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#619 - Wildchild on His New Album, Likwit Crew Legacy, Working With Madlib & MF DOOM · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Who black Cap Podcast man special guests in here og
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  Speaker 1: wild Child you already know y'all might know him as
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  Speaker 1: a part of the legendary Loop. Pat just dropped your
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  Speaker 1: new album, Child of a Kingsman August, Yeah, August twenty second. Man,
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  Speaker 1: and you've been running around all year? When did the
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  Speaker 1: tour end with Murders Overseas?
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  Speaker 2: We ended like first week of December? Oh after a
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  Speaker 2: month long? Guess got back? Yeah? Man, just got back.
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  Speaker 2: A whole month was out there? Man? What is like?
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  Speaker 1: Because I feel like, for whatever reason, like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like overseas they appreciate like real hip hop monk since.
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  Speaker 2: That you know what I think? When you see things
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  Speaker 2: from Afar and you don't get it, you don't get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it thrown at you. I think the
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  Speaker 2: level of appreciation is there, to be honest, all the
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  Speaker 2: years I've ever toured, I always keep hearing people say
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  Speaker 2: their appreciation is still there.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like they don't take they
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  Speaker 1: never take it for right. I think that's I think
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  Speaker 1: right here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much. Well it all pulled. It all
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  Speaker 2: boils down.
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  Speaker 1: To what is like the coolest city? Do you think
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  Speaker 1: you guys went to over there in terms of just
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  Speaker 1: like reaction and crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Portugal Lisbon, Yeah, Lisbon in Portugal. Yeah, that was like because,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest, that was my first time mad lib
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  Speaker 2: Rome's as a louppac. We never played out there. We've
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  Speaker 2: played places that were near where people would travel from
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  Speaker 2: Portugal to come there. So when we happened to land
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  Speaker 2: there this time, I had people coming up saying, twenty
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  Speaker 2: some years ago I flew or went over to this
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  Speaker 2: area to go see you guys. So to see you
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  Speaker 2: in my home city is like bananas, And that was
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  Speaker 2: like probably the most welcomed area that we went to.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder for you, Like, uh, there's there was like
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  Speaker 1: a such an incredible La Southern California like underground movement
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  Speaker 1: in the nineties and like early two thousands you got
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  Speaker 1: you guys, Dilate J five shit, Calie Agents, shouts to
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  Speaker 1: Roscoe and Planet Asia and there's just so much incredible,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, just dope underground shit going on in LA.
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  Speaker 1: It was almost like this whole other world out here,
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  Speaker 1: like you everyone else here's about gangs, the rap, but
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  Speaker 1: there was this other thing going on in LA. What
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  Speaker 1: was that era? Like, man, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It was just inspiring because we just loved music. I
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  Speaker 2: got Roams, who's like the vinyl collector of music, mad Lib,
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  Speaker 2: who's always digging for records and jazz and educating me
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  Speaker 2: on that and funk. Then I also have my uncles
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  Speaker 2: who always educated. One was like a bee boy, the
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  Speaker 2: other was like a record collector, which a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people don't know. He was trading records with Madly before
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  Speaker 2: I even met Mahadlib, which is funny. But that vibe
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  Speaker 2: that era was just dope because I remember when every
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  Speaker 2: time a release would come out, we would always be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we know this album is dropping, mad if you be
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  Speaker 2: the one to buy the album, and we all just
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  Speaker 2: sit and vibe it.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it used to be. People don't understand, like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like who's who, Yeah, who's bye. We used
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  Speaker 2: to literally flip, you know, head rock paper says all right, boom,
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  Speaker 2: and what we would do is we would take that
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  Speaker 2: album and use it as our daily soundtrack to wherever
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  Speaker 2: we're driving at the time. We used to dance on
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  Speaker 2: Soul Trade, so we would roll up to Soul Train
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  Speaker 2: listening to that, or we'd be rolling out to Santa Barbara,
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  Speaker 2: which is where we used to you know, live at
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  Speaker 2: the radio station there, and all we would do is
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: either play a new release Madams B tape or Far
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  Speaker 2: Side Freestyle Fellowship on repeat. Yeah, you know, but every
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  Speaker 2: time there was always something dope we noticed about each album.
