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M and M EXTRA June 11, 2026: Save Act Frustrations, Destructive TDS, and Must-See Alien Movies · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
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  Speaker 1: of talk show experience, an extension of the magic they've
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  Speaker 1: created together on radio in the phenomenon called M and M,
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  Speaker 1: Hot Topics in the News and Wisdom from Light. It's
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  Speaker 1: Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is eminem extra.
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  Speaker 2: What do I have a bone to pick with you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, my my, my part of the way this sounds
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  Speaker 3: My bone's bigger than your bone? Can I Can I
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  Speaker 3: deal with mine? It's much more immediate right now sounds awful.
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  Speaker 2: Both of our backgrounds have gone completely to crap.
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  Speaker 3: Look at Oh, hang on a minute, I got it.
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  Speaker 3: Does this mean you can see mine?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I can see yours and you can't.
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  Speaker 3: I can't see I can't see dutile squat? So could
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  Speaker 3: you have whoever? Hang on? Let me let me say
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  Speaker 3: welcome in. Everybody told I'm told this is part of
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  Speaker 3: the charm. You told me, Hey, just start it. If
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  Speaker 3: there's a couple of things, don't stop the stream. Whatever happens,
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  Speaker 3: don't stop the stream because the planet will swirl out
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  Speaker 3: of control. So tell whoever, I know we got somebody
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  Speaker 3: kind of where I can see the video feed on
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  Speaker 3: my little computer here because I'm looking at little color
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  Speaker 3: bars so they can hit hit whatever magic button enables
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  Speaker 3: me to actually see the process. That would really really
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  Speaker 3: be good. Meanwhile, I will do my part, all right, you'll.
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  Speaker 2: Do your part to fix the background there. Obviously he's
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  Speaker 2: not getting the return again today.
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  Speaker 3: So where we go?
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  Speaker 2: Not hand them in?
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  Speaker 3: There we go, the screen goes black and then.
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  Speaker 2: Boom, there we are while ladies and gentle Gallaher's logic
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  Speaker 2: Galagher's logic, Mike Gallagher's logic shared with me mere days ago,
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  Speaker 2: was that you should not have been spared these moments
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  Speaker 2: of messiness, that this was actually part of the charm,
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  Speaker 2: part of the reality, part of what's the word of
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  Speaker 2: the moment, authenticity of the experience.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm inclined to agree.
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  Speaker 2: We're the ground, We're the gram we're the graand Platiner
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  Speaker 2: of podcasts. Were authentic, We're authentic. We're very authentic.
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  Speaker 3: No, no Nazi tattoo.
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  Speaker 2: And I got it. I got I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I have PTSD. I don't have any reason.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't never sure.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not an oyster farmer. No oysters.
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  Speaker 2: And you have bruises on anybody I never have.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, here you go. Here's here's our first sixty second
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  Speaker 3: bog down. Yeah, oyst oysters? Are you a fan?
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  Speaker 2: I like eating snot, That's all it is, like eating snot.
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  Speaker 2: Will you slurp snot out of a shell? That's what
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  Speaker 2: oysters are for me.
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  Speaker 3: I will, I tell you, I you know what I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna do Monday at I believe the restaurant. Are we
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  Speaker 3: doing the same restaurant who's did last time? For them?
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  Speaker 3: For our lawyer gathering? Yep, I will, I will. I
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  Speaker 3: will order a dozen on the half shell and feed
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  Speaker 3: you one.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, I can't eat it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll throw a little cocktail sauce, a little horsedish. Oysters
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  Speaker 3: make my life complete. I'm not a picky eater, but
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  Speaker 3: I can't eat I can't eat oysters. But I like shrimp, cocktail. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I like fish. I'm alright with a bridge too far?
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  Speaker 3: All right, So here's the beef I have. They'll start
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  Speaker 3: over again. Here's why we can't go.
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  Speaker 2: We can't go too long today because I got got
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  Speaker 2: to a stupid movie theater to see this idiotic movie
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  Speaker 2: that you talked me into getting a ticket for.
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  Speaker 3: But you are so slanted against it. Even at the
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  Speaker 3: outset was you were.
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  Speaker 2: Going to go, I was going to go in our
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  Speaker 2: respective home, and then we were going to do a
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  Speaker 2: review tomorrow and now joint review. Right now, it's only
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  Speaker 2: going to be me. Now you're mister space geek. Stephen
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  Speaker 2: Steven Spielberg pointed out by the way this movie will
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  Speaker 2: make you doubt your faith in God.
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  Speaker 3: I don't, he said. I don't think he said that
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  Speaker 3: that that that chapped me. It chafed me as well,
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  Speaker 3: because I love Spielberg, but I don't for a minute
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  Speaker 3: believe we've been visited, not for one minute. The movies
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  Speaker 3: are fun, science fiction, keyword fiction. But I think that
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  Speaker 3: that his quote is more like, if we were to
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  Speaker 3: learn this, it would be it would rattle many cages
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  Speaker 3: of people's basic beliefs, which I guess is technically true.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe he is pitching Disclosure Day as the film,
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  Speaker 3: which tells you definitively we have been visited and it's
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  Speaker 3: time for you to rethink God.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciated the profile that CBS Sunday Morning did
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  Speaker 2: on him because his body of work, there's no question
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  Speaker 2: he's the shessel b demil of our lifetime that I
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  Speaker 2: mean from all kinds of different genres and whether it's
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  Speaker 2: science fiction or rom coms or I mean, the man
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  Speaker 2: knows how to make a movie, and so I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm looking forward to it. Somebody I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who I saw this from on
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  Speaker 2: X but somebody said I've seen the movie that everybody's
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  Speaker 2: flocking to this week, and I could barely make it
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  Speaker 2: through an hour and then I had to leave. I
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  Speaker 2: hope this is not another Project Hail Mary or that
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  Speaker 2: stupid movie was.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what's weird. I elevated your expectations for
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  Speaker 3: Project Hail Mary, which I loved, and then you hated it.
