Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Child 'Protection' leaves bruised, beaten 3-year old tot girl TO DIE
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. How does a beautiful little
- 0:15Speaker 1: three year old girl named Trinity three years old end
- 0:21Speaker 1: up dead? She didn't have an asthma attack, she wasn't
- 0:25Speaker 1: hit by a car, she didn't have a congenital heart
- 0:31Speaker 1: problem that nobody knew about. So how does this beautiful
- 0:37Speaker 1: little three year old girl end up dead? I want
- 0:44Speaker 1: answers crime stories with Nancy Grace. While many of us
- 1:01Speaker 1: hide Christmas break New Year's Eve, were with our family,
- 1:06Speaker 1: loving every minute of being together. The harsh reality is
- 1:14Speaker 1: that deaths of children, children going missing goes on year round.
- 1:20Speaker 1: There is no we can break. There's no Christmas break,
- 1:24Speaker 1: no New Year's break. So as much as we want
- 1:28Speaker 1: to turn our gaze and focus on the Christmas tree
- 1:32Speaker 1: or happy New Year, Lady Justice never gets arrest. And
- 1:39Speaker 1: one of the reasons she never gets arrest is because
- 1:42Speaker 1: of children like Trinity. First of all, take a listen
- 1:49Speaker 1: to the three year old Trinity. Chandler's family had big
- 1:51Speaker 1: plans for Christmas, and this typical little girl was excited
- 1:55Speaker 1: for the holidays. She loves stuff, pillows, and characters in
- 1:59Speaker 1: the Frozen films. In fact, her presence from grandmother Christine
- 2:02Speaker 1: Cunningham reflect that the plan was to transform Trinity's bedroom
- 2:07Speaker 1: into a frozen wonderland. But while shopping for last minute
- 2:11Speaker 1: presents to round out the wish list, this grandmother receives
- 2:15Speaker 1: unimaginable news Trinity is dead. That has just brought up
- 2:20Speaker 1: so many memories. You may or may not know. My
- 2:24Speaker 1: children who are my world, John, David and Lucy have
- 2:27Speaker 1: just turned believe it or not, thirteen. I can't believe it,
- 2:31Speaker 1: but I remember the frozen phase. I thought my son
- 2:35Speaker 1: was going to jump out of the car if we
- 2:36Speaker 1: sang it in the car one more time, let it go.
- 2:41Speaker 1: And I also remember when you just heard our producer
- 2:45Speaker 1: Jackie Howard says she wanted loved stuffed pillows. I will
- 2:49Speaker 1: never forget when the Twins went through the pillow pet phase.
- 2:55Speaker 1: It was odd. They were those one eight hundred commercials
- 2:58Speaker 1: that come on TV and they are pillows in every
- 3:01Speaker 1: animal you can think of, penguin pillows, unicorn pillows, Teddy
- 3:05Speaker 1: Barry pillows, every animal is represented. That's all ladybug pillows.
- 3:10Speaker 1: I just thought of that that because that's what Lucy wanted,
- 3:13Speaker 1: and they were obsessed with getting stuffed pillows. And I'm
- 3:17Speaker 1: just imagining this three year old little girl, Trinity loving
- 3:21Speaker 1: these stuffed pillows and singing the Frozen Song and just
- 3:26Speaker 1: love and life at three years old with me and
- 3:30Speaker 1: all star our panel to break it down and put
- 3:32Speaker 1: it back together again. First of all, lead news anchor
- 3:35Speaker 1: for w DBO, Ray Kiputo, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University,
- 3:40Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and star
- 3:43Speaker 1: of a brand new series on the True Crime Network,
- 3:46Speaker 1: Poisonous Liaisons. Founder and director of the Cold Case Research Institute.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Crime scene expert Cheryl McCullum. Joining us are now psychilogrists
- 3:56Speaker 1: out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Doctor Angela Arnold you can
- 4:00Speaker 1: find her at Angela Arnold MD dot com. North Carolina
- 4:06Speaker 1: veteran trial lawyer Kathleen Murphy you can find her at
- 4:10Speaker 1: NC Domestic Law dot com. Special guest is joining us,
- 4:15Speaker 1: the founder of Class Kids klaas Kids dot Org, Mark
- 4:23Speaker 1: Class and special Guests Joining us. Trinity's aunt, Diamond Chandler.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Ray Kaputo. We just heard that
- 4:34Speaker 1: three year old Trinity had big plans for Christmas. This
- 4:39Speaker 1: little girl super excited. The plan was to transform her
- 4:43Speaker 1: room into a frozen extravaganza. How does this little girl
- 4:51Speaker 1: end up while everybody's shopping? Dad? This little angel, I mean,
- 4:57Speaker 1: this little girl was like another three year old girls.
- 5:00Speaker 1: She said she loved, she loved it's frozen. She loved
- 5:04Speaker 1: her little stuff. Durenna Rompi actually playing on her boy ships.
- 5:07Speaker 1: She likes, you know, her mom and dad hanging out
- 5:10Speaker 1: with them. Your guess is as good as mine as
- 5:13Speaker 1: to how something like this could happen a week before Christmas.
