuff. Now,
- 20:57Speaker 1: it's true some of those businesses might be owned by
- 21:00Speaker 1: the Chinese government. Some of those businesses might be parstionately
- 21:03Speaker 1: humbo or controlled, the regulated, subsidized, or something. But literally,
- 21:08Speaker 1: we are buying from somebody making the stuff in China,
- 21:14Speaker 1: and there's a lot of intermediaries along the way. There's
- 21:17Speaker 1: the company in China, there's the import, there's the exporter,
- 21:20Speaker 1: there's the import, there's the company in the United States.
- 21:22Speaker 1: There's the retailer that we buy from. There's a lot
- 21:25Speaker 1: of intermediary But at the end of the day, the
- 21:29Speaker 1: trade with China is each one of us buying stuff
- 21:33Speaker 1: from people over there. The US government does not buy stuff,
- 21:40Speaker 1: with some maybe minor exceptions, from the Chinese government, and
- 21:44Speaker 1: the Chinese government is not buying stuff from the US government.
- 21:51Speaker 1: So trade is fundamentally between individuals, between individuals. There's no
- 22:03Speaker 1: such thing as really as trade between countries. Now, international
- 22:11Speaker 1: trade has again a very very very very long history,
- 22:17Speaker 1: much longer than I even thought. The more history I read,
- 22:21Speaker 1: the more I discover. Then even if you go back
- 22:24Speaker 1: to I don't know, one thousand BC, or you know
- 22:32Speaker 1: even more than one thousand BC, if you go back
- 22:36Speaker 1: as far as ten thousand years ago, when human beings
- 22:40Speaker 1: settled down into communities of farmers, they were trading, trading
- 22:46Speaker 1: across vast geographic distances. There was significant trading between Egypt
- 22:53Speaker 1: and Mesopotamia, the two big civilizations, ancient civilizations. There was
- 22:59Speaker 1: trading are going on between Egypt, Mesopotamia and the the
- 23:03Speaker 1: nomads of the what do you call it, the the
- 23:06Speaker 1: Asian Plains, the euro Asian Plains. This is the area
- 23:13Speaker 1: that goes from kind of Ukraine and Europe all the
- 23:16Speaker 1: way to Mongolia in Asia, which is basically this flat
- 23:20Speaker 1: territory that just expands and where all the nomadic tribes
- 23:25Speaker 1: that we know originate from and and have had a
- 23:28Speaker 1: huge impact on the history of the world. There was trade,
- 23:31Speaker 1: you know, among them. There was trade between people in
- 23:40Speaker 1: Scandinavia and you know pre classic Greek cities going back
- 23:48Speaker 1: a thousand BC. Uh you know, the there was trade
- 23:53Speaker 1: back then. There was clearly trade between Egypt and Greece
- 23:55Speaker 1: and other parts of the connected in the Mediterranean by ship.
- 24:02Speaker 1: There's always been trade across you don't call it country lines,
- 24:09Speaker 1: state lines, geography always and the reason is that there's
- 24:18Speaker 1: massive benefits to it. Again, the people, for example, is
- 24:21Speaker 1: my understanding, as the people in North Europe specialized in
- 24:27Speaker 1: uh a production of certain products I think weapons in particularness.
- 24:32Speaker 1: So it's and they were really really good at it.
- 24:36Speaker 1: And they had access to natural resources that didn't exist
- 24:38Speaker 1: in Southern Europe. And the Southern Europeans had stuff that
- 24:41Speaker 1: nothern Europeans wanted and they traded for it. Again, individuals traded,
- 24:47Speaker 1: and there were lots of intermediates, and there was trade
- 24:51Speaker 1: with Persia and with the Persians traded with other peoples
- 24:55Speaker 1: of Central Asia, and those people traded with China, and
- 24:59Speaker 1: all of those people also traded with India, and that's
- 25:02Speaker 1: the Silk Road, which has a history going back thousands
- 25:06Speaker 1: of years. So trade is something. International trade in a
- 25:12Speaker 1: sense of over vast geographic areas has always existed because
- 25:20Speaker 1: because of different geographic endowments, because in different geographies, you know,
- 25:25Speaker 1: different it's easier to grow different products, it's easier to
- 25:29Speaker 1: produce different things, it's easier to mine different things. And
- 25:36Speaker 1: then of course different areas, individuals, individual geniuses innovated and
- 25:44Speaker 1: developed certain created certain innovations that didn't exist in other places,
- 25:49Speaker 1: and then they traded those innovations with the others. And
- 25:51Speaker 1: of course there's arts, and there's jewelry and beads and
- 25:55Speaker 1: and and all this other stuff. And is that to
- 26:01Speaker 1: trade within a community of let's say, one hundred people
- 26:04Speaker 1: in your tribe, there's only so much division of labor
- 26:08Speaker 1: and so much specialization and so much value creation that
- 26:12Speaker 1: can be created in the context of a small tribe
- 26:15Speaker 1: of one hundred people. But if you take that and
- 26:18Speaker 1: now you extrapolated over one thousand people, ten thousand people,
- 26:24Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people, hundreds of thousands of people who
- 26:29Speaker 1: live in a dispersed land. Now you can create so
- 26:36Speaker 1: many different things. Now, specialization multiplies. With more people, you
- 26:42Speaker 1: get more specialization, more division of labor, more value creation,
- 26:46Speaker 1: more opportunities for trade. So the beauty of globalization at
- 26:53Speaker 1: whatever scale you have from ten thousand BC to today
- 26:59Speaker 1: is that you get to expand specialization and division of labor,
- 27:04Speaker 1: and therefore you get to expand value creation. And again,
- 27:08Speaker 1: specialization means increased value creation because you get to be
- 27:12Speaker 1: an expert at something and you can be more productive
- 27:15Speaker 1: at it. It gets to expand it beyond the small
- 27:18Speaker 1: group of people that you know, expanded to hundreds of thousands,
- 27:26Speaker 1: millions and today eight billion people, and that means there's
- 27:29Speaker 1: more value in the world. There's more trade opportunities in
- 27:32Speaker 1: the world. There's there's more win win and therefore more
- 27:36Speaker 1: wins in the world, there's more wealth in the world. Everybody,
- 27:40Speaker 1: everybody participates is better off as a consequence, So there
- 27:50Speaker 1: is no downside to trade because it's win win. We'll
- 28:00Speaker 1: get to national security issues in a little bit, you know,
- 28:05Speaker 1: which might be one constraint of trade. So now let's
- 28:10Speaker 1: look at what happens once you get nations, Once you
- 28:14Speaker 1: get nations, you know, with the Westphalian nation states that
- 28:21Speaker 1: is created in the West, and today the world is
- 28:25Speaker 1: dominated by the nation state all over everywhere. What you
- 28:29Speaker 1: get is national economies, governments the control particular geographic areas
- 28:38Speaker 1: because we don't have economic freedom really anywhere in the world.
- 28:42Speaker 1: You eat government intervention in economies. Once then let me
- 28:54Speaker 1: just see. If you want to ask questions for some
- 28:59Speaker 1: reason you cannot do it on the super chat, you
- 29:03Speaker 1: can ask the question on PayPal. I'll open the PayPal
- 29:08Speaker 1: page and have it open and available. As I mentioned earlier,
- 29:13Speaker 1: I'm you get to get questions from people who disagree
- 29:17Speaker 1: about my free trade stance and who have questions about it,
- 29:22Speaker 1: and so let me know if you have asked a
- 29:27Speaker 1: question right now. William Claims says he asked a question
- 29:32Speaker 1: on paper. I don't see. I don't see a contribution
- 29:36Speaker 1: or a question on PayPal from Williams. So I'm not
- 29:40Speaker 1: sure what is not working for you, William, but I
- 29:41Speaker 1: don't see it. Maybe miss lev can help you set
- 29:45Speaker 1: that up. But if you again, if you can't ask here,
- 29:48Speaker 1: then ask ask ELSEWI All right, so now we have
- 29:52Speaker 1: nation states, and you know, originally pre nineteenth century Adam Smith.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Really the dominant idea around the nation state was, you know,
- 30:10Speaker 1: we don't we don't want to. We don't want to
- 30:14Speaker 1: we want to be able within the nation state to
- 30:17Speaker 1: create everything that we need. We we don't want to
- 30:23Speaker 1: have free and open trade with other countries. And think
- 30:28Speaker 1: about it. In in those days, the primary money was gold,
- 30:36Speaker 1: and the sense was we don't want to send out
- 30:38Speaker 1: gold overseas and what do we get in return? We
- 30:42Speaker 1: get stuff, but we've lost gold. But of course this
- 30:47Speaker 1: again miss completely misrepresents what's going on, because if you've
- 30:52Speaker 1: given up the gold to get the stuff, it's because
- 30:54Speaker 1: the stuff is worth more to you at that point
- 30:56Speaker 1: in time, or worth more to the individuals doing the
- 30:59Speaker 1: trading then the stuff that you're getting. So you're getting
- 31:02Speaker 1: stuff that is more valuable than the gold you're giving up,
- 31:09Speaker 1: and that's why the trade is happening. But there was
- 31:13Speaker 1: this idea that democratist held that it's the accumulation of
- 31:18Speaker 1: gold that makes you rich, that makes you wealthy, not
- 31:22Speaker 1: the accumulation of stuff. But of course a wealth is
- 31:27Speaker 1: actually not measured in gold or money. A wealth is
- 31:32Speaker 1: actually measured in the stuff that we have. It's what
- 31:35Speaker 1: we can use that money for It's in the productive
- 31:38Speaker 1: assets that we purchase, it's in the homes that we build,
- 31:41Speaker 1: it's in the stuff we put inside the homes. That
- 31:44Speaker 1: is our wealth. So you know, value is not money,
- 32:00Speaker 1: and the usability of something for human life. You know,
- 32:06Speaker 1: what's the point of the money if you don't use
- 32:08Speaker 1: it to live? So, but there was this notion, you know,
- 32:13Speaker 1: and it's why you know, for example, people thought, i mean,
- 32:18Speaker 1: here's an extreme example of this. People thought that by
- 32:23Speaker 1: bringing in gold from from South America, the Spanish Empire
- 32:29Speaker 1: would become so rich and so powerful that it would
- 32:34Speaker 1: dominate the world. Now, it's true that bringing gold from
- 32:38Speaker 1: South America made the Kings of Spain very wealthy because
- 32:42Speaker 1: they took a certain percentage of all the gold that
- 32:44Speaker 1: came in and they used it for their own consumption.
- 32:48Speaker 1: But the reality is that all that extra gold coming
- 32:52Speaker 1: into Europe didn't they actually make you a bricher? What
- 32:57Speaker 1: did it do? What do we know happens when you
- 33:00Speaker 1: flooded a market with new money. It caused all prices
- 33:07Speaker 1: device It didn't increase the number of goods. It increased
- 33:10Speaker 1: the equality of the goods. It increased It didn't increase
- 33:13Speaker 1: the value of anything. The value stuff is the it's
- 33:17Speaker 1: usefulness to human life. Gold doesn't increase the value of
- 33:21Speaker 1: its usefulness. So what happened when you got a ton
- 33:25Speaker 1: of gold coming in from from uh uh Spain is
- 33:29Speaker 1: ultimately in the in the medium to long term, prices
- 33:33Speaker 1: in Europe went up to reflect the new supply. Money
- 33:36Speaker 1: and wealth in Europe didn't change much, and Spain never
- 33:40Speaker 1: became rich. Indeed, you know, it's it's one of the
- 33:47Speaker 1: one of the consequences of all that gold coming in
- 33:49Speaker 1: through Spain is that Spain never developed industry, never really
- 33:53Speaker 1: developed the ability to create values, to create I use
- 34:01Speaker 1: that actually produce wealth over the long run. So Milkanalism
- 34:11Speaker 1: was the dominant of you of the time. It was
- 34:13Speaker 1: this idea of that accumulating gold is what makes you rich.
- 34:17Speaker 1: But Adam Smith in seventeen seventy six, and indeed economists
- 34:21Speaker 1: even one hundred years before Adam Smith already understood that
- 34:25Speaker 1: this was a complete error that didn't make any sense.
- 34:28Speaker 1: The trade was win when and one should engage with
- 34:31Speaker 1: as much trade as possible. And Adam Smith and the
- 34:34Speaker 1: Wealth of Nation basically lays out the economic case for
- 34:37Speaker 1: why countries should have open borders when it comes to
- 34:44Speaker 1: the transport of goods. They should welcome imports and be
- 34:52Speaker 1: willing to trade with anybody anywhere in the world. And then, indeed,
- 34:58Speaker 1: over time what happened us is that people in particular
- 35:02Speaker 1: countries tend to specialize in those areas where they have
- 35:06Speaker 1: a competitive advantage, and other countries specialize in people in
- 35:13Speaker 1: other countries individuals, and other countries specialize in the things
- 35:16Speaker 1: that they have competitive advantage. And then you trade, and
- 35:18Speaker 1: that again expands dramatically the division of labor and the
- 35:24Speaker 1: benefits of the division of labor and the value creation
- 35:27Speaker 1: that's been created. So basically, Atastress shows that the free
- 35:37Speaker 1: flow of goods, the free flow of goods with no
- 35:41Speaker 1: barriers to trade, is economically the optimal strategy. It is
- 35:50Speaker 1: good for everybody, and that yes, particularly industries might lose out.
