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Patriots Unfiltered 1/13: Mike Vrabel Introduced as New Head Coach and Exclusive In-Studio Interview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: I've wanted Mike Rable to be there.
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  Speaker 4: You guys, HOI on all right? Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered
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  Speaker 4: Special New Era Emergency podcast. Mike Vrabel's in the house
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  Speaker 4: twelve o'clock press conference to announce him as the seventeenth
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  Speaker 4: or sixteenth head coach of the New England Patriots. Sixteenth
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  Speaker 4: head Coach of the New England Patriots, Mike Rabels. So
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  Speaker 4: we're all excited. We decided we have to do a
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  Speaker 4: show today, so we will be live until the press conference.
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  Speaker 4: We'll break here at about eleven fifty five and the three
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  Speaker 4: of us will hustle up to the press conference. Then
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  Speaker 4: as soon as the press conference is over, we'll hustle
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  Speaker 4: back down and we'll do a show after the press
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  Speaker 4: conference to get your reaction to everything that's happened today.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, it's Paul, it's Mike. Uh, what are
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  Speaker 4: we feeling? How do we feel, guys?
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  Speaker 5: I feel the same way I did last week. I
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  Speaker 5: love Mike Rabel. I think he's going to be a
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  Speaker 5: fine choice for the coach. And I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 5: getting my balls busted by Mike Rails so that's what
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  Speaker 5: he does.
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  Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to him busting your balls. Maybe I'll
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  Speaker 6: be lucky if he busted mind. But uh, I bought
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  Speaker 6: a little prop today, guys. I had to do it.
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  Speaker 6: I had to do it here.
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  Speaker 4: It is this.
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  Speaker 3: Some people, you know, they talked to talk, but I
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  Speaker 3: walked the walk. This is it. I went out. My
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  Speaker 3: kid was little.
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  Speaker 6: We put them in a little Verable jersey. So I've
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  Speaker 6: always loved Mike Rable. I know we hung on to
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  Speaker 6: this special keepsake.
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  Speaker 5: So do you throw anything away?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this one. No, but I'm glad I didn't.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I tried to get into it this morning. Paul wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't that easy.
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  Speaker 4: So you know what you have to fun You show
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  Speaker 4: up wearing that.
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  Speaker 5: Now you can't do it. I was gonna say you should.
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  Speaker 5: You should have him signed it, but we getting We
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  Speaker 5: get in trouble for things like that, so we probably
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 6: But but no, ID echo what Paul said. And I mean,
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  Speaker 6: looking back through my my blogging days, Fred. I looked
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  Speaker 6: and I found the exact day. It was in twenty
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  Speaker 6: fifteen that I first said, you know, I love Mike Rable.
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  Speaker 6: I think he'd be a great, you know guy to
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  Speaker 6: follow up Bill. So I just feel refreshed today. I
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  Speaker 6: feel like I you know, we've kind of put last season.
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  Speaker 6: It feels like it's been what eight days, It feels
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  Speaker 6: like it was a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: At this point.
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  Speaker 6: I'm excited to forget about that season and I think,
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  Speaker 6: you know, this is what the team needs.
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  Speaker 3: They need somebody to.
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  Speaker 6: Come in and you know, right the ship, get everything
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  Speaker 6: back on track. And I mean not just talking about
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  Speaker 6: last year, but going back a couple of years when
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  Speaker 6: it just felt like things were falling apart.
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  Speaker 3: We couldn't put all.
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  Speaker 6: Together, a lot of mistakes on the field, a lot
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  Speaker 6: of those you know, Paul we has talked about them
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  Speaker 6: winning close games like that stuff was out the window.
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  Speaker 6: They you know, were self inflicted wounds here and there
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  Speaker 6: for the last couple of seasons. So I'm just excited
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  Speaker 6: for a breath of fresh air and to see what
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  Speaker 6: Mike Crable's going to come in and do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean as far as setting the tone and
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  Speaker 4: setting things up and so on. He's done it before
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  Speaker 4: he knows what he wants to do. He's going to
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  Speaker 4: hit the ground running in terms of those things. Now,
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  Speaker 4: he still needs to hire an offensive coordinator and a
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  Speaker 4: defensive coordinator and get his staff together. But I got
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  Speaker 4: a feeling he's got an idea about what he wants
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  Speaker 4: to do with that.
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  Speaker 5: So I have a feeling when we come back to
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  Speaker 5: do the show conference, we're going to have a lot
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  Speaker 5: more information, you know, along those lines. Yeah, maybe not everything,
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  Speaker 5: but more information.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people are just assuming that Josh McDaniels
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  Speaker 4: is going to be the OC. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: that's true or not. How do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 5: It could be? I wouldn't. I'd feel very similar. I
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  Speaker 5: like Rabel, I think more as a head coach than
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  Speaker 5: I do McDaniels as an offensive coordinator. But I like
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  Speaker 5: Josh a lot too. I look forward to the same
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  Speaker 5: thing with Josh because I think Mike and I have
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  Speaker 5: a pretty good relationship with him, and I think he
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  Speaker 5: has demonstrated the ability to run an offense. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it's been anywhere near as good without Brady,
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  Speaker 5: But who would be you know, who would be anywhere
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  Speaker 5: near as good. You know, I was looking up something
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  Speaker 5: for a millbag today. We had someone comparing Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 5: and Adam Gase, you know, because Adam Gase had great
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  Speaker 5: success as an offensive coordinator. Yes in twenty thirteen with
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  Speaker 5: Peyton Manning when they set a record, have a feeling
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  Speaker 5: that was a little bit more to do with Peyton
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  Speaker 5: Manning than it was Adam Gase. And then Adam Gase
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  Speaker 5: went to Chicago and had like the eighteenth ranked.
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  Speaker 4: Offense with the I think that's why.
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  Speaker 5: That's what happens when you have a great Hall of
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  Speaker 5: Fame quarterback, he lifts your offense to.
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  Speaker 4: Great And I think that's why Ben Johnson is getting
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  Speaker 4: so much acclaim across the league as he's doing it
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  Speaker 4: with a reclamation project.
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  Speaker 5: Jared, Yeah, yeah, it's much more impressive.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So the question is, can Josh adapt and do
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  Speaker 4: what's best for Drake May and forget about Tom Brady,
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  Speaker 4: you know, literally just forget about Tom Brady, uh, because
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  Speaker 4: no one's going to be him and no one can
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  Speaker 4: do what he did. But turning back to Mike Vrabel,
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  Speaker 4: because this is his day, he seems, you know, from
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  Speaker 4: what I can what I've heard so far. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we've put some stuff up on social media already. He
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  Speaker 4: seems genuinely excited about being here. There was a rumor
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  Speaker 4: that Brady reached out to him and says, don't bother,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going back to New England.
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  Speaker 5: So I was reported yesterday by that was reported and
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  Speaker 5: so so it doesn't sound like there was much hemon
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  Speaker 5: and haweing on his part, like he really wanted to
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  Speaker 5: be here.
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  Speaker 4: They wanted him back here, and it happened. And uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, listen, we heard rumors that this was going
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  Speaker 4: to happen. We were going to have a press conference
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  Speaker 4: this Monday, maybe, you know. So I think internally in
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  Speaker 4: the organization they would playing what's the soonest? What's the soonest?
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  Speaker 4: This could happen Monday morning, and so they prepared for
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  Speaker 4: it and it did happen. But uh, yeah, the Crafts
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  Speaker 4: knew who they wanted they and they got it done.
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  Speaker 5: So that's the part that I would say that I
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  Speaker 5: that I like is regardless of what you think of
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  Speaker 5: the choice, and reasonable minds can disagree, but I liked
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  Speaker 5: the idea that they identified something and they were able
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  Speaker 5: to execute it. You know, they went after it. I
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  Speaker 5: think we can all talk about sort of the plus
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  Speaker 5: and of the process, you know, through search. I personally
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  Speaker 5: would rather have had them talk to more guys and
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  Speaker 5: come back and if it lands on Rabel lands on Rabel,
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  Speaker 5: no problem there. But again, reasonable minds can can have
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  Speaker 5: different opinions. They identified Rabel, and they not only identified it,
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  Speaker 5: but they executed it bang. They went after it, they
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  Speaker 5: got it, and they did it quickly and effectively. I
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  Speaker 5: think that's really encouraging if you're a patriot, and if.
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  Speaker 4: Some of the kind of reporting is correct. A month
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  Speaker 4: before the season ended, it sounded like they were already
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  Speaker 4: what if we have to make a change. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know how they would have been doing it, but
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  Speaker 4: they were kind of maybe getting it out, you know,
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  Speaker 4: looking around to see if we had to make a change,
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  Speaker 4: who would it be? You know? And sometimes yes, sometimes
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  Speaker 4: you know, the quickest route is sometimes the best. May
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  Speaker 4: maybe you know, what is Ben Johnson? Maybe his ceiling
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  Speaker 4: higher or he could be the next you know McVeigh possibly,
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  Speaker 4: But you got this guy right there. You got a
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  Speaker 4: guy who you know, you know, the kind of organization
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  Speaker 4: that he's going to create, the culture's going to create
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  Speaker 4: because he's done it before, and you know, let's let's
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  Speaker 4: take the bird in the hand, and you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 4: that's the best route. And so they did it. And
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, like Paul said, could they have talked to
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  Speaker 4: more people, Sure, but sometimes you just when it's right
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  Speaker 4: in front of you, just do it.
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  Speaker 8: Just do it.
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  Speaker 5: Like I said, I like the fact that they didn't
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  Speaker 5: think it was important to do that, and they did
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  Speaker 5: it quickly and they did it effectively.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind seeing the talk to more people. Now
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  Speaker 6: come about with the offensive coordinator, And I mean, Iko
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  Speaker 6: you said, if it is Josh McDaniel's great, we know
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  Speaker 6: him a little bit. I have confidence he could do
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  Speaker 6: the job. But I think this is the time to
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  Speaker 6: you know, maybe find those up and coming offensive coaches.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that will bring a little bit of Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I just I'd be open to new
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  Speaker 6: names in that. And you know, nothing against Josh, but
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  Speaker 6: you know, I think the stability that Josh who provide
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  Speaker 6: is certainly appealing. I mean, we talked so much about
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  Speaker 6: in success you're probably gonna lose this guy quick. But
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  Speaker 6: you know, I just think at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 6: this was such an obvious choice, and you know, yes,
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  Speaker 6: last year it was kind of rushed and out of
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  Speaker 6: nowhere and all of a sudden, it's just Mayo and
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  Speaker 6: there's no real process. And I think that hung over
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  Speaker 6: this a little bit. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 6: this was the guy all along, right, I mean, this
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  Speaker 6: it all lined up this year. I mean I wish
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  Speaker 6: they'd done it last year, to be honest, but you know,
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  Speaker 6: now they've got the guy. He's been here and I
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  Speaker 6: think I said it last week. Just what I love
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  Speaker 6: about Rabel is not a lot of people, but a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people from who are successful with the dynasty
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  Speaker 6: talk about a lot about what it was and what
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  Speaker 6: they did and what the Patriot Way was, and you
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  Speaker 6: know how they he never talked about it like he
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  Speaker 6: just did it. He went out in big games. He
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  Speaker 6: caught touchdowns. You know, I saw the edit we put out,
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  Speaker 6: and it's like they're all Super Bowl highlights, their sacks
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  Speaker 6: in the super Bowl. There are touchdowns in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: It it plays in big games.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 3: That was what Mike Vrabel was.
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  Speaker 6: He's not somebody who's going to go around and tell
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  Speaker 6: you all about what the Patriot Way is and why
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  Speaker 6: we're better than everybody else. He's just going to go
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  Speaker 6: out there and kick your ass, and I just that's
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  Speaker 6: the attitude that I love. I think it's a hard
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  Speaker 6: place for this organization. They needed to move on from Bill,
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  Speaker 6: they needed to kind of clear the slate. Really hard
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  Speaker 6: for Jirod to do that. I think Mike Rabel can
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  Speaker 6: do it. He's got a program.
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  Speaker 4: And one thing you can be sure of, beyond being
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  Speaker 4: judged by wins, which is what every head coach is
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  Speaker 4: judged by, Rabel knows that he's going to be judged
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  Speaker 4: on how he develops Drake May. So this choice of
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  Speaker 4: an offensive coordinator, I'm sure is going to be done
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  Speaker 4: with that in mind. Yeah. So if he has any
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  Speaker 4: doubt about Josh McDaniels doing that for Drake May, I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure he's going to look elsewhere. But if he does
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  Speaker 4: choose Josh McDaniels, I have faith that it's because he
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  Speaker 4: does believe that he's the right guy to help Drake May.
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  Speaker 6: I think the great thing is last year, when you
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  Speaker 6: were doing these offensive coordinator interviews, you thought maybe you
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  Speaker 6: would have Drake May, maybe you'd have Jaden Daniels.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't really know your interviewing guys asking them what
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  Speaker 3: their process might be for different options that are on
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  Speaker 3: the roster.
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  Speaker 6: But now you have the guy you know exactly who
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  Speaker 6: you're going to be developing. I think that just that
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  Speaker 6: helps matters, you know, you know, he can say I've
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  Speaker 6: looked at Drake's tape, this is what I would do,
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  Speaker 6: this is what I would do.
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  Speaker 4: And and Rabel's success is tied to this OHC decision
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  Speaker 4: kind of because if you know, two years from now,
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  Speaker 4: we're still you know, middling. That's not going to be
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  Speaker 4: good enough. That's not gonna be good enough. And Drake
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  Speaker 4: may hasn't you know, risen to the you know, levels
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  Speaker 4: that we think he's capable of. That's not going to
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  Speaker 4: be good And Rabel's smart, he knows that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he knows that.
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  Speaker 6: I'd much rather have that hanging over my head than
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  Speaker 6: I don't even know who my quarterback is at this point.
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  Speaker 6: You know that, Oh yeah, you know, it's easier to
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  Speaker 6: go into it knowing that. But you know, somebody's got
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  Speaker 6: to clean up the turnovers for Drake. I'd say that's
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  Speaker 6: the place to start with him, is you know, big
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  Speaker 6: key for next year is being safe.
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  Speaker 3: With the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Then you get to the defensive side of the ball,
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  Speaker 4: which is to me more of a mystery, crazy because
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  Speaker 4: it's not like, oh, the defense was fine last year. No,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't. That might have more cleaning up to do
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  Speaker 4: than anything. Because on offense, to me, yes, the scheme
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  Speaker 4: is going to be important. Who the OC? But you know,
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  Speaker 4: they just need to get talent. That's pretty apparent. That's
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  Speaker 4: one of the answers on offense, is they need more
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  Speaker 4: talent on defense. I don't know where they start. I
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  Speaker 4: really don't like, do they start with just bringing in
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  Speaker 4: veteran you know, veterans, or do they use the first
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  Speaker 4: draft pick on defense and kind of you know, look
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  Speaker 4: past the offense. The defense to me is a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more complicated. Me too, you know, me too.
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  Speaker 6: I mean that's everybody's got their you know, fifty guys
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  Speaker 6: that could be the offensive coordinator. I haven't heard a
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  Speaker 6: lot of interesting options for defensive cod well, that.
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  Speaker 5: Part, I do think is more complicated. I don't have
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  Speaker 5: any idea who Mike wants as his defensive coordinator, but
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  Speaker 5: I think the problems are very similar talent, well, talent
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  Speaker 5: and scheme, like they need both on both sides of
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  Speaker 5: the ball. I don't know. I think we have an
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  Speaker 5: eye idea that Josh McDaniels is in the mix. There's
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  Speaker 5: been enough people that have been saying, don't be surprised
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  Speaker 5: if Josh MCDI I think we think it's Josh McDaniels
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  Speaker 5: and maybe Tommy Reese from you know, their time together
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  Speaker 5: in Cleveland. I don't have any idea who Mike wants
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  Speaker 5: on defense.
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  Speaker 9: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not as concerned on that side because I think
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  Speaker 5: Mike will be will do a better job of being
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  Speaker 5: sort of head coach with a lean to a defense
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  Speaker 5: than Gerad did. Yeah, you know, like Bill did for
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  Speaker 5: years and years and years. I think that.
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  Speaker 4: They'll is that the way he was in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 5: Like I would be surprised. I don't know exactly how
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  Speaker 5: he delegated in Tennessee, Fred to answer that question, but
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  Speaker 5: I would be surprised if they made a huge departure
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  Speaker 5: away from the way Patriots used to play defense, you know,
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  Speaker 5: with the sort of two gapping philosophies and whatnot. I'd
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  Speaker 5: be surprised if they just said, you know, like Evan
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  Speaker 5: was talking about why he doesn't think Robert Sala would
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  Speaker 5: be a good choice because it's really a departure, you know,
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  Speaker 5: from a system standpoint to the way the Patriots have
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  Speaker 5: played in the past. And then the easy you know
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  Speaker 5: rebud is, well, how do you know the way Mike
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  Speaker 5: Rables are going to play? My guess is that it'll
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  Speaker 5: be similar to the way the Patriots.
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  Speaker 6: Actually I went back and looked, did some digging just
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  Speaker 6: on his one year in Houston as the defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 6: and yeah, you know, just base three four, So I
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  Speaker 6: mean kind of the same route, same or same you know,
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  Speaker 6: root concepts that you know Bill used here, a lot
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  Speaker 6: of you know, who's dropping, who's coming, a lot of
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  Speaker 6: disguise up front. But I do think the core principles
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  Speaker 6: are probably the same of what he'll be drawing out
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  Speaker 6: of them. But you know, the real question is how
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  Speaker 6: complicated does it get with safeties and all that kind
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  Speaker 6: of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: The reason for me the defense is a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more ambiguous, and often you have the quarterback on offense,
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  Speaker 4: so that's the thing that you're building around. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what you're building around on defense, like Gonzales, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: but like it starts up front, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I understand, you're right, yeah, but you do have a
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  Speaker 5: guy that you playing at a good level a young guy.
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  Speaker 10: That offense.
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  Speaker 4: Again, like offense, if you don't have the quarterback, you
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  Speaker 4: better get one. Yeah, they've got the quarterback. You know.
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  Speaker 4: On defense, it's but it has to be more complimentary.
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  Speaker 5: Right, because there isn't that one. Like you can't say, well,
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  Speaker 5: if you don't have an edge rusher then you know,
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  Speaker 5: or you don't have a corner. It's anything everything, right.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I what I think of when
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  Speaker 5: I think of Rabel's defenses in Tennessee is I want
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  Speaker 5: to say, was it nineteen that the Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 5: the other they beat the Patriots here when that was
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  Speaker 5: that was Mike's introduction to.
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  Speaker 4: The Brady's Loserville Brady's last game, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So the defensive game plan that the Titans put together
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  Speaker 5: in the division around the next week at Baltimore, that
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: was a completely unstoppable offense that year, and but in
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: Tennessee stopped it. They I mean, they put up a
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: bunch of yards, but they couldn't score. If you remember
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: the way that game unfolded, they got a lead with
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: Derek Henry running and Rabel you know, just sort of
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: contained Lamar Jacks and and I maybe I'm wrong. I'm
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: giving the credit to Rabel for that the way I
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: used to give the credit to Bill when they would
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: come up with these sort of interesting, different kind of
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: game plans to stop opponents. That's what I think of
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: with with Rabel. I think that's where his expertise.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Rolled along those lines.
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: I think you guys probably saw the Taylor Luan video
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: that he put out, which was really really funny talking.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: About it, guys, don't get ready.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: But what I liked hearing about it that the jokes aside,
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: where you know we talked about with Bill, with him
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: saying he's going to give you keys to the game
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: and he's gonna hammer those and those are the things
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: that are going to help you guys win games. I
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: just I loved hearing that. I think that's where the
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: trust from the players and the coaching staff and what
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: inexperienced coaching staff brings. And it's unfortunately something I don't think,
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: you know, jirod had by the end of the season
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: with his players.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think they know trusted that if we do
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: what the coaches are telling us, we're gonna win.