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  Speaker 2: We studied the lyrics, studied the beats, who's producing what,
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  Speaker 2: who's featured on what, and it was just inspiration. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I worked at a record store at the time too,
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  Speaker 2: so it was like in Ox Start, that's where the Licks.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I met the Licks. They came in and
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  Speaker 2: me and now they came in. They actually came in
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  Speaker 2: to look at their first single with King t got
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  Speaker 2: a bad y'all. Yeah, a lot of people don't know.
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  Speaker 2: They came to peep out what was there. And I
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  Speaker 2: didn't really talk that much. I said like the worst
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  Speaker 2: things you could ever say. But instead of playing the
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  Speaker 2: music that I was supposed to play in the store,
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  Speaker 2: I was playing the CDP demo, the lou Packed demo,
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  Speaker 2: And that was pretty much how we the Loupack and
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  Speaker 2: the Licks made the connection, ended up the end up
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  Speaker 2: on the album and turned the party out with on
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  Speaker 2: the twenty one and over. That's how we linked that
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  Speaker 2: with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was like a
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  Speaker 2: weird you know, progress at that point. But there was
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  Speaker 2: just so much inspiration going on, different people doing stuff,
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  Speaker 2: or there was rumbles of new people coming out the licks,
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  Speaker 2: which that was the first time we're hearing the the
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  Speaker 2: name the alcoholics Wu Tang when no one even knew
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  Speaker 2: who Wu Tang was. Yeah, the far I mad Cap
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  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. But it was inspiration, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: And and I would still myself go to a lot
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  Speaker 2: of B boy events, so I was heavily engulfed in
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  Speaker 2: the dance at that same time too.
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  Speaker 1: was uh being around Doom? Like, Oh, that was bananas because, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you're in mad Villainy, which is yeah, some people would
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  Speaker 1: consider it like a top ten some people got to
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  Speaker 1: hire than that. Like depending on who you ask, it's
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  Speaker 1: like one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is, but you're on that. So that
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  Speaker 1: was a crazy pocket of Like obviously fast forward a bit,
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  Speaker 1: but what was it like working with dooman kind of
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  Speaker 1: being around during the creation of that body of work?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I was a fan and I'm still a fan
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  Speaker 2: Recipees Doom respect to his family. It was just crazy
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  Speaker 2: because like when I got that bat signal from mad
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  Speaker 2: Lib to come through, I was really busy with my son,
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  Speaker 2: who was an acting or attempting to get into acting
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  Speaker 2: at that time. So it was one of those things
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  Speaker 2: where like now, if you call someone, y'all want to
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  Speaker 2: do a song, right, and if you say, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: busy this week, maybe we could do next week. Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, it was like you get that car, You're like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I'm there. I'll be there for forty five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: But when when we're doing what was dope is. I
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: remember before we even got to the concept of the joint,
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: we went out to just to celebrate and I was
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: doing I think I was doing a solo documentary at
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: the time, the Wilden You where he gave me a
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: shot out on there and we started talking about the song.
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  Speaker 2: But he was like, ya, I just want to go
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  Speaker 2: out and hang out to celebrate. I'm not really the
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: avid drinker. I wasn't really clubbing like that. But we
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  Speaker 2: went to go cool out with Doom. So we go
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  Speaker 2: to this club and I remember I'm with mad libing Doom.