- 35:57Speaker 1: So for example, when atosource was writing, it's probably true
- 36:02Speaker 1: that the textile industry in the UK would have probably
- 36:06Speaker 1: lost out. It's probably true that it would have been
- 36:09Speaker 1: cheaper the import textiles from India, which is part of
- 36:13Speaker 1: the British Empire. Then it was to produce textiles in Britain.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Now you know, it's hard exactly say, because textiles were
- 36:27Speaker 1: the first thing that was kind of the industrial evolution
- 36:29Speaker 1: helped to mechanize. But that could have happened in India.
- 36:32Speaker 1: That is, the English expertise could have been exported to India.
- 36:35Speaker 1: So yes, one industry would not have maybe have existed
- 36:39Speaker 1: in England if there were completely open borders in hotels.
- 36:46Speaker 1: But what would have happened. The capital that was being
- 36:51Speaker 1: deployed in the textile industry in England would have then
- 36:55Speaker 1: been reallocated to other industries where England had a compatitive advantage.
- 37:01Speaker 1: So there would have been more value created because England
- 37:06Speaker 1: would have specialized in the thing that England did best
- 37:10Speaker 1: and then traded for the textiles with countries that did
- 37:15Speaker 1: best for textiles. So Atisas shows this in great detail.
- 37:22Speaker 1: It takes about you know, it was probably seventeen seventy six.
- 37:27Speaker 1: It takes basically seventy years until eighteen forty six until
- 37:32Speaker 1: the UK. Over that period of seventy years, the UK
- 37:37Speaker 1: slowly eliminates tariffs, slowly systematically eliminates all trade restrictions, and
- 37:44Speaker 1: then with the corner of the passage of the repeal
- 37:47Speaker 1: of the Corn Laws, the last remaining trade barriers fall
- 37:52Speaker 1: and England from basically eighteen forty six until ninth until
- 37:56Speaker 1: the breakout of World War One nineteen fourteen becomes a
- 38:00Speaker 1: complete free trade island. It is there no trade barriers
- 38:06Speaker 1: in England between eighteen forty six and nineteen fourteen. And
- 38:11Speaker 1: during this period you get some of the most some
- 38:15Speaker 1: of the fastest economic growth in history. You get a
- 38:20Speaker 1: massive expansion, you get industrialization, you get the real surge
- 38:25Speaker 1: of the Industrial Revolution and the great wealth creation of
- 38:28Speaker 1: the Industrial Revolution, and technology advances because you get a
- 38:37Speaker 1: reallocation of resources. One of the things that happens. One
- 38:41Speaker 1: of the things that happens during this period is pre
- 38:44Speaker 1: eighteen forty six, the poor in England are suffering because
- 38:51Speaker 1: food is expensive. Why because the corn laws are making
- 38:56Speaker 1: importing grain this tower some importation of grain. So importing
- 39:03Speaker 1: grain is really expensive, so they are restricted to buying
- 39:07Speaker 1: the mestic grain, which is expensive. England is not is
- 39:14Speaker 1: not the cheapest produce of grain in the world. America
- 39:17Speaker 1: is very cheap produced of grain. Canada, there were parts
- 39:21Speaker 1: of Europe they're producing grain very cheaply and the poor
- 39:25Speaker 1: breads could not benefit from that. And for example, the
- 39:29Speaker 1: famine in Ireland in the early part of the nineteenth
- 39:32Speaker 1: century was partially caused by the inability to import cheap
- 39:37Speaker 1: grain into the UK once the corn laws abolished, and
- 39:44Speaker 1: it opens up the British economy. It's true that many
- 39:47Speaker 1: of the farming estates in England started losing money or
- 39:51Speaker 1: their profits were reduced dramatically and they had to find
- 39:57Speaker 1: different uses for the land. But people who consume the
- 40:03Speaker 1: food i e. Put people in a class people everybody
- 40:07Speaker 1: really consumes food. This is a massive bonanza for them
- 40:11Speaker 1: because they suddenly got massive quantities of cheap food, which
- 40:15Speaker 1: made it possible for them to live better lives, to
- 40:20Speaker 1: be more productive, to participate to a great extent in
- 40:25Speaker 1: the British economy, to create more value. All right, So, uh, milktialism,
- 40:39Speaker 1: this idea of placing barriers is a theory in economics
- 40:45Speaker 1: that has been basically shown to be false from Adam
- 40:52Speaker 1: Smith till today. As I've said many times on my show,
- 40:56Speaker 1: there is no serious economist over the last two hundred
- 41:00Speaker 1: years since Adam Smith who has believed in mecanalism who
- 41:05Speaker 1: thinks the tariffs or any other kind of trade barriers
- 41:09Speaker 1: are good for the economy a good economic policy, and
- 41:16Speaker 1: that's just on the basis of economics. The other issue,
- 41:19Speaker 1: of course, is on the basis of individual rights. What
- 41:24Speaker 1: business is the government from whom I buy my stuff from?
- 41:30Speaker 1: Why is the government trying to tell me what I
- 41:32Speaker 1: can and cannot buy and where and where I cannot
- 41:36Speaker 1: buy it from? So individual rights freedom basically dictates the
- 41:50Speaker 1: idea the government has no business trying to manipulate who
- 41:57Speaker 1: I buy stuff from. All right now, in the United States,
- 42:06Speaker 1: the history is a little different than the UK and
- 42:09Speaker 1: the United States. When it was founded in the Constitutional Convention,
- 42:14Speaker 1: there was a lot of discussion about how to raise
- 42:16Speaker 1: revenue to run the federal government. States had their own
- 42:20Speaker 1: sources of revenue, but how to run this federal government
- 42:23Speaker 1: and no. One of the biggest principles of the Constitution
- 42:28Speaker 1: is that even though we have multiple states under federation,
- 42:35Speaker 1: there shall be no tariffs between those states. The founders
- 42:43Speaker 1: understood the tariffs were destructive, tariffs did not promote economic success,
- 42:50Speaker 1: and were antagonistic to the rights of individuals, and therefore
- 42:55Speaker 1: they were clear that states could not placed tariffs on
- 43:01Speaker 1: other states, that this was economically disastrous and a violation
- 43:05Speaker 1: of the rights of Americans. But then they had the
- 43:10Speaker 1: problem about how to raise revenue for the federal government,
- 43:17Speaker 1: and they considered lots of different ways to do it,
- 43:21Speaker 1: but all the different ways created problems. There was no
- 43:28Speaker 1: simple way in order to raise revenue a sales tax
- 43:33Speaker 1: throughout the economy. It would be very difficult to implement.
- 43:38Speaker 1: Before a regular system of accounting existed, Before there were
- 43:43Speaker 1: enough government agents to go and make sure that everybody
- 43:47Speaker 1: was charging the sales tax, and they could collect the
- 43:49Speaker 1: sales tax, the ability to monitor what was going on
- 43:53Speaker 1: it didn't really exist. You would have to have a
- 43:56Speaker 1: government agent at every store, you know, to collect the
- 44:00Speaker 1: sales tax, and there was no way to supervise the
- 44:04Speaker 1: stores themselves. The stores didn't report how much income they
- 44:08Speaker 1: produced to the government. It was very difficult, and they
- 44:15Speaker 1: believed wrong to tax income and again very difficult to implement. Now,
- 44:26Speaker 1: tariffs were relatively easy to collect because all goods imported
- 44:34Speaker 1: into the country came through the ports. There were only
- 44:39Speaker 1: so many ports in the US. All you had to
- 44:43Speaker 1: do was put a government office at every port, called
- 44:46Speaker 1: it the Custom's office. At every port of entry a
- 44:50Speaker 1: custom office, and then those custom officers could collect a duty,
- 44:55Speaker 1: a tax on every item that was shipped into the country.
- 44:59Speaker 1: It was easy to collect, and the government needs were
- 45:04Speaker 1: very very small. Government did not Government did not spend,
- 45:12Speaker 1: you know, more than three and a half percent of GDPs,
- 45:14Speaker 1: often much less than that during the nineteen during the
- 45:19Speaker 1: nineteenth century, except during the Civil War, three and a
- 45:23Speaker 1: half percent. It did not need a lot of money,
- 45:27Speaker 1: so it could tax things like alcohol. It cottacks a
- 45:31Speaker 1: few products, which it did. Again you know exactly who
- 45:35Speaker 1: the producers are, you know exactly where the point of
- 45:38Speaker 1: taxation is. And then it cou attacks tariffs, which were
- 45:44Speaker 1: very easy, very easy to do, and indeed eighty to
- 45:50Speaker 1: ninety of all revenue for the federal government in the
- 45:55Speaker 1: nineteenth century came from us. Now we'll get to why
- 46:06Speaker 1: we can't do that today. We'll get to that in
- 46:08Speaker 1: a minute. But what else did tariffs do? Well? Were they,
- 46:14Speaker 1: if you will, unintended consequences or the completely predictable consequences.
- 46:17Speaker 1: They actually talked about it, so they knew this. These
- 46:20Speaker 1: were the consequences of tariffs in the United States during
- 46:23Speaker 1: the nineteenth century. Well, tariffs were the first opportunity really
- 46:29Speaker 1: in America for coneyism. Really from the first bill the past,
- 46:39Speaker 1: the first bill that included tariffs that passed. Businesses started
- 46:46Speaker 1: lobbying for exemptions. Businesses started lobbying for exclusions just like today.
- 46:56Speaker 1: And this is the first area in which the country
- 46:59Speaker 1: started dividing into pressure groups, into different pressure groups with
- 47:04Speaker 1: different interests agricultural interests, Southern interest Northern interests, manufacturing interests.
- 47:10Speaker 1: Each one had a different interest depending on whether they
- 47:13Speaker 1: were an importer and exporter, whether they want a protection
- 47:16Speaker 1: for competition or didn't want protection of competition. And you know,
- 47:23Speaker 1: tariffs actually became during the nineteenth century the second most
- 47:27Speaker 1: contentious issue in politics, more contentious even than under Donald
- 47:34Speaker 1: Trump today. The number one most contentious issue in the
- 47:39Speaker 1: nineteenth century was slavery pleased until the Civil War, the
- 47:43Speaker 1: second most contentious issue in American politics were tariffs. So
- 47:50Speaker 1: tas immediately created a situation in America of cronyism. And
- 47:57Speaker 1: by the early nineteenth century to the early twentieth century, sorry,
- 48:02Speaker 1: by the early twentieth century, and really by the late
- 48:05Speaker 1: nineteen stenty two things were happening. One one, the the
- 48:23Speaker 1: gunment was going, particularly in the twentieth century, and it
- 48:27Speaker 1: needed more revenue. But two, the cronyism was getting out
- 48:33Speaker 1: of hand. People were really, really, really unhappy with the cronyism.
- 48:40Speaker 1: So attempts were made to introduce an income text. And
- 48:44Speaker 1: the idea was to introduce the income text to replace
- 48:50Speaker 1: tariff's because taros was so destructive because of the cronyism,
- 48:55Speaker 1: and because everybody understood from Adah Smith that they actually
- 48:58Speaker 1: made America poor up and they did. By every every
- 49:02Speaker 1: economic study of the late nineteenth century shows that the
- 49:05Speaker 1: high tariff rates during the McKinley era, if you will,
- 49:09Speaker 1: actually reduced economic growth in the United States, actually hooked
- 49:13Speaker 1: the economy, and the economy grew as fast as it
- 49:16Speaker 1: did during that era in spite of tariffs, not because
- 49:20Speaker 1: of tariffs. So there was an attempt to introduce income
- 49:24Speaker 1: taxes in or to replace tariffs, and that failed in
- 49:32Speaker 1: the late nineteenth century because the income tax were deemed
- 49:36Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court unconstitutional. And then in the early
- 49:41Speaker 1: part of the twentieth century there was a constitutional amendment
- 49:45Speaker 1: to introduce the income tax. And indeed, once the income
- 49:48Speaker 1: tax was brought into play, tariffs were for the most
- 49:51Speaker 1: part eliminated. They were only really introduced again. They were
- 49:58Speaker 1: introduced first in then eighteen twenties by cool Adge. It's
- 50:02Speaker 1: one of the reasons I don't think Cooliage is that
- 50:03Speaker 1: great of a president. And then introduced again by Hoover
- 50:08Speaker 1: or introduced at very high rates by Hoover with smooth Holly.