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: But I think that message out from Rabel will yeah
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: and he certainly he may have gotten that from Bill.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Maybe he got it from being at Ohio State when
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: he was a college player. I don't know. I'm sure
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Bill isn't the only coach that does that.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: I mean they all did. Like yeah, and I know
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: you always get mad at here, but this this was
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: a Parcels tenant. You know, you do these things, we
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: can win, right, you know. And you know, Belichick and
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Parcels for as much as they Bill, for as much
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: as they battled. But I also think Big Bill took
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: a lot from Little Bill too, Like I just think
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: they really complimented each other really well. I think Belichick's
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: expertise was more with x's and o's and Parcels was
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: more with the relationships and the motivation and whatnot. But
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I think they believed in going about their business in
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: a similar way. And I think Rabel falls from.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: That tree, the part about you know, uh, you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Rabel will stand you up and he'll say, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: who's this guy, who's that guy? You know, he'll do
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: everything from you know, the person who takes care of
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: you know, the janitor in the place. You know, you
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: better know everybody in the organization, right, I like that
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: because yeah, come here and immerse yourself, get involved, get
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: to know people, become part of the organization, not just
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: like a mercenary. You know. I like that attitude and
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: that's something that Rabel's gonna bring here.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: So I like how they all make fun of him
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: for talking about his career.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and you know when the link that we
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: sent around in the newsletter, I think was Will Compton
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: did the Vrabel impression, And when he did that, guys
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: just fell out because it's exactly what Rabel.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Fourteen years in the league, well, you know, I know
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: he did.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: I've been in only forty three years, just like just
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: lost it. That was really funny.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Now it's gonna be fun I mean, I think there's
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: just a level of entertainment from Rabel two that just
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: will spice up press conferences like these, Like it's probably
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: gonna be a little some ribs thrown somewhere, I'm imagining.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: But I'm excited for that part.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: I just I think he brings a great edge and
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: I just think it's exactly what the New England patriots
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: need right now for where they are, and you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: getting away from the last twenty years and all that
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: you know, starting over, starting a new leaf, and you
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: know something that everybody can really believe in it. That's
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, I've seen across the board it seems like
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: people are like, this is the right choice. That's the
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: right choice for this team. So it feels good to
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: you know, have that kind of be the sentiment other
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: than you.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Get some accountability. That's the word that everybody uses with
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: what he's going to hold you accountable.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's so funny though to hear the
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: people on on the Twitter who you know, hate the media.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the media is going to get it now.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: You know they're not going to be able to get
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: away with anything. Now you know who's going to be
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: the first person to get yelled at my brable? It's
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: like who cares?
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Oh but they care, no, no, But what I'm saying
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: as a media guy, like that happens. Sometimes you're gonna
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: get Sometimes you're going to ask a dumb question, You're
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: going to get like that. That's part of the gig.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: But there's like part of the gig. There's a whole
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: of people on Twitter just waiting for that.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I got admitted.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about it too, Like if when I get,
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: you know, an opportunity, it's some juncture to interview him.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I feel like you know what you're asking, don't better
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: who I know?
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I don't care. You should actually you should actually put
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: some fun into your It shouldn't be like, you know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: a chit chat. I totally have you know, a reason
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: for asking the question, right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I totally agree with that, And I've never ever changed
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: my thought process going into an interview based on who
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I'm interviewing right right, like I need to be on
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: my you know, on my toes on no matter who,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: you should know what you're going to be asking.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Now, I'm not saying like sometimes you walk through the
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: locker room and you're like, oh, I didn't necessarily think
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: I was going to talk to David Andrews today, But
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: David Andrews is over there by himself. I have, you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: I know him. I'm going to go over and talk,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: you know, and I might not have a question different.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: That's just a conversation. But if you're sitting down to
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: interview somebody, you shouldn't take it more seriously if it's
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: Bill Belichick than you would if it's dry.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and by the way, if you're in a press
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: conference and someone asked the question you were going to ask.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you have to come up with a
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: new question on the fly. You're done. You've got your
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: answer that you know, you know, you don't have to be.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I'll just go with about like how was your breakfast?
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: Right?
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: You don't have to be heard from every press conference. Yeah, anyway, Wow,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: we permanently took a turn. We're getting down a rabbit
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: hole here, but so.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: We're gonna be going in about five minutes. So anything
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: anybody would like to ask. I don't know how many
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: people actually listening to pressure if there's something specific, Yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: people are interested in you get you got five minutes.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Shoot for a quick email.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to hear about this last year.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So get your get your emails ready, get your
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: calls ready.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Get your information ready.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: When you come to fifty four after the press conference,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: I think they're gonna feel be here. I think they're
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: gonna go to lunch, the Crafts and Vrabel. But then
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: he's gonna go through the car wash here. We're gonna
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: have a photo session and he's going to do a
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: sit down and media will get to talk to him
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: one on one. I put the request in. I don't
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: know if it's going to happen. Hopefully he'll stop by
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: the studio for five or ten minutes. We'll get him,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: we'll get him into our layer where we can be
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: a little bit more informal. But we'll see. But it's
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: so once the press conference over, we'll come back and
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: start the show up again, and we'll keep going as
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: long as we need to.
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: You know, there's really no set end time because we
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: don't know exactly when we're going to get here. But
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: we'll get to your calls and emails when we come
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: back from the press conference, so it'll be all good, uh,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: and we'll have a lot to talk about.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Now, my guess is anything that you guys are
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: interested in, it probably gonna get asked. Yes, as much
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: as much as I like to, you know, sort of
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: poke fun at my fellow colleagues. Generally, at these kinds
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: of press conferences, all the pert Yeah, all the pertinent
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: questions are asked.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: So we should think if we get to him and
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: some anecdotes that you know happened when we were here,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: like hey, you know you remember this or that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't necessarily need to go down that rabbit hole.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Did you ever have any like, like fun interactions with him?
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a lot of fun interactions with him. Yeah,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: so it's always the butt of his jokes. Okay, Yeah,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: I mean I wasn't you know. It wasn't like he
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: picked on me. He picked on everybody, Bill, But.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Did he ever pick on you in particular?
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Like no, Yeah, I mean he used to make fun
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Like as an example, when we used to do a
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: lot of TV, we would do like the you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: my shows after you know, so I would have TV
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: clothes on in the locker room and he'd be like, oh,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: NBC Sports Boston Tonight, Comcast at the time, Comcast, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I got the Fall Colors, going things like that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: You know, that's professional, but that's a good thing. That
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: means he pays attention. He pays attention to people, you know.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Like that's just an example. But like this was not
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: because of me. This is what he did to everybody.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, as I said, including Bill.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I tell a story when we were doing three
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Games to Glory two, I had him and I looked
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: it up. I forgot who else it was him, Dion
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Branch and Givens, and we did a director's cut where
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: they watched the game and commented on it while we're
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: watching the game, and after words, after we shot it,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I had Rabel sat down and watch some of the
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: other stuff because he was interested. And he sits down,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: He's like, why'd you do this? Edit? You should have
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: done this, you should have done that. I'm like, Okay,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: this guy like he wants he's got opinions about everything,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: and that was good. Now we were too far down
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the process to make changes, but some of the things
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: that he said made sense, you know, from a player's standpoint,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: So maybe I'll remind him of that. That was three
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: games to glory two after the Panthers win, so good stuff.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I was very excited. So Matt, I think we're gonna
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: wrap it up. The three of us are going to
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: head up to the SI Pavilion where they're having the
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: press conference, so we're gonna have that live on Patriots
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: dot com as well. Watch that, and then there'll probably
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: be some time in between the ending of that to
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: when we get back down here, but we'll be back
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: with a full show right after that.
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  Speaker 14: Well welcome. We were gathered here today. We were gathered
• 25:38
  Speaker 14: here fifteen months ago at the Sports Illustrator Pavilion to
• 25:46
  Speaker 14: welcome Mike as a new inductee into the Patriots Hall
• 25:51
  Speaker 14: of Fame. And I'm really proud that fifteen months later,
• 25:57
  Speaker 14: we're back here today to invite him and his lovely
• 26:02
  Speaker 14: wife Jen to announce as the new head coach of
• 26:07
  Speaker 14: the New England Patriots. I'd like to ask Jen if
• 26:10
  Speaker 14: she'd come up here for a moment.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: This is from our.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: This is from our entire fan base.
• 26:23
  Speaker 14: Here to tell you how excited we are about your
• 26:27
  Speaker 14: both being Thank you.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: So.
• 26:37
  Speaker 14: Mike's history with the NFL, you know, it's sort of
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: his experience is what embodies what's great about the NFL.
• 26:48
  Speaker 14: He joined us in two thousand and one as an
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: unheralded free agent, and he had never started a game.
• 27:00
  Speaker 14: He had been in the league four years, and he
• 27:04
  Speaker 14: joined us, and he became a starter those next four
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: years and we were privileged to win three Super Bowls
• 27:13
  Speaker 14: in that time. And his impact, because of his work
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: ethic and his competitive drive and his leadership skills made
• 27:24
  Speaker 14: it very special those four years. And those personal characteristics
• 27:33
  Speaker 14: also made him a very high performing coach, which he
• 27:38
  Speaker 14: had started to do seven years ago. After being a
• 27:44
  Speaker 14: linebacker coach at Ohio State for a year, he became
• 27:48
  Speaker 14: a new coach at the Tennessee Titans for six years
• 27:53
  Speaker 14: and finished with a record, a winning record. You know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 14: I might remind everyone in the room. In twenty nineteen,
• 28:04
  Speaker 14: he beat us right here in the playoffs. It was
• 28:09
  Speaker 14: Tommy's last game as a Patriot, and then he went
• 28:13
  Speaker 14: on to Baltimore and beat the Ravens there who were
• 28:18
  Speaker 14: the number one seed. And then in twenty twenty one,
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: he finished with the best record in the AFC twelve
• 28:28
  Speaker 14: and five and it was the number one season, number
• 28:32
  Speaker 14: one team. In the interview process, Mike showed us that
• 28:43
  Speaker 14: he had a very deep understanding of our current team
• 28:47
  Speaker 14: and most importantly, he had a clear and focused strategy
• 28:52
  Speaker 14: of how to get us back to a championship way
• 28:58
  Speaker 14: that is so important to all of us, but also
• 29:03
  Speaker 14: something that I think our fan base really deserves and expects.
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: So with that being said, it's my great honor to
• 29:15
  Speaker 14: introduce you all to the next head coach of the
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: New England Patriots, Mike Rabel.
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: Thank you guys.
• 29:32
  Speaker 15: Can put your cameras down and clap a little bit.
• 29:34
  Speaker 15: Some of you familiar faces that I remember from back
• 29:37
  Speaker 15: in the day, but that's okay. Thank you, Robert. You
• 29:42
  Speaker 15: know I'm humbled, I'm grateful. It's a lot of people
• 29:45
  Speaker 15: that have helped me get to this point, and I
• 29:49
  Speaker 15: want to thank them. I want to use this opportunity
• 29:51
  Speaker 15: to thank them in front of you. You'll get to
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: know some of them, most of them.
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: And I want to thank my family. I want to
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: thank Jen and Along for this ride.
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: For quite a while, Tyler and Carter, who grew up here,
• 30:05
  Speaker 15: who spent time here.
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: You know, it probably wasn't the easiest thing to be.
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: My son as I was trying to figure this out
• 30:15
  Speaker 15: and figure out the difference between being a dad and
• 30:17
  Speaker 15: being a coach.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: So I love them dearly. You'll see them around hopefully. Obviously.
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: Want to thank my parents, thank Chuck and e Lane.
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: And as I go through this interview process, I'm always
• 30:30
  Speaker 15: quick to tell people that I'm an only child and
• 30:33
  Speaker 15: only children are spoiled, which I was.
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: I was an only child of two educators.
• 30:38
  Speaker 15: But my dad was a basketball coach and assistant football coach,
• 30:41
  Speaker 15: and he taught me what it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: Was to.
• 30:45
  Speaker 15: Be tough, to work hard, and to embrace being part
• 30:49
  Speaker 15: of a team and loving being part of a team,
• 30:52
  Speaker 15: and how powerful that can be when you're an only child.
• 30:56
  Speaker 15: Those are probably hard things to understand, but I would
• 30:58
  Speaker 15: tell you that those are things that I built.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: On, that I believe in that I want to try.
• 31:02
  Speaker 15: To put as many people in this building and around
• 31:06
  Speaker 15: our players that are like that, so I thank them.
• 31:09
  Speaker 15: I want to thank Robert and Jonathan and Daniel and
• 31:12
  Speaker 15: the entire Craft family, not only for the time that
• 31:17
  Speaker 15: I spent here as a player, but the experience a
• 31:20
  Speaker 15: year and a half ago that Robert mentioned with the
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: Hall of Fame, just the class that they showed myself,
• 31:27
  Speaker 15: my family, my friends, the people that came. You know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 15: I think the biggest one of the biggest groups I'd
• 31:36
  Speaker 15: like to thank are the players that have impacted me
• 31:38
  Speaker 15: along the way from Ohio State that when I didn't
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: know what I was doing, I had no idea. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 15: just try to figure it out as I went along
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: to the ones that I had in Houston to the
• 31:52
  Speaker 15: ones in Tennessee. Robert mentioned that we won twelve games
• 31:57
  Speaker 15: in two thousand and one. We played ninety one players
• 32:00
  Speaker 15: and they all cared about the team immensely. They would
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: do whatever it took for the team to win. And
• 32:07
  Speaker 15: and with that, the coaches that have impacted me along
• 32:10
  Speaker 15: the way, my high school football coach Jerry Reardon. I
• 32:14
  Speaker 15: think I've had a great opportunity to play for, to
• 32:18
  Speaker 15: coach with, and coach for some unbelievable mentors people that
• 32:22
  Speaker 15: have helped shape me. From John Cooper, Bill Cower, John Mitchell,
• 32:30
  Speaker 15: Romeo Cornell, Bill Belichick and the multiple coaches that were
• 32:35
  Speaker 15: here to to to Luke Fickle, to Urban Meyer, to
• 32:41
  Speaker 15: Bill O'Brien, who who you know held up his end
• 32:46
  Speaker 15: of the bargain when he asked me to come to
• 32:47
  Speaker 15: the Houston Texans with him. He said, I'm gonna do
• 32:50
  Speaker 15: everything I can to get you ready to be a
• 32:51
  Speaker 15: head coach.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 32:53
  Speaker 15: He did that, and he's a he's a great friend,
• 32:55
  Speaker 15: and I'm gonna support Billy every way I can.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Up the road at Chestnut Hill.
• 33:00
  Speaker 15: So you know, the assistant coaches that have you know,
• 33:05
  Speaker 15: held me accountable, you know, to to leading the team
• 33:09
  Speaker 15: sometimes when you know when you're not right or you
• 33:12
  Speaker 15: need somebody to say, hey, there's another way. And I
• 33:15
  Speaker 15: want to thank those coaches because to be in this
• 33:18
  Speaker 15: situation you need so many people around you, and you
• 33:22
  Speaker 15: put in place to to help the players. I want
• 33:26
  Speaker 15: to thank the teams that were you know, willing to
• 33:29
  Speaker 15: meet with me through this process to give me an
• 33:32
  Speaker 15: opportunity to potentially lead their team. But in the end,
• 33:36
  Speaker 15: you know, it was clear to me and to my
• 33:38
  Speaker 15: family and my soul that this was the place that
• 33:42
  Speaker 15: that I.
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: Wanted to be.
• 33:43
  Speaker 15: And uh and I thank Robert, and I think the
• 33:46
  Speaker 15: Craft family, you know, excited, excited to get to work,
• 33:53
  Speaker 15: Excited to meet the people in this building that have
• 33:55
  Speaker 15: made this place special, find out what they need, find
• 33:59
  Speaker 15: out how I can help them, how I can help
• 34:02
  Speaker 15: them do their job better, how we can enhance the
• 34:04
  Speaker 15: stuff that we do well, and then find out what
• 34:07
  Speaker 15: the areas of focus are and get to work. I
• 34:11
  Speaker 15: want to galvanize our football team. I want to galvanize
• 34:15
  Speaker 15: this building. I want to gualvanize our fans. And the
• 34:19
  Speaker 15: most important thing are the players, there's some of them
• 34:21
  Speaker 15: right here. I want to provide a program that provides
• 34:26
  Speaker 15: their ownership but also their accountability of each other, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 15: one that they'll be proud to be a part of
• 34:33
  Speaker 15: and that they're going to fight for. You know, you
• 34:36
  Speaker 15: guys are going to ask me questions about culture, which
• 34:40
  Speaker 15: I'll be happy to talk about and discuss. One thing
• 34:43
  Speaker 15: I've realized about culture is that you can find out
• 34:45
  Speaker 15: what your culture looks like when your family, your business,
• 34:48
  Speaker 15: or your team.
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: Is that it's low point.
• 34:50
  Speaker 15: It's not when you're winning super Bowls, or it's not
• 34:54
  Speaker 15: when you're seven and one or ten and one, because
• 34:57
  Speaker 15: then then everybody's waving towels and everybody's happy and they're
• 35:00
  Speaker 15: excited to come to work. But when you get hit
• 35:02
  Speaker 15: in the mouth, or you're down, or the chips are
• 35:04
  Speaker 15: against you, you know, then you can take a snapshot
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: of what your company or your team looks like, and
• 35:09
  Speaker 15: then you'll find out what kind of culture you have.
• 35:11
  Speaker 15: But that culture is going to be built on winning,
• 35:15
  Speaker 15: a competitive spirit throughout our roster, throughout our players, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 15: throughout our coaches and our staff, and the ability to
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: put the team first and care about somebody other than yourself.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: And I'm excited to do that. I'm excited to get
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: to work.
• 35:33
  Speaker 15: But everything and everyone in this building is going to
• 35:35
  Speaker 15: understand and believe that their job is critically important for
• 35:40
  Speaker 15: our success. And it's going to be you know, how
• 35:43
  Speaker 15: can I help you in order to help the players.
• 35:47
  Speaker 15: Our players will respect and they will appreciate and they
• 35:49
  Speaker 15: will be grateful for the opportunity that they have here.
• 35:51
  Speaker 15: And the people that work in this building some very
• 35:54
  Speaker 15: familiar faces that I can't wait to reconnect and to
• 35:59
  Speaker 15: work and figure out how we help these players in
• 36:01
  Speaker 15: this football team. And we're going to earn the right
• 36:04
  Speaker 15: to be here every day. We're gonna remove and uh
• 36:09
  Speaker 15: entitlement from from our football team. We're gonna we're gonna
• 36:12
  Speaker 15: get everything that we've earned from from the.
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: Head coach to the position coaches.
• 36:18
  Speaker 15: All the way down to the players. We're going to
• 36:20
  Speaker 15: earn the right to be here every single day. You know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 15: I always say that, you know, I don't want to
• 36:26
  Speaker 15: get into too many messages that will be geared for
• 36:29
  Speaker 15: the players, you know, but I hold those those conversations,
• 36:35
  Speaker 15: you know, those are special conversations between the coaches and
• 36:38
  Speaker 15: the players. But you know, we want to treat every
• 36:40
  Speaker 15: player the same way they treat the team, and we
• 36:42
  Speaker 15: want to treat every employee the same way that they
• 36:45
  Speaker 15: treat the team. And if they care about the team, uh,
• 36:48
  Speaker 15: and they come here with a great attitude and a
• 36:50
  Speaker 15: willingness to work and help the team, I've asked Robert
• 36:54
  Speaker 15: to do everything that we can for them to support
• 36:57
  Speaker 15: them and their families. That that's the type of environment
• 37:01
  Speaker 15: that I want to build and I'm excited about it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 15: And with that, I would love to answer any questions.
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: That you have. Hi, Mike, anybody, welcome back. Thanks.
• 37:19
  Speaker 16: Just a thought on everything that you've said kind of
• 37:21
  Speaker 16: wrapped in your career as a player here you said
• 37:24
  Speaker 16: this is a special place. As a coach, now, how
• 37:27
  Speaker 16: would you describe what kind of players you want to
• 37:30
  Speaker 16: wear a Patriot uniform to help.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: You win as an organization.
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: Elliott's gonna laugh. I'm gonna say, good ones.
• 37:38
  Speaker 15: That's just an inside joke between him and I already
• 37:41
  Speaker 15: just over the weekend and through the interview process. But uh,
• 37:45
  Speaker 15: you know, we're going to ask our players to just
• 37:47
  Speaker 15: do a few things. One is one is to put
• 37:50
  Speaker 15: the team first, to know what to do, uh, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 15: play fast and aggressive. So that's the vision for the
• 37:57
  Speaker 15: type of player. Winners coming, all shits and sizes, right,
• 38:01
  Speaker 15: We're going to have leaders. Leaders are going to identify themselves.
• 38:05
  Speaker 15: I have know that our staff and our ability to
• 38:09
  Speaker 15: create winners and competitors are probably easier than it is
• 38:15
  Speaker 15: to create leaders. And the leaders are going to identify themselves.
• 38:18
  Speaker 15: The leaders are going to ones that define the culture.
• 38:21
  Speaker 15: The culture will be the you know what drives and
• 38:25
  Speaker 15: gives you the results that we're all you know after,
• 38:28
  Speaker 15: So the type of player, you know they're there when
• 38:32
  Speaker 15: you get into scouting and evaluation. Every team has a height, weight, speed, right,
• 38:37
  Speaker 15: and then it's our job to you know, take analytical
• 38:41
  Speaker 15: data and watch the tape and just figure out where
• 38:43
  Speaker 15: they fit best for us. And maybe they're the best
• 38:46
  Speaker 15: ones and the right ones. That would be wonderful, but uh,
• 38:50
  Speaker 15: it's a long process. And those are the things we're
• 38:53
  Speaker 15: going to ask the players to do. Is put the
• 38:54
  Speaker 15: team first, know what to do and play fast and
• 38:57
  Speaker 15: aggressive and play with some speed.
• 39:02
  Speaker 17: Congratulations, thank you you live through the collaborative process, especially
• 39:07
  Speaker 17: at the end in Tennessee. I'm curious how you view
• 39:10
  Speaker 17: that and do you have roster control control over the draft.
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: Here with the Patriots, well.
