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Where to Caulk Before Painting + Laundry Room Layout Fixes + Paint Colors for Colorblind Homes · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, thanks for tuning in.
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I've got to get through this week, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to jump right in, no dilly dallying, no nonsense,
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  Speaker 2: getting straight to work. Coming up at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the show, I'm tackling a listener topic that I absolutely
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  Speaker 2: loved digging into The question or the topic is how
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  Speaker 2: to choose paint colors when you or someone in your
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  Speaker 2: home is colorblind. It's really fascinating and it affects way
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  Speaker 2: more people than most of us realize. So we'll get
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  Speaker 2: to that at the end. We'll also continue our deep
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  Speaker 2: dive into making laundry rooms more efficient. You know, sit down,
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  Speaker 2: hold on to something. I don't want you to pass
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  Speaker 2: out from the excitement. But we will be talking about
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  Speaker 2: how to make laundry rooms more efficient. And I've got
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  Speaker 2: some clever ideas, some clever DIY upgrades that will really
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  Speaker 2: make a difference. And of course they're clever. Have you
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  Speaker 2: ever known me to not have a clever idea?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're all pretty clever. Some might even say brilliant. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to the clever ones. I'm saving the brilliant
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  Speaker 2: ones for another day. But before we get to all
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  Speaker 2: of that stuff, I want to talk about one of
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  Speaker 2: the most overlooked and most telling steps in an interior
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  Speaker 2: paint project, calking before you paint, specifically where you should
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  Speaker 2: cock and where you absolutely shouldn't cack, because when you
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  Speaker 2: do it wrong or you don't do it where you
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  Speaker 2: should have done it, it really shows up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's so visible.
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  Speaker 2: I had a painter friend once that talked about how
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  Speaker 2: he could walk into any home and in about thirty seconds,
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  Speaker 2: he said he would know if the house had been
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  Speaker 2: painted by a professional painter or a di wire and
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  Speaker 2: it was all about the cack. You know, where the
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  Speaker 2: cock was used, where it wasn't used, and how well
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  Speaker 2: it was used. So let's talk about all of that,
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  Speaker 2: and let's start with the obvious question. You know, why
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  Speaker 2: does calk matter so much in the first place? Well,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't really this houses move. You know, they settle,
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  Speaker 2: they expand they contract with every single season, and over time,
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  Speaker 2: small gaps are going to open up between trim and walls,
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  Speaker 2: moldings and ceilings, jams, baseboards, you name it. Now, those
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  Speaker 2: gaps they might be tiny, but when you've got a
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  Speaker 2: fresh code of paint, a new code of paint, there,
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  Speaker 2: they're really really visible. Calk is going to bridge those transitions.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to give your paint a clean edge to follow,
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  Speaker 2: and it's also going to keep moisture from creeping in.
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  Speaker 2: So in a space like a bathroom, it's got an
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  Speaker 2: added benefit.
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  Speaker 1: So calk's important.
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  Speaker 2: Let's move on to where you should be using it,
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  Speaker 2: and let's start with one of the most obvious places baseboards.
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  Speaker 2: You know most of us know this, but you should
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  Speaker 2: calk the top edge where the baseboard meets the wall.
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  Speaker 2: In older homes especially, that gap is almost always there,
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  Speaker 2: and filling it before you paint makes that joint disappear completely, right,
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  Speaker 2: So that's one area absolutely should be calked. Moving onto
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  Speaker 2: the door and windowcasing, you should calk where the outer
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  Speaker 2: the trim meets the wall. And here's a spot that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of di wires miss. The inside of the doorcasing.
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  Speaker 2: You know where the jam meets the doorstop, and where
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  Speaker 2: those pieces meet the wall and the baseboard below. You
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  Speaker 2: should caulk in there. It's detailed. It's tight work. But
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  Speaker 2: if you skip it, you're going to see it. You're
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  Speaker 2: left with these visible shadow lines that paint isn't going
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  Speaker 2: to hide. So calk that area. Crown molding, that's another
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  Speaker 2: big one. Caulk where it meets the ceiling. Calk where
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  Speaker 2: it meets the wall. Both of those lines matter. If
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  Speaker 2: you're painting built ins or cabinets, calk every scene where
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  Speaker 2: they meet the wall or the ceiling. And if you're
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  Speaker 2: painting the inside of a built in, you know the
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  Speaker 2: actual box itself. Calk every interior corner. You know, where
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  Speaker 2: the back meets the sides, where the top meets the sides,
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  Speaker 2: where the shelves land. You know, provided the shelves aren't
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  Speaker 2: designed as removable, you will be sorely disappointed if you
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  Speaker 2: calk those and then try to remove them later, and
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  Speaker 2: you've got to struggle with calk, and then you'll shake
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  Speaker 2: your fist at the radio and say that little guy
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  Speaker 2: from Repcolite said to calk that, and then hopefully someone
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  Speaker 2: in your home will say, no, no, no, he said.
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  Speaker 2: If they're not designed to be removable, then you may
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  Speaker 2: caulk them. If they are designed to be removable, don't
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  Speaker 2: calk those all right, chair rail wainscoating, you know you
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  Speaker 2: should be calking the top and bottom edges and any
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  Speaker 2: seams in the panels. There's more places, you know that
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  Speaker 2: I could go to, but that's going to give you
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  Speaker 2: a really solid start. Now let's flip it around because
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  Speaker 2: knowing where not to caulk is just as important.
