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Beautiful Teen Disappears From Own Bedroom After Texting "I'm Scared," Body Just Found · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I talked to Riley's dad
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  Speaker 1: and he tells me that he kind of feels like
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  Speaker 1: a pinball because any tip that they get, they go
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  Speaker 1: chasing after it in hopes that something will lead them
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  Speaker 1: to Riley. Thus far, nothing, The fifteen year old hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been seen in a week. Her mom says she walked
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  Speaker 1: into the teen's room last Wednesday morning, but she wasn't there,
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  Speaker 1: and so she thought that that was normal, that Riley
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  Speaker 1: had just left for school already. Volunteers canvassing the area
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  Speaker 1: searching for anything that could lead them to Riley. This
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  Speaker 1: is today happening in that area. The last person that
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  Speaker 1: Riley called last week was her boyfriend, but he didn't answer.
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  Speaker 1: This was last Wednesday, after that radio silence. So there's
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  Speaker 1: been no phone cause there's been no text messages, no
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  Speaker 1: postings of anything on social media. Riley's parents believed their
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  Speaker 1: daughter was abducted. They say she would never run away.
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  Speaker 1: As our friend Erico Gonzalez at NBC four, Riley Crossman
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  Speaker 1: just turns fifteen. And when I say that she is
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  Speaker 1: a young fifteen, I don't mean like a fifteen year
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  Speaker 1: old who's already dating and staying out till eleven to
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  Speaker 1: twelve o'clock at night, experimenting with drugs and booze, and
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  Speaker 1: wearing slouchy outfits. Mmmmmmmm. That is not Riley at all.
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  Speaker 1: And when her parents say she would never just disappear,
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  Speaker 1: they're absolutely right. She has never disappeared or even been
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  Speaker 1: late actually before in her life. Fifteen year old Riley
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  Speaker 1: goes missing. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us, joining me an all star panel.
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  Speaker 1: Syndicated talk show host Dave Mack, South Carolina medical examiner,
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  Speaker 1: author of homicide investigation Field Guy, doctor Michelle Dupree out
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  Speaker 1: of Arizona, licensed clinical social worker, Ashley Kelly. Daryl Cohen,
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  Speaker 1: renowned defense attorney. You can find him at Daryl Cohen
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  Speaker 1: dot TV. Karen Smith, forensics expert, founder of Bare Bones Consulting.
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  Speaker 1: Straight to You, Dave Max, syndicated talk show host. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me first about Riley's disappearance, then we'll analyze the clues.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Nancy, that you mentioned that she was a
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  Speaker 1: young fifteen, A beautiful young fifteen year old Riley was
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  Speaker 1: described by her mother and family members as being a
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  Speaker 1: reliable teenager, as you mentioned, not a child that would
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  Speaker 1: go off and do something like this. Her regular day
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  Speaker 1: was she would get up and actually walk herself to school.
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  Speaker 1: They lived within walking distance. Okay, right there, right there?
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  Speaker 1: Did you know, I'm just putting it out there that,
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  Speaker 1: oh gosh, I gotta get the right hey, hey, Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: get me the stat if you don't mind, on how
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  Speaker 1: many abductions take place at or around the school bus
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  Speaker 1: pick up spot. Okay, when you said walking to the
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  Speaker 1: school bus stop, that's a big deal. People go missing
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  Speaker 1: there all the time. I'm sorry, Dave, Matt, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: So she's last thing walking to the school bus. I
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  Speaker 1: actually know, walking to the school. That's what her mother assumed.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have any proof that she actually did what
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  Speaker 1: we What we have is again a reliable teenager and
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  Speaker 1: a mom who works late at night as a waitress.
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  Speaker 1: Riley's regular schedule is she would wake herself up in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, get dressed, and she would walk to school.
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  Speaker 1: Not to a bus boy, she would actually walk to school,
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  Speaker 1: to the high school. To Daryl Cohen joining me renal
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  Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, Daryl, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how or where you grew up. I know
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  Speaker 1: that we prosecuted in the same office. But that's I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, you're growing up. But my mom, when I
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  Speaker 1: would wake up, would be already up and gone by
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  Speaker 1: seven am. She'd have breakfast laid out, a bowl of
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  Speaker 1: grits and a cup of coffee mixed with meal. Every
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  Speaker 1: morning she'd be gone. My dad worked in a night trick,
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  Speaker 1: as he called it, and we would get up on
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  Speaker 1: our own, get ready and go to the bus stop. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this girl walked to school. Did you grow up like
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  Speaker 1: that or did you have someone you know, shepherding you along.