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  Speaker 3: Your expectation for Disclosure Day are apparently abysmal. So I
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  Speaker 3: am expecting. I told my radio audience today, I think
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  Speaker 3: you're going to tell us tomorrow that you will like it.
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  Speaker 3: Then I'll see it over the weekend and come back
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  Speaker 3: Monday and tell everybody whether you were right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna find out. And then I got in
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  Speaker 2: trouble with the whole team because then I started whining
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  Speaker 2: and bitching about movies I didn't like, like like like
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  Speaker 2: the stupid not only Captain Hall Mary or whatever it
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  Speaker 2: was with the stupid Rock project Captain hell Mary. From
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  Speaker 2: there they got the Rock Mary. They got that rock
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  Speaker 2: from Target for twenty nine to ninety nine. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: even didn't even look good. Rocky, oh yeah, and there's
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  Speaker 2: a clever name, Rocky. We'll name him Rocky the Talking Rock.
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  Speaker 2: And then the stupid Tom Hanks movie that came up
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  Speaker 2: with him and Volleyball and Yet.
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  Speaker 3: Which is a top twenty of all time for.
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  Speaker 2: Me, right and yasmin yasmin our video producer. She took
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  Speaker 2: umbrage at me not liking Castaway.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, she's right.
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  Speaker 2: Well everybody apparently, I I shet there, thought I hope
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  Speaker 2: he drowns already with him floating around in the water
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  Speaker 2: with the stupid volleyball, do something sink the volleyball, stop
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  Speaker 2: talking to the volleyball. Maybe the volleyball can turn on
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  Speaker 2: Tom Hanks and this thing already it went on. It
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  Speaker 2: was interminable, and just.
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  Speaker 3: For I instantly was with him, Chuck Nolan to get it.
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  Speaker 3: No land was on this island. There's other than being
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  Speaker 3: killed or horribly maimed. There's nobody in the history of
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  Speaker 3: movie plots. Who's ever been more screwed than this guy
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  Speaker 3: on this island completely by himself. I was instantly riveted.
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  Speaker 3: I know what you needed. You needed it to be
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  Speaker 3: turned into a musical. As I'm trapped on the island
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  Speaker 3: with this ball.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm not new I'll give.
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  Speaker 3: It my all. I mean, I don't know what you're getting.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in. I'm in well, And you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a big thing about being in the right frame
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  Speaker 2: of mind to see a movie, don't you think you get?
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  Speaker 2: And even even reading a book or or watching a
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  Speaker 2: TV show. You thought I'd love The Marvelous Missus Mazell. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I hated it. I didn't like it New York.
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  Speaker 3: It's the sixth is it show business?
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  Speaker 2: It's Broadway?
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  Speaker 3: At one point, the wonderful marvelous Missus Maisel is just
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  Speaker 3: was one of my favorite. So let's do whatever you
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  Speaker 3: want to do in the news news and maybe as
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  Speaker 3: the last thing I've done, I can't believe good. I've
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  Speaker 3: got my top five alien visitation movies ever.
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  Speaker 2: You promised that earlier. And for people joining us, thank
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  Speaker 2: you and welcome in. And we got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: viewers now that are that are watching us live on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube and we'll be listening on the podcast as well.
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  Speaker 2: Uh incidentally, I also, finally, before we talk about the
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  Speaker 2: news News final final observation, I'm two episodes away from
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  Speaker 2: getting through the final season of Hacks with the great
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  Speaker 2: Gene Smart. Oh yeah, gosh. And I'll tell you what,
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  Speaker 2: I have never laughed so hard and people look this
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  Speaker 2: we go, we can go a little blue. This is podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We got a little edgy. This is PG thirteen. When
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  Speaker 2: I want to.
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  Speaker 3: You're you're leaning into this way more than I am.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna start cussing like a sailor, not even cuss
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  Speaker 2: I don't even yeah but bob. But the plotline of
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  Speaker 2: the of Jean Smart's character pretending that she's a lesbian
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  Speaker 2: with her assistant in order to get the Carol Burnette jumps.
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  Speaker 2: She wants to wear that at Madison Square Garden. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: That's one of the funniest episodes I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and the other actress is actual lesbian actress
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  Speaker 3: Cherry Jones, who is four Hacks and it's the ultimate
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  Speaker 3: We talk about this a lot. It is that ultimate compartmentalization.
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  Speaker 3: Because Jeane Smart has made it clear on a couple
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  Speaker 3: of red carpets, hates Trump's guts, and the young lady
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  Speaker 3: who plays her writing partner Ava is the incredibly talented
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  Speaker 3: Hannah Einbinder, daughter of Laray Newman. Loray Newman of Vintage
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  Speaker 3: SNL fame. She doesn't walk around billboarding all that. She's
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  Speaker 3: just big on the activism stuff. These are people who
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  Speaker 3: disagree with us about everything. But I'll tell you the
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  Speaker 3: gen smart character, Deborah Vance right right, kind of kind
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  Speaker 3: of has I don't. I don't think she's not a
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  Speaker 3: doctrinaire conservative, but she makes fun of Ava talking about
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  Speaker 3: the the doc Martin's and the just change, Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 3: And the show is just good. It's hacks is it is?
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  Speaker 4: It?
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: HBO, HBO, Max HBO.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do you even know or care what platform anything
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  Speaker 3: is on? Or do you just tell your TV?
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  Speaker 2: And it appears, Look I have to go off into
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  Speaker 2: chat GPT on what platform? Can I see? Uh? What's
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  Speaker 2: the new one that I love about? The Widow's Bay?