- 5:16Speaker 1: But the long story shorter is the people who trust.
- 5:19Speaker 1: First of all, wait a minute, tell me this. Where
- 5:22Speaker 1: did this go down? What are we talking about? A city?
- 5:25Speaker 1: The country? An apartment complex, is shopping mall? Why can't
- 5:28Speaker 1: you tell me, right, Nancy? This this happened in a
- 5:31Speaker 1: place called a groveling township. It's in Michigan. And if
- 5:35Speaker 1: you know that, the territories between Flint in Detroit, um.
- 5:39Speaker 1: So it's really cool there. It's just a week before Christmas,
- 5:41Speaker 1: and you got a little girl with some snow on
- 5:44Speaker 1: the ground and just looking forward to all those presents
- 5:46Speaker 1: and Santa Claus and all the good things that come
- 5:48Speaker 1: with Christy, you know. To renowned psychiatrist doctor Angela Arnold,
- 5:52Speaker 1: joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Why is it?
- 5:55Speaker 1: Is it the stark dichotomy between what we imagine is
- 5:59Speaker 1: going to happen at Christmas? I mean, doctor Angie, ps,
- 6:04Speaker 1: please get well, doctor Angie suffering with COVID. We were
- 6:08Speaker 1: all wiped out with COVID. It seems like the Christmas
- 6:12Speaker 1: that that got lost because we were all really battling COVID.
- 6:17Speaker 1: And praise the Lord where we've all come through on
- 6:21Speaker 1: the light side of the tunnel. But we people expect
- 6:26Speaker 1: so much at Christmas. And the dichotomy of this little
- 6:29Speaker 1: girl dying at Christmas, why is that such a slap
- 6:33Speaker 1: in the face or cold water thrown on? Because Christmas
- 6:36Speaker 1: is supposed to be such a happy time and it's
- 6:38Speaker 1: such a it's a time that everyone looks forward to.
- 6:42Speaker 1: And you know, if they talked about decorating her bedroom,
- 6:45Speaker 1: people aren't thinking about people being sick or dying or
- 6:49Speaker 1: being killed around the holidays. The holidays are like a
- 6:53Speaker 1: sacred time when when we should not have to worry
- 6:56Speaker 1: about those types of things. And that's the way we
- 6:59Speaker 1: have it in our heads. Because I would say a
- 7:02Speaker 1: good sixty to seventy percent of Christmas nobody sends just
- 7:06Speaker 1: a regular Christmas card anymore. It's the family photo and
- 7:10Speaker 1: they're beautiful, and this family looked like they had a
- 7:14Speaker 1: beautiful family. To Diamond Chandler, this is Trinity's aunt, Miss Chandler.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. Tell me about Trinity,
- 7:24Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Trinity was just this beautiful,
- 7:29Speaker 1: bright little girl, so intelligent. I was told a lot
- 7:33Speaker 1: about her from my brother Michael Chandler, who is her
- 7:36Speaker 1: biological father. With me is Trinity's aunt, Diamond Chandler, and
- 7:41Speaker 1: they news reverberating through the family and the community like
- 7:46Speaker 1: shot waves that this three year old little girl turns
- 7:50Speaker 1: up dead. I want you to take a listen to
- 7:54Speaker 1: the circumstances surrounding the three year old little girl's death.
- 7:59Speaker 1: And I remember the twins at age three, precious, wonderful,
- 8:05Speaker 1: waking up with smiles on their faces every morning. I
- 8:09Speaker 1: remember Christmas with them at age three, at time of
- 8:13Speaker 1: just sheer wonderment. That was not to be for this
- 8:17Speaker 1: three year old little girl, absolutely gorgeous, Trinity Chandler. Take
- 8:23Speaker 1: a listen to our friend at wdiv This is Priya Man.
- 8:28Speaker 1: The family says the mom. Trinity's mom was at work.
- 8:30Speaker 1: She works overnight at a nursing home. When she started
- 8:33Speaker 1: her shift at seven pm on Friday night, Trinity was fine.
- 8:37Speaker 1: When her shift was over. Twelve hours later at seven
- 8:39Speaker 1: am Saturday morning, her little girl was gone. She lived
- 8:43Speaker 1: her Trinity. That's why she worked midnight, so that way
- 8:47Speaker 1: Trinity was sleeping at night. State police are investigating after
- 8:51Speaker 1: four year old Trinity Chandler died over the weekend. Trinity
- 8:54Speaker 1: was set. She loved everybody. She ain't got her new glasses.