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  Speaker 1: Mine was sort of a hybrid, Nancy. My mom woke
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  Speaker 1: us up, prepared breakfast, and we either took the bus
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  Speaker 1: to school or we walked to school. It's a little
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  Speaker 1: long walk, but it wasn't a bad walk, and so
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  Speaker 1: we had just a little bit of both. Actually, So
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  Speaker 1: that's the first thing that piques my interest, Dave Matt
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  Speaker 1: is that she was en route to her school, not
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  Speaker 1: her school bus stop. Thank you for telling me that. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So then what happens. What happens is that we're again
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  Speaker 1: in the timeline, Nancy, we're basing it on what we
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  Speaker 1: hear from Riley's mother. About Riley's normal routine. Okay, and
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  Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, this is a reliable teenager. But
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  Speaker 1: when you actually back up and break it down, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know when we actually know she was in the
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  Speaker 1: home that night, Okay, before that morning, because her mom
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  Speaker 1: says that she went to check Riley's room at seven
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  Speaker 1: fifteen that morning and Riley was already gone, so she
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  Speaker 1: assumed that Riley had gotten up and walked to school.
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  Speaker 1: Her first class started at seven forty five that morning,
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  Speaker 1: so it would have been out of the normal for
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  Speaker 1: Riley to leave at seven fifteen or before then to
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  Speaker 1: walk to school. You know what you're reminding me of
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  Speaker 1: right now, Dave Mac. Oh, yeah, we got the correct
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  Speaker 1: stat now. It's between thirty eight and forty percent of
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  Speaker 1: all stranger on child abductions are related to walking to
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  Speaker 1: school or the school bus stop, or coming home from
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  Speaker 1: the school or the school bus stop. That is a
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  Speaker 1: staggering number. That's almost half. I want to go back
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  Speaker 1: to something you just said, Dave Mac. The mom says
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  Speaker 1: she gets home from work around ten pm that night
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  Speaker 1: and Riley's door was shut, and she thought Riley was
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  Speaker 1: in her room, and from what she kneeds, she had
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  Speaker 1: reportedly texted her boyfriend around ten thirty that night and
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  Speaker 1: other friends until midnight. Then she tried to video call
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend around five forty am via Facebook Messenger. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and that's exactly. I don't know if you remember this
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  Speaker 1: case or not, Dave Mack, but Nicole Lovell Okay, she
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  Speaker 1: was just turned thirteen. Okay, she was barely out of twelve,
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  Speaker 1: and she found a quote boyfriend on kik. Turned out
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  Speaker 1: to be an engineering major at Virginia Tech. He had
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  Speaker 1: been the valedictorian, He's a track star, the whole shebang,
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  Speaker 1: and he had been molesting this child and ended up
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  Speaker 1: luring her out of her home and killing her. But
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  Speaker 1: the mom that night, Nicole went to bed and shut
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  Speaker 1: her door, and the mom didn't think anything about it.
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  Speaker 1: He came up and lured her out of the window.
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  Speaker 1: So Dave Mcki explained this timeline to me. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a little girl, Riley Croftsman, who goes missing. Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to our friends over at w d v AM.
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  Speaker 1: This is to search. Efforts from Sheriff's steputies to the
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  Speaker 1: FBI along the Department of Homeland Security continue to actively
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  Speaker 1: search for Riley Crossman. Who's been missing since the evening
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  Speaker 1: hours of May seventh to May eighth. While sheriff's deputies
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  Speaker 1: are facing some challenges with the weather, one thing's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: We're investigating all possibilities. We don't have any belief at
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  Speaker 1: this point in time that she ran away. Volunteers have
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  Speaker 1: been looking in the immediates of Berkeley Springs the Morgan
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  Speaker 1: County area. Riley will Flasien at her mother's home in
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  Speaker 1: Berkeley Springs. Her parents were alerted when Riley missed school.
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  Speaker 1: Her father lands desperately asking for the public's help. Everyone's
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  Speaker 1: drying really hard. Once the weather subsides, anticipates searching new areas.