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  Speaker 2: Where's Widow's Bay? Where's that? You know? You got? You
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  Speaker 2: got Paramount? You got you got Beth Dutton now the
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  Speaker 2: Dutton ra that's on Paramount Plus. So you're right, there's
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  Speaker 2: so many platforms.
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  Speaker 3: I understand. I don't understand how any of this sorcery works.
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  Speaker 3: But I've just got the Apple TV box and I
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  Speaker 3: just hit the little group on the let that lets
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  Speaker 3: you talk to it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I say the name of a show and it appears.
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  Speaker 3: It goes to the platform and it appears, and I
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  Speaker 3: hit play and interesting plays. So I don't know HBO
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  Speaker 3: or Amazon Prime Er, I don't know where anything is.
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  Speaker 3: It's just there.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of boomers trying to figure out watch the
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  Speaker 2: TV show we've met the best.
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  Speaker 3: Before we're done, I have one more boomer in the
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six tech story. That'll take sixty seconds of
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  Speaker 3: something I find myself doing. It's a little disturbing. I
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  Speaker 3: bet you're doing it too in the mind. But let's
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  Speaker 3: do some news news and we'll do that and top
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  Speaker 3: five alien films before we are done.
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  Speaker 2: You got it. Let's talk a little bit about something
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  Speaker 2: that I think is the most important issue that Americans
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  Speaker 2: face today, and it's maybe one of the most unreported
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  Speaker 2: issues of the day, and that is basically the failure
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  Speaker 2: of the Senate Majority leader and a couple of other
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  Speaker 2: Republicans to get the Save America Act passed. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: want to take you to the White House yesterday. Let's
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  Speaker 2: start here with President Trump, because he's done something brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: He added the Save America Act to the Pentagon Bill
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  Speaker 2: under reconciliation. Now that requires a simple fifty majority vote
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  Speaker 2: for passage, because you'd get JD. Vans to be the
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  Speaker 2: tiebreaker if Republicans go along. Now, Susan Collins has already flipped.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you haven't heard, she's facing a challenge
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  Speaker 2: in her reelection.
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  Speaker 3: Who is who's that guy facing her? I've never heard
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  Speaker 3: of him before.
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  Speaker 2: She is suddenly gonna be miss Maga. She is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be full blown Maga. She'll be all set, Sara done
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  Speaker 2: with this before now November fourth, she'll go back to
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  Speaker 2: being Susan Collins again. But in the meantime, she's flipped.
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  Speaker 2: But I wanted I want you to hear what President
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  Speaker 2: Trump said. He's demanding that the Republicans passed this immediately.
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  Speaker 2: He's at a point where no more games, enough pussy
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  Speaker 2: footing around. Here's what the President said yesterday in the
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  Speaker 2: Oval Office.
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  Speaker 4: We put in today, as you know about Save Americas,
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  Speaker 4: Save America to Act. I don't know. Someday Senate in
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  Speaker 4: the House, we'll get it done. Although I must tell
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  Speaker 4: you the House has approved three times already. Save America Act.
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  Speaker 4: Right here we have everybody can see that. And then
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  Speaker 4: we'll talk about clean beautiful call. You're not allowed to
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  Speaker 4: say coal within the Trump administration unless it's preceded by
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  Speaker 4: the words clean beautiful. Complicates our life, but it's good,
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  Speaker 4: right Chris, wherever you mean it is, cry back, I'll
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  Speaker 4: tell you it's effective.
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  Speaker 3: So Save America actors.
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  Speaker 4: All voters must show photo I D so you're good
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  Speaker 4: to vote and show photo ID. Not complicated, right, you
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  Speaker 4: know who could oppose it? They say it's in eighty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 4: It's about ninety nine to one, and we'll never find
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  Speaker 4: the one person. And he congratulations and on a big victory.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for yours. I think I appreciate it. But
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  Speaker 4: you're very good at what you do and have been
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  Speaker 4: backing you right from the beginning for a long time,
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  Speaker 4: backing you two sir for years said trade you have,
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  Speaker 4: thank you, congratulations. You want a big election, so you
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  Speaker 4: have all voters my show photo ID identification, all voters
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  Speaker 4: my show a little thing called proof of citizenship. Would
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  Speaker 4: you say that's ninety nine to one, mister Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that's maybe one hundred to zeros, which
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  Speaker 3: they say not. They say he's sure, but they say
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  Speaker 3: it's eighty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: It's not eighty twenty, it's ninety nine. And we've never
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  Speaker 4: found the one person. There's another one.
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  Speaker 3: And you have no mail in ballots.
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  Speaker 4: But we want to be liberal, as they say, or
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  Speaker 4: we'll say we want to be progressive. So it's no
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  Speaker 4: mail in ballots. You see that what's happening in California.
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  Speaker 4: They're rigging the election. Now maybe we caught them and
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  Speaker 4: maybe they won't.
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  Speaker 3: Be able to get away with it. They tried with me.
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  Speaker 4: They did it successfully the second time. The third time
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  Speaker 4: we made it too big to rick too many votes.
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  Speaker 4: They couldn't do it. They can only go they said.
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  Speaker 4: It gave up at about nine oh seven when they
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  Speaker 4: got slaughtered with the votes they cable. But no mail
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  Speaker 4: in reallis except for illness, disability, military, or travel. So
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  Speaker 4: we're being very progressive.
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  Speaker 2: And so you know he's laying this out and now
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  Speaker 2: who in the world. You and I both know something.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you think of John Thune, and maybe you know,
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  Speaker 2: I had a couple of callers that actually tried to
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  Speaker 2: defend him. He's trying to be pragmatic. He doesn't think
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  Speaker 2: he has the votes as Senate Majority leader. He knows
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  Speaker 2: the taally, he knows the math. As Chad Program would
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  Speaker 2: say over on Fox News, Mark, we both know if
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  Speaker 2: John Thune wanted to get the Save America Act passed,
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  Speaker 2: they'd get it passed. There are paths to get it passed.
