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War and Sports Metaphors Represent Our Preoccupation with Masculine Qualities of Power, Courage, and Leadership · Raising Daughters

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  Speaker 2: Hello, friends, Welcome back to Raising Daughters. I did a podcast. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember how long ago. It was maybe six
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  Speaker 2: months or so ago. It's called how Our World would
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  Speaker 2: be Different If Women were the Storytellers. I had interviewed
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  Speaker 2: the author of Cassandra Speaks the book and talking about
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  Speaker 2: how our patriarchal society, our masculine dominated society, has really
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  Speaker 2: affected how we treat each other and how we look
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  Speaker 2: at each other. There's a famous quote by Sally resh
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  Speaker 2: Wagner says history is not what happened, it's who tells
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  Speaker 2: the story. Another quote I'm not sure who it's by,
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  Speaker 2: It is like this, stories created only by men are
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  Speaker 2: really stories about men. So I thought I would talk today.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're gonna find this really interesting, so stay
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  Speaker 2: with me. There's so many words and metaphors that we
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  Speaker 2: use that have to do with aggression, war and sports,
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  Speaker 2: and I think those are also a reflection of this
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  Speaker 2: being a male dominated society, a patriarchal society and culture.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's important. I think the words we use,
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  Speaker 2: how we talk to each other, what we say to ourselves,
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  Speaker 2: is really important when it comes to how we treat
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  Speaker 2: each other and how our society lives. So let's get
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  Speaker 2: stick into this a little bit. I think you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: be really interested in all the different metaphors that I
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  Speaker 2: found that use war and sports in them. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it's strange too that our humanity has singled out
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  Speaker 2: war and aggression as the form of the one form
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  Speaker 2: of boldness and courage for us to memorialize. So much
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  Speaker 2: of what we value and memorialize is about war and combat.
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  Speaker 2: I'd read somewhere that if you looked up on Google
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  Speaker 2: the most significant historical events, the ten most historical events
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  Speaker 2: that are so important that they are all about wars.
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  Speaker 2: So I checked that out and I found that the
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  Speaker 2: ten significant historical events that change the world eight of them.
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  Speaker 2: Of the ten, eight of the ten were about war.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting where we focus our energy. Interesting. Interesting. It was
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  Speaker 2: decided a long time ago in our long standing patriarchal
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  Speaker 2: society that history would be annotated by warriors, and that
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  Speaker 2: courage and boldness, strength would be associated with the willingness
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  Speaker 2: to fight and die, to put your life on the
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  Speaker 2: line for your religion, your ethnicity, for your country. But
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  Speaker 2: we don't really put those same kinds of values to
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  Speaker 2: people who did other things, like people who invented the
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  Speaker 2: washing machine, solar panels, birth control pills. These discoveries, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, are very important, and by the way, they're
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  Speaker 2: all involved women, inventors and investors, and they changed the
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  Speaker 2: course of history as well, But we don't talk about
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  Speaker 2: those women and those things as much. Again, it tells
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  Speaker 2: us a little bit are a lot about what we
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  Speaker 2: most value. Until recently, I saw this in an article somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: and I checked it up also on Google. Until recently,
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  Speaker 2: there were twenty nine sculptures in Central Park in New
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  Speaker 2: York and at that point about four years ago. Not
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  Speaker 2: one honored historical women, not one. They're all about men.
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  Speaker 2: So the New York City Public Design Commission finally approved
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  Speaker 2: a statue. This was back in August of twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 2: and it showed the Women's Rights Pioneers Monument. That's what
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  Speaker 2: it's called, honoring Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth, Katie Stanton, and
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  Speaker 2: so Journer Truth. And that was the first monument in
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  Speaker 2: Central Park's one hundred and sixty year history to depict real,
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  Speaker 2: live women. Isn't that amazing? And those women were all
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  Speaker 2: involved in the movement for women's right to vote. So
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  Speaker 2: let me throw out to you. I think you can
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  Speaker 2: find this interesting, some of the words and metaphors that
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  Speaker 2: we use that are derived from war and aggression. And
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  Speaker 2: then I'll talk about some of the ones who who
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  Speaker 2: are derived from sports. So here's the ones that words
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  Speaker 2: in metaphors derived from war, using aggression, war combat force metaphors.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just kind of list them out for you.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last twenty thirty years, we've had the war
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  Speaker 2: on drugs, a war on crime. So when there's a
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  Speaker 2: big issue, then we go right to it's a war.