• 39:16
  Speaker 15: I think the most important thing is that there's a
• 39:19
  Speaker 15: there's a shared organizational vision for what we want to
• 39:23
  Speaker 15: do and how we want to work and how we
• 39:26
  Speaker 15: want to acquire players. There's numerous ways to acquire players
• 39:30
  Speaker 15: through free agency, trade, draft, post draft process, post after
• 39:37
  Speaker 15: training camp. So again, I'm just excited to get to
• 39:41
  Speaker 15: sit down with Elliott and his staff.
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: I've met more with Elliott over the.
• 39:44
  Speaker 15: Weekend than I have had conversations with him. But I
• 39:50
  Speaker 15: need to sit down with his staff and get figure
• 39:52
  Speaker 15: out where we're at what we need to do. Uh
• 39:55
  Speaker 15: And I'm confident that those types of decisions are all gonna,
• 39:59
  Speaker 15: you know, sort themselves out that that we're we don't
• 40:03
  Speaker 15: want to always be on the same page, like that's
• 40:06
  Speaker 15: not the environment that we want to create. But we
• 40:09
  Speaker 15: want to have a shared vision and there's also different
• 40:12
  Speaker 15: ways to get there, and I'm embracing that everybody is
• 40:15
  Speaker 15: going to have a different personality. I don't want my
• 40:17
  Speaker 15: staff to be like me. I don't want all our
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: players to be similar. You know, We're going to have
• 40:23
  Speaker 15: diverse ideas and that's critical and to be able to
• 40:26
  Speaker 15: have those types of conversations. It's something that I'm looking
• 40:29
  Speaker 15: forward to. Hey Mike, Hey Tommy, what is.
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: Your plan for offensive and defensive coordinators? Is that solidified already?
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: And if not, what's the process? No, that's that's far
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: from solidified.
• 40:43
  Speaker 15: You know, we want to put the best talented coaches
• 40:48
  Speaker 15: in front of our players. When they stand in front
• 40:51
  Speaker 15: of these players, they I want the players to embrace
• 40:54
  Speaker 15: what every coach is teaching. And I will tell you
• 40:58
  Speaker 15: this as long as I'm the head coach here. Uh,
• 41:01
  Speaker 15: our coaches will have three simple jobs. And they sound simple,
• 41:05
  Speaker 15: and they're probably not as simple as we want.
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: To make them be.
• 41:08
  Speaker 15: But they want to teach, they want to develop, and
• 41:10
  Speaker 15: they want to inspire our players by making a connection.
• 41:14
  Speaker 15: We're going to make strong connections with our players so
• 41:19
  Speaker 15: that we can we can coach them and we can
• 41:22
  Speaker 15: push them. And you know, there's I've I've really believed
• 41:28
  Speaker 15: in this system, and I believe in having great teachers,
• 41:32
  Speaker 15: great developers, and and also coaches that will inspire our
• 41:37
  Speaker 15: our men by by making a connection so that they
• 41:39
  Speaker 15: know exactly.
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: What makes them tick. Like we all have stuff outside
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: of here.
• 41:45
  Speaker 15: Every every single coach, every single player, every single person
• 41:48
  Speaker 15: in our building is going to have something outside of
• 41:51
  Speaker 15: football with their family, mentally, physically, They're all going to
• 41:55
  Speaker 15: deal with something. It's going to look different, uh and
• 41:58
  Speaker 15: and it's gonna smell different, but it's something, and we
• 42:01
  Speaker 15: got to deal with it, and we got to when
• 42:03
  Speaker 15: they come in the building, do everything that we can
• 42:07
  Speaker 15: to help them do their jobs. And I do feel
• 42:12
  Speaker 15: the shared experiences that I've had as a player. One
• 42:15
  Speaker 15: thats Robert mentioned didn't start a game for four years
• 42:18
  Speaker 15: and made the roster because of special teams and occasionally
• 42:22
  Speaker 15: playing on third down and backing up and being a
• 42:25
  Speaker 15: backup at more than one position, to a free agent
• 42:28
  Speaker 15: that took an opportunity to come here and started for
• 42:32
  Speaker 15: the next ten years of his career to being a
• 42:34
  Speaker 15: you know, a veteran player who was expected to produce
• 42:37
  Speaker 15: at a high level, to one that, as he got older,
• 42:40
  Speaker 15: was traded to another team that then had to start.
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: Over to had to act as a coach.
• 42:48
  Speaker 15: So I feel like that every player that sits in
• 42:50
  Speaker 15: that meeting room I can at some point in my
• 42:52
  Speaker 15: career relate to and have a conversation about.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: I Mike, Hey, what's.
• 43:02
  Speaker 18: Your philosophy When it comes to developing a young quarterback.
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: And how do you plan on helping Drake May which
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: is potential.
• 43:08
  Speaker 15: Yeah, put put great people around him. You know, we
• 43:11
  Speaker 15: we have to uh, you know, I would say that
• 43:14
  Speaker 15: my involvement will be as it relates to game management
• 43:21
  Speaker 15: and and and situational awareness and where we are on
• 43:25
  Speaker 15: a football field, and and trying to develop him as
• 43:28
  Speaker 15: as a leader of the offense. And when that quarterback,
• 43:31
  Speaker 15: you know, when they call to play, like you want
• 43:33
  Speaker 15: to say, like everybody is going to believe it, it's
• 43:35
  Speaker 15: going to score a touchdown, Like with that type of
• 43:40
  Speaker 15: emphasis on on how everything is going to operate. And uh,
• 43:44
  Speaker 15: you know where Drake is going to be his own person.
• 43:47
  Speaker 15: But but I'm going to give him some things that
• 43:48
  Speaker 15: I feel like are necessary to help us win football games.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: We we have to.
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: Be a very efficient passing football team, right and when
• 43:58
  Speaker 15: you look at statistically what wins in the National Football League,
• 44:01
  Speaker 15: our ability to affect the other team's quarterback and our
• 44:04
  Speaker 15: ability to provide for an efficient quarterback and passing game
• 44:09
  Speaker 15: is a high contributor to success. And there's a lot
• 44:12
  Speaker 15: of ways to do that. You know, by protecting the
• 44:16
  Speaker 15: middle of the pocket and you know, all those things
• 44:19
  Speaker 15: that we're going to talk about as we move forward,
• 44:21
  Speaker 15: but how we protect the football, how we're aggressive but
• 44:24
  Speaker 15: not reckless, understanding where we are in the game, and
• 44:29
  Speaker 15: the situational awareness that I feel like I've developed over
• 44:32
  Speaker 15: six years and then my past year in Cleveland. And
• 44:35
  Speaker 15: I'd be remiss if I didn't thank the you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 15: the Cleveland Browns organization for the opportunity that they provided
• 44:41
  Speaker 15: me last year with Jimmy and d Haslam and then
• 44:45
  Speaker 15: Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski and all those coaches and
• 44:48
  Speaker 15: players that allowed me to spend some time with them
• 44:51
  Speaker 15: last year.
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: Mike welcome.
• 44:56
  Speaker 19: Hey, it's been reported that you'd like to bring Ryan Cowden,
• 45:00
  Speaker 19: who you have a relationship with, to New England here
• 45:03
  Speaker 19: to help with the front office. Is that something you
• 45:05
  Speaker 19: plan on doing or is there somebody else that you
• 45:07
  Speaker 19: might bring to the front office to help in that role.
• 45:09
  Speaker 15: Yeah, Elliot and I will have conversations and as the
• 45:13
  Speaker 15: relates to the staff, like, nothing has been finalized, nothing's
• 45:18
  Speaker 15: been determined. You know, as with any any staff, there's
• 45:22
  Speaker 15: going to be turnover. There's going to be new coaches
• 45:25
  Speaker 15: and new faces, some that I will have history with,
• 45:29
  Speaker 15: and some that I that I won't and that's what
• 45:31
  Speaker 15: the interview process is, uh, And that's what we're going
• 45:35
  Speaker 15: to do. Is Tom mentioned about with the coordinators and
• 45:39
  Speaker 15: you know, being able to to you know, sit down
• 45:42
  Speaker 15: with a bunch of coaches and be able to get
• 45:44
  Speaker 15: the best and the right fit around our players.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Mike, congratulations.
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: Thanks.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: I know during your when you were inducting in the
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Patriots Hall of Fame, you said that this place is special.
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: You've been in a lot of places, this one special.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: What is it that makes it so special for you?
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: Well, I mean the history of winning and the championships,
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: and you know, I would like to thank the teammates
• 46:09
  Speaker 15: that I had here in the eight years that I
• 46:11
  Speaker 15: was here, and the teammates that I.
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: Had and.
• 46:15
  Speaker 15: Pittsburgh and the one and the younger players uh in
• 46:19
  Speaker 15: Kansas City that I learned stuff from.
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: But but that's.
• 46:23
  Speaker 15: What I mean, the people, the history, and not that
• 46:26
  Speaker 15: the the the banners that hang in our stadium, they're
• 46:29
  Speaker 15: they're not going to help us win, but I think
• 46:31
  Speaker 15: it's a great reminder of what it takes to win
• 46:35
  Speaker 15: and the type of people that you haven't have to
• 46:37
  Speaker 15: have in the organization. The selflessness and the work and
• 46:41
  Speaker 15: the sacrifice that you have to make. So to me,
• 46:43
  Speaker 15: those are great reminders of what it takes. Just because
• 46:47
  Speaker 15: those banners hang, uh that that's not going to give
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: us an advantage on the field, but it's going to
• 46:52
  Speaker 15: give us a blueprint on how hard we need to
• 46:55
  Speaker 15: work and the things that we need to do.
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: To be successful. I'm surprised they didn't let you go first, Karen,
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: they didn't let me. I would have let you go first.
• 47:06
  Speaker 14: Thank you, Mike, You're welcome and congratulations.
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: I was wondering if.
• 47:12
  Speaker 15: You have yet had a conversation with Drake May and
• 47:16
  Speaker 15: also what your impressions were of his rookie season watching
• 47:21
  Speaker 15: from afar, Karen, I'm smiling, Karen, because I know I
• 47:24
  Speaker 15: look a lot older than I did when I played here,
• 47:26
  Speaker 15: and Karen looks exactly the same way she did when
• 47:29
  Speaker 15: she stood in front of me in the locker room.
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: That's amazing, Karen.
• 47:32
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 47:33
  Speaker 15: Whatever you're I need some of that, I need it. Yes,
• 47:38
  Speaker 15: I've had, Yes, I've had I've had conversations with players
• 47:41
  Speaker 15: on our team, you know, and.
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: Who that's been with.
• 47:47
  Speaker 15: You know that that I'm going to try to do
• 47:48
  Speaker 15: to the next couple of days, try to reach out
• 47:50
  Speaker 15: to every player and the ones that are here rehabbing
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: and that come through here, and the ones that I'll
• 47:56
  Speaker 15: that I'll call and talk and and ask what I
• 47:58
  Speaker 15: can do to help, and where they're at and the
• 48:00
  Speaker 15: off season and how we how we move forward. Everybody
• 48:07
  Speaker 15: got here and we'll get here through a different avenue.
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 48:11
  Speaker 15: Maybe we drafted them, maybe we signed them as a
• 48:13
  Speaker 15: free agent, Maybe we will sign them as a free agent.
• 48:16
  Speaker 15: But none of that will matter. None of that will
• 48:18
  Speaker 15: matter how how we got here. The only thing that's
• 48:21
  Speaker 15: gonna matter is what we do when we're here. And
• 48:23
  Speaker 15: that's the most important thing that I can tell them
• 48:27
  Speaker 15: is that everybody in my eyes.
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: Is starting over.
• 48:30
  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: And they will prove to.
• 48:31
  Speaker 15: Us and to this team, UH that that their impact
• 48:35
  Speaker 15: that they'll make. And UH, we're gonna give those players
• 48:40
  Speaker 15: an opportunity. And whether we all have to be ready
• 48:44
  Speaker 15: to take advantage of our opportunities. Some people get more opportunities, UH,
• 48:49
  Speaker 15: some people get less. But we're all guaranteed an opportunity,
• 48:51
  Speaker 15: and and will you take advantage of it when it comes?
• 48:58
  Speaker 20: I might congratulations, thank you in the wake of your
• 49:02
  Speaker 20: success at Tennessee. You referenced the experience you had last
• 49:05
  Speaker 20: year at Cleveland. How did that help you evolve as
• 49:08
  Speaker 20: a coach? How were you a different coach today than
• 49:11
  Speaker 20: you were at the end of twenty three one.
• 49:12
  Speaker 15: I realized that I missed it with everything that I
• 49:18
  Speaker 15: had in my soul, that I missed having the opportunity
• 49:21
  Speaker 15: to lead, to help put a team together, a staff together.
• 49:29
  Speaker 15: That I missed that. But I also embraced helping out
• 49:35
  Speaker 15: the players and the younger players. That allowed me more
• 49:38
  Speaker 15: time to try to develop younger players that were on
• 49:41
  Speaker 15: the practice squad, whether that be with the tight ends
• 49:44
  Speaker 15: or the offensive line.
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: I really enjoyed Kevin's idea.
• 49:48
  Speaker 15: Of putting a defensive coach or what would seem to
• 49:51
  Speaker 15: be a defensive coach with the offense. You know, I'm
• 49:56
  Speaker 15: sure if you ask people in Tennessee, they would think
• 49:58
  Speaker 15: that I was probably the third or four offensive line
• 50:00
  Speaker 15: coach as much time as I spent in there. But
• 50:03
  Speaker 15: I know how important it is to a football team
• 50:05
  Speaker 15: and to an offense, and so really enjoyed getting to
• 50:08
  Speaker 15: know those players and teaching them and helping helping the staff,
• 50:11
  Speaker 15: helping the young coaches. It just reminded me the Yes,
• 50:15
  Speaker 15: I'm not forgetting you know, all the small little details
• 50:18
  Speaker 15: right that are critical in coaching and teaching to be
• 50:22
  Speaker 15: able to work with young coaches and help them prepare,
• 50:25
  Speaker 15: interview them, have mock interviews so that they could develop.
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: You know, I always tell them whatever.
• 50:31
  Speaker 15: No one had a worse first coaching interview than I did,
• 50:34
  Speaker 15: and I think that's documented. But it was with Urban Meyert,
• 50:37
  Speaker 15: Ohio State, and it was it was guaranteed to be
• 50:41
  Speaker 15: the worst interview that anybody's ever had. And I got
• 50:44
  Speaker 15: another opportunity eight hours later, and I did a little
• 50:49
  Speaker 15: better the second time. So I try to was able
• 50:52
  Speaker 15: to work with the young coaches and really just get
• 50:55
  Speaker 15: back to focusing on teaching and developing and what their
• 50:58
  Speaker 15: style can be. And then the player is of you know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 15: the fundamentals that are critical, Like we're gonna play with detail,
• 51:05
  Speaker 15: We're gonna play with technique, We're gonna play with fundamentals.
• 51:08
  Speaker 15: There's gonna be a brand of football that that everybody
• 51:11
  Speaker 15: associated with our with our team or fans is going
• 51:14
  Speaker 15: to be proud of.
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: Hi, Mike, welcome home. Oh thanks for taking questions.
• 51:21
  Speaker 21: You've got the number four draft pick you've got some
• 51:24
  Speaker 21: cap space. I assume mister Craft has told you the
• 51:27
  Speaker 21: checkbook is open. What are some of the top priorities
• 51:30
  Speaker 21: going forward for you to fill some holes on this team?
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: Well, I think that player acquisition.
• 51:35
  Speaker 15: I think you look at what's available in free agency
• 51:37
  Speaker 15: and what you can feel like you can sign and
• 51:41
  Speaker 15: then see where you come out of that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: But certainly you look at the teams that that are
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: able to you know.
• 51:48
  Speaker 15: Protect the quarterback and dictate the flow of the game offensively,
• 51:53
  Speaker 15: you know, making sure that upfront where we're sound, we're strong,
• 51:57
  Speaker 15: whether that's through free agency or through the draft. That's
• 52:00
  Speaker 15: something that's critical that the d linemen are just you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 15: they're they're getting better every year. They're getting more disruptive,
• 52:07
  Speaker 15: they're getting bigger, they're getting more powerful.
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 52:10
  Speaker 15: And so as they try to affect our quarterback, right,
• 52:14
  Speaker 15: we have to have some things.
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: That counterbalance that. Uh.
• 52:17
  Speaker 15: And obviously personnel is the first way, and then scheme
• 52:20
  Speaker 15: and style and tempo and cadence and all those things
• 52:23
  Speaker 15: that are play. If our players can handle it, you know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 15: then we'll shift, we'll motion, we'll go with different cadences,
• 52:29
  Speaker 15: we'll go on the ball, and you know, try to
• 52:31
  Speaker 15: do all those things that cause conflict, but it's going
• 52:34
  Speaker 15: to not be at.
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: The expense of the players.
• 52:37
  Speaker 15: And if the players can only handle a certain amount,
• 52:39
  Speaker 15: then that's what we're gonna do and we're gonna.
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: Get really good at it.
• 52:41
  Speaker 15: So we're we're going to try to just you know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 15: focus on on players that again we feel like fit
• 52:50
  Speaker 15: us and fit into what we're doing, that are willing
• 52:52
  Speaker 15: to commit to the team. And then also, you know, uh,
• 52:58
  Speaker 15: try to find players that will hold each other countable.
• 53:00
  Speaker 15: And we have to get to know each other. We
• 53:03
  Speaker 15: have to get you know, we got to peel some
• 53:04
  Speaker 15: layers back so that you can hold each other accountable, right,
• 53:08
  Speaker 15: because if you don't trust the guy next to you,
• 53:11
  Speaker 15: you don't believe in him, or you don't know anything
• 53:12
  Speaker 15: about his family or how he was raised, when you
• 53:16
  Speaker 15: hold him accountable, then there's you know, there's pushback, right.
• 53:20
  Speaker 15: And so what we're hoping to build is an environment,
• 53:23
  Speaker 15: uh that everyone respects everyone else, that that we take
• 53:27
  Speaker 15: time to to talk and ask and listen when when
• 53:32
  Speaker 15: somebody asks you a question, uh, that that you sit
• 53:35
  Speaker 15: there and you take time to answer and listen to him.
• 53:39
  Speaker 15: It's important and not just have a bunch of flybys
• 53:42
  Speaker 15: in the hallway and be like, Yo, how you doing,
• 53:44
  Speaker 15: and then keep it moving that Hey, you know how
• 53:47
  Speaker 15: you come out of that game, you know, I mean
• 53:49
  Speaker 15: you'res a little banged up, how you're feeling, But that
• 53:53
  Speaker 15: that takes time. You know, Those relationships take time, and
• 53:56
  Speaker 15: I'm excited to start start building them.
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: And Mike, welcome back.
• 54:03
  Speaker 22: Hey, understanding there will probably a significant amount of overlap.
• 54:07
  Speaker 22: How will your program here differ from the program you
• 54:11
  Speaker 22: played in and then obviously coached against later when Bill
• 54:14
  Speaker 22: was still here.
• 54:15
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean it's gonna be all different players, new players,
• 54:19
  Speaker 15: new coaches, some coaches that have remained, and people remember that,
• 54:24
  Speaker 15: like they're gonna be some things like I'm not Bill,
• 54:27
  Speaker 15: and I'm not Bill Cower.
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not anyone other than me.
• 54:31
  Speaker 15: And I've taken those experiences and I've tried to form
• 54:37
  Speaker 15: what I believe is critical to the success of a
• 54:40
  Speaker 15: football team and an organization. But you know, to say
• 54:46
  Speaker 15: what those are going to look like, hopefully just as
• 54:48
  Speaker 15: it's just as successful, you know, and our and our
• 54:51
  Speaker 15: goals will be to win the AFC East, to host
• 54:54
  Speaker 15: home playoff games, and to compete for championships like those.
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: That's what it's.
• 54:58
  Speaker 15: Gonna take and what the timeline is, just like we
• 55:01
  Speaker 15: say with injuries, like we're not going to put a
• 55:03
  Speaker 15: timeline on an injury, and we're certainly not going to
• 55:06
  Speaker 15: put a timeline on what those will be, but that
• 55:09
  Speaker 15: that's going to be the expectations, and we're going to
• 55:11
  Speaker 15: work like crazy, and we're going to compete like crazy.
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: We're going to give the players a plan.
• 55:16
  Speaker 15: And and and they're going to form an identity on
• 55:19
  Speaker 15: the field and the way that we're going to play
• 55:21
  Speaker 15: uh and play for each other that they're going to
• 55:24
  Speaker 15: be proud of. And we're not gonna you know, we
• 55:27
  Speaker 15: just want to be good enough to take advantage of
• 55:29
  Speaker 15: bad football. Like that's where we're going to start. And
• 55:33
  Speaker 15: that's what I've tried to tell all the players is
• 55:35
  Speaker 15: right now, I don't know if we're good enough to
• 55:38
  Speaker 15: take advantage of bad football. I'm not sure like we're
• 55:40
  Speaker 15: undefeated right now, but if we can just work towards
• 55:45
  Speaker 15: taking advantage of bad football and being good enough to
• 55:48
  Speaker 15: win somebody makes a mistake, capitalizing on it and not
• 55:51
  Speaker 15: being the ones that make them mistakes and focusing on
• 55:54
  Speaker 15: the little things and the details and helping them do
• 55:58
  Speaker 15: their job better.
