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#11 | Can2 · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: What's going on, y'all?
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SPEAKER_01: His Hoos with Corpus Christi Originals.
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SPEAKER_01: In this podcast episode, we have the pleasure of interviewing as our guest, Freestyle Artist Canto.
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SPEAKER_01: We talk a little bit about music, music business, uh his writing style, a little bit about himself.
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SPEAKER_01: If this is something that you're interested in, stay tuned to the podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: What's going on, man?
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SPEAKER_01: How you doing?
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SPEAKER_00: Shit, what's going on, man?
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SPEAKER_00: How you doing, man?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm doing great.
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SPEAKER_01: You doing good?
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You kept on sending us some uh some videos on our TikTok page.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, let me get this dude on the podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: Hey, that's me.
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SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it, bro.
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SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it, man.
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SPEAKER_00: I like what y'all do with uh Corpus Using Originals, and um, you know, I just like to support Corpus, man.
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SPEAKER_00: 361.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you're not in corpus right now.
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SPEAKER_01: You're living you're based in uh Bryan, Texas right now?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm in college station out here, Bryan College Station.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh shit.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: Been out here for a minute, came out to school, class of 16.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, stuck around and just been doing my thing, and then my family and my brother, everybody's still back home.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh in Corpus, uh, my my little brother, we got a uh he got a pizza truck.
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SPEAKER_00: It's uh each slice of pizza out there in Corpus.
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SPEAKER_00: So um, you know, I'll be traveling back and forth from city to city, just still doing music and just going back and forth.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, Corpus is home, so you know I always go back.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure, man.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay, you gotta love it, bro.
1:21
SPEAKER_01: You gotta love it.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: Hell yeah.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: So you have so you got a degree in in business 2016.
1:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
1:29
SPEAKER_01: Are you are you using that currently like for your like your well, do you have uh aside from like uh being an artist, do you have like a main career that you're working on?
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SPEAKER_00: Or I mean is that uh so yeah, so like um uh my main stuff is music.
1:42
SPEAKER_00: I do music, and then on top of that, I also have uh with my little brother, we have like a pizza truck.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: On top of that, um, I had uh my daughter, uh, she'll be two in May, and I found out how like expensive baby stuff is.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: So um uh I started a baby boutique under her name.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: So I also have uh a baby boutique, and so I do that, and then um I do also do another little side hustle with uh hail damage, man.
2:06
SPEAKER_00: So I just use my degree to do everything, and you never know which basket's gonna be the million dollar basket.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: So I just try to put my eggs in everything and spread it out, and um that's how I just do it all, yeah.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what's up, bro.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: So you so you don't just uh uh so you have different streams of income coming in to support yourself, yes, sir.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that's pretty that's like entrepreneurship right there, bro.
2:31
SPEAKER_01: Not a lot of people do that stuff.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: Uh, do you consider yourself an entrepreneur?
2:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh man, I I I try to like I've been doing things the whole time, ever since I've been growing up, from um even with starting music when it's just like just making mixtapes and selling my mixtapes um at South by Southwest, or even at one point, man, I had a clothing company.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh, me and my brother had a clothing company called Risk.
2:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, and shh out here, I every Saturday and Sunday be out there with a backpack on my t-shirts, wearing my t-shirts, telling people, hey man, try it, this and that, look at that.
3:06
SPEAKER_00: You know, we take Venmo, PayPal, everything, you know, um, just whatever I can to make still hustle.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: And I've always been hustling.
3:13
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I find, and then, you know, and then going to school and learning a little bit more on the business and accounting side, you know, you learn how to like really make sure you manage your company and you structure things well, which helps out with music as well.
3:27
SPEAKER_00: Because um, there was a lot of things about the music business I didn't even know, even going to business school, getting a degree and all that.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: Like, there's a lot of stuff they don't teach you, and there's a lot of stuff that you just have to be hands-on.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: And the more you network, the more you talk to people, um, the more you learn.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: It really is like, you know, you you don't you don't gotta get a degree to do this, you don't gotta do that.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: It's really just going out there doing it yourself and just trying it.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, I just you know happen to go to AM and fell in love with AM and everything.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's a sub, bro.
3:58
SPEAKER_01: So, like, so you consider yourself an independent artist.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think that's very uh it's very important and it's different as opposed to like somebody trying to make it, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: And they get on somebody's record label or whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: So uh uh so how is it how is it different in that sense being an independent artist?
4:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh it it everything comes out of your pocket.
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SPEAKER_00: You pay for everything.
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SPEAKER_00: You're paying for studio time, you're paying for the music, you're paying for the rights, you're paying um for the advertisement, you're paying for the marketing, you're paying for the music placement.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, like right now, um, you can actually catch my circle and my other song working uh preaching stuff out of um Austin.
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SPEAKER_00: It's on BCS radio right now.
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SPEAKER_00: It's uh it's a satellite radio.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: Um you can go download the app.
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SPEAKER_00: My music is played on there.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, same thing with Two Hot Radio um out there in Atlanta.
4:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, then I'm also about to get played in uh in a um Arizona market.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, so to do all that, it costs money for normally a record label pays for all that, right?
5:02
SPEAKER_00: They pay for your marketing, they're gonna pay for your placement, they're gonna pay for your studio time, they pay for everything up front.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: But in the back end, if you don't know the business, that's when they recoup their money, you know, from all their streams, from all your live shows, um, from the merch they sell, from everything, you know, that's how they make their money back.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: They they give you a lot of money, but they want their money back, they're not just in the charity business.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's one thing that I've learned to like just using you, just learning business and just being as an entrepreneur, just ever growing up, like and anything from a kid just doing like lemonade stands on the corner.
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SPEAKER_00: You learn how to like you don't just spend all that money, you needed to, you know, go back into the company, you need to like get some more merch, you need to go back and do things, you need to reinvest it.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and that helps out too.
5:51
SPEAKER_00: So, um, a lot of that I I take that just from trying to sell my own CDs, my own clothes, um, from every little thing, you know.