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  Speaker 2: We don't say there's a problem with. We don't say
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  Speaker 2: there's an issue with. We say a war on drugs,
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  Speaker 2: a war on crime. People use expressions like join the ranks,
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  Speaker 2: describing somebody as being a straight shooter. Sometimes we get
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  Speaker 2: caught in the crossfire. When we need some help, we
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  Speaker 2: call in the troops. Even women's beauty is described as
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  Speaker 2: a woman's described as being a bombshell or a knockout.
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  Speaker 2: When in person is powerful, they're called a heavy header.
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  Speaker 2: If your plan becomes a failure, it's called a dud.
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  Speaker 2: When you're at work, sometimes you're talking about being in
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  Speaker 2: the trenches. There's full frontal assaults. When when we're fighting
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  Speaker 2: against something in our business lives, the best arguments, oftentimes
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  Speaker 2: are the ones described as having your heavy artillery with
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  Speaker 2: you or your arsenal behind you. We're told to take
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  Speaker 2: no quarter. There's some policies in politics called scorch earth policies.
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  Speaker 2: If we're experiencing a lot of adversity, we're suffering the
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  Speaker 2: slings and arrows of other people. All is fair in
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  Speaker 2: love and war. We get blindsided. We're told don't jump
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  Speaker 2: the gun and make sure that you're that you're doing
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  Speaker 2: something that you hit the mark. So many of those
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  Speaker 2: expressions we use, they just come off our tongues in there.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not just that they're words. Words have power.
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  Speaker 2: And who chose those violet conflict words as the ones
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  Speaker 2: that we tend a lot over all the other ones?
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  Speaker 2: Who do you think did that? How do those ones
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  Speaker 2: come to be so descriptive of our lives? Men? We
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  Speaker 2: also use a lot of sports idioms. Let me throw,
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  Speaker 2: let me throw out a bunch of those, a curveball,
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  Speaker 2: a full court press, that this this new project is
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  Speaker 2: going to be a slam dunk success. That was a
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  Speaker 2: low blow. If you're struggling, then you're on the ropes
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  Speaker 2: and people tell you to roll with the punches. You
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  Speaker 2: were saved by the bell. We got in just under
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  Speaker 2: the wire. And if you're frustrated and you're ready to quit,
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  Speaker 2: you just throw in the towel. You're a dead ringer
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  Speaker 2: for somebody, No holes barred. Make sure that if we're
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  Speaker 2: on in some business endeavor, that there's a level playing field.
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  Speaker 2: If somebody does a great thing at work and has
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  Speaker 2: a huge success, they knocked it out of the park,
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  Speaker 2: and you were told oftentimes also you need to be
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  Speaker 2: aggressive in business and play hardball score points that if
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  Speaker 2: something is not too hard, it's called a slam dunk.
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  Speaker 2: There's counter attacks. If you're too too busy to do something,
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  Speaker 2: you say, just punt it. You're supposed to defeat your adversaries.
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  Speaker 2: Things are described as being hit below the belt. If
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  Speaker 2: someone is not doing their work, they're called dropping the ball,
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  Speaker 2: and if there's a last minute success, it's called using
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  Speaker 2: a hail mary. You experienced a hail mary, you're told
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  Speaker 2: to go for it, to swing for the fences, step
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  Speaker 2: up to the plate, don't jump the gun, keep your
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  Speaker 2: eye on the ball, hit the mark, go the distance.
