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3 teams put up 2-0 starts in ECAC Hockey · The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey

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  Speaker 1: Usccho dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, and welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Todd Moleski and Nicole Hosey with you to talk women's
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  Speaker 1: college hockey. Nicole, there was a lot of interesting results
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  Speaker 1: last weekend. We're going to get into a lot of them.
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  Speaker 1: We're also going to look ahead to a what looks
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  Speaker 1: pretty exciting weekend to come with each of Friday and
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  Speaker 1: Saturday having five games of right teams on both sides
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  Speaker 1: of them, so that should be exciting.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that later.
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  Speaker 1: But looking back at last weekend, we saw the first
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  Speaker 1: weekend play in ECAC hockey and we saw three teams sweep,
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  Speaker 1: six teams split, three teams get swept. Part of the course,
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  Speaker 1: It would have been part of the course if there
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  Speaker 1: had been everyone sitting here, all twelve teams sitting here
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  Speaker 1: at one in one right, but didn't quite that far.
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  Speaker 1: We had three no starts or two no starts by
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  Speaker 1: three teams. Clarkson, Saint laws and Cornell, your thoughts on that, Well.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I'd have no offense to Saint Lawrence,
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  Speaker 3: but I wouldn't have put money on them being one
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  Speaker 3: of the three teams that swept. It's been a rough
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  Speaker 3: start to the season for them, So you know, kudos
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  Speaker 3: to them for forgetting on track when it's really necessary
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  Speaker 3: for conference play. So yeah, I just think if you'd
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  Speaker 3: have asked me before this weekend, who would have swept
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  Speaker 3: and who would have gotten the losses? I think I'd
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  Speaker 3: gotten of most of that wrong. You know, we had
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  Speaker 3: previously eight no Quidipiac suffered their first loss this weekend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know it was. It's it feels like we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna we're in for a lot of chaos in the
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  Speaker 3: e CEC, which we know that I love, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think coaches like to say, like, oh, our comfort
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  Speaker 3: is so tough. You know, every game you have to
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  Speaker 3: be prepared for. But I feel like that that's sort
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  Speaker 3: of so true for them this season, and like not
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  Speaker 3: in the coaching aphorism sort of way. There's just you
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  Speaker 3: had Dartmouth bree beating Clark or Colgate, you had Brown
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  Speaker 3: beating Quinnipiac. Like it's just it's going to be top
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  Speaker 3: to bottom. You can't you can't take your foot off
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  Speaker 3: the gas. You have to, you know, fight from from
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  Speaker 3: whistle to whistle. So I think we're gonna see I
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  Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a lot less clear cut in
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  Speaker 3: the ECAC where we have like a line of the
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  Speaker 3: top teams and and sort of the bottom teams, and
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  Speaker 3: it feels like there's gonna be it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 3: much tougher, grittier, dirtier fight this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and those because everyone plays each other, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: remembering it right, everyone just plays each other the two
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  Speaker 1: times correct, and so you get to twenty two games.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and then the rest of it is non conference.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, the one time everyone plays each other home
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  Speaker 1: and away really feels like there's that margin for air
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  Speaker 1: is less and less because of that, and where you
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  Speaker 1: get to see a you know, a Cornell and ah, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's just throw somebody at Clarkson when when they play,
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  Speaker 1: those games feel really really big and it's tough to
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  Speaker 1: get those points back if you don't win them. So
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  Speaker 1: when quinnpiac drops points against Brown like they did one
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  Speaker 1: nothing on Saturday, that's an important result. India mcdatti, you
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  Speaker 1: got the goal. Rory Edwards made thirty three saves there.
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  Speaker 1: Brown rebounding after losing the Princeton on Friday, So it's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of that. You know, Brown, we had
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  Speaker 1: talked about them as being a team to watch and
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  Speaker 1: well didn't start well but came back and got a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good win the second night of the weekend last
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  Speaker 1: last week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, you know, it's like we've talked about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when we talk about Hockey East, where like
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  Speaker 3: sort of you really have to win the points that
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  Speaker 3: like on paper, you're supposed to win. That's that's what
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  Speaker 3: we're kind of talking about here. That's like not you know,
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  Speaker 3: sort of begging on any of the teams that are
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  Speaker 3: unrinked or or any of that sort of stuff. But
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  Speaker 3: it's just that we think points are going to be
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  Speaker 3: at a super premium and so when you want to
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  Speaker 3: be fighting for that title, leaving those points you know,
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  Speaker 3: on the board or dropping them or however you want
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  Speaker 3: to say it, like that is just that's absolutely going
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  Speaker 3: to have an effect. And to your point of sort
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  Speaker 3: of only one one home, one way opportunity against each team,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's not like you can say, like, well,
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  Speaker 3: what we did in October, you know, it doesn't in
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  Speaker 3: some of the other conferences, like you have that opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to really be playing a team at your peak, and
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  Speaker 3: the way that that large conference in the scheduling goes
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  Speaker 3: like you you might be playing, particularly if you're an
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  Speaker 3: IVY team that just hit the ice, like you might
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  Speaker 3: be playing you know, these ranked and top teams like
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  Speaker 3: while you're still ramping up, and that may play into
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  Speaker 3: how things shake out when it comes to February. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's just there's really no opportunity for ramping up and
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  Speaker 3: there's no opportunity for having a bad day. And I
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  Speaker 3: think those are the sort of things that like you
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  Speaker 3: might get away with it possibly in some of the
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  Speaker 3: conferences that have a little more parody, But it looks
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  Speaker 3: like ECAC is just going to be a dog fight
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  Speaker 3: for everybody every week.