6:00
SPEAKER_00: I just learning the falls and the fails and where I slipped up and where I could have done better.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, just doing it yourself is actually like the best way to do it.
6:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
6:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh, yeah, definitely.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: Totally.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: I can see how it's a how it's a business and how you you gotta put your money in there, and it's like yeah, man.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: Because if you're not, it's just it's just a hob.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, if not, it's just a hobby.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: And you're no different than um, if I'm gonna spend all this money to make this music, I might as well go be at a country club because I can spend the same amount of money playing golf, I can do the same amount of money going to like you know, over there, corporate screens.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: Like the corpuscre is a country club, right?
6:35
SPEAKER_00: Or uh anything like that.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: I might as well spend that money to do the same thing.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you're not recouping it, it's just a hobby.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: And so I started treating it.
6:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh there was a time where like I was just treating it like as a hobby.
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SPEAKER_00: I wasn't treating it like a business, I wasn't thinking of it as a business.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: And so uh one day, you know, one of my OGs just like really sat me down and talking, like, hey, you've got this or are you just having fun with it?
6:57
SPEAKER_00: What are you doing?
6:58
SPEAKER_00: And I literally thought about it.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: I was like, Man, I I love doing this, I love putting out music, I love entertaining.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: This is not the beginning, this is not just what I want to do.
7:07
SPEAKER_00: I want to keep doing a lot of things.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: I would love to go from from music to acting, from acting to other types of entertainment, all kinds of just to be an entertainer in general.
7:15
SPEAKER_00: But um, you got to treat it like a business because if you don't treat it like a business, they're not gonna treat you like you've taken it to business, they're gonna just treat you as a hobbyist, they're gonna treat you as somebody that doesn't know what you're doing.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: So um, you you really got to believe in yourself, you got to treat it every day as a job, and then it starts, you know, manifesting into that.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: And when you do that, and it comes back.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: And and and I mean, just as you know, like you know, Corpus Christi original started as a dream, and then so you started putting in the work and actually going out there, doing the shows, making the merch, not spending that money as soon as you get it, you know, just like oh you know, you realizing, like, hey, this is a business.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: You gotta start running it like a business, and next thing you know, man, it grows and shit.
7:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then that's how you gotta attack it.
7:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then taking as much advice as you can.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, you're getting good advice, you know what I mean?
8:03
SPEAKER_01: How to make flip that money, make it back, or whatever.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely, bro.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: Definitely, man.
8:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh, yeah, so um, so you grew up in the Crestmont area in Corpus?
8:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, I grew up uh 2713 Allen Crest, right there by the bowling, and now it's Valero.
8:19
SPEAKER_00: Um over there by Misty Winds, yeah, Misty Winds.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: All the way, yeah, yeah.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: So um I grew up down there and went to Robert Wilson Elementary, Galvine Elementary, South Park Middle School, Hamlin Middle School, and I went to Carroll High School.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: So I just grew up, yeah.
8:37
SPEAKER_00: So I grew up on the south side.
8:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh my mom was a teacher at Robert Wilson and stuff, so that's why I went over there to Hamlin and them.
8:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh so like it was just easier for her to just take me and my little brother to school than to just try to hope we get on the bus and actually go to school.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: It was a lot easier to make sure we went to class, you know.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: So how old are you guys?
8:57
SPEAKER_01: Are you close to 40 or what?
8:59
SPEAKER_00: Shit, hell no, bro.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, because I went to Robert Well, I went to Robert Wilson myself when I was in elementary.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh man, I think it was like third to fifth.
9:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, no, uh, I'll class the 06 of uh uh of Carol.
9:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
9:13
SPEAKER_00: Um so uh, you know, just shit, been in it, just doing my thing, man, just taking time to grow, and all of a sudden, man, now uh all that time and effort and all that work, man, it's just it's finally paying off.
9:25
SPEAKER_00: I'm actually getting that movement, getting that attraction, getting the shows, getting like you know, the calls and stuff.
9:31
SPEAKER_00: So uh bro, so is is that you know, it just it just on my bad.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: What are you saying, bro?
9:37
SPEAKER_01: Now, is it a mixture of people like uh calling out, like, hey, can you come play a show over here?
9:41
SPEAKER_01: Or and then and then you as well putting in the footwork, hey, can I do a show over there?
9:45
SPEAKER_00: Man, it it's yeah, it's a mixture of both.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: It's a mixture of just networking, um, and then let's say like doing shows, people seeing you, seeing how you are on stage, seeing how you interact with fans, seeing how you interact just professionally, and then like saying, Hey man, just why don't you come do a show over here?
10:00
SPEAKER_00: And then next you know, somebody else talks to you, and then yeah, it it it's it's really a mixture of both.
10:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that gets into like performance, like actual performance.
10:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man, that means a lot, bro.
10:11
SPEAKER_01: Because you can't just go up there and just pretend like it's your your how I understand that, bro.
10:16
SPEAKER_01: That's that's pretty that's big right there.
10:18
SPEAKER_01: So, do you feel yourself like working on your performances every time you perform?
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, especially like on my breathing.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, because I know I mean, you know, I'm a focus, right?
10:28
SPEAKER_00: Um like being on stage, doing a 15-20 minute set, you know, you know, jumping up and down, moving around.
10:36
SPEAKER_00: If if I just stay still, not do anything, um I I you know, yeah, I'm not gonna run out of breath, but you're not giving off that energy to the crowd.
10:46
SPEAKER_00: I love to be in the crowd's face.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: I love to be up and down as you can.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, I love to be just you know, very um animated with uh entertainment because you're paying that money to see a show.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: I want you to see a show, you know.
10:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't want you to see just a painting on the wall and you're standing there and just looking at it.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: I want you to enjoy your experience, my whole job, or how I look at entertainment or making music.
11:09
SPEAKER_00: If I can take those two or three minutes and take you out of your problems for the day, or take you out of whatever you're thinking, and you just enjoy whatever I made, if it's to make you happy, to make you sad, to make you uplifted, to make you think I did my job, and I, you know, I took you out of your element and help you clear your head for a little bit.
