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Lesley Groff And The Transcript From Her Epstein Related Trip to Congress (Part 15) (7/11/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with Leslie Groffs transcript from her
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  visit to Congress. Question I'd like to ask you some
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  questions about Glenne Maxwell. What was your understanding of her
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  relationship with mister Epstein. Answer? I thought they were dear
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  friends who had known each other for quite a long
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  time before I arrived there at the office, and I
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  believe that he that she was his office manager. Question,
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  So it was your understanding that she worked for mister
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  Epstein in addition to being his friend. Correct answer correct question.
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  Do you know what mister Epstein paid Miss Maxwell while
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  she worked there? Answer no question. Do you know when
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  Miss Maxwell stopped working for mister Epstein? Answer I don't
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  know when she truly stopped, but I think it was
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  around twenty ten, twenty eleven something like that. Question was
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  miss Maxwell you're a supervisor at any point? Answer no question.
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  Were you ever aware of Miss Maxwell soliciting minor girls
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  to massage mister Epstein? Answer no question. There have been
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  reports that Miss Maxwell would say things like quote, I've
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  got to go get girls for Jeffrey, did you ever
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  hear him say anything like that? Answer no question. Did
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  miss Maxwell ever instruct you to solicit minor girls to
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  massage Jeffrey Epstein? Answer no question. Did miss Maxwell ever
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  instruct you to contact a specific person, a girl or
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  a woman to massage mister Epstein? Answer no question. Do
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  you believe that miss Maxwell should be pardoned for her crimes? Answer?
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  Knowing what I know now? Question yes, answer no question.
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  I think mister Bell has some questions. Mister Bell, question,
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  good afternoon. I have a few questions. First, I want
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  to talk about surveillance cameras in the Epstein homes. Were
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  you aware of surveillance cameras in his New York residence?
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  In mister Epstein's New York residence, Miss Groft, I knew
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  that there were cameras that looked out onto seventy first Street,
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  mister Bell, So that would be a yes, mister Graff,
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  mis Groff yes. Question. What about in his pom Beach home?
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  Miss Groff? No, And to that, her lawyer Bockner jumps in, no,
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  you're not aware or no, they didn't exist. Graff, I'm
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  not aware that they existed, Belle. Do you know where
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  the recordings from any of those cameras were stored Graff,
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  No Bell, And do you know who has those recordings
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  as of today? Graff? No question. Did you have any
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  kind of warning or advance knowledge that the Palm Beach
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  Police Department was going to search mister Epstein's home and
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  Palm Beach in two thousand and five? Answer no question.
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  Did you remove any photographs from his home? Answer no question.
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  Cameras answer no question, files, answer no question, hard drives
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  answer no question, or other documentary or electronic material from
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  his home it advanced that search, Miss Groff, No question.
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  Did you instruct anyone to do so? Answer no question.
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  Are you aware of anyone removing such items from the
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  home before the search? Ms? Groff? No question? To your knowledge,
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  did mister Epstein ever hire private investigators? Miss Groff? I
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  don't know. Question. Are you aware now that he hired
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  private investigators? Miss Groff? After preparing for this testimony? I
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  heard someone say that he yet hired. Mister Bell cuts
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  her off. So you're aware now, Miss Groff? Aware? Now? Yes? Question.
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  What was your understanding of why mister Epstein hired private investigators?
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  Miss Groff? I didn't know that he hired private investigators.
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  Mister Bell, what's your understanding now of why mister Epstein
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  hired private investigators? Answer? I don't know. Question are you
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  aware to your understanding? Are you aware of what mister
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  Epstein instructed them to do? Miss Groff? No question. Did
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  you have any role in hiring, overseeing, or paying private
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  investigators on mister Epstein's behalf at any time? Ms? Groff?
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  No question. Did you have any kind of warning or
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  advance knowledge that the FBI was going to search mister
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  Epstein's home in New York City on July sixth and seventh,
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  twenty nineteen, Miss Groff, no question. Did you ever remove
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  any photographs from that home? Miss Groff, No question. Cameras
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  answer no, files answer no, hard drives answer no, or
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  other documentary electronic material from his home it advanced that search?
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  Answer no question. Did you instruct anyone to do so?
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  Answer no question. Are you aware of anyone removing such
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  items from the home prior to the search? Answer no question.
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  Did you have any kind of warning or advance knowledge
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  that the FBI was going to raid mister Epstein's island
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  Little Saint James on August twelfth, twenty nineteen, answer no question.
