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How does this battle compare with those of 1991, 2001 and 2003? · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 1: at joined by Senator Tom Cotton. Senator Cotton and Chairman
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Speaker 1: of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Chairman of the Republican Conference,
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Speaker 1: and the Senate member of the Armed Services Committee, Senator.
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Speaker 1: In my adult life, four times I've seen the American
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Speaker 1: military operate at peak lethality one hundred Hour War in
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, the Fall of Cobble with the Northern
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Speaker 1: Alliance in two thousand and one, the March to Baghdad
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, and the last three weeks.
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Speaker 1: How do you rate the last three weeks in terms
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Speaker 1: of American military prowess?
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Speaker 2: Well, Hugh, with respect to those other three operations that
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Speaker 2: put this at number one, some of that is just
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Speaker 2: the march of technology and the abilities that are military
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Speaker 2: and our intelligence agencies have today that they did not
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Speaker 2: have in nineteen ninety one, in two thousand and one
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Speaker 2: and two thousand and three, all of course are impressive operations,
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Speaker 2: but at this point in a run, we have decimated
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Speaker 2: the leadership, We've oulverized their army, We've sunk their navy,
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Speaker 2: and we are steadily but assuredly degrading all of their
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Speaker 2: missile forces, their drones, their manufacturing capability to replace those things.
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Speaker 2: And it's all as far as I know, and last
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Speaker 2: I've spoken with senior leaders in the administration at least
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Speaker 2: on time. It's not a head of schedule.
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Speaker 1: Now you're in the Gang of eight, so you are
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Speaker 1: adjacent to the chain of command as close as anyone
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Speaker 1: not in it can be. If you knew the President
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Speaker 1: was talking to you wouldn't tell us. But do you
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Speaker 1: think there's a serious command and control problem in Iran
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Speaker 1: that precludes someone speaking on behalf of the entire regime.
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Speaker 2: Frankly, I'm not sure anyone knows who's in charge in
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Speaker 2: Iran right now. The Supreme Leader and most of his
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Speaker 2: key lieutenants were killed on the first day of the war.
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Speaker 2: His son, who was widely believed to be incompetent, was
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Speaker 2: at a minimum severely injured, and to my knowledge still
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Speaker 2: hasn't appeared or been heard of outside of a enhancement
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Speaker 2: since then. Iran, of course, after the strikes last June
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Speaker 2: and Operation Minna Hammer, also adopted what has been called
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Speaker 2: the Mosaic Defense strategy, essentially decentralizing a lot of command
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Speaker 2: and control decisions down to regional and local commanders, mostly
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Speaker 2: in the IRGC. So I'm not sure that we have
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Speaker 2: a clear picture that there's a clear picture inside of
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Speaker 2: Iran of who's saying, you know, you know, shoot dismissial there,
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Speaker 2: or send this drone there, or let's reach out to
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Speaker 2: the Americans here.
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Speaker 3: I think the text have put it.
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Speaker 2: You know, they can't command and control, they can barely
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Speaker 2: even communicate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do you think message was received by Europe
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Speaker 1: When the regime sent long range ballistic missiles toward Diego Garcia.
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Speaker 1: They missed, one was intercepted, one didn't get there. But
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Speaker 1: that ought to put London and Parison notice. But it
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Speaker 1: doesn't appear to have had that effect.
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Speaker 2: Well it should, Hugh, I've been pointing out for months
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Speaker 2: now that Iran can already range Diego Garcia and many
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Speaker 2: of our bases in Central or eastern Europe, and now
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Speaker 2: it's clear they can range all of Europe, and Hugh,
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Speaker 2: I had a conversation last week with CIA Director John
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Speaker 2: Ratcliffe about their ability to target for the United States.
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Speaker 2: It only takes two basic technologies to have an intertatinmental missile.
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Speaker 2: One is the thrust to get the thing into space.
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Speaker 2: Aron has that under their so called space launch program,
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Speaker 2: which is really a slimsy cover for an intertapinmental missile.
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Speaker 2: The second is a reentry vehicle to get the thing
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Speaker 2: back from ounerspace, and they already have that with the
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Speaker 2: medium range holistic missiles have been firing at Israel, so
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Speaker 2: they could crudely but in a functioning fashion, marry those
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Speaker 2: two things together and be able to target the United
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Speaker 2: States if left unchecked, probably in a matter of months,
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Speaker 2: certainly not years. Months not years for you. And I
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Speaker 2: think the missile, the intermediate range missile that was filed
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Speaker 2: at the Eagle Recier over the weekend is just an
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Speaker 2: exclamation point on that conversation that I had with Director
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Speaker 2: act With last week at our annual public hearing of
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Speaker 2: the Intelligence Committee.
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Speaker 1: Now Senator Cotton, the military depending on is asked for
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Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars of supplemental funding. If I were
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Speaker 1: King of the Forest, not queen, not duke, not earl,
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Speaker 1: I would double that because, as the Seals like to say,
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Speaker 1: two is one and one is none, or maybe someone
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Speaker 1: else says that as well, double it. Add in whatever
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Speaker 1: it takes to keep DHS open for two and a
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Speaker 1: half years and pass it through reconciliation in a week.
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Speaker 1: Why aren't we doing that.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that request is official yet. I've seen
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Speaker 2: those media reports as well, but I'll wait until Sectary
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Speaker 2: XF and Sherman Kane actually make an official request. There's
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Speaker 2: probably still some analysis of what they think they're going
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Speaker 2: to need going forward based on how long the war's
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Speaker 2: going to last. But I think the bottom line is
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Speaker 2: we should do what you know, make sure the military
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Speaker 2: gets whatever it needs to replenish all of our stockpiles
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Speaker 2: when this war has ended, and to continue to minimize
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Speaker 2: all threats from a run. And you're make a good
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Speaker 2: point as well about funding for homeland security. The Democrats
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Speaker 2: continue to blockade that funding. That's why you see long
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Speaker 2: lines at the airports. We've got a coast guard shut.
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Speaker 3: Down, and.
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Speaker 2: We are steadily draining resources from immigration enforcement as well,
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Speaker 2: so we might have to use reconciliation that that track
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Speaker 2: budget procedure to fund the Department of Homeland Security too.
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Speaker 1: Do you think they're losing that debate in public? They're
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Speaker 1: attempting to make that a Republican problem when I think
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Speaker 1: everybody and their brother knows the Democrats shut down DHS
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Speaker 1: and therefore the lines at the airport are Democrat lines.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question with that.
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Speaker 1: You.