- 50:25Speaker 1: All right, so again, let me remind everybody. You want
- 50:32Speaker 1: to ask questions, you want to make comments, you wanna
- 50:36Speaker 1: you wanna disagree with me, happy to do it, put
- 50:39Speaker 1: it in the super chat. You don't have money, go
- 50:42Speaker 1: somewhere else, uh here if you want your comments to
- 50:46Speaker 1: be addressed by me, at least the super chat is
- 50:51Speaker 1: where you can do it. If you don't have two
- 50:53Speaker 1: bucks to spend on a super chat, then you might
- 50:55Speaker 1: want to think about what's going on in life. Maybe
- 51:03Speaker 1: maybe skip the uh maybe maybe uh you know, maybe
- 51:08Speaker 1: if you're if you're this dedicated, this dedicated to uh
- 51:13Speaker 1: to uh asking questions, uh, but you can't afford it,
- 51:21Speaker 1: maybe maybe you know, maybe you should think about spending
- 51:25Speaker 1: less time on the chat and more time working. All right, Uh,
- 51:32Speaker 1: let's see. So tas. Uh, there's no point in the
- 51:39Speaker 1: history where tas have actually produced a benefit for the
- 51:44Speaker 1: United States. They produced income for the government, but a
- 51:50Speaker 1: net from the economy of the US. Uh, they were
- 51:55Speaker 1: a net drag on the economy. All right, let's see, God,
- 52:02Speaker 1: it's already almost an hour. What I want to say,
- 52:09Speaker 1: all right, let's talk a little bit about what happens
- 52:14Speaker 1: if if other countries have tariffs. I get this all
- 52:18Speaker 1: the time. So people say other countries have tariffs, therefore
- 52:23Speaker 1: we should have towffs. Now, this doesn't make any sense.
- 52:29Speaker 1: Other countries, you know, other countries have socialized healthcare. Does
- 52:33Speaker 1: that mean the United States would have socialized healthcare? Other
- 52:37Speaker 1: countries have huge or bust welfare states. Does that mean
- 52:42Speaker 1: the United States should have a huge or bust welfare state.
- 52:46Speaker 1: Other countries have dictators in some cases, does that mean
- 52:50Speaker 1: the United States should have? So the idea that other
- 52:52Speaker 1: countries have it, therefore we should is is like, makes
- 52:56Speaker 1: no sense. We should do what makes sense. Maybe other
- 53:06Speaker 1: countries are stupid for having tariffs. Indeed, Adam Smith will
- 53:10Speaker 1: tell you they are the economically ignorant. I would tell
- 53:14Speaker 1: you that most economists will tell you that tariffs harm
- 53:19Speaker 1: the economy the places the tariffs. So it doesn't matter
- 53:25Speaker 1: how many countries in the world have tariffs, it's doing
- 53:28Speaker 1: them their own country harm. Now it's doing some harm
- 53:32Speaker 1: to other countries as well. For example, if you're a
- 53:36Speaker 1: US exporter, if you sell stuff and other countries have tariffs,
- 53:41Speaker 1: your goods in that country are more expensive, so you're
- 53:44Speaker 1: going to export less to that country. That's true, you're
- 53:48Speaker 1: exporting less, but the bulk of the harm is the
- 53:52Speaker 1: fact that the people in that country have to pay
- 53:55Speaker 1: much higher prices for your stuff, where if they want tariffs,
- 53:59Speaker 1: they could as much as they needed at the price
- 54:01Speaker 1: they needed it at. So tariffs a lose lose. Nobody
- 54:08Speaker 1: wins other than special interest groups special incast groups in
- 54:15Speaker 1: the country placing the tariffs. For example, who wins from
- 54:19Speaker 1: the US steel tariffs? Maybe some US steel companies win,
- 54:26Speaker 1: but most people in the United States lose because we
- 54:30Speaker 1: pay higher prices for steel. Ninety percent of Americans lose.
- 54:38Speaker 1: And some of the steel manufacturers outside of the United
- 54:42Speaker 1: States lose as well because they can export less to
- 54:45Speaker 1: the United States. So you lose. There's lose, lose, lose, lose.
- 54:58Speaker 1: That is what Steele does. God, I see the chat
- 55:22Speaker 1: is getting rowdy. Rowdy CPQ who claimed he has no
- 55:27Speaker 1: money but does have a job, has no money to
- 55:30Speaker 1: ask a super chat but has a job is pissing
- 55:34Speaker 1: people off. Good fight back, that's good. Put him in
- 55:45Speaker 1: his place. He's talking nonsense in the chat as usual.
- 55:49Speaker 1: He doesn't know what he's talking about. Why did these
- 55:51Speaker 1: leftists show up on my chat? I get why the
- 55:54Speaker 1: Trump fans show up in my chat? Why does the
- 55:55Speaker 1: leftist show up in the chat? So tariffs will lose, lose, lose.
- 56:07Speaker 1: Everybody loses except for the pressure group that wins. Uh
- 56:13Speaker 1: so uh. Other countries have tariffs, it's a lose lose.
- 56:21Speaker 1: There's absolutely no reason why we should increase tariffs to
- 56:26Speaker 1: make sure that we add on to the losses that
- 56:31Speaker 1: we should participate in the losing. Now you might say, oh,
- 56:37Speaker 1: we can use the threat of tariffing another country, in
- 56:42Speaker 1: other words, raising taxes on own people, because we are
- 56:46Speaker 1: the biggest, bigger losers in when we raise taffs in
- 56:50Speaker 1: the United States, we Americans lose the most because we
- 56:54Speaker 1: Americans pay higher prices for the things we tariff. But
- 56:57Speaker 1: we can use that to put pressure on other countries
- 56:59Speaker 1: to lower their tariffs if they happen to export that
- 57:03Speaker 1: particular good to the United States that's being tariffed. But
- 57:07Speaker 1: that actually never happens. Tarifs have never been used for
- 57:13Speaker 1: that purpose, and tais have never been successful they used
- 57:19Speaker 1: for that purpose, and Donald Trump suddenly has no intention
- 57:22Speaker 1: of using it for that purpose. All the trade deals
- 57:26Speaker 1: that Donald Trump, for example, are signed involves continuing tariffs.
- 57:36Speaker 1: You know, Americans are paying much higher prices on goods
- 57:41Speaker 1: by about ten percent on tariff goods because of the tariffs,
- 57:47Speaker 1: and other countries have not significantly lower tariffs on American goods.
- 57:54Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. Typically, what happens is when
- 57:57Speaker 1: you raise tariffs on other countries, they raise tariffs on you.
- 58:01Speaker 1: And that's exactly what's happening right now. Tariffs for American
- 58:04Speaker 1: goods overseas higher than they were before Trump started this
- 58:10Speaker 1: trade war. He creates an artificial level that's high when
- 58:17Speaker 1: he first announces the TAOS, and then he gets countries
- 58:19Speaker 1: to lower it, but they don't lower it to below
- 58:22Speaker 1: what it was before he started the stupid tariff war.
- 58:27Speaker 1: There is zero benefit to raising tariffs. Taarofs cannot be
- 58:37Speaker 1: used and are not used and haven't been used ever
- 58:39Speaker 1: as far as I know in history, to get other
- 58:42Speaker 1: countries to lower tariff to zero. There's no example of that.
- 58:49Speaker 1: I mean The way we've lowered taris to zero is
- 58:51Speaker 1: by negotiating, which is not ideal because my view, the
- 58:55Speaker 1: ideal is just a unilaterally lower tarists to zero. But
- 58:58Speaker 1: for example, we got together with Mexico and Canada and
- 59:01Speaker 1: we basically lower tarist to zero for ninety five percent
- 59:04Speaker 1: of all the trade between those three countries, and then
- 59:08Speaker 1: Trump came about, came around and undid most of that.
- 59:14Speaker 1: We were in negotiations with lowing tais to close to
- 59:17Speaker 1: zero with lots of other countries. Now again, I don't
- 59:20Speaker 1: believe you need those negotiations because the ideal trade policy
- 59:24Speaker 1: is unilateral zero tariffs. But taos are not negotiating tools.
- 59:36Speaker 1: The taxes. I'll shoot myself in the foot in order
- 59:44Speaker 1: to get you to stop shooting yourself in the foot.
- 59:47Speaker 1: Usually what happens is I shoot myself in the foot, You,
- 59:49Speaker 1: in retaliation, shoot yourself in the knee. I shoot myself
- 59:52Speaker 1: in the knee in retaliation for that, and on it
- 59:55Speaker 1: goes until we both done real harm to each other's economy,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: to our own economies, and to each other's economies. So
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: the fact that other countries tariff gives you zero reason
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: to tariff yourself Tariffs are taxes on your own people,
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: taxes when they buy something from overseas. I buy something
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: from Mexico, I pay a tariff that is unique to
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: the stuff I buy from Mexico. The tariff might be
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: different when I buy stuff from Europe. So it makes
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: no sense. It just makes no sense to respond to
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: other people's tariffs with tariffs. Now, you might say, wait
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: a minute, about our industri is a disadvantage in the
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: United States, for example, because other countries subsidize their industries
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: and we don't believe in subsidizing. Although in the United
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: States we subsidize a lot of our industries. Just look
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: at farming, for example, huge subsidies for farming, but generally
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: we don't subsidize, they subsidize. We need tariffs in order
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: to level the playing field. We need to tax our
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: own people. We need to force our own people to
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: pay higher prices for the imported goods so that our
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: domestic industry has a chance, because the reason those imported
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: goods are cheap is because the country is subsidizing it.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: But again, why not just take the cheaper goods If
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: another country is wants to subsidize their own industries, why
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: why shouldn't we just take advantage of that. Now, again,
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: it is true, some people will lose their jobs, some
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: companies will go out of business, but everybody else benefits
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: because everybody else is buying cheap of goods. And every
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: time the government steps in trying to protect one group
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: and not protect another group and so on, it only
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: distorts the economy. So the fact that in China there's
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: subsidizing goods is destructive to the Chinese economy. We know that.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: That's why we don't subsidize in America. Do less subsidies.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: In America, we're subsidizing more and more with every year.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: Why would we again respond to a bad policy from
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: another country with a bad policy of our own. All
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: of that is lose lose, lose, lose. So if somebody
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: else is producing stuff cheaply because it's subsidized, well who
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: are the Chinese? The Chinese government is really subsidizing American consumers.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: American consumers benefit, which means they have they save money,
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: which means they have more money to invest in other things,
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: which means the United States can focus on its compatatitive advantage.
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: Individuals here can invest in where they have competitive advantage
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: and create wealth and buy cheap stuff from China because
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: the Chinese government stupidly is subsidizing us. Why would we
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: turn down a gift so you don't do bad things
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: to your own economy in response to other countries governments
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: doing bad things to their own economy. It just it
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: doesn't make any economic sense, and it doesn't make any
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: sense because you're violating your own citizens individual rights. I
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: want to benefit from the fact that China is subsidizing
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: this company by buying cheap stuff from them. Why is
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: it anybody Why is it the government's business, Why is
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: it my neighbor's business. Why is it anybody's business? A
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: one thousand. Japan and South Korea did not have twenty
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: five percent tariffs before Donald Trump took office in uh,
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: you know last year. Check your premise. Check the numbers.
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: What was the average tariff in Japan and South Korea
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: on American goods in twenty twenty four? That's chat GPT,
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: all right, we can do that. What was average tariff
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: in Japan on US goods in twenty all right? It
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: was two point four percent for non agricultural goods and
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: it was eleven point nine percent for agricultural goods. So
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: what has happened since Trump's tariffs is that the tariff
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: has gone up to fifteen percent. It was significantly two
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: point four percent on average, it says. Yeah, let's see.
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: According to the World Trade Organization da DA DA, Japan's
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: simple average most favored nation applied tariff right across all
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: products was about three point seven percent. So now it's fifteen.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: So Trump's tariffs have caused Japan to increase tariffs in
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: America from three point seven percent to fifteen percent. Sorry,
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: but that's how tariffs work. It's not a surprise. Tariffs
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: don't lower tariffs. EU tariffs was something like three percent
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: on American goods and now they're higher because Trump raised
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: tariffs on your EU goods coming in. This is the
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: thing about that you have to realize Trump is a liar.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: I know this is a shock to many of you,
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: but and this is not TDS. That's just a fact.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: Trump is a liar. He lies all the time, and
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: he's lied to you about tariffs. His tariffs have not
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: lowered tariffs on US goods. They've increased tariffs in US goods.
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: This is why the trade deficit last year was the
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: same in twenty twenty five as it was in twenty
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: twenty four. It didn't change because don't reduce the trade deficit.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: They just distore prices and they create miss allocations of capital,
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: and they make the economy less productive, less efficient. Overall,
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: it's reality. And by the way, anytime you think about
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: these things, anytime Trump says anything, just go to chat
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: GPT and check and chat GIPT could be lying, but
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: you can check it a quick claude and you can.
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: You can cross the references and you can find the data.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: Aim one thousands said, thanks for the info. When you're right,
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: you're right. The thing is Aim one thousand is, I'm
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: almost always right. Almost. I mean, I'm wrong sometimes I
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: admit it, but on the big stuff, I'm right. And
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: it's it's about time you guys realize that. It's like,
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: how many times can I be right before you grant
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: me the benefit of the doubt. I don't know, all right?
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: Two more issues I want well, three moisues I want
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: to cover quickly. God, we're running out of taking huge
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: amount of I guess nobody's asking questions on PayPal, so
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: I can close the PayPal here, So William is not
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: asking a question on papal. So let me add, you
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: know three more issues that we need to cover. One.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: People argue still that tariffs are going to replace the
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: income text. So if we raise tariffs, we can get
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: rid of the income text. And isn't that better. Here's
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: the thing about that today the government spends about twenty
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: two percent of GDP it used to be three point five.