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  Speaker 2: But what tripped me out was while everyone's in the
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  Speaker 2: club that are normally naturally used to seeing Loupac be
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  Speaker 2: there and greet us or whatnot, I see other people
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  Speaker 2: like a Charlie Tuna. I think I see my brother
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  Speaker 2: Jay from X Clan, and people coming up talking about
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  Speaker 2: the lou Pac and this and this and that and
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: times just going on. And the whole time Doom's standing
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  Speaker 2: like right next to me without a mask on, and
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  Speaker 2: no one's even recognizing them, Like Clark Kent, you know
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  Speaker 2: that no one even recognized. So that was the only
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  Speaker 2: thing that was going through my mind. Mad It was
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: probably normal for mad Lib for them to be like that,
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  Speaker 2: but for me, I was just sitting there like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is bananas and.
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  Speaker 1: You knew you knew it was him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it was him, But like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I just never that was the first time being the
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  Speaker 2: outside world.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he didn't have the mask on, where he
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  Speaker 1: didn't have the mask on. Yeah, Loki, I was like
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  Speaker 1: his disguise.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it, man, but it was just dope.
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  Speaker 2: We did the joint and I think there's like an
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  Speaker 2: original because what I think made the album was an
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  Speaker 2: altered version which they took his vocals and threw it
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  Speaker 2: on another joint. And that's how I still ended up.
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  Speaker 2: God blessed staying on the album and then going from
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  Speaker 2: that to even performing the joint during I think Coachella
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  Speaker 2: was the first time my daughter was with me, so
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: that was her first time meeting him. But what's even
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  Speaker 2: crazy is I never told my son, who was born later,
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  Speaker 2: and it just let me know how much this music
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  Speaker 2: transcends time. Because my son's about to be twenty one now,
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: and I remember when he was about to be twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: He yells up out of nowhere, like he almost cussed
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: me out, which is funny. And I go into his room,
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: like what's wrong, and he's like, how could you not
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  Speaker 2: tell me? You know you on the Math Villain record?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, why would you even be know about
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: that record? Why would we even be having this conversation.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: About that pocket Because my kid's nineteen and him and
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: all his friends love MF Doom.
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  Speaker 2: See that's proceeded.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: That's that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's beyond crazy.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: Like I try to put them on nas and they
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear. They're just ye doom. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: they don't they don't care about imatic, they don't care
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  Speaker 1: about thirty six. They want m F Doom.
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  Speaker 2: Dude. I took my son to a dance event that
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: we used to go to annually. He's about five years old.
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  Speaker 2: In Paris. We go to the event. The promoter say, hey,
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: now that you have your sign here, we're good. We
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: got a day off. You want to go to this concert?
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: I heard your boy is in town? Really? Who the
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: math Doom? Oh? Snap? So you know we get the
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: people calling our people their people. We get up in there,
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: but I'm like, wait, I got my cell with me,
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: is there any way that I could get him in
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: because of the age. They ended up letting him in
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: and that ended up being his first rap concert. I
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: took him to plenty concerts before, but they've always been
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: fucking soul and all that. But that was his first concert.
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  Speaker 2: Was rap concer was MF. Doom and he's b boying
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  Speaker 2: and dancing in the back, not listening obviously to the lyrics.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: But all he ever told me was one day, I
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  Speaker 2: want that mask. So I ended up getting him the mask,
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: and twenty years later he's getting mad at me that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't tell him that the Mad Villain Project even
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  Speaker 2: happened and stuff. But I just wish Doom was alive
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  Speaker 2: to see that, cause there's there's been so many instances.
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  Speaker 2: Case in point, I went to Coachella, saw this kid
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  Speaker 2: walking around all the thousands of masks he could wear,
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  Speaker 2: He's wearing an MF. Do mask. I'm like, yo, come here, man,
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: what's up with that mask? What made you wear that?