11:28
SPEAKER_00: And that's what it is to be an entertainer, to be an entertainer and to be in this industry is to you know entertain, it's to help people gravitate to something they could think about, help think about like not just your problems and get away from your problems.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes people think of music as you know, that is their drug to leave their fucking daily lives, their their drive or their commute to work or come home listening to music is their self-medication, you know.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: And if I can help with that process, man, I'm doing my job.
11:57
SPEAKER_01: That's cool, bro.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: Man, so it's more than just word writing words on the page.
12:01
SPEAKER_01: And do you consider yourself like a rap?
12:04
SPEAKER_01: Is it a rapper or an MC?
12:05
SPEAKER_01: Like, what do you what would you call yourself?
12:06
SPEAKER_00: Artist?
12:07
SPEAKER_00: I consider I consider myself an artist, um, because like that's the whole point of my name.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: So my name is Can too, right?
12:13
SPEAKER_00: And it came from elementary school.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: Right?
12:20
SPEAKER_00: So I took it as motivational because if I can do it, you can do it.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: If I can come from where I came from and my things that I had and I had to struggle with coming up as a child, and I could come out here and put in the work and do what I'm doing, and now being on stage and being on podcasts, doing interviews, if I can do it, you can do it.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: That's why I have the name can too.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: It's if I can, you can too.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: It's very motivational to be like, man, I'm not the only one that can just do this.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: Any you can do it too.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: Just put your mind to it, just get it, whether it's music, whether it's business, whether it's school, whether it's just you know, whatever you want to do, whatever you want to open up a taco truck, you want to open up a hot dog stand, you want to open up just like something just to sell something on the side or do whatever you want to do, right?
13:05
SPEAKER_00: Or be good at a sport, be good at golf, be good at volleyball, anything.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: Put your mind to it and you can do it.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: So if I can do it, you can do it.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: So if I can, you can't too.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the whole point of my name.
13:16
SPEAKER_00: It's be motivational, uplift people, help them.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then at the same time, you know, just experience my own personal life experiences and what I go through on a daily basis.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: And if I can help you with that, man, that that that's that's what's crazy, bro.
13:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that's like it's like uh it's kind of like a selfless thing when you're wanting for uh you're wanting to encourage others because we could sit here and be like, nah, I don't want to encourage anybody, I just want to do for myself, you know what I'm saying?
13:42
SPEAKER_01: Has it always been like has it always been like that for you, or has it been like a shift, like, oh, I'm gonna start doing this?
13:48
SPEAKER_00: No, man, it ain't always been like that, to be real.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, there was a lot of time in my life I was just selfish as fuck.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: I mean, to this day, I'm still selfish as fuck.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: So for a lot of things.
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SPEAKER_00: Um to can be continuing with this dream and continuing with this passion is me being selfish as fuck.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: Right, right in a way, right?
14:06
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but it's also showing, like, you know, man, I'm not giving up.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm showing my daughter it don't matter what your dream is, keep doing it until you can.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, nobody can tell you no, because you never know, right?
14:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fucking what like two chains got signed at 34, 35 years old, right?
14:22
SPEAKER_00: Then went on.
14:23
SPEAKER_00: It don't matter, like even if I'm a one-hit wonder, I can say I did it.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm not, you know, it don't matter.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: It's just this is what I like to do, this is my passion, so I'm gonna keep doing it.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that that's the whole thing about it.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, just don't give up on anything that you believe or anything that you dream.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, just find the ways to make it work, find the ways to make it happen.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: And if it's supposed to happen, it'll happen.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: If it don't, it don't, but at least you know you have the will and the motivation to keep moving, and sometimes that's all you need, you know.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh and I feel like just keep pushing.
15:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: It's almost like it's almost when you're selfish, when we're selfish in that sense, we end up helping others, you know what I mean?
15:11
SPEAKER_01: It it's it's kind of like that's how art is.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: You look at a piece of art, the person that's painting it, yeah, they're painting it selfishly, you know, the in the sense that you're talking, but at the same time, what's it for?
15:23
SPEAKER_01: It's for the person that's looking at it, yeah.
15:25
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
15:28
SPEAKER_00: And like you say, man, a lot of it were like I was selfish, I was a lot of the things, but over time, man, I started realizing that I'm gonna be like you say, like if I'm gonna be selfish in my ways and do this, I might as well do this in a positive manner because I always feel like if you give out positivity, it'll come back, you know, tenfold, right?
15:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I it took me a while to realize everyday activities and everyday things is a blessing.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: And um it's kind of hard to like when you're when you're always on social media, for instance, and you see a lot of people, man, they got these nice cars, you know, Rolex diamonds, blinged out stuff, and you go back to your home and you're like, oh man, I just have this, and I don't really have a whole beat up car.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, you got to remember, man, you got a place to stay, you got a place to eat, you got a place to live.
16:19
SPEAKER_00: You're not in, you're not behind bars, you're not in jail.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, you can see your family, you get in the breathe, and you're alive.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of us forget that.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: And over time, I feel like the older I got, like, man, I started realizing like that, those are blessings, and just being alive and being able to see my daughter and be able to do things that I want to do without somebody controlling me, whether it's probation or you know, something else like that.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, that is a blessing in itself.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: And then once I started realizing those are blessings, man, my dreams started moving forward.
16:48
SPEAKER_00: My things, the positivity started helping me go.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, that you can only thank God and my family, and my mom, and my dad, and my brother, my inner circle, for helping me realize that.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: But you know, uh, it took me a while too, but you know, I got there, and finally that's how I started being a little bit more motivational and what I say, hoping that maybe it helps somebody, you know.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure, man.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: It's like, and then this when I listen to your stuff, my circle, the what he's talking about, he's it's my circle.
17:17
SPEAKER_01: Go check it out, y'all.
17:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh can't too, my circle on YouTube.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: But that's like uh, what was I gonna say?