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  Speaker 1: In situations like this, you want to search areas such
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  Speaker 1: as waterways, lakes and dumping spots things of that nature,
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  Speaker 1: and police are working very hard. Would you really want
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  Speaker 1: her to come home? I fear the story. Okay, that
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  Speaker 1: sends chills up my spine. Joining me right now out
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  Speaker 1: of Arizona licensed clinical social work or Ashley Kelly Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: You know when the parents are standing by and the
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  Speaker 1: child goes missing, what can they do? Their heart is breaking,
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  Speaker 1: But other than run up and down the streets screaming
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  Speaker 1: for their child. What can they do well? How do
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  Speaker 1: you deal with that and become useful into search. That's
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  Speaker 1: a really good question, Nancy. It's difficult when you're in
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  Speaker 1: a state of shock like that, missing a child, to
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  Speaker 1: be able to sink clearly and remember details anything like that,
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  Speaker 1: it's really hard. Ashley, Yeah, absolutely. I would usually advise
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  Speaker 1: somebody to work with me on mindfulness activities and being
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  Speaker 1: able to breathe through it, to bring our frontal lobon line,
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  Speaker 1: to be able to sink clearly and be able to
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  Speaker 1: offer whatever help they can. I can't imagine being apparent
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  Speaker 1: not state trying to help. So Karen Smith joining me
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  Speaker 1: out of the Florida jurisdictions for expert, founder of Bones
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  Speaker 1: Consulting the crime scene. I mean, if we have a
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  Speaker 1: crime saint, what do we do well? At this point,
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  Speaker 1: we don't, Nancy, we don't have anything. The last place
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  Speaker 1: that she was seen apparently was inside her home, So
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  Speaker 1: you start there. You start there and you work out
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  Speaker 1: if there's any evidence that, like you said that the
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  Speaker 1: one girl who was abducted out her window, was her
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  Speaker 1: window open. You look at small things like that, You
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  Speaker 1: look at her texts, you look at any Instagrams or
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  Speaker 1: any facebooks or whatever she might have in the way
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  Speaker 1: of social media that might have some clues leading up
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  Speaker 1: to her disappearance. You talk to her friends at school,
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  Speaker 1: You start with the interview process, because at this point
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  Speaker 1: we don't have a scene to work forward from or
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  Speaker 1: backward from, which is very unfortunate. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: Missing flyers are posted on almost every storefront and telephone
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  Speaker 1: pole here in Berkeley Springs, and searches up and carry
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  Speaker 1: out every day since her family realized Riley was gone,
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  Speaker 1: but so far her disappearance remains a mystery. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: did not find her at the end of that night.
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  Speaker 1: That's when I knew that something was really, really wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Lance Crossman has spent the last seven agonizing days searching
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  Speaker 1: some of the most remote, deepest, darkest corners of the
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  Speaker 1: woods for his missing daughter, fifteen year old Riley. I
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  Speaker 1: have to believe in my heart that she's still okay,
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  Speaker 1: she's still alive, which means she's gonna be inside somewhere
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  Speaker 1: and so obvious places we have in Cede motels. Something
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  Speaker 1: like this happening in your life takes you down rabbit
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  Speaker 1: holes that you never thought you would go down as
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  Speaker 1: a father, as a parent. So yeah, Riley was last
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  Speaker 1: seen at her Berkeley Springs home last Tuesday evening by
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  Speaker 1: her grandmother, who was watching her while her mom was working.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Her mother arrives home from work later that night,
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  Speaker 1: but didn't actually check, you know, didn't go in, but
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  Speaker 1: she assumed she was in her beet. Her mother got
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  Speaker 1: up in the morning, Rother's not there, But again that's
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  Speaker 1: not unusual. She gets up on her own and walks
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  Speaker 1: to school because it's across the street. Wow, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about fifteen year old Riley Crossman, just turned fifteen, who
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  Speaker 1: goes missing, ostensibly on the way to school one morning.
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  Speaker 1: Her mom works at night, comes home around ten and
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  Speaker 1: sees that her door is shut. She's been there with
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  Speaker 1: her grandmother and Dave Max, indicated talk show host, joining me.
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  Speaker 1: How many times do I dash out and leave the
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  Speaker 1: twins with my mom? She's eighty seven years old. I
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  Speaker 1: turn on the alarm, the children know not to go
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  Speaker 1: to the door. I try not to be gone over
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  Speaker 1: an hour ant but the mom did everything possible. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what do you make of the fact that the following
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  Speaker 1: morning she contacted her boyfriend at five forty a M. Well,
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  Speaker 1: here's what we know, Nancy. That phone call, that video
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  Speaker 1: video jack never actually connected. So we know that in
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  Speaker 1: the night before, according to everything that she was texting
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  Speaker 1: on her phone up until just before midnight. Five forty
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  Speaker 1: in the morning, a video call is attempted and there's
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  Speaker 1: no connection. Again, Mom looks in the room at seven fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: Riley's gone. Riley hasn't been seen for really twelve hours.
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  Speaker 1: Seven o'clock the night before when grandma saw he. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me understand something. The grandmother says she saw her
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  Speaker 1: the night before when she went to sleep, right when
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  Speaker 1: she went to her room. Sorry, about seven o'clock that night,
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  Speaker 1: when she came home and went to her room. Yes, okay, wow.
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  Speaker 1: So the following morning when she tries to video call
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend, that doesn't mean anything. But I am curious,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why I'm curious, Daryl Cohen, that
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  Speaker 1: could have been someone using her cell phone just dialing
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  Speaker 1: last known call and then clicking off before the person
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  Speaker 1: could connect. I don't know enough about that connection. Did
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  Speaker 1: the boyfriend not pick up and there no connection? Did was?
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  Speaker 1: Did he see her face briefly and then it went bad?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't know about that connection. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think could someone else have been using her phone? Well,
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  Speaker 1: certainly someone could have been using the phone, and always
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  Speaker 1: concerned you wouldn't what you want to happen doesn't. So
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  Speaker 1: then your mind goes, is there someone else using the phone?