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: How old are you? Oh? I'm like sixteen? Oh, man,
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: come here real quick. So I pulled my camera. I
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: didn't even say anything. I didn't explain who I was
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: or nothing, and I'm like, yo, man, and I start recording, Yo,
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  Speaker 2: what's up your mad Lib? I need you to see
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  Speaker 2: this right now. This boy is sixteen years old. Boom
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: boom boom, and he starts naming all this stuff. But
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: I think it went over his head who I said
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: at the beginning, and he was like, wait, you're sending
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: this to mad Lip. He starts crying, Yeah, sixteen years old,
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  Speaker 2: naming all the lyrics, naming all the songs. So it's
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  Speaker 2: just stuff like that that imagine if Doom was alive
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: and he was able to see stuff like that. So
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that from you know.
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  Speaker 1: When did you realize like Madly was a genius?
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: Oh man, when mad It was a genius? I probably
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: would say, yeah, that's a good question. I think it
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: was when we used to as a crew, our CDP
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: crew and stuff, when we would record records. Most people
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  Speaker 2: when they record demos, they end up being labeled as
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: demos or whatever. When Madli would do it, he was
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: doing it as practice for all of us as MC's right.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: So he was almost like our eight oh five Oxnard
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  Speaker 2: version of Rizard, and he had a vision. He wasn't
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: really telling us. He would just be like, I need
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: to join this, jump on this. Me med jump on this.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I need to join this. You know, Kazi,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: let me have you do this, do the album. But
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't tell us what it was. When we all
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: get together and we're going out to a club or
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: a dance battle we're gonna go to, he's playing what
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: he had put together and it literally sounded like a
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  Speaker 2: full on album. He would do that almost every other week.
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  Speaker 2: That's when I knew, But I wasn't really grasping because
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  Speaker 2: it was like fun for us. We never knew because
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: we weren't looking at the future where we would go.
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  Speaker 2: So I just realized when he was doing in real
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  Speaker 2: time it was just dope.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, almost like every time you guys would get in
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  Speaker 1: a car and be like, oh shit, you took all that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly That's exactly what he would do.
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  Speaker 2: But it was just it was like he was showing
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: off how he could produce somebody's record, right. He was
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: literally from the You know, he might not have the
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: best mixes, but the rawness is what made it dope,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: to be honest. The fact that wasn't mixed made it
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: even that much dope. So when we heard mad Villain,
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a surprise. It was like, Okay, we know
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: he's been doing stuff like this, chopping up vocals, taking it,
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  Speaker 2: flipping it, making the beats in the pocket. He was
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: always been doing stuff like that. And he's just multi.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: He's well rounded in the music listening. You know, his
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: uncle was John Fattis, famous jazz players. Pops was a singer,
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: so it was it was inevitable that he would do
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: what he would, you know, end up becoming what he is.
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  Speaker 2: I've heard some stuff through the rumbles, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: when we would travel he plays something, or if he
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  Speaker 2: was DJing when we're overseas, he would throw you know,
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  Speaker 2: he'll play it so spontaneous without a warning, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and and I'll just be sitting there and I'm a fan,
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  Speaker 2: so I'll be sitting there, you know, hyping the crowd
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  Speaker 2: mic like wait, hold up, what the hell is that?