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Speaker 2: We've made multiple efforts to fund the Department of Homeland Security,
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Speaker 2: even on a short term basis, to allow negotiations continue,
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Speaker 2: and the Democrats would rather you miss your flight than
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Speaker 2: the port illegal aliens. It's a simple event.
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Speaker 1: Let me close by asking you about the President. The
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Speaker 1: thing that's on ambiguous as Sentcom continues to strike Iran tonight,
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Speaker 1: and they've been doing so all day long, as has
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Speaker 1: been the idea. But the President announced he wasn't going
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Speaker 1: to take out the large energy production plant that he
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Speaker 1: had threatened to do. How do you read what he's
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Speaker 1: saying and doing?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the President from the beginning has not
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Speaker 2: wanted to see massive damage to energy infrastructure, not just
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Speaker 2: with our allies, but inside Iran as well, because Iran's
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Speaker 2: energy infrastructure could be critical to the future of Iran
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Speaker 2: if you see regime collapse and you see that people
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Speaker 2: rise up and replaying their own destiny. Of course, we
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Speaker 2: want to protect all the infrastructure in the Middle East
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Speaker 2: because it's important for global prosperity, of the of which
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Speaker 2: the American economy is important part. I think at several
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Speaker 2: points the President has signaled that we're not going to
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Speaker 2: intentionally target for severe destruction the energy infrastructure of Iran.
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Speaker 2: Now he keeps that card and is at pocket.
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Speaker 3: But for instance, the.
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Speaker 2: Strikes on carg Island a couple of weekends ago only
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Speaker 2: targeted the military installations on card Island, not the crown
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Speaker 2: jewel of Iran's oil industry.
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Speaker 1: And last question, Senator, if the Strait of Horror Moves
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Speaker 1: remains quote closed because of the threat of damage done
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Speaker 1: by Iran, is it possible to reopen that in rather
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Speaker 1: efficient fashion or is that a major undertaking? No?
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Speaker 2: You, of course our military can reopen the Straight of
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Speaker 2: hor Moves. Look, it was foolish for liberals say like, oh,
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Speaker 2: this caught us by surprise. I think since the Portuguese
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Speaker 2: first sell through there more than five hundred years ago,
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Speaker 2: everyone has known the Straight of hor Moves is a
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Speaker 2: strategic waterway, and certainly when a fifth of the world's
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Speaker 2: daily oil production flows through it. We also knew that
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Speaker 2: I Run because of geography and little more had the
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Speaker 2: ability to temporarily close the straight up for Moves. The
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Speaker 2: safe Passage the United States has the ability to permanently
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Speaker 2: open the Straight of for Moves. Who and you and
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Speaker 2: a lot of what you've seen in the last few
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Speaker 2: days is that as we've eliminated the Runs air defenses
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Speaker 2: and their long range strike capabilities, we're able to focus
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Speaker 2: more on the short range weapons that are on uses
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Speaker 2: to threaten the Straight. For instance, we've now got Cobra
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Speaker 2: gunships and a ten warthogs in the fight. Those are
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Speaker 2: close in close aviation aircraft. They're designed to hit the
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Speaker 2: fast attack craft that Iron has or some of their
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Speaker 2: coastal defenses. So we knew that Iron had the power
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Speaker 2: to close the Straight temporarily, we have the ability to
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Speaker 2: open it permanently well.
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Speaker 1: Sad as usual Center of Tom Cotton from Arkansas, thank
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Speaker 1: you for joining me. Don't go anywhere, America. I will
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Speaker 1: be right back. I'm thank you Hewitt. I'm Hugh Hewitt.
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Speaker 1: Good Monday to you. I'm joined by Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery,
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Speaker 1: retired United States Navy. You may have read his peach
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Speaker 1: in the New York Times last week, the piece heard
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Speaker 1: round the world. Good to have you back, Admiral. Before
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Speaker 1: we get into the specifics of what's going on today,
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Speaker 1: a little comparative military history. I remember as a journalist
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Speaker 1: the one hundred Hour War in nineteen ninety one against
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Speaker 1: the am the two thousand and one Cobble and Condo
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Speaker 1: Art campaign. The Manes did some pretty interesting things in
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Speaker 1: that campaign that were detailed and call signed chaos by
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Speaker 1: Jim Mattis. I'm not expecting them to go to Carrig Island,
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Speaker 1: but they can do a lot of interesting things. The
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Speaker 1: two thousand and three March to Baghdad and then now
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Speaker 1: the last twenty four days of those four campaigns, which
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Speaker 1: has been the most impressive display of lethality that you think.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think the two thousand and three March to
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Speaker 4: Baghdad was you know, you know, we basically had an
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Speaker 4: arm you know, an army in the field with two
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Speaker 4: corps commanded by an army commander.
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Speaker 1: You know that.
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Speaker 4: Maneuvered aggressively rapidly fully integrated with air power. To me,
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Speaker 4: that's I mean, that's the most impressive modern military maneuver warfare.
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Speaker 3: That's that's what the Russians could have only dreamed of in.
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Speaker 4: February of twenty twenty two, and the US Army and
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Speaker 4: US Marine Corps Executor did so.
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Speaker 1: If you added the technology on display today to that
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Speaker 1: kind of maneuverability and operability between Marine Corps and Army,
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Speaker 1: how destructive is the American military? And what message are
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Speaker 1: our adversary is getting around the club?
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Speaker 4: You know, I think one of the important things here
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Speaker 4: is like, you know, I spend a lot of time
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Speaker 4: in Ukraine a time in Taiwan, and I keep being
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Speaker 4: told by people with Bani that the people in Taiwan
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Speaker 4: have to understand everything we're learning in Ukraine.
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Speaker 3: It's a new way of war fighting.
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Speaker 4: And what I say is you're fifty percent correct. You know,
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Speaker 4: Taiwan will be like a Ukraine fight. It's fed heading
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Speaker 4: you know, west towards the Chinese, mainly thousands of ships
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Speaker 4: and aircraft trying to cross thousands of UAV's going to
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Speaker 4: have low cost munitions.
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Speaker 3: But east of Taiwan is a high end war fight.
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Speaker 4: Between the PLA Navy and Air Force and the US
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Speaker 4: Navy and Air Force. That's what we saw us execute
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Speaker 4: superbly over the last three weeks, you know, alongside the Israelis.
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Speaker 4: It's a reminder that despite what Elon Musk says, the
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Speaker 4: F thirty five is not a dinosaur. It's in fact
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Speaker 4: the lead predator in the skies and has done.
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Speaker 3: A fantastic job.