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  Speaker 1: And let's start with nail holes in trim.
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  Speaker 2: Not everybody would reach for calk for this, but there's
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  Speaker 2: a surprising number of people that want to. But this
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  Speaker 2: is not where you would uselk. Calk is soft, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to shrink as it dries. It can't be sanded smooth.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna end up with a dimple or a shadow
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  Speaker 2: or a slightly different sheen right where the hole was.
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  Speaker 1: So for nails in wood trim, use wood filler. Use spackle.
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  Speaker 2: For nails in dry wall, sometimes people will want to
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  Speaker 2: caulk those.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what caulk is for.
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  Speaker 2: Use joint compound if you've got a lot of them.
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  Speaker 2: If there's just a few nail holes, you can get
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  Speaker 2: by with spackling. Now another spot where some people reach
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  Speaker 2: for calk when they shouldn't is miter corners.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Picture the trim around your door.
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  Speaker 2: Two vertical side pieces meet the horizontal top piece at
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  Speaker 2: a forty five degree angle.
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  Speaker 1: On a fresh install or in an older home.
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  Speaker 2: Where things maybe have shifted, that joint can open up
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  Speaker 2: just enough to be noticeable. It seems to some folks
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  Speaker 2: like a perfect place for calk, but again, that's not
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  Speaker 2: the right place for calk. Shrinks that stays soft, it
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  Speaker 2: can't be sanded flush. What you need there is wood
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  Speaker 2: filler or spackle, something you can sand perfectly smooth and
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  Speaker 2: flat once it dries, so that corner looks sharp and
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  Speaker 2: tight underpaint. Moving on, If you've got a crack running
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  Speaker 2: across your dry walled wall, that's another job for spackle
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  Speaker 2: or joint compound, not calk. And since we're talking about drywall,
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  Speaker 2: don't calk drywall inside corners. Inside drywall corners are designed
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  Speaker 2: to be taped and mudded, and for good reason, joint
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  Speaker 2: compound can be feathered and sanded to become completely invisible.
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  Speaker 2: Calk isn't gonna let you achieve that same look. When
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  Speaker 2: two pieces of trim meat at a miterred outside corner
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  Speaker 2: and that joint has opened up, the professional fix there again,
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  Speaker 2: is wood filler or a spackle, not calk. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you need something that you can sand perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: Flush. Calk is never gonna sand easily. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about cabinet doors, because this is where
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  Speaker 2: a lot of well meaning di wires get into some trouble.
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  Speaker 2: If you have raised panel or shaker style cabinet doors
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  Speaker 2: and they're made of solid wood, that center panel is
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  Speaker 2: designed to float, Okay. It sits in a groove so
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  Speaker 2: it can expand and contract with the humidity and the
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  Speaker 2: temperature changes. It's not glued in place, and that's intentional
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  Speaker 2: when it's manufactured. If you run kulk around the panel
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  Speaker 2: to make it look seamless, you know, for a paint job,
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  Speaker 2: it will look great, you know, for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But when that panel moves and it's gonna move, the
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  Speaker 2: calk is gonna wrinkle, it's gonna crack, or it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: pull loose, and that's way harder to fix later. So generally,
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  Speaker 2: if it's solid wood and it's a five piece door,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with that floating panel, don't calk around those
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  Speaker 2: edges there. It's just going to be a mess down
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  Speaker 2: the road. If you're dealing with MDF cabinet doors, that's
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  Speaker 2: potentially different. You know, MDF moves very little compared to
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  Speaker 2: solid wood, and in many cases, you know that panel,
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  Speaker 2: that center panel is glued in place right at the
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  Speaker 2: manufacturing you know, facility, right at the factory. So caulking
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  Speaker 2: those joints is generally fine and it's going to hold
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  Speaker 2: long term. But when we talk to painters, you know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of them just won't calk those areas regardless.
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  Speaker 1: They just don't want.
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  Speaker 2: To touch it because they're worried about it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: failing down the road. Okay, if you've got a project
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  Speaker 2: going on and now you're starting to think that maybe
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  Speaker 2: you should do a little calking before you start your paint.
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  Speaker 2: project coming up, all right, Laundry rooms. We started talking
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  Speaker 2: about them last week and I asked, the big question,
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  Speaker 2: is yours working as efficiently as you'd like it to be? Well,
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  Speaker 2: if that's not the case, I've got some tips and
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  Speaker 2: tricks and some clever little DIY projects that are gonna help.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that right after. This home
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  Speaker 2: just another line item on the project's supply list.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Everything you do, every hour of prep, every stroke of
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  Speaker 2: the brush, all comes down to the quality of the paint.
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  Speaker 1: The paint is the project. Make sure it's the best. Well.
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  Speaker 2: Last week we started a pretty exciting topic. I was
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  Speaker 2: thrilled to dig into it, but it actually was helpful.
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  Speaker 2: It's laundry rooms.
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  Speaker 1: Laundry rooms.