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  Speaker 2: There are ways that the majority that they were Republican majority,
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  Speaker 2: could get this thing done. And John Thune doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: it to happen. Why why, why why is John Thune,
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  Speaker 2: the Senate Majority leader, refusing to let this thing succeed.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't want it. It's not in his heart. He
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  Speaker 3: is not conservative on boarders, on the list of things.
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  Speaker 3: And it's funny on where the bar is set, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's Thuon or his partner in occasional crime, John Cornyn
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  Speaker 3: or others who have an R by their name. Technically
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  Speaker 3: are they conservative on some things? Sure they are on
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  Speaker 3: some things, but not everything. And on the notion of borders,
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  Speaker 3: they simply are not. And so for anybody, anybody in
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  Speaker 3: the House or the Senate, or any governor, any mayor.
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  Speaker 3: When anybody finds themselves asking why did this person do
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  Speaker 3: this or why did this person not do it? The
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  Speaker 3: answer is always the same, because they didn't want to.
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  Speaker 3: We do as humans. We do what we wish to do.
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  Speaker 3: We try what we wish to try, and if we
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  Speaker 3: don't want to do something, we don't. So then the
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  Speaker 3: secondary question becomes, Okay, why why in the world with
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  Speaker 3: someone not just a conservative, Because as you've pointed out
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  Speaker 3: with skill, we don't believe in this thing because we're
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  Speaker 3: Republicans or because we're conservatives. We believe in this thing
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  Speaker 3: because we care about the integrity of elections, which everybody
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  Speaker 3: on it.
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  Speaker 2: And many Democrats do. That's why the polling says it's
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  Speaker 2: eighty plus percent. Trump maintains its ninety plus percent. And
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned borders, all right, So maybe John Thune doesn't
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  Speaker 2: believe in a secure border that doesn't have anything to
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  Speaker 2: do with with voter id laws. You could cheat out
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  Speaker 2: at the wazoo without having the presence of illegal immigrants.
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  Speaker 2: You could just have I've told the story of gazillion
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  Speaker 2: times going into New York City the polling place in
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  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, tried to pull out my wallet to show
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  Speaker 2: or my ID. She said, we don't need ID. Go
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: over there and just say what your name is. That's
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: not necessarily a borders issue.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: In fact, you're completely right. The immigration of fraud angle
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: of that is just part of border SKA. So there
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: are plenty of people who have lived here for decades
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: who are more than glad to get a live ballot
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: that arrives in their mailbox or maybe the address where
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: they used to live. A complete live ballot where there's
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: no real chain of custody, there's no real signature of verification.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: And people in California you can vote fraudulently all the time,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: every day, and they do people.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Of course they do, and they do. In fact, let's
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: listen to a little clip here. I don't want to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: play the whole thing yasmen, but let's let's hit it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: This is from Wall Street Apes where they got an
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: interview with a homeless lady in Los Angeles and they
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: and she confirmed that she was paid to fraudul fraudulently
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: cast a ballot for Karen Bass.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: You vote yes for Cambas, Yeah, Cam Bass or Nitia Rahman.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how much they pay you.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: The sign off on a thing.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: They'll do this for everybody out here.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Mark'd you hear that they come out here on homeless
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: people admitting that they're getting paid. She sent a couple
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: of bucks to fill out a ballot and cast her
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: vote for Karen Bash. He's a homeless person. This is
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: what the Democrat now. Look when you're in a state
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: where all you have to do is present your gym
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: membership as a form of legitimate voter ID, they want
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to cheat. So John Thune wants to cheat. John Thune
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: wants that. John Thune doesn't want election integrity. Mark, It
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense. There's other theories. There are theories
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: that they have they've got some kind of dirt on
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: John Thune, that he's compromised.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Then is that true of every soft Republican on this issue?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: There may not be that many, But like I think somebody.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Is writing a bad political How could you be soft
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: on this issue?
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I don't even think it's stupid because some people are
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: just misguided, some people are weak, some people don't have
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: the guts for this fight. I think we're about to
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: see a similar thing on birthright citizenship, which is obvious,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: and yet there are people who just don't want to
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: cross that bridge and poke that bear and be strong
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: enough or have the spine or the will or the
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: brain to say something that's obvious.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I just don't want to. You're such a nice guy.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You're such a nice guy, And I don't mean this
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to insult you, because you and I are dear friends.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Don't take this the wrong way. But your your naivete
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: is so impressive. Naive, you are so naive. You're saying
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that the John Thune and maybe other Republicans who don't
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: want voter id or proof of citizenship are just soft
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: on an issue. Mark. It's way more nefarious than.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Well than what than what is it? Because all I
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: was doing is rejecting the notion that they've got dirt
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: on him. That the reason, Oh yeah, that may come
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: around on the Save America acting, no doubt, picture out
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: a Filipido boy chain in his basement or something that'll
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: that first.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: That could be a bridge too far, But I don't
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: think it's. It's not it's not logical to say, well,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: we're a little soft on something that is as fundamentally
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: essential as voter Well, there's there's something else there is
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: either it's maybe a payoff, maybe he's bought off, Maybe
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: he maybe well and I and let me go with
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the theory that I believe it, and we've talked about
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it one more time. Go look
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: up John Thune's comments about President Trump in the past.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I saw a clip last night when he was asked
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I think it was either during the twenty sixteen or
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: maybe the twenty twenty cycle, about Trump as a Republican candidate,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and Thune said, I'm hoping there are other options he has.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I suspect he's a never trumper. I suspect his brain,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: his soul, his heart is poisoned by that thing we
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: know is Trump's arrangement syndrome. And as a result, he
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to hand Trump a victory on what Trump
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: has said is his signature policy.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: And that's one hundred plausible. So we're where somebody doesn't
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: have dirt on him or you know, they're in and they're
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: not blackmailing him. But here's a perfectly good idea that
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: anybody with a brainstem should recognize is a good idea,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: and the reason they don't want to do it is
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: it would be a net positive and a big feather