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  Did you remove any photographs from Epstein's island Little Saint
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  James answer no, Files answer no, Any cameras answer no,
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  Any our drives answer no. Any other documentary or electronic
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  material from his home in advance of that search answer
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  no question. Did you instruct anyone to do so? Answer
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  no question. Are you aware of anyone removing such items
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  from the island before the raid? Answer no question. I
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  think that's all I have now. It's Representative Walkinshaw doing
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  the questioning. Thank you, miss Groff. In January of twenty
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  twenty four, President Trump posted on truth Social I was
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  never on Epstein's plane or at a stupid island. On
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  December twenty third, twenty twenty five, the DOJ released a
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  January twenty twenty internal email from an assistant US attorney
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  in the Southern District of New York, reported on by
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  multiple outlets, and the email reads, for your situational awareness,
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  I wanted to let you know that the flight records
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  we received yesterday reflect that Donald Trump on Epstein's private
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  jet many more times than previously has been reported, or
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  that we were aware, including during the period we would
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  expect to charge in the Maxwell case. Yikes, not good
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  for Trump, right? Why are you lying about being on
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  the plane? Bro In particular, he listed as a passenger
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  on at least eight flights from between nineteen ninety two
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  and nineteen ninety six, including at least four flights on
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  which Maxwell was also present. Miss Groff, Obviously, the flight
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  records described pre date your employment with mister Epstein, but
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  I want to focus on the time that you were
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  working for him February two thousand and one and onward.
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  During your tenure working for mister Epstein, did you ever arrange, confirm,
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  or log any travel for mister Trump or his family
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  Groff No, Walkinshaw. Anyone identifying themselves as acting on his
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  behalf a board any of the aircraft that belonged to
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  mister Epstein Graff no Walkinshaw. Or you ever instructed by
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  mister Eppstein or anyone else to handle any Trump related
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  travel or correspondence through any channel other than your normal
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  scheduling procedures. Graff no Walkinshaw. Okay. Were you aware at
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  any point during or after your employment that mister Trump's
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  Marra a Lago club had been subpoenaed in the Maxwell case?
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  Groff no. Walkinshaw. Did you ever communicate directly or indirectly
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  with anyone at Marra a Lago in connection with any
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  law enforcement or a grand jury inquiry into either mister
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  Epstein or Miss Maxwell's conduct. Miss Groff no, Walkinshaw, Okay,
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  switching gears. During your time of employment with mister Epstein,
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  were you aware of Virginia Roberts at the time known
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  as Virginia Roberts had been recruited for mar A Lago
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  and Epstein's orbit in or around the summer of two thousand,
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  Miss Groff no, Walkinshaw. Did you ever arrange travel, scheduling
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  or compensation for Miss Roberts in your capacity as mister
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  Epstein's assistant, Graf, I don't recall, Walkinshaw. Did you have
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  any knowledge or awareness of any meeting between mister Ebstein
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  and Miss Roberts at the time, Graf? Did I coordinate
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  a meeting? Answer or did you have any knowledge of
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  any meetings? Graf? It's possible. I don't know. It was
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  a really long time ago, but it's possible, Walkinshaw. So
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  it's possible that you had knowledge of those meetings, Grof. Well,
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  if I was directed to make an appointment it's possible,
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  but Palm Beach was not really my area of where
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  I was booking appointments. Lock Inshaw. Okay. So it's possible
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  that you arranged scheduling related to miss Roberts' role, which
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  you believed was as mister Ebstein one of his assistants.
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  You might have Grof didn't know what her position was.
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  Lock Inshaw, But it's possible you scheduled meetings gets cut
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  off by Grof an appointment. It's possible, lock in Shaw, Okay.
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  Did you arrange or is it possible that you arranged
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  any travel or a compensation for Miss Roberts during that
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  time period? Graf, I don't recall. I don't know Walkinshaw. Okay.
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  And did you have any awareness of travel or a
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  compensation being arranged to Miss Roberts? Groff? No, I don't
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  recall Walkinshaw. Okay, thank you. That's all I have. Next up,
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  Miss Taled, do I get recognized or just go go ahead? Taled?
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  Go ahead? Do you have something to say? Graff? No? Question? Okay?
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  Where were you based primarily? Miss Groff? I was based
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  in New York? Question New York? Okay? Did you do
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  travel for him? I know you probably got asked this before.
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  Did you book travel for him? Groff? I did book
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  some travel for him? Question even for his guests? Answer? Yeah,
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  for his guests as well as him. Question was President
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  Trump any of his guests that you booked travel for? Answer?
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  I never booked travel for mister Trump. Question but he
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  was never He was never one of the guests that
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  you book travel for Groff. Correct. Question. Okay, what did
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  you receive from the Epstein of State? I know you
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  sued them. You sued the Epstein of State. How much
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  money did you receive from them? Mister Whitcomb, Just for clarity,
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  she never sued them. Question Okay, you all sued, Witcomb,
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  we made no We made a claim, but we didn't
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  commence a lawsuit. Question okay, Oh, you settled out of court.
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  Wouitdcom correct to lib? Okay, for the record, he pointed
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  that you settled out of court. You did get something.