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  Speaker 2: If you're doing something really well for a while, you're
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  Speaker 2: on a good run. Or if you lose something, you're
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  Speaker 2: out of the running. If you're if you're really tired
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  Speaker 2: and you want to keep going, you got to get
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  Speaker 2: your second wind. Because we're almost to the home stretch,
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  Speaker 2: we're neck and neck with our competition. Would have helped
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  Speaker 2: if we had gotten a head start. And also to
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  Speaker 2: be focused and in the zone. And if we if
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  Speaker 2: we're failing, we may be down for the count. And
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  Speaker 2: we're also told to be warriors. The words we use
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  Speaker 2: are important. They tell us something about who we are
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  Speaker 2: and what we value. I think we need to be
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  Speaker 2: more mindful of that. We give you a couple other examples.
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  Speaker 2: Can boys be raised in this world today to feel
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  Speaker 2: some pride if they exhibit some more feminine qualities? And
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  Speaker 2: if they can't, why not. If it is a girl
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  Speaker 2: who is rough and tumble, he's a good athlete, and
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  Speaker 2: we call her a tomboy, that's exalted. But if a
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  Speaker 2: boy shows some signs of being having some feminine qualities
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  Speaker 2: and he says described as being a sissy, that's a
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  Speaker 2: source of shame. We describe girls as being a daddy's
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  Speaker 2: little girl, that's fine, But what about a mom boy?
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  Speaker 2: Lots of judgment about that one, right if we If
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  Speaker 2: you turn on the TV and looking for a movie
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  Speaker 2: about love romance relationships, we called a chick flick, and
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  Speaker 2: that's it's not meant to be a it's meant to
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  Speaker 2: be a derogatory term, like it's a term like it's
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  Speaker 2: not a very good movie. It's kind of low low brow.
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  Speaker 2: Guys who who are good thinkers are called very rational.
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  Speaker 2: Women who who show emotion, who are empathetic are told
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  Speaker 2: to be They're told that they're too emotional, too sensitive,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen kids who are really young. One time, a
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  Speaker 2: four year old in preschool. Her mom told me that
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  Speaker 2: she had gone to her parent teacher conference and the teacher,
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  Speaker 2: the preschool teacher of this four year old, described her
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  Speaker 2: as being a queen bee. And I've also had girls
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  Speaker 2: described so often, especially in grade school, as being bossy,
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  Speaker 2: too intense. And that's because they're opinionated. That's because they're powerful.
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  Speaker 2: They're playing with their social power, and sometimes they make mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: but they're just powerful kids who want to be leaders,
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  Speaker 2: want more say so, want more control. Sometimes it crosses
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  Speaker 2: the line. Sometimes it comes across as being too much,
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  Speaker 2: but they get labeled as being bossy, sassy, too intense.
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  Speaker 2: Boys with the same kinds of characteristics are often called
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  Speaker 2: leaders are assertive. So I always catch people when I
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  Speaker 2: hear them talking about kids' little girls as being bossy,
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  Speaker 2: are too intense, or to this or two that. I
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  Speaker 2: oftentimes stop them and say, I don't like those labels.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to say they're a powerful little kid
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  Speaker 2: who sometimes steps some people's toes, I'll buy that she's
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  Speaker 2: learning how learning how to be powerful. That's true, But
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  Speaker 2: she's also oftentimes intense, powerful, focused, she's a leader with
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  Speaker 2: some rough edges, if you will. The common uses of
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  Speaker 2: words and metaphors derived from wars they're described, they're describing
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of things, from sexual healthy to winning and losing,
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  Speaker 2: starting and stopping, helping, hindering. We're using words of combat
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  Speaker 2: and force explosions. We call arguments a battle. We call
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  Speaker 2: people who are cooperating. If there's a cooperation going on,
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  Speaker 2: we call it the truce or a cease fire. Even
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  Speaker 2: in those kinds of terms, which is unfortunate because we
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  Speaker 2: come to the table with a disagreement with an aggressive
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  Speaker 2: war mentality, if you will, when really we should be
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  Speaker 2: coming to that table with more of a cooperation attitude.