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Speaker 4: And it clears the skies to such a degree that
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Speaker 4: we can bring in seventy year old war horses like
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Speaker 4: B fifty twos and B twos and b ones IZB
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Speaker 4: two could operate on its own there, but you know,
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Speaker 4: b Ones.
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Speaker 3: So our air power was demonstrated again.
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Speaker 4: You know, this is not you know, you know, we
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Speaker 4: have had, you know, a not quite monopoly, but near
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Speaker 4: monopoly on the ability to project airpower like this. And
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Speaker 4: I'd say, if there's one country that's close to us
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Speaker 4: right now, it's Israel, our partner in this combined air campaign.
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Speaker 4: So I'm pretty comfortable. And I think this was one
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Speaker 4: of the secret things in the last three and a
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Speaker 4: half weeks is the Chinese looking at this and going,
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Speaker 4: you know, kind of clearing our throat and going, well,
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Speaker 4: let's hope the United States doesn't get involved in anything
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Speaker 4: we're doing.
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Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about Ukraine. Last night they blew up
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Speaker 1: liquid natural gas. I think port I think that's what
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Speaker 1: they did, way the freaking way away from where the
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Speaker 1: front line was. What kind of capabilities have our quasi
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Speaker 1: allies developed there?
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Speaker 4: So our modo ally Ukraine they made all the terms
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Speaker 4: of the model ALI that we apply to Israel. They
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Speaker 4: spend more, you know, they spend forty percent a year
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Speaker 4: thirty percent of their GDP on defense. They fight authoritarian regimes,
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Speaker 4: and then when we ask for help they give it
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Speaker 4: to us in the former category basis our model.
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Speaker 3: Ally.
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Speaker 4: Ukraine has demonstrated that it now has long range strike,
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Speaker 4: you know they've done. This is different than the Operation
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Speaker 4: Spider Web, where they drove, you know, surreptitiously got UAVs
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Speaker 4: into near airfields, took off from the top of trucks,
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Speaker 4: instruct things. These are now they are using persistently every
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Speaker 4: few days long range strike. And what's happening is they've
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Speaker 4: worn down the Russian localized air defenses and they've extended
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Speaker 4: the range so much that the Russians have spread so
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Speaker 4: thin that they finally find rich targets that are unprotected
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Speaker 4: or effectively unprotected and overwhel than with five or six.
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Speaker 4: They may be low ordinance, some of them in you
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Speaker 4: know the weapons. They also, by the way, have a
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Speaker 4: very heavy weapon, the Pelican that you know, it's something
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Speaker 4: that goes about, you know, twelve hundred miles if there
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Speaker 4: was a twenty five hundred pound warhead. But most of
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Speaker 4: their stuffs this low cost stuff. So yes, they are
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Speaker 4: now a long range strike military. And you know, I
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Speaker 4: was against giving them tomahawks for various reasons, but the
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Speaker 4: truth is they developed their own Tomahawk like capability.
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Speaker 1: Well, this brings me the next question. Zolenski's given everything
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Speaker 1: to the Golf states, and he said, how can we help.
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Speaker 1: Here's some advisors, here's our munition. Do you think we
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Speaker 1: are noticing that in the Congress, because there was a
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Speaker 1: period if everyone was for Ukraine at the start, then
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Speaker 1: it kind of fell off. And now I'm saying that's
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Speaker 1: you're right, it's a model. Ally the front line states
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Speaker 1: like Poland and Finland, they know what they're up against
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Speaker 1: and Ukraine and Israel, and they can fight.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: Thanks.
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Speaker 4: I've been in Lithuania the last few days and Buget
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Speaker 4: area before that, and I was talking to these countries
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Speaker 4: and they see Ukraine as the model ally to the
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Speaker 4: United States.
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Speaker 3: They understand what.
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Speaker 4: They've done, but look sending these counter UAS systems is critical.
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Speaker 4: Defending against drones, against these kind of longer range drones
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Speaker 4: is a two step solution. One is an airborne capacity
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Speaker 4: with an advanced precision killed weapon system, which and I
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Speaker 4: have talked about before. Ukraine has have on F sixteen's.
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Speaker 4: We have an F fifteen, F sixteen and F eighteen allar,
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Speaker 4: all those fighters we have that We're doing good with that.
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Speaker 4: But the second part of it, the part we don't
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Speaker 4: have and our Arab allies don't have, is the point
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Speaker 4: defense around a radar, an air base, an OP center,
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Speaker 4: a power station, a desalinization plan. They all need these
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Speaker 4: counter UAS systems that are costing area from three to
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Speaker 4: fifteen thousand dollars. They have crazy names like Spear and
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Speaker 4: Spire and Octopus and mirror ops whatever they are. They
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Speaker 4: have about a seventy to ninety percent likelihood of destroying
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Speaker 4: a shah head drone when approaching.
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Speaker 3: We need those point defense systems there.
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Speaker 4: And they have provided two hundred plus people and I'm
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Speaker 4: understanding thousands of these systems already to get our air
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Speaker 4: partners jump started.
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping we're using them on our military basis. I
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Speaker 3: don't know that for a fact.
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Speaker 4: Sadly, they offered him to us last June and we
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Speaker 4: passed on it.
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Speaker 3: Probably we ought to go back.
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Speaker 4: And revisit that decision making, make sure we don't make
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Speaker 4: that kind of mistake, Agave.
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Speaker 1: Now, I also read today open source that Palunteer and
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Speaker 1: a couple of other AI companies assisted in the targeting
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Speaker 1: plan for either of the idea for the American military
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Speaker 1: and that it's been just eloquently precise. Have you been
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Speaker 1: following that in an open source and your friends that
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Speaker 1: you talked to about how very very precise the American
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Speaker 1: and Israeli strikes have been on the command and control
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Speaker 1: systems of the IRGC.
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Speaker 3: I have.
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Speaker 4: And it's a question of precision plus volume. It's so
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Speaker 4: many strikes each day with precision, I mean Polunteer, other
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Speaker 4: contractors provided they almost all loaded with Anthropic as their
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Speaker 4: AI tool, with probably something sexually he sets to quietly
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Speaker 4: think about after the conflict's over. But the you know, yes,
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Speaker 4: we're doing very well on planning our speed of planning,
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Speaker 4: our ability to digest information, and what's going to be
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Speaker 4: interesting is finding out the precision the effectiveness of our reattack.
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Speaker 4: That's when you really need good planning, when you realize
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Speaker 4: I didn't quite get it right or I was you know,
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Speaker 4: they have a secondary tertiary supply chain to this or depot.