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  Are you allowed to tell us how much you got
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  through that settlement? Witcomb? Yes, yes, I think several hundred
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  thousand to lib. Okay, you don't have the exact number,
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  so two hundred thousand, Witcomb, three hundred thousand to lib
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  three hundred thousand, would come approximately for legal for reimbursement
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  of legal fees. Question Okay, did you ever witness women crying? Answer?
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  No question coming out of because you said you bood
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  massages forum, right Groff? Early in my employment, yes, question Yes,
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  when you booked the massages, you had to call the
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  women and arrange it, Groff, as directed by mister Epstein.
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  He would tell me you would oh, yes, question and
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  you call them answer yes, question You had all their
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  numbers everything, right Groff. He would sometimes provide a number.
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  Question yeah, answer and the name. And you never saw
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  any of them come out crying. Question Answer, I didn't
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  work at his home, okay. Question answer, I only worked
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  at Helmsley Palace. Question any of them you called them?
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  Said no, I don't want to come answer no question okay.
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  And you don't know how old the youngest was that
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  you booked a massage for. Answer no question did they
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  even sound young on the phone? Answer, I don't know.
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  Question okay, you don't know. Okay. You said you arrange
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  travel for his guests. Were any of them women that
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  you booked massages for? Answer no question Okay. During the
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  time that you worked for mister Epstein, what was your
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  understanding of his relationship with President Trump? Groff, I just
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  merely would connect mister Epstein with mister Trump gets cut
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  off by tlib by phone Groff on the phone on
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  the phone, that was it? Question Did the relationship change
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  over time? Answer? Over time? There were no more phone
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  calls to mister Trump. Question okay, was mister Trump calling
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  mister Epstein and then mister Epstein telling you I don't
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  want to talk to him? Answer? I don't recall no
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  that no question, No okay. What was your understanding of
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  why their relationship ended? Groff at the time, I did
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  not know why their relationship ended? Question okay, have you
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  ever met President Trump? Answer? No question, okay? Or has
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  President Trump ever discussed mister Epstein with you when you called? Answer?
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  No question? Okay, did mister Epstein ever discuss President Trump
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  with you at all? Answer? No question. Never mentioned, just said, hey,
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  can you get through on the phone for him? Answer
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  correct question. It was just like get them on the
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  phone for me. Answer correct question. Was it a number
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  of times per day? Was it more than one year?
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  Then the other? Answer? No question? Okay, answer it was
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  sporadic every so often? Question every week, every month? Question
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  I wouldn't say, no question every month Groff answer maybe
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  once a quarter. I don't know. To Lib, you don't know, Grof,
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  I don't know to Lib. Did mister Epstein ever discuss
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  President Trump with you? Answer? No question? Okay? Did Maxwell
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  ever have access to any of mister Epstein's bank accounts
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  or any financial accounts? Graf? I don't know. Question did
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  miss Maxwell ask you to arrange travel for any of
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  his guests? Answer? I don't know. Question for any young women?
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  Answer no question? Okay? Could you please describe any accounts
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  that miss Maxwell had access to? Miss Groff, I don't
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  know what accounts she had access to? Question any financial accounts?
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  Answer I don't know. Question okay? Would anything involve visas
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  that you had to deal with like applying for visas
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  for travel? Groff? The only visas that I helped apply
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  for were mister Epstein's twice, once for Russia, once for Japan.
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  Sure about that? Answer yes, question you're positive? Answer I
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  never applied for a visa for anyone else? Answer or question?
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  And you never arranged any travel for any of his
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  other guests? Answer? While I arrange travel for his guests? Question,
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  and that was all domestic travel? Graf. No question. Did
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  you ever have to apply for visas for any of
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  his guests? Answer? I did not apply for visas. Question
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  What I mean by that is you submitted the documents
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  or you gave the documents to the guests and have
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  them like, tell them you have to do this or
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  whatever to get the visa. No, Graff, no, never question
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  to come to the United States. Groff, correct, I never
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  supplied anyone with visa documents to fill out. Question when
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  all of this obviously slowly came out, have you seen
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  photos and images and testimony from some of the survivors
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  of Epstein? Graf, I've seen some of it. Question did
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  you recognize any of them? This is my last question?
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  Did you recognize any of them? Groff? Yes, yes, mister Gross, yes,
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  mister lead. Did you any of the women? Did you
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  have to arrange massages for him with them? Witcomb? Just
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  objection of form, she said, one woman she recognized, so far.
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  Question one woman, answer by Witcomb, Sarah Kellen. Question did
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  you arrange did she arrange massages? Did you arrange massages
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  for him mister Epstein with her? Groff no question, Okay,
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  that's it, Thank you, all right, folks, we're going to
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  wrap up right here, and in the next episode, we're
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  going to pick up where we left off. All the
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