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: in the cap of the Trump administration. And they hate him.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: They hate him, They just MPT. I have a wise
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: friend who says Trumps arrangement syndrome takes nice people, makes
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: them mean, takes smart people, makes them stupid, funny people unfunny.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: This could be it, and it's it. It's a fascinating thing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know you make everyone makes fun
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: of me and you don't. But but I get teased
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: for in a theater geek. So I'm such a theater
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: geek that not only do I watch the Tony's the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: other night, but I watched the Red Carpet Show on online.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: There was Rosie O'Donnell. She's baddy. Oh I know, oh lord,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: she's back from Ireland because she was driven to Ireland
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: because of Trump, right, And you know what, you want
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to know something. She can't stop talking about Trump at
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the Tony Awards. Of course they're not even asking her
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: about it, and she's ranting and raving like a mental
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: patient about Donald Trump. And it's like these people that
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it gets into there, it seeps into their hole, psyche,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: their DNA. It's a little scary. I can't think of
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: any Democrat that you and I have ever loathed in
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: terms of policy, that we would be so crazed about,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: and yet they are so Look at John Fune has
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a little bit of that in his soul. Maybe that
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: explains it. I don't know.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I don't either, but that, unlike a couple of other
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: things that that that is plausible, I guess you know
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: what it is. It's just so depressing. It's it's something,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: It's something I don't want to believe, but I've but
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I've seen it in others where there's something that they
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: just won't accept. There's something that they just won't embrace,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: not because they themselves have decided that they don't like
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: it or want it, but because they just despise Trump
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: so much that they don't want to hand him. We'll
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: look at people's attitudes about the war. Can you imagine
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: if Biden shown one moment of willingness to try to
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: topple a nuclear Iran, how many Democrats would think that's
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: a great idea? Because Orange man bad, Orange man bad.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Somebody posted online a Washington Post article that claimed to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: be criticizing Trump cleaning up and beautifying Washington, DC, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and somebody said, the Washington Post put a side by
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: side picture of the reflecting pool which he has, which
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: which he has started, which he you know, had the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: bottom painted and everything, and it's blue, were and it's
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: clear the waters and it's and it was leaking. Apparently
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it was real leaky and everything. And for fifteen twenty
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: million dollars or whatever they spent, they think the Washington
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Post did a side by side and said, see, it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: not really that much better under Trump, they did, he
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: didn't really do that big a job. Now, I thought
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it was the Babylon Bee. I swear I thought, there's
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: no way the Washington Post is actually crapping all over
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: his efforts to beautify DC. And everybody is saying, the
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: fountains are better, they they're they're cleaning up this, everything
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is better. But the Washington Post literally wants to make
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: fun of and marginalize and minimize Trump's Trump's efforts to
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: beautify DC. If you'd be against that mark, you'd be
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: against anything the guy is trying to do.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Here's a flip side of where I thought I was
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: trolled yesterday. Because you're talking about somebody bagging on the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: on the beautification. There is someone very famous. Who will
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: reveal in a minute who posted a picture of the
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: beautiful reflecting po And for those who don't know who,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: those are not gone. You have the Capitol, then you
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: got about fifteen blocks. You have the Washington Monument. Then
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: you have the reflecting Pool that goes all the way
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: out to the Lincoln Memorial and rights where so many
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: protests and gatherings and good things, good and bad and fascinating,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: all historic have taken place. The reflecting pool is iconic.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: There's a beautiful picture of the reflecting pool. I can't
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: remember the exact phraseology, but I think it was somebody
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: who posted that picture and said really beautiful or very
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: beautiful or something like that, posted by Stephen King. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: saw that now and did somebody hack his account?
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Have a stroke?
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Is he?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Is he being cynical or ironic? Or I mean, I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: think he was being cynical. I think it was like, oh, yeah,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it's really beautiful. I don't know, I guess, but people
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: called him out right away. I said, wait a minute,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: thank you, mister King, because you have been I mean
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: it's I've had the benefit of a friendship of many
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: years with a never trumper, smart guy. I don't think
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: he'd mind me identifying him. Pete Wayner. You and I've
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: talked about Pete. A wonderful, wonderful man of I love,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: deep faith, a big heart. He's very spiritual. He likes
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: to talk about Christianity. He's a he really is, I think, uh,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: scholarly when it comes to our faith.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: He loves to look at, you know, the different scripture.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: And he talks about Martin Luther and all kinds of
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: wonderful things. He was in the Reagan and he's a bushy.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: He's a he's a George bush guy. Loathes Donald Trump.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And we go back and forth and we have for many,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: many years. And it's it's I've asked, Pete, is there
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: anything you'll give him the benefit of the doubt for?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Or give him the benefit of the doubt all? And
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: really I don't want to put words in Pete Pete's mouth.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: It might be fun to have Pete on our podcast someday.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Would you be up for that?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I'd be more than happy. I've had people ask me
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: as much fun as we are and as it's all
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: we can do to all of our words in do
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Jason and Travis Kelsey do like the three shot where yeah,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: we do somebody wedge somebody in between us. Well, listen
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the way he has puts it up. Sometimes it's you,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: me and a big thing of b roll. So so
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: what you get guests on eminem Extra. I am not
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: hostile to that concept.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I love it because what we love about the eminem
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Extra is there are no time constraints. And by the way,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: somebody on our team is now writing in the live chat.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing. I can see the live chat
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and I want to comment, but I can't comment. Do
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you know how to comment? It says I have to
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: start a channel in order to comment. Welcome to the
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: live chat. Remember to guard learn more, create a channel
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to join the chat. Right, So what do you what
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: do you want to do? Do you want I want
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: to say hi everybody or something on the chat?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: That's just we'll say it now say one, two, three,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: high everybody boom.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: No, I want to do it on the chat. I
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: want to do it on the live chat anyway.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And to the connectivity. Okay, I'm sorry, good.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I know. Well, Hey, you're the one that want to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: tell everybody what movie theater I'm going to every minute?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Please I hope there's nobody in the Tampa Bay area