- 8:59Speaker 1: She loved her glass and she had to take pictures
- 9:02Speaker 1: and show me here the picture time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
- 9:21Speaker 1: you were just hearing Nnity's grandmother, Christine Cunningham. We are
- 9:25Speaker 1: talking about the death of a three year old little
- 9:31Speaker 1: girl straight out to Joseph Scott, Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jackson
- 9:36Speaker 1: State University and death investigator. When you have the body
- 9:43Speaker 1: of a three year old little girl, that's got to
- 9:48Speaker 1: be something that follows you around for weeks and months
- 9:52Speaker 1: or longer. I still remember and actually have nightmares about
- 9:57Speaker 1: cases I prosecuted and investigated where children were the victims.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Joe Scott, Yeah, it does follow you forever. Nancy is
- 10:05Speaker 1: something that's haunting and what else is haunting about these
- 10:09Speaker 1: circumstances many times, or the way they died, I would
- 10:12Speaker 1: urge everybody in our audience to please visit crime on
- 10:18Speaker 1: Line and take a look at this precious angel. Our
- 10:23Speaker 1: friends league and wrote a wonderful article about this case.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, founder director of Cold Case Research Institute. She
- 10:30Speaker 1: may be the director of the Cold Case Research Institute now,
- 10:34Speaker 1: but I remember her showing up on crime scenes with
- 10:38Speaker 1: me in the middle of the night you started processing crimes, saying,
- 10:45Speaker 1: Cheryl to me, I mean, I never forget any of
- 10:49Speaker 1: my cases, but the ones involving children, for some reason,
- 10:55Speaker 1: they they're worse than the others. They are worse than
- 10:58Speaker 1: the other than Nancy. I can remember one You and
- 11:00Speaker 1: I worked in Thomasville Hights on Christmas Eve and it
- 11:04Speaker 1: was a child and I think what everybody said earlier
- 11:08Speaker 1: about it being Christmas time, and that is magical and
- 11:12Speaker 1: especially for children and watching children be so excited, and
- 11:17Speaker 1: especially you know this little baby being excited about her room,
- 11:21Speaker 1: and by three, her whole little personality is right there,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and you know her talking about frozen and wanting her
- 11:28Speaker 1: room to look a certain way, just tillis you because
- 11:34Speaker 1: you know so much about her, just from what she loved,
- 11:38Speaker 1: and she loved her Draft and she loved Frozen, So
- 11:41Speaker 1: it just tells you she was very loving, She was
- 11:44Speaker 1: very sweet, she was very kind, and you know the
- 11:47Speaker 1: fact that somebody would harm her around Christmas is just
- 11:51Speaker 1: unfathomable to Mark Class, founder of Class Kets Foundation, dedicated
- 11:57Speaker 1: to helping missing people, including children. Mark has devoted himself
- 12:05Speaker 1: to that endeavor since the disappearance and death of his
- 12:09Speaker 1: beautiful girl, Polly, Mark Class, I know you remember Polly
- 12:14Speaker 1: at age three, right, Yes? I do, of course I do. Yes,
- 12:18Speaker 1: And they're so innocent at that point. They trust whoever's
- 12:23Speaker 1: taking care of them because they don't know any different. Mark,
- 12:26Speaker 1: you know, personal miss Diamond. I I'm so sorry for
- 12:30Speaker 1: your loss. I'm seething, Nancy, I mean, I'm really seething,
- 12:36Speaker 1: because you know, we bring these precious little babies into
- 12:39Speaker 1: this world, and then it's our job to take care
- 12:43Speaker 1: of them until they're ready to start taking care of
- 12:46Speaker 1: their children. And in fact, we have institutions in place
- 12:51Speaker 1: to ensure that children don't fall through the cracks. But
- 12:55Speaker 1: something occurred here, something horrible occurred. You're right about that,
- 13:01Speaker 1: Mark class hole occurred and people averted their eyes until
- 13:06Speaker 1: it was too late. And for that there's no excuse.
- 13:09Speaker 1: It's a tragedy that we all share. Fact Ray Kaputo,
- 13:12Speaker 1: Lead news anchor w Dbo Ray. So the mom is
- 13:16Speaker 1: at work at a rest home on the night shift.
- 13:20Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever told you my grandmother
- 13:24Speaker 1: that I named Lucy after my mother's mom worked at
- 13:29Speaker 1: a rest home in her late years, and she would
- 13:32Speaker 1: often have the night shift. And it keeps you busy.
- 13:36Speaker 1: You'd think everybody would be asleeping night. No, not in
- 13:39Speaker 1: the old folks home. They're all wandering around. Their aches
- 13:41Speaker 1: and pains are bothering them. You've got to give them
- 13:44Speaker 1: their medications. So mom is busy at work, and I
- 13:48Speaker 1: think it was a twelve hour shift. So what do
- 13:51Speaker 1: we know about the c O D this child? Three
- 13:55Speaker 1: year old little girl's death. Let me ask if she
- 13:57Speaker 1: had an internal bleeding, she suffered some injuries. Um, you
- 14:02Speaker 1: know kids are three years old, especially they're small or fragile,
- 14:06Speaker 1: injuries that adults may sustain them, which is le bruce
- 14:09Speaker 1: can literally be deadly. But this this little girl was
- 14:13Speaker 1: apparently she'd suffered some some type of trauma to her
- 14:17Speaker 1: body and she had internal bleeding. You know, it takes
- 14:20Speaker 1: a lot of trauma on the outer body to get
- 14:23Speaker 1: internal bleeding of this magnitude on the inside of your body.