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Speaker 4: Going to find that and attacking that when you can
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Speaker 4: do that with PETE with pace and speed, you know,
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Speaker 4: in the ninety six hour planning cycle. To me, when
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Speaker 4: we hear that that's happened as well, which I think
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Speaker 4: we will, then we'll really know we've gone to the
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Speaker 4: next ash on Again. I refer back to China should
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Speaker 4: start getting nervous. They're thinking about it. We're doing admal.
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Speaker 4: Do you think the regime in Iran is going to crumble?
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Speaker 4: From everything that you've seen. The President's given them a
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Speaker 4: reprieve on their energy infrastructure, but we're not slacking off
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Speaker 4: on the strikes tonight, you know, after midnight before one
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Speaker 4: in Tehran right now and the strikes are going on.
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Speaker 4: Do you think that regime can crumble? I think that
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Speaker 4: you know, you know, there's an old Air Force planner
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Speaker 4: named John Warden who kind of like thought about how
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Speaker 4: you do attacks on critical infrastructures. To do a strategic
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Speaker 4: campaign that breaks a country like this, I don't know
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Speaker 4: that we've successfully done it since he first envisioned that
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Speaker 4: in the nineteen sixties. But we're I think another week
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Speaker 4: of this is which is what you know. If you
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Speaker 4: go to Admiral Cooper and General Kine, they have never
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Speaker 4: not said four to five weeks. You know, they need
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Speaker 4: four to five weeks. Let them have their time. See
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Speaker 4: what happens. We and the Israelis are hitting them hard,
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Speaker 4: and we are removing a lot. There's particular, will be
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Speaker 4: a lot of the IRGC's not just their secret leadership,
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Speaker 4: but the ligature and the facilities that keep their the
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Speaker 4: ERGGC functional. We'll have to see the results. Given again,
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Speaker 4: give it another week. I'm glad the President took a
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Speaker 4: pass on the critical induction for now and like a
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Speaker 4: five day hiatus. In the meantime, hammer everything else, Hammer
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Speaker 4: the stuff on your.
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Speaker 1: Plan, Ambassador or in Fretz that the President will call
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Speaker 1: off the Israeli attack on Hesblah. I don't think that
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Speaker 1: makes strategic sense. If we come to an agreement with
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Speaker 1: the remnants of the regime. What do you think about
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Speaker 1: the Hesbala Front?
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Speaker 3: Admiral Absolutely, we should allow Israel to.
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Speaker 4: Continue to create the conditions for the last the Lebanese
18:31
Speaker 4: armed forces in the Lebanese government to succeed, and that
18:33
Speaker 4: means destroying Hasbelow. Destroying Hesbela is as important for Lebanon
18:40
Speaker 4: as it is for Israel. The president does does no
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Speaker 4: one any favors if he if he pushes is calling
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Speaker 4: off the attacks on let on the Lebanese has Below.
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Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I appreciate your joining me.
18:53
Speaker 1: I know you travel more than anybody I know, and
18:56
Speaker 1: I don't know what time it is in your body,
18:58
Speaker 1: but I always appreciate your making time for us. Thank you,
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Speaker 1: Admiral Mark Montgomery. Follow him on exit Mark C. Montgomery
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Speaker 1: and read wherever people are taking serious writing and putting
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Speaker 1: it into their newspapers and their platforms. I'll be right
19:11
Speaker 1: back America. Bethany Mandel is next on the Huge Jewits
19:13
Speaker 1: Ship Mack America. I'm Hugh Hewett. It was a very
19:16
Speaker 1: difficult weekend in Israel. So my next guest doctor Michael Warren,
19:20
Speaker 1: former Israeli Ambassador to the United States, former Deputy Minister
19:24
Speaker 1: in a previous net Yahoo government is a regular guest
19:27
Speaker 1: on the program. He's the founder of the Israel Advocacy Group.
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Speaker 1: I just thought I'd give him the floor to tell
19:32
Speaker 1: us about everything. How are you, doctor, take it away.
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Speaker 3: We're good, We're good, We're hanging tough.
19:40
Speaker 1: I thought.
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Speaker 5: I thought about this moment because, as you know here,
19:43
Speaker 5: before I was ambassadory, before I was in KISSEI I
19:46
Speaker 5: was a historian, the military historian. And I want to
19:49
Speaker 5: say auto quickly that I can think of just almost
19:51
Speaker 5: no example in certainly in modern history, perhaps in all
19:54
Speaker 5: of history, with the one exception of that year nineteen
19:58
Speaker 5: forty where Churchill battled long undering the Battle of Britain
20:02
Speaker 5: during its darkest hour, where all of history were regional peace,
20:06
Speaker 5: certainly in the the least, but even world peace hinges
20:09
Speaker 5: on one man, hinges on one person, that is the
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Speaker 5: President of the United States. And if that president stays
20:16
Speaker 5: the course and stands up on the face of tremendous
20:19
Speaker 5: pressures and believe me, in is or we know the
20:21
Speaker 5: pressures he's under, then everything in this region can change.
20:25
Speaker 5: We're not talking just about the peace between Israel and Lebanon,
20:28
Speaker 5: piece in Israel and Syria, but a strategic arc that
20:32
Speaker 5: extends from the Mediterranean to the shores of the Ganges
20:36
Speaker 5: under a Pax Americana, where Russia will be humbled and
20:39
Speaker 5: China will be humbled and everything, everything can change. This
20:44
Speaker 5: is one of these extraordinary hinges of his history where
20:47
Speaker 5: it can go in two directions, when we arguently are
20:50
Speaker 5: the hope that will go in this direction. Tonight, the
20:53
Speaker 5: President has talked about the negotiation with the Iranians, and
20:57
Speaker 5: I'd be remiss and not saying that there's not a
21:00
Speaker 5: certain amount of nervousness in this country. We've gone through
21:03
Speaker 5: an extraordinarily difficult month. We've all been under fire, including
21:06
Speaker 5: my family and everyone's families.
21:09
Speaker 1: And we hope that during.
21:11
Speaker 5: These negotiations, as President Trump indicated tonight, that our fundamental
21:15
Speaker 5: interest will be addressed, which is the end of the
21:18
Speaker 5: Iranian nuclear threat, at the end of the Iranian ballistic threat,
21:21
Speaker 5: and the end of Iranian support for terrorist groups who
21:24
Speaker 5: are seeking to destroy us. And we hope also that
21:26
Speaker 5: our army can continue to battle his bullet in the north,
21:29
Speaker 5: because frankly, if his bullet is not beaten back, then
21:33
Speaker 5: we will lose the Galilee. We will lose half this country.