17:23
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's like when you when as an artist, especially for your your type of art, you put your emotions, your thoughts, your actual self to where people can hear with that with musical, like instrumental, not much so, like people kind of invent what they're thinking of, but you with your words, it coming from here, you know what I mean?
17:45
SPEAKER_01: From the chorus, yeah, inside.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is it diff um is it difficult for you to like put out a song to where it's like you know it's coming from the heart?
17:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh or how did how do you how do you think about that?
17:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, and you know what?
17:59
SPEAKER_00: A lot of it, and it took that, and that was part of some of the trans the transition for me being selfish into being a little motivational.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: Because I used to just make music to talk about like drug, sex, partying, you know, the typical.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, and a lot of it, man, I would have to say came from my mom and my dad.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: So my mom and my dad started realizing I make music, right?
18:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, they they got Facebook all of a sudden, right?
18:25
SPEAKER_00: And uh they started realizing, you know, that social media, they started realizing I make music.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: And my dad was very adamant about like, you know, Mihal, like um, you know, you know, the people that make the songs for Chuck and Cheese get paid a lot of money and they don't cuss.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: You know, um, people that make music for Jesus, we get paid a lot of money and they don't cuss.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: You don't always gotta cuss.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: So I started cutting down on my cussing, and then I started kind of thinking about like, now that I know my parents and my family are actually realizing I do this and this is some way I make a living.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, and like, you know, they start realizing, hey, he's doing shows and he's out here, and they're starting to see me all over social media.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, it made me start real like, dang, they're really watching me, right?
19:10
SPEAKER_00: They're really under, they're really starting to see what I do on a daily basis.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: And it made me kind of, and I just questioned, like, second down myself not being me, but at the same time, like, I'm also representing them in a way, right?
19:21
SPEAKER_00: So I wasn't trying to be disrespectful anymore and just trying to be like, you know, because at the time, like I didn't care.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'd be on social media, like, you know, drinking, smoking, blowing, you know, all kinds of acting a fool, being a dumbass.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: Now I'm like, well shit, now people are starting to realize my name and stuff, and they know that's my mom and dad.
19:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know, I got I'm representing them.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: So I it gave me that transition to be like a little bit just a just a grow up, you know.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: You ain't gotta be acting a fool all the time.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's a time and a place to do everything, there's a time and a place, you know, to be professional, time and a place to act a fool, and there's a time and a place, you know, to promote and do your business.
19:59
SPEAKER_00: And I just started taking in and taking, I started thinking that at that approach in my everyday um life, and then in my everyday like social media and presence, like, man, just there's a time and a place, you know.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: If I'm just out here chilling, you know, then you know, just out here chill.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, you gotta be doing that in the fool, being wild and all that.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: So um my my mom and my dad, once they started realizing I did music and took it seriously.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: And the thing was that they took it seriously, and the fact that, okay, this is what you want to do.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: We understand how you're doing it after I broke the business down to them and how I'm going about it, and they supported it, um, it made me think like, damn, if they can get behind me, well then like you know, you know, just let me take it a little bit more professional in that sense.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh so do you feel like you're do you feel like your your writing, so how how do how so not cussing as much does that change your writing style?
20:53
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
20:53
SPEAKER_00: How does that no it it helps it actually?
20:56
SPEAKER_00: I to be honest, I never even really thought about it.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: I always use the cuss word as a as a crutch for like a rap, you know, like you know, you know what I mean?
21:05
SPEAKER_00: Like uh like if I was gonna say like shit, bitch, whatever, you know, like I know I could always rhyme with it.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, so it just gave me more of a challenge, right?
21:13
SPEAKER_00: It just gave me more of a challenge to just open my vocabulary up, give my words.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, not to say I don't do it, I do it, especially like in freestyles, it comes out like that.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, but when I start writing and actual songs that you hear put out, like on Apple Music and Spotify, and like my actual things that are recorded and like uh properly registered, um, a lot of them don't have cuss words on them.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just more of my vocabulary just open up, and that's just me just being able, just in case a radio wants to pick it up.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: So it's easier to do radio play, it's easier to do that.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, and and and that's also another thing I learned like business wise, like hey, if a game company wants to pick up your song or an independent movie, it's a lot easier that way.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, especially for T V or anything public.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: So Yeah, so deep man, that's that's that's good stuff, bro.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Totally.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: So do you feel like an independent artist is kind of like just throwing as many arrows as they can to try to get like something?
22:08
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
22:09
SPEAKER_01: How do you feel about that?
22:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, it's no sense in the you know, starting off as an independent, like, you know, uh clothing company.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: You you you don't know where to start.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, do I do hats or do shirts or I do pants?
22:21
SPEAKER_00: Like you you think all these ideas are great, but at the same time, whatever works for you and you find working for you, you gotta stick to it.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: And then you can grow from there, right?
22:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, so that as an independent artist, you gotta find your niche, whether it's hey, freestyles, or if it's just um, you know, this is the type of music I make, a certain type of beat, or you know, you stick to that, and that works, and then you just grow and you branch off of that.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: You gotta find it because at the end of the day, it's growing your fan base, it's growing you, and it's branding your name and monetizing on your name, and the best way to grow it.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: So you just gotta find each and every way, and um, whatever sticks sticks, right?
23:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you just roll with it, but just because it sticks doesn't mean you gotta stick with that method.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: You can always find new stuff.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: Nice, man.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: So wow, that's awesome.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: So you're on uh you said Spotify and Apple.
23:13
SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Apple, iTunes, Title, Reverb, uh anything, Google Music.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, I got my uh publishing through Ocular Records, and then I got distribution through United Masters, so um which hits all platforms.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: And then um I own uh I own my music, and then with the help of like some producers and friends, I get them like uh a lot cheaper than it would be.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, but like you know, at the end of the day, you have to own the rights to your music, you have to register your music that way you put it out there and you really can start getting paid for doing shows, start getting paid um for streaming, getting paid for all kinds of performance and rights.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of uh there's a lot of performance rights people don't understand on that side of it.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: Um it's real big, it's real complicated.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: And um, you just gotta do your research, you gotta learn, you gotta educate yourself.