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  Speaker 1: And I think of Quinnipiac and they gave up two
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  Speaker 1: goals on the weekend and only got one win, and
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  Speaker 1: that's a tough way. They won three nothing or three
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  Speaker 1: one sorry at Yale on Friday Felicia Frank twenty five
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  Speaker 1: saves there for the Bobcats. That's that's tough, you know,
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  Speaker 1: giving up two goals and only coming out with a
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  Speaker 1: split of the weekend. But that's that's the thin margin.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like it's there in a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: games that we've seen so far non conference as well.
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  Speaker 1: For Quinnipiac that you know, it needs to get up
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  Speaker 1: there in goals or it's or it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more challenge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I point out too, I'm pretty sure Brown's
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  Speaker 3: goal was on the power plane. As we get into
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  Speaker 3: talking more of these games, like you'll you'll sort of
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  Speaker 3: hear that as a refrain, is that, like how influential
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  Speaker 3: you know, one penalty, one wrong move can be on
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  Speaker 3: the outcome of a game. And so we're talking thin margins,
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  Speaker 3: that's what we're talking about, right, Like there is like
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  Speaker 3: one mistake was made and that Brown was able to
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  Speaker 3: take advantage and then you know, shut down anything else
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  Speaker 3: kind of pay I've tried to do. And you know, well,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, we'll get into this with some of
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  Speaker 3: the other games, but I was it was a little
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  Speaker 3: shocking to me writing recaps and watching this weekend like
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  Speaker 3: that you could really pinpoint one or two things that
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  Speaker 3: really flipped some of these games and turned it from
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  Speaker 3: like you might be able to earn a massive upset
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  Speaker 3: to things got out of hand for you that quickly.
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  Speaker 3: So it's, uh, I guess I've just been it's been
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  Speaker 3: like really high stakes and really like there's I'm surprised
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about this much minutia in late October. I
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  Speaker 3: guess that's surprise, but like it's just as we generally
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  Speaker 3: talk about ramping up the season and like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: things in October you sort of can build, But right
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  Speaker 3: now it feels like there's none of that and sort
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  Speaker 3: of literally every every shift, every everything matters, which is
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  Speaker 3: is hard to believe when you get to March to
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  Speaker 3: talk about to look back and be like that might
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  Speaker 3: have been the turning point.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I get the feeling we'll be talking
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  Speaker 1: about thin margins throughout the season because there we know
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of games that that aren't close,
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  Speaker 1: but the ones between the teams that are going to
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  Speaker 1: end up at the top of.
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  Speaker 2: The conference generally are.
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's going to be fun to follow that
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  Speaker 1: I think you'd mentioned before Colgate following to Dartmouth four
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  Speaker 1: to two on Friday, Kelly Dixon with two goals for Dartmouth,
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  Speaker 1: Mikaela Heshevo with thirty four saves. It's I think one
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  Speaker 1: of those like, Okay, let's let's kind of take stock
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  Speaker 1: of all the like you mentioned before, the points that
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  Speaker 1: the teams have dropped and along the way against teams
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  Speaker 1: that maybe we weren't expecting to be in the top four.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's going to end up deciding. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to the half points that you getcy hockey
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  Speaker 1: full points there are going to matter at the end
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And I'd have to say, like Dartmouth has my attention,
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  Speaker 3: Like I think Mikhilahsheva is one of the best goalies
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  Speaker 3: like internationally in her age range. She had a great
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  Speaker 3: season last year, like amazing numbers compared to like their
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  Speaker 3: final sort of record and things like that. So the
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  Speaker 3: fact that Dartmouth went out and put up four goals,
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  Speaker 3: I mean period, but on that team, it definitely has
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  Speaker 3: me going, oh so it was that an anomaly? Are
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  Speaker 3: we going to see more of that? So for me,
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  Speaker 3: it was not just that Dartmouth got the win, but
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  Speaker 3: there if they're if they've found some offense as well,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to be a team really to reckon with
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  Speaker 3: more than I think people might have expected or would
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  Speaker 3: be prepared for.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look west for a little while, where we talked
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  Speaker 1: last week about what impact is it going to have
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  Speaker 1: on Ohio State and Minnesota both being without two players
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  Speaker 1: after they melee at the end of their game last week.