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  Speaker 2: We started talking about laundry room organization and thinking about flow,
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  Speaker 2: you know, thinking about how dirty clothes move into your system,
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  Speaker 2: how they get processed, and then how they flow back
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  Speaker 2: out to your family. Now today we're diving into the
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  Speaker 2: heart of the operation, right where all the magic happens.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about the processing zone and that critical exit
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  Speaker 2: point where clean clothes need to get folded and put away.
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  Speaker 2: You know, processing zone, exit point fancy ways of saying,
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  Speaker 2: the place where you wash everything up, the place where
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  Speaker 2: you dry everything, and then you know how you get
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  Speaker 2: the clothes and bring them back to your people.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: So let's jump in and I think there's a ton
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  Speaker 2: of good stuff here. Not everything's going to apply to everybody,
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  Speaker 2: but there's good pieces in this that I think everybody
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  Speaker 2: can grab little bits of it and use it. So
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  Speaker 2: the whole processing zone, let's let's keep going with that,
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  Speaker 2: the actual washing, in the drying of the clothes. Now,
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  Speaker 2: in this space, we can affect the flow by good organization. No,
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  Speaker 2: if everything you need is within reach, you can cut
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  Speaker 2: down on time spent going back and forth. Right, So
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  Speaker 2: let's focus on getting all those things that you need,
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  Speaker 2: all the supplies and the products and the other stuff
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  Speaker 2: and get it cleanly organized and a great place to
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  Speaker 2: start when you're doing This is to look up. And
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  Speaker 2: really this is good advice for a lot of different
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  Speaker 2: spaces in your home, right, a lot of different spaces
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  Speaker 2: where you're feeling cramped for space where storage solutions don't
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  Speaker 2: seem possible.
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  Speaker 1: Look up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, people massively overlook vertical space. So often we
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  Speaker 2: think of storage in terms of cabinets, encounters, things like that,
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  Speaker 2: waist heightened down.
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  Speaker 1: Especially people of my.
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  Speaker 2: Size, you know my height, we don't look up ever, ever, ever,
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  Speaker 2: we're always looking waist heightened down.
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  Speaker 1: But look up. You know, shelves above, machines, hooks on.
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  Speaker 2: The wall, peg board, you know, those things don't just
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  Speaker 2: add storage, They get stuff off the floor, which immediately
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  Speaker 2: makes the room feel calmer and bigger.
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  Speaker 1: So look up.
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  Speaker 2: See what space is available to you, what can you
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  Speaker 2: do with it? And no matter what, the space that
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  Speaker 2: you've got looks like. The Internet is literally full of
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  Speaker 2: crazy cool ideas. I mean, just go to Google image
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  Speaker 2: search and type in cool DIY shelving solutions for a
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  Speaker 2: small laundry room. You know, hit search and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to find tons of ideas out there, and even if
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  Speaker 2: none of them are perfect, you're going to find parts
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  Speaker 2: of different ones that could work together to solve storage
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  Speaker 2: problems that you may be feeling in your space.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so look up.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say that you did that and you've found some
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  Speaker 2: vertical storage above your machines for supplies or wherever you
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  Speaker 2: found storage for that. Now, let's talk about the product
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  Speaker 2: storage itself, because this is where a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: get tripped up in their flow. Now, the goal here
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  Speaker 2: when you're organizing all your supplies and all of that
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  Speaker 2: is to prioritize flow and function over esthetics. So keep
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  Speaker 2: the items that you need close to the places that
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  Speaker 2: you need to use, and worry more about making them
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  Speaker 2: usable than making them beautiful. What in the world am
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  Speaker 2: I talking about? Well, I'm getting at this. You'll see
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  Speaker 2: lots of instagram perfect laundry rooms where people have decanted
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  Speaker 2: all their detergents and their products into matching glass jars
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  Speaker 2: and dispensers. Right, we've all seen that. It looks great.
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  Speaker 2: It really does. But here's what I want you to
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  Speaker 2: know before you go that route. There are some real
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  Speaker 2: safety and practical reasons to just keep things in their ugly,
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  Speaker 2: old original containers. First and foremost, if you've got little
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  Speaker 2: kids in the house, a lot of those pods and
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  Speaker 2: pebbles and powders look just like candy, and without the
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  Speaker 2: packaging present, you lose all of the safety information that
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  Speaker 2: you might need if you're ever facing an incident where
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  Speaker 2: a kid got into some of those things.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you definitely don't want to be trying to
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  Speaker 1: remember what.
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  Speaker 2: Product was actually in that jar, and you certainly want
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  Speaker 2: to have that safety info on hand should something horrible happen.
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  Speaker 1: So that's one reason. A second reason.
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  Speaker 2: Not to do this is because the container all have
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  Speaker 2: instructions right on them. You know how much to use,
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  Speaker 2: what temperature works best, whether it's safe for certain fabrics,
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  Speaker 2: all of that stuff. When you decant into a new container,
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  Speaker 2: unless you're super diligent about transferring all that information, you're
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  Speaker 2: losing valuable info here. And honestly, most of us are
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  Speaker 2: probably not going to write everything out. We're probably going
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  Speaker 2: to tell ourselves that we don't need to write it
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  Speaker 2: out because we just know that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Hold that thought. We're going to get back to that
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  Speaker 1: in a minute.