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  Speaker 1: Was there a possible glitch? Cell phone's glitch? She wasn't
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  Speaker 1: seed that night. That's very concerning because was she there?
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  Speaker 1: Did she actually go to school? We don't know. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you about this, Dave Matt When you
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  Speaker 1: say that morning five forty am, she tries to video
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  Speaker 1: call her boyfriend but there was no connection. Did he
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  Speaker 1: hang up? Did he see her face at all? What
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  Speaker 1: do you mean there was no connection? Now? Man? Ready,
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  Speaker 1: he actually missed that video call, according to what he
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  Speaker 1: has said, that because they had been video conferencing the
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  Speaker 1: night before at around ten thirty at night, and when
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  Speaker 1: in five forty the next morning, there was a video
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  Speaker 1: call made, but he missed the call. Okay, that's what
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  Speaker 1: he made clear. Okay, So picking up from right there.
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  Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensics expert, I think I would be looking
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  Speaker 1: at her window, a screen on the window. Was it
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  Speaker 1: opened from the outside, was it cut? Was it pushed
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  Speaker 1: out from the inside our clothes. Missings to suggest she
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  Speaker 1: had run away to Deloye, there have been a struggle
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  Speaker 1: in her bedroom in any way, I think those are
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  Speaker 1: the clues I would be looking for in her bedroom,
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  Speaker 1: and I would try to find out did she lock
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  Speaker 1: her door? One more question, Dave Mack. That morning, when
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  Speaker 1: the mother sees at seven fifteen, she's not in her bed.
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  Speaker 1: To the mother beliefs she had already gone to school, Yes, ma'am,
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  Speaker 1: because it was not out of the ordinary. They lived
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  Speaker 1: close to the school, so getting up and being out
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  Speaker 1: the door by seven fifteen, giving her time to see
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend. In particular case, her boyfriend had a field
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  Speaker 1: trip that day and was at school a little early,
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  Speaker 1: so there was no hint there was anything wrong. When
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  Speaker 1: mom looks in at seven fifteen and she's gone, wow, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So that means there's a twelve hour lead. Because the
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  Speaker 1: grandma had eyes on her at seven the night before,
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  Speaker 1: seven to fifteen in the morning, she's gone. So the
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  Speaker 1: mother did not think to call the school. Why should she?
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  Speaker 1: So Karen Smith back to the bedroom. What do we
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  Speaker 1: do with anybody to do a video chat? You know,
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  Speaker 1: a phone call? Would be a little different. You could
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  Speaker 1: hang up and try to map back. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't take video calls because most of the time
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  Speaker 1: my hair is piled on top of my head. I
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  Speaker 1: have no makeup on. So I take phone calls, but
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  Speaker 1: not video calls. That's a pretty bold thing for a
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  Speaker 1: suspect to do with a victim's phone. In my eyes,
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  Speaker 1: the bedroom, as far as the screen, all of those
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  Speaker 1: things need to be Okay, wait a minute, Wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. I hear what you're saying, Karen. At first,
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  Speaker 1: I was disagreeing with you because I thought you were
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  Speaker 1: saying the boyfriend wouldn't pick the phone up because he
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  Speaker 1: had his hair in a towel, okay, And I'm like, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I think he would pick up. But you're saying if
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  Speaker 1: a purp had her phone at five forty am and
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  Speaker 1: he called on a video chat, right, then that's pretty
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty gutsy. That's a big dare because the boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: could have picked up. Translation, you think that was her
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  Speaker 1: making the call at Okay, go ahead, that's just my contention.
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  Speaker 1: Yes I do, which kind of narrows a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a window. Doesn't mean she was in her bedroom
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  Speaker 1: when she made that call. It doesn't mean that she
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  Speaker 1: was home when she made that video call. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know where she was. So the bedroom, let's go back
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  Speaker 1: to that, the screen, the window, Yes, was there a
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  Speaker 1: lock on the door? Did anybody hear anything? Was there
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  Speaker 1: anything weird going on in the house. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 1: everybody's probably sleeping at that point, especially the mom since
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  Speaker 1: she works nights. You know, this is very very strange.