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  Speaker 1: That's their second game last week. In the end in
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  Speaker 1: the results, not not really a lot. Ohio State home
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  Speaker 1: swoop of Saint Cloud. State Minnesota goes on the road
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  Speaker 1: to sweep Minnesota Duluth.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of status quo there where it looked like there
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  Speaker 1: were some chances for the lower ranked teams there for
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  Speaker 1: Saint Cloud and for Duluth, but not able to get
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  Speaker 1: in the wind column last week.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with.
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  Speaker 1: The Ohio State Saint Cloud game on Saturday, where Saint
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  Speaker 1: Cloud is up tune to nothing. Early in the third period,
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  Speaker 1: they scored to go up tune to nothing, but then
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  Speaker 1: it's the joy Don show the rest of the way
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  Speaker 1: with the help of five minute power play.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly the game. I was thinking of what I
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  Speaker 3: was saying that earlier, like on one play and we
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  Speaker 3: never really did. It happened along the near board, so
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  Speaker 3: they're because of the camera set up there. We never
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  Speaker 3: really did get a great review and.
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  Speaker 2: I know your favorite setup.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, particularly because it felt like the commentators felt
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  Speaker 3: like it was very clear cut and based on the
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  Speaker 3: very little we could see from from the review, I
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  Speaker 3: thought I don't. I'm not sure I'm seeing it, and
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  Speaker 3: that's not it very much could have been. I have
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  Speaker 3: no idea, but for a penalty that became such a
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  Speaker 3: huge turning point in that game and basically you know,
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  Speaker 3: sort of put the win out of Saint Cloud's hands.
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  Speaker 3: I really wished we could see better what was called there.
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  Speaker 3: It was just particularly two that was happening at the
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  Speaker 3: same time as Minnesota Duluth game where we are. Some
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  Speaker 3: of our Minnesota to Louth friends were not very happy
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  Speaker 3: with the officiating, and I thought, oh, there is a
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  Speaker 3: lot going on here at once, and so yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: would have liked to see better. But yes, I you know,
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  Speaker 3: great from Saint Cloud State. I thought they played, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the exact game they would want to play in that situation,
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  Speaker 3: and and they really what's interesting for Ohio State is
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  Speaker 3: like the switch that was flipped, like they got that
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  Speaker 3: opportunity and it was over. They scored one. You knew
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't only gonna be one, right, So it's uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I guess a little unfortunate. But again, like you just
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  Speaker 3: you have to play smarter hockey, like you can't. You
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  Speaker 3: can't be putting yourself in you can't. You can't be
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  Speaker 3: pinning players against the wall and taking the opportunity of
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  Speaker 3: hits from behind her head contact. You know, it seems
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  Speaker 3: like it's been a little more reckless early on, and
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  Speaker 3: and man, that poor player, you know that that changed
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  Speaker 3: that game, flipped it immediately. And so that's what we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about. We're seeing the smallest of margins and the
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  Speaker 3: like one thing that can change the game. Because that
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  Speaker 3: went from Saint Cloud State up to nothing in a
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  Speaker 3: great position in the third period, to to upset Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State to to you know, that game completely got out
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  Speaker 3: of hand for them very quickly. Right.
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  Speaker 1: It was five to one on Friday and then four
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  Speaker 1: to two the final for Ohio State on Saturday. Joy
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  Speaker 1: Donn got the two goals to tie it, then have
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  Speaker 1: a pecial scored to go ahead, and then don scored
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  Speaker 1: to believe in empty netter or if it was, it
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  Speaker 1: was in the last minute, so I'm not sure, but
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  Speaker 1: if that was for the hat trick. Let's move over
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  Speaker 1: to Duluth, where Minnesota got a fourd nothing win on
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  Speaker 1: Friday with Hannah Clark making twenty four saves and Avia
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay scoring twice, and then a three to two victory
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday with a pair of goals from Abbie Murphy,
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  Speaker 1: who up to NCA leading total to fourteen in goals
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  Speaker 1: and twenty one in points. The Friday game on the
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  Speaker 1: Duluth side, v Gascon had to leave because of an
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  Speaker 1: injury as I understand it, but she did return to
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  Speaker 1: play on Saturday. So maybe a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: concern there briefly for not only the Luth but also
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  Speaker 1: international Canada concerns. When you're talking about rivalry series coming
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  Speaker 1: up next weekend of I'm remembering my calendar, right, So
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things happening in that series, but the
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  Speaker 1: end result of Minnesota comes out of it with two
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  Speaker 1: more wins to improve to nine in one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. On top of everything and all we've been talking
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  Speaker 3: about with minnesot I think the one thing I want
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  Speaker 3: to mention is that I think Hanna Clark, their goalie,
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  Speaker 3: is you know, we said some nice things about her
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  Speaker 3: last year too, but she might be the most underrated
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  Speaker 3: part of that team at this moment. It is not
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  Speaker 3: that Minnesota Duluth was fully dominated, particularly in that second game,
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  Speaker 3: but Clark just she plays so smoothly, she moves so
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  Speaker 3: well across the Crease. There were a number of times
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  Speaker 3: that I thought Duluth was about to score, like your
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  Speaker 3: your seconds from being like, oh, that's so exciting, and
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  Speaker 3: then she just slides across and abs the buck really
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  Speaker 3: like honestly, it looks effortless. So she's just a really
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  Speaker 3: key part to what they're they're gonna be able to
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  Speaker 3: continue to do this season. It's not just that they
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  Speaker 3: are scoring lots of goals. She's also just this huge
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  Speaker 3: change maker for them. But yeah, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: probably a disappointing series from Minnesota Duluth. They're still I
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  Speaker 3: feel like they haven't found the rhythm that I think
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  Speaker 3: they like. The pieces haven't come together to make the
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  Speaker 3: unit better than the pieces. Does that you like that
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  Speaker 3: the sum is not yet? Has it all come together yet?