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: What you know? And it'll be something yeah that's not
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: even out, you know what I'm saying. Like case in point,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I remember him playing something with Black Dot and it
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: was just like YO, and then mac miller, you know, and.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: It's just dope and black black thought and mc miller together. No,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: it was separate, separate joints.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: And then it'll be funny because it'll be we get
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: back in the car and we're headed to the hotel. Yo.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: That point you play what's that, He'll be like like, oh, no,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: don't worry about it. Don't worry about that. You know
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's just dope because he has
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: that as a disposed as his disposal. But and and shoot,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: there was time I remember one time he was playing joints.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Crowd was bananas and he had it on the CD
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: and me and metaphor was tripping because he had the
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: CD and he took the CD and threw it at
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: the crowd.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, he threw it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: At the crowd. So anybody in the crowd would have
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: just dove and oh what, not realizing what they got.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: What he's throwing. That's like having for us or DJ's
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: a white label of something you just got, sure and
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: throw the white label out. But he threw it at
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the crowd. But it didn't go so well because he
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: threw it and then it hit the barricade of the
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: crowd and the barricade so the crowd never got access
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: to it. I'm like, what was you doing? He's like, Nah,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I was just in the moment and just for the people.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: If they like it, they like it. And then but
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: see someone like the way what's Zebra Matt, He'll do
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: be like it don't matter. By the time it comes out,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: it'll be a different version, alredmix it or do something different.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: But if you have the CD, you're like, I got.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: To yeah, you know, that's just him. He's always spontaneous.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I think the one thing that stands out with Malib
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: that makes it was an imprint on all of us
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: is he was always like, we'll do the music for
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: us to make us happy. If the people like it,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: hopefully they like it. If they don't, so be it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Do you guys feel like coming up in the eight
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: oh five, like you guys kind of just automatically have
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: a bit of a chip on your shoulder, because nah,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like Oxnard Ventura like, and we don't really
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: like I feel like we don't associate that with LA
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I know, but if you're if you're not from LA,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you just think it's all right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Now, you know what, We just had an appreciation of music.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: We we understood who the Mount rushmore of the West
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Coast was and the East Coast, and we were fans
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: still learning, still growing, wishing to collaborate and work with
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and get the respect from our peers, and but we
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: also wanted to show that we got we got that
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: energy as well to compete and with the best of them,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's just like playing basketball.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: You come from a city and you get on the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: court and you find out all these other guys and
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: what they came from. But you know, hey, give me
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the rock. I know I can handle the two. And
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: that's pretty much what we ingrained ourself. And we never
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: had a chip on our shoulder somewhere. We just we
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: just know that from Oxnard, there's not a lot of
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: artists that may or may not come out representing that.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So we always made it clear we might live in
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: LA or go to LA, but we're not from LA.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: But it's just dope because I mean, obviously time has grown.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: You see other actors come out and from there. Yeah, Yle, yeah, Kyle,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But it's just it's it's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: just bananas.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Man beautiful area too. I feel like people like venture
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: is such a vibe. Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I was watching the Prices right one time and they're like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you're gonna win a trip all expace trip expense paid
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: trip to Oxnar count for but most people know it
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: just for like the calip the Robberry Festival.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean some people know. I mean, thankfully,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Like I said, with Anderson Pack doing the album titling
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: that Oxnard that did put Now when we say where
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: are you from, we say.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Oxtend speak there in Mambo Mambo out there.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's the fan. That's the fan praying for Mambo
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: right now in this time what he's going through. But yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: but yeah, that's pretty much what we always wanted to do,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: is put any stamp we could on ox Start and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: let them know cats can do stuff on a on
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: an art level, whether it be music, dance, acting, like
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: like in case, I point my son. A lot of
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: people don't know my son Miles is from the show
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Blackish and and even what he's doing inspiring other kids
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: around the world, and a lot of these kids see
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: that and they're thinking, all we thought we had to
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: be part of the Los Angeles Hollywood audience or proud
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: to make it and so just that inspiration is just the.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Was he growing up in. Yeah, so you guys are
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: just come out here for auditions.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: We would come out to auditions, dance events and that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: was it. We drove back and forth so many times.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, Like it's.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: A hard grind man that act. I feel like the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: acting game, Like do you feel like I mean, obviously
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you're close to it because your son, like m is
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the AI thing taken away because I think eventually there's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: not going to be extras and some of these like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: background parts are just not going to exist.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's pretty scary. I don't know where it's
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: gonna go. AI. I just feel like I just feel
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: like sometimes technology might be to ahead of control, which
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's meant to be controlled, because
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: it's like when it's almost reminded me of hip hop.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It just shrum you know, when no one knew it
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: was going to go the way it went. Here comes AI.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: No one knows where it's going to go. Everyone's on
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the fearful side. You know. Now you're seeing producers being
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: rumored to be using AI to benefit them.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: So in the act, Yeah, yeah, I was talking to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: my boy and he was like, uh, who were just
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: talking to the city were using AI for sampling? Thursday,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that's right, Thursday. Yeah. He was saying that when it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: came when it comes to certain things like if they
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: want some vocal samples or something, yes, they'll they could
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: create it through this app, chop it right, and then
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about getting cleared because they're likeyo,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: we're independent. So like clearing like going to reata Franklin
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: sample or some ship like that, it's tough exactly. So
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: it's like if I can get a sample to sound
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: exactly how I want it, and then and I'm still
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: chopping it, I'm still it's kind of like a new
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: version of digging. Right, I respect that way, see that,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: because that's that's it while still being right. You know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: great artists and created.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And see that part right there is the key. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: see some people take advantage of it, become lazy and
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: then now.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: You can take a whole beat.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like it's like it's like what Prince said, what
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: do you say, what do you say? Use the computer?