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: That's great place to start. Welcome back, Mike, hy buddy,
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: you don't look much different. Yes, I do.
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 56:11
  Speaker 23: You mentioned you're not Bill. You had a special and
• 56:14
  Speaker 23: unique relationship with him. What does it mean to you,
• 56:17
  Speaker 23: if anything, to follow in his footsteps in this organization?
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 56:24
  Speaker 15: I mean, I think it is unique, obviously, Like let's
• 56:27
  Speaker 15: let's just be real for a minute and just say,
• 56:30
  Speaker 15: you know, having played for him, and you know, having
• 56:35
  Speaker 15: a competing against him, and then also having a friendship
• 56:40
  Speaker 15: with Bill right along the way. You know, I think
• 56:46
  Speaker 15: it's it's special. It's unique having played here knowing Bill.
• 56:51
  Speaker 15: But again, we have to focus on things that are
• 56:53
  Speaker 15: going to help us win now, help our players. Uh
• 56:58
  Speaker 15: And and like I said, galvanized the Bill voting and
• 57:00
  Speaker 15: the team.
• 57:01
  Speaker 8: And our fan base. So I think that there's also things.
• 57:05
  Speaker 15: I'm gonna try to explain to the players that there's
• 57:07
  Speaker 15: things that are interesting and there are things that are important.
• 57:10
  Speaker 15: I think me having played for Bill is interesting. I
• 57:13
  Speaker 15: just don't know if it's important to help in our players.
• 57:20
  Speaker 8: Mike, Welcome and congratulations.
• 57:23
  Speaker 24: You were the hottest name on the coaching cycle this
• 57:26
  Speaker 24: time around, presumably you had your pick of jobs. So
• 57:29
  Speaker 24: personally professionally, what really separated this choice among the others.
• 57:34
  Speaker 15: Well, I think that the ability to have open dialogue
• 57:38
  Speaker 15: with Robert and Jonathan was something that was critical.
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: Elliott and his staff.
• 57:44
  Speaker 15: Obviously, what I believe and what everybody else believes is
• 57:50
  Speaker 15: a as a young, dynamic quarterback. We have some youth
• 57:54
  Speaker 15: on the roster, We have some veteran players that have
• 57:57
  Speaker 15: kind of seen both sides of it and understand and
• 58:00
  Speaker 15: that will help me and will help our players, you know,
• 58:04
  Speaker 15: get back to that success and understand how hard it is.
• 58:09
  Speaker 15: I do think that we're getting a different style of player,
• 58:12
  Speaker 15: a different, you know, different player to the NFL, you know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 15: one that you know, sometimes guys played four or five
• 58:18
  Speaker 15: years in college in the same place under the same.
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: Coach, and.
• 58:23
  Speaker 15: We don't have a whole lot of behavior to change
• 58:25
  Speaker 15: when they when they got to our league. And I
• 58:26
  Speaker 15: think now with the NIL system that everyone is embracing
• 58:31
  Speaker 15: and I'm all in favor of, but sometimes those players
• 58:35
  Speaker 15: are at a school for six months and they may
• 58:37
  Speaker 15: go to another school and with another leadership style and
• 58:41
  Speaker 15: another structure, and so when they get to our league,
• 58:44
  Speaker 15: there's some behavior that may have to change and we
• 58:47
  Speaker 15: have to be willing to help.
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: Them change it.
• 58:50
  Speaker 15: And that's okay, Like, this is not an indictment on
• 58:54
  Speaker 15: the college football system. This is just you know, you
• 58:58
  Speaker 15: could go back and get a player from Malibyabama or
• 59:00
  Speaker 15: Ohio State or Notreed eight where they had been there
• 59:03
  Speaker 15: for four or five years, maybe they red shirted and
• 59:06
  Speaker 15: there was a consistent program and you felt comfortable.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: Adding that player.
• 59:11
  Speaker 15: Now, you know, like I say, car to keep traka
• 59:15
  Speaker 15: of where they went to school.
• 59:16
  Speaker 8: And so that's not easy.
• 59:19
  Speaker 15: But what we're willing to do to help those players
• 59:22
  Speaker 15: that need to have some of those things changed in
• 59:24
  Speaker 15: the commitment to the team, Like we're willing to do that.
• 59:29
  Speaker 18: Hey, Mike back middle here, Hey, welcome back, Thank you.
• 59:33
  Speaker 18: Looking forward to all our future and news conferences together.
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: There's going to be more, I think.
• 59:39
  Speaker 9: So.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: I think the league makes you do a few of them.
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: I hear they're fun too, Just curious.
• 59:44
  Speaker 18: One thing you've learned in your first experience from being
• 59:47
  Speaker 18: a head coach, so you want to make sure you
• 59:48
  Speaker 18: apply to your second time around.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: Oh, I mean I think there's so much. I think just.
• 59:56
  Speaker 15: This connection piece man getting to know these players, and
• 59:58
  Speaker 15: we're going to put so many points contact around our
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 15: players that I understand that I'm gonna have a different
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 15: relationship with some players.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: Than I do others. Right, I'm gonna have it.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 15: I'm gonna have a relationship with every single one of them.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 15: But then there's gonna be other ones that may may
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 15: not be as strong, but they're gonna be with the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 15: position coach.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: And you know, we're not gonna have a whole lot
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 8: of rules.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 15: We're gonna start with with being on time and being
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 15: respectful and being able to communicate like anybody else would
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 15: out outside this building if you were late for an appointment,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 15: if you had something going on.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 8: That we're going to have people.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 15: That are around the players for them to be able
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 15: to trust and say, hey, I've got this going on,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 15: and I've tried to do this in Tennessee that if
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 15: somebody walks in the door at seven forty five and
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 15: they just you know, there's there's something on their face
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 15: that they're they're wearing, something they're holding onto something that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 15: something's not right. I would rather give that player thirty
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 15: minutes or forty five minutes, whatever, however much amount of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 15: time that he needs to take care of a situation,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 15: then the seven hours that he's going to waste wearing
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 15: it through the day. And I want to provide as
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 15: many points of contact.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 8: With the players so that they feel comfortable.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 15: And if that's coming to me, great, If that's coming
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 15: to Elliott, great, if that's coming to our strength coach,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 15: or that's coming to our position coach, whoever that may be.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 15: I want them to have as many relationships in the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 15: building that they feel comfortable saying that you know, something's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 15: not right, or I need to communicate, or I'm going
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 15: to be fifteen minutes like whatever it is. So I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 15: think that that's critical that we teach them some of
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 15: those things that you know, there's more people that they
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 15: impact than just themselves.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: A lot of questions.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 25: You're bad, my congratulations, Thank you, you said at the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 25: beginning of the press conference, you knew in your soul
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 25: this was the place to be. Did you ever envision
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 25: yourself or dream about this moment here when you were
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 25: a player or even when you came back for the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 25: Hall of Fame induction, Did you ever dream about standing
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 25: up here as the head coach of the Patriots.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I think you know, I mean, I think,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 15: you know, probably more so when I started my coaching career, Like,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 15: I think it was important for me to to go
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 15: somewhere else to start another coaching journey. The opportunity at
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 15: one point was probably presented itself to be here at coaching,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 15: but I felt like it.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: Was important to to forge my own.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 15: Path somewhere else and if all those experiences led me
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 15: back here at the right time and the right opportunity,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 15: then that was going to be what was meant to be.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 15: And so But but not coaching, you know, I mean,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 15: not coaching the Tennessee Titans. That that was never something
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 15: that you know, took my time. But I think that
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 15: when I started my coaching career, I said, man, let's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 15: go and let's see where we can go and take
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 15: this and work with other people, and you know, if
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 15: the time's right to go back, then then it'll be.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: Then there'll be right time. Might congratulations.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: How would you describe what type of offense you want
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: to run and how does that tie to the traits
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: that you'll be looking for in a play caller?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I think that the offense again, we mentioned things
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 15: like aggressive but not reckless, right, We have to be
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 15: able to take chances. How do we create X plays
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 15: without just you know, having to throw the ball down
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 15: the field fifty yards and just sit there taking shots.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: Right? The creativity.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 15: You know we want we want to be I would
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 15: say versatile enough if the players can handle it, right,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 15: I want to you know, you look at zone scheme
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 15: in the run game, being able to run, you know,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 15: gap scheme to things that the defense may do, you know,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 15: be under center, being being the gun. You know whether
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 15: it's but it's also important to understand. You know, everybody
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 15: has access to this, and everybody has some experience with
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 15: different types of offense, but it's what the players can
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 15: get good at. How much can you reasonably do You
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 15: don't want to dab things and say we're going to
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 15: dabble in RPOs when the quarterback you know that's not
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 15: a strength it is. And then being able to read
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 15: and pull the ball and throw it. I mean, there's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 15: so much nickel pressure, right, how do you want to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 15: handle nickel pressure?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 15: All these answers and different things that defenses are doing,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 15: more split safety defenses, more simulated pressures, more disguised cover
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 15: two right, and then you know, being able to go
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 15: on the ball and try to be able to use
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 15: an offense that goes on the ball at times and
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 15: dictate tempo cadence. But again, it'll be based on what
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 15: the players can understand and what they can handle, and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 15: we're not going to you know, put things that make
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 15: them slow right that somebody told me a long time ago,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 15: you can't tell a difference between a player that's afraid
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 15: to do it or doesn't know how to do it right,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 15: And so they kind of just stand there with that look.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: And we're not going to stand you know, We're going
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 8: to be moving.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 15: We're going to demand effort and finish. Like people ask
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 15: what non negotiables are, work with our effort in our
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 15: finish is going to be the contract that we make
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 15: with with our teammates, and that'll be something that that'll be.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: My job to make sure.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 15: That's the greatest compliment that you could ever give a coach,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 15: by the way, not that he has great plays or
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 15: great blitz. It's, man, you guys, your players play their
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 15: ass off, and trust me, when somebody that's a respected
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 15: coach tells you that, you'll you'll you'll thank the players
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 15: and you'll you'll care about them and you'll do whatever
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 15: you can for him, because that's the greatest compliment that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 15: you could ever get.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: So time to get to work in good stays. Thank you.
• 1:05:58
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• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: All right, well we are back right from the Mike
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Rabel press conference. We hustled down Paul and I from
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: the Sports Illustrated Pavilion.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: Made me run to the press cor my niece.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: I thought we left early enough. We get up to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: the concourse and then there's this caravan of golf cars.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, they're They're already on their way. So, yeah,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: we were good.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: We got there at the beginning. Yeah, we timed it perfectly.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: We cut it all my self. Abel give us a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: look as we walked down the stairs, though he was
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: who's late.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: I'll take who's late.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I'll take your word for it based on what he said.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: If we had a good excuse, he probably.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: Would have given us.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: Yes, well, he saw the look on the face. He
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: needs a little time there.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: He is on ninety eight point five right now. But
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: so opening thoughts. I know we're going to get into
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: what our listeners have to say and hear what there react.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: But initial reaction just I.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: Think he's an experienced coach. It looked like, you know,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: he was in control, he knew, you know, what was
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: going to be asked and yeah, I mean, you know,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: a little coach speak. I think that's to be expected,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: you know what we're going to do. But you know,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: I think if you boil it down, a lot of
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: the same messages of getting to know the players, empowering
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: the players. But it just seems like an experienced guy
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: who knows what the deal is and knows how to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: go about it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, comfortable. I thought he was comfortable in the environment,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: which is to be expected a guy with with some experience.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: Thought it was a little low key, that was a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: little sort of understated.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: Compared to the last one.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: Now, I would say Mike and I were talking as
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: we were walking back over and I would say, you know,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: I'll take this over last year there were a lot
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: of things that we were all immediately looking at each
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: other like why do we say this, so, why do
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: we do that?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: Why are we talking about silos?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I'll take this sort of button
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: down like football approach back to me days. I mean,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: like I would say, Patriots Man's like boring is good,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: all is good, Like we're getting to work. We have
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: a lot of work to do, right, And I thought
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: Mike sort of conveyed that.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: I think in retrospect, last year felt a little bit
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: like ding dong the Witch is dead and.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: A little bit of celebration that were too much away
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: from Bill now, you know, and this just this felt
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: back to business for me. You know, a couple of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: things that stood out.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: I thought he you know, stressed the importance of offensive
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: line protection, liked him mentioned in the past game. I'm
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: sure Evan Evan Evan like at that particular moment. But
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: you know, I just think philosophically, he said some of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: the right things.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 10: Think.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: He said something like you have to be dynamic in
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: the passing game. And he also called his young efficient
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: in the passing game. He called his quarterback a young
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: dynamic quarterback. Yeah, that was the dynamic part.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: One of the one of the things that you know,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: excited him about the job, that led him, you know,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: why why he wanted this job, And it was one
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: of the things he mentioned.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: And it sounds like he's had, you know, pretty extensive
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: conversations at least over the weekend with Elliott.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, directly. I mean I think that's you know,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: one point. It sounds like a lot of things are
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: still in motion with this right now. It seems like,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: you know, even s what I was most surprised. Smattering
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: of coaches were there, so we did see some of
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: those people.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: There are a couple of players we saw, Joe Cardona.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: David Andrews. Yeah, that was another one I thought I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: saw him. So it seems like they're still figuring it out.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: But it does sound like he's already been in contact
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: with Elliott and that, you know, all signs are pointing
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: to that.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: He talked to a lot of players, he said already to,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: including Drake May when he was asked specifically about that.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: The one thing I would say that I really got
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: entirely wrong is I mentioned in our pre show before
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: the press conference, I thought we'd have a lot of
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: answers to some of these questions. We didn't get any
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: answers to any of those questions. And I don't think
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: Mike was being coy. I think there are still a
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: lot of things to be decided.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Even the Cowen question, he said, nothing's been settled.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah. The only thing I would take from it is
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: what Mike said about his He had several references to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: conversations with Elliott. My guess is Elliott's going to be
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: part of this at least in the short term. But
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: we had no real direction offensive or defensive coordinator, and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: no resolution is in terms of Brian Cowden.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so yep. But like Paul said, and you know,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming if you're watching this, you watch the press conference.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: It was low key compared to last year. Last year
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: was a lot more fanfare, a lot more fun. You know,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: this is all right, we got work to do. I'm
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: here to I was here to do a job, and
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: I've got a big one ahead of me, so let's
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: get to work.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: I think you just realized too how unique this day is.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: And this isn't really a day about football. This is
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: kind of a pomp and circumstance kind of let's introduce him.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: You know, maybe we would have liked to get in
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: some more answers than we got, but generally this is
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: just you know, this is such a unique part of
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: the year when it's like, all right, let's get to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: work down to business. Then we're gonna get into press
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: conferences and you know that's when it really starts to
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: you know, you start to really understand him. But I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: just impressed as always, you know, you know, the guy
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: who's experienced, thought it was good about talking about Cleveland,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: which you know, I think the inference we were talking
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: about that was like, well, Mike knew he didn't no
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: offense and needed to go there, and from his sounding,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: it sounded more like Kevin Stefanski kind of thought putting
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: a defensive coach on the offensive side of the ball
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: for a different perspective.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: So I agree that was that was a good little,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: a little good little.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: As a total aside, do you feel like Kevin Stefanski
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: is held in much higher regard within his peers and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: around the league than he is probably in the fans
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: by fans.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: Probably, yeah.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of people think very highly of
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they know the situation that he's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: been thrust into. He didn't sign that.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: Quarterback anyway, uh, you know. And more aside breaking news,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: I guess it looks like the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: are going to part ways.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: Oh, I did.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: He will not be he will not be signing an extension.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: I think Schefter had it.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, Florio had a story today. I don't
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: know if you saw it. I did not about one
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick and how people at U and C are
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: starting to get a little nervous because.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: He hasn't feel out his staff. Bill Belichick to Dallas.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: This is the staff, Well, this is it these six guys.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: I did think it was a little interesting. Somebody brought
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: up Bill Belichick at the press conference. You know, I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: forget exactly what what did you learn or what did
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: you take from him? And and while Vrabel you know,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: didn't completely dismiss it, he turned the focus of the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: answer more to let's let's look ahead. You know, he said,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: it's it's not important to the players that I played
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: for Bill Belichick might be interesting, but it's not important.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I thought Tiptoe, I think he was
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: just he was measured with the way he responded to that,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: and rightly so. I mean, I think there is still
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: an element too of respect for Gerrod and you know,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: just it's also fresh still that I think going into
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: this whole thing praising Bill would have just I felt
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: that would have been a little tone deaf. So I
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: thought he handled that, you know, pretty well. But you know,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: it's just it's hard. The guy's greatest coach of all time,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: and yeah, he's prickly and people have complicated relationships with him.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: But I think everybody knows that what Bill Belichick taught Mike,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: anyone who'll coach.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Under him, anyone who played under him, took something from him.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. But Rabel, you know, he's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: his own man.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: He wants make sure everyone knows that, you know, he's
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: his own guy. And yeah, he talked about his team
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: and he says, I want my players to be their
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: own I don't want them all to be like me,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: you know. I want them to all have their own things.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: And you know, they will have all stuff going on
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: off the field that if I know about those things
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: and I take an interest in those things, will build
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: that sort of accountability and trust amongst each other. And
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: we heard that from other people before he got here.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: I think Taylor that video that you were talking about,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: you know, he mentioned that like he'll he'll he'll work
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: with you if you have something going on outside the game.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: He'll work with you as long as you communicate well.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: And the other thing that always stood out to me,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: and I know that sometimes when we see these things
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: and these viral clips, there's a reason we see them,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: But that shot after the game where the center was
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: Ben Jones and Jones who clearly played through something a
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: little bit above and beyond what normal guys would play
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: normal bumps and bruises, and that reaction that Rabel had
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: to him after that game, I think that's the kind
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: of connection he tries to establish with his players.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Super emotional.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: I mean that you could feel it from from Rabel
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: like that, and I think him talking today, you can
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: kind of feel it's based on experience of working with
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: guys and working with players and knowing the complicated bits
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: that can come back. I think last year's press conference
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: felt a little bit more in theory and you know
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: how how I'd like to do it, but you just
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: feel I felt Rabel's experience kind of shine through a
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: lot of his answers, and you know, he just doesn't
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: tell he doesn't feel pressure from the questions.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: He's used to it.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, I loved how he called Karen out and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: you know, gave her a little a little compliment.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Everybody should have been the first one.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she should.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: She's been on this beat, I think longer than almost
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: anyone right now. All the lot of the old people
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: are gone, we don't count. Karen's been on this beat
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: longer than us.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: She was bruined when I started here.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: Well, she's been working in the definitely.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's had a like just and I know I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: say this all the time, a storied career. Yeah, she
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: is the best reporter in that room. I say this
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: to her. She gets mad at me. She's embarrassed, but
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: she is she isn't just in the ultimate professional.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think she's been covering sports for
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: a long time, probably longer than most people in that room.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: I would say, so.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so many old Patriots has so much respect for her,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: Like I've in fears and I mean you just you
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: see how all the players, coaches, they love her.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: Well. She has a great way about her. She goes
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: about her business in such a you know, and she's
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: not afraid to ask tough questions. It's not about sort
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: of being right positive all the time. It's being professional
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: all the time. It's a difference she.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: Seems to have a genuine curiosity, like that's you know
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: to me. You can tell some people are reading the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: tea leaves or what the story of the day is.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: And with Karen, I always feel like she's kind of
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: doing her own thing and asking good questions. But it's
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: not because she's fallowing the wind of what everybody else
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: is saying. It's it's what her perspective on the team is.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: So now my thing is I got to get very
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: able to be the keynote or at the coaches clinic
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: in March.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: I get my nephew there. Huh yeah, all signed up.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyler Perolo from Endicott coming over, signed up.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: He's going to the coach Well he's yeah, he's the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: tight Ends coach.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: He got the po school of time management all squared away.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: He knows how to use his timeouts and everything.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: It's an area that the head coach struggles in.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: Just let you know, okay, just to let you know.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Paul's made that known to Tyler.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: I got a little bit of a I got a
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: little bit of a problem.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: It was a packed room. All the seats were taken standing,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: Ramona behind and most of this staff, the current staff
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: were standing up behind the seats. I think everybody was
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: there as far as the support crew. You know, I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: don't know about assistant coaches.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: But we saw we saw Mike pellgre Tyler Hughes. You
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: saw the assistant offensive line coach, Robert Coogler there you go,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah him too.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: Elliott was there.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: Elliott, I saw Mac grow saw a couple of other
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: people in the personnel department.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: Saw Smitty Smitty.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: Cam Williams saw there.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Patrick Stewart was there.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: Was there?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, I think there was a pretty good mix.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: I didn't. I don't think there were as many unless
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: I mean just certainly possible. A lot of people were
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: sitting down and we were behind like the cameras. I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: didn't see a ton of players.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: Last year it seemed like there were more players around.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: But there were a couple of guys that I didn't know.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: I didn't recognize that I and frankly, they could be
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: players now, and I'm not in the locker room all
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: the time, so I wasn't sure they might be.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 8: Ye.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: So all right, now we can start yeah podcast at
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: Patriots dot com is the email address. The tpx hutline
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: is eighty five past five hundred Evans just getting here. Uh,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: your initial thoughts.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought a lot of football which was good
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 10: to hear, and obviously the focus on the trenches and
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: offensive line. I thought that showed pretty good understanding of
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 10: where things are at right now for the Patriots and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 10: what's going wrong. And I think the last thing that
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 10: stood out to me was the question when he was
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: asked what your role in Drake's development was gonna be.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 10: He had an answer right away, and I thought he
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: gave a great answer in terms of game management and
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 10: situational awareness. We all know Drake's extremely talented. We all
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 10: know that he's got all the ability in the world.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: But for them to win and lose football games here
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 10: and get on the right side of things, he's got
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: to learn that aspect of the game. And I felt
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 10: very brady to Bill to me, you know, in terms
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 10: of we're gonna sit down, we're gonna talk about, you know,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 10: what we're gonna do in certain situations, and how we're
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 10: gonna handle games and how we're gonna get it across
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: the finish line and things like that, And I thought
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 10: that was that was good to hear. That wasn't passing
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: the buck to the offensive coordinator whoever he ends up hiring.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 10: That was you know, this is going to be my
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 10: right and I like what he said.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: You know, our first step is to get to be
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: good enough to take advantage of bad football.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, I love that too.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: You know that was something I was thinking of as
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: I was, you know, just putting looking at the schedule
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: and realizing, I think the Patriots are gonna play I
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: believe it's seven or eight of the top ten picking
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: teams this year, so seven of the eight bottom the league.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: You're gonna play the worst teams in the league next year.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: So just be the best of the bad, you know,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: beat those teams that can't get out of their own way.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: I think it's a good it's a good first step.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: I think it's a good way to look at it.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: Yeap, what did you think about him talking about having
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: an efficient passing game?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Is that a does that say? Does that raise any
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: flags with you?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 10: Well, there's a difference between efficient and high volume, right,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 10: So I guess that depends on what your definition is
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 10: of that. In Tennessee, they were with Ryan Tannehill an
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 10: efficient passing game, but they just didn't a lot, So
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 10: can you be efficient with twenty twenty five attempts a game?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: And is that how he wants to play? I still
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 10: wonder about that aspect, but hearing him talking about protecting
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 10: the quarterback affecting the quarterback on defense, that to me
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 10: showed that he knows that this is about the passing
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 10: game and building through the offense.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: And you look at like just the weekend's games and
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: the winning teams. I could have a counter argument to this,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: but the winning teams all through the ball, like twenty
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: five times. I think Josh Allen had twenty six. I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: think Lamar Jackson had twenty one. I think Jalen Hurts
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: had twenty four. Like, the teams that won the games
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: kind of ran the ball very effectively. And then my
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: argument would be and therefore kept the opponent in the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: game for longer than they should have been, because I
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: thought especially Baltimore and Buffalo completely dominated their games. But
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: there's three minutes left in the third quarter and Buffalo's
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: up thirteen to seven. The game wasn't competitive to that point,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: and they're only up thirty team to seven, and Josh
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: Allen does a couple of Josh Allen Things makes a
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: couple of throws and the game's over. But I think
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: you need to be really efficient if you're going to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: throw it that infrequently. And those teams were, I mean
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: they made, you know, Lamar open the scoring with a
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: great touchdown pass to Bateman, great throw coming across the
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: back line of the end zone. So I think there's
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: an argument to me made both sides. You know, efficiency
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: works in the passing game, not volume. But I would
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: argue that it's kind of hard to put teams away
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: that way.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: You have to be sure of who your team is
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: and how they're playing that day and how the game
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: declares itself. All right, let's get to the phones. Let's
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: get your reaction TPX outline A five to five pass,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: five hundred. Christian's been on the line for about an
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: hour and a half. So what's up, Christian?