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  Speaker 2: We should be coming to the table with collaboration as
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  Speaker 2: our model, win win, as opposed to this is a battle,
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  Speaker 2: this is a war, get all you can. There's winners
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  Speaker 2: and there's losers. So I think that's all been bred
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  Speaker 2: into us and bred into the culture. So I think
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  Speaker 2: we need to pay attention to be mindful of the
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  Speaker 2: words that we're using. I think the fact that we're
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  Speaker 2: using so many aggressive terms, sports terms, war terms kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing, I think it reveals that our culture has
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  Speaker 2: a hard time with things like empathy and tenderness. We
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  Speaker 2: need to use different words to change our perspective about things.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of people researchers during COVID working on the front lines,
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  Speaker 2: we could describe them as as working in a lab
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  Speaker 2: clicking up recipes to heal COVID. But no, we made
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  Speaker 2: into a war thing. We paid a lot of attention
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  Speaker 2: to violence and warriors for many, many years. And to
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  Speaker 2: break that cycle, we're gonna need to pay change how
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  Speaker 2: we pay attention to. We need to change what deeds
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  Speaker 2: we honor, and we need to change the words that
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  Speaker 2: we use. If I ask kids, I've done this a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of times to discribe who their heroes are or
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  Speaker 2: who are heroes in their lives, who are heroes in
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  Speaker 2: the world, they almost always say the same thing. First responders,
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  Speaker 2: e police officers, firefighters, soldiers, sports stars, and nowadays even
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  Speaker 2: rock stars. Taylor Swift is a hero. And so you know,
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  Speaker 2: most kids, most girls I know, are not going to
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  Speaker 2: be those things. So they don't see themselves as heroes
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  Speaker 2: because they're not those things. In the movies and stories.
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  Speaker 2: We tend to value and prize one kind of courage.
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  Speaker 2: It's the kind of courage that allows kids in the
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  Speaker 2: movies and all just tand up to a physically larger opponent,
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  Speaker 2: people who are at war, people in battles, CEOs who
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  Speaker 2: are tough and aggressive, soldiers, police officers, FBI agents, pro athletes. Again,
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  Speaker 2: most girls aren't going to experience those kinds of things,
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  Speaker 2: and so they're left with, I guess that I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a hero, or even worse than, I'm not courageous, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not brave, I'm not strong, I'm not a leader. If
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  Speaker 2: I ask girls, which I have a million times, who
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  Speaker 2: are the leaders in their school, especially the female leaders,
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  Speaker 2: they oftentimes talk about the girls who get the most
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  Speaker 2: attention and the girls who are seen as leaders. They
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  Speaker 2: are people who are like the student council president, the
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  Speaker 2: team captain, the best athlete, the queen bee, the girls
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  Speaker 2: who are the prettiest or the most popular and have
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  Speaker 2: the most friends. And sometimes it's the girls who are
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  Speaker 2: kind of racy and in trouble a lot. Those are
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  Speaker 2: the leaders in school, and the heroes are the ones
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  Speaker 2: who are soldiers and professional athletes, first responders. Again, most
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  Speaker 2: girls don't fit that mold, so they start to not
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  Speaker 2: see themselves as being strong, courageous and leaders. So we
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  Speaker 2: need to do a better job of recognizing and identifying
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  Speaker 2: different examples of courage and leadership in real life and
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  Speaker 2: in stories. Let me give you I Metroot just a
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  Speaker 2: couple of quick suggestions about how we can start redefining
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  Speaker 2: leadership and being powerful. And these are the ones that
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  Speaker 2: girls can connect with. Girls who don't give their power away,
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  Speaker 2: Girls who keep their power, who stand up for themselves
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  Speaker 2: and other people. That's show encourage. They don't care what
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  Speaker 2: other people think, They dress like they want, They hang
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  Speaker 2: out with whoever they want to hang out with. They
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  Speaker 2: keep their interest even if other people judge them. They're
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  Speaker 2: true to themselves. Oh, tremendous way of being powerful and
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  Speaker 2: being a leader. They don't let words and gossip bother them.