- 14:29Speaker 1: To Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jackson State University, let's
- 14:34Speaker 1: go through the injuries this little girl sustained when she's
- 14:39Speaker 1: there and the medical examiners. What did the medical examiner
- 14:44Speaker 1: find Joe Scott, Well, she did in fact, and let
- 14:48Speaker 1: me let me preface this by saying, Nancy that the
- 14:54Speaker 1: term torture has been used in this particular case, just
- 15:00Speaker 1: to kind of frame this out, and that's not something
- 15:03Speaker 1: in our world that is commonly, uh commonly thrown about lightly. Okay,
- 15:12Speaker 1: just keep that in mind, and it's it's it's not
- 15:15Speaker 1: something that are trained forensics person. It's just going to
- 15:19Speaker 1: say off the cuff. So that goes to tell you
- 15:23Speaker 1: that the injuries, as Ray had mentioned, were internal. There
- 15:27Speaker 1: was internal bleeding. Uh. My suspicion is the primary source
- 15:33Speaker 1: of the bleeding is going to be in the abdominal region.
- 15:37Speaker 1: And many times which you'll have and abusers do this commonly, Uh,
- 15:43Speaker 1: they punch children in their stomachs many times because it's
- 15:47Speaker 1: they have a perception that people are not going to
- 15:50Speaker 1: see it because clothing covers these particular regions. But which
- 15:54Speaker 1: can't mask is that when you're standing over the body
- 15:58Speaker 1: of a small child, which I stood over hundreds in
- 16:01Speaker 1: the morgue, and you examine their body, you see that
- 16:05Speaker 1: the abdominal cavity is literally and I mean literally, Nancy
- 16:11Speaker 1: awash in blood. The organs are literally floating in blood,
- 16:14Speaker 1: and that's because they've slowly bled out. And to use
- 16:17Speaker 1: the term torture in this particular case indicates to us
- 16:22Speaker 1: that these that there is probably evidence that this was
- 16:26Speaker 1: an ongoing event. I want to talk to you about
- 16:29Speaker 1: what you're saying. They're bruising that would have resulted to
- 16:36Speaker 1: show the injuries on the outside of abdominal organs that
- 16:41Speaker 1: were literally floating in blood on the inside of this
- 16:45Speaker 1: three year old little girl. And I'm gonna go to
- 16:48Speaker 1: doctor Angela Arnold. You know, doctor Angie, I will never
- 16:53Speaker 1: forget Christmas photos we took with the twins and they
- 16:56Speaker 1: were three years old. They were just they just turned
- 16:59Speaker 1: three their birthdays in November, and these were pictures taken
- 17:05Speaker 1: at the beginning of December. Well, the first thing, Lucy
- 17:10Speaker 1: did not like her outfit, so I had a backup outfit.
- 17:14Speaker 1: Cause she's very particular, So she put on her backup outfit.
- 17:18Speaker 1: This is at three, all right. And as she was
- 17:22Speaker 1: walking into the photography place, we walked in. She was
- 17:29Speaker 1: right beside me. We walked on and looked down. She
- 17:31Speaker 1: didn't have a shirt on at all. She just had
- 17:34Speaker 1: on her Christmas pant. She's just looking at me. So
- 17:37Speaker 1: long story short, we finally got her in an outfit.
- 17:40Speaker 1: I don't remember what I had to do to get
- 17:42Speaker 1: her in an outfit. It reminds me of her ballet
- 17:44Speaker 1: outfit when those pictures were taken. That's a whole other
- 17:47Speaker 1: can of worms. But I wanted the picture to be perfect,
- 17:51Speaker 1: right for her to have as a memory. Now, a
- 17:54Speaker 1: picture that I'm looking at right now of Trinity. Look
- 17:58Speaker 1: at her face. The little girl's face is covered in bruises.
- 18:05Speaker 1: That's the perfect picture. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
- 18:23Speaker 1: we're talking about this three year old little girl dead
- 18:28Speaker 1: leading up to Christmas while mom's at work. I mean,
- 18:32Speaker 1: doctor Angel Arnold, you want a perfect picture? This is
- 18:35Speaker 1: not it? No, I mean, don't they even see all
- 18:40Speaker 1: that on this child. And you can see on her
- 18:43Speaker 1: this is at crime online dot Com. Guys, you can
- 18:46Speaker 1: see on her lip that the lip has been busted.
- 18:50Speaker 1: There's there's the nose, all on both sides of the face.
- 18:55Speaker 1: I mean, so Angie shows that somebody was doing something
- 18:58Speaker 1: to her that they didn't even here that it could show.
- 19:02Speaker 1: I mean, your face. That's everybody's going to forever see
- 19:05Speaker 1: the little girl's face. That's not anything you can ever hide.
- 19:09Speaker 1: To Rakaputo, lead news anchor, Orlando Morning News BDBO. So
- 19:13Speaker 1: the mom's at work. I assume the little girl was
- 19:17Speaker 1: all right when mom goes to work. Who was the babysitter.
- 19:21Speaker 1: The babysitter was the mom's boyfriend, Nancy twenty nine year
- 19:24Speaker 1: old Samuel Samuel Lester Smart and he wasn't new. He
- 19:30Speaker 1: was around for a year and a half. Apparently there
- 19:32Speaker 1: was some you know, pretty good rapport between the child
- 19:35Speaker 1: and the mom and stuff. But it was the mom's boyfriend.