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  Speaker 26: Hey you guys, well, just recovering from the wildfires here
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 26: in LA.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: How are you doing personally?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 26: You okay, Yeah, my mind's a little a little freed
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 26: out out here. Everyone's just just devastated emotionally. We were
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 26: I don't know, I mean, I know it's just prayers
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 26: and blessings, but amongst all the damage of fifty three
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 26: hundred homes. We live in the Palisades, and we were
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 26: one of the houses on the on the edge of
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 26: the fire that was spared. So we're trying to figure
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 26: out ways to turn that blessing around to other people.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 26: But but that's yeah, that's that's that's the stuff here
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 26: football wise, guys, I know you guys are are very
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 26: enamorous with Brabel, but and I don't want to prove
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 26: pool it. I just want to say this. It just
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 26: seems like we are still trying to hold on to
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 26: the glory days, remnants of the dynasty, and even braveelhom
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 26: said himself said getting back to winning waste. I don't
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 26: want to go back to anything. I want to move
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 26: forward to the new era of how to win in
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 26: the modern game. That's advancing faster than it seems like
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 26: our philosophies trying to adjust to it. I know, you know,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 26: he's a defensive minded, run first guy. He had Derreck Henry.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 26: We don't, so I'm just a little bit I'm wary.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 26: I'm not I'm not poo pooving him. I love Mike
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 26: Brabell that he comes with a foundational knowledge of the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 26: game with a full complement of team. You know, how
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 26: to build a team or organizational skills. But what I
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 26: did not hear and what I think, like you guys said,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 26: I don't really see a vision for the offense. I know, Yeah,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 26: everybody wants to have an efficient path and game. What
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 26: is his vision for today's offense? Not what we used
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 26: to do or how he used to do it or
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 26: how he did it with Tennessee with a Hall of
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 26: Fame running back and a middling quarterback? What are we
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 26: going to do to move forward? Do you guys have
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 26: any ideas about Rable with moving forward into the new
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 26: offensive philosophies that are I wanted a tight pants guy.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my idea is that he's smart enough
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: to know what he doesn't know, to hire good people,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: like he said, and surround Drake May with the best
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: people possible. He knows, he said it. He knows he's
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: got a dynamic quarterback. To me, that means a guy
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: who can do a lot of different things with his
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: arm and his legs. And Vrabel's smart enough to know
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to have an offense to take advantage
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: of that. Yeah, he knows. He doesn't have Derrick Henry. Yeah,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: you know, so, I like, if he thinks he's gonna
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: do exactly what he did in Tennessee, then then we
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: got problems. Every team's going to be different. But I
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: think he's smart enough to know that.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 26: Can I ask you guys one question? What was his
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 26: drafting record? Like with him and his I know he
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 26: didn't person do the drafting, or maybe he did, but
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 26: what was his drafting record with the picks that he
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 26: made or under his regime? How much success did he
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 26: have with that with wide receivers or anything of that nature.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: Do you guys know, pretty pretty good? I mean, he's
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: a little uneven, but you know, Aj Brown and Justin Simmons,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: they drafted some good players. They weren't all home Carol
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: Landry another good draft pick they had.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, they were. They started on a heater, I
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 10: feel like, and then they kind of tempered off towards
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 10: the end, which is what often happens.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I'm sure there's stories there because as
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: we know, there was some division between him and personnel
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: and there was a battle for control that he ended
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: up winning, and then eventually it might have cost him
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: his job because of how he brushed people the wrong
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: way there.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 26: That's what scares me, right, Like, did he make the
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 26: decision to trade aj Brown?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: He was against them, He was against that.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the beginnings of the end
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: for him. I think.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, it caused a huge rift between he and
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: John Robinson at the time, and it looked like he
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: was winning that power struggle. But in retrospect, I think
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: it ended up being detrimental to everybody because number one,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: they tried to replace him with Traylon Burke's which didn't
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: work because obviously one guy can play and one guy can't.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: So you know, to Evan's point, they were on a
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: heater a little bit in the draft, and then not
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: so much. And then I think when he came here
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: for his Hall of Fame ceremony, that did not sit
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: well with people in Tennessee. Yeah, and I think that
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: led to his ouster.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, Christian, I mean, okay, go ahead, you held
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: out for a long time. One more question was over
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: and now yeah.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 26: Yeah, how many defensive minded coaches have ever built really
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 26: successful offense is in their.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: REGIMEE Well, it depends what you define as really special.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think Houston was pretty good offense. I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: think when Houston was was when healthy. I think they
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: have a pretty good offense. And that's I'm trying to
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: be modern. I'm not trying to go back to like
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: two thousand and seven.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: Has a pretty good offense.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 10: Defensive that's good. That's a good one. That's a good
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 10: bring up, you know. I think the Texans currently, I
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 10: think that's what you're talking about with Bobby Slowank and CJ.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 10: Strouder or in a good spot. But all of his concerns, Christian,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 10: all your concerns about the offense or everything that we
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 10: brought up last week when this was all being rumored
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 10: express to happen. And I think the one thing that
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 10: he said today was we got to find out what
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 10: our players can execute.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 10: It would be great for him to come up there
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 10: and say, oh, we're going to be, you know, an
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 10: outside zone based scheme, or we're going to be a
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 10: spread based scheme or whatever the case may be. But
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 10: they might not have the horses to run that kind
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 10: of offense. So he said he wants to be versatile,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 10: you know, and he wants to be creative offensively and
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 10: be able to do a bunch of different things. But
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 10: he brought up r pos, Like, if our quarterback isn't
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 10: good at r pos, then we can't run RPOs. Right,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 10: So he said, the gap you means drake. Drake's okay, bike,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 10: give me more, give me more nickel pressure. Like that
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 10: was a good one. Yeah, But like they we'll see,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 10: like we'll see what we'll kind of figure out. I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 10: think what kind of offense they want to build based
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 10: off of their personnel moves, based off of their actions,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 10: you know what what is that? But they put together
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 10: right now, they don't have an offense, so it's hard
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 10: to say what they're gonna right.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have a coordinator, he doesn't have an offense yet,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: so it's a little early for those detailed questions. And listen,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: even when he has them, he's not going to just
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: give it all away.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: He wants to have some element of surprise for the opponent.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: So but again I go back to football IQ. We
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: know he's got it. He's demonstrated that as a player,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: he's demonstrated that as a coach, so he's he's I
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: think he knows you have to adapt, h and you
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: have to adapt around your personnel. Uh so, you know,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: right now it's roster building time. You know, it's we
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: got to get this roster together. I would hope that
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: before they get too into that, they do have an
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: OC picked so that OC can be part of that process,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: because I think that's important.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like the next deadline is mobile, right, like, yeah,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 10: you have to you want to probably have your staff
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 10: in place by the time the Senior Bowl in the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 10: Shrine and then the Combine obviously next month starts to roll,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 10: because that's when you're going to have the most opportunity
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 10: to get to know these kids that are coming into
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 10: the draft.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: Yep, let's go back to the TPX cut line Patty's
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: and agawan. What's up Patty?
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 11: So guys can hear me?
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, yep, Matt, you want to turn that up a
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: little just yeah, that's good.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 8: Thanks.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 27: So my question is regarding the staff, like, if he
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 27: has a staff built up, can he just bring them
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 27: in or does he have to just bring in his
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 27: like all the positional guys and interview for all the coordinators.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 27: Then I'll take it off there, guys.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: So that's a good question. I mean, in terms of
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: hiring coordinators, what is that. What are the rules around.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 10: That Rooney rule? Yeah, so if you open up a
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 10: search for offensive and defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator outside
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 10: the building. So let's just say they're not retaining Alex
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 10: van Pelt and they're going to go in a different direction,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 10: then they have to adhere to a hiring process. So
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 10: you got to go through the Rooney rule and you
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 10: have to interview minority candidates and the whole thing. So
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 10: it could be that part of it could probably be
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: a little bit longer than this part of it was
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 10: in that respect.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, although Pep Hamilton and Byron Leftwich, maybe they doubled up,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: maybe they already interviewed them as OC's.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think that's something we should be joking about.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: To Rabel worked with Pep Hamilton at Texas? Didn't he
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: at the Texans? Were they together there?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 10: I don't believe.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: So, No, they didn't cross.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 10: Now, Pep Hamilton came in the regime after Bill O'Brien. Okay,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 10: David Culley, all.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: Right, let's go to who do we have Ray in Atlanta?
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 8: Ray?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 9: Hey?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: Guys doing the Okay.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 9: Hey, I'm excited of the press conference. Definitely. I'm definitely
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 9: a good spirits. I'm real positive and optimistic about Rabel
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 9: being our coach. I know, I have a feeling. Matter
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 9: of fact, I know that we don't be balling out
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 9: next year. Ain't no way. We have Rabel and we're
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 9: not gonna all out next year. Look at what he is.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 9: He's a great coach. Understand, he's not Belichick, He's not this,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 9: he's not that he is. He's Bravo. He's his own man,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: his own person, his own coach, and no one will
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 9: ever be Belichick. You know that that's even done comparing
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 9: them too. You know he can only be himself, which
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 9: is a great coach, and with his knowledge of the game,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 9: he's gonna make sure that the offense and the defense
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 9: is up the par and doing what they need to do,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 9: you know, beyond doing your job. You know, execute, execute, execute.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 9: So I take Rabol coach Rabel on face value. I
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 9: know we're gonna I know we're gonna be better than
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 9: the two years prior. I know that for a fact,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 9: this for face value of who he is and what
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 9: he and what he had done as a coach, let
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 9: alone as a player. Back in the days when I
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 9: was watching. So I look forward to this. I know
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 9: a lot of Patriotis and and media people, you know
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 9: that they're happy about this. You know this, this this
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 9: is a breath of fresh air, you know. And what
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 9: like I said, we're gonna be bumping out next year.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 9: I guarantee it. I guarantee it, you know, and it's
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 9: gonna be fun, it's gonna be exciting. I don't have
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 9: no nothing to worry about. I just want to see
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 9: how everything na bods, the draft, the different players. We
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 9: know that we have to mix modern with the ancient,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 9: meaning the old man's knowledge has to keep up with
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 9: this young man's game. You know, the new techniques, the
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 9: you know, not the pocket but the passing, the running,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 9: everything everything is young now, so you know the knowledge
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 9: of the games twenty years and back for where was
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 9: born I was, but I'm also even an eye on
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 9: the modern plays as games and techniques and and just
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 9: you know how it's a new game. It's it's a
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 9: new day, a new game for that players, NFL football,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 9: And so like I said, we don't be balling out.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 9: I trust them and and people who's gonna have to
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 9: wait to see. I know it's new when people get
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 9: to go in you know whatever.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: But oh, sorry about that, I hit the button. Sorry,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: but I get it. I mean Ray Ray believe that
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: he's gonna get these guys playing hard for him. He
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: has typically and that's the kind of player he wants,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: is guys who just give it all out on the field,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: uh and are accountable. But it is a good point.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: The game is evolving, it is changing, and Rabel brought
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: it up. The ni L guys come, they've been through
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: maybe many you know, systems, many coaches before they even
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: get to the NFL, and you know, they're taking a
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: little bit from all of that and you've got to
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: understand who these guys are, get to know them, and
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: it's it's a challenge, but I think he realizes that
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: that the game is evolving in terms of the types
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: of players that you're getting from college. You know, they
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: come a lot with you know, very hefty bank accounts.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: So different, different packaging than last year.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: But both coaches I think have stressed the need for
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: now that you have to connect with these players.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: You have to know them on a personal level.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: Like he said that they're going to come into the
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: facility with something on their mind that you know, you
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: need to be able to understand that that there are.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: Other things besides football.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: And you know, that's the message that I think, you know,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: we do through levels and grenades at Bill and then
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: I think that's one of the things that you know,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: generally players felt like that. You know, he didn't know
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 6: those guys that well, and that's something that modern coaches
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: need to do, make that connection with their players.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: And he's going to try to make that connection. But
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: make no mistake, he's going to be demanding, like, Okay,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: I'm going to get to know you and I'm hearing you,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: but in return, I need you to go out there
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: and give it all, you know, And as Ray said,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: ball out for me. Yeah, those are the types of
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: players that are gonna, you know, be his favorite students.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: It was kind of the point I made at the top,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: and like there are certain like anybody who played in
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: the league I think has an innate respect from players,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: but like to've played at that level and to won
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: multiple Super Bowls and like I said, like play both
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: sides of the ball, to catch ten touchdowns is as
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: an outside linebacker.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: And you know, as Mike.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: Himself highlighted a player who didn't start for four years
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: and was kind of behind the scenes and was, you know,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: one of those middle fifty three guys, and then became
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 6: a superstar and you know, and then you know, went
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: and was a veteran and a mentor.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: He's had a wide range.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: Of experiences, not only a player, but as a coach too,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: And I think that's just you know, you just I
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: don't know, as a player, you look to him and
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: be like, man, what can't this guy do?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: He knows this game inside and out. He played both
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: sides of the ball. He made big plays on both
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: sides of the ball and the biggest moments. It's just
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: I think there's just an immediate, huge amount of resps
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: that guys that from my favorite.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: So I just got word that UH head coach Mike
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: Grabel will be joining us. They're just getting something to
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: eat right now. So when he does come, you, being
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: lowest in the totem pole, you can you can stay
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: in the room, stand behind us or something.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: Don't look at don't even look.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 10: I want to.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: Introduce him to you because I want him to know
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: that you're on the offense. I'm gonna I'm going to
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: introduce you as our resident and savant.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 10: And I'm gonna tell you.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: That not do that because he'll remember it and he'll
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: bust know.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: But he'll remember it.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: They don't want that, Yes we do.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: We want him to know us, Paul. We have things
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: going on off and I want him to know Evan.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 10: To ye, I wanted to know me to just not.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: From but just so just so hard so because he'll
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: take he'll take that seat. So camera operators, so that
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: you know that he'll sit where Evan is sitting. And
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: Evan you can as long as you're not in front
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: of a camera. You can stand next to Deuce er,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: behind me or whatever.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 10: In the corner.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: Nobody puts baby in a corner.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: All right, Let's get to the phones while we wait
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: for a head coach, Mike Rabel, Damon's and Marylyn. What's
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: up Damon?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 11: How the go?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: Hey?
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: So quick question?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 27: So I know the past had their eye on Vaybel
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 27: for a while as the guy they brought it in left,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 27: which for the Rooney rule, but I wanted to ask.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 28: I guess potential complications for that for the Patriots in
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 28: the league.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 27: If you have a.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 28: Set guide that you're interested in, but you have to
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 28: satisfy the rule, but the minority invice that they don't
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 28: seem like just a formality or sham, either at the
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 28: eighth head coach level or at the coordinator level. How
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 28: does that kind of impact, you know, the league going forward?
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 28: If there's a set guy you have in mind, like
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 28: a Ben Johnson going forward for a lot of teams,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 28: but you have to give legitimate use to minority candidates.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, you saw it. You saw what happened this time.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: They knew they wanted for able, but they had to
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: satisfy the rule. Did they satisfy the spirit of the rule?
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: Probably not, but they weren't the first team to have
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: done that, to do those interviews just to satisfy the rule.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: You know, it's hard. It's happened since the beginning of
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: the Rooney rule. The Rooney rule probably needs to be tweaked,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: if not gotten rid of, but at least tweaked because
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: it's not fair to both sides.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: It's well intentioned, but it's hard to execute in practice.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: I think, because I think it's only natural that teams
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: have an idea of dear leading candidates. You know, anytime
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: that you have a job opening, how often do you
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: go into it and say, boy, I have absolutely no idea.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: It's not like real life. It's not applying for a
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: job and you're one of fifty in friend's looking at
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: the resumes and somehow picks Mike, Like, I don't know,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: how does that happen? You know, no, nothing, no, nothing,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: because of the you're not playing today, We're not playing.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 14: No.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: But it's not like real life where you're just blindly
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: interviewing fifty guys and then one guy stands out this
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: is you have an idea of who you want. I
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: understand why it exists. I think you're right, Fred, I
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: think it probably needs to be tweaked in some way
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: or maybe even limit.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: Maybe there's a better way to just expose owners to
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: all potential coaches, regardless of skin color. But I'm sure
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of coaches that are younger or you know,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: just aren't on teams that get all the notoriety, that
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: are probably like hidden gems that owners don't know about,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: forget about you know, who they are, what they look like.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 4: Maybe there's a way to better expose these guys in
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: the off season to teams. I don't know, I don't know.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they do have some like good conferences things like that.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 10: But I think the hard part is with this situation
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 10: is he's he was a hot commodity, and so you
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 10: had multiple teams that were interested in viewing interviewing Mike
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 10: rabel Uh. We found out today during the press conference
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 10: that Mike McCarthy is not going to go back to
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 10: the Cowboys. What happens if you know a team loses
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 10: early in the playoffs that's expecting a deep run eny
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 10: blow out their head coach, a playoff team does so
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 10: if you're the Patriots, if you don't move quickly on
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 10: this situation, you're the bell of the ball right now,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 10: right you have may you have one hundred and thirty
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 10: million dollars in cap space, and overnight you can just
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 10: become another job. And so they moved quickly on their guy,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 10: and he's such a qualified candidate that I just have
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 10: a real tough time being super angry about it because
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 10: it's it's not like you gave the job to somebody
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 10: that wasn't quite nice.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: I know that people said as for like two weeks
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: that this has been a done deal. But you know,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: a new team on the block, like the Cowboys or
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: you know the Raiders, you know, when they just fired
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: their head coach last week, what if they came in
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: at the last minute and just gave him the world
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: and made him a deal that he just couldn't refuse
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 4: for himself and his family. I gotta admit I was
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: starting to get a little worried about that over the weekend,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: you know, and that was they were up against that.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: So you can't fault a team for knowing what they
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: want to do and then going and doing it. And
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: you know, in this case, it was Mike Vrabel. He's
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: a good coach, he's familiar with the team, he's familiar
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: with the area. It just made too much sense.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 6: I kind of wonder about John Harball when that process
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 6: happened with the Ravens as because he was a special
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 6: teams coordinator.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: Right, like, like, how did that happen? You know, that's
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: kind of a unique leap, and that doesn't happen he.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: Spent one year. I think that was kind of like
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: to get to the head coach level, as like in
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 5: a position coach, I think I want to say wide receivers,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: but don't hold me to that. And I think Bill
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: Belichick was instrumental in getting him at that job because
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: of his connection with I think ozzieknews him at the time. Yeah,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: with the Ravens, and that was a big his recommendation
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: was a big part of that.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: Thanks for the call, Damon. We'll go down to Arkansas.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: What's up, Jay, Jay?