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  Speaker 3: They have? There's some flashes and you can see what
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  Speaker 3: you know, Kaitlyn Clark can do with the puck. Kaitlynd Clark. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Kramer wrong sport.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be amazing if she could. But I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if she's a skater, wouldn't put it past her.
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  Speaker 3: But any Gramer, you know, Jersey Saint Markins some of
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  Speaker 3: these players. But I'm not sure that it does all
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  Speaker 3: sort of fluidly come together for that squad. Yet where
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  Speaker 3: it's like one really great unit that is playing a
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  Speaker 3: full great sixty minutes, I think that there is more.
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  Speaker 3: The ceiling is higher than what they've been able to
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  Speaker 3: put together so far.
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  Speaker 1: Also in Minnesota last week, maybe the game of the
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  Speaker 1: weekend in Saint Paul on Friday, the opening game of
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  Speaker 1: Lea Penny Anderson Arena, which looks, I mean just from
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  Speaker 1: seeing it in pictures and seeing it on video, looks amazing.
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  Speaker 1: At Saint Thomas, Saint Thomas had a non comfort series
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  Speaker 1: with Providence to open it up and ends up with
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  Speaker 1: a split. But man, then that under sells the what
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  Speaker 1: we saw on Friday, ends up seven to six in
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  Speaker 1: overtime for Providence with reichen Kirk Mayers poring four goals,
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  Speaker 1: including the winner. So after at Natural had to tie
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  Speaker 1: correct to take a two to nothing game to five
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  Speaker 1: to two, Saint Thomas comes back, takes the lead six
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  Speaker 1: to five, and then I believe it was Jesse Pellerin
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  Speaker 1: scored in the final minute to send it to overtime
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  Speaker 1: for Providence.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot to deal with there, A lot to
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  Speaker 1: handle as you're watching what was really kind of a
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of ceremony with that game of you know,
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  Speaker 1: what's the first this, what's the first this? Well, there's
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  Speaker 1: your first four goal scorer, and it just happens to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in your first game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and even going back right, the very first goal
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  Speaker 3: in that game was twenty three seconds in Providence took
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  Speaker 3: the lead firs and then you know, it's two to
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  Speaker 3: two at the end of the second and you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: or at the end of the first, and then the
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  Speaker 3: second gets completely out of control for you know, Providence
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  Speaker 3: runs away with it, and so yeah, that third period
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  Speaker 3: was just like what, I'm so confused, Like you look
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  Speaker 3: at that final score if you watched Eddie point in
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  Speaker 3: that game and walked away, and you're like, I what
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  Speaker 3: did I miss? And honestly, the weirdest part is that
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  Speaker 3: third period didn't feel that prenetic, like you're like, if
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  Speaker 3: I tell you what was five to so like you know,
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  Speaker 3: many more goals are coming and you're like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 3: there's like twelve minutes left on the clock and we're
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  Speaker 3: still sort of like it was just a very strange situation.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I felt like maybe Providence was sitting back
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  Speaker 3: a little and happy with their lead, and I feel like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe that kicked that that intermission kicked Saint
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  Speaker 3: Thomas a little bit in the button and they were like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is not how we want to go out in
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  Speaker 3: our first game in our new home. But Providence was not.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you just watched that third period, Providence was
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: barely in the offensive zone, like they weren't possessing the puck,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: they weren't really moving it. I will say I think
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: the shot total was probably not well kept in that game,
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: or we just had some I mean, the tweets from
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: that game were coming out, you know, hours afterwards. I
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: think there's probably some life issues the sound out something
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: and the sound on the game did not match up
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: to the actual videos and stuff like that. So I'm, uh,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: we'll give it a pass. But Providence had the same
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: number of shots before and after a goal, so that's
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: difficult to believe. Uh but yeah, so but if you
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: look at the numbers, you're like, how did Providence score
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: seven goals because it looked like they never held the
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: puck in the third period, And then yeah, it was
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: It was very interesting to watch Saint Thomas chip away
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden and you're like, okay,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: this is amazing. They've totally controlled this. This what great
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: for them when their first you know, their first game
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: at home and it's like they forgot what Providence was
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: capable of it had done earlier, and so Krishmuer just went,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: you know, does what she does in the in overtime
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: peller and tied it with thirty seconds to go. It
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: just it was It was such a strange game, but
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: like delightfully fun if you're not a fan of either team.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Absolutely that was just like I had it on in
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the background here as I was doing other things. It
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: was like every time I looked up for that, there
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: was another goal. Dupe the start yep, here we go again.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's uh, those are the yeah, the best
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: games when you are not tied to either program, because
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it's just enjoyment. There's action or if you like or
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: if you're a fan of goaltending, I mean, or if
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Replace their Goali at one point and yeah, it's uh,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: it was interesting. But I said to you before we
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: came on, it's what's with all the scoring and bunches?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like we never see you know, four goal
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: outputs or you know, we had two natural hat tricks
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: this weekend and I think three or four total hat tricks.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Just it's very interesting to me. We tend to not
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the parody in like the way that teams match up.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: You tend to not see one player doing, you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: being able to do everything, Like the defenses are too