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: watching or listening, because I'm we would be stalked.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: At the draft house in Saint Petersburg.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: But anyway, a lot of a lot of comments on
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the live chat, and somebody from our team is now
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: writing on the chat we've got who is that? Guys?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You ask? But who's do we know? Because somebody at
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: eminem extra and somebody wrote, thank you for watching, We're
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: glad you could join us today? Is that Tracy? Who
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: is that? Who's the gilt? I love it? I mean,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I don't mind who is that? Who is?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Everybody's looking at me blankly? And how can you get
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: access to that? I mean, then maybe that's the way
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: to do it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, nobody on our team is doing that?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Oh oh oh a ghost? Is it? Is it Widows
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Widow's Bay or whatever it's called? I mean, is nobody on.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Our I've got a little yellow highlight on it. It's
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: our channel. Someone has replied through the auspices of our
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: channel thanking somebody for watching. We're glad you could one
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: is today?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Well anyway, but but but here's some comments, and I like,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I love texts and feedback like this and I love
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: live chats. Matt Barry writes, if you support unfair elections,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: you are a trader and deserve prison time. And I
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: really believe that. I mean, here's gay gay. Hannack writes,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: who could not want to say that? Pass it? Now?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: These are the kind of question and of course this
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: is Melissa says. Rosie O'Donnell needs to go back to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Ireland asap. According to President Trump, they don't want her.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: They've kicked her out.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Now they Where's where's Saint Patrick when you need him?
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Because I found a snake that needs to be driven
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: out of Ireland.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And you know what, and you know what I hate.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I'll bet i'd like her. I'll bet i'd like her.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I used to remember when she was the Queen of
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Nice the daytime show and was just as as affable
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: and likable. Well, but guess what and it wasn't just
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: got a question I don't know the answer to is
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: because with Pete Wayner, who is definitely smart and definitely
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: nice and good management, Trump derangement made him less nice
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: and made him less smart. Mark's tds axioms kicking in
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: with regard to Rosie, was it Trump that broke her
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: or was she kind of a mouthy, unpleasant lib pre
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Trump all?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Remember well she was. In fact, I've seen some clips
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: pop up on x from years and years ago where
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: she was. She was, she was feuding with Trump back
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: in the day. You know, I mean that this goes
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: way back. This is not this all predates it. And
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I'll and in defense of our friend Pete, he's mark,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: He's never mean. I mean, he's kind of he's kind
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: of mean about it that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I don't write, I don't mean personally mean no you or.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: No, no no.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I have run across people who have become absolute. I'm
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna channel Mike Gallagher who have become absolute
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to me personally because because of Trump. And that's the
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: right word, unbelievable, that's the right word.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: George George Conway comes.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Of course, the less nice thing for Pete. And we
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: do need to have Pete, and we're going to talk
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: about him as much, but it's all in great love
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: and appreciation for the kind of person that he is.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But as soon as you think that half of America
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: is stupid, as soon as you think that half of
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: America is just you know, deranged, then that's that's not nice,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: that that's just not that's that's not kind.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he doesn't he doesn't say it that way.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: His his argument is that he feels that people. I mean, look,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I can explain Pete. He's he's an establishment Republican who
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: believes that populism is very dangerous for the country. And
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and and it's a good it's a good argument. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: don't agree with it, but I get it. It's okay.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: But but boy, you go into the layer after layer.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And and here's the interesting thing about Pete. He has
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I think posted and appeared and he's right for the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: New York Times. And this is a credible guy. He's
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a fellow, I know, but he's a fellow. He's been
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a a big important part of think tanks. But I
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: sense he's doing less and less and even to the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: conversations he and I have, Look, this is a guy.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get a little emotional because this is
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: what I hate about where we are with politics. We
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: are so opposite about Trump and Maga and where we are.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: This is a guy who never fails to reach out
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: at the holidays because he knows I lost my dad
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: on Christmas, day. This is a guy who never fails
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: to reach out in June because he knows I lost
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: my wife in June. He never forgets that to reach
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: out to the personal side of a guy like me,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, and we genuinely like each other. We've had
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: breakfast together. I've only met him one time.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Really, when is the last it has been a while
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: since we've talked about him. When's the last time you
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: had any interact with him?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Four years ago? Maybe three, four years old? Interaction? Oh no, no,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: no interaction a week ago, two weeks ago. Oh, he's
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: a good good Yeah, we'll still stay in touch. I'm
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: which I want to. I want to stay in touch
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: with that. And in fact, there's a part of me
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: that's worried about putting him on the eminem extra because
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I don't want to make it worse.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: No, no, of course not. And this kindness shows that
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: he has not allowed this difference to break his humanity
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and his personal connection to you. But now maybe we
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: actually do need to have him on so I could
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: ask him this, and I think he'd be honest, as
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: kind and sweet and nice as he is to you
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: in those directly personal ways, very personal. He thinks there's
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: something the matter with you. He thinks there's something you
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: just don't see. You are deficient. You are not that
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: you're a full blown idiot or you know or what. No, no,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: but but there's there's something. There's just something that I
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: guarantee you. He has this condescending view of you that
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: doesn't come out with personal derision. But it's the way
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: they all think. But Mark haughty, elitist, but just don't
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: see it. Correct, But Mark be fair.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Don't we think something's a little bit wrong with him.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: That core syndrome. It's a syndrome, it's a it's a condition.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: It makes smart people dumb. Don't we think there's something
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: a little off with these people who have.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: This hatred for Trump, that that's a myth of equivalency
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: for the following reason, I know what you're what you mean?