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 26: Hey gurning guys.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, we can what's going on over there? You
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: are you changing a tire? What are you doing?
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 29: Let me let me change mind?
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: All right, that's much better. I didn't do that. I
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: didn't do that. While is getting to get his act together.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: We'll go to Delaware, Rodney. What's up, Rodney?
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 15: Hey, guys, how are you doing good?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 29: Yeah?
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 9: So I was just calling because I was, like, you know,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 9: I wasn't. I was against the Mike Braver hired at first.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 9: But now just listening to his speech, I'm just happy that,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 9: you know, I think he's I think we're going to
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 9: get us back to like the physical football.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 26: That's what I just.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 9: Want back to, you know, physical Patriot football.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 27: Thanks gosh.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: Okay, Rodney thinks physicality is coming back to New England.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 3: Smash mouths definitely listen. I didn't.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think the Patriots have even last year. Weren't physical.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: I think they I don't think they lack the effort
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: wasn't it was there. Yeah, this is a talent thing,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: so let's be physical, but us also be talented.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 10: You know, that's fair. But I think effort and finish
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 10: for like the two things that he said are going
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 10: to be no negotiables among other things.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 10: And defensively, Like that's a lot of defense is effort
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 10: and finish. You know, you can if you can get
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 10: to a baseline of that defensively, then you can be
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 10: like an above average defense simply just off of effort
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 10: and finish and being prepared.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: And I to that wrinkles, you know, like like Bill
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: always did. Whereas the defense will look better than it
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 5: probably is because they'll be able to limit the damage.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: You know. One of the things that I bitched about
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: all year was it seems whenever they got off to
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: a bad start defensively, they were going to have a
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: bad game defensively because they weren't gonna be able to adjust.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: I think Rabel will be able to adjust.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So we're uh in the process of waiting
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: for head coach Mike Rabel. From what I understand, they
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: went to get a bite of you.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: Do you think bring food for the show? I think
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: he should, right, maybe a little chicken parm like.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: You know, it's not that because I think he needs
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: to ingratiate himself with us, don't you think, Well.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: If he wants to succeed, he had no where to stop,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: needs crew on your side, walking with pizza pizza time.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: It's like, hey, Paul, tell him about this.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you've heard of this play.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: I've heard him.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 4: Uh, Jay's back on the line in Arkansas. What's up? Jay?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 29: Hey, guys start about the audio there. Hey the caller
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 29: one or two before. Uh, you guys got just talking
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 29: about the process. And that's that's just what I had
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 29: a couple of comments on. I was just gonna throw in,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 29: you know, and I'd love to hear you guys just
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 29: talk about the broader, you know, impact of the local
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 29: media there at some point in the office. Maybe it's
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 29: for a good slow day, who knows, But you know,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 29: I just really didn't appreciate from the get go. I
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 29: think it was Albert Breer I heard first call this
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 29: a sham process. Uh, And then of course it sort
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 29: of catches some steam and other people use that word.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 29: I'm with you, guys, just like, what do you expect
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 29: them to do? How many interview processes you know, in
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 29: in the rest of the UH, in the rest of
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 29: the world. Do you not already have a little bit
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 29: of an idea who you want to go after? And
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 29: so they followed the rule as it's laid out to
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 29: be followed. And you know, if they had waited around
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 29: and not gotten vrabel, they would have been crucified by
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 29: the same people who were, you know, criticizing them for
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 29: the for the process they went through. I don't know
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 29: what else they're supposed to do. I'd like to hear
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 29: from you guys. Another thing that I often hear people
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 29: talk about, but would like to know if it's actually
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 29: if it actually happens, This idea of having all these
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 29: interviews to gather intel and to gather you know, ideas
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 29: and things like that. I mean, do we really know
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 29: that other teams have done and.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 8: To do that?
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 29: You know, would would Robert and Jonathan Craft and you
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 29: know a couple of others be adept enough to say,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 29: you know, hey, Mike, we heard from this candidate over
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 29: here about how they run the UH. You know, they're
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 29: you know, shotgun formations. You know, we'd like to you
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 29: to incorporate that into your your offense. You know what
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 29: you know, is that really a thing or is that
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 29: just a thing that's a nice talking point for everybody.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: Anyway, I think it's really a thing. Have you ever
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: talked to anybody and have them, okay, have them tell
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: you something that you didn't know?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: I have, Yeah, a lot. Absolutely.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: You know. I'd like to think I'm learning all the time,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: and I think that those are opportunities to learn stuff.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: I think Jay was sort of taking it super literally,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: like you talk to someone and then you tell Mike
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: this is what you need. No, I think it can
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: be as simple as let's go to Byron Leftwich. Okay,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: maybe you have you sit him down and this guy
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: really impresses you and you're like, wow, this guy is
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 5: a very bright offensive mind. He's creative. Hey, if we
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: need an offensive coordinator this, we could do worse than this,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 5: or down the road if it doesn't work out with
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: Mike Rabel, I think we could do a lot worse
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: than Byron Leftwich getting a head coaching opportunity. Again, I'm
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: just using That's how it works. You generate like sort
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: of a rolodex of information. It's not tangible like Evan's
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: coming up with, you know, creative sale routes that that
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: are gonna get you know, what's perfect against Tennessee's defense. Like,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 5: that's not how That's not what we're talking about. We're
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 5: talking about relationships in philosophy, philosophy and figuring out how
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 5: other organizations do their business. And they say, wow, we
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: don't do it that way. How do you do analytics?
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: How do you incorporate your analytics into your real life
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: football operation? Oh, we do it this way. Well, you
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: guys do it that. Wow, I never thought of that.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: That might be an interesting Maybe we can change some
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: of the things.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 10: That we do.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: It's not really specific because I think that would be
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: kind of proprietary information. It's relationships and philosophies, and I
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 5: think by not talking to as many people as you can,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: you close off opportunities.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 10: That's all is at the end of the world.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: Now, absolutely not. They had a guy they identified to
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: your point, Fred, maybe they feared that they were going
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: to lose him if they dragged their feet at all.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: I don't think that was an option, especially based on
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: Ian Rappaport over the weekend, saying he told Tom Brady, Yeah,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: I don't worry about it. Yeah, I'm not going anywhere.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: I'm going to the Patriots. Yeah, but the Patriots might
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: not want to take that chance knowing it, so they went.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 5: They identified the guy they wanted, they got them. I
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 5: have no issues with that, but I do understand the
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: counter of not holding interviews deprives you of opportunities.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 10: That's all.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know what, how much, how important, but opportunities.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 5: It's true like the Chargers did last year famously with
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh. They identified him right off the top, he
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: was their guy, and they still interviewed twelve guys. Now
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: you might say, well, they didn't know for sure if
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: they were going to get Jim Harbaugh, so they had
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: to keep interviewing people. That might be true, because I
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: think Hardball was kind of playing hardball with them a
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: little bit last year.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: I just think keep doing it now.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 6: This is the time too, with offensive coaches defensive coaches,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 6: you know, find who those young hotshots are behind the scenes.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 6: This is I mean, you know, maybe they're not going
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: to come in and tell you how to change your program,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: but there might be some young guys who you know
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 6: from experience being around the league of this guy's a young,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: smart guy, like he's headed places.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: And you know he might be in between a job.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: Go get him. Those kind of guys.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: Well, even if you're asking like how many how many
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: guys did Mike Rabel mention today that he learned from?
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: So maybe you're talking to someone and they're telling you
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: all these guys they learned from what I one of
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: those guys sort of spark something in your mind, you know,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: five minutes okay, and you can get you know, so
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: you get to talk to a guy and he knows
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: this other guy who learned a lot from Maybe I
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: might talk to that guy. You know, like there's a
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: million different ways you can get an avenue to information.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agreed, And that's that's another by product, a
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 4: good bye product of the ruty rule is just that
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: exposure to new ideas, exposure to new people. And I think,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: you know, Evan said it, I think this process of
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: the O C and d C is going to take
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: longer than the head coach. I think they might slow
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: this one down a little bit to to get more.
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  Speaker 10: People right to the fire.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: Right now, I want to know it.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: But you know, let's not I don't want to ask
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 4: the same questions that we're asked up there. I want to,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: you know, ask other things.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 5: I'm sure that you'll ask.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: You can ask the first question.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, you're you're the boss man. The reason
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: why it's his boss man on your on your tiron
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 5: up there? All right, bossman.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll keep going if I if if Rabel walks in,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: you know, and I have to cut you off, don't
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: take it personally. Uh. Donovan from Delaware has already hung up. Uh,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: So we'll go to New York where Andre is calling from.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: What's up Andre?
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 27: Hey, Hill, let's tell you're doing good.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 30: I had a quick question I wanted to ask. I
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 30: know we're still early in the off season, but I
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 30: had a question about the draft. I know that obviously
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 30: it matters what we get in the free agency, but
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 30: I wanted to know what you guys think we should
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 30: get out of a Duke Carter McMillan or an offensive lineman.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: Well, there's another guy that I've been intrigued with a
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: little bit.
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  Speaker 3: How did you know how did you know defensive linement?
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 5: Well strikes me as a Fred kirsch Kind of guy.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: Well, no, but Mason Graham is an interior linement from.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: Michigan defensive lineman.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 4: Defensive lineman, right, and uh, from what I understand, he's
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: he's got this suddenness to his game.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: He's player.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like he can impact you know, the rush from inside.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: He's that quick. And I'm worried about Barmore.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: Michigan won a handful of games with absolutely no offense
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: to speak of, and the reason they did that is
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: guys like Mason g Yeah.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: So, and I'm worried about Barmore if he doesn't come back.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: And if he does come back, imagine teaming him up
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: with Mason Graham.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 5: I just think it's and I know I've said this
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 5: a million times. They can literally pick anything they need
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: to pick the best player, and I wouldn't. And if
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: they think that Mason Graham is that much better than
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: anybody else by all means, I just think that would
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: be less less of indeed than oh, yeah, wide receiver
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 5: tackle A need they need defensive tackles. I would not
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 5: sit here and say what do they do when they
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 5: picked a guard? No, they need they need a good
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: defensive tackle. And he's a good player, ye By all accounts,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: he's top five pick, top five talent anyway.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: But Abdual card is intriguing as well, you know, because
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: he's got that special motor on the edge, and.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: I like me so I thought he was really impressive
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: in that he's not getting the four. That's what I'm
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: worried about.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: How okay, thanks Andre, Yeah.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 6: I just I said to Paul, you know, generally speaking,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 6: there's five main positions that you feel like you need
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 6: right like quarterback, left tackle, wide receiver, elite corner, elite
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 6: edge rusher, big five. Everybody wants that elite tackle right now. Well,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 6: if it's not there, then you might be able to
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: get the defensive end with Abdual Carter. That might be
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 6: the guy at the top that you just look, You're
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 6: gonna have to figure it out. Maybe by the time
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: you get there, you have some options on offensive line.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: I think we spent so much time focusing on tackle
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: and wide receiver, which granted those are two of the
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 6: other open spots, but do either one of those one
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 6: makes sense at four.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 5: I kind of think I'd agree with Mike. I think
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: there's a gap between you a guy Mason Graham and
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: Abdull Carter and McMillan, you know, in Banks or Campbell. Well,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: I think the defensive end and tackle of better players
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: than the wide receiver offensive.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 6: And just what Rabel said, I mean, that was part
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: of we talked about the passing game. He talked about
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 6: being able to affect the passer, you know, so that's
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 6: a big part of it.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: That's a big part of it.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 6: So you have a chance to get somebody like Abdul Carter,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 6: who is going to be entrant in like instant rocket
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 6: fuel for your pass.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: Rush, then you know, I think you got to get him.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if he's making.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: Moose for Brian's and Holbrook. Hey Brian, Hi, how.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 29: Are you guys doing?
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 11: Sorry, I just was curious how m no.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 30: Reporter uh, when Rabel was doing the introduction press conference
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 30: asked him if he will have final call or who
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 30: will have final call?
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: That was like the first question that Tom Curran asked it.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah he did, Yeah, he was kind of he was
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: kind of noncommittal about the answer, which kind of worries
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: me a little bit.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 4: Not gonna lie, well, I don't think he wants to
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 4: get up there with people in the room and start
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: throwing things around he made me feel better. Yeah, I
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: think he's being a little bit diplomatic there, and but
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: I I would I would venture to guess that that's
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: going to be talked about.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 5: And I think that, you know, if it hasn't been determined, if.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: The reports are true that he's bringing in this guy
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: that he likes, ye, that'll be him running personnel by proxy,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: Ryan Cowden that guy, because you know, I'm sure Wolf
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: and this guy will be told to work together, but
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 4: when there's a disagreement, it'll go to Vrabel and he'll
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: be the arbiter and he'll side with his guy.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 6: Interesting, it's interesting, like for a coach, like what do
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 6: you prefer as a personnel guy do you want? You know,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 6: Like it's just about seeing the game the same way
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 6: and knowing what you want to run and if they
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 6: can give you you know, it's just it's an interesting
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 6: kind of relationship to establish with somebody, like you know,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 6: you find someone who really sees the game the same
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 6: way as you, or you know, is it that much
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 6: of it is that at that heart of a switch,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 6: if you go to a place and there's someone who's
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 6: managing personnel already and has a system in.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: Place, and you say, look, he gets it. He does
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: good players. I know good players.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: I just want the coach to have final say over
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 5: the fifty three man roster. That's all like if you
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: if you have to have another guy that has the
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 5: actual final say in the draft or whether you know,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 5: signing someone or whatever, and that can be a collaborative process.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 5: To use that word that everybody sort of recoils at
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: now from last year. But you gotta let the coach
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 5: pick the players.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, all right, I'm told he's about two
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: minutes away.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 5: Evan's given as a two. And I don't think you're
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: saying do something.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 8: He should be.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: I wonder what they had for lunch? What do you?
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 4: What do you get?
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: The first question?
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: Shoot, sure, okay, what do you what do you give
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: a guy who you just signed as your head coach?
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of time. What do you
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: what do you serve for lunch?
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 6: Lobster bisk Like it's just like a nice little fill a,
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 6: like like a couple of filats out, you know, like, yeah.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: I honestly have no idea.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: We're gonna find out. I'm gonna find out ere it comes. Okay,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: bring them in we're not going to take a break.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: Should we play the music.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 4: We'll just bring them right in.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 3: People experience the awkwardness in real time.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: Just bring them right in. Don't be nervous.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 5: Let's go.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: You've done before doing. I love it all right, let's
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 4: go sit down, Sit down. How many cameras do we need?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: Cameras everywhere?
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, I've been billing you as the professional ballbuster, and
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: of course you come in shooting. I love it.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: It's great.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 8: I love it.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: I tell a story when uh, it's like Golden Girls,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: don't do you remember after the Carolina we did that
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: Three Games to Glory too, and you sat down with
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: I think it was Givings and Branch and you did
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 4: the director's cut. Then afterwards, I wanted you to look
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: at something you started. What did you do this? Why
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: did you do that? Why did you do that? You
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: started like you and I love that. I'm oh you
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: did it was great. We didn't take any of your advice,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: but it was fun, you know, but I like that.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: I like that about you, and I'm sure that you're
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: going to bring a lot to the table.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: Uh you know that way, because you would have made
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 5: it better but they were a little bit.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 4: Too too far in the process. I couldn't take advantage
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 4: of it. So my first question to you is what
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: what what gets served at lunch? To the new head
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 4: coach of the New England Patriots, chicken salad, chicken salad.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: That it was quick, oh man, A little disappointed.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 15: How many along the interview process somebody asked me what
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 15: I dislike about coaching football, and I said, outside of losing,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 15: I would say the abundance of food that's available at
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 15: any given second. It's just like anything that you want, treats, snacks, chips, food,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 15: and I'm like, it's got to stop at some point
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 15: in time.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 8: It's just like enough to know.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: I hear, because you know that was a bad part
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 5: of the you know, we continue to well.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: Travel to all the all the games, and the amount
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: of food that gets wasted it's unbelievable. Or eating eating, No,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 4: it's it's always there. And I tell people when we
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 4: first hired, say you don't have to eat everything. You
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 4: don't have to eat everything because they just keep serving
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 4: it to you.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 5: So like this is one of our newer members, Mike do.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 8: So, who's welcome? Do you have her?
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: Do you little you want to tell you.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 5: All right, this is one of his first purchases for
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 5: his newborn my son.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 10: Now back in the day, he's fourteen sixteen, he's sixteen now,
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 10: so I had to bring it in.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 5: So he's got a little bit of a man.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would get probably both wore both. Wore one
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 8: of those as well. A rookie on this one.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 5: No, he's been here since twenty nineteen, his first playoff
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 5: game with us. You know, Fred and I used to
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: just winning titles. His first playoff game.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: You beat us to get rid of me if you
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: want to.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 10: So this is all.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 5: And then Evan Lazare is actually.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 28: Right.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 4: He's a resident ex no savant.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 10: He said he was gonna embarrass me.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 4: No, but no, seriously, this guy, if you want to
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 4: just ask him, he'll he'll tell you gap or zone.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 15: Yeah, And if you listen to the press conference, I said,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 15: I would hope for versatility to be able to be
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 15: able to have zone scheme. But then you know, when
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 15: some of those penetrating fronts to be able to have
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 15: some gap scheme and some double teams at the line
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 15: of scrimmage, that that it's going to help some of
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 15: that penetration.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 4: When I looked at Evan and he was like, so
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: what would you what would you recommend?
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 10: What would I recommend? Yeah, that's his job, that's not mine.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 4: I'm giving you what's your favorite run?
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 8: What's your favorite run?
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 10: My favorite run?
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 4: Power?
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 10: Power, pull the guard down, get downhill, maybe hit play
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 10: action behind it.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: Everyone what now?
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 8: Now?
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 15: The thing is with power, we got to find a
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 15: full back or we got to find a tight end
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 15: that can move and get in some of those movements.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 8: But don't disagree.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: Can you bring yak Up Johnson back because he can
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 4: speak German and that's one of our markets.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a lot of people down there in Tennessee
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 8: that thought he was was pretty good too. Yeah.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 4: I like he's a good guy.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we're gonna find well, we'll find somebody that can
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 8: do it.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 4: So like it's been a whirlwind, right uh huh Yeah,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 4: I like, have you had a chance to even just
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: think about what's going on? You still know?
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 15: And I think the problem was I had so much
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 15: time yesterday to think about it that it was just
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 15: like text messages coming in and it was almost like
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 15: I was paralyzed.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 8: I didn't even know where to start to.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 15: Try to respond to anybody that was texting and so
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 15: you know that that's going to take I don't even
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 15: know how long. Yeah, just people that have had an
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 15: impact or that we're texting and congratulations and you know,
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 15: the one thing that you know, we this is exciting,
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 15: but we also want to make sure that you know
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 15: we have a we have a small circle, and that
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 15: we have a certain amount of people that we trust.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 15: And I try to explain that to the players, that
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 15: that nobody texts you when you lose, right, and so
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 15: you have a tough loss or a tough game, and
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 15: those people that reach out to you, then I always say,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 15: when we start winning, you remember who those people were,
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 15: because the text messages start to go up when you win.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 15: And so in the request, it's a good reminder that
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 15: the people that that are there when when you're not
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 15: at your best should be the ones that are there
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 15: when you're at your best. You even though where you're
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 15: gonna live yet no Patriot Place. I stayed in a
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 15: nice hotel when we were here for the Hall of Fame.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 8: So I'm sure I.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 5: Talk a little bit better about Patriot Place nowadays than
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 5: you used to.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 6: Is that was that like did I did I talk
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 6: negatively about the Patriot away that he was critical of it.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: No, it was just like that was a different role.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 15: Like even Robert and I talk about that like that
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 15: was trying to do my role as a union rep
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 15: and on the executive committee and that was my obligation.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 3: And now we got a different Yeah.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 15: No, but we were very familiar with those and all
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 15: the rules and everything, like, you know, we're gonna do
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 15: what's best for the play.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 4: You mentioned, you know, helping helping out you and being
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 4: there when things aren't good, when things are bad. Since
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 4: you've been gone my role I run all the content here,
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 4: you know, And no, no, I'm just content has changed
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 4: in sports and in the NFL and as you know,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 4: Surf Melenda's friends with him back in Tennessee and the
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: stuff they used to do with you, and you know,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 4: social media has changed. What's your view of like all
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 4: of that stuff like players having their own social media,
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 4: players having their own podcasts and all that stuff. Do
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 4: you have you know, feelings about that or sure?