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: good to let one player do all that. So yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Breaking Kursemeyer had a heck of a game here, and yeah,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: it's interesting to me. It's something I feel like I'm
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: gonna be keeping an eye on because you just tend
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to not see that very often. We didn't. We didn't
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: in the ECS even and Yale Krena d' antonio also
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: had a hat trick. So yeah, I don't. It's strange,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: it's interesting to me.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Saint Thomas bounced back for a five on win
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: on Saturday to get that split. Let's bounce back East
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: quickly before we take a break. Hockey East BC Boston
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: College out to a three and oh start after winning
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: at Merrimack two to one on Saturday. They also beat
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Holy Cross in Providence a couple of weeks ago. That's well, right,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: we've seen where Bus had its struggles. They did finally
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: get a win last week. But now as we're looking
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: in the more you know, conference games, we're starting to see, well, okay,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: BC's played three conference games and one of all that's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: that's what's going to go a long way in the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: end of what the playoffs look like. There is you know, yeah,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: maybe the non conference didn't go well. They you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: they went out to Minnesota and.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a tough go of it, Like, yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: it had a rough time. Yeah, but it was a
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: tough schedule.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: But now you're back in your conference and if if
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you can dial that in that that looks okay.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: You know, we said, like the conference is the most important.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: One of the series this weekend that I thought was
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: really interesting was was Yukon and Mercyhurst, which was maybe
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: closer than I expected it would have been. So I
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: know that mercy Hurst would lad to their series events
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Penn State to show them off a little more. But
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: mercy Hurst, I think is a team that's going to
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: continue to be someone we've got to keep an eye on,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: and I think that was probably a little eye opening
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: for for Yukon. They eked out, you know, for three
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: win and yeah, I just uh, interesting is really the
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: word of the week. I think, just like, hmm, that
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: is not how I expected that to go.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: We we learned as we.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Go here is Uh doesn't matter how long we've been doing.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: What we think now is not what we're going to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: be thinking in February. I guarantee you that. So and
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that's the fun of it is that we're going to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: figure it out as we go along, and for sure
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll know something by the end.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't hold out.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I never feel like I really do. But okay, let's
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: take a pause there.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: When we get back, we will talk about what's coming
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: in this upcoming week, which is a action packed week
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: when you look at it on the on the schedule,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: so plus some international hockey news.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Stay with us on the podcast.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast. Todd and Nicoll with you
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: with a brief international break here before we actually get
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to an international break which comes next week. Some news
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: cut coming from Sweden this week, where Erica Holst has
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: been named the full time coach of Sweden for the
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: period starting after the Olympics. This coming well, in this
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: res this coming February. Nicole, I know you wrote about
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: this on Victory Press. Erica Wholse a Hall of famer
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: at both in Sweden and at Minnesota Duluth where she
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was part of national titles in the early two thousands.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: How big of a step is this.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Would you say, for her and also for Sweden to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: move in that direction.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's kind of huge for both. Interestingly, like
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: she says that, you know, coaching, she was doing some
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: like hockey development stuff but not necessarily coaching, and her
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: former U m D in Sweden teammate Kim Martin said hey,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: do you want to coach and brought her over to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: for Lunda, where Kim is the GM and Erica led
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Forlinda to the SDHL title last year sort of kind
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: of famously big deal. They upset Lulia who had sort
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: of a stranglehold on that championship. This year for Lunda
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: has won their first fifteen in a row. So just
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: did She seems to be a really natural coach. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: always think it's super important to get more women coaching,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: particularly internationally, and then there's someone sort of no one
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: better than Erica in Sweden. She was the first woman
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: inducted into the Swedish Hockey Hall of Fame. She appeared
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: in three hundred and twenty seven games for Sweden internationally,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: four Olympics, eleven World Championships. As as Todd mentioned, she
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: was a national champion at Minnesota luth in two thousand
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: and one, two thousand and two, two thousand and three.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: She had two hundred and four points in one hundred
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: and twenty seven games, which is ridiculous numbers. She was
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: a captain of the senior national team. Like there's there's
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: something to be said for someone that's been there and
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: done it all then taking over for a team, it's
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: just it's a really huge step. And she's someone so
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: she actually played. If you're all familiar with international hockey.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: In Sweden, they have something called TV Puckin, which is
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: their like U sixteen boys national tournament. They now have
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: a girls' version, but she played in the She's one
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: of the only women that ever played in the boys version,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: and so she has sort of seen this whole growth
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: from women talking when when nobody liked that girls were playing,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: there weren't opportunities and and you know, she got some
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: hate for playing in that tournament. Now to leading for