24:09
SPEAKER_00: And the more you educate yourself, the better you're prepared.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: For sure, man.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like a I want to say it's kind of like a union, like you have a union or whatever to where they know what their rights are.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: But musicians have rights, they have rights because what they their art or what they create is what they create.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: And uh, yeah, not a lot of people, especially musicians, they don't we don't think they don't think about that when they start out.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: They're just like, oh, I just want to make raps, I just want to make rhymes.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like you know, so it's like you you gotta get your uh I remember I was listening to a podcast, uh Chop It Up Podcast.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: You mentioned uh the ASCAP and then you mentioned uh the BMI, which are which are two things that you have to get or or that it's you should get uh as an artist, right?
24:55
SPEAKER_01: What why so why why is that so?
24:57
SPEAKER_00: Why do you think that's um it's just uh it's to cover your own bases and it's to make sure you're you you did it.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: So like um ASCAF, right?
25:06
SPEAKER_00: That's the one I use is uh um it's the American Society of Composers, artists, and uh publishers, right?
25:15
SPEAKER_00: Um so anything you any music you produce, anything that you write, anything you should, you register it.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: Once it goes into a register, it's like the national database for music, right?
25:26
SPEAKER_00: It's a catalog.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: So if anybody ever uses it for a movie or whatever, they know where to go.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: Hey, who's the owner, who's the writer, how can I buy it, how can I use it and pay it.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: If it's not on there, um, you're never gonna get paid.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: Like just because you upload it to you, just because you upload it to YouTube, just because you upload it to SoundCloud, just could be uploaded through uh, you know, United Masters to do like Spotify, whatever, it doesn't mean you have credit for it.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: That does not mean if you don't do the proper place and say who's your publisher, who's it then, you know, it's kind of like registering or owning a car.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: You have to sign it, have a title, all that.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's kind of like having a business.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: If you don't have your business license, your tax ID, your ASCAP, and that is basically like your tax ID, it's your artist ID.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: So anytime your music or anything gets played, it's attached to that ID number so people know who it is.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: So if they ever need to use it or whatever, and it registers, and all of a sudden it builds your resume.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, and you get in the, you know, it takes a while.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: Like uh, once you first register the song, you probably won't see anything for the next nine to twelve months.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, because it just takes a while, and it you know, and you got but you at the same time, you gotta put in the numbers, you gotta say, hey, I did this show, um, I did it here.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: This is the venue, this is the place.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: You know, and they call and they do they do their due diligence and make sure, hey, was this person there?
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Y'all get cool with me because you get paid for that.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Once you own it, you know, you have performing rights, like you own that.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: If they're for just being on stage and performing, you get paid for that because you own that property.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, there's a lot of things about it, and ASCAP is ASCAP and VMI are the two biggest ones.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're the same thing, they're just two different companies.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I just like ASCAP uh because it's just more exclusive just on the like TV, movie, music side, BMI is a little more music.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you just you never like, I mean, the same thing with like uh doing Broadway shows and writing things, like you have to do that, you have to register it that way.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: Nobody gets copyrighted and everything's good.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, and that that's how you do it.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: If you don't do that, you're it's your word versus somebody else's, you know?
27:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why, like, you know, that's why, like, you know, like you hear things that were let's say I don't know what it was like, Justin Bieber made a cover song, but the cover song he did was to a guy like 20, 30 years ago.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Wow, the dude tried to shoot Justin Bieber because all of a sudden he's getting credit for it.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: Technically, the guy that originally wrote it, that's his music.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: So he deserves a cut or something, and you know, that's what it is just covers your own basis and saves it.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: That's um, I mean, that's a very that's a very unlikely scenario, right?
28:02
SPEAKER_00: But it can happen.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: But if you don't register, you don't cover your own butt, I mean, who's gonna help you?
28:09
SPEAKER_00: It's like protection from somebody stealing your work, yes, but yeah, you know, same thing like writing a book or whatever, you know, you give it to a publisher, they write it.
28:18
SPEAKER_00: So if that somebody else tries to write it, it goes through a system and they see if it's copyrighted or any, you know what I mean?
28:23
SPEAKER_00: Like it's the same thing with music, same thing with making beat.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: Like, you have to, and if you do and it tells you on there, like, hey, if you made this beat, did you take a sample from somebody else?
28:31
SPEAKER_00: Did you do this?
28:32
SPEAKER_00: And they ask you that way they know.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, and everybody gets their cut, and that's just how it is.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, that that's that's the one thing I try to tell independent artists.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: People just coming up like it's way more than just doing SoundCloud, YouTube, and just putting videos out there.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna take it seriously and you want to start getting paid and want to get money back and recoup and turn it into a business, um, that's what you need to do.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: Man, bro, that's a that's a base that you need to touch, bro, because that that involves your money.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
29:00
SPEAKER_01: If you're trying to make money, dude, damn.
29:03
SPEAKER_00: Because if you're already gonna pay for to record, you're gonna pay for the beat, you're gonna pay for the feature, or you're gonna pay for the engineer, you're gonna pay for the more the artwork, you're gonna pay to advertise.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: What if you don't get money back?
29:17
SPEAKER_00: It's just a hobby.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: Damn, bro.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: Gotta make your money back.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, and you know, and like, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying like, I mean, it's uh and it's also it's a if the record label contacts you and they offer you stuff, hell yeah, take it, man.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: That that's one way to put your foot in the door so you learn the game even better, right?
29:35
SPEAKER_00: But if you're not in that position or that's not what it is, or you're just independent and you don't know how to keep on, man, you gotta start educating yourself to figure out how you can restart recouping your money, um, start trying to get venues, start doing shows, start selling tickets, start selling merch.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, um, you gotta monetize on your name.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: I I imagine you're trying to like save as much money as you can wherever you can.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: In that sense, yeah.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, it is.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: It's like you that's when you start learning how to record at the house.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: That's when you start learning how to do your own mixing and mastering.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: That's how you start learning to do everything, your own camera work.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: Um because it all adds up.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so do you make your so do you make your own beats or do you use other people's beats?