- 19:38Speaker 1: It wasn't the biological father. So mom's lover is at
- 19:44Speaker 1: home with the baby when mom goes to work. Is
- 19:48Speaker 1: that correct? Yes, to our knowledge, was anyone else in
- 19:53Speaker 1: the home. No, it was just the two of them
- 19:56Speaker 1: to my knowledge, Nancy, I mean right there, you got
- 20:00Speaker 1: a lot of circumstantial evidence that this was the adult
- 20:04Speaker 1: in the home with the little girl. I want you
- 20:07Speaker 1: to take a listen to our friends at WXYZ. This
- 20:11Speaker 1: is Simon Chaquette. This is truly a sickening crime and
- 20:15Speaker 1: even more appalling, we've now learned Child Protective Services did
- 20:19Speaker 1: a welfare check on Trinity the very day before she died,
- 20:23Speaker 1: and they discovered injuries but still chose not to remove her.
- 20:26Speaker 1: To me, it looked like it was two. As mother
- 20:29Speaker 1: to a friend of three year old Trinity Chandler, Ashley
- 20:32Speaker 1: Brown is speaking out to expose facts she says she
- 20:35Speaker 1: reported to state police and Child Protective Services, including pictures
- 20:39Speaker 1: she gave us of multiple bruises on Trinity's face October's
- 20:43Speaker 1: when I made the report with Michigan State Police for
- 20:47Speaker 1: then today on the face it was a couple months
- 20:49Speaker 1: prior that I had seen her with Marx under her eyes.
- 20:52Speaker 1: It was obvious abuse. They could have at least taken
- 20:55Speaker 1: her and had her space somewhere safe until their investigation
- 20:58Speaker 1: was over. Straight out to Keth Murphy, North Carolina trial lawyer,
- 21:02Speaker 1: specialty domestic law. She's at nc domestic dot com. Kathleen Murphy.
- 21:08Speaker 1: It's to me very telling they didn't even they weren't
- 21:14Speaker 1: concerned at all that she's covered in bruises in a picture.
- 21:18Speaker 1: And I was about to light a fire under this
- 21:21Speaker 1: neighbor's rear end for seeing the bruises on the child
- 21:25Speaker 1: and doing nothing. But that's not true. The neighbor did
- 21:29Speaker 1: do something. She called police, CPS, Child Protective Services got involved.
- 21:36Speaker 1: So why is the baby dead? Kathleen? I see it
- 21:40Speaker 1: all the time. Social Services drops the ball. This neighbor
- 21:44Speaker 1: had photographs of this very picture, and Social Services should
- 21:49Speaker 1: have gone to a judge and take an emergency custody
- 21:52Speaker 1: immediately of this child and placed her in protective services.
- 21:56Speaker 1: The failure for them to do that, the failure of
- 21:58Speaker 1: them to do that, is clearly a failure on the
- 22:01Speaker 1: agency's part. Straight out to Diamond Chandler, this is three
- 22:06Speaker 1: year old Trinity's aunt, Miss Chandler. Did the family have
- 22:11Speaker 1: any idea what was happening? I mean, all the neighbors
- 22:14Speaker 1: seemingly knew. They were calling police. There were reports made
- 22:18Speaker 1: by Trinity's biological father in June to CPS. There were
- 22:23Speaker 1: reports made by neighbors and babysitters in August and the
- 22:30Speaker 1: report made to the police by Ashley Brown in October,
- 22:35Speaker 1: and we were aware that just seeing the Trinity's mother
- 22:43Speaker 1: had cut the biological father out of her life, out
- 22:47Speaker 1: of Trinity's life and most of the family as well,
- 22:51Speaker 1: so it was hard for us to get involved. He
- 22:55Speaker 1: the father had talked to Trinity's mother and told her,
- 23:01Speaker 1: I don't like your boyfriend. I don't feel that he
- 23:05Speaker 1: should be in my daughter's life. So it's just as horrifying.
- 23:11Speaker 1: So all of these family members, including bio dad, were
- 23:15Speaker 1: beside themselves at Trinity being with mommy's live in, but
- 23:22Speaker 1: Mommy did nothing. You know, Cheryl McCallum, you and I've
- 23:27Speaker 1: talked about this a million times outside of court. Do
- 23:29Speaker 1: you know how many times, Cheryl, when I would prosecute
- 23:33Speaker 1: a child abuse case where it was the dad, the stepdad,
- 23:36Speaker 1: the boyfriend to live in, the whatever man involved in
- 23:40Speaker 1: mommy's life would sex, abuse, beat, kill the child. I
- 23:45Speaker 1: never had a single case, Cheryl, not one in ten years,
- 23:53Speaker 1: one hundred new felonies a week to handle. Not once
- 23:57Speaker 1: did Mommy side with the children against the dead or
- 24:02Speaker 1: the boyfriend or the live in or like you said,
- 24:05Speaker 1: whatever he is, Nancy. This is the part to me
- 24:09Speaker 1: that is just flabbergasting. They're ain't a man that exists
- 24:17Speaker 1: that could harm my child and stay anywhere near me.