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 8: I mean I think that that's a part of our
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 8: life and it's something that we probably need to embrace.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 15: It's the way a lot of these younger kids communicate,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 15: and our involvement on social media may be less than
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 15: what these kids are coming out. Yeah, and so I
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 15: think that it's it can be positive if it's done correctly.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 15: That if you you know, trying to be focused on
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 15: what you want to do and using the right intent. Yeah,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 15: that that that that can be positive. And the podcasts,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 15: you think you're careful, you know, I mean, you just
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 15: have to be careful.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 8: They get very conversational and relaxed exactly.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 15: I mean again, like I've been on podcasts before, I've
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 15: said things that into you know, you want to be funny,
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 15: that ends up, you know, And I wasn't negative.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 8: It was just a joke that.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 15: Seems to have gone on. But you just have to
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 15: be careful what that happened. What happens is is people
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 15: cut out small snippets of a podcast and then the
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 15: players like, well, I didn't say that, I didn't mean
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 15: it like that, and I understand that they didn't. But
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 15: after a course of forty five minutes, it's in a casion,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 15: it's a relaxed setting, and and then they left their
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 15: guard down and then it.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 8: Becomes something bigger.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 15: So the biggest thing for me is the education, how
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 15: to use it, how to communicate it, how to put
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 15: your brand out there, your message, try to make it
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 15: about the team and not so much I or me
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 15: but we and us.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been there. Have you had much interaction with
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 5: some of your former teammates, you know, talking about this
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 5: leading up to taking the job.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 15: No, No, I meant I still text players and you know, teammates,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 15: but not a whole lot of as it related to
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 15: this or you know, I was, I was busy, and
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 15: you know, but obviously Teddy and Willie and Rosie and
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 15: Seymour and you know Tom. You know, I've heard from
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 15: a lot of guys and reached out and texted and
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 15: you know, yeah, I asked.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 8: Proud of those relationships.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 5: I asked because Teddy was really supportive of you getting
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 5: this job, and I thought he was really strong, even
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 5: yesterday when it was already announced that you would you
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 5: would agreed. I thought he was really a guy that
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 5: seemed to be in your corner.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 4: Linebackers stick together, well.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 15: I meant, Teddy, uh, And Teddy was one of those
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 15: guys that helped me become a pro. Like Teddy and
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 15: I have different personalities, but we both believe in the
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 15: same thing. And you know, Teddy taught me that that
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 15: no is a complete sentence and I'll never forget that.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 8: And I said, well, why do you say no?
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 4: See no, that's good. It makes the Teddy Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 6: How much difference do you feel this that your second
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 6: time around here as you sit on the precipice is
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 6: starting off another franchise.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 8: Here's the It's almost sometimes is it? Do you know
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 8: too much about what the job is going to entail?
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 8: And can that can be a positive?
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 15: Because I did think that you get into you know,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 15: there was one option. It was the it was the
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 15: Tennessee job the last time, and there may or may
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 15: not have been more options now, So then you start
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 15: looking and you's like, can you overthink something? And you
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 15: never want your players to be in that position where
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 15: they're overthinking something, right. It wants to be like I'm trained, prepared,
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 15: I'm poised them instinctive, and I'm ready to go make
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 15: a decision, as opposed.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 8: To well this that the other thing, what about this?
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 15: And so there's just I think you're more experienced, But
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 15: then that also leads into the ability to sometimes second guess, Yeah,
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 15: what you're doing.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know personally, I rarely get things right
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 4: the first time right. It takes me a couple of
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 4: times to get it right. And I'm not saying you're
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 4: like that, but having ben a head coach before and
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 4: now this is your second stint, is there one thing
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 4: you say, I'm going to do this differently this time
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: where this is what I've learned that I want to
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 4: incorporate that I wasn't able to the last time.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 15: No, not necessarily that, I mean, just making sure that
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 15: their roster has competition throughout, you know, just the whatever
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 15: you feel like is the front line starters and the backups,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 15: and making sure that everybody prepares us a starter each
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 15: and every week. Try to keep everybody engaged and hope
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 15: that they take advantage of opportunities. Talk about the connection piece,
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 15: you know, that's critical and making sure that we have
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 15: people that you know are willing to get to know
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 15: the players another level.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 4: Even since when you were a player, Like practice, rules
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 4: have change and it's tougher to hold these practices, especially
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 4: during the season, where you keep you know, well, we
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 4: want to.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 8: Be we want to be efficient and we want to
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 8: practice with speed.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 15: Uh, so that the timing of different routes and coverages
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 15: or pressures are there. I mean, I think great teams
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 15: know how to practice.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 8: With without full pads. But there's a speed. They stay
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 8: off the ground. So we'll practice.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 15: As hard and as fast as we can based on,
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 15: you know, the availability the players to stay healthy and
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 15: stay on their feet.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 8: Did not fall all over the place.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 5: You're still putting the pads on.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we see on.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I mean. We we love that thing.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 15: It's nice and thin, it can travel anywhere, it can
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 15: go in your suitcase and go to the workouts.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 8: And that's been a good pad that they made for us.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 5: One of the things that was, oh, you gotta wrap
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 5: it up, we gotta go all right.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one more question.
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonna say one of the things
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 5: that that stuck out to me when you talked about
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 5: the college players and the differences come you know, spending
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 5: five years of the program as opposed to six months.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 5: What have you seen the differences as they come to you.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 15: That the accountability, uh maybe they were enabled at college.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 15: Don't don't want to tell them things that may disappoint
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 15: them or upset them, for fear for them to go
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 15: and look for another offer.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 15: So sometimes that that leads to a player that's not
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 15: as accountable to the team as he needs to be.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 15: And that's okay, you know what I mean. Like we
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 15: we can change. We can do our part to help
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 15: change some.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 8: Of those behaviors.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 4: All right, Mike Fridays, guys, head coach of the New
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 4: England Patriots. Welcome back.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 8: Welcome back.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Mike, thank you.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 4: All right, take a break, We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well we had our first sit down with
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 4: Mike Rabel. I hope it's not our last, say, probably
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 4: the last ye but no. He came right in fire
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 4: and rockets right off the bat, making fun of us.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 5: So basically I would say to anybody that Fred and
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 5: I were trying to explain to before the press conference,
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 5: what his Mike Rabel is like, that's it. That's a
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 5: professional ball buster. Yeah, Shady Acres Retirement Home.
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 3: Just plops into the chair, no problem. Yeah, it's fun.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 8: There you go.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Evan, you got a little bit of an opportunity
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 4: to you know, and You're like, I better not say
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 4: RPO because I'd be like, not get out of here.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 5: Thanks. We're going back to a full.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 10: Back, yeah right, I I mean, look, I'm excited about that,
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 10: that idea of going back to a full back.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 27: Paul.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 4: I'm all for it as long as he can catch, right.
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 10: I don't know, while does Patrick reccard catch I've been
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 10: watching him on over the weekend. I was like, I
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 10: wouldn't mind that.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 4: What do you think? What do you think of my
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 4: Mason Graham love a good player, good player.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 10: I kind of agree with the guys though that you know,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 10: is that a is that a premium position of need
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 10: for the Patriots? And how does that shake out with
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 10: him and Barmore in the front and like, how do
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 10: you how do you go about that? And you hope
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 10: that maybe guy like Mike Rabile can get Kean White
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 10: on the right track and so really good player if
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 10: you're just trying to grab talent and go best player available,
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 10: I can see where your head's at.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I know, I say on Thursday
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: night it felt like a Carter.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean he's uh, it's a good chance he's
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 10: one overall pick.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 6: That's that's the realization I had of like the guy
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 6: being like I don't really care if they lose the
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 6: first all pick to like me watching that game thirst
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 6: and night being like.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think his What stands out to him and
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 10: what would make him so exciting with with Rabel is
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 10: that he only played edge for one year at Penn State,
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 10: so he's relatively new to playing on the line of scrimmage,
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 10: and he's still that good and that dominant at college.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 10: So you were talking about him putting on the pads
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 10: and going out there. Imagine him training up Abdul Carter
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 10: on the nuances of rushing the passer and things like that,
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 10: and where his development could then take him from there
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 10: to be a full time edge player would be something else.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 6: I brought up with Paul what he did with with
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 6: Harold Landry, who not that kind of athlete. Yeah, good
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 6: player nonetheless, and no similar kind of role that he
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 6: developed him.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 3: You go talking, so how about them blue Jays?
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 4: Now? I just wanted to get how about emails loaded up?
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 4: We've got a s load of emails, But do one
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 4: more call because Ernie's been holding on before Rabel came
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 4: into the room. Ernie's in Tennessee. What's up, Ernie?
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 32: I enjoy your show and podcast.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 14: I just.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 31: Went into the Middle Tennessee YMCA this morning with my
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 31: Rabel jersey and hoping to bust the balls and I
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 31: got a reaction that I wasn't expecting.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 32: They were all like, oh, you got a great coach.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 31: Rabel is a great guy, which.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 32: We had him.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 32: It was like Wow, they all loved him. Yeah, I
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 32: just wanted to share that that at least the fans
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 32: in Tennessee love the guy, appreciated what he did.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 4: Ye, thanks Ernie, appreciate the call, Thanks Ernie.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 5: I agree with that though, because his personality. You see
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 5: the personality, he's sort of an easy guy to sort
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 5: of connect with, because he's kind of just like your friends.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, busting balls all the time.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 5: No, obviously none of that manners if you can't coach, right,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 5: But I can understand why the Tennessee fans liked him. Sure.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 4: Spiing Fresno Risen and podcasts at Patriots dot Com feels
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 4: like walking into a retirement home was the moment I
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 4: got fully on board with the higher but a great
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 4: moment having Vrabel on the show today, Evan got his
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 4: input in and it's now fully to blame or credit
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 4: if all the team runs is power. So I was
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 4: a little you know, throwing a thrown whatever power? Really
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 4: that's your best run?
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, you pull the guard around and get
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 10: him on the linebacker Henry coach and then and then
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 10: you pull the guard around and it's play action. They
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 10: can't tell the difference. It looks the same you hit
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 10: that bang slant right behind it.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 3: Like said like double reverse or something, And wow.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 10: I almost said, I almost said duo. But but power
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 10: power do a good play.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 4: Too, uh, Mark writes in I'm over the moon with
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 4: the hiring of Stable Mike Rabel and truly believe that
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 4: he will be a successful head coach in New England
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 4: and think mister Kraft should be commended for how quickly
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 4: and efficiently he's rectified his mistake. But would you agree
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 4: with me that the lack of talent on the team
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 4: of late it would appear to be time to change
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 4: the talent spotting element to help improve the major issue. Well,
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 4: I'm you know, that's a work in progress. Identifying talent
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 4: and getting them on into the team, that's a work
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 4: in progress. And we'll see what head coach Mike Vrabel
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 4: has to has to say about that.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm interested. You know, we're we're planning to go
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 10: to Mobile here in a couple of weeks, some of us,
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 10: and I'm sure he'll be there with with Elliott and uh,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 10: you know, we'll see maybe what we get to talk
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 10: to him a little bit down there and get to
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 10: that that chapter, like right, now we're doing you know,
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 10: nursing homes and things like that. Well, we'll get to
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 10: the point where we're talking about it was retirement. Well
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 10: we'll get to uh, we'll get to the talent evaluation.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 10: But he did mention Elliott Wolf multiple times in his
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 10: introductory press conference, and it seemed whether that was just uh,
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 10: for appearances or not, it seemed like he had sort
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 10: of h hit it off almost a little bit with
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 10: Elliott already.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 5: I got the same impression. And I also would say,
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you were here when we were
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 5: talking about some of our impressions. I didn't get the
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 5: feel that he was being KOI by not giving you
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 5: much information about offensive and defensive coordinators.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: I think that's very much a work in progress.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, which I think it should be, like I hope
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 6: it is, you know, I hope like to your point,
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 6: I would have hoped that he had guys already lined up.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe he does, but I mean maybe he's just not.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 5: That's why I said I didn't get the impression that
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 5: he was being KOI. I think that he's open, he's
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 5: open to learning about people. I figured he would have
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 5: at least someone on, you know, one of those two,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 5: he would have a guy.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 8: In mind that.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 4: Niche carrying Exeter, New Hampshire. Geez guys, Evan gets to
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 4: stand in the corner when Mike coach Rabel arrived. Get
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 4: the guy a stool or a chair.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 10: So true, so true, Just expect Alex p Yeah there,
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 10: I'll give up my seat for the.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 5: Disrespected him a little bit.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 4: It's okay, let's see. That's the same one. Adam rights in.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 4: I love when there's a yapper on the phone who
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 4: just wants to hear themselves talking. Fred accidentally hits the
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 4: button to hang up on it. Then to see Paul
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 4: doing his best to hold the laughter and gets me
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 4: every time, laughing my butt off in my office right now.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 6: Fred's defense, he does do the like he tries to
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 6: put the little sounds into like he gives a little cure, just.
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 5: A couple of chances, and when you don't take it,
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 5: you just go, oh, I'm sorry.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 4: Uh Sila's Seattle rights in.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not one of the delusional fans that thinks Mayo
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 4: is the worst coach that ever lived, or that Rabel
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 4: is going to take this team to the super Bowl
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 4: next season. I'm just in watch I'm watching, I'm in
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 4: watching C mode. The team is in a multi year rebuild,
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 4: regardless of who's got the headset in my opinion, So
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 4: what has Rabel done that makes everyone so optimistic that
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 4: it can turn this situation around. Drake May has an
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 4: okay rookie season, but I'm far from comfortable with calling
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 4: him a franchise quarterback right now, So I hope that's
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 4: not what people are leaning on. It's a very important
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 4: time for the team. Because of this hire. Doesn't work,
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 4: we're gonna be in for over a decade of suck.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 4: I agree, it's we're at a crossroads. I agree, and
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 4: there's no guarantees. But I also I push back.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 10: On the notion that they can't be relevant next year.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 10: I'm not ready to say that they're gonna be a
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 10: title contender, obviously, but like, look at Washington, like I
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 10: couldn't help but watch that game last night and think
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 10: to myself, like, without saying, Terry McLaurin, who was on
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 10: the Commanders two years.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 5: Ago, I've said this so many times this season.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 10: That was any different than what the Patriots talent is
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 10: right now. They hit on the quarterback, they hit on
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 10: the culture defense. It's a minded head coach and they
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 10: hit on Cliff Kingsbury and now they're off and running.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 10: They're in the divisional round. I'm not saying the Patriots
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 10: are going to be that, but I think the notion
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 10: that they're so far away you can turn it around.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 5: That's the part that I always say, Like this idea
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 5: that it takes three years like in the NFL, is
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 5: the I don't want to say the word easiest, but
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 5: it's the easiest to do it quickly out of the
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 5: major sports. You think so yes, because of everything that
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 5: Evan just said, there are all the avenues that are
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 5: there for you. I think the lack of guaranteed contracts
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 5: even helps you.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 4: You can go from.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 5: Bad to playoff contender in a blink. If I'm not
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 5: telling you it's easy. I'm not telling you it's easy
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 5: because it's not easy. But I've seen a million examples
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 5: of teams like Washington that just go from really bad
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 5: to pretty good overnight. Now can they sustain that? We'll
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 5: find out. But Washington was every as bad as New
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 5: England last year. They finished tied with the second worst
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 5: record in football. They played on the field and the
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 5: game came down to the last play there was a
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 5: deflected interception Washington ended up winning. They were the same
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 5: teams and one of them just won twelve games and
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 5: the other one won four. They both hit on the quarterback,
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 5: So I think there are some things that you can
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 5: do to figure it out. And Evan's right. The only
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 5: thing that they really have that the Patriots don't is
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin. Brian Robinson's not any better than ramondre Stevenson,
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 5: Zach Ertz isn't any better than Hunter Henry. You know,
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 5: Austin Eckler at this stage of his career isn't any
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 5: better than Antonio Gibson. They got Brandon Coleman in what
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 5: the third round.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 10: Yes, to play left tackle. I think almost back to
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 10: back pick, you know, yeah, I think he was the
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 10: pick before Kayden Wallace.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 5: So he hasn't been great, but their quarterback has been special.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 5: They're finding ways to win some game. James Layton game.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 5: I think that's like the fifth go ahead touchdown that
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 5: they've had, or go ahead drive that they've had, or
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 5: something crazy. I don't know. Maybe he is.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 10: I mean I never thought that much of him.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 4: He would just turn the cap around. That's my only
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 4: problem with I.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 5: Mean, it's not like he went to Dallas and made
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 5: them great. It's not like he went to the Rams
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 5: and he went to Atlanta and took him to the
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 5: super Bowl. Right, and now he's at Washington, which has
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 5: been awful for twenty years, and he's made them pretty good.
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's why maybe he is under He's really good
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 10: at hiring people, and I think that that's the next big,
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 10: big step for Rabel. In Atlanta he hired Kyle Shanahan
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 10: and as his offensive coordinator and Steve Sarkgian and then
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 10: now in Washington he's hired Cliff Kingsbury and the offensive
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 10: coordinator hire is now the biggest decision that Rabel has
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 10: to make, and he should be. Like to Mike's point,
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 10: I think he needs to hear multiple avenues.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 10: Obviously we know McDaniels is out there. Oh we've heard
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 10: Tommy Reese's name thrown around from Cleveland. But there are
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 10: other names out there. You know, Josh McCown's out there
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 10: as a quarterbacks coach. Like maybe he's the guy who knows.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 10: But to Dan Quinn's credit, he's done a really good
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 10: job of building that side of the ball in terms
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 10: of his staff, because that's not his area of expertise.
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 10: So he's hired really good coordinators, three of them, really.
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 4: Jail writes in first time emailing or contacting the show
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 4: in any way, Although I've been listening for over a decade,
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 4: do you think coach Rabel was also addressing the players
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 4: as well as everyone else when he commented on having
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 4: multiple staff members focusing on the needs of players off
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 4: the field. I found it interesting how much he emphasized
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 4: the players their mental and physical health throughout the press conference.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 4: I think we all notice that, you know, and I
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 4: think maybe in today's NFL or sports modern sports.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 6: You have to it is I mean just I mean
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 6: that the story he told about a guy being a
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 6: little late to a meeting or you know, coming in
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 6: and not being ready to meet like that, that says
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 6: everything to me. I think that's you know, those are
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 6: the meanings that guys miss, those are, you know. I
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 6: think he's just showing that you have to be a
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 6: little bit more open minding with with you know, players
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 6: today and what they're going through. And I think it'll
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 6: come back to you if you you know, if these
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 6: guys feel like they're cared about and they're seen just
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 6: as people and not just players who are there to
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 6: do a job that you know, I think that that's
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 6: better for everybody.
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 4: Lexi and Orlando, Florida. Maybe a silly question, but where
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 4: does Rabel's contract money come from? Does it lower the
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 4: available cap?
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 14: No?
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 4: No, it's another pool of money and that's the owner's discretion.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 4: There's no coaching cap in the NFL. Correct, yep.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 5: Does not affect the salary cap.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 4: Let's see stuff about Evan. No, no more stuff about Evan.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 4: Josh writes in this could be a pipe dream in
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 4: my end, but do you see a path to aj
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 4: Brown joining the Patriots via Trey? Brown is disgruntled in Philly,
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 4: something in full display last night with his sideline book Antics,
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 4: and has a previous relationship with Rabel. I think he's
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 4: on the market, and we're in a position financially to
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 4: take in a guy that's already signed a multi year extension.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not overly concerned with any character. Is there's just
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 4: Howie Roseman's asking price. That being said, we're talking about
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 4: a guy that cried on Draft night because the Patriots
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 4: didn't draft him. What was that all about with him
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 4: reading the book on the motivations and.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 10: Apparently he does it quite a bit, but they just
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 10: caught him on camera doing it.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would actually say, like, I'm not going
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 5: to dismiss the email because I think the email is right.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 5: I think there's a chance that he's available. Yeah, so,
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 5: and I think if if he is, I think he
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 5: probably likes Rabel and we know he likes the Patriots,
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 5: So I would say that there's a possibility there. And
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 5: that's the I don't think he's disgruntled because of the book.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 5: Last night, the book, I think is did you see him?
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 5: He had a big smile on his face and like
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 5: they were laughing about it. No, I know, but Tevan's point,
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 5: it's something he's he does often.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 4: At that point in the game, was the game decided? No,
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 4: So like, shouldn't he be focused on the game?
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 5: But I think that's how he focused. I might be
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 5: reading into this, Yeah, that's what I don't Yeah, I
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 5: don't want to talk out of turn because I don't
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 5: know a J. Brown, but I think that's part of
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 5: his his process. Okay, Now, there have been other signs
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 5: this year that would tell you that he's disgruntled, Like
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 5: when he said.
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 3: What do we need to do?
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 10: We got to prove the passing game. Yeah, Like, look,
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 10: he's a deva wide receiver, so when he doesn't get
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 10: his you know he's going to feel some type of
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 10: way about it. And last night when they showed him
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 10: on the bench reading the book, I think he had
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 10: one catch for ten yards at that point and they
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 10: were running the ball a lot.