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  Speaker 2: The third reason that I think it's important and this
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  Speaker 2: surprised me when I learned it, and well, I was
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  Speaker 2: going to say, I'm not surprised. Very often and this
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  Speaker 2: was a big surprise. That's not true. I live in
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  Speaker 2: a perpetual state of surprise. My mouth is open all
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  Speaker 2: the time because new things are happening that I never
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  Speaker 2: saw coming all the time. But this did surprise me.
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  Speaker 2: This was one of those new things that caught me
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  Speaker 2: off guard. And really not like I cared a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest. You know it's a surprise. Did I
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  Speaker 2: really care a whole lot?
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  Speaker 1: No? Maybe you do.
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  Speaker 2: Liquid detergent can actually break down faster when it's stored
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  Speaker 2: in clear glass containers or exposed to light. Did you
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  Speaker 2: hear that, the collective gasp from everybody listening. It could
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  Speaker 2: possibly break down faster if it's in glass containers or
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  Speaker 2: exposed to the light. I'm sure this is a surprise
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  Speaker 2: that is rocking West Michigan right now. But even if
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  Speaker 2: it's not rocking your world, if you keep things in
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  Speaker 2: the original containers, the opaque bottles that they come in,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to stay good for about six months or so.
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  Speaker 2: After opening. In a clear container, it's going to break
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  Speaker 2: down much faster, meaning it's going to be less effective
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  Speaker 2: at cleaning your clothes.
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  Speaker 1: So all of those.
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  Speaker 2: Are good reasons to just keep things in the right bottles.
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  Speaker 2: But here's my favorite reason, because I'm a practical thinker.
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  Speaker 2: If everything is in its correct container, with the proper
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  Speaker 2: instructions right there, technically anybody in the house can use
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  Speaker 2: those items to do the laundry. You know, I told
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  Speaker 2: you to hold that thought when I you know, when
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  Speaker 2: I talked about how the instructions aren't on the glass containers.
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  Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people are thinking, who
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  Speaker 2: needs the instructions? Well, you might not, but the people
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  Speaker 2: in your house may not be as savvy at how
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  Speaker 2: the laundry works.
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  Speaker 1: As you are.
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  Speaker 2: And if the instructions are there, at least technically they
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  Speaker 2: could be. And I'm going back to that original concept
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  Speaker 2: that I keep stressing. If you build a system, you've
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  Speaker 2: got to keep it simple if you want people to
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  Speaker 2: use it. If you decant your detergents and your fabric
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  Speaker 2: softeners and other supplies into beautiful little bottles, you will
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  Speaker 2: likely have no problems knowing exactly what's what and how
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  Speaker 2: to use it. But when your spouse comes in, it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty possible, you know, spouses, it's pretty possible that it's
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  Speaker 2: all confusing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what's what?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know it's all nuts in here. Everything looks
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  Speaker 2: the same. And here's some human insight, some free psychology.
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  Speaker 2: Even if your spouse can figure out what each one
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  Speaker 2: is the fact that he or she has a logical
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  Speaker 2: excuse is often good enough reason for the human mind
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  Speaker 2: to decide not to tackle the project. You know, they've
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: got plausible deniability here, since they didn't want to do
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: the laundry in the first place.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty easy out.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Don't give people an easy out' that's how the flow
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: breaks down. Don't give them an easy out. Don't require
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: people to be able to identify laundry detergent and fabric
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: softener and whatever else you might use by sight in
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: a glass bottle. Keep things simple and people will be
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: more likely to use them, all right, But some people
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: really want to get those items out of those original
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: packages and get them into cool little glass jars. Anyway,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: despite everything I said. If that's you, here's how you
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: Safely.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Powder detergent safest thing to DeCamp. Put it in an
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: airtight container to prevent clumping from humidity. Label it clearly
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: with the product name and how much to use, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: you're good to go. Never and I mean never mix
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: different types of detergent in one container. Potentially they could
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: create dangerous chemical reactions. So just don't mix cleaners. I
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: think we all know that. But if you don't, don't
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: do it. But honestly, really, for most families, the best
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: solution is what I said earlier. It's simpler keep the
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: products in their original containers and just organize them better.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Use a lazy susan or a small you know, a
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: little bin or something to corral all the bottles, group
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: them by category.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And that way everything is contained. It's safe.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: You've got the instructions when you need them, and your
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: processing zone you know, the washing, drying and all that
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: stays efficient without risks. All right, quickly, here are some
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: additional storage solutions, you know, depending on your space. Just
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: going to reel them off as fast as I can.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Just think about them behind the door, you know, if
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you've got a door, whether it's a closet door or
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the room door, this area can accommodate over the door
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: hooks for things like an ironing board.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: If you use that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: You can also hang a mesh storage system here and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: store all kinds of necessary goodies if space is tight. Elsewhere,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: peg boards something you may not think about in a
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: laundry room, but honestly they're perfect. You can customize the configuration,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you can add baskets and hooks and shelves. You can
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: rearrange it as needed. They're especially great for awkward wall
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: spaces that wouldn't fit standard shelving. Plus you can see
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: everything at a glance, which keeps the flow moving. You
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: know you're not digging through cabinets or getting out ladders,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: so you can reach.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Your shelves that you created.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Should that be an issue in your space, if you're
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: really tight on space, you know you've got your washing
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: machine and your dryer in a closet, Maybe think slim
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: rolling carts that can slide into the gap beside the
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: washer and the dryer. Use the back of the closet
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: door if you have to, like we talked about earlier,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: install tension rods up high for items that you want
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to air dry or hang straight from the dryer. You know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: pretty much every little bit of vertical and awkward space
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that you capture and convert means less clutter in your path.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: You know your work path, so check into all of
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: that vertical storage and good organization. Do everything you can
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: to get supplies and materials off the washer and the dryer,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: off the floor and off your counters. And speaking of counters,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: they're key for the next part of the process. The
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: folding zone our last stop in this exciting laundry room adventure,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna get to them right after. This home
• 19:03
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  Speaker 1: Think about it.