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Don't let the computer you get same ship. Yeah, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you can flip it in the way you can. And
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I remember even with the executioners when they were talking
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: about that level of vinyl to Serrado, how they at
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: one time didn't like it, but feel like if you
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: control it and you could flip it in a way
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: that is beneficial but still be creative and don't lose
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the input of the talent that you got, then that's
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: dope because you're using it as a tool. But when
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: some people rely on it and now, like AI, it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: taken over people who put their heart, blood and soul
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in something, it's a different thing. And that's the thing.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: It's like, literally, it's almost reminds me of hip hop.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: They wanted hip hop to be like this, but it
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: blew up to what it is now. And things can
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: be controlled to a certain degree, to a certain degree,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: so it's like, how do you argue that point. Something
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: that's helping us move forward but it's not controlled. Is
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that a good thing or a bad thing?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: So listen, your album is out, Yes, sir go support it?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Will you guys ever do another loop pack project?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Do you think you know? This crazy thing is man?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Malid don't rap anymore. That's a lot of people don't
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: know if he stopped rapping, and they forget that. So
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: we can't really do a loop packed project. It would
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: be more or less obviously a full wild tied exactly,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: especially with Rome's involved. Crazy thing is case in point
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: New Year's twenty twenty five. He sent me after what
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: thirty years of us not really talking about it, but
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: whenever it was gonna happen, and what happened. He sends
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: me the first beat and I wake up New Year's
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Day this year, Oh snaps, that's what I think it is.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Let's roll. Because he was with me during the whole
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: process of working on the Child of a Kinsman. So
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: he was like, all right, I'll refrain from joining this
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: project and let's get going on a new one. Whenever
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: it is. I'm like, cool, whenever you Because he got
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: so much things he's juggling, I get it. Get the beat.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Five days later, his houseprinds down.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: He said, a rough year.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: So when that happened, I was just like, what is
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: God saying here? So he knows I'm always here for him.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Music ain't going to change, and that's my best. That's
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: my bro right there. So when it happens, it happens,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: and God willing, he gets back on his feet and
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: then we can give the fans what they want.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: There it is will look, we're going to have this
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: dude wrap on another YouTube video freestyle coming up, wild Child.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: The album is out go support. We can be hitting
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the road anytime soon or do you kind of resting.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Rumbling on some things that are coming up for twenty
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: six It's hard to really speak on it now, but
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I know that fans are going to be definitely excited
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: to see. But we're gonna be represented soon. Just got
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: linked up to do the Blue Note Lai.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Blue Note has been putting some dope shows together.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Man, so like I don't even like I like see
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like wait a minute, yep. Terres Martin's at the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Blue Note, yeah man, or like Killer Mike.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Or yeah, you never know. That spot is dope. Shout
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: out to Robert Glasper helping making it happen. But the Multiverse,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: which is what I call it, will be coming to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the Blue Note soon.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: There it is good ship, wild Child. Appreciate you, Brotter,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: thank you man.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Boom assass