30:19
SPEAKER_01: How do you go about uh that?
30:20
SPEAKER_00: So I actually uh mean I'm very lucky.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: I got a homeboy, Childish Charlie.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: Shout out to him out of corpus.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Big dude.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh Childish Charlie.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: Childish Charlie, all right.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Childish Charlie.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: He's actually the dude that did the beat for my circle.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: He's actually done the beat for the my next single that's coming out, Flight.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, dude's super talented, an awesome producer, amazing, uh, amazing artist.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, he's also a corpus guy, so you know, we linked up.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, and he and luckily for me and him, like we work really well together.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: Um he's one guy I get in.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, I tell him, like, hey man, this is what I'm pinging on the beat.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: This is what we're doing.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: Nice dude's very talented, plays the drums, plays everything.
30:59
SPEAKER_00: So he, you know, we make it all from scratch, and then you know, that way we're able to own our stuff.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Um you know, other people like it's other beats or other producers, and you just buy you have to buy the beat out right exclusively.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, and that tells you, you know, you sign paperwork saying you own the rights to it, it was purchased, um, things like that.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, that and I, you know, I try to dabble myself, but uh I'm better at I'm better with the I'm better with the pen and the pad.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, but I don't mind trying it.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: I've done a couple on my own too.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: So like, you know, so you know, do you pick Yeah?
31:35
SPEAKER_01: Do you pick the speed of the of the songs, or does he pick the speed of the songs, or like how does how does that process go about?
31:42
SPEAKER_00: Man, it's really just the it's just the vibe, whatever we're in the moment, whatever we're feeling, whatever you know, whatever we discussing, whatever topic we want to talk about, you know, whatever we kind of feel, we try to just go with it.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, we try to do it in the moment.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of times I just get like I'll get emails of just samples from beats of stuff, producers, and whatever I like or whatever I feel at the time, I'll just say, yes, I want that, that, or whatever.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, but um, I mean it's either way.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: It's it's just whatever you feel and whatever you so yeah, so uh so which uh which speeds are you the most uh is your is your your most uh challenging to rap to write to rap to like slow?
32:26
SPEAKER_00: Non-traditional like uh hip hop beats.
32:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, but those are the ones I like the most.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: Um like I love like going out, like let's say, like, man, back in the day, like let's say we were going out to like Whiskey River, Ropers, whatever, right?
32:43
SPEAKER_00: With some people, and like man, I'd be sitting in a corner, like it'd be a country song or something, and that's freestyling, or you know, like that's like to me, that's the best.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: That's the best.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Like to me, I like that.
32:54
SPEAKER_00: That's the that's the best challenge.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, right.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: And then as an artist, because you got to keep growing, you never know what's gonna mix up or whatever, but um, that's one thing I I like to do personally, like it don't matter what it is, it could be like a sharing, or it could be like you know, a bronco or something, you know, it don't matter.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: Like, I I'll I'll if I can find the rhythm I like I'll try to just snap to it, you know, or just get on it.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: And I can and I could see I could see your rhymes getting because I look at your TikTok and I started the first couple videos, and then while I got to like some of the latest videos you have, I'm like, dang, this dude has evolved in the different freestyle because you start freestyling over people's stuff, like you would uh duet their their beats and stuff.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: Like, Dan, this dude's he's he's still going, you know what I mean?
33:37
SPEAKER_01: It's it's good to hear that.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, you know, and I like it because it keeps you on your toes, and then like this one guy I like, yeah, um, I want I think his LB T8.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, he throws words up.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: And I I you know, you gotta yeah, you gotta go with the words, and I like that because like whenever I used to freestyle, especially something like back in the day, like I would tell people like, man, give me a topic.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Like that way you know it's coming off the dome, that way you know it's fresh, that way you know I had something I written.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I like that.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: I like him.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: He just uh he just throw words up, so you gotta start rhyming whatever words he pops up.
34:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I like stuff like that.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I that's something I would do, like just driving on the highway.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: I'd be on the highway on corpus, right?
34:17
SPEAKER_00: I'd just be like on SPID and all the like different billboards or signs or whatever, and I would just start rapping to like whatever I see, you know.
34:24
SPEAKER_00: Like, and that's just my way to just stay on my toes and you know that's practicing, and you know, and I enjoy it, I have fun.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: I do like my nieces and my nephews in the car, um, and they have a good time with it.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, that's cool, man.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: That that's definitely helps build your chops to to which it comes down to there's no there's no way to get good at freestyle unless you practice it.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you gotta practice it, and then just throwing in extra words in there, man.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: That that just makes you better.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: So when you write, when you write, do you write to music or do you write, I mean, do you write listening to a piece of music, or do you write just without a piece of music?
34:58
SPEAKER_00: Like how how does that uh so I do both.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: I do both.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: Um sometimes I just write just to write because it's in my head and I got like something and I go with it.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: And then other times, um, if it's like a brand new beat or something, like I want to listen to it and I just want to start writing to it.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Um if I feel like something fits, I'll try to fit it.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: But other than that, like I like to be just 100% and just like write then and there.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: So like if it's a brand new beat, I want to listen to it, then I write to it.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, sometimes I write just to write.
35:29
SPEAKER_00: Um because I well another another thing I want to do is I want to put out like a uh like a like a poetry book or just some poems, you know, that maybe just didn't work out or didn't fit in songs, you know, and just break them down and do that too.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: So a little see what an ebook be selling, like, you know.
35:46
SPEAKER_01: For sure, man.
35:47
SPEAKER_01: That'd be that's a good idea, bro.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Ebook or something, put some images or something to it, man.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: That'd be nice.
35:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
35:53
SPEAKER_01: Cool, man.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: And so you so you write both ways.
35:55
SPEAKER_01: Do you feel yourself like studying like the English language, like to help you with your rhymes?
36:00
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
36:00
SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, after uh no, uh, I mean, I probably could and I probably should, right?
36:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, but no, man.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean I'd be lying to tell you if I did that shit.
36:13
SPEAKER_01: So you get your so then you that then you then you get your influences from obviously from other you know, other artists that you listen to, right?
36:21
SPEAKER_01: So what are you listening to now that's most influential?
36:25
SPEAKER_00: Man, crazy.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: I listen to everything.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: Um so it just depends, but uh man, like right now.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: How about five non-hip hop or rap artists that you're listening to?
36:41
SPEAKER_00: Man, I keep jamming, I keep jamming the crap right now out of that Tom's Diner, that cover.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: Right, like I'm gonna sit in and look you're yeah, bro.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: Dude, them dudes kill it, bro.
36:54
SPEAKER_00: Them dudes kill it, right?
36:56
SPEAKER_00: Them dudes kill it.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: Um that's like like it's all it's on my YouTube like like non-stop.
37:04
SPEAKER_00: Um I'm trying to think what else I have on there right now.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh that's not rap.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: Um one thing I always play straight up, shout out.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, I play these two songs every time I drink or anything, um, because it uh it's uh it's it's uh it's somebody it's a it's a tribute to my cousin.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: Um so uh I do uh El Mariache, right, from Desperado with Antonio Bandetis, right?
37:28
SPEAKER_00: I always play that one.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: And I do I Disappear from Metallica.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: Oh right, right.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: That one came out in Mission Impossible 2, the soundtrack.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh right, and then and that was one of my cousin's favorite movies, and that was one of his favorite jams.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: And then uh we we used to watch Desperado like nothing.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: We love Samuel, yeah.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: Nice man, and uh, and um so like that El Mariache, and that fool wasn't Mariachi, that fool could play the uh guitar, the piano, and the drums, and he would do the little you know, and everything too.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um so like that that so like that that's stuff that's always in mind.
38:02
SPEAKER_00: Um I'm a big Kings of Leon fan.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Um big, big Kings fan.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: Like huge.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: I love their Kings of Leon.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: Kings of Leon, okay.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, bro.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: Like, like I bro, I love their their story, their the way they came about.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: You know, they they um I don't know if you know anything about them, um, but you know, they're two brothers and they're two cousins.
38:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, and when they were like when they ages were like 16 to 21 or 22, their dad and their uncle told them, like, man, it's time for y'all to get a job, what y'all gonna do?
38:35
SPEAKER_00: And they said we're gonna be uh we're gonna be a rock and roll band.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: But none of them knew how to play an instrument.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: So they took uh a piece of history from the Eagles.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: The Eagles did this back in the day.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: When the Eagles became the Eagles, they locked themselves in the basement to get like a sound as a as a band.
38:51
SPEAKER_00: So what the Kings or Leon did is they all locked themselves in the basement with the instrument they picked, and they didn't come out until they could play the instrument.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: So one taught how to play with drums, the guitar, and everything.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: They all put themselves together, and their mom would and their aunt would bring them food, and they would say that that's why, if you ever notice their first albums, they have really long hair, long beards, because they were in a basement not doing anything but learning how to play, and that's why their music's very simple, very thing.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, but that's what they did, and it was like one of those if I can, you can too moments, like you know, like right.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: So, like that, that's why I I fuck with them heavy.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're really cool.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're always on my stuff.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm trying to think of some other things that I have like that aren't rap.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh man, I'm going blank on stuff too, man.
39:37
SPEAKER_00: And I because I listened, I love like my so my dad is a lot older, so I love a lot of 50s, 60s music.
39:43
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, I like a lot of 70s, 80s for my sisters, and then like, you know, 90s, uh, 2000s and um and uh, but man, I just I just love music.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Like I can listen to a lot.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: It's just you know, uh like so like okay, you know what?
40:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm a big Pepper fan.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: Pepper Pepper?
40:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like yeah, Pepper.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh Kona Town.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: Um back when they were like signed to Volcum Records before they became everything else.
40:11
SPEAKER_00: Like that was like one of the best things because you know, being corpus, you know, we love the beach, we surf, we skimboard.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: Um Pepper, you know, that they were dope, like Stormtrooper.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, that that man, that shit went hard.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: Um shit.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, man, dude, you just name it.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just yeah.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: So like I listen to a lot.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man, you definitely gotta get it your influence from somewhere, man.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: If you the the more influences you have, the more better your writing because that's what I think.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, uh, if you play guitar or something, you you gotta like different types of guitar music, you know what I mean?
40:49
SPEAKER_01: The styles are different, you can learn from different, and then you just create your own.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's how bands you know make it, you know.
40:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, make their music.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: They get it from the influences, yeah.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: They get they get it from influences, definitely, man.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: Uh, so uh, so do you do you pride yourself on uh as a Texas uh artist?
41:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, man, all day, every day.
41:13
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: Um I represent Corpus like a motherfucker.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: Um hell yes, bro.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: All day, every day.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I represent Texas.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: Like I got a couple songs, I got a song out there where like I say, I um I don't do it for my city, I do it for my state, right?
41:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, but at the same time, bro, I do it for my city.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: Like I love Corpus, Corpus is home, corpus is where I grew up, it's what raised me, taught me how to be I am.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Everything I know is from there, music-wise, influence-wise, from baseball to like, you know, um everything, man.
41:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh fucking I love Corpus.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, but then I love Texas.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: I've also lived in San Antonio, I lived in Dallas, I lived in Bryan College Station.
41:56
SPEAKER_00: Um I I love Texas.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm a big Texas fan.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: The only thing I feel like, I feel like more corpus people are real Texas fans than any other city because we don't have a team, right?
42:07
SPEAKER_00: Besides the hooks, right?
42:09
SPEAKER_00: Right?
42:09
SPEAKER_00: Besides the hooks.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: Before that, like I feel like every corpus person is a San Antonio fan, and every corpus fan is like a fucking Dallas Cowboy fan.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: And then it's just a toss-up between the Rockets and you know the Rangers and the Astros, but it don't matter.
42:23
SPEAKER_00: We all over.