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  Speaker 1: You have a very responsible young girl who just disappears. So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: her bedroom should have been the first focal point for investigators.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. We are talking about a young girl going
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  Speaker 1: missing in West Virginia. Riley Crossmand goes to bed that night,
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  Speaker 1: goes to a room around seven pm. Grandma's watching over
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  Speaker 1: her while mom is at work. The next morning, Mom
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  Speaker 1: gets home at ten pm the night before Thanks, daughter's asleep,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't wake her up. Next morning, fifteen, she's gone. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this past week, this past week, and don't laugh, this
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  Speaker 1: past week, Dave Mack, the twins went to their first sleepaway. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: scout camp. As you probably know now, girls are scouts
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  Speaker 1: and boys or scouts too, so it was you know,
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  Speaker 1: boy and girl. They both went it was their very
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  Speaker 1: first time ever sleeping away from home. Okay, of course
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  Speaker 1: Mommy went. Mommy also went to Scout camp and forced
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  Speaker 1: my husband David to go to Scout camp as volunteers. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me just say that not at one moment did
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  Speaker 1: Lucy ever know that I was stalking her. Okay. I
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  Speaker 1: hid behind every tree, every outhouse, every tent, so she
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  Speaker 1: My point is, you know, every morning and during the night,
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  Speaker 1: I've heard so many of these stories, I go look
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  Speaker 1: at them, no matter what, you know. Before I, before
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  Speaker 1: I even you know, go make a cup of hot tea,
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  Speaker 1: I check and make sure that they're in there. At
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  Speaker 1: least I don't check to make sure they're still breathing, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: which I used to do. Now I assume that they
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: are breathing. But this is so scary to even hear this.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So the mom seven fifteen am thinks that, oh, she's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: gone to school, Alma stars. The guilt that poor woman
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: must be living with right now, you know, Nancy, it is.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: It's still shocking. But when you actually go back to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the night before, when when we last see Okay Riley,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: when mom gets home, there's a couple other children in
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the home, okay, and a boyfriend, and they're all asleep
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: in the living room. Boyfriend's on the recliner, the other
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: two are just sitting up on a couch, and Riley's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: in her bedroom. So and Grandma's you know, puring around
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: or whatever she's doing. And so, if you can imagine
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the calm and the normalness of this home that night,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: when Riley's mom gets home from working and goes on
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: about her business, it was just business as usual until
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: she wakes up, and then, you know what, all that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: day she had no idea that Riley never made it
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to school. She doesn't know that. Oh gosh, that's just
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: killing me. Comes home, everything's normal, The other children are there,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the boyfriend, she has a living boyfriend, he's there, Riley's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: in her room asleep. Everything's fine, the TV's going, They
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: all go to bed. Next morning, she wakes up, Riley's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: gone to school. Take a listen to our friends at
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Fox five to Morgan County Sheriff Casey Bore says they
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: have scoured Riley's social media, interviewed her boyfriend, family members,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: friends and teachers, but so far, no leads and no answers.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Anytime that you investigate a missing person. The longer the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: period of time passes, you started being very concerned. It's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: going to be a happy conclusion. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: The search is on for a fifteen year old Riley
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Crossman who literally goes missing from her own bedroom. Where
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: is Riley? And then the search, the massive search. Dave Max,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: syndicated talk show host, tell me about the search for Riley.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: What did it entailed? The whole community, adult volunteers, looking
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: in every every nook and cranny, looking in dumpsters, looking
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: in um and city hotels. That was one of the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: things your dad talked about, was having to go down
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: this pathway of considering all options. Looking out in the woods.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: They scoured hundreds of acres. They did it by drone,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: by four wheelers, by volunteers showing up they can. They
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: went all over this area in every possible way looking
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: for Riley. And then this presser. This morning, officers from
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the West Virginia Natural Resources Police for assist law attempt
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to locate discovered a decomposed body in the fifty five
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: block Panking Burkey Kenny. The body was positioned there an
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: embankment in a royal emappor rate section of Tutor Top,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: possibly five Interstate any one, Okay, I just feel sick
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to my stomach. This little girl's body apparently thrown down
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: an embankment in a heavily wooded area off a remote
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: West Virginia mountain road, five miles from the interstate. The
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: interstate opens up an entire plethora of possibilities because this
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: is somebody that was just driving by and sees her
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: off the interstate, a total stranger. That's like finding a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: needle in a haystack. If that's true, and it has
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: happened many times before, I'll never forget the Dylan and
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Shasta grow knee case. They're out playing in the above
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: ground pool in the backyard. A guy drives by on
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the interstate, spots them, pulls off and waits for the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: moment to go in, kill the family and get the
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: girl and the little boy, ending up killing the little boy.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: It's overwhelming now that I know it's just five miles
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: off the interstate, but interesting. Not visible from the interstate,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you'd have to know how to get to this home.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: And now her body found down in embankment. Joining me
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: right now out of South Carolina. Renowned medical examiner, doctor
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Michelle Dupree, an author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide. Right now,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: body down and embankment, what do we do? Many? The
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: first thing we do is we actually go down that embankment,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: We look at the body, We recover as much evidence