21:35
Speaker 5: People simply will not go and live there. So it's
21:37
Speaker 5: close to an existential threat for this country. So it's
21:40
Speaker 5: just it's this extraordinary moment. I really don't know any
21:44
Speaker 5: like it, Hugh, maybe you do, other than that one
21:47
Speaker 5: year you know of Churchill's darkest hour. We're everything dependent,
21:52
Speaker 5: and everything dependent on one person and his strength, his vision,
21:57
Speaker 5: his character, and we arguably hope that the direction will
22:02
Speaker 5: turn to the direction of regional world peace.
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Speaker 1: Doctor. And that's a very interesting observation because this is
22:10
Speaker 1: a pivot point for the world, and if Iran can
22:13
Speaker 1: be brought to heel and turned into even a quasi
22:16
Speaker 1: normal country, all sorts of vistas open up for not
22:20
Speaker 1: packs Americana, but a second American century with its ally.
22:23
Speaker 1: It's closest allies now Israel, and I doubt that anyone
22:26
Speaker 1: would argue with that. And Europe is old and exhausted.
22:28
Speaker 1: I'm just very disappointed with Europe. I am curious if
22:32
Speaker 1: people in Israel are alarmed by the presidents very ambiguous.
22:36
Speaker 1: I think he's just playing the Iranians against each other.
22:39
Speaker 1: What do you think.
22:42
Speaker 3: One can't know?
22:43
Speaker 5: One can only hope wants to couch. Many things when
22:46
Speaker 5: dealing with the President in terms of hope, and the
22:49
Speaker 5: good news is that the vast majority of our hopes
22:52
Speaker 5: have played out. Visa to be the president and recognizing
22:55
Speaker 5: Jerusalems are capital, recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the goal on heights.
22:59
Speaker 3: The ap hammocre is.
23:00
Speaker 5: That there's one hope after another that has been realized
23:03
Speaker 5: by the President getting our hostages back from Gauza.
23:06
Speaker 1: How about that one? And we hope now.
23:08
Speaker 5: Again that in negotiating with whomever he is negotiating, it's
23:13
Speaker 5: not quite clear with whom he's negotiating that that person
23:17
Speaker 5: will have the authority, will have the plenty of potentiary
23:20
Speaker 5: ability to actually make those decisions. Now, I've got to
23:23
Speaker 5: be skeptical because I come from a background of Middle
23:25
Speaker 5: Eastern history, and to have Iran give up its nuclear program,
23:29
Speaker 5: to have it give up his ballistic program and support
23:31
Speaker 5: for terrorists is telling the Irani regime to get up
23:34
Speaker 5: its DNA. It's not gonna be the same regime anymore.
23:36
Speaker 5: It's not completely completely different. Is that about to happen again?
23:41
Speaker 5: I'll couch it as a hope, but I can't say
23:43
Speaker 5: with any certainty that that is likely to happen. Will
23:47
Speaker 5: the Iranians turn around, And this is actually an interesting
23:50
Speaker 5: question that's been raised several times in my media interviews
23:53
Speaker 5: with Israeli media tonight, is will the Iranians say to
23:56
Speaker 5: the President, Okay, we'll have a ceasefire. You've got to
23:59
Speaker 5: call these reelis off our boys in Lebanon, off of
24:02
Speaker 5: his bulah, And that would be a very difficult call
24:05
Speaker 5: for the Prime Minister to make. The Primission may have
24:07
Speaker 5: to turn around to say of the President, I'm sorry,
24:09
Speaker 5: I can't do that. We have half the country displays tonight, and.
24:15
Speaker 6: The Iranians may say, well, okay.
24:16
Speaker 5: In that case, we're going to keep hormoes closed and
24:19
Speaker 5: the gas prices are going to go up. So many
24:21
Speaker 5: many moving pieces here and tremendous amount of uncertainty in
24:25
Speaker 5: the state of Israel. One thing is certain is that
24:27
Speaker 5: our pilots continue to fly fight tonight. They're flying over
24:30
Speaker 5: Iran as we speak, and our forces are on the
24:33
Speaker 5: ground in Lebanon fighting back his bula.
24:36
Speaker 1: And American pilots are in the air. Sencom released a
24:41
Speaker 1: video of them hitting striking Iranian targets earlier today. Dan
24:46
Speaker 1: Senor has said the only time he can remember working
24:49
Speaker 1: relationship between two heads of government as close as Nenyahoo
24:53
Speaker 1: and Trump is, as between Margaret Thatcher and President Reagan,
24:57
Speaker 1: to which I'd like that. As unlikely as it might say,
25:00
Speaker 1: there was Helmet Cole and Francois mitterand as well as
25:03
Speaker 1: you remember during the last years of the Cold War,
25:06
Speaker 1: I think that might turn out to be MBS and MBZ.
25:09
Speaker 1: Odd as that might be, I think those four are
25:11
Speaker 1: the key players.
25:12
Speaker 5: Here, Roosevelt in Churchill, not to belabel the Churchill you
25:17
Speaker 5: know example, and certainly and today I think we can
25:21
Speaker 5: say this on equivocally with the United States has won
25:23
Speaker 5: exactly one dependable military ally in the world, and I'm
25:27
Speaker 5: sitting in it, and not just a pendel military oust,
25:31
Speaker 5: but dependent military alily that is willing to go shoulder
25:33
Speaker 5: to shoulder with the United States and not you know,
25:37
Speaker 5: play a secondary role, to be a full partner.
25:40
Speaker 1: So that that to me is.
25:41
Speaker 3: An extraordinary accomplishment.
25:43
Speaker 5: And I don't think anybody responsible in Washington would would
25:46
Speaker 5: somehow want to squander that extraordinary asset.
25:50
Speaker 1: Well, I'll be time with Centaer Cotton next gener I'll
25:52
Speaker 1: ask him about that. But I got it. I got
25:54
Speaker 1: one minute left doctor, and the interoperability of the IDF
25:58
Speaker 1: and the America in Navy, the pilot, it's just extraordinary
26:02
Speaker 1: to me. We've never operated like this in my lifetime
26:04
Speaker 1: because I went around for World War Two. There are
26:06
Speaker 1: simply there's no division between their division of labor. It's
26:13
Speaker 1: lockstep is.
26:15
Speaker 5: Unfortunately it's a war, but otherwise it's a beautiful thing
26:17
Speaker 5: to see. And if you listen to some of the
26:20
Speaker 5: communication between our palets and the American Palace, you see
26:23
Speaker 5: that we are allies in the fullest sense of the
26:25
Speaker 5: word here and it is I think it's a message
26:29
Speaker 5: to the entire world, a cautionary talk.