• 19:07
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• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Don't throw all that work away with an inferior product.
• 19:13
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  Speaker 2: Make sure it's the best. We're wrapping up our riveting
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  Speaker 2: focus on helping you improve the flow in your laundry room.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be an entire greatest Hits episode. Someday will
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: be this whole laundry epic that I went through. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: someday people will watch this or listen to this in
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the same manner and with the same excitement and with
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the same nostalgia.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: With which they watch. Let's say, Lord of the Rings.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: You know, an amazing movie that my family will collect
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and around the television and watch and reminisce and just
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: enjoy that same sense of you know, pleasure and fulfillment
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: is going to someday be out there when people gather
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: around their audio device, whatever that looks like in the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: future sometime and they listen to all of these laundry
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: segments back to back to back, it's going to be
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: just like Lord of the Rings someday for your children.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: But right now, we've got to get through it, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I've got to just keep moving in order to do that. Now,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the last segment we talked about the second part of
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the process, the washing process, the processing zone, you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: just a fancy way of saying washing and drying part
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: of things. The big takeaway in that part is to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: give yourself enough storage solutions so you can get your
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: washer and your dryer and your counters cleaned off and free.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Now there's more takeaways. You want to create flow. You
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: just did an easy work environment. But the main thing
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I was after in all of that was to get
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: their washer and the dryer and the counters cleaned off
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: and free. Because the counters, let's look at them first,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: they're important. If you've got them, you know, they're greatful stations.
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  Speaker 2: If the counters are full, it's going to bottleneck things,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not going to stop the process. And
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: a full counter isn't the reason that clean clothes come
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: out of the dryer and then pile up in baskets
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: until everybody forgets if they're clean or not. You know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Messy counters aren't the reason that happens, but they don't help.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's like we've been talking about over and over again
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: with every system. If things aren't as easy as possible,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: this system is going to break down. If you have
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: an area that you use for folding, but it's not
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: always available and ready for use, it's going to be
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: an extra step that you've got to take, and that's
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: not good for systems. So find other storage solutions for
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: your detergents and all those other supplies and get the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: counters clean. And even if you don't have counters in
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: your laundry room, you know, if you don't have a
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: folding station there, adding one can really really help things along.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: You know, we don't have one, and man, I feel
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the pain of that with every single load that needs
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: to be folded, and even minor pain that's not conducive
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to a well functioning system. Now our situation, We've got
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to carry the laundry out of the room and into
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: another space because there's just nowhere that I've got right
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: now for folding clothes in the laundry room, So I've
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: got to take them somewhere else, of course, and the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: most central location that I can do this, you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: besides the actual laundry room, which really, as I was
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: preparing this segment.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I started to stop.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: To think about it, and the laundry room really is
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the ideal central location in my house.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: The next best area that I've got is the dining
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: room perhaps, or the living room. So if I walk
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: into the dining room and if nobody's working at the table,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you know, doing homework or something, maybe I can fold
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the clothes there. It's kind of nice because it's a table,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: but it's also kind of a pain because all the
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: chairs are in the way. It sounds like like I'm
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: such a such a delicate soul, but it is frustrating
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: when you've got to move all the chairs out of
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the way or a number of them so you've got
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: access to the table to do the full It's again,
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  Speaker 2: it's an extra step. For some reason, I generally don't
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: fold there, and I think that's it. It's just one
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  Speaker 2: extra thing I just don't want to do. So the
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: next thing I do, the next best is to take
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  Speaker 2: it to the living room and just sit on the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: floor and do all the folding right there. Now, that
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: is okay, But I've got dogs, and the dogs go
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: about crazy when you sit down on the floor with laundry.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: You know, there's warm clothes.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: That they can lay on, socks that they can just
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: sniff and sniff and sniff like there's no tomorrow.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: The socks are about as exciting as it gets if
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: you're a dog. They'll smell those things till the cows
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: come home. Or they just want loads of attention. Right
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there, I'm at face level with them, and
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: all they want to do is sniff me my ears,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: my nose, my face. They want to just be enjoyed
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and pat and it's a real pain in the neck.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And on top of all of that, on top of
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: all of that, I'm fifty three. You know, I'm incredible fit.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I'm fit. Let's just say that. Let's leave the incredibly off.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Let's just say I'm not unfit. But even then even
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: with that said, getting up and down off the floor,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: it's not the ideal. You know, that's not the best
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: way to do laundry. Now I walk through all of that,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you know, just because for me, that's where the whole
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: system breaks down, you know, because I've got to do
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: all of that, the system breaks down.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: It's just not convenient. So it gets put off more
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: than it would be.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: If it was convenient. And that's that's the point. It's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: not fun in any situation. We're not talking about making