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: as we can insight to or at that location before
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: we remove the body. And then of course we do
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: remove the body and take the body back to the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: moor where we examine it thoroughly. You know, I heard
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: them say the body was already decomposing at the time
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: they find it. What does that mean to you, Nancy?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: By coming a couple of things. One, A body decomposes
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: most quickly where there are injuries. So I would be
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: thinking that there were injuries that were observable on the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: body and that's where the decomposition will start first. But
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of course also depends on the climate and the weather
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: things of that nature. Now when you say something like that,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: doctor Dupree, it depends on the climate and the weather.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, Well, hotter weather bodies decomposed faster
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: than in colder weather. Colder weather tends to slow down
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the decomposition. It also depends on the environment. Is it
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a damp area, isn't moist? What are the other environmental condition?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: You know, when you have a case like this, you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: start looking close to the person. Yes, it could be
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: some nut that sees her off the interstate. Yes it
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: could be somebody that sees her at the local shopping mall.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But every investigation starts at the nucleus. To Daryl co
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and criminal defense attorney, why is that? I mean, you
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: start with the mom, you start with the dad. Hold on,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Dave mac You keep mentioning a dad and a boyfriend.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: So the guy living at the home is the boyfriend.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Then there's the bio dad, right, Yes, ma'am. Riley's parents
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: were divorced. Okay, so they were divorced. Daryl Cohen, Why
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: do you always start at the nucleus? Well, you start
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: at the beginning because and you work out because you
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: want to always exclude every possible person who may have
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: had a last, a last meeting with Riley, last Saul Riley,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: see exactly where they are, and then you exclude their
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: testimony or you include it, and then you go further. Okay,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: well let's do that, Dave Mack. In the home, you
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: got the grandma. Let's just go ahead and rule her
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: out because statistically, the grandma killing the granddaughter, I mean,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: it has happened, very very rare. Okay, there's not even
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a name for that, okay, like parenticide or you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: there's not a name for that. But okay. Then you've
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: got the children. What children? You said siblings were home?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Who are they? She's got two younger brothers and again
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: they're not suspicious at all. Wait a minute, let's talk
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: about sibling murder. You know, the big drama when John
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Bana Ramsey's brother Burke was accused in the press of
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: killing John Bena. I said, from the get go, sibling
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: murder very rare. Statistically, almost never happens. And in this case,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of course Burke was totally innocent. That was a big mess.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But in this case, you've got two much younger brothers.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Highly doubtful, there's going to be a sibling murder. The
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: mom we think was at work, highly doubtful. The mother
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: kills her child. Then you've got the BF. Who is he?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Who is Andy McAuley? What do we know about him?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Dave Matt Everything we know about Andrew McCauley. Nancy, it's bad.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: This is a forty one year old man without a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: driver's license, who works construction. And by the way, and
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: these are all printing facts that it's over forty one
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: year old man without a driver's license, yes, ma'am, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: living with his girlfriend. I mean the children minor eleven.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I've already taken them out in the field in making
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: in my minivan and taught him how to drive. Okay,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: this guy is forty one without a license. That must
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: mean he's got a DUI or something in his past.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: There's a lot in his past, Nancy, and ento, why
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: didn't you tell me that at the beginning? What's in
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: his past? He's a he's a known drug user. He's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: got a lot of previous convictions for drugs, DUI and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: things like that, which is why he don't he doesn't
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: have a license. And apparently, and well, I'm not knocking
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: day workers or people who are construction. They're wonderful do
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of great work. But that's the kind of
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: job either somebody built that. Okay, so to me about it,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that's why I was being clear on the construction plays
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: into this, okay. And this is a guy who has
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a history of drug abuse, can't keep a job, doesn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: have a driver's license because of past convictions and apparently
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: based on his discussions without he's an habitual liar. When
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: this guy's talking, he's lying. So he was on the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: police ray. Now wait a minute again, that could be
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: said of a lot of men. Dave mac Daryl co
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: want no offense, of course, but you know, um sorry,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: but okay, never mind, I'll just let that lie. But
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Jackie Howard head is spinning around like an owl, like
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: out of the Exorcist. What is it? What is it?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Jack you just speak up? Quit with the head spinning?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: What is it? I don't understand why this woman, if
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: this guy is history, would be in the home. Okay,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: let me throw that to Ashi Kelly. Ashi Kelly, you're
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the licensed clinical social worker. Why if you know the
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: guy's history, would you have him around your children. That's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: an excellent question, Nancy. Unfortunately, a lot of times dating relationships,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: people will look past that, thinking that people can change,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately, behavioral patterns tend to repeat themselves, and that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: is absolutely a concern that he was in the home
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: with children. Let me just tell you my armchair psychologist opinion,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: do you need a man that much? Do you really