26:32
Speaker 6: I think caution tail for Europe.
26:34
Speaker 5: I think there's going to be a lot to answer
26:36
Speaker 5: for with Europe and NATO when this is over.
26:38
Speaker 1: I agree with that, doctor Michael Orran. Follow him on
26:41
Speaker 1: exit d R Michael Oran, go look up the Israel
26:45
Speaker 1: Advocacy Group which he founded, be a part of helping
26:48
Speaker 1: to tell the story of the Jewish shape. And thank
26:50
Speaker 1: you very much, doctor, and stay safe. I know it
26:52
Speaker 1: is a rough weekend and my condolences to those in
26:54
Speaker 1: Israel who are listening who lost someone this weekend. Don't
26:57
Speaker 1: go anywhere America. I'm usually welcome back in America. I'm
27:00
Speaker 1: Hugh Hewett, joined by Selena Zito. Columnists of the World,
27:04
Speaker 1: Washington Post columnst Washington Examiner columnist, columnist, The Pittsburgh Post Gazette,
27:09
Speaker 1: New York Post, syndicated columnist, I go On and yinzer
27:13
Speaker 1: Uh Selena. Airports are in the news now. Pittsburgh Airport
27:17
Speaker 1: happens to be my most favorite and least favorite airport.
27:21
Speaker 1: It is my most favorite airport because the car rental,
27:24
Speaker 1: which I've got to get to get to Warren is
27:26
Speaker 1: right across the entrance. It's very it's a very convenient
27:30
Speaker 1: car rental. The bad part is I had to go
27:32
Speaker 1: by frank O Harris every time I get there to
27:35
Speaker 1: go to it. So how are the lines at Pittsburgh Airport?
27:41
Speaker 7: Well, since the last time I flew was in twenty
27:44
Speaker 7: twenty film. I mean, that's true, but you know they're
27:49
Speaker 7: they're not I don't think as bad as everyone else
27:52
Speaker 7: is experiencing, but they're not bad because of a bad reason.
27:57
Speaker 8: For Pittsburgh. We don't have a hub, so we are not.
28:02
Speaker 7: A frequently traveled airport as much as these other airports are. Nonetheless,
28:09
Speaker 7: people have to get out and people have to come in.
28:11
Speaker 8: It is definitely a.
28:15
Speaker 9: Higher ice is supposed to come to Ellegany County's airport
28:22
Speaker 9: this week, and so it must be bad enough to
28:25
Speaker 9: be a problem.
28:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need an editor. You always have enough columns, right.
28:30
Speaker 1: I would love a Selena Zito piece of just talking
28:33
Speaker 1: to people in line at Pittsburgh because the ensurs don't
28:37
Speaker 1: like nonsense, right, They just don't like nonsense. This is nonsense.
28:41
Speaker 1: The Democrats are putting millions of Americans in peril of
28:45
Speaker 1: missing their flights. All of that inconvenience. My kids and
28:49
Speaker 1: my grandkids had to leave at four o'clock in the
28:51
Speaker 1: morning on Sunday morning to get to the airport three
28:54
Speaker 1: hours early to make sure that they can make their flight.
28:57
Speaker 1: It's crazy what they are doing to people. For I
29:01
Speaker 1: don't really understand their motive. They're not making a point.
29:05
Speaker 1: Do you think they're making a point.
29:07
Speaker 8: No, I mean I.
29:08
Speaker 7: Have talked to people, not at the airport, but I
29:11
Speaker 7: have talked to people, and they're not making the point
29:15
Speaker 7: they think.
29:15
Speaker 8: They're making, which is this is Trump's well right.
29:19
Speaker 7: They don't even want to blame Republicans in office inasmuch
29:23
Speaker 7: as their whole focus and concentration is on President Trump,
29:28
Speaker 7: and so they want to blame it on him. However,
29:31
Speaker 7: that's not sticking. People have common sense. They have the
29:35
Speaker 7: ability to read and understand and comprehend what really is
29:39
Speaker 7: the problem. And you know a lot of people that
29:44
Speaker 7: I've talked to have said, I don't get it. Ice
29:47
Speaker 7: is already funded. Why are we in this position?
29:50
Speaker 4: Again?
29:51
Speaker 7: It doesn't make Why Why are you? Why are what
29:54
Speaker 7: do we do? Why are we in trouble? Why are
29:56
Speaker 7: we getting punished?
29:57
Speaker 5: Right?
29:57
Speaker 1: Why are we getting group punishment of country because the
30:00
Speaker 1: Democrats lost an election? Now let me turn to your
30:03
Speaker 1: Senator John Fetterman over the weekend had a conversation with
30:06
Speaker 1: a Rock rib Republican and he said, you know, Fetterman
30:09
Speaker 1: is making me rethink there might the Democrats might be salvagable.
30:12
Speaker 1: But then I read your column. There's a little uprising
30:16
Speaker 1: against him in Pittsburgh and in Pennsylvania generally. Is that reality?
30:20
Speaker 1: He not up for four years? Is he? Or two
30:23
Speaker 1: more years?
30:23
Speaker 7: He's not up for He's not up for two years.
30:27
Speaker 7: A lot of that is hyperbole. There is a lot
30:31
Speaker 7: of sort of ex posting going around, pushing Connor Lamb, right,
30:38
Speaker 7: the guy who lost to Fetterman. And I would love
30:42
Speaker 7: to point out that Fetterman defeated Lamb by thirty percentage
30:49
Speaker 7: points in that primary. Fetterman won all sixty seven counties.
30:55
Speaker 8: And the argument that Lamb is making that.
31:00
Speaker 7: Men is not a true Democrat Betterman votes ninety three
31:06
Speaker 7: percent of the time with Democrats, whereas Lamb voted sixty
31:11
Speaker 7: eight percent of the time with Democrats. That's another that's
31:17
Speaker 7: a thirty point almost a thirty point difference. And so
31:21
Speaker 7: I think there is a lot of posturing. But the
31:25
Speaker 7: Democrats that I talked to even they know, they know
31:29
Speaker 7: that they're sort of this online movement against betterment. It's
31:34
Speaker 7: very difficult for me to find anyone outside of the
31:38
Speaker 7: far left. And by the way, this all has to
31:40
Speaker 7: do with Israel, right, Like, let's not make any bumps
31:44
Speaker 7: about it because all has to do with Israel, and
31:48
Speaker 7: it's vulgar in the way that people are prosecuting it.