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: laundry fun. We're talking about making it convenient. And when
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: it's convenient, it's more likely to get done. If there's
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a lot you've got to overcome, you're gonna drag your feet.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So all of that to say, blah blah blah, I
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: am so sorry, I just rambled out and on all
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: of that to say, look for ways to add a
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: dedicated folding station into your laundry area however you can.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And before you say there's no space, there might be.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you just need be a little creative.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: If you've got front loading machines, this is super straightforward,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: you know, just install a countertop right over the washer
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: in the dryer get a piece of butcher block, cut
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: it down to size, add some brackets or cleats for support,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and there you go. You've got a decent folding station.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: But what if you've got a top loading washer. That's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: what I've got, and you're thinking, that's not gonna work
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: for me, right because I can build a shelf there,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: But then I got to open the open the washer
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: maybe like three inches until it hits the shelf, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: then just cram clothes down there. I'm gonna need a
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: ramming rod, you know, to get the clothes into the washer. No, don't,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: don't do that. There's a better solution. A number of
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: different ways around it. One of them is a hinged countertop.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: It's a DIY project. It's become pretty popular. I mean,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: again the internet, what's not popular. You know, saying that's
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: popular is kind of done because everything's popular on the Internet.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Somebody somewhere has done it, and somebody else has said
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that's cool.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But there are.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Plenty of places that you can go to find these
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: little DIY p you know. Basically, you build a countertop
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that's attached to the wall with hinges along the back,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and you fold it up, brace it in place. With
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: a little locking mechanism while you load the washer or
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: unload the washer, and then you can release that and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: let it down and your folding table is right there.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Another route is to install your countertop in two pieces
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: that meet in the middle and mount it with hinges
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: on the short side, so that one side folds up
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: over the washer, the other side folds the other direction
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: over the dryer, and you've got access again. You pin
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: them in place with little brackets or something like that,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and then you lower them back in place when you
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: want to do the folding. There are tutorials for this
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: all over the internet, you know, TikTok YouTube. It's really
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: doable for somebody with even the most basic of DIY skills.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I've linked to a couple of these in the show
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: notes and on the home in Progress Facebook page if
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you want to check it out. Now, here's something really important.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: No matter which route you go, don't build anything so
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: permanent that you can't move your machines. You're eventually going
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: to need to pull the machines out for repairs, to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: clean behind them, to replace hoses, or you know, even
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: when it's time to buy new ones. So don't build
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: them in you know, don't make the shelf permanent. Seeing
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: plenty of tutorials for modular counters, usually made of wood
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: planks with support beams, and they just sit on top,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you know, on brackets above your machines. They're designed to
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: be easily lifted off and set aside when you need
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: to get at the washer of the dryer. I've got
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a link to that on the home in Progress Facebook
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: page as well, so check that out. Another cool thing
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: with that build is that they've left an access point
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: for the water hookups. That's really smart, you know, don't
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: bury your water hookups under the counter that you build. Anyway,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Giving yourself dedicated workspace for folding can really really help.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: So if it's doable in your space, think about it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And one last thing along these lines that really helps flow.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: You need somewhere usually for items that are air drying.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: You know, I touched on this briefly last segment, very briefly,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: but hanging a drying rack wall mounted or freestanding that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: can be essential for some homes. You can't put everything
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: in the dryer all the time. Delicate certain fabrics, they
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: just need to go somewhere that's not draped over every
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: chair in your house, or laid across the bed, or
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: however you handle those things in your home. Outdoor clothes lines,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: those are great options if that's doable for you. But
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: even a retractable indoor clothes line could work. You know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: string it across the room when you need it, retract
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: it when you don't. Again, if you're thinking it's not
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: possible in your space, google indoor drying racks for clothes
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and just look at all the things. People have come
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: up with a lot of great ideas out there.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Check it out.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: All right, that's enough laundry for this week. Next week,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: we're going to wrap all of this up and conclude
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: by tackling the routine itself. You know, how to maintain
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the flow daily so you never fall behind, how to
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: get your family involved.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So the work kind of can be distributed amongst the people.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about how to troubleshoot when flow problems pop up,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: and we'll also talk about making the space actually pleasant
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: to be in, right, because we all deserve that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: If we're gonna be.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: In there, we may as well enjoy it as much
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: as possible.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: We might as well not hate it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Let's say it that way, all right, if somebody in
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: your home is colorblind, how does that affect the colors
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that you choose when you're getting ready to repaint. It's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: a really interesting question, and we're going to dig into
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: it right after this. You're listening to Home in Progress,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: where the projects are real, the mistakes, they're educational, sometimes painful,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: mostly educational. And the only thing more stubborn than that
• 29:35