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: tell me what do you know, Dave mac about the texting.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was an eleven oh one
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: text Nancy from her to her boyfriend the night before.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Tell me about that, all right? You know, as we
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: identified earlier that she had a video chat with her
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: boyfriend at ten thirty, well, the police mentioned multiple text
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: messages between eleven and midnight. All right. At eleven oh one,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Riley sent a text to her boyfriend saying that Andy
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Andrew McCauley was in her room. About fifteen minutes later,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: she says, Andy is in my room and I'm scared.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: She didn't like Andy, and Andy was apparently in her
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: room when mom, Mom, remember it comes home at ten
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: thanks to Riley's asleep in bed, and he's asleep in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the recliner. Now Here we are at eleven and eleven fifteen,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Andy is in her room. Riley is supposedly in bed,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and here's Andy, the living drug boyfriend, and he's in
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the room and she's scared. Crime stories with Nancy Grace,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the discovery of this little girl's body rocking the whole community,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and now cops have their sights set on Mom's live
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: in Andy mcaulay. We've learned from Dave Mack talk show
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: host that he had quite a record and the timeline
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: very very disturbing because apparently whatever happened to Riley happened
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: after mom is home. Karen Smith, forensics expert, would you
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: agree with that? Yes, I would. If he is in
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that bedroom and she's texting her boyfriend that she is
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: afraid of him. This is the first place police went.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: They had him on their radar from day one. They
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: knew this was a bad guy. And those text messages
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: sent chills down my spine. Nancy, when you read those,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know, now you have a crime scene, you have
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a body found down. And give me those clothes. Give
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: me her clothes to look for trace evidence, to look
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: for DNA, to look for hairs, fibers and any other
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: evidence that were evident on her clothing. And I'm telling
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you right now, I will work that back and it
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: will link directly to Andy McCauley every single time. You know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'm very very curious back to you, Dave Mac. Police
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: are now saying that Andy McCauley to live in boyfriend
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: was a suspect from day one in her disappearance. What
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was it about him that made police suspicious? Because right away, Nancy,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: he talked about his drug use and lied about it.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: He actually lied and contradicted himself in his very first
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: interview with police. So imagine you've got a family home
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: where you've got to live in, boyfriend with an active
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: drug problem, drug charges. He claimed he didn't drive, but
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: we've got evidence of him driving a green Dodge pickup
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: truck with ladders on it at the construction site, Dave
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: mac Isn't it true that we learn McCauley called Crossman
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: multiple times in the early morning hours and blocked his
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: phone number. We also learned that McAuley Andy McCauley moms
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: live in calls her Riley at three am, three thirty
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: four am, and three fifty two am. Dave, Matt what's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: behind his early morning phone calls? What's that all about?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know Nancy other than the fact
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that he is. Obviously she's afraid of him, as we
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: know from the previous night's text, you know, to her
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: boyfriend at seventeen at night, Andy's in my room and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid. So apparently she's able to get him out
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: of the room somehow. Again, remember her mom is at
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: home and in bed, she gets him out of the room,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and now he's trying to call her, but he's blocking
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: his numbers so she will hopefully answer. She won't answer,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and we don't know. We just know that's the timeline
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: we have of contacts on her phone, but she's not
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: answering those calls. I think it's highly unusual. Let's just
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: look at the facts, Daryl Cohen, you're the defense attorney,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and I know in your mind you're going to say,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: prove nothing. But for a live in boyfriend, a dad
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: figure to be calling his girlfriend's daughter, teen girl at
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: three thirty in the morning, to be blocking his number
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: to call her, calling her repeatedly, it sounds like something
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: happened in her room, like a molestation happened that night,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and he's trying to call her to get her not
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to tell the mom. That's very very possibly what could
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: have happened. It also could be and he knew something
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: has happened to her that he has perpetrated, and he's
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: calling her to see if she's alive, to see if
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: she will answer the phone, but he certainly doesn't want
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: her to know it's him, so he blots it. He
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: tries to make it as if, Hey, I'm just checking
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: on here. Everything okay, So why would he be checking
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: on her at three to thirty in the morning. Take
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a listen to this. After a week of searching, Riley's
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: body was found about thirty miles away from her home
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: here in Berkeley Springs. The Morgan County Sheriff has charged
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: forty one year old Andy McCauley for Riley's Murder's boyfriend
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: of her mother and was a person of interest since
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: she first disappeared, But investigators have not yet released a motive.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: That's from our friends at Fox five to Daryl Cohen.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: It will bite the cops in the neck when it
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: comes out at trial that they zeroed in on him
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: day one. Now, will that preclude a guilty verdict? Probably not.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Why is that a problem for them to come out
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and say that at the beginning, So, Nancy, let's fast forward.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: We're at trial and the defense argues he was a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: suspect from the very beginning. He wasn't just a person
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: of interest. He was a suspect, and all other suspects
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: were immediately ignored. They just said, we've got what we're