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: We think they're deeply mistaken. That's the worst thing I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: would ever really say about that. But I don't think
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: that they're evil for feeling that way. He doesn't that
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: they're stupid for feeling that way.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: He doesn't that we're stupid, don't.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, Pete, Pete doesn't the TDS brigades.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I will bet you.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: That Pete, we really we need to him on like tomorrow.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: At this point, I believe he thinks that that his
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: friend Mike Gallagher, it has some unfortunate moral blinders on.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: You're not a bad person, but there's something about the
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: thrall of Trump that has you lacking the wisdom that
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: he has to see through to what an execrable soul
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Trump is and you're just not seen well.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: And I again, to be fair, and maybe I'm bending
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: over backwards because I like him so much. I would
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: think I would think he would say that we feel
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the same about him. But maybe that is a metal equivalence.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: And there's one other thing that's different, you know. The
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: other thing is different is we can prove it. The
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: TDS things that we've talked. It does make funny people unfunny.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: It does make smart people stupid, It does make nice
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: people friends.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Excuse me now, I'm really leaning into you.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Talking about going blue.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Holy crap, these things are demonstrable, and they happen every day,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: and they're happening in real life every single I know.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: But I but I want to give grace to a guy.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: And you are right there and I'll channel you with
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: going Blue. I've gotten like four in my life. I've
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: got four people in my life who've cut me off,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: who won't talk to me. I've known them for decades,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: for many years, and for them, Trump Trump support is
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: a bridge too far. And you know what, not for him,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: he doesn't cut He didn't cut me off. He we've
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: been we have been respectful. We have and I so, hey,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I'll ask him. I'll just ask him. Now. Look, i'd
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: like to continue this.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I think I think I think it would go great.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I think it would too. I want to continue this,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: but I've got to go to the stupid movies. Now we.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Go, Hey, what times? What's your showtime? We won't find
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: you show time.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give the show time. I don't
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: want somebody to find me.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Right, you got, well what I've got four four minutes
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: of material, So because here it go, one of them
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: is going to take one minute ahead, go ahead, here
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: we go. Okay, see that's what I can make it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I got plenty of them. I know you do, so
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: stop it. Uh, I'm starting to do something. I want
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: to see if you are, because I know across the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: landscape of podcast and everything. This is going to ring
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: a bell of familiarity. One of these things that these
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: devils in our pocket do like AI. Before there was AI,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: there was the Internet and the phones, which are remarkable things.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: They are wondrous. They a miracle. I'm so grateful for
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: them every day. And yet it's kind of a curse.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: We've all seen at dinner the family that sits their
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: family of six, and they're all in their iPads. It's terrible.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: We are in ways addicted to these things. Here's the
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: story I'm about to tell. We can't be bored anymore.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: We can't be alone with our thoughts any more. I
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: was at Einstein Brothers Bagels a couple of days ago.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Ee love me somee Einstein Brothers cheddar jallapeno with a
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: light onion and shive shmeir.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: That's my jam.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: So I ordered the thing. It takes them maybe a
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: minute and a half to double toast that thing. Let
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: me walk down to the other thing. Bah bah bah.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: So I get down there to the end register and
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I'm waiting. I'm there. They're going to take literally maybe
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: a minute, minute and a half. It is five forty
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: five in the morning. What do I do it's a minute,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: minute and a half, I whip this bad boy out
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: and I start scrolling Twitter or something, not that there's
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: anything the matter with me. I guess you could call
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: it show prep. But I caught myself and I said,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I don't have sixty seconds to look at maybe another
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: couple of people, or say hi to somebody, or just
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: be alone with my thoughts or say a prayer of
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: gratitude about the day, which I do every day. It's
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: not I just says, for a moment, and it bothered me,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: it concerned me, and I wonder if you share it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I love that if I've got a thirty minute, you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: boring ride or something that I've got, I can check
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: on news stories. That's great. But I kind of feel
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: like we can't have a moment of a loneness with
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: our thoughts, a moment of idle time. Everything must be
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: filled with content. What am I missing? I can't take
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: just ring about glad.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm so glad you raised this because I
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: really I will confess I've got a problem, and I
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: my problem is I will I will be I will
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: have my nose stuck on this phone going down rabbit hole.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: After rabbit hole for hours. And what scares me is
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and it's starting to feel like an addiction. And I
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: will admit this. I what's terrifying me is I enjoy it. Now,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: let me tell you what I enjoy. I'll go down
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: the rabbit hole because X is brilliant at this and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: it's manipulative. They're manipulating us the social media algorithms. You
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: know how that works. You see one.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Video, if you look at they give you more of
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: what it thinks you like.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Once you see it. Once you see a video, have
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a I have a fascination and a love of law enforcement.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: There are so many police interaction video clips out there.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: You look at one of them, you could spend twenty
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: hours looking at different interactions people that are refusing to comply,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: police shootings, things that happen. But Mark, I can't put
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: it down. I can't put it down and I can't.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: You know what somebody said to me about the movie today,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: which is a great tie in. I got a text
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: earlier today when I was talking on the talk show
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: about how I'm miffed at Mark because he's making me
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: go to the movies, and somebody said, think about how
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: great it is that you're gonna be able to have
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: a bag of popcorn, a diet coke. You're gonna be
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: in a theater, you're gonna unplug from the world. You're
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: gonna be alone with your thoughts and this movie. You're
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: gonna have two hours of really freedom, escapism. And that
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: texture is so right because I don't have it. And
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like you. I mean, I've got adult kids that
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: are grown and gone. I've got a granddaughter. But you know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I'm a widower. I'm alone. I don't have a lot
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of I don't have a wife every day that I'm
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: interacting with, and I'm content. I don't anybody feel sorry