- 24:23Speaker 1: I cannot fathom this baby being abused in front of
- 24:27Speaker 1: her being abused when she ain't there, and she gets
- 24:31Speaker 1: home to see the results. A bruise's face, she's bathed her,
- 24:36Speaker 1: She's seen other marks on her, on her back and
- 24:38Speaker 1: on her tummy, on her legs. She knows this is
- 24:41Speaker 1: he did not harm her night one and that was it.
- 24:46Speaker 1: This has been an old going I don't get it.
- 24:48Speaker 1: And you know what, Cheryl, I'm thinking of one particular case.
- 24:51Speaker 1: You know it very well. This was a guy who
- 24:56Speaker 1: handled all of the livery horse drawn carriages and Limo
- 25:02Speaker 1: big Limo tourist service in the city of Atlanta, rolling
- 25:06Speaker 1: in money. His living girlfriend actually brought the children that
- 25:11Speaker 1: he had been having full on sex with. One was three,
- 25:14Speaker 1: I think the other one was five. She actually took
- 25:18Speaker 1: them to the defense office the weekend before I struck
- 25:21Speaker 1: the jury to get them to recant. Absolutely, yes, yes,
- 25:26Speaker 1: a devil, the devil. I don't get it. Doctor Angela Arnold.
- 25:30Speaker 1: You know I'm just a trial lawyer. You're the shrink.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Why would any mother pick some good for nothing living
- 25:36Speaker 1: boyfriend over her child. It happens all the time, Nancy,
- 25:42Speaker 1: because people people, because these good for nothing living boyfriends
- 25:48Speaker 1: have certain kinds of personality disorders that attract these women
- 25:52Speaker 1: to them, and they tell them what they want to hear.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Have you looked at this guy? He ain't all that
- 25:59Speaker 1: and a bag of chips, I can tell you that much.
- 26:01Speaker 1: I don't know what hold he's got over anybody exactly,
- 26:03Speaker 1: but but we don't know what kinds of things he
- 26:06Speaker 1: said to her, what she wanted to hear from him,
- 26:09Speaker 1: and how he and then and people just overlook things.
- 26:12Speaker 1: She needed to go to walk, and so she left
- 26:14Speaker 1: the baby with him. She saw the bruises on that
- 26:17Speaker 1: baby's face. I mean, hold on, let me follow up
- 26:19Speaker 1: on that. To Diamond Chandler. This is three year old
- 26:23Speaker 1: Trinity's aunt on the father the bio dad's side, who
- 26:28Speaker 1: had been cut out of the life my mom. According
- 26:30Speaker 1: to the dad in lieu of this living lover, there
- 26:36Speaker 1: was nobody else that could babysit the little girl. Diamond,
- 26:40Speaker 1: she had a great babysitter in Ashley Brown. She had
- 26:44Speaker 1: great neighbors who would help her out whenever she needed.
- 26:48Speaker 1: She had her mother, of it, she could call to
- 26:51Speaker 1: watch Trinity. Any of the family would have driven hundreds
- 26:55Speaker 1: of miles to get Trinity. If she said, my boyfriend
- 26:59Speaker 1: is hurting Trinity, it's just a chilling me. Admit herself.
- 27:03Speaker 1: What was that? He did admit herself in writing. She
- 27:07Speaker 1: said he had hurt her before, but I never thought
- 27:10Speaker 1: in a million years he would do this. Oh God,
- 27:13Speaker 1: you know what. My husband, who was six foot four,
- 27:17Speaker 1: when I would have to go to work at HLN
- 27:20Speaker 1: at night, of course, I had a nanny cam. Thank
- 27:23Speaker 1: you hill In and CNN. They installed a nanny cam.