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: looking for, and we're going to go for him. Well,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that's a problem unless law enforcement can show that, yes,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: he was remaining their person of interest, remained their suspect
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: that they did not exclude anyone else, whether it's the grandmother,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: whether it's co workers, whether it's neighbors, whether it's even
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: a possible school, but who may have done her in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Todave Matt, let me ask you, this are the charges
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: against Andy McCauley gonna stick. What's the evidence against him.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I've got to have more than weird phone calls at
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: three am. There's a lot of information. Of course, you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: immediately the police interviewed Andy McCauley and he began lying immediately.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: They were able to track his movements from that morning
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: when he goes to work at the construction site. Then
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: they're able to track him when he leaves the construction
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: site because there's video surveillance and things like that. The
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: police did amazing work on compiling What do you mean
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: they tracked him. They got Andy McCauley in the green
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Dodge pickup truck with two big ladders going down the site.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: They've got him on surveillance video leaving the neighborhood. They've got,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you know, the cameras they use on interstates and things
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: like that. They've got him on that going down a
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: specific route back to the home in Berkeley Spring. Then okay,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: so so far. Wait a minute, you've told me nothing suspicious.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: They've got him on video going back to the home
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and leaving the construction site. Why does that tie him
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: into a murder that makes no sense. He lied about everything.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: He lied about the direction, he lied about how long
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he was gone, He lied about driving the truck, He
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: lied about the direction that he came back to the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: construction site. And there was physical evidence in the back
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: of that pickup truck that they used cadaver dogs to find. Okay,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Let's talk about the Which way
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you drive means nothing to me unless you're leaving the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: crime scene or going to it. And I didn't hear
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that from you. So let me repeat my question, Dave
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: matt what is the evidence against him? Andy mccaulluy left
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the construction site one and drove directly back to the home.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: When he drove from the home back to the construction site,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: he took a totally different route that actually took him
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: right by where they found the body, and it was
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: not the quickest route also not the route that he
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: claimed he took. So he's lying about everywhere he's going
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and the only thing they can track him with is
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: that he's going back to the home where the car was.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: His truck was seen in the driveway back then, and
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: then they tracked him to the location of where the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: body was later found, and he still says he went
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a different direction. And then he claims he goes straight
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: back home. Its only gone for an hour and a half,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: but in fact he's gone for four hours and forty minutes,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and he goes way out of his way in an
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: area where they found the bottom line, he disappears for
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a big chunk of time, and they've tracked him too
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: near where the body is too. Karen Smith, forensics expert,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: founder of Beer Bones Consulting, What can you tell me
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  Speaker 1: about dry wall mud having a lime in it? Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: it's got lime and has all kinds of compounds in it.
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  Speaker 1: And it was in the back of that pickup truck.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently a five gallon bucket had spilled and it had
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  Speaker 1: spilled in the back of that truck. And when they
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  Speaker 1: were covered Riley's body, there were traces of that drywall
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  Speaker 1: on her clothing. What did I tell you give me
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  Speaker 1: her clothing. You take samples of the drywall mud from
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  Speaker 1: her clothes, you take samples from the truck, and you
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  Speaker 1: run that through GCMs or gas chromatography and mass spectrometry,
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  Speaker 1: which breaks down the molecular stuff. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Not
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  Speaker 1: everybody knows about mass speck. Okay, it's what she's talking about.
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  Speaker 1: It's what is used to determine drug compounds. It's a
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  Speaker 1: chemical breakdown in regular talk. They're going to compare the
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  Speaker 1: particles on her clothing, the drywall mud with lime in
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  Speaker 1: it found in his pickup bed to her clothing, and
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  Speaker 1: they can determine if it's the same lot, the same
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  Speaker 1: bat to the same everything. Speaking of evidence against him,
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  Speaker 1: Karen Smith, what else do we know? Dave Back had
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  Speaker 1: mentioned cadaver dogs tracing to the truck. That's huge. Those
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  Speaker 1: dogs are trained to sniff out human decomposition and nothing else.
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  Speaker 1: They traced that truck and said that a human body
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  Speaker 1: that was diseased had been in that truck. So now
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  Speaker 1: you have the timeline, you have his motions, you have
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  Speaker 1: the video surveillance showing the truck going to the area
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  Speaker 1: where her body was found. You have the decomposition from
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  Speaker 1: the cadaver dogs. You have the drywall on her clothing,
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  Speaker 1: the drywall on the back of the truck. Every single
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  Speaker 1: time that hypothis has circled right back around to Andy mcaulay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to have a problem at
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  Speaker 1: Dwal at all, Nancy. This drywall mud, which is used
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  Speaker 1: to repair holes in walls, splattered in the bed of
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  Speaker 1: the truck underneath the utility box also carried the scent
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  Speaker 1: of a dead body. And again her body had drywall
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  Speaker 1: mud on the shoulder of the body, on her foot,
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  Speaker 1: and on her clothes. We wait as justice unfolds. Andy
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  Speaker 1: McCaulay moms live in now charged in the murder of
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  Speaker 1: her teen girl, Riley Crossman. If you have information three
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off, good Bye friend,