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Lunda in the SDHL and sort of the current landscape
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: of women throw in international hockey, and so I just
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: think it's a it's a huge hire. It's really cool
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: to see a former player get that. And again, like
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: this is someone who came to the NCAA sort of
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: at the very beginning, in the very early years, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: so I think there's just so many experiences and and
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: things that she can teach and know and and help
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: that team sort of get back to where they want
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to be, which is, you know, perpetually competing for for
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: a bronze medal and hopefully more. But the first thing
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: they got to do is get back into that like
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: three four position, which is just not somewhere they've been recently.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So I think, you know, they they were doing okay.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any huge reason for the change.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: They're leaving their current coach there through the Olympics. She
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: is close out the SDHL season, But yeah, I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: it's a it's a huge opportunity for for Sweden and
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: back to the U eight teams that were there two
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: three years ago when I was there, they really seem
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: to be making a push to put a focus on
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: girls and women's hockey. The federation is they're really trying
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: to make sure that the SDHL is a growing is
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: it opportunity for homegrown talent, and so they like there
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: are rules about how many players in Sweden need to
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: be on h team or things like that, and so
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I just I think it's another good step that shows
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: that their federation is is serious in trying to continue
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: to grow and compete and be a player at that
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: international level, which I think is just important. You know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I think maybe some of that came naturally to certain countries,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: you know, sort of in the early days of the
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: World Championships and the Olympics, and now we've seen like
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: one check Ye put that huge investment in like what
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: that did. So I'm glad to see other countries sort
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: of responding to that and not just resting on like well,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: we've always just done okay in hockey, and people grow
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: up playing here, so we have some good players. So
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just hoping it's another good stuff for them.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we will talk more international hockey next week ahead
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of the rivalry series US and Canada, but let's get
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: back to looking ahead to NCAA Games this week, where
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I'd mentioned before Friday and Saturday, you've got each day
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: five games between teams that are ranked in top fifteen,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: which is ridiculously good scheduling. So whoever did it salute
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to you? No, not really, but it really just sometimes
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: it means that there, well, there are six ranked teams
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in WCHA and they have to be you know, going
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: against each other this week, and then a couple matchups
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of ECAC teams as well.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So let's take a look at some of those.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Let's start Minnesota number three at number one Wisconsin Friday
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and Saturday. Wisconsin last season did what no one has
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: ever done before and win six games against Minnesota in
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: one season. I know that lives on with the Gophers.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: The Gophers who now are deeper, They can be more
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: than Abby Murphy offensively.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Much more.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: They are obviously you mentioned a great goaltending, but they
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: have to go into Lebon Arena and show it. That's
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: easier said than done for most teams, but I know
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: they take that as a challenge and Brad Frost is
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: going to have them ready to go at it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's I mean with Minnesota Wisconsin border
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: battle like that's perpetually a really you know, sort of
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: like Circle down the Calendar, really fun and interesting series.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: But the minutia that you you know, some of the
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: stuff that you just mentioned, the small details or what's
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: going to make this interesting. Like you know, Wisconsin has
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: had some injuries to their top liners, but if you
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: mentioned some of them, we're back in practice, you said
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: on social media, and so like you know, it's not
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Wisconsin after whole strength, but also Wisconsin was missing Leila
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Edwards and Christensen's and Landy Potter and clear and right
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: stepped up to the top top line and had an
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: amazing weekend and ended up as w C h A
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Ford in the week. So, as I said on social media,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: this is why people hate Wisconsin, you know, it's it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: they just they just move up the next great player
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: and they step up into that role. But I yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot of sort of like
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: variables and and how those things sort of match up
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and play out. There's there's not a lot of surprises
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: between these two teams. Those two coaches know each other,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: respect each other very well. We always talk about it
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: being a chess match, but I'm not sure that there's
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: either anything Mark or Frosty could do that would shock
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: the other one. And and also neither one of them
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: is uh much for shock and awe, right, like they're there,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: they're kind of old school dudes, and so yeah, I
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: think it'll be interesting. I think officiating is gonna play
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: a huge part. I think both teams need to be smart,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: keep that in check. And there's gonna be pushy chovy,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: and there's gonna be extracurriculars and like you got to
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: be able to just skate away from it and go
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: over to the faceof dot and and that's gonna be
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: on both sides. So I think, yeah, it's how the
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: games officiated, how tightly it's officiated. I think we'll have
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a very interesting impact. And I think to special teams
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: like you just you can't give either of these teams