31:53
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this grand Plantner in Maine,
31:57
Speaker 1: the oysterman with the Nazi tattoo, who's a whack job
32:01
Speaker 1: from the left. He's trying to run like John Fetterman.
32:04
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's working because it's not authentic.
32:07
Speaker 1: He wants to be that kind of loose, that kind
32:10
Speaker 1: of real guy living down the street across from the
32:12
Speaker 1: steel mill. Have you followed Planter in all?
32:17
Speaker 7: No, I haven't because well, my state keeps me busy enough, right,
32:23
Speaker 7: But even from Afar.
32:25
Speaker 8: I'll end up going up to May before the primary.
32:28
Speaker 7: But even from Afar, Look, people can smell something that's
32:32
Speaker 7: not authentic.
32:33
Speaker 8: People know when you're trying to pose.
32:36
Speaker 7: There was a guy in West Virginia a few years
32:38
Speaker 7: ago that tried to run against Joe Manchin when he
32:41
Speaker 7: was running for reelection with that same sort of like
32:45
Speaker 7: I'm real and I'm you know, I'm working class, and
32:50
Speaker 7: it just didn't pan out because people can smell people
32:55
Speaker 7: that are inauthentic and are trying to create a brand
33:01
Speaker 7: as opposed to living that real life.
33:04
Speaker 1: All right, last question, I watched sixty minutes last night
33:07
Speaker 1: to see about the American shipbuilding crisis, all about the
33:11
Speaker 1: Philadelphia shipyard. Have you had a chance to see that yet?
33:15
Speaker 1: What did you think?
33:15
Speaker 8: I have not watched it, but I'm well aware of it.
33:18
Speaker 8: I have been writing about it.
33:20
Speaker 1: Twenty people at a time are going through and the
33:23
Speaker 1: three young people. One wasn't so young. But the three
33:26
Speaker 1: people that are craftsmen, they all left Amazon Warehouse and
33:29
Speaker 1: they work hard. But that place is going to be hopping.
33:33
Speaker 1: It's going to be back to what it was in
33:35
Speaker 1: World War Two if they if they carried through on there,
33:39
Speaker 1: are you going to go visit?
33:41
Speaker 4: Oh?
33:42
Speaker 3: Yeah?
33:42
Speaker 8: Absolutely? Just would stop snowing between here and there?
33:46
Speaker 1: Right, this never really ever happened, does it?
33:51
Speaker 3: Well?
33:51
Speaker 7: With snow in Somerset County? I know you've been stuck.
33:56
Speaker 1: You've been stuck in Somerset that you can't get there
34:00
Speaker 1: from here. It's a blizzard. I don't know.
34:02
Speaker 3: July.
34:04
Speaker 7: Yes, it has sowed in Somerset County in July.
34:08
Speaker 8: That's a fact.
34:10
Speaker 7: There's also shipbuilding kickabilities going on in Eerie, but.
34:15
Speaker 8: Also in Pittsburgh. They just got a huge navy.
34:20
Speaker 7: Contract right in Pittsburgh fixing our naval ships.
34:25
Speaker 10: Well, I would love to see your critique of the
34:28
Speaker 10: sixty minutes piece, which was maybe the nicest piece about
34:32
Speaker 10: President Trump ever run by CBS News, because he's doing
34:36
Speaker 10: something about our shipbuilding crisis.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined by Bethany Mandel.
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Speaker 1: She is the author of the moom Wars dot substact
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Speaker 1: dot com. Bethany, good to see you. First, just your
37:19
Speaker 1: general assessment of how the war where theyroon is going.
37:25
Speaker 12: I think it's going well. My Israeli friends are losing
37:29
Speaker 12: it a little bit. I think it's really really tough
37:32
Speaker 12: on them over there. I think, you know, from the
37:35
Speaker 12: Israelis perspective, they need to get rid of the missile capability.
37:38
Speaker 12: This is not a situation that is sustainable. There's it's
37:43
Speaker 12: been three weeks of constant missile fire at all hours
37:46
Speaker 12: of the day and night, and it's it's it's become
37:49
Speaker 12: really dire. The airspace I'm sure you talked about with
37:52
Speaker 12: Mark Montgomery is sort of under siege and and it's it's.
37:56
Speaker 6: Become so difficult to get out.
37:58
Speaker 12: I have a friend who was supposed to the day
38:00
Speaker 12: that the war started, and her new flight is scheduled
38:02
Speaker 12: for April sixteenth. So it's not a sustainable situation for
38:08
Speaker 12: a country.
38:09
Speaker 6: For a month and a half.
38:10
Speaker 1: Well, Ambassador Orren made a direct appeal to President Trump
38:14
Speaker 1: earlier today saying, don't tell us to stop in the north.
38:18
Speaker 1: Whatever you negotiate with the Iranians, if you come to
38:20
Speaker 1: some sort of agreement, don't make not killing hesbala off
38:24
Speaker 1: part of the deal, because we have to do that.
38:27
Speaker 1: Is that are your friends telling you the same thing?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, this has been a threat that has
38:35
Speaker 12: been existential for the Israelies for a long time. And
38:39
Speaker 12: the difference between Hesbela and Iran is that they get
38:42
Speaker 12: no warning when a missile comes over from just up
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Speaker 12: north in Lebanon, and so that is a situation that
38:49
Speaker 12: really needs to be taken care of. I believe that
38:53
Speaker 12: when things came down in Iran, there will be an
38:56
Speaker 12: uprising and things will finish themselves off naturally with the regime.
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Speaker 12: That's not really the case with Hesbla, and so I
39:04
Speaker 12: think that it's right for Israel to insist that they
39:08
Speaker 12: are able to take out as Hesbla while they have
39:10
Speaker 12: the ability to do so.
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Speaker 1: That was the Admiral's point of view, is that you're
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Speaker 1: not doing Lebanon any favors by stopping Israel from exterminating
39:18
Speaker 1: hesbal Lot. You're doing a disservice to the Lebanese because
39:22
Speaker 1: the country can't ever recover as long as that parasitical
39:25
Speaker 1: malignancy is there in the country. Now, a couple of
39:30
Speaker 1: ICBMs got through. Ballistic missiles got through. They're not ICBMs,
39:34
Speaker 1: just ballistic missiles and injured a lot of people over
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Speaker 1: the weekend, primarily, according to doctor Orrin, elderly people who
39:41
Speaker 1: can't move that fast. I would have thought by now
39:43
Speaker 1: the Israelis had a plan for that.