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: for me. I've got my patterns, I've got my life.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: But the truth is I don't have much of a life,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: to be very blunt, and so I fill that void
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: with this dooms rolling and Mark, You're so right. I
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: gotta touch grass, I gotta shut the damn thing off,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I gotta go on. Look, I went to Japan, for
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: God's sake. I couldn't stop looking on the phone. Oh my,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: in Tokyo.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: You're You're on the bullet train and rather than watch
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Kyoto go by, that's right, You're you're watching.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: You know that's right. And I'm not I'm not joking.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: It is a problem. I gotta I gotta stop it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I and and it's discipline. It's like anything else, Mark,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: it's self discipline. You gotta be able to handle it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: You gotta control no, no, when to put it down.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: So we need know when to put this, putting this
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: episode down, Like, well, what about your five alien movie?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: So here, here we go, Ye, Aliens has got to
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: be one of them, right, Okay, okay, here's here's why,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: here's why.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: No, the first alien singular was the first nineteen seventy alien, right,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: and then there was Aliens in an Alien three or whatever,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: whatever the kind of movie I'm talking about. And leave
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: it to me to make anything way more complicated as
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Disclosure Day is the notion of here we are on
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Earth and some life force has come to visit us.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: So no Star Wars, no no alien, no Alien Predator,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: no action film that just happens to involve aliens. I
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: take all every single one of those and put them aside.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: It's another entire category. If that's okay with everybody, exactly
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: so exactly, so there's one that just just missed the
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: cut I did top five if I had six, And
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you ever saw this. I think
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: it's the mid eighties, the greatness of Starman with Jeff
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Bridges over star Because a woman, guess what's speaking of
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: losing a spouse. A woman's husband dies and a wisp
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: of her hair, of his hair, winds up being clonable
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: into an alien finds this and appears as the very
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: vestige of her late husband. Except he's except he's an alien.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: He has he's not he doesn't talk like him, he
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: has a halting speech and has to learn how to function.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: But looks and it's a love. There's a wonderful thing.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: She gets to teach him the earth and it's like, okay,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: what stoplight? What's a stoplight? He said? Red light means stop,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Green light means go, yellow light means go very fast.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: It's so, it's so beautiful. It would have made the
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: top five if.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: It didn't, So that's very good.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Number five out of South Africa A thing called District
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: nine Appley director Neil Blombcamp. The aliens are here, ben
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: here for a while, and they're an underclass. They are
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: in like, hello, South Africa. They're like it's like alien apartheid,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: and this it's just it's cultural, it's it's it is
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: a genius piece of work. From two thousand and nine
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: District nine, Number four, The Abyss by James Cameron. Do
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: you remember this? It's what a cast ed Harris, Mary,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Master Antonio. There's something weird underwater. They don't know
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: what it is. They find out and it's an amazing
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: story that winds up having an alien twist at the end.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: That is one of my favorites. Or the Abyss. Number
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: three is ET number. You knew AET was going to
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: be in here somewhere. Sure, it's cute, it's it's whatever
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: you want to call it. But I when did it?
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: When did it come out? Nineteen eighty two? I was
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: twenty five, right, and I was so captivated, so incredibly
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: captivated by the whole phone home, the whole thing. You know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I'll be right here, and cried like a baby. So
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: ET makes the cut to be sure. Number two is
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: from about a decade ago. I can't believe it's been
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: a decade. Amy Adams and Jeremy Renner in a thing
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: called Arrival. Do you remember this at all? I remember
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the thing I love about this what everybody says that
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I think Neil deGrasse Tyson, who I think is an insufferable,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: sanctimonious jerk, but an astrophysicist gen who has a lot
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: of interesting things to say about this is why do
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: all the aliens look like us, walk like us, talk
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: like us? What are the odds of that? They're probably
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: amorphous blobs that can talk to each other in some way.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what a rival is. They have to
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: put up a plexa glass thing they what they spurt
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: ink against the plexa glass that they have to some
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: and that's what Amy Adams is. She's a linguist who
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: somehow learns how to do that.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: So that you see that you've seen the b rollers.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: We're going through your list.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: What's right? Look go ahead?
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Look at number two?
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Great John, is there one that's left? Because here's number one?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Does it jump out at you?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Is that?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Are you aware of where you think I'm going here?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Independence Day?
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: No, Independence Day is almost action film that happens that value.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, number one, Go ahead.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: It's It's It's Contact nineteen ninety seven by Carl Sagan
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: from the Carl Sagan book, Jody Foster, Matthew McConaughey. It
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: is such a slow burn. They got the big antennae
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: out in the desert, and it's like, wait a minute,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: what's that. It takes forever before they think, they sort
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: of think what it is, and when they realize what
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: it is, their effort to make contact with this other
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: life form whom you never really even see until the end,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: when you see it in a form you don't expect contact.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety seven best alien visitation ever. Give me, give
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: me maybe this weekend until.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Gimme things that get blown up? But what was the
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: tom Cruise?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Is it? It was Edge of Tomorrow?
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, War of the World's right, didn't he
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: do a War of the World? You know? You know
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: what the love of that?
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Well, there was an old War of the Worlds that
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: used to be on at eleven o'clock at night and
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: scare the heck out of when you were ten. The
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: remake he did, and it also had who mister Susan
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Sarand and Tim Robbins. Yep, that remake of War of
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: the World is pretty darn good. I love that that.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Spotlight because I don't want to miss the previews. Goodbye.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you tomorrow what I thought of? What is
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: it deliverance Day? What's deliverance today? As have a pretty
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: mouth baby ned baby the supported roles? What a delivery?
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Disclosure day? Disclosure? I couldn't believe it today. I was
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: today with Eric. I was like, is it Discovery Day?
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Is it delivery? Okay, disclosure Day. I will disclose tomorrow
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: on the M and M extra what we thought? I
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: love you, Happy, Happy Thursday, my friend.
• 47:33
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