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#122 Naughty Street Kids, Poo Baths And Telling Off Over People's Offspring · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: Who would you rather Marrakaille Trump? That's good, Zuckerberg, Ela Musk.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you've got to kill Trump, don't it's Wayne Newsworthy.
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  Speaker 3: Mark and you'd marry Elon. Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think my expected look at slightly. It's got a bit
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  Speaker 2: more swag.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we don't need to keep this. Let's go one
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  Speaker 1: all the come on, come on, we're running on time.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say one of what his lower back
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  Speaker 4: looks like.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, Welcome back to two doting dads. Well, one doting
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  Speaker 2: dad and one doting mum. It is the wife and
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  Speaker 2: the mother of Lola and Marley.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not the wife of Lola and Marley.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go, let me start that again. It's the
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  Speaker 2: wife of Maddie j but the mother.
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  Speaker 4: Of Lola and Marley.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, thank you for having me back.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, it's a delightful. It's nice feeling into my husband.
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  Speaker 1: Who do I send the invoice to, though es Matt.
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  Speaker 4: This is a part us all about parenting.
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  Speaker 2: It's the good, the bad, and the relatable.
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  Speaker 1: And if you came here for any advice, scram I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how that get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: This is week two of dealing without Matt, living without Matt.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, can can I talk today? Note?
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  Speaker 1: I do think that we have We are both doing
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  Speaker 1: a particularly good job of it because Matt is the
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  Speaker 1: glue that keeps the well. Actually, no, Jesse, your producer,
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  Speaker 1: is the glue that keeps this podcast together. But Matt
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  Speaker 1: also is a very important binding substance like seamen. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about you, Maybiac. I think that Matt is
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  Speaker 1: the very important glue that keeps our family together. I
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  Speaker 1: just kind of Matt is the organizer of our household.
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  Speaker 1: He's the diary person, he's the calendar person, he books
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  Speaker 1: the appointments that he is, he's the literally the binding
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  Speaker 1: age too. And I just wafted through life and I
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  Speaker 1: feel a little bit scatterbrain at the moment without him
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  Speaker 1: and with him gone, it's really hard. How many he's
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  Speaker 1: been gone since last Monday, so it's.
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  Speaker 3: Now been what nine days?
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  Speaker 4: Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Nine days? But hear me out. I originally thought that
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be incredibly hard without him. And
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I miss him heaps, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I miss him so much, and I've enjoyed watching him.
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  Speaker 1: There's been some really like proud moments that I've had
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  Speaker 1: of him being on the show so far. But what
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  Speaker 1: I underestimated is how much time a relationship actually takes.
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  Speaker 1: They're coming home from work and talking about your day
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  Speaker 1: to your partner or all the calls during the day.
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  Speaker 1: So I kind of originally when I thought, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to parent without Matt, and then
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to work, and it's just all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, I hadn't factored in how much free time
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  Speaker 1: I would have when I didn't have to have a relationship.
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  Speaker 3: You business, I was like, I've never been so productive.
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  Speaker 3: I was, Actually, it's it's more efficient.
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  Speaker 1: It's not as filled with love that it's definitely way
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  Speaker 1: more efficient.
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  Speaker 2: So what you find yourself you get high? Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I suppose you do. You two definitely tear and stuff
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  Speaker 2: all day, all day.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't know where she is.
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  Speaker 3: Matt calls me minimum eight times a day.
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  Speaker 4: Not for me, you guys also kissing public. What's that about?
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  Speaker 3: We love each other?
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  Speaker 2: Is that? What that is?
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  Speaker 1: Is that?
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  Speaker 5: What that is?
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  Speaker 3: I had a question for you.
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  Speaker 1: So Matt and I have been talking quite a bit
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  Speaker 1: about whether or not we want to have a third child,
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  Speaker 1: and I know he's talked about it on this podcast. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know your opinion on it.
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  Speaker 2: I know every time it's mentioned, it just get skipped over,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't exist.
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  Speaker 3: No, it is like you exist.
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  Speaker 1: Because when I talk to Britt about it, she's he's
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  Speaker 1: not thrilled.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not thrilled.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's really quite weird talking about wanting to
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  Speaker 1: have a third child and not having any of your
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  Speaker 1: closest friends happy.
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  Speaker 2: About thrilled and happy very different. Okay, right, I think
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  Speaker 2: happy about happy for you?
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  Speaker 4: I would be sounded like Yoda. Then happy for you.
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  Speaker 2: I would be, but not thrilled, but not thrilled about
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  Speaker 2: it because it's logistically already, I've got Matt and I
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  Speaker 2: both like run this podcast. We both do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of parenting.
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  Speaker 3: You guys, parents are we don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I forget.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just the best friend to my kids. We do
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  Speaker 2: we you know, And logistically it's like drop off, pick up,
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  Speaker 2: you know what it's like.
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  Speaker 3: It's like.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying. It's just an extra, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But I would be heard and one might call my
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  Speaker 2: friend unborn unborn, non existent child non existent features.
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  Speaker 1: My hypothetical child is a burden to both podcasts, but
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  Speaker 1: a joy to the world.
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  Speaker 4: It'll get forgotten about.
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  Speaker 3: It will be but like you know, it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: the kids will love it. Molly and Lola, we love it.
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  Speaker 2: They'll walk it, they'll feed it. Just get another animal.
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  Speaker 3: It'll give them something to be responsible for.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know why I think it'd be not meant
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  Speaker 2: because you got the cat and that was that was
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  Speaker 2: a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: The cat has been great. The cat she's giving back now.
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  Speaker 3: I told you. I think I mentioned it last week
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  Speaker 3: on the show So Bad influence.
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  Speaker 1: She is, she's I said this. She's a street cat.
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  Speaker 1: She's from the she's bushel to cat. But she's getting sweeter.
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  Speaker 1: She sleeps in bed now, like with Lola. Specifically, she
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  Speaker 1: follows Lola.
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  Speaker 3: Around the house. You yeah, And then when Lola.
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  Speaker 1: Migrates from her bed to my bed in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the night, the cat comes.
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  Speaker 3: I like it. I actually am considering putting that in
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  Speaker 3: the other room and the cat from now on.
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  Speaker 4: You should.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't he sleep like this though he's yes, the elbows
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  Speaker 2: are God.
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  Speaker 1: I forget the stories that he tells on this show.
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  Speaker 1: He literally sleeps with both elbows out like he's like.
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  Speaker 3: Two little triangles.
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  Speaker 1: On either side, and there's nothing less warm and cuddly
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  Speaker 1: and loving. Then waking up to an elbow facing you directly, like.
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  Speaker 2: He's also skin and bones, so it's like it'd be
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  Speaker 2: like gonna go for a cuddle against the skeleton.
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  Speaker 4: You'd be like, oh, he.
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  Speaker 3: Will be when he comes back from celebt.
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  Speaker 4: I know I'm worried about him.
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  Speaker 3: Well this so we're recording this episode.
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  Speaker 1: We're recording a little bit early to fit in with
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  Speaker 1: the very busy schedules.
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  Speaker 3: But Matt's now been in the jungle for about a
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  Speaker 3: week and.
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  Speaker 1: We were all together watching the very first episode.
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  Speaker 4: Launch party.
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  Speaker 1: We had a launch party with all of Matt's friends
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  Speaker 1: and we let the kids stay up really late to
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  Speaker 1: watch him on the show. And it didn't go down
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  Speaker 1: exactly as I