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: To raise tariffs to the level where they can cover
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: twenty two percent of GDP or not twenty two percent
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: of GDP just a portion of income text's as hume.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: It's not replacing all of the taxes, only the income text.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: I can't remember what percentage of that is income text,
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: but it's hi. You'd have to raise tasts to well
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: over one hundred percent. I think it's one hundred and
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: thirty percent. So for tarists to play the replace the
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: income text, you'd have to raise tabs to a buy
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty percent. Now, if you raise taris
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty percent, people won't buy the goods
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: because there'll be more than double the price. And if
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: people don't buy the goods, then there's no revenue for
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: the government. So it is literally mathematically impossible, and I'm
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: not exaggerating. This is the reality to replace the income
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: taxt with tariffs. The higher the tariffs go, the less
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: we import. The less we import, the less revenue there is.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: And before you have to raise the tariffs even further
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: to catch up with income tax, but then the less
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: importation there is. So it is mathematically impossible to replace
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: income taxes with tariffs. It's the reality. Sorry, Now, you
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: could replace the income tax with a sales tax because
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: there's so many goods that's sell in the United States.
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: I mean, trade is small. I have some stats. So
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: our economy is thirty trillion, thirty point six trillion in
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. That's the size of the economy GDP
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: gross domestic product thirty point six trillion. Trade of goods
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: and services is about four point three trillion, So it's
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: what twelve percent eleven percent of GDP. It's not big
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: enough to tax to generate down of income to replace
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: the income text. But if you if you taxed all
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: sales in America, or if you had a vat of
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: value added tax, you could replace the income text. But
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: then you wouldn't be discriminating imported goods from domestically produced goods,
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: but nobody is proposing Then nobody is proposing a sales tax.
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: I wish they were. It makes a lot more sense
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: than what we have. What happened here? Whoops? What did
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: I do? What did I do there? Well? All right,
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: not sure what happened there? Uh okay, So that's what
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: about un showing manufacturing? Now one of the ideas you
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: raised tariffs. It becomes very expensive to both stuff, so
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: people stop importing, but they still want the stuff that
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: they that they were importing. So now people will invest
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: in domestic manufacturing to produce the same stuff, and they
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: can produce it at a cheaper cost than the farce
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: stuff plus the tariff. That's the idea of onshoing. Now, First,
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: tasks have to be pretty high for that to happen,
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: because it's expensive to produce stuff domestically because of our
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: labor costs, because of our regulations, because of how expensive
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: it is to do anything in the United States. So
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: tavs have to be high for that to justify. Second,
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: there has to be a certain predictability and stability and
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: confidence that the traffs will be there forever for capitalists
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: to invest capital to build stuff that replace inputs, because
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: if the taks go away four years, then suddenly they
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: will be the new factories that they build will go
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: out of business because the stuff the fauners will start
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: imputing again, exporting it again at much cheaper rates. So
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: the reality is that and given done certainly about tariffs,
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: giving the vaultellity need to have. Given Trump changes his
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: mind every few days, nobody's investing in building factories in
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: the United States to replace the goods that have been tariffed.
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: All that's happening is people are buying less of those
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: goods and they're taking the hits and they're paying more
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: money for them. That's why the government has received tariff revenue,
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: increase tariff revenue because people are actually buying the imported
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: stuff at a higher price. That higher price reflects the taxes.
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: So it will not own shore manufacture because of uncertainty
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: and because tafts are just not high enough. They would
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: have to be much higher to ensure it. Now it's
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: much more likely that what will happen is you'll get
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: a what's called the tariff arbitrage. What what happened is
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: manufacturing will move from high tariff locations to low tariff countries,
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: and we'll import them from the lower tariff countries instead
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: of what we used to input from the high tarff countries.
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: But the likelier that they actually come back to the
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: United States is close to zero. And indeed, what we
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: saw last year was a net lost to manufacturing, not
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: a net increase. We did not see any increases to
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: manufacturing in the United States because of tariffs. Tas hot
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: manufacturing because they hurt exports. They hoot manufacturing, because they
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: hurt the standard living of Americans, and therefore demand by
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: Americans and therefore drops. Okay, Finally, the only legitimate argument
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: you can make about tariffs, but it's not legitimate, is
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: national security. There's certain industries we need to protect in
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: the United States because international security in a war, we
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: need to be able to produce at home. Tariffs are
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: not a way to do that. Tariffs are not a
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: way to do that. If you tariffs semiconductors coming from Taiwan,
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: you will not create an American chip industry micropostas the industry,
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: and if you do, it'll be very expensive and very
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: inefficient and very unproductive. That is not the way to
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: secure national security manufactured for that, you need to come
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: up with it with a plan, a strategy, and how
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: to encourage friend sharing, how to encourage reduction in friendly
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: territories or if it has to be in the United States,
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: how does the Defense Department guarantee that stuff is made
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: in America? By having forward contracts, by paying above market prices,
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: by paying companies to build manufacturing facilities and mothballing them.
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: There are a lot of ways in order to do it.
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: We have Intel already building out their foundry to produce
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: advanced chips. Have you seen Intel's financial statements? Have you
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: seen how badly Intel is performing? Have you seen the
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: fact that nobody wants to buy Intel chips because they're
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: expensive and they're not very good. Have you seen the
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: fact that even the advanced chips that Intel is building
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: can't compete with two nanometer chips coming out from TSMC.
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: Intel is incompetent, has been incompetent for a long time.
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: It should go bust, It should go bankrupt, It should
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: stop making chips in the United States because it's not
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: good at it. Maybe somebody, an entrepreneur, can figure out
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: how to make chips in the United States and be
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: good at it, But nobody's gonna allocate capital to them
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: because right now the government is subsidizing Intel. It's pick
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: the winners and losers, and it's picked a bad company
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: as the winner. Just check out Intel stock price recently
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: and check out its latest financial statements, and check out
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: the history of Intel, and it's conyism. Really since the
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. The only reason for tariffs, the only thing tariffs,
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: you know, facilitate, it's cronyism. You can see that with
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: the Trump administration, and Trump administration is hypercrony They sell goodies,
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: they give exclusions to companies, They manipulate the tariff policies
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: to favor some industries the expensive other industries. Complete cronyism.
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: That is the one outcome that we've gotten from TIFFs.
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: Nothing good, nothing good comes from tariffs. It's just a tax.
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: And those of us who believed in freedom generally generally
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: believe that taxes are bad, their violations of rights, They
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: distort the economy, and the fewer taxes the better, the
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: lower taxes the better. And taros were really, really, really
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: low in America before twenty sixteen, before Trump was elected,
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: and they had been declining globally for decades. We were
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: really approaching a period. We were approaching a period of
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: free trade, really free trade where barriers were dropping. China
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: was reduced terraffs dramatically over the last twenty years and
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: had reduced non tariff barriers to trade. Not all barriers
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: to trade are tariffs. But that was true everywhere around
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: the world. It wasn't perfect, it was far from perfect,
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: but the direction was the right direction. We were moving
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: towards freer and freer and freer trade. Trump has caused
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: the United States, at least the reverse that direction. Trade
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: with the United States today is the least free it
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: has been since World War Two. The rest of the
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: world might still embrace free trade, they trade with one another,
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: but the United States has now created in an island
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: of inefficiency lack of productivity caused by trade barriers. All right,
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: all right, A one thousand. You can ask a question
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: in the super chat if you want me to answer that.
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: But you're basically wrong, and you're basically wrong about intel,
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: and you're wrong about the strategy, and you're wrong about
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: the optimal strategy of how to make sure we have
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: chips for an emergency. The last thing you want is
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: to alig on Intel, which has not proved its capabilities,
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: and they have strategies that the US coming could e
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: gain in securing chips in the United States. And indeed
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: there are two foundries, two companies that produce chips in
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: the United States for the Defense Department that are not Intel,
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: and maybe they should be producing more chips. But subsidizing
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: Intel and is there is by far the wrong strategy,
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: and taking an equity stake in Intel is a disaster.
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: All right. I know I keep answering, Aim, I shouldn't,
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: I shouldn't I should ignore him? All right? That is trade. Now.
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do now is I'm gonna look at
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: the super chats and see take all the questions about trade.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna do some song reviews, and then I'll
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: finish up the questions whatever questions exist beyond that. All right,
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: let's start with Jennifer pro tariff arguments. Trade deficit, bad,
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: dependence on hostile nations for necessary goods, destroying manufacturing jobs,
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: retaliation for tariffs put on us. That's all the stupid
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: arguments I can think of. Okay, let's see trade deficits,
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: bad trade deficits. I didn't talk about trade deficits. I
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: should so thank you for asking that, Jennifer, trade deficits.
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: How can trade efficis be bad? I mean, I have
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: a massive trade deficit with the grocery store. I go
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: to the grocery store and I spend my money there,
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: and the grocery store never does a super chat, never
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: does a super chat, so I never get my money
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: back from the grocery store. Now does that mean I'm
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: worse off? For better off? If I have a trade
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: deficit with the grocery store. I traded with the grocery store.
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: I gave them money and I got stuff. I'm better off,
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: they're better off. That's the whole point of win win. Now,
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: when you're talking about the international trade, it is true
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: that when I buy something from Mexico, they now have dollars,
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: and when they want to go buy stuff in Mexico,
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: they can't use those dollars. So what do they do. Well,
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: they have to either buy stuff from an American using
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: those dollars, or they have to invest in America, buy
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: a bond, by a stock still, buy stuff by real
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: estate in America. So the reality is that trade deficits
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: are offset by investment. Subpluses. There's a massive surplus of
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: investment in America because every dollar that some foreigner has
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: because he sold something to an American and got a
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: dollar in exchange, every one of those dollars comes back
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: to America, typically as an investment. Some of the dollars
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: are spent on importing, on our exports. But there's an imbalance, right,
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: there's a there's trade deficit. The gap about a trillion
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: dollars is for any investment in the United States. So
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: trade deficits don't matter because the dollars flow back to
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: the US. And let's say the Mexicans doesn't want to
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: buy anything from the US, but he needs to buy
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: I don't know, he needs to buy I was gonna
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: say gasoline, but they have plenty of oil in Mexico.
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: So he needs to buy copper from Chilian. So he
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: uses the dollars to buy Chilean copper because the dollar
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: is used for international trade. Now the Chilean has the dollar.
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: The Chilean needs oil, so he gives the dollar to
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: the Soud and he gets the oil. Now Saudi has
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: a dollar. He buys American stocks with that dollar, and
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: the dollar is back in the US. That's how trade
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: on a global scale happens. And it's why. By the way,
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: the dollar is used as the kind of currency, it's
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: because everybody has them, because they're all selling stuff to
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: the US. They all have dollars, and yet they have
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: their in ace sense get rid of those dollars, so
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: they might as well use it for trade among each other.
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: And the dollars relatively stable, and they trust the political
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: system in the US at least they used to, and
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: therefore the dollar is used for most global trade, but
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: the dollars all flow back to the US, so trade
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: deficits don't matter. Dependence on hostile nations for necessary goods,
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: that's a national security issue. And yes, we should think
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: about are they goods that we have to produce in
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: the United States? And if they are, then we need
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: to find strategies by which to make those goods in
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: the United States. But national security is way, way, way
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: over used as an excuse. Just notice that tariffs on
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: furniture are justified by national security. Tariffs and cause automobiles
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: justified by national security. But if we find it good,
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: let's say rare earth materials, then what we need to
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: do is deregulate the mining business, deregulate land ownership, deregulate
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: the ability to build manufacturing plants that can produce the mining,
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: and then the defense uponment can then go to companies
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: that own the mines and own their refining capabilities and
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: say we'll buy x amount of this rare earth material
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: for the next ten years at twenty percent of a
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: market prices. And that is a subsidy in a sense,
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: but that is a way in which you're now creating
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: an incentive for capital to flow in, for people to produce,
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: the people to create, for competition to arise. And yes,
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: the government will be overpaying for the next ten years,
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: but now you'll have a domestic industry this producing that
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: rewarth material that you actually need for national security reasons.
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: It's just like when we buy a fifteen, so the
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: goverment is overpaying for fifteens. They have to otherwise nobody's
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: going to invest in f sixteens, f thirty fives, sixteens
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: or whatever it is. There's no we're not going to
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: rely on international competition to build our weapon systems. So
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: we overpay for the weapons systems, knowing we're overpaying, but
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: knowing that we have to buy them domestically. Anything that
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: we have to buy literally have to proven through national
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: security strategy, overpay, make long term commitments, and you'll see
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: capital flowing into that industry to produce the thing that
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: you need. Destroying manufacturing. It's true that phone competition can
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: destroy it, particularly industry in the United States, but it
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: does so by lowering prices, by making it more efficient,
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: and thus by improving the quality of life and stand
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: of living off Americans. It's just like what would happen
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: if in another state. Let's say you know you're you'rere
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: euinnning an autofactory in Michigan, and then somebody opens up
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: a auto factory that's much more productive, much more efficient,
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: and doesn't use what do you call it, union labor
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: in South Carolina. Well, some auto companies in Michigan will
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: have to close some factories because they can't be Should
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: we ban that, should we ban competition? Well, now we're
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: just expanding competition across the oceans, which is great. More
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: division of labor, more specialization, yes, more what shooptet are
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: called creative destruction. But the creative destruction is a net
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: positive win win ultimately, and that creates more jobs, not
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: less jobs, higher paying jobs, not low way paying jobs.