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  Speaker 2: They include everybody. They have their interest out, their arrows out.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked about that in that previous podcast. They're not
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  Speaker 2: involved in drama and gossip. They refuse to get sucked
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  Speaker 2: into it. They have the ability to handle their conflicts
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  Speaker 2: directly and peacefully. Oh it's a big one. They hold
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  Speaker 2: other people accountable, they set boundaries, they take care of themselves,
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  Speaker 2: They bring the group together. They try and make everybody successful.
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  Speaker 2: Is just me me, me, They're good listeners, and they're
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  Speaker 2: good at meeting other people's concerns. They're not afraid to
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  Speaker 2: make mistakes, they're not afraid to take risks. They pushed
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  Speaker 2: faster past their fears and they go for it. These
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  Speaker 2: are all examples of girls who are brave, courageous, who
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  Speaker 2: are leaders. They're not first responders, they're not soldiers, they're
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  Speaker 2: not professional athletes, but those are girls who need to
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  Speaker 2: start getting more more notice. We need to talk more
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  Speaker 2: about those ways of being powerful, those ways of being brave,
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  Speaker 2: because a lot of girls can connect with those and
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  Speaker 2: it gives them something to go for if you will,
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  Speaker 2: so so so excuse me by the way. I did
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  Speaker 2: a previous podcast or a year or so ago. It
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  Speaker 2: was called redefining Power in Leadership, So I would look
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  Speaker 2: for that in my in my in my queue, and
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  Speaker 2: on my podcast list online. I also did that one
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  Speaker 2: last year, called how our world would be different when
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  Speaker 2: we're storytellers. I'll put the links for that in my
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  Speaker 2: show notes. So we need to start looking for other
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  Speaker 2: metaphors from other pursuits besides war and sports, because in
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  Speaker 2: overusing those and over focusing on those, we're giving power
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  Speaker 2: to the deeds they describe, which is not always what
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  Speaker 2: we want. It's also interesting I read a book. I
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  Speaker 2: read a book years ago called The Athena Doctrine. It's
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  Speaker 2: a great book. Two authors whose names I can't remember it.
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  Speaker 2: My book is at my other office, but anybody's called
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  Speaker 2: the Athena Doctrine. And these two authors went all over
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  Speaker 2: the world to I think it was thirty three cultures.
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  Speaker 2: They are surveying people, ask them questions about different things
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  Speaker 2: about leadership. And one of the questions was, in your culture,
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  Speaker 2: what are the masculine leadership qualities? That your culture would say,
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  Speaker 2: those are masculine qualities, and we're the feminine qualities of leadership,
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  Speaker 2: and all those cultures was pretty much the same. The
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  Speaker 2: masculine qualities of leadershi were described as being dominant, strong, arrogant, analytical, proud, ambitious, hardworking,
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  Speaker 2: self reliant, aggressive, brave, competitive, stubborn, driven, direct, independent, unapproachable.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the masculine qualities of leadership. In all those cultures,
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  Speaker 2: including ours, the feminine qualities of leadership were described differently.
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  Speaker 2: Their qualities were more things like being trustworthy, dedicated, reasonable, adaptable.