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Speaker 12: No, I mean, unfortunately, you know, there's different I think
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Speaker 12: I've made this joke on your show before that in
39:54
Speaker 12: Hebrew there's so many different words for bomb shelter, and
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Speaker 12: in older buildings, people don't a bomb shelter in the
40:01
Speaker 12: apartment building or necessarily, you know, even in the basement.
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Speaker 12: And so you know, you have to sometimes run across
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Speaker 12: the street, and you have seven minutes to do it,
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Speaker 12: and less time if it's Hesbela, and so you know,
40:12
Speaker 12: it's it's difficult. It's difficult for old people, especially when
40:15
Speaker 12: they're woken up in the middle of the night, to
40:16
Speaker 12: get moving that fast. I have a friend who was
40:20
Speaker 12: on the road who was visiting her in laws. Her
40:22
Speaker 12: husband is in Gaza right now, and so she wanted
40:24
Speaker 12: to visit her in laws to give herself a break,
40:26
Speaker 12: and she drove with four young kids by herself, and
40:30
Speaker 12: over the course of that drive, she had to stop
40:33
Speaker 12: four different times for missile sirens and she had to
40:35
Speaker 12: collect four young children out of the car and run
40:38
Speaker 12: into a gas station bomb shelter and stuff in there.
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Speaker 6: Like Stardine's.
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Speaker 12: With fifty sixty people, that's really hard and they she
40:48
Speaker 12: said that there at every single stop there were people
40:50
Speaker 12: who had to be turned away because the bomb shelter
40:53
Speaker 12: was so full it was suffocating.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've not thought of this before, but our
40:58
Speaker 1: bomb shelters, well in Israel, do they have like arrows
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Speaker 1: bomb shelter here that's sort of like UK during the blitz.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they are.
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Speaker 12: And she remarked that she learned that every gas station
41:11
Speaker 12: has one, and so she just would keep driving until
41:14
Speaker 12: she saw a gas station. In the south, there's a
41:17
Speaker 12: lot more roadside bomb shelters because there were so many
41:20
Speaker 12: missiles sent over from Hamas and so in the Gaza
41:23
Speaker 12: envelope there's a lot. In the middle of the country
41:26
Speaker 12: there's not so many, and so you know, at these
41:29
Speaker 12: roadside shelters next to gas stations. There was fifty sixty
41:32
Speaker 12: seventy people stuffing in them and her kid in one
41:36
Speaker 12: of them had a panic attack because he knew the
41:38
Speaker 12: story of October seventh where hirschfolder Poland was taken out
41:42
Speaker 12: of that roadside shelter and he said, is this how
41:44
Speaker 12: hersh was taken?
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Speaker 6: And he had a panic attack and he's a ten
41:47
Speaker 6: year old kid.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be a molding event. I don't
41:54
Speaker 1: know if it'll make people tougher and more resilient, but
41:57
Speaker 1: it is definitely the last thirty months have changed the
42:01
Speaker 1: entire generation of Israeli children. Maybe some will be too
42:04
Speaker 1: young to remember, but everyone between the ages of five
42:07
Speaker 1: and fifteen rights. It's in their genes now.
42:12
Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: And this is on top of COVID before this, and
42:15
Speaker 12: so they've they've really had a very difficult childhood over there.
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Speaker 12: And you know, my friends have have shared anecdotally with
42:22
Speaker 12: me one on one but also on social media just
42:25
Speaker 12: how traumatic the last six years have been for their
42:27
Speaker 12: kids because there, unfortunately they didn't have the protections that
42:32
Speaker 12: we have here and so it was it was very
42:34
Speaker 12: draconian with COVID for a year and a half.
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Speaker 1: So are they expecting a Passover, just Israel being hit
42:45
Speaker 1: with everything iron can possibly hit on the night of Passover.
42:48
Speaker 1: That's what I think is going to happen.
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Speaker 6: They should they should expect that. I mean, it's awful.
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Speaker 12: I was reflecting actually on yesterday, we were talking about
42:57
Speaker 12: last Passover, how the the Pennsylvania Governor's house was hit
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Speaker 12: last year, and so I think Jewish communities around the
43:05
Speaker 12: world are expecting to be hit.
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Speaker 6: In London, volunteer ambulances.
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Speaker 12: Were lit on fire last night, and so I think
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Speaker 12: all around the world Israel and outside of Israel, Jews
43:15
Speaker 12: are sort of bracing themselves for what anti Semites throw
43:18
Speaker 12: their way on past.
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Speaker 1: We need to pause on that story because I don't
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Speaker 1: think many Americans know four there's a volunteer Jewish ambulance
43:24
Speaker 1: service in England that had four ambulances, all of them
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Speaker 1: were torched last night. I don't think yours. I think
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Speaker 1: his government serious about this. I don't think they care.
43:34
Speaker 1: I really, I just don't think they care. What do
43:36
Speaker 1: you think.
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Speaker 6: I mean? He at least called it anti Semitic. The
43:41
Speaker 6: beautiful thing about this ambulance service is.
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Speaker 12: That it serves everyone, and so you know, this is
43:46
Speaker 12: just a volunteer ambulance service that will respond to anyone
43:50
Speaker 12: for anything. And it was arson and it was an
43:53
Speaker 12: arson attack. It was in Golders Green, where I was,
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Speaker 12: I don't know, ten months ago or so. And the
44:00
Speaker 12: security is not sufficient there. I don't know if it's
44:02
Speaker 12: improved since the Hokey Pour attack, but there have been
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Speaker 12: so many antisemitic incidents that my friends there have shared
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Speaker 12: and there's been nothing in the way of increased patrols,
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Speaker 12: increased security. It's it's it's a scary time for London Jews,
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Speaker 12: and a lot of my friends who live there say
44:19
Speaker 12: that they're making their exit plan one minute.
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Speaker 1: Is a scary time for American Jews? Or is it
44:25
Speaker 1: just mom Donnie run in his mouth with a crazy wife?
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Speaker 12: I mean, I think I think it is scary in
44:33
Speaker 12: some ways. I you know, I'm careful with my kids
44:37
Speaker 12: about walking to synagogue and you know, wearing yamaicas in
44:40
Speaker 12: places where we might not necessarily be safe and comfortable.
44:45
Speaker 12: But I personally I feel mostly safe. I think that
44:50
Speaker 12: there's incidents that like happened. It depends of no governor's
44:54
Speaker 12: house last year. I think that there do need to
44:57
Speaker 12: be increased patrols and increased funding for increased patrols all
45:01
Speaker 12: around the country.
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Speaker 6: But on a personal level, I still feel safe.
45:04
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