- 27:28Speaker 1: If you were watching, you saw me looking down. He
- 27:30Speaker 1: thought I was reading the news. I was not. We
- 27:32Speaker 1: had a nanny cam under a glass desk. I could
- 27:35Speaker 1: see what was happening at home because I could not
- 27:37Speaker 1: concentrate while my children were without me, and I was
- 27:41Speaker 1: on the air, so that would call me Dan and
- 27:43Speaker 1: I could keep going. And I'm just thinking anyway, what
- 27:47Speaker 1: I was saying was he's six foot four. I said,
- 27:49Speaker 1: if you spank her, do it on the arm with
- 27:52Speaker 1: two fingers. That was her big spank and she would scream,
- 27:56Speaker 1: you know, out of the humiliation. What mom would stand
- 28:00Speaker 1: by and let the child be brutalized like this Crime
- 28:18Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about the death
- 28:23Speaker 1: a beautiful three year old girl. And I want to
- 28:27Speaker 1: give you a hot light number right now. It's for
- 28:31Speaker 1: child help child abuse. You can be anonymous eight hundred
- 28:36Speaker 1: four a child the number four or eight hundred four
- 28:41Speaker 1: two two four four five three, eight hundred four two
- 28:47Speaker 1: two four four five three. I think I heard Joe
- 28:51Speaker 1: Scott Morgan or Mark Klass say, O MG, when you
- 28:55Speaker 1: heard Diamond Chandler state that the mother kneeds her baby
- 29:01Speaker 1: was being attacked? Who was that just got her? That
- 29:04Speaker 1: was mean? And j P and Mark Well listening. We
- 29:06Speaker 1: have a situation here and we've discovered over the last
- 29:09Speaker 1: few minutes a multiple calls were made to both the
- 29:12Speaker 1: Michigan State Police and Child Protection Services over a number
- 29:18Speaker 1: of months leading up to this horrible, torturous murder homicide,
- 29:24Speaker 1: and in each instance, the authorities turned aside. CPS didn't care.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Every opportunity was afforded because of good neighbors, because of BIODAD,
- 29:38Speaker 1: because of other people to ensure that this little girl
- 29:42Speaker 1: had a chance, and Bio mom turned aside, Bio Grandma,
- 29:47Speaker 1: despite the fact that she was purchasing gifts for her,
- 29:51Speaker 1: she turned aside, and they allowed this man to torture
- 29:55Speaker 1: and murder this little girl. And I think there's a
- 29:58Speaker 1: special place in hell for people like that, not only
- 30:01Speaker 1: the person that did it, with the people the enablers
- 30:04Speaker 1: that allowed it to happen. Little Trinity never had a chance,
- 30:08Speaker 1: you know what. I'm also thinking about her life, Mark Lass,
- 30:12Speaker 1: what kind of life she led at just three, waking
- 30:15Speaker 1: up in the morning and being afraid to come out
- 30:19Speaker 1: of your bedroom, afraid you'll be beat by mommy's lover
- 30:23Speaker 1: and Mommy you'll just stand by and watch. Yeah, I mean,
- 30:29Speaker 1: you know. It reminds me of a case I had,
- 30:33Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, and it was actually a murder case, and
- 30:37Speaker 1: the sister of the murder victim and the whole family,
- 30:42Speaker 1: big huge family were like eight or nine children would
- 30:45Speaker 1: come to court every day, and I got very close
- 30:50Speaker 1: to one of the adult sisters and as it turned out,
- 30:53Speaker 1: her father had molested her since she was a child.
- 30:58Speaker 1: And the mother needs you and did nothing, and even
- 31:03Speaker 1: into her adult to Kathleen Murphy, her heart was broke
- 31:08Speaker 1: up because mother did nothing. I am that person that
- 31:12Speaker 1: does nothing. Because I go into the court system, I
- 31:17Speaker 1: show the court the problem. I explain, I yell, I scream,
- 31:21Speaker 1: I stomped, and still nothing gets done. And I try,
- 31:25Speaker 1: and I try, and I try. But you are faced
- 31:28Speaker 1: with a philosophy through the court system. It will take
- 31:32Speaker 1: seven million, three hundred and sixty five thousand pieces of
- 31:36Speaker 1: evidence to prove abuse, and it takes one person to
- 31:40Speaker 1: say I didn't do it, and the court says there's
- 31:42Speaker 1: no abuse and the child goes right back into the home.
- 31:45Speaker 1: Take a listen to see w d I V. Family
- 31:49Speaker 1: members tell us little Trinity's mom was doing her overnight
- 31:52Speaker 1: workshift at a nursing home. They say Smart was home
- 31:55Speaker 1: with Trinity and reported the family that Trinity wasn't waking
- 31:58Speaker 1: up in the morning and took her to a nearby
- 32:00Speaker 1: fire station. The little girl was dead. There's been multiple
- 32:04Speaker 1: CPS investigations and reports between mister Smart and three year
- 32:09Speaker 1: old Trinity Chandler. That MSP investigator just telling the court
- 32:14Speaker 1: there is video of a little girl being abused in
- 32:17Speaker 1: their evidence, and just a day before CPS investigators did
- 32:21Speaker 1: a welfare check on Trinity. I just got know it
- 32:24Speaker 1: again also this morning that CPS actually showed up to
- 32:27Speaker 1: do a welfare check with Trinity Friday where they observed injuries.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Are a welfare check by CPS where injuries to the
- 32:35Speaker 1: girl were seen. Nothing was done. The next day, little
- 32:39Speaker 1: Trinity was dead. Mark Class, I can't. I just don't
- 32:42Speaker 1: think I can take it. Another child CPS ignores. Now
- 32:47Speaker 1: I'm not saying they committed the murder. We already know
- 32:51Speaker 1: who committed the murder, but they did nothing. The child
- 32:55Speaker 1: has covered in bruises. They leave her there, Mark, they
- 32:58Speaker 1: should be charged. They are an institution that exists solely
- 33:02Speaker 1: to protect children from these kinds of situations, and they
- 33:06Speaker 1: completely and totally failed in their duty to little Trinity.