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  Speaker 2: They were community oriented, creative, intuitive, and able to touch
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  Speaker 2: into their intuition, passionate, kind, supportive, other female qualities of
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  Speaker 2: leadership open to new ideas, God forbid, our politicians would
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  Speaker 2: be open to new ways of doing things, being generous, humble, loyal, cooperative, collaborative, selfless,
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  Speaker 2: socially resid responsible, empathetic, understanding, patient and sensitive. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that was fascinating that these authors found
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  Speaker 2: in the Athena Doctrine book was that across age and
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  Speaker 2: gender and culture, people all over the world felt that
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  Speaker 2: the more feminine qualities of leadership and power correlated much
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  Speaker 2: more strongly with making the world a better place. And
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  Speaker 2: I would agree with that. So our challenge is to
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  Speaker 2: find ways to encourage these traits in girls and boys
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  Speaker 2: to acknowledge them more when they're exhibited. We also need
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  Speaker 2: to raise our awarenes of the ways that we may
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  Speaker 2: unconsciously inhibit these these virtues. One way will be to
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  Speaker 2: become more aware of the words and the metaphors that
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  Speaker 2: we use to find some healthier ways. So just just
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  Speaker 2: some different ways. So it's not so one way I
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  Speaker 2: say at the beginning, I'll say it again. Our words
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  Speaker 2: are powerful. The words we use are powerful. Using aggression
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  Speaker 2: and war in combat and sports and force and all
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  Speaker 2: those It tells us something about who we've been, who
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  Speaker 2: we are, what we value, And so it's really important
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  Speaker 2: that we start looking for other ways of describing people
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  Speaker 2: and things. Ords we use are important. They tell something
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  Speaker 2: about who we are and what we value. Be mindful
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  Speaker 2: of that when you're describing things. Start recognizing and identifying
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  Speaker 2: examples of courage and leadership in different ways, with real
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  Speaker 2: life examples and in stories that you read in books,
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  Speaker 2: and you and your daughters and sons are reading in books.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's important. One last piccadillo I have when
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  Speaker 2: my wife and I travel. One of the things I
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  Speaker 2: bet you've noticed when you go traveling by airplane, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, is that when they're loading the plane, one
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  Speaker 2: of the first things they say is anybody who's here
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  Speaker 2: with a little kid, you know, come to the front.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are go on first. And then they say
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  Speaker 2: anybody who is active duties service come on the plane first.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes people in the waiting area even clap, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not against that, but what I want us to also
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  Speaker 2: think about is I would love to see the day
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  Speaker 2: when they do they when they would also say the
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  Speaker 2: stewards say is anybody who is a teacher in an
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  Speaker 2: inner city school, please come forward and come on the plane,
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  Speaker 2: because you guys are heroes as well. How about nurses
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  Speaker 2: who are working the late shifts in the hospital, the
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  Speaker 2: nurses during COVID or anytime. There are people who are
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  Speaker 2: doing amazing things of courage and are important and valuable
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  Speaker 2: that we do not honor enough. We go right to
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  Speaker 2: war aggression of those kinds of things. So we need
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  Speaker 2: to shift those sorts of things, pay attention to those
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  Speaker 2: kinds of things and those people and those values. I
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  Speaker 2: think if we do that and we live that out,
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  Speaker 2: we might be able to shift the energy in our
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  Speaker 2: world today to something that's more collaborative as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: being so polarized. I will be back here in a
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  Speaker 2: week again with you with something new about girls. And
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you listening into these. I know it's time
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  Speaker 2: for you. I know many of you. My analytics say
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  Speaker 2: that many of you most of you listen to these
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: podcasts through your watches, which is fascinating. I guess it
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: goes to your earbuds or whatever. So however you listen
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  Speaker 2: to these, Thank you so much. I'll have a couple
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  Speaker 2: of links on the show notes, which would be on
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  Speaker 2: my website at www dot Dr Tim Jordan dot com,
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  Speaker 2: and going there also to look for any information about
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: all the other resources that my wife and I provide,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: including my brand new book, Keeping Your Family Ground when
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: You're Flying by the Seat of your Pants, which came
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  Speaker 2: out several weeks ago. Thanks so much for being here,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening in. I appreciate your interest.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be back here in a week with a brand
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  Speaker 2: new podcast. Thanks so much for stopping by.
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