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 5: And what happened on the next drive did they feed
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 5: him He No, he made an unbelievable block. Yeah, on
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 5: the next drive they made a big thing out of it. Like,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think last night is the is the illustration
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 5: of your example of him being disgruntled. But I do
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 5: think there's a chance.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 3: That he could be available. I would take and put
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 3: him at the top of the list.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 5: Now Philadelphia would be easy to get rid of him
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 5: because I think that offense needs him.
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he's the type of receiver and I
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 10: know it's one of the best receivers in football. That's
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 10: the type of receiver. Like, he's the type of receiver
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 10: though from a skill set standpoint that I really do
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 10: believe Rabel gravitates towards and I know that. You know,
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 10: we sometimes poke fun at the ability to block and
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 10: all that kind of stuff, But an all situation receiver
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 10: that allows you to then, you know, incorporate things off
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 10: of the run game with him on the field because
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 10: he can hold his own in terms of blocking. I
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 10: think does scream their type?
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 5: Now you give a one for him?
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, four?
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 10: No, next year's one.
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 5: I'm not giving four, So you give six?
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 10: Aj Brown.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 4: John in South Carolina. Looking at the past four drafts,
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 4: four years of drafts, one of the lowest success rates
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 4: goes to drafting a tackle. Last year, there was only
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 4: one player titled this tackle. Uh, that player ended up starting.
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 4: I would say, if we think there is a tackle
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 4: at four, we need to take him. Not sure after that,
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 4: maybe an edge rusher.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 5: I don't understand.
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 4: I don't either.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 5: Tackle has been a poor success rate. Then why would
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 5: you say we got to take a tackle at four.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 4: I think he's meaning he said, of guys who were
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 4: labeled tackle, only one ended up starting.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't know, Like, I don't know what that is.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know what that means. But he's hit. The
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 5: first part of his email was that tackle because this
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 5: is what I agree with. Tackle has been sort of
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 5: sketchy in the first round lately. And then he said,
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 5: then you need to take because of that, you need
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 5: to take a tackle.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 4: Well, he's saying, you got to take the sure thing
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 4: up high, but.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 5: It's not a sure thing.
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 10: He just sort of illustrated why it's not a sure thing,
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 10: well more than.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 4: I think I think.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 5: I think I can think of Brandon Coleman in Rosengarden
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 5: right off the top of my head.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 10: Well, Joe, you're talking about.
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 4: I think his point is like, it's a crap shoot
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 4: with tackle, so if there's a good one, you better
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 4: take them because lower it's it's a crap shoot. But
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of tackles in the league. They're not
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 4: all bad, and they all weren't taken it.
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 5: I also say, like there is no sure thing like that.
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 10: Of course not.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 5: But that's the part of it that I just keep
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 5: I think there's a there's a sort of line of
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 5: thought that it's a safe first round pick tackle, And
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 5: I'm just telling you the only reason why you think
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 5: that way is because you can't evaluate that position like
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 5: you can't others.
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 5: I certainly can't Evan does, and you know Greg and
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 5: the guys that do you know, Taylor Kyle's no. I'm
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 5: saying all you guys tailor that do all you all
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 5: know is no. The guys that do the all twenty two,
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 5: they can they can maybe evaluate a little bit better
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 5: than most. Most people do not watch those guys to
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 5: that level that they're telling you that Kingsley Solo Sua
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 5: Matteia is not as good as Roger Rosengarden. Most people
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 5: were just telling you, well this I started. That guy
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 5: started out all right, Well, one of them can't play,
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 5: and one of them, you know, I shouldn't say you
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 5: can't play. One of them really struggled, and the other
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 5: one has been pretty serviceable. He had a great night
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 5: the other night on TJ Watt. You know, yeh. Whereas
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 5: it's very easy to see a wide receiver who catches
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 5: nine passes or in the case of our second round pick,
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 5: twelve passes and say he didn't have a good year,
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 5: it's right there for everybody to see. That's what makes
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 5: like tackle safer than wide receiver. All the offensive line,
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 5: not the ability, not their ability. There's plenty of misses
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 5: in the first round with tackle over the years. The
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 5: email is exactly right.
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 10: That was the most encouraging part though for me from
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 10: the press conference was his just saying that it's critical
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 10: to get the trenches right here, and to get especially
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 10: not just the trenches in terms of physicality and finished
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 10: but pass protection. He specifically talked about protecting the quarterback.
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 4: And he talked about like getting involved with offensive line coaching.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, and protecting the quarterback is in disrupting the
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 10: quarterback on the other side. And you just look at
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 10: the statistics the Patriots thirty second in the league, and
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 10: pass block win rate thirtieth in the league, and pressure
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 10: rate on the other side like that, that right there
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 10: says so much to me about why they stunk for
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 10: two years is because they couldn't protect the quarterback and
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 10: they couldn't get after the quarterback. And this guy's coming
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 10: in and saying, you know, what's your number one off
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 10: season need and he's saying, protecting the quarterback. And I
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 10: think that should be music to everybody's ears.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 10: How they get there is a story that we can
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 10: talk about for the next four months, but that piece
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 10: of it is is key and he said it right
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 10: off the bat.
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 4: I'm watching the Felger on TV and make just tell
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 4: I can just tell from his body language he's figuring
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 4: out a way to make this a bad day for
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 4: the New Patriots, and your text chain policy shared that
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 4: with you.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 5: The text chain on Mondays only when how terrible.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 8: This is a day?
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 4: And the decision Ellen Wisconsin Wright saying are you worried
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 4: at all? That through the whole press conference, Rabel didn't
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 4: refer to Robert Kraft as Thunder even once. For real,
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 4: though I'm excited, I was rooting for Johnson, but I
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 4: think Rabel immediately makes the team relevant. We won't be
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 4: wondering anymore if issues are due to talent or coaching. Well,
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 4: let's hope. I mean, we know Rabel's a good coach,
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 4: but he's got to fill that staff.
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 5: Those like did statements like that, I'm like, well, how
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 5: do we know that?
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 10: Like you just I do?
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 4: I do it?
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 5: Can we let the process play out before we just
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 5: make these declarative statements just now?
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 6: I get them more of the parcels doesn't work that
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 6: That to me is I didn't really put that together.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 6: But over the last couple of days, like I just
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 6: see a lot of parallels from when Parcels got here, Karl,
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 6: it wasn't as bad as it was then, and there's
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 6: been success. But you know, just a tough coach who's established,
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 6: who brings a little bit of you know, personality that
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 6: we've already seen.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 3: It's just it's good. That's what they need.
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 4: Let's see. Kevin says for our schedule release video, we
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 4: should do years in The cast list is Cliff Claven
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 4: Is Evan norm Is, Fred Woody is Paul, Rebecca is Tamara,
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 4: Sam is Mike Vrabel. That makes sense. Lilith is Alex Francisco,
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 4: Fraser is Alex Barth, and coach is Matt or Hardy. Okay,
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 4: we're already thinking about Woody. Yeah, Cliff, in a fun fact,
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 4: if you were if you run duo.
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 10: And power, I was really excited. He said that, well,
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 10: we're gonna need a full back and I was like, sure,
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 10: are Mike?
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 3: Are we talking right now?
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 10: Am I talking ball with the We sure are going
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 10: to need a full back, Mike.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 8: You you.
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 5: Life just ended.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 10: Josh is at home game no more than twenty two
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 10: passes a game.
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 4: A lot of people like the fact that he came
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 4: in here busting Paul and my balls. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 4: I'm a assuming that.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 3: No, I think he got me too.
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you do not look old, you know, anywhere
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 5: near as old as well.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 4: He looks like that nineteen fifty sitcom father, So very
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 4: state down and tell us about you in the middle.
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah with a pipe. Micah from South Dakota, Fred, we
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 4: got a guy. That guy has me wanting to run
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 4: through a brick wall for him. It's very clear that
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 4: he has a presence about him as a leader. What
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 4: I find awesome is that if you listen to Taylor
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 4: Lewin and Will Compton on their podcast talk about Mike Rabel,
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 4: they say playing for Rabel is hard but rewarding because
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 4: they always knew if they did what they were coached
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 4: to do, they'd have a chance to win. Rabel has
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 4: a plan and I'm all on board with whatever he
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 4: sees fit for this team, Go Patriots.
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 5: One of my concerns and that's why I asked him
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 5: the question about the players and what he's seen, and
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 5: the difference is, Yeah, it's a hard coaching those guys.
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 5: Taylor Luwan obviously is a guys. That's what he wanted,
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 5: and I think most players, let's just call it eight
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 5: years ago, probably would take to that approach. I think
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 5: there was a concerted effort by Girod Mayo and his
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 5: staff last year to understand that that way doesn't always
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 5: work and they needed to change now. Is there a
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 5: happy medium, because clearly what Gerrod Mayo did didn't work.
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 5: And I made this comment many times. I don't think
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 5: I'm speaking out of school. There was a comment made
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 5: by Girod to me that he said, if you're going
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 5: to ask him to run through a wall, you got
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 5: to hug him first. And I always thought it's the
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 5: other way around. You got to ask him to run
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 5: through a wall, and then when they do it right,
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 5: you give them the hug. And then then they'll do
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 5: it again.
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 4: Don't give him the reward. Don't give them the reward.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 5: Until they earn it. And I do feel like Rabel
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 5: is the other way. Obviously Bill was, but I do
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 5: think Rabel is a guy who will give you the
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 5: hug when you earn it.
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's critical that he gets the
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 4: leaders in that locker room that are his disciples, so
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 4: that the best players of the team are doing what
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 4: he wants, so then the other guys might.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 5: Be the best reason to keep David Andrews around for
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 5: over a year.
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, he's one.
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 5: Of those guys.
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 10: Absolutely white gobluh.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah writes in I think vrabel putting a light on
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 4: the entitlement aspect on the team was big due to
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 4: the disarray and player press conferences all last season. I
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 4: hope that he instills in these players how easy it
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 4: is to lose your job, no matter how good you
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 4: think you are.
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I've meant to bring that up. I thought that pointed.
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 10: Like I thought that that was a very pointed comment,
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 10: and not just to the players and maybe what he
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 10: observed from the outside looking in last year. But let's
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 10: face it, you know, there's six banners hanging up in
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 10: the stadium, and like he said, not going to help us, right,
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 10: it's not going to help us that we did all
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 10: this winning twenty years ago.
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 8: Beca.
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 10: This is a new group, it's a it's a new
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 10: set of players, it's a new front office, new coaching staff.
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 10: And I thought that he felt like maybe there was
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 10: still a little bit of that, Well, we're the Patriots,
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 10: so we're just gonna walk off the bus and we're
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 10: gonna win games because we're the Patriots, and you got
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 10: to have to go through it again, and you have
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 10: to go through the hard work again.
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 5: That in the creating competition, you know, you talked about
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 5: the roster, not just the starters, but creating competition. You
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 5: know among the you know, throughout the roster.
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 4: You know who was big on that, believe it or not.
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 5: Who was big on Pete Carroll? Pete Carroll, very.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 4: Very big on competition, Kevin in Providence. Only time will
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 4: tell if Rabel will work out as head coach, But
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 4: my goodness, is it great to have a competent adult
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 4: be the face of the franchise. If you showed one
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 4: hundred people who know nothing about football Mayo's intro presser
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 4: last year and the one that Rabel just did, and
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 4: asked them which organization do you feel more confident in
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 4: being successful? One hundred of them would save Rabel ps
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 4: Was Rabel saying that he doesn't think may would be
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 4: a good RPO quarterback? Or do you think he was
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 4: just giving an example of how you choose offensive philosophy
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 4: a sample.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that did occur to me.
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 5: I would love to why I was thinking. That's another
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 5: time I thought of you during the press conference. Wipe
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 5: wipe those words out.
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 10: Of your mind. Along with the full back. We need
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 10: our job.
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 5: I would like to do that experiment. Can we, like
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 5: somehow get you know, ten people who've never seen a
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 5: football game and show them both press conferences and ask
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 5: them which one they would rather root for?
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 4: Can we do that.
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 5: Controlled experiment? It have to be people who know nothing
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 5: about full Yeah, I know that's what's that's the hard part.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 4: Well, just then we'll do it with the media. I oh, snap, bom,
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 4: just kidding everybody, just kidding. I just want that just
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 4: for these guys the ball, uh, Fred. In addition to
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 4: you thanking Patricia for his service to the Patriots. As
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 4: stated by Rabel today, did he say that, I don't
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 4: think it was so outland just for him to coach
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball. Maybe Belichick wasn't
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 4: crazy like much of the media set a football coach
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 4: as a football coach. Did Rabel say something about that?
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 5: No, and Rabel didn't. Rabel wasn't the Browns offensive coordinator
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 5: this year, right, And it's not the same thing. No
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 5: one was.
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 8: I got fired.
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 10: But yes, your points like.
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 5: It's just not it's not it's not even worth he.
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 10: Was what he was talking about when he when he
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 10: brought up tight ends and offensive line. I know you
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 10: know this, I'm just explaining, yeah, is uh. You know
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 10: he was saying, well, if I was a defender and
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 10: you did this, I would do that, right, and you know,
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 10: trying to go through the cat and mouse game of
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 10: seeing it through the prism of an out an outside
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 10: linebacker coming off the edge as a tackle. You know,
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 10: if you're gonna you know, hit a punch here, then
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 10: my hands are gonna go like that, and then how's
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 10: your counter? You know, so that that's how you can
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 10: kind of you know what's it called, you know, cross
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 10: train right in that respect. Right, But like we're not
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 10: coordinating in the offense or he's not the one with
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 10: the headset calling the place. He was just trying to
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 10: help with some of the technics.
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 5: No one ever suggested that Matt Patricia should never be
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 5: allowed to coach on the other side of the ball,
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 5: right like forever, Like he's a defensive coach and that's
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 5: all we ever done. No, like if you wanted to
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 5: even make him the offensive line coach coordinator, like you
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 5: just made the guy the offensive coordinator, Like, that's not
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 5: the same as trying to, you know, broaden your horizons.
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 4: Connor and Gansett. With McCarthy out in Dallas, what would
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 4: you say about the idea of Kellen Moore for oc.
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 5: Bill Belichick is in Philadelphia? Yeah, what he's saying as
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 5: the Cowboys head coach?
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 4: I think No, he's talking about bringing him here.
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 5: So he got it as an offensive coordinator.
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no Kellen Moore?
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 5: No, what is that? I don't understand what Mike McCarthy's.
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 3: He thought.
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 10: Kellm more was in Dallas. He got confused.
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, I thought he was suggesting Keellen Moore is as
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 5: the McCarthy successor.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 10: Possible, definitely possible.
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems that makes sense.
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 4: Eric and Idaho, Eric and Idaho. As many other Patriots fans,
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 4: I was okay with either Rabel or Johnson as the
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 4: next head coach. However, I'm pretty surprised at how polarized
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 4: people are about the decision. As long as we have
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 4: an above average coaching, Drake may is the reason we
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 4: will either be a contender or not. A great quarterback
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 4: means much more than the head coach. Lastly, would Evan
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 4: feel better about Rabel higher if he started wearing tight
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 4: pants is.
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 5: A polarizing choice.
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think most people like I
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 4: kind of wanted Johnson, but I'm okay with this.
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 5: That's I think most people like.
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, of the people who wanted Johnson, most of
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 4: them were saying, I'm fine with this. Yeah, it was.
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 10: There was Patriots Twitter, which admittedly Patriots Twitter pants off admittedly,
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 10: you know, excuse a little bit younger at times. Was
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 10: definitely with the let's hire the rising star offensive coordinator
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 10: to give him to Drake May and have that whole thing.
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 10: And I'm still there, like, I still have concerns about
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 10: how it works with Drake May and the offense and
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 10: all that kind of stuff. But I think, you know,
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 10: he kind of the comment that he made about helping
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 10: Drake May manage the game and the situational awareness and
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 10: that whole aspect I thought was was soothing to me.
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 10: I was like, Okay, like he's gonna. I understand where
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 10: he's coming from because he was a really good at
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 10: that in Tennessee as a head coach of this is
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 10: the situation, you know, we were, this is the score.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 10: You know, we need to We're in the four minute offense, like,
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 10: this is what we need you to do.
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 5: Identified the goal, right, you know, of the situation, whatever,
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 5: you know, it's four minute, whatever it is, identified the goal.
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 5: This is the best way to get there, right.
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 10: And I feel like that element of it is sort
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 10: of the final hurdle for Drake to start winning game
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 10: in the league. Not just starting to look good in games,
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 10: because he's already doing that, but to actually win games
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 10: in the league. It's the little things that you know,
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 10: they were able to do with Brady for so many years,
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 10: where they were just better in that situational element. I
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 10: think Jaden Daniels is really good in those situational elements
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 10: and late in games and fourth quarters and close games late,
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 10: like you know, his numbers are unreal in those situations
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 10: this year. And that's that's why they flipped it around
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 10: there in Washington.
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 4: A lot a couple of people are saying the Patriots
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 4: are stuck in the past with this higher Do you agree?
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 3: No, could be.
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 5: I think that's the part of me that was sort
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 5: of questioning why they didn't talk to more people was that, Yep,
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 5: they they looked like they were sort of stuck on
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 5: some something that they knew again. I don't think there's
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 5: anything wrong with Mike Rabel. You guys see how much
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 5: I like him? Yeah, I mean when he came in here,
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 5: you could see that. I genuinely like Mike Rabel. Yeah,
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 5: so I have no problem with the higher But I
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 5: do understand why some people would say just stuck in
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 5: the past.
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 4: Ivon in Toronto. How do you see Mike Rabel's culture
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 4: resonate in the locker room this year? Some players seem
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 4: to accept substandard plays and attitudes. Deuce would mention guys
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 4: saying my bad and kind of laugh it off. Some
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 4: players missing curfew, et cetera. Do you see him cutting
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 4: players who won't measure up to his standards. This younger
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 4: generation may not appeal to the toughness and discipline of
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 4: the new hook coach. I certainly hope to see personal
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 4: accountability and self discipline the team's foundation. No more walk
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 4: it back. Mondays would love to know your thoughts.
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I like, I just struggle with like you know,
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 6: the too many players are soft now and you can't
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 6: be hard on them and they just want to have fun.
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 3: Like I just I don't buy into that.
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 6: I think you can hold guys accountable and be tough
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 6: on them without being a giant a hole who just
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 6: seems like you're disconnected and you're just forcing them to
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 6: do stuff that they don't understand.
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 1: Why.
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 6: I just there's ways to do it now. But I
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 6: just I refuse to believe that hard coaching can't exist anymore.
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 3: I just I don't believe it.
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I also I do wonder about some of the
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 10: guys last year that weren't exactly sending the best messages
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 10: and weren't exactly going about things the best way. How
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 10: many of those guys are going to be on this
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 10: team next year. I do wonder about that.
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, I wonder about how many of those guys
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 6: are gonna be good on the stand up in front
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 6: of everybody, and Hey, Kendrick Bourne, what's your depth here?
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 3: On this third and twelve? Ten?
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 10: No, twelve? I do think this is going to be
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 10: it that needs to be done.
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 5: So you're yeah, there's a chance that there's some guys
• 2:46:33
  Speaker 5: that you that not a lot of people are expecting
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 5: to be gone, that will be gone.
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 10: Agreed.
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, We'll do a couple more calls and then we'll
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 4: wrap it up. We'll be back tomorrow at our usual
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 4: time at noon. So a lot more calls and emails tomorrow,
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 4: and we'll talk about the weekend's games. I called it
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 4: mild card weekend. I wasn't that impressed.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 5: I just thought it was boring.
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 4: Let's go to Brian in Massachusetts somewhere. What's up, Brian?
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 9: Hey, what's up?
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 14: Hey?
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 8: Now you talk?
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 9: Hey, what's up?
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 3: Hey?
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 8: Guys?
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 30: He's doing there good?
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we'll go to the next call.
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 8: We'll go to Uh.
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 4: We had a chance, Boston, cream.
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 10: What's up?
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 5: Boston did give him a chance.
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 10: It's fair. It's fair.
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 26: Blitzen guys.
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 9: It feels like a new era.
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 8: Fred.
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 11: I need you to pull up your boss man short
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 11: storm up to the grass office. We need new jerseys.
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 9: Let's get this stench off of us.
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 29: Look good, play good?
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 8: Is that it.
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 11: Also one last thing? Yeah, there's a trend here. Rod
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 11: Mayo played for the Patriots ten years ago. Mike Rabel
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 11: played for the Patriots twenty years ago. If this doesn't
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 11: work out, Paul Drew Bledsoe played thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 4: There you go, okay, Oh, Vincent, all right, thanks, thanks,
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  Speaker 4: boss boy.
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  Speaker 5: My boy Drew doesn't need to be dad Boydant. He's
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  Speaker 5: very contented, no interest, postplaying, courage.
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  Speaker 4: No interest. All right, that's going to be it for
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  Speaker 4: this edition of an emergency podcast, the hiring of Mike Vrabel.
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  Speaker 4: you can watch that. We will be back at noon.
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