42:24
SPEAKER_00: We we love Texas.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: We like if you from Texas, you I feel like I feel like even if you're a Texas fan, you support other Texas teams being in Texas.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't support, like, I don't fuck with that team, but it's Texas, you know?
42:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, we're gonna rock with them until they fall off.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: For sure, bro.
42:40
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, and it's like it's not till you leave Texas and go live somewhere else, you're like, I'm from Texas, bro.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
42:47
SPEAKER_01: Like you're more this is where I'm from, you know.
42:50
SPEAKER_01: And it's crazy.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: It's crazy how you're saying that because like that's how it is.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: Like, when every time I leave, and I tell people from corpus, they're like, Man, all you corpus people are the same.
42:59
SPEAKER_00: Like, y'all are so like y'all are from corpus, corpus is this, corpus is that.
43:03
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, Yes, bitch, 361, motherfucker, yes.
43:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah, and that's you know what I'm saying?
43:08
SPEAKER_00: What ho and what?
43:09
SPEAKER_00: What you gonna do, buddy?
43:10
SPEAKER_00: What?
43:12
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we all them people.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: What what that's it, bro.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: I can't fuck with the I swear, I swear, like every other man, ain't no shout outs.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, all the other cities in Texas, y'all dope, right?
43:23
SPEAKER_00: Don't get to see, but y'all cannot fuck with corpus people, corpus people are on a different level when it comes to drinking, when it comes to partying, when it comes to doing because we ain't got shit to do out there but do bonfires and go out to like Bob Hall Pierce and had shit to do, but go like out and just fucking drink and drive.
43:41
SPEAKER_00: Ain't got shit to do out there.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: We ain't have no place to go.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: Ain't nobody was going to mall back then, ain't nobody was going to sunrise, ain't nobody was going to Padre.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: Now it's Palmer's shit, making fancy.
43:52
SPEAKER_01: It ain't just about Selena out here.
43:54
SPEAKER_01: For real, dog.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: It ain't just about Selena.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: We I mean it ain't, it ain't, it ain't.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Bro, like it ain't like oh like Selena.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, bro, no, dog.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: Like, no, no, no, man.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, man, y'all had like everybody had like we fucking knew Selena hand in hand and shit.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: Like when you go to Vegas, you're like, oh, you're home with Selena.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, bro.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: But we got other shit too.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: It's Corpus.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
44:22
SPEAKER_00: And that's one thing I do hate about some corpus people.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, like uh Evil Longore, like, I hate this bitch.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: Don't ever rep corpus, bro.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, come on, man.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: She's San Antonio.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: She only likes San Antonio.
44:35
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, I hate when people make it big and they don't rap corpus.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: Dude, that's sucks, man.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, like that is like that's one thing that blows my mind.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, I feel like corpus is is a shit.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: I love Corpus, bro.
44:49
SPEAKER_01: So this was up, man.
44:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, you're proud for me, especially to leave.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: Because I used to live out of town and I used to tell people like Corpus Christie.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: They're like, Where?
44:56
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, Corpus Christie, man, you know, but yeah, definitely, bro.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: That's cool, man.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: So you grew up on so you from you grew up on like DJ Screw, uh, and that type and that type of uh rap, I guess is what you call it.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: I know what you call it.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yes.
45:12
SPEAKER_00: That that era.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's cool, man.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I remember that stuff.
45:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh the screwed and chopped.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: Like Lil Flip.
45:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, Lil Flip, you know, Slim Thug, DSR, Tom Tom, Big Tug, you know, uh four-corner hustlers, um, you know, uh Charlie Boy.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bro.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of Texas artists, man, that that we don't realize.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: They're from Texas, and it's like Magno in there, you know, like um, I was like Paw Walker new in there, they were first coming out.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: Um Fat Pat.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: All them fools, man.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: Cool, bro.
45:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I appreciate you coming on, bro.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: I think I'm trying to look at my notes here to see if I got anything else here.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but yeah, I appreciate you coming on, bro.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: You want to share anything?
45:59
SPEAKER_00: Man, I appreciate you having man.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: I appreciate you having me.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, be on the lookout.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: Flight is about to be dropping here pretty soon.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: On top of that, um, I got another single coming out with Peso Peso.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's called Zippin' I Move.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: That's also gonna be dropping out the end of the summer.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, I finally got the approval and everything for that.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: It was just taking a while because we had to go through different labels and things, but that's finally about to be approved.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: And then um, man, just be on the lookout.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, be on the lookout.
46:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna try to be doing some more shows, trying to do things, uh, trying to get some things ready for buck days.
46:31
SPEAKER_00: So uh, you know, yeah.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: If y'all if y'all got a chance, man, follow me on Instagram.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: It's can2cang, the number two mf.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, follow my little brother eat slice on cctx for pizza.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, Alina's corner for my baby boutique.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, man, check me out on uh Apple Music, on TikTok, on uh Snapchat, follow me everywhere, and you know, I I give love back, comment, I comment back.
46:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, so let's get it.
47:01
SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
47:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, let's just keep it corpus Christie original.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, keep it original, baby.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: Corpus Christi.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
47:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, man, I appreciate you.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll we'll talk to you soon, man.
47:10
SPEAKER_01: Have a good one.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: All right, man.
47:12
SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it, bro.
47:12
SPEAKER_00: And I can't wait to get that hat from you, man.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be dope.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: It's already out, man.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: You'll probably get it on Monday.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bro.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be sick.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be sick.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: I'll make a video for it.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be in case y'all want to know.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: It is a maroon corpus christi hat because yes, it is AM up in this bitch.
47:27
SPEAKER_00: Give them let's get it, bro.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: All right, y'all.
47:30
SPEAKER_01: That was Artist Can 2.
47:31
SPEAKER_01: Check him out at TikTok, Instagram.
47:33
SPEAKER_01: I'll leave links in the description as well as uh links to his businesses that he's a part of.
47:37
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47:40
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47:44
SPEAKER_01: We appreciate you guys.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: Have a good one.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: Bye.