- 33:10Speaker 1: And I agree, I think there needs to be accountability
- 33:14Speaker 1: for the individuals that were involved in her case and
- 33:17Speaker 1: again turned a blind eye to her. I just don't
- 33:19Speaker 1: understand how you can and leave that child there, jump
- 33:23Speaker 1: and go. I have to say, Mark is exactly right,
- 33:27Speaker 1: and somebody needs to hold Social services accountable. And they
- 33:31Speaker 1: hide behind confidentiality. To Diamond Channeler, this is three year
- 33:36Speaker 1: old Trinity's aunt on the biological father's side, Diamond. Did
- 33:42Speaker 1: the family know that Child Protective Services had been in
- 33:46Speaker 1: and out of the home and did nothing. Absolutely, But
- 33:49Speaker 1: we didn't have much faith in them because Trinity's mother
- 33:52Speaker 1: had other children terminated her parental rights by CPS in
- 33:58Speaker 1: the past. Who has those children Trinity's mother had, she
- 34:04Speaker 1: got her rights terminated, and those children were adopted from
- 34:07Speaker 1: within the system. So I will never see those nieces
- 34:11Speaker 1: and nephews again either. But from the very first CPS report,
- 34:17Speaker 1: if that mother has already had children removed from her care,
- 34:21Speaker 1: the very first CPS report should have had a little
- 34:24Speaker 1: more suspicion. You dart right, guys, take a listen to
- 34:27Speaker 1: Sergeant Jonathan Walden with Metro North Place. There's been multiple
- 34:32Speaker 1: CPS investigations and reports between mister smart in three year
- 34:38Speaker 1: old Trinity Chandler. There is an active open child abuse
- 34:41Speaker 1: investigation that's being investigated by troopers and detectives here at
- 34:45Speaker 1: the Metro North Post. CPS actually showed up to do
- 34:49Speaker 1: a welfare check with Trinity on Friday where they observed
- 34:53Speaker 1: injuries to her, but they didn't feel bad enough to
- 34:55Speaker 1: remove them. Yeah, she was covered in bruises, and they
- 34:58Speaker 1: drove away from that home and left this defense, this
- 35:02Speaker 1: three year old girl who was dead less than twenty
- 35:05Speaker 1: four hours later. This guy Samuel Smart pushing thirty. What
- 35:12Speaker 1: can you tell me about him? Ray Kiputo wdbo. What
- 35:15Speaker 1: do we know about Samuel Smart? Sounds like he's a
- 35:18Speaker 1: pretty good liar given what he is accused of right
- 35:21Speaker 1: now in Nancy, because just ninety four, when mom was
- 35:25Speaker 1: at work, Smart sends a video to her of Trinity
- 35:29Speaker 1: playing with blocks. Looks like everything is all well, and
- 35:32Speaker 1: then the next morning, this little child rates up and
- 35:35Speaker 1: is unresponsive to me. It sounds like, also we can't
- 35:38Speaker 1: you know, we don't know the relationship between the boyfriend
- 35:42Speaker 1: and the mom, but it sounds like he would spend
- 35:44Speaker 1: him some lives and giving her a false sense of comfort.
- 35:47Speaker 1: But nevertheless, I mean he's listening, you know what. I
- 35:51Speaker 1: appreciate that, Ray Kaputo, But the child's carvin and bruises.
- 35:54Speaker 1: I don't care what video he sends me. That would
- 35:57Speaker 1: end day one? And what can you tell me, kaput
- 36:00Speaker 1: wdbo about this so called video showing the little girl
- 36:03Speaker 1: getting abused? And Child Protective Services still sits here with
- 36:07Speaker 1: their thumb up their rear end. What video, Danthy, I
- 36:11Speaker 1: haven't seen the video and I haven't been described the contents. Okay,
- 36:15Speaker 1: hold on, Diamond Chandler, do you know about a video
- 36:17Speaker 1: of her being ABS have heard about the video. I
- 36:20Speaker 1: have not seen it myself, and I have not seen
- 36:23Speaker 1: a report about it. I'd like to know what that is.
- 36:25Speaker 1: But apparently CPS had that as well. We now know
- 36:30Speaker 1: that Samuel Smarton has been taken into custody relating to
- 36:34Speaker 1: the child's death. But what about mommy, Mark Klass, Why
- 36:42Speaker 1: is it the mom charged for leaving the child with
- 36:45Speaker 1: a known abuser. I think that's a great question. She's
- 36:47Speaker 1: obviously complicit because she allowed this to happen over long
- 36:51Speaker 1: periods of time, and there's documented proof of that, through
- 36:56Speaker 1: through through investigations, through reports, and through pictures and Chammer,
- 37:00Speaker 1: what is the mother saying? He is saying that she
- 37:03Speaker 1: never thought in a million years he would do this,
- 37:05Speaker 1: even though he's heard her before, which seems like a
- 37:09Speaker 1: pretty weak defense to me. If you knew that he's
- 37:12Speaker 1: heard her once, how would you not think that he
- 37:14Speaker 1: would hurt her again? Obviously Defects Department Family Children's Services CPS,
- 37:19Speaker 1: CHOP Protective services are not going to help the children
- 37:22Speaker 1: of this country. They will leave them to be murdered brutally.
- 37:26Speaker 1: That's why it's so important that we join together. If
- 37:30Speaker 1: you know, if you see, if you hear, if you
- 37:33Speaker 1: think you know anything, please dial Child Help Child Abuse
- 37:38Speaker 1: Hotline eight hundred four two two four four five three.
- 37:43Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds Nancy Grace's crime story, signing
- 37:48Speaker 1: off for goodness it