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• 29:38
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• 29:42
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• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you need to get the job done right. This segment
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: comes from a listener Tom wrote in and he asked
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: me to dig into something that I honestly have never
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: covered before. I really hadn't even thought about it before.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: How do you choose paint colors when you or someone
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: in your home is colorblind? At first, I wasn't sure
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: how how wide ranging this topic would be, how big
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: of an audience this would actually impact. But the more
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I researched it, the more fascinating it became. It isn't
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a niche topic. This is real life for a lot
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: of people sitting in their homes right now. Probably listening
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: to me right now. You know, they're seeing their walls
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: in a way that most of us simply don't. So
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: let's dig into this whole thing, and let's start with
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I think maybe the biggest misconception of all when it
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: comes to color blindness, perhaps the biggest misconception. When most
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: people hear color blind, or at least when lots of
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: people hear it, they tend to picture kind of a
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: black and white world, you know, like an old movie.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: That misconception is pretty common. Companies like en Chroma, I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: don't know if you're familiar with them.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: You probably are. You may not know that you are.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: You've probably seen videos online on the Facebook, on the Instagram,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: on the TikTok where somebody where it puts on these
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: color corrective glasses, you know, and they see true color
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: for the first time. You know, it's always somebody who
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: starts crying. Then everybody else is crying.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: And then you know, we're all crying, and it's one
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: of those videos.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Right Anyway, that company and Chroma, they make those glasses.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: They report that one of the most frequent questions people
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: ask of colorblind people is basically, this, so everything's black
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and white?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: That's how you see. So it's a pretty common misconception.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: It's not true.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: The vast majority of people with color vision deficiency do
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: see color. They just don't see the same color range
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: or contrast distinctions that others do. You know, someone with
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: typical color vision can distinguish millions, millions of shades. A
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: person with color vision deficiency may experience entire bands of
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: color that are compressed or indistinguishable, you know, especially along
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: that red green spectrum, And so what looks clearly different
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: to one person may look nearly identical somebody with color
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: vision deficiency total color blindness called a chromatopsia, if that's
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: pronounced correctly, which very good chance it's not. It's extremely rare,
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  Speaker 2: affecting roughly one in thirty thousand to forty thousand people,
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  Speaker 2: you know, So for almost everybody else who's color blind,
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  Speaker 2: it's not about seeing no color. It's about colors blending
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  Speaker 2: or losing contrast where they shouldn't. All right, So that's
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  Speaker 2: what color blindness is, what's actually happening. Why does that
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  Speaker 2: come about in the first place, Well, your eye has
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  Speaker 2: three types of cone cells. I'm not going to get
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  Speaker 2: all sciency here, but we do need a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Your eye has three types of cone cells that are
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  Speaker 2: sensitive to long, medium, and short wavelengths roughly red, green,
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  Speaker 2: and blue light. When one type doesn't function fully, parts
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  Speaker 2: of the spectrum begin to overlap.
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  Speaker 1: Now do to anomaly.
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  Speaker 2: That's the fifth book in the Bible, Genesis Exodus Leviticus
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  Speaker 2: numbers anomaly. Deter anomaly is a reduced sensitivity to green,
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  Speaker 2: and it's the most common form of color blindness or
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  Speaker 2: color vision deficiency. To get with prot anomaly, which has
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  Speaker 2: reduced sensitivity to red. These red green deficiencies make up
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  Speaker 2: about ninety to ninety five percent of all color vision deficiencies. Now,
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  Speaker 2: blue yellow deficiencies they also figure in, but they're much rarer.
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  Speaker 2: And then we've got the true total color blindness that
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  Speaker 2: is way less than even one percent. Before we move on,
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  Speaker 2: I got one other surprising fact. About eight percent of
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  Speaker 2: men and about a half percent of women worldwide experience
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  Speaker 2: some form of color vision deficiency, and in talking about men,
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  Speaker 2: that's roughly one in twelve. So statistically, in pretty much
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  Speaker 2: any gathering that we're in, somebody there is navigating this. So,
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  Speaker 2: like I said at the beginning, it's not just a
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  Speaker 2: niche topic. That only applies to a few people. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of us can be dealing with this, and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people don't even realize that they are color blind.
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  Speaker 2: If you grow up knowing leaves are green, you call
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  Speaker 2: that color that you see, even if it doesn't match
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  Speaker 2: what others see. Many people only discover it when something
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  Speaker 2: doesn't line up, you know, a classroom confusion, a job screening,
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  Speaker 2: an eye exam, something like that exposes the issue, and
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  Speaker 2: that's when they find out. Advacy groups estimate that a
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  Speaker 2: significant number of children with color vision deficiency leave school
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  Speaker 2: without ever being formally diagnosed, and many adults report navigating
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  Speaker 2: daily frustrations for years before understanding why. All right, So
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  Speaker 2: that's a quick overview for the most part of color blindness,
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  Speaker 2: color vision deficiency and what it's like in all that,
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  Speaker 2: And now let's get to the heart of the question
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  Speaker 2: choosing colors when you or a family member you know
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  Speaker 2: doesn't see color in the same way. And the first
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  Speaker 2: thing I wanted to dig into was a question that
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  Speaker 2: I had, and it's this. If the rest of us
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  Speaker 2: have been trained to think that certain color combinations are beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: does somebody with red, green color blindness, color vision deficiency
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  Speaker 2: walk in and think it looks terrible.