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: Wages have gone up with globalization, not down, and the
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: number of jobs has gone up, not down. The number
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: of jobs in manufacturing has gone down, but that's mostly
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: because of automation. We still manufacture a lot in the
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: United States in spite of globalization, and we make more
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: money because we have focused on the things we're particularly
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: good at. Comparative advantage. All right, the rest I think
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: I have covered, Thank you, Jennifer Adam By USA. Why
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: not just buy only from your state, your city, your neighborhood.
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: Of course we wouldn't be better off. Time to revisit
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: objectivist Island. Yeah, yes, I mean absolutely. It is no
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: logic can buy USA. You should buy the best, cheapest,
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: highest quality for the price product you can buy because
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: it's in yourself interest to do so, and you shouldn't
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: care where it's made. Indeed, as Harry Binswanger writes in
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: his essay on by America as an American, if you
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: buy because something's made in America and not because something's
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: the best quality per dollar spent, you are being an
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: American because you're being sacrificial for the sake of the States,
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: for the sake of I don't know. Some some buy
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: USA mythology by the best at the best price, and
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: that's true. By USA, it's the whole we now have
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: buy local. Why why I want to buy the best?
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: You know, so many things are If you bought local,
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: you would never buy a computer, never buy chip micros processor.
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: You wouldn't buy anything with my core processes because almost
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: none of you live in a locality where microprocesses are built.
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: And that's good because building micro processes needs economies of scale. Wes,
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: thank you for the fifty bucks. Really appreciated. I never
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: understood how other countries are supposed to pay the tariffs.
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: I mean, how does the US government collect the tariff
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: from a Chinese company. It's obviously obvious someone in the
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: US has to pay the triff. Yes, that's another myth
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: about tariff, that somehow foreign countries pay the tariff. Now
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: here's how theoretically it would work. But they wouldn't pay anything.
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: They would just eat it. So the idea is they
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: so want to sell their stuff in the US that
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: what they do is they reduce the price by the
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: amount of the tariff, so that American consumers don't pay
- 1:32:27Speaker 1: any higher price. They paid the same price they did
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: before the tariff, but now a certain percentage of that
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: price goes to the US government as the tax, and
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: while and the US consumer is no worse off, it's
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: just the Chinese company is getting less money and the
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: US government is getting more money. That's the theory, and
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: it works, right. It works. If faron companies eat the tariff,
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: prices for US goods don't increase. It's just the recipient
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: of what you pay changes from the Chinese company to
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: now the Chinese company plus the government. But the reality
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: is they can't profit margins, and most of these goods
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: are very small, and suddenly you're increasing it costs by
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: fifteen percent, and you expect them to eat that, and
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: you're increasing the fifteen percent on all their competitors as well.
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: So they're not going to eat it. They're going to
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: make the consumer eat it, which is exactly what happens.
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: And we saw last year that the effective tariff that
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: US consumers are paying are in a sense of higher prices.
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: It was seven point six percent last year. It'll be
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: over ten percent this year because it's rule in now
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: with the change in tariffs as of yesterday or as
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: a Friday, we'll see how it actually works and what
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: it actually works out to be. But there's literally so
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: that's how wes. That's how Trump can credibly argue that
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: feigners pay it because because prices don't go up and
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: then the feigner but they get less money for the
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: product because the taxes has to be paid out of
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: that price, so they're eating it. But the reality is
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: that that's not happening, and it never does happen. When
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: tarists go up, it's the consumer that eats it because
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: profit margins are not high enough for businesses to eat
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: the tariff. Feign businesses to eat the teff. Chinese companies
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: barely make any money on the stuff they sell. Americans
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: f lip it milk. Intialism the belief that man cannot
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: decide It is the idea here the collective or king
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: is above the individual. It is collectivism, the denial that
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: man needs to think to negate man as man. Bad
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: economics is just the consequences. Yes, I mean every time
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: the government is intervening in the economy, it is a
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: reflection of a belief that you as an individual shouldn't
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: in a sense, cannot make decisions for yourself that there
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: is some central planner, there's somebody up in government who
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: is better qualified, better equipped to make decisions for you.
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: And therefore, any time any government intervention in the economy,
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: whether it's mook into list or otherwise, is a reflection
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: of a philosophical system that denies you. Agency denies you
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: the ability to make decisions for yourself. And it's an
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: implicit acceptance of a philosophy that says you are not
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: capable of, or not competent to, or don't have the
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: right to make decisions for yourself. And that's true of
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: tariffs as well. The government is going to decide whether
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: you should input stuff from buy stuff from China or not.
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: Let's see Gail says, well, you mean to say that
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: don't add billions and billions to the making economy. No,
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: they do add billions to government because there are tax
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: that's being raised and we pay that tax, and therefore
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: the government has higher revenues. And that is not good.
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: That is, raising taxes has never been good. If you
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: want to close the deficit, which we all should want,
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: not the trade deficit, which is irrelevant, but the government deficit,
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: which is very relevant. That is that the government spends
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: much more than it takes in the way to do
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: that is by cutting spending, not by raising taxes. Republicans
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: always used to understand that. But now we're tariffs, they
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: advocate for raising taxes. Actually, it's not true. Republicans always
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: used to understanding. Republicans have always been the political party
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: of tariffs. Going back to nineteenth century, Republicans were the
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: ones who were pro tariffs. Democrats were the ones who
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: are anti traves. That's true through most of American history,
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: with exception of the late twentieth century, where Democrats were
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: pro tuts and Republicans were anti tais until Trump. Um
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: let's see um Simon says, why does the US president
- 1:37:57Speaker 1: the government have any say in economics or true between
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: individuals and companies. Well, because because we haven't restricted them
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: from having that say, we don't recognize economic rights the
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: same as we do other kinds of rights. We have
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: granted the government the power to intervene in our lives
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: when it comes to economics in a big way, and
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: our economic rights have not been protected at all. That's
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: just that's true of trade, but that's true of all
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: the regulations and taxes and so on. Plus we have
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: a huge government that has to fund itself in some way,
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: and therefore we have approved them to tax us, which
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: is a clear violation of our rights. It's the Amendment
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: to Constitution that allows the income tax as an example
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: of them. And you Kearn says Devil's Advocate Advocate. The
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: problem isn't trade. It's Trifon's dilemma, which the US is
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: required to run persistent deficits to keep international trade running.
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: That's just not true, right. International trade can still run
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: even if the United States has a balanced trade. It
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: just means that the dollars flow back to the United
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: States in the form of purchasing American goods. So there's
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: just no Now, there's nothing wrong with deficits. So running
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: a deficit in order to facilitate lots of dollars out
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: there in the world is fine, although the reality is
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: again the dollars all come home in the form of
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: either buying either formative from the United States perspective exports,
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: or in the form of investments. One way, the other
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: dollars come home. Let's see if there's any other. It's
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: hard to understand the argument, right, Philippa says, it's hard
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: to understand the argument of national security for tariffs. US
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: has plenty of valors, and it can buy and stock
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: already made stuff for future use. Absolutely, And the US
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: produces a lot of stuff and in time of wall
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: can shift production very quickly. And in the United States says,
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: more manufacturing capacity capabilities today than ever in its history
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: with less labor. But that's because of automation. But it
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: has the manufacturing capabilities. So yes, the national security argument
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: is a bogus argument. National observe Nature observer says, I
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: don't think there's any national leader who thinks that tariffs
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: are wrong in principle. They do trade deals only to
- 1:41:15Speaker 1: make trade stable or quote fair. Example, Connie does this. Yes,
- 1:41:21Speaker 1: I agree, there is no national leader, maybe with the
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: exception of Milay, who at least understands this. Whether he's
- 1:41:27Speaker 1: willing to implement it or not, we'll see. But there's
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: not who understands the tariffs are wrong in principle. But
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: they are wrong in principle because there are no national
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: leaders out there willing to give up the power the
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: tariffs give them. That's the reality. Stephen says, would you
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: commend Command Roberts. Command Roberts for his clear and logical writing.
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: Did you want to stand epa versus West Virginia? Can
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: you explain that case and how it differs from learning. Well,
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: we're not going to do that now because it's not
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: related to tariffs. Yeah, I mean Roberts did a good job. Again,
- 1:42:13Speaker 1: I think Ghostich did a better job. I think ghost
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: Itch is an argument, but I haven't read Roberts in
- 1:42:19Speaker 1: detail yet. And bet Roberts came to the right decision.
- 1:42:27Speaker 1: So good for Roberts, and his decision is clear and short.
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: Twenty one pages. That's an achievement. It's a good fame.
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: All right, Let's do some song reviews and then I'll
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: go back to your questions and finish up the super
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: chats so you can keep asking super chat questions. By
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: the way, we've only raised half of what we should
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: be raising. Because we're in the second hour, we're probably
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: going to go into our third hour behind on the fundraising.
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: So not good. Not good. Last few days we've been
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: last few days have been short on contributions on the
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: super chats. So it would be great if some of
- 1:43:20Speaker 1: you picked it up a little bit. All right, let's
- 1:43:22Speaker 1: see I'm looking for Okay, so let's start with. First
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: song is called the Uh, Let the Bad Times Roll.
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: This is from John John Glue Let the Bad Times Roll.
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: It's the Offsprings twenty twenty one hit, Let the Bad
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: Times Roll. It's kind of a what would you call
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: it a typical song. It's it's got kind of upbeat
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: music and it's playing off Let the good good Times Roll.
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: And this is like the Bad Times Role, but it's
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: got that same upbeat music as if it's about the
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: good times, but it's really criticizing kind of what's going
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: on in the world. And it's it's primarily criticizing uh,
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: kind of the world and the Trump and kind of
- 1:44:16Speaker 1: uh what happened on the Trump presidency. There's direct references
- 1:44:21Speaker 1: to Trump in the song. It's kind of a it's
- 1:44:26Speaker 1: got a fun beat and a fun melody. It's it's
- 1:44:30Speaker 1: again upbeat and and and crazy. Oh Baby, Let the
- 1:44:35Speaker 1: Bad Times Roll. Machiavelli flow, Hey Lincoln, how does your
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: grave role? The idea of Lincoln rolling in his grave,
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: given what's what's happening here? It was there's some direct
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: references to to kind of Trump stuff, Mexicans and Blacks
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: and Jews, got it all figured out? For you gonna
- 1:44:55Speaker 1: build a wall. Let's decide apathy or suicide. I I
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: think the you know this, apathy and suicide keeps coming back.
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: It's the idea that you have a choice. You can
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: either commit suicide, which is basically vote for Trump, or
- 1:45:10Speaker 1: the status quo nothing changes, which is what the alternative is. UH.
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: And the passion is on the side of suicide, and
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: the apathy is on the side of the status quo.
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: And you know that the bad times roll, the bad
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: times are rolling is a consequence, so well, don't think
- 1:45:33Speaker 1: we're crazy crazy when you see all the hell we're raising.
- 1:45:38Speaker 1: It's it is. It's a fun song, you know. I
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: like that. I wouldn't listen to it again, I don't think.
- 1:45:48Speaker 1: But it's got a nice beat. It's it's it's got
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: a nice uplifting and again it's it's cynical and critical
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: of UH, of of what is what is happening? Let
- 1:46:02Speaker 1: me see if there's something else I wanted to say.
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: It became a major rock hit, a top Billboard mainstream
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: rock charts. It's all about political disillusionment. It's a reflection
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: on kind of world leaders giving up on solving crisis.
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: That's the apathy. So the people who are doing stuff
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: a suicidal. The people were apathy of giving up. And
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: that's the best we can hope for, is the giving
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: up because the others all suicidal. It's Machiavalian, right mechia
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: value flow is in the lyrics again, direct references to
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election. Oh there's a reference to locker up.
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: Where's the locker up stuff? There's a direct reference to
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: locker up here, So direct references to Trump. Yeah, now
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: it was all a lie, but that bitch won't get
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: in my way. Keep shouting what I like, lock her up,
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: lock her up? Now that's a good one, I gotta
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: say so. Clearly a song that is reflection of reflecting
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: on Trump and his way. You know, I enjoyed the music.
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: I guess it's a it's in its own way, a
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: protest song. I don't know how effective it is that
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: a protest song. You know, the the upbeat, positivity of
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: the melody and the beat, crash with the with the
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: with the cynical downbeat, let the bad times roll lyrics
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: of the song. But that's kind of what I guess
- 1:47:38Speaker 1: makes it makes it fun and somewhat interesting, all right,
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: second song is No Doubt, No doubt, It's my life.
- 1:47:51Speaker 1: It's my life. So it's my life is an older song,
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: which was it was a song by Talk Talk in
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four and it was re uh you know uh.