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: additional opportunities. And so yeah, that's the that's where all
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: the fun is going to be in these games, right,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Like who's doing better at face offs, who's gonna, you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: make those mistakes or get called for things? And yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I I I'm a little worried about the physicality and
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: and just like I feel like I'm on the edge
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: of my seat in terms of like I'm gonna watch
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: through my fingers. We add all of this that it's
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: on Halloween and Madison, which is a ridiculous, ridiculous thing
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: to be doing, but here we are.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Will be a fun walk back to the car after
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the game Friday night.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: About you think you've her taken this one?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: So I I remember from last year, I don't remember
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the stats exactly, but I know Wisconsin held Abby Murphy
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to be very quiet scoring wise. I don't know if
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: she scored at all in those six games, and I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: can't remember off the top of my head if that's
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: true or not, but it was limited. But I feel
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: like the Gophers have more to push with this year,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and so maybe exactly there there's there's secondary and more
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: support after that. So, uh, that will be a difference.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a difference. I don't
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: know what it's going to look like. I mean, we
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: still got really good defenses and really good goalies on
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: both sides, so a lot of factors going into that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You mentioned, you know, penalty, special teams, power players are
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: gonna be huge if we even get there. We've seen
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: some games where uh it, our phrees tend to even
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it out. You know, if there's a penalty, well well
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: we're taking two, so no power play. But yeah, it's
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: it should be a good one. It's it's one of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a few good ones around the w c h A
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: this week because also number five Minnesota lou that number
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: ten Saint claud State, in a series of teams that
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: are looking to rebound after coming close last week, like
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: we said against Ohio State and against Minnesota, but not
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: quite not quite getting there.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: So who do you think do we feel.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Like there's a team that needs it more than that
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: needs a couple of wins more? I mean, I don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: know I can make arguments by.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just in terms of sort of like
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: where you end up in the standings in like Saint
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Cloud's States position is more preherious, you know, they're lowered
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: down and so they're more looking to solidify that like
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: they're going to make the tournament. But I do I
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: think Minnesota Duluth needs a couple big wins. I think
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: they need both for themselves and for the sort of
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: their their larger reputation, UH to to get a couple
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: of wins and come out against a ranked team and
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: improve that. Like this is the number five team in
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: the country. You know, one thing that will be interesting
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: here is is my impression of Saint Cloud's state the
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: past few weeks has just been their quickness, their their
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: fast breaks, their transition, like they have put on the
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: speed this year. When they played St. Thomas two weeks ago,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: it was like watching a track meet, just up and
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: down the ice. And that is generally not Minnesota de
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: loose thing, particularly like they're they're very solid when they're
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: set in their defense, and so how they handle that
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: and it's just not the style they play. It's not
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: that I don't think that they can handle it, but
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: you're talking to sort of stylistically two very different approaches there,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: and so how that shakes out. I think this is
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: kind of going to be the thing that decides what
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: happens in this game. Those games.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Saint Thomas, what you had mentioned last week, has been
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: on a long startch of road games to allow their
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: arena to be ready. Now gets back to back home
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: series and this time it's number two Ohio State coming
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: in for the first uh you know, w c h
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: A games in and Anderson Arena. It doesn't get any
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: easier for Saint Thomas here that after that wild game
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: last Friday, having Ohio State coming in, but they've they've
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: shown they can play with the Buckeyes and and be
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: right there with them and and you know, get a win.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: At the end.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: It's interesting. There's usually I don't think that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: That sort of matches up well against the other one,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: and for some reason, it's seeing Thomas against Ohio State.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And and so that's why I don't put anything
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: past the Tommies. This week is a you know, they're
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: they're gonna feel like they've been up to the challenge before.
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  Speaker 2: Why not.
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  Speaker 3: They had two one goal overtime losses. Basically they they
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: pushed Ohio State to their limit and and sort of
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: ran out of gas there at the end. And so
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  Speaker 3: I think those are huge lessons learned. I'm sure that
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: it's something they've been working on it talking about since
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that happened. And yeah, So in that way, I think
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: that those games last weekend were really important and prepping
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  Speaker 3: for for this series and that that is going to
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: be interesting for sure. I think I think Ohio States
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: showed how adaptable they are last a week. You know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: they had two defenders on their third offensive line and
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: didn't have any issue like it. You wouldn't have known
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: any different, and we knew that, but it's still it's
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: another thing to go out and do it. And so
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  Speaker 3: I think the problem maybe even more so than in
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: years past, Not that Ohio State has ever not been deep,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: but I think their depth is even even greater this year.