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  Speaker 1: You know, how does that play out?
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  Speaker 2: And it turns out Usually know that it's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be the case. People adapt, you know, their brains
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  Speaker 2: relying on memory and labeling. They're not walking around distressed
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  Speaker 2: by every color pairing.
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  Speaker 1: They're kind of just used to it. You get used
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  Speaker 1: to it.
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  Speaker 2: It's what you see on our regular basis, and that's
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  Speaker 2: just what it looks like to you, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: think about it. But certain combinations, though, do collapse. You know,
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  Speaker 2: red text on a green background is the classic example.
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  Speaker 2: It can be unreadable to many with red green deficiency.
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  Speaker 2: So if you take that and extrapolate it to paint
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  Speaker 2: in a home, if you've got sage green walls paired
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  Speaker 2: with warm terra cotta accents to somebody with red green sensitivity,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty likely that that stuff's going to blend or
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  Speaker 2: compress into you know, similar muddy tones. The whole contrast
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  Speaker 2: that we would see if we don't have a red
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  Speaker 2: green vision deficiency, a red green color deficiency, the contrast
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  Speaker 2: that we see completely disappear. The warmth flattens. You know,
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  Speaker 2: very dark reds or greens can even appear brownish or
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  Speaker 2: almost black under certain lighting conditions. If you've got red
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  Speaker 2: green color deficiency, so a room that we describe perhaps
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  Speaker 2: as rich and layered could genuinely feel dull or muddled
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  Speaker 2: to somebody else. You know, it's not going to happen
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  Speaker 2: every single time, not every single room is going to
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  Speaker 2: look ugly, but it definitely can happen in certain color combinations,
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  Speaker 2: and that matters, especially when it's your home. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when you're putting your colors together and maybe your spouse
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  Speaker 2: sees color differently. How do you navigate all of that?
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  Speaker 1: What do you do? Well? Here are some things that
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  Speaker 1: you can think about.
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  Speaker 2: First off, you've got to understand the type of color
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  Speaker 2: division deficiency involved. You know, strategy is going to depend
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  Speaker 2: on that. So if there's a red green color deficiency involved,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: then you want to lean into blues, grays, topes, warm neutrals, yellows, purples,
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  Speaker 2: you know, colors like that, and build contrast using variations
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  Speaker 2: in tint and shade rather than opposing hues. But the
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  Speaker 2: most important design tool here is value. Value, not economical value,
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  Speaker 2: but value in terms of lightness and darkness. Somebody who
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  Speaker 2: can't distinguish red from green can absolutely distinguish light from dark.
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  Speaker 2: So a pale wall with deep trim, a cream sofa
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  Speaker 2: against a charcoal rug, that contrast reads really cleanly and
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  Speaker 2: really clearly, regardless of the hue. So that is really important.
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  Speaker 2: Keep that in mind. Value really matters here. Texture matters
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  Speaker 2: as well. Gloss versus matts, smooth versus woven. Light interacts
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  Speaker 2: differently with each surface, and that creates visual interest independent
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  Speaker 2: of the color. Lighting is also really critical. Take Benjamin
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  Speaker 2: Moore's Wickham gray. It's a blue gray that reads cool
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  Speaker 2: in daylight. Under warm evening lighting, it softens and loses
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  Speaker 2: some of that blue. So for someone with blue yellow deficiency,
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  Speaker 2: that shift might feel really dramatic or might cause it
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  Speaker 2: to you know, and unexpectedly with other warm tones in
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  Speaker 2: the room. So keep all of that in mind, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: with that in mind, always sample paint in real conditions,
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  Speaker 2: you know, morning, afternoon, evening lights on, whatever you gotta do,
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  Speaker 2: all right, last thing I've got. A Washington Post feature
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  Speaker 2: told the story of a North Carolina designer named Quinton
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  Speaker 2: Tate Quintin Tate, and during the consultation his client described
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: this magenta based color palette that he was presenting as
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  Speaker 2: brown and green, and that was the moment that Tate
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: realized they weren't seeing the same thing. So the designer pivoted.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of chasing lush, saturated tones as was his want,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: he focused on colors that his client clearly could perceive.
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  Speaker 2: He brought in beach tones, you know, coastal tones, and
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: then layered in texture, silhouette, movement, all of these things. Now,
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite parts of this particular story is
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the client couldn't fully see the green of a large
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  Speaker 2: potted plant that Tate brought in, but the client appreciated
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  Speaker 2: its shape, shadow, and presence. And that's the key. Colorblind
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  Speaker 2: This doesn't mean colorless living. It means designing a little
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  Speaker 2: bit smarter, leaning on value, contrast, texture, and all of
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  Speaker 2: those things. And if you're working with Benjamin Moore's range
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of blues, warm neutrals, grays and off whites, you've got
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  Speaker 2: an enormous palette that works beautifully across almost every type
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  Speaker 2: of color vision. So Tom, thanks for the question. I
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  Speaker 2: learned a lot, hopefully everybody out there did. And remember,
• 39:23
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• 39:29
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• 39:36
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