- 1:48:03Speaker 1: It was done by No Doubt with what's her name,
- 1:48:07Speaker 1: ugly loo uh singing the lead in it. This one
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: is is again it's upbeat, fast, uh, melodic, very it
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: has an eighty sound to it, even though this particular
- 1:48:25Speaker 1: version was done in in in the early two thousands,
- 1:48:29Speaker 1: I think, or maybe the nineties, but it's got that
- 1:48:33Speaker 1: eighty eighty feel to it. Gwen Stefani Storry not Aglilo,
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: Gwen Stefani. So it's it's it's sung by Gwen Stefani.
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: She has a good voice, and you know it's got
- 1:48:44Speaker 1: it's got that upbeat, melodic and and very uh you know,
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: a live kind of beat to it. Again, it's got
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: this in spite of the the the kind of positivity
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: of the sound, the melody, the beat. It's a pretty
- 1:49:05Speaker 1: downer of a song. It's it's it's my life, but
- 1:49:10Speaker 1: it's it's my life, which is being you know, people
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: are screwing over and you know, so it's I'm standing
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: up for myself. This is a woman standing up for herself,
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: but one that is it's in defiance of other people
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: trying to screw me over. So it's a very defiant song. Certainly.
- 1:49:35Speaker 1: The music video has a fan fatale character killing three
- 1:49:40Speaker 1: different men in it. It's not clear what the men
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: have done to her, but she murders all three and
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: then she's in the music video. She is executed for it.
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: But it's a it's got to feel good, and again
- 1:49:56Speaker 1: the music video contradicts the feel good like she's killing
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: people and she he gets killed herself by the authority.
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: She's on trial, but it's like a stand up in
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: your face, I'm gonna do it again. It's fun, it's
- 1:50:10Speaker 1: it's it's got a candy quality to it in terms
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: of the the the music, but it's you know, it's
- 1:50:23Speaker 1: not a it's not a song that it's not a
- 1:50:25Speaker 1: song you're gonna I think when dislikes it's just not
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: particularly interesting. I don't find it that particularly interesting. You know. Oh,
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: it's my life, don't you forget. It's my life. It
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: never ends, it never ends, it never ends. But then
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: she's being executed. She i guess it does ends. Funny
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: how I blind myself. I never knew I was sometimes
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: played upon, Afraid to lose. Oh, I'd let myself. I
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: tell myself, what good do you do? Convince myself. It's
- 1:50:54Speaker 1: it's about putting yourself down and it's standing up for yourself.
- 1:50:57Speaker 1: It's my life. Don't you forget? It's my life. It
- 1:51:00Speaker 1: never ends, it never ends. So it's got this conflicted
- 1:51:05Speaker 1: character who's been used and abused and let herself be
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: used and abused and then decides to stand up for
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: herself in spite of that. So kind of again a
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: mixture between and a bit of a contradiction between I
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: think the music and the actual theme. But very eighties upbeat, cute. Again.
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: I would never listen to it more than once. It's
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: like candy. You know, you taste it and it's fine,
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: and it's good, but it leaves no no lasting impression.
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: It's not it's not gonna stay with me. Here's a
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: song that is not candy. This is called Hello Hello,
- 1:51:53Speaker 1: Hello Heaven, Hello, sung by Young Blood. So this is Hello,
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: Heaven Hello, sung by Young Blood. It's a nine minute song,
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: very atmospheric, it's got a very melodic very pretty beautiful beginning.
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: It then gets very angry. Uh and and and and
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: and you know the singer is yelling and and anti melodic,
- 1:52:17Speaker 1: and it ends again on a very kind of soft,
- 1:52:21Speaker 1: soft note. It's how to tell what it's really about
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: just from the lyrics, you know, it's it's it's not
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: clear is he talking to is he talking to God?
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: Is he talking to his past? Is he's talking about
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: the future? What does he actually want? Uh? Then it
- 1:52:41Speaker 1: goes into this anger. You know, since I was a
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: little boy, I devised a windmill gate gateway. They kicked
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: me in the mud and they told me that's the
- 1:52:50Speaker 1: price you pay. So it's very again somebody who's got
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: beaten up and kicked around, and he's angry, and he's
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna move into the future in spite of that,
- 1:52:59Speaker 1: and he's gonna succeed in spite of that. I mean,
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: I think it's interesting musically. I like songs that change
- 1:53:06Speaker 1: in mood and don't have one just just simple story
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: to tell, but has actually a change and a and
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: a flunctuation, which this definitely does you know it it
- 1:53:24Speaker 1: you know, supposedly the the hello. There's a lot of
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: Hello Hello, Hello, Hello, repeated in the song. Supposely that
- 1:53:31Speaker 1: has a double meaning. It's a greeting to his future
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: and a fallwell to his past self. So a lot
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: of this is a dialogue with his past self. Uh.
- 1:53:42Speaker 1: There's a line one step into heaven, but first you'll
- 1:53:46Speaker 1: go to hell and back. That's repeated a number of times.
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: This symbolizes the painful processes of supposedly self reclamation, self
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: moving forward and and and and giving, you know, stepping
- 1:54:01Speaker 1: out of the past and moving forward and achieving. So
- 1:54:04Speaker 1: it's got a sudden positivity instead of moving forward. I'm
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: not going to be dragged down by my past. I'm
- 1:54:10Speaker 1: not going to be dragged down by the bad things
- 1:54:12Speaker 1: people have done to me. There's a Helloa you are
- 1:54:17Speaker 1: you out there? Do you know me? Do you love me?
- 1:54:19Speaker 1: Do you hate me? This is this is kind of
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: the opening lines. This is again vulnerability. Is he talking
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: to Who's he talking to exactly? It's not clear. Maybe
- 1:54:32Speaker 1: he's talking to himself, which is probably the most likely thing,
- 1:54:36Speaker 1: and again trying to move forward. Maybe he's talking to
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: the audience. There's a chance I won't see you tomorrow,
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: so I will spend today saying hello. And this is
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: in the in an acoustic kind of midsection. I don't
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: know if I can make it, but I know it's
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: how I feel so again, emotional driven, driven forward, but
- 1:55:06Speaker 1: acknowledging kind of a painful past. And it's an interesting song. Again,
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: I don't particularly like it. And you guys, you know,
- 1:55:13Speaker 1: you know you choose music I don't particularly like. You know,
- 1:55:19Speaker 1: you really have to take to figure out the meaning
- 1:55:22Speaker 1: of the lyrics, and it's hard to completely sympathize. Again,
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: I like the chain of tone. I like the change
- 1:55:30Speaker 1: of music, the change of pace in between. If you're
- 1:55:33Speaker 1: going to do a nine minute song, you'd better have
- 1:55:35Speaker 1: variation in it. He has a voice. I like it
- 1:55:39Speaker 1: more when it's when it's soft and melodic with an
- 1:55:45Speaker 1: acoustic less when he's yelling or angry. But rock is angry,
- 1:55:51Speaker 1: I mean rock vehemently is is angry? All right. One
- 1:55:58Speaker 1: most song, let's see this is FX. This is winning
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: by Nefix. I don't know what fix win NEFX And
- 1:56:08Speaker 1: I suppose the Fix has been influenced by objectivism. Somebody said,
- 1:56:12Speaker 1: and you can see in some of the lyrics, Uh,
- 1:56:15Speaker 1: there's some lyrics here that that that uh sound like
- 1:56:19Speaker 1: they're being influenced. Uh the second line. So here's the
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: first part of the song. I I I can feel
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: the blood creeping up from the heathens. God will, got fight,
- 1:56:32Speaker 1: got pride, got reason, got reason, got reason. If you
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: want to go eat, then you know I'm going to
- 1:56:43Speaker 1: feed them. If you're coming for me, hope you're ready
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: for a demon. So this is some kind of like
- 1:56:50Speaker 1: an anthem. It's like standing up for yourself. It's very
- 1:56:54Speaker 1: much sung. I don't know what you call the style,
- 1:56:57Speaker 1: uh rap, I don't know. I don't know the This
- 1:57:01Speaker 1: is not my kind of music, and I don't particularly
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: I don't particularly like it. I don't like the singing.
- 1:57:08Speaker 1: But it's it's it's resilience against hardship. It's self reliance
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: and discipline. It's like, I can do this. I have
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: a competitive edge. I'm thinking long term. I've got reason.
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: You know, I've got fight, I've got pride. It's very
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: much a standing up for yourself. And I guess you
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: guys like these kind of songs because it's a theme.
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: It seems like I can feel the blood creeping up
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: from the heathens. I can feel the blood creeping up
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: from the heathens. Got will got fight. God will got fight,
- 1:57:44Speaker 1: got pride, got reason, got pride, got reason. If you
- 1:57:47Speaker 1: want to go eat, If you want to go eat,
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: then you know I'm gonna feed him. I don't know
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: what that means. If you're coming for me, if you're
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: coming for me, hope you're ready for a demon, right,
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: So this is I'm gonna I'm gonna beat you. I'm
- 1:57:58Speaker 1: I could be a demon. So I don't know. Not
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: my music, I don't like it. It's it's it's no melody.
- 1:58:06Speaker 1: It's all rhythm, right, no melody, no harmony, just rhythm, rhythm, rhythm. Uninteresting.
- 1:58:14Speaker 1: It's it's like maybe it maybe it stands up as poetry,
- 1:58:18Speaker 1: and I'm not an expert on poetry. Maybe there's poetry here,
- 1:58:22Speaker 1: but there's no music here. It's not musical in my view,
- 1:58:26Speaker 1: so I can't really relate to it. But I get
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: you know, I I do find it interesting that somebody
- 1:58:33Speaker 1: would say God reason in a song like this. It's
- 1:58:36Speaker 1: because nothing in the lyrics other than God reason suggests reason.
- 1:58:40Speaker 1: Everything else is about emotion, So it's almost like a
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: gratuitous thing there. Because he's been influenced by objectivism, saying
- 1:58:47Speaker 1: he knows he has to be pro reason or something
- 1:58:49Speaker 1: like that. All right. Finally, finally there's a philosophy book
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: asked me to review the Academic Festival Overture by Brahms,
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: which is a ten minute piece by Brahms written and
- 1:59:10Speaker 1: I think in eighteen eighty I think it's in eighteen eighty,
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: and in particular there's a famous performance of this piece
- 1:59:19Speaker 1: by Leonard Bernstein, who is one of the great conductors
- 1:59:25Speaker 1: of the twentieth century. Not one of my favorites, but
- 1:59:28Speaker 1: still a great conductor of the twentieth century. This is
- 1:59:33Speaker 1: a beautiful piece. This is my music. This is the
- 1:59:36Speaker 1: music I love. It's supposed to be. This is a
- 1:59:41Speaker 1: piece of music written by Brahms for university in thanks
- 1:59:48Speaker 1: for the fact that they gave him an honorary doctorate.
- 1:59:53Speaker 1: But it's not the kind of piece of the university
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: probably expected, because it is a piece that basically takes
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: drinking songs, kind of German university drinking pub drinking songs,
- 2:00:08Speaker 1: I think four of them, and weaves them together into
- 2:00:12Speaker 1: an orchestral ten minute piece. It's it's got this tension
- 2:00:19Speaker 1: between being a little formal and and a little standoffish
- 2:00:29Speaker 1: and revelatory. And drinking right song. And you can see
- 2:00:33Speaker 1: it in the way this video of Bernstein conducted this,
- 2:00:37Speaker 1: which I encourage you to watch. It's a lot of fun.
- 2:00:40Speaker 1: You can see it in the way he conducts the
- 2:00:42Speaker 1: parts where he's he's holding the orchestra back, you know,
- 2:00:45Speaker 1: be a strange and then they go all wild and
- 2:00:47Speaker 1: that's more of the drinking stuff. And it's it really
- 2:00:53Speaker 1: is a joyous and interesting piece. I mean, this is
- 2:00:57Speaker 1: what great music is like. It has, it evokes a
- 2:01:04Speaker 1: number of different emotions. It changes pace, it's got different melodies,
- 2:01:12Speaker 1: you know, weaving one into the other. It is just
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: a it's entertaining. It's only ten minutes. It's entertaining, but
- 2:01:20Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's driven, it evokes strong emotions, it's complex.
- 2:01:27Speaker 1: The fact that you've got a whole orchestra means that
- 2:01:30Speaker 1: you can elicit a whole variety of different sounds out
- 2:01:34Speaker 1: of them. There's the wind instruments and the violins and
- 2:01:37Speaker 1: the basses and the It really is a fun piece.
- 2:01:41Speaker 1: I encourage you to watch it ten minutes. If you're
- 2:01:43Speaker 1: not into classical music, this is a good piece to
- 2:01:47Speaker 1: you know, uh, one of many to introduce yourself to it,
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: particularly if you watch the video and it's it's it's
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: not a not a bad way to uh, to get
- 2:01:59Speaker 1: a little, a little piece of it. Yeah, I mean
- 2:02:04Speaker 1: people have identified the four songs. You can there are
- 2:02:07Speaker 1: elements from in the melody of all four songs that
- 2:02:12Speaker 1: that are included in there. It's called the Academic Festival Overture,
- 2:02:20Speaker 1: which was a celebratory orchestra work by Johann Brahms. It's uh.