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  Speaker 3: Like the talent that you're talking about playing on second
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: and third lines here are like international, These are these
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: are women that are going to continue to be international superstars.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Hilldis Fenson has just been you know, sort of off
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: the charts good and so I just think you're going
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: to continue to see like that team grow and and
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: so I think maybe for seeing Thomas, it's it's good
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: to see them a little earlier here this season when
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: they might match up little better. But I think that's
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: where Ohio State is going to prove most difficult. It
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: is that it's sort of that relentlessness that they're so
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: known for that they really try for is like literally
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: for the full sixty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in ECAC hockey, we had number four Cornell and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: number eleven Colgate hosting ranked teams as travel partners.
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  Speaker 2: They flip flop.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: So on Friday it's number fourteen Yale at Cornell and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: number fifteen Brown at Colgate and then reverse those on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking for Colgate.
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  Speaker 1: To show some signs of stability here. I think this
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: is the point where, Okay, it's been a little bit
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of a bounce back and forth start to the season.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: When you've got two games at home against Yale and Brown,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: this is an important point for them to show that
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: they can get to wins in a week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I think, like you said, stability, but also
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: just like show some fire that like that's not that's
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: not the expectation for us, and we don't like that
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: that happened, and and we're gonna come back out with
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: some fight. It's one of the things we talk about
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: me sometimes not seeing from teams other times, and so
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I yeah, that to me would be like even if
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: it's a loss, Like I think they just really need
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: to come out and like put really play their hockey,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: really try and put their print on the game. And
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: that I think we'll say more than than the final
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: score will. I think they just we need to see that,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: like it just feels like they haven't quite kind of
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: like I was saying with Minnesota, Delu, like it just
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: hasn't all come together for them. Like I think they're
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: still struggle struggling a little bit to sort of define
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: who they are after you know, some really big name
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: graduation players graduated last year, and so like, what does
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: this team look like now? And that's not just like
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: having Culty gone, but like it's it's a lot of
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: different parts, right, It's sort of on every part of
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: the ice, including a net, and so yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a team that is still gonna be
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: in the conversation for you know, titles and the tournament
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: at the end of the year. But I think sooner
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: rather than later, they gotta they gotta show a little
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: bit of fire and that they're they're gonna figure this out.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And Cornell is four games into its season because they
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: started later than everyone else the Apes generally do. But
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: they've played four games and they've allowed four goals. No
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: surprise there, right, I mean.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Interestingly, it was you know, it's two goals in two
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: games and then two shutouts, and so it's it's that
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: sort of up and down is a little interesting, particularly
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: because I think, again no offense to to b C
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and Harvard, but like Cornell, you know, the Final four
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: or Frozen fourteen from last year. I was a little
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: surprised at the two goals given up in some of
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: the so, you know, again like I'd just like to
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: see some of that stability, like who are you? What
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: is what is the makeup of this team? And what
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: are we going to be able to expect from you?
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: And and sort of two statement wins this week and
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: from them I think would really sort of solidify that
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: they're you know, this is the team that they are,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: and then they want to be in the Frozen Worgan
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: In Hockey East, Boston University which got its first one
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: of the season last week against New Hampshire as a
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: whole and home series number twelve Northeastern, so critical Hockey
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: East points on the line there when it's going to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: come down to it if those teams are going to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: be involved in the title race, could be some important
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: points this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I we talked about it with ECC
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: but this week, but I think in the past, we know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: even previewing Hockey East, like we know that literally everything
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: is going to matter there. I think we saw it
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: come down to the very you know, last weekend, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: we saw the Hockey East tournament come down to a
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: number of overtime games. I just think the margins here
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: could not be slimmer and and you just really have
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: to to go out there and take advantage and take
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: what is available to you. It's one of the things
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: that I feel like their teams just generally are haven't
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: done right. Like that's the fire that I'm talking about
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: in those other games. I want to see someone go
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: out here and be like, no, like this is ours,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Like come take it from us. And so that's that's
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: what I'm always looking for from a Hockey East team
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: because I feel like that that bit is not has
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: not been shown to the best advantage.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: That has been the history correct, Okay, anything else the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: paying attention to this week.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: That playing each Other's Sacred Heart and Saint Anselm both
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: tied at the top of the conference with ten points.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Want to point out that, you know, we mentioned assumption,
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: but like they're still three zero and one in, they're
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: in in their conference, they're you know, one point back
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: with nine points. So I just you know, excited to
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: see a newer team and a team that has you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: sort of generally been lower in the standings, be in
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: that position, so excited to see if they can continue
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: to keep it up. But yeah, that's st Ansel's Sacred
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Heart series. I think is going to be sort of crucial.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: And I imagine because when I say that, it usually
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: means that they just split and we don't learn anything
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: more to help us figure it out. But I'll be
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: looking at those, you know, sort of again the minutia
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: those games to see you who might be who might
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: have those the advantage, and I think whoever comes out
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: with more points, assuming it's not a split, is it's
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: going to have the edge heading you know, looking for
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: the regular season championship.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yep, A lot to pay attention to this weekend. Can
• 40:33
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• 40:36
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• 40:39
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