- 2:02:27Speaker 1: It was described by the composer as quote boisterous Pott
- 2:02:31Speaker 1: Perrie of student drinking songs. Fun. All right, those I
- 2:02:40Speaker 1: think I'm I think I've done all the song reviews.
- 2:02:43Speaker 1: If you have asked me to do a song review
- 2:02:45Speaker 1: and i've it's and I've not done it yet, then
- 2:02:48Speaker 1: I'm missing it and you're gonna have to remind me
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- 2:04:18Speaker 1: because you are paying me. That's the way it is,
- 2:04:22Speaker 1: all right, Michael. Is a two part question, Thank you, Michael.
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: Are people able to hold a contient epistemology because they
- 2:04:29Speaker 1: don't really hold it? Because you can't. It's just a
- 2:04:32Speaker 1: game of moving woods around, for gotcha. Whereas the people
- 2:04:36Speaker 1: who gravitated towards objectivesm have actually attempted to apply different
- 2:04:40Speaker 1: philosophies to really see what's actually true. Well, I don't
- 2:04:48Speaker 1: know what exactly you mean by the question, So the
- 2:04:51Speaker 1: question is not that clear. People hold the content epistemology
- 2:04:56Speaker 1: by default. They haven't really learned to think. They've been
- 2:05:03Speaker 1: told that reality maybe exists, maybe doesn't, not to take
- 2:05:06Speaker 1: it too seriously. They haven't been taught kant, they haven't
- 2:05:11Speaker 1: been taught to contient epistemology. They've been taught, more likely skepticism.
- 2:05:18Speaker 1: They've been taught not to trust their mind, not to
- 2:05:22Speaker 1: trust reality, not to particularly put any waiting on facts
- 2:05:29Speaker 1: versus emotions. But that's not because they've been taught at
- 2:05:34Speaker 1: content in pistology. Those are the consequences of contents postroology
- 2:05:38Speaker 1: ultimately as filtered through many many thinkers on the way.
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: Or they've been taught kind of postmodernism, which is there
- 2:05:46Speaker 1: is no absolute anything, there's no real reality, there's just
- 2:05:51Speaker 1: or they've been taught the kind of linguistic analysis it's
- 2:05:53Speaker 1: just would play. So they've been taught all kinds of
- 2:05:59Speaker 1: weird deface the philosophies that are basically undermined the capacity
- 2:06:04Speaker 1: to think. So what that manifests itself in is primarily skepticism, emotionalism,
- 2:06:13Speaker 1: and inability to use their mind, and inability and lack
- 2:06:18Speaker 1: of interest in using their mind. So again it's not
- 2:06:23Speaker 1: like people hold and a pistemology. They don't. They hold
- 2:06:26Speaker 1: a particular way of using their minds that has been
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: shaped by views of pistemology that they have been and
- 2:06:33Speaker 1: they've been taught this way of using their mind, in
- 2:06:36Speaker 1: this case, not using their minds, and that's what they've
- 2:06:39Speaker 1: absorbed and integrated and that's how they live. Thank you,
- 2:06:48Speaker 1: Michael Paul Ferris finally live on YouTube. Intel is a
- 2:06:57Speaker 1: cony company making it making it second in hand, therefore
- 2:07:01Speaker 1: inferior because it does not have the pressure of competition
- 2:07:05Speaker 1: to make a superior product. And to do tariffs have
- 2:07:08Speaker 1: a similar make a superior product? And do tariffs have
- 2:07:12Speaker 1: a similar effect? Yes, to have do exactly the same thing.
- 2:07:15Speaker 1: They protect domestic industries that then don't have an incentive
- 2:07:20Speaker 1: to become more and more efficient. They sit on their
- 2:07:23Speaker 1: lawrels because they know they're protected. Nobody's going to buy
- 2:07:27Speaker 1: imported goods because they're too expensive. They can raise prices
- 2:07:31Speaker 1: or most to the level of the external products plus
- 2:07:35Speaker 1: the tariff, and they can stay inefficient and unproductive, and
- 2:07:39Speaker 1: over time that becomes culsified and becomes worse. Intel is
- 2:07:47Speaker 1: being subsidized and protected by the American government since the
- 2:07:50Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, and while it's gone through bouts of innovation
- 2:07:55Speaker 1: like in the late eighties early nineties, it is mostly
- 2:07:59Speaker 1: atrophied and the innovation has been at TCMC and not
- 2:08:06Speaker 1: or even at AMD. Intel's competitive domestically or at Nvidia.
- 2:08:12Speaker 1: Think about the fact that Intel completely missed AI chips.
- 2:08:18Speaker 1: AMD did not. AMD is a competitor the Nvidia. Invidia
- 2:08:22Speaker 1: dominates that space, but all the innovative chip designs are
- 2:08:26Speaker 1: made outside of Intel, and all the innovative fabrication of
- 2:08:32Speaker 1: chips is made outside of Intel. Intel is one of
- 2:08:34Speaker 1: the only country companies in the world that does both
- 2:08:37Speaker 1: design and fabrication. And that's not a good model. That's
- 2:08:40Speaker 1: a model that's been shown time and time and time
- 2:08:44Speaker 1: again not to be productive, not to be a good
- 2:08:52Speaker 1: way of doing things. So but that's what taos do.
- 2:09:01Speaker 1: They protect industries. In Intel's case, going back to the
- 2:09:06Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, they had quotas and Japanese micro processes coming
- 2:09:12Speaker 1: in memory chips in those days coming into the United
- 2:09:14Speaker 1: States or to protect the Intel, and now the United
- 2:09:19Speaker 1: States and the chip back gave them a huge subsidy.
- 2:09:22Speaker 1: And now Trump has taken a government has taken a
- 2:09:25Speaker 1: ten percent interesting Intel, which basically guarantees it won't go bankrupt.
- 2:09:30Speaker 1: So you've got a massive misallocation of capital as a consequence.
- 2:09:35Speaker 1: And taaros are just another form of intervention in the economy,
- 2:09:39Speaker 1: another form in which you distort the economy, another form
- 2:09:42Speaker 1: in which you create misallocations of capital in the economy.
- 2:09:45Speaker 1: So they're just as destructive. Thank you, Paul. All Right,
- 2:09:58Speaker 1: let's see Linda asked yesterday, but I didn't answer. What
- 2:10:12Speaker 1: do you think about requiring politicians to be educated? AOC
- 2:10:16Speaker 1: comes to mind. I don't think it makes any difference.
- 2:10:19Speaker 1: I mean, you've got very educated politicians who are just
- 2:10:22Speaker 1: as bad as AOCO is not particularly bad. It's the
- 2:10:30Speaker 1: problem with politicians is not their miseducation. It's their philosophy.
- 2:10:36Speaker 1: It's their corruption. It's their lack of ability to think.
- 2:10:39Speaker 1: It's their pragmatism, it's their selling out to pressure groups.
- 2:10:45Speaker 1: It's not that they don't know stuff that can be fixed.
- 2:10:51Speaker 1: But it's not like eoc is open to being educated.
- 2:10:54Speaker 1: And think about some of the more educated people there
- 2:10:57Speaker 1: are just as bad as the less educated people like
- 2:11:00Speaker 1: Elizabeth Wowna is very educated. Scott it she's a she's
- 2:11:04Speaker 1: a law professor. Doesn't help. Catherine says, I hope you
- 2:11:11Speaker 1: read with us i man essay in the members only
- 2:11:15Speaker 1: show soon again. I enjoyed reading the missing link. Yeah,
- 2:11:18Speaker 1: I will. And by the way, we also did Selfishness
- 2:11:22Speaker 1: without a Self. If you missed that show, it's in
- 2:11:24Speaker 1: the members section and you can catch up with it
- 2:11:27Speaker 1: over there. Let me just see something so Raphael says,
- 2:11:44Speaker 1: I saw Benzo Gozzoli's triumph of Thomas Aquinas at the Louver.
- 2:11:54Speaker 1: I thought the main battle was against Augustinian Platonism, but
- 2:11:59Speaker 1: in the painting of Veronese is defeated, representing another form
- 2:12:04Speaker 1: of Aristotle. That's quite possible, But what it could represent
- 2:12:10Speaker 1: is a shallow understanding of the whole thing, which means
- 2:12:13Speaker 1: it really is Christianity defeating Islam, rather than two Ristotilians
- 2:12:22Speaker 1: battling it out. And that wouldn't be surprising, right because
- 2:12:26Speaker 1: the painter probably didn't understand the sense in which what
- 2:12:30Speaker 1: made Aristotle, which made a Quinas and a very ease
- 2:12:35Speaker 1: is so significant, was Aristotle. So I'm not surprised that
- 2:12:44Speaker 1: they saw it in a most superficial way, which is
- 2:12:47Speaker 1: Augustine as a Christian, as a Muslim. It represents the
- 2:12:52Speaker 1: victory of Christianity over Islam. Now, I remember that you
- 2:12:57Speaker 1: know a Quinas read read all of a veryin is
- 2:13:03Speaker 1: an he is. Much of his understanding of abistol comes
- 2:13:07Speaker 1: from a virins villain is. So the issue of Islam
- 2:13:14Speaker 1: versus Christianity is insignificant in the big picture, Lyn, thank you.
- 2:13:20Speaker 1: Does dissonant and disjointed classical music reflect the composer's negative
- 2:13:25Speaker 1: sense of life, that is Schoenberg's Pierrot Luniel or Shostakovich's
- 2:13:30Speaker 1: Quotet number eight. I mean, I think it's more than that.
- 2:13:35Speaker 1: I think it reflects a rejection of reality in some sense,
- 2:13:42Speaker 1: a rejection suddenly of because it's not just you can
- 2:13:48Speaker 1: have a bad sense of light, but just produce still
- 2:13:51Speaker 1: produce beautiful music that's just dark and malevolent. This is
- 2:13:56Speaker 1: worse than that. This is rejecting beauty, its rejecting the
- 2:13:59Speaker 1: essence of music. It's creating non music in a sense.
- 2:14:03Speaker 1: I think dissonant and disjointed is non music. Some of
- 2:14:09Speaker 1: it voted lines a noise rather than music. So I
- 2:14:12Speaker 1: think it's much more than just a negative sense of life.
- 2:14:15Speaker 1: It's an explicit, conscious rejection a beauty. And yeah, I
- 2:14:23Speaker 1: said this of the essence of what music is and
- 2:14:25Speaker 1: what makes music. It's a rejection of melody, it's a
- 2:14:28Speaker 1: rejection of harmony. It's a rejection of beauty. Steven says,
- 2:14:33Speaker 1: in our voluntary tax system, can there be transaction fees
- 2:14:37Speaker 1: or other kinds of fees involved in selling your property? Yes, absolutely,
- 2:14:42Speaker 1: to the extent that you needed registered with the government,
- 2:14:45Speaker 1: or the extent that the government needs to be a
- 2:14:47Speaker 1: gaven tour in some way or another. Then various fees
- 2:14:51Speaker 1: and contracts on various types of contracts is a good
- 2:14:54Speaker 1: way for the government to be raising revenue. Yes, I
- 2:14:57Speaker 1: think that's a major way in which the government raises
- 2:14:59Speaker 1: revenue in a voluntary tax system. Michael, do you know
- 2:15:04Speaker 1: if Jepizis is Red Rand a fan? I don't bet.
- 2:15:07Speaker 1: I suspect he has. I suspect he's Red Rand. I
- 2:15:11Speaker 1: don't know if he's a fan, but but I'm pretty
- 2:15:13Speaker 1: sure he's red her. Uh. Kiki is Adamson a trader
- 2:15:19Speaker 1: forgetting Polar pardoned? No any more than anybody else is
- 2:15:23Speaker 1: a is a trader for getting somebody pardoned. Uh. Polar spied,
- 2:15:29Speaker 1: but he spied for an ally. That is a lot
- 2:15:33Speaker 1: less bad than spying for an enemy. Uh. And you know, uh,
- 2:15:40Speaker 1: Trump pardons people every day who've done worse for this
- 2:15:43Speaker 1: country than than Poulard, Who've stolen your money, who've who've
- 2:15:49Speaker 1: defrauded you on a massive scale. You know, who tried
- 2:15:53Speaker 1: to overturn an election January sixth. So all pardons, all
- 2:15:58Speaker 1: the pardons that I've seen, have been not all, almost
- 2:16:03Speaker 1: all of them have been horrific and awful. Pallard is
- 2:16:07Speaker 1: just one more that you can add to the list,
- 2:16:09Speaker 1: but not any worse than most of the other partners
- 2:16:13Speaker 1: I've seen. Steven, how do you explain all the economists
- 2:16:19Speaker 1: who sent a letter to Congress asking them to raise
- 2:16:22Speaker 1: them in the wage. There are a lot of really
- 2:16:24Speaker 1: bad economists, a lot of really bad economists who now
- 2:16:29Speaker 1: some of them are willing to accept the tradeoff. And
- 2:16:33Speaker 1: the trade off is that some people make more money
- 2:16:39Speaker 1: and some people will never have a job. And since
- 2:16:42Speaker 1: we have a welfare state. They're willing to accept that
- 2:16:44Speaker 1: some people remaine on welfare and will never have a job.
- 2:16:48Speaker 1: Those are the least skill peoples in our economy, and
- 2:16:53Speaker 1: they're willing to take that trade off. I remember Jennet
- 2:16:55Speaker 1: Yellen writing an ourbed basically acknowledging that trade off and
- 2:17:00Speaker 1: in the end coming out on the side of yeah,
- 2:17:02Speaker 1: it's better to have them in a ways than that one,
- 2:17:06Speaker 1: given a complete understanding of the consequences, and I think
- 2:17:10Speaker 1: these economists understand the consequence dosn't are willing to live
- 2:17:13Speaker 1: with them. I think they're evil and wrong, but it's
- 2:17:16Speaker 1: not that they don't get the economics. They understand that
- 2:17:19Speaker 1: raising the minimum wage reduces employment. Blue Soil. I was
- 2:17:27Speaker 1: going to buy a trip to Puerto Verota in Mexico today.
- 2:17:32Speaker 1: Good thing I didn't. With the violence today, What do
- 2:17:34Speaker 1: you think Mexico does about the dark hotel problem? Similarly
- 2:17:39Speaker 1: to El Salvador, Love the show, No, they're not going
- 2:17:42Speaker 1: to do El Salvador. I mean what they're doing is
- 2:17:45Speaker 1: performative what's called performative virtue signaling. They're trying to keep
- 2:17:50Speaker 1: the Trump administration at bay. This administration in Mexico has
- 2:17:54Speaker 1: no interest in taking on the drug hotels. It's too
- 2:17:57Speaker 1: violent and too difficult for them. And you know, most
- 2:18:03Speaker 1: of the drug problems really in the United States, not
- 2:18:05Speaker 1: in Mexico. But the drug cataels do kill a lot
- 2:18:08Speaker 1: of politicians and are too powerful. The torop administration is
- 2:18:13Speaker 1: making noises about maybe sending troops into Mexico or drones
- 2:18:19Speaker 1: or bombing Mexico, whatever, unless Mexico does something about the cartels.
- 2:18:24Speaker 1: So Mexico seems to be doing some stuff. So today
- 2:18:27Speaker 1: killed the leader of the most violence of the cartels,
- 2:18:31Speaker 1: and as a consequence is massive violence erupted in parts
- 2:18:36Speaker 1: of Mexico. But you know nothing, They're not gonna do
- 2:18:42Speaker 1: what else Alvado did. Uh, And the cartels are not
- 2:18:47Speaker 1: going anyway. The cartels will still exist tomorrow, and in
- 2:18:51Speaker 1: a year from now, and in five years from now.
- 2:18:53Speaker 1: As long as drugs are illegal, there will be cartaels. Stephen,
- 2:18:57Speaker 1: would you comment commend Roberts for clear logical writing. Yeah,
- 2:19:01Speaker 1: I think he did a good job. Did you understand
- 2:19:03Speaker 1: epa versus West Virginia? Can you explain that case and
- 2:19:07Speaker 1: how it differs from learning resources. I'll just say I'm
- 2:19:12Speaker 1: not going to get into a whole analysis in it.
- 2:19:14Speaker 1: For now, that would require a whole show, and it
- 2:19:17Speaker 1: require bringing in a legal expert. But the basic idea
- 2:19:20Speaker 1: is that the EPA doesn't get a make up the rules.
- 2:19:27Speaker 1: That is that it can only do what Congress has
- 2:19:32Speaker 1: told it to do. It cannot rely on its own
- 2:19:37Speaker 1: experts too, you know, intero. But the law, the law
- 2:19:44Speaker 1: has to be clear and set. That is in judges
- 2:19:48Speaker 1: have in the past because of Chevron, this is the
- 2:19:51Speaker 1: nineteen eighties case, the courts were basically told to defer
- 2:19:57Speaker 1: to the agencies in terms of interpretation of the law.
- 2:20:02Speaker 1: And what EPAFSS Junior basically says is it brings the
- 2:20:06Speaker 1: courts back in to interpret the law and to basically
- 2:20:11Speaker 1: see where the agencies.
- 2:20:12Speaker 3: Are going beyond what actual the law actually says and
- 2:20:19Speaker 3: taking on more power than the law is actually granted them.
- 2:20:29Speaker 1: Real spuck, can you return tariff dollars by giving irs
- 2:20:33Speaker 1: tax credits?
- 2:20:35Speaker 3: No?
- 2:20:35Speaker 1: Because well maybe for some corporations in corporate taxes, you
- 2:20:42Speaker 1: could do something like that, I guess, but it's not
- 2:20:44Speaker 1: going to be to individuals. They're not attorney talists to
- 2:20:47Speaker 1: the individuals. The returning talists to the companies who paid them,
- 2:20:51Speaker 1: and the individuals are never going to see those even
- 2:20:54Speaker 1: though ultimately the individuals paid, because the companies just raid
- 2:20:58Speaker 1: prices on the individuals. So it's exporters will basically build
- 2:21:03Speaker 1: the government for it, and you know the government will
- 2:21:07Speaker 1: maybe through the taxes that may the other way, we'll
- 2:21:09Speaker 1: refund them the taves. All right, Michael says, have you
- 2:21:13Speaker 1: ever got a question during Q and A that has
- 2:21:15Speaker 1: changed your mind on a subject? No? I've got a
- 2:21:19Speaker 1: lot of questions that have got me to think more
- 2:21:22Speaker 1: deeply about a question, But I can't remember any specific
- 2:21:25Speaker 1: case where actually changed my mind or something. Maybe it's happened,
- 2:21:28Speaker 1: but I can't remember. Real Spock, Ukraine hit Russia missiles today?
- 2:21:33Speaker 1: Please comment, I can't because I don't know. I haven't
- 2:21:37Speaker 1: seen it. Ukraine hits Russian missiles on a regular basis.
- 2:21:42Speaker 1: Ukraine is becoming much better at hurting Russia and attacking Russia.
- 2:21:47Speaker 1: So but this particular one, I just don't know. Because
- 2:21:53Speaker 1: I wasn't watching the news today because I wasn't about
- 2:21:57Speaker 1: to do a news show today, so I didn't too
- 2:22:00Speaker 1: much attention to use this morning. It was busy doing
- 2:22:03Speaker 1: other stuff. Whoops, what did I do? They tried to
- 2:22:09Speaker 1: do something and it didn't work. One second. Give me
- 2:22:11Speaker 1: a minute. Let's see Ukraine hits Russian ballistic missiles producer.
- 2:22:24Speaker 1: According to Kiev Ukraine. Oh, this is the interesting thing.
- 2:22:30Speaker 1: These are Flamingo missiles. These are grounder ground missiles produced
- 2:22:35Speaker 1: by the Ukrainians, built by the Ukrainians. They used a
- 2:22:38Speaker 1: Flamingo missile to hilt a Russian plant manufacturing ballistic missiles
- 2:22:43Speaker 1: in Russia's remote southern region, which means quite a distance
- 2:22:48Speaker 1: fourteen hundred kilometers eight hundred miles. So this is a
- 2:22:52Speaker 1: proof of concept. They're proving their ability to use they
- 2:22:57Speaker 1: domestically produced flamingo missile to hit deep into Russian territory.
- 2:23:04Speaker 1: These are the kind of missiles the United States has
- 2:23:06Speaker 1: refused to sell the Ukrainians, and now they're producing them themselves,
- 2:23:12Speaker 1: which is pretty amazing. And they hit a factory that
- 2:23:19Speaker 1: actually also produces Russian nuclear missiles, so great, good for
- 2:23:25Speaker 1: the Ukrainians. It's a good step. It's a good move,
- 2:23:28Speaker 1: and it shows how Ukraine has improved and advanced its
- 2:23:33Speaker 1: fighting capacity and if with the right support, could actually
- 2:23:37Speaker 1: defeat the Russians. All right, let's with like seventy five
- 2:23:43Speaker 1: dollars short of a goal, but just stickers now because
- 2:23:46Speaker 1: I don't have time to answer questions because I have
- 2:23:49Speaker 1: a hard stop in like ten minutes. John says, this
- 2:23:53Speaker 1: seemed to be a growing movement against data centers. Have
- 2:23:56Speaker 1: you been following this, Yes, there is. It drives up
- 2:24:00Speaker 1: at elecricity costs because it uses so much power. Supposedly
- 2:24:04Speaker 1: they use up a lot of water, so there's water constraints.
- 2:24:08Speaker 1: And of course there's just an opposition to AI more
- 2:24:12Speaker 1: broadly in the opposition to industrialization and the opposition of
- 2:24:17Speaker 1: data said, it comes both from the green left, from environmentalists,
- 2:24:22Speaker 1: and from MAGA, who is very skeptical of AI. But
- 2:24:27Speaker 1: it's not surprising anytime there's a big advance. Anytime you
- 2:24:32Speaker 1: actually want to build manufacturing or any kind of other
- 2:24:36Speaker 1: capacity in the United States, people push back against you.
- 2:24:42Speaker 1: This is part of the myth of the reindustrialization of America.
- 2:24:46Speaker 1: Part of the reason why we don't have a lot
- 2:24:48Speaker 1: of manufacturing in America is because of the environmental regulations
- 2:24:50Speaker 1: that were passed because people objected the industrialization. Part of
- 2:24:54Speaker 1: the reason we don't manufacture rare earth materials in the
- 2:24:57Speaker 1: United States. The entire reason we don't is because of regulations.
- 2:25:01Speaker 1: The restrict mining and restrict building of factories to refine
- 2:25:04Speaker 1: the railroad materials. So it's it's all self inflicted. And
- 2:25:11Speaker 1: you know that's what people kind of ignore, Michael. Instead
- 2:25:16Speaker 1: of making home affordable, Donny proposers stealing more from homeowners
- 2:25:20Speaker 1: through property taxes. Socialism at its finest. Yes, the property
- 2:25:24Speaker 1: taxes go up, Rents will go up, not down. Housing
- 2:25:28Speaker 1: will become less affordable, not more. Of course then home uh.
- 2:25:33Speaker 1: You know, owners of big apartment buildings will go bankrupt.
- 2:25:37Speaker 1: The city will take them over, and it's a way
- 2:25:40Speaker 1: for Mamdani to nationalize the stock of housing in New
- 2:25:43Speaker 1: York City. With all the disasters that will lead to Romans.
- 2:25:49Speaker 1: Should they be trade restrictions against countries with slave labor?
- 2:25:55Speaker 1: Not necessarily, You as an individual should not buy goods
- 2:26:01Speaker 1: way you know the goods were made by slave labor.
- 2:26:04Speaker 1: It's not the government's job to protect you and to
- 2:26:07Speaker 1: prevent you from doing something imol. It's emol to buy
- 2:26:10Speaker 1: goods from slave labor. But that's your responsibility as an
- 2:26:14Speaker 1: individual not to do it, not the government's responsibility to
- 2:26:17Speaker 1: protect you from yourself. Michael I noticed Indians are getting
- 2:26:22Speaker 1: some of the same hate as Jews. Yes, successful minorities,
- 2:26:25Speaker 1: yet no other group have a larger net positive contribution
- 2:26:29Speaker 1: to society. I don't know what a net positive contribution
- 2:26:32Speaker 1: to society is. That's kind of a collectivistic terminology that
- 2:26:38Speaker 1: we don't use. In the Iran books show they make
- 2:26:41Speaker 1: a lot of money, they're massive contributors to themselves, and
- 2:26:45Speaker 1: they're not a drain on the government. So yeah, they
- 2:26:49Speaker 1: hate it, just like the Jews, like any successful minority
- 2:26:52Speaker 1: is hated. They're different and they're successful, which breeds resentment
- 2:26:57Speaker 1: and envy. Stephen, thanks, thank you for the sticker, Paul,
- 2:27:01Speaker 1: Thank you for the sticker, Stephen. As a last question,
- 2:27:04Speaker 1: are there any sane and modern Islami countries today, for
- 2:27:07Speaker 1: that matter, any relatively sane and rights suspecting countries at all? No?
- 2:27:12Speaker 1: I mean the better Islami countries like Albania, which is
- 2:27:16Speaker 1: dominantly Muslim but very secular and a very secular government.
- 2:27:23Speaker 1: Bosnia is probably the same thing, Kosovo Azerbaijan is secular
- 2:27:30Speaker 1: but a dictatorship. Those other ones at least free countries.
- 2:27:33Speaker 1: But no, there's no rights respecting country. Singapore maybe to
- 2:27:37Speaker 1: some extent, but not other respects. There's no rights respecting
- 2:27:43Speaker 1: in any kind of big way in the world today.
- 2:27:47Speaker 1: Sadly all right, everybody, thank you, I appreciate it. After run,
- 2:27:53Speaker 1: I will see you all tomorrow. We've got two shows tomorrow,
- 2:27:56Speaker 1: a new show early. It'll be at twelve pm Eastern Time,
- 2:28:03Speaker 1: twelve pm Eastern Time, and then I'm interviewing Tara Smith
- 2:28:08Speaker 1: at seven pm Eastern Time. So Tara Smith tomorrow at
- 2:28:11Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern Time, and then you showed at twelve
- 2:28:14Speaker 1: pm Eastern time. And thank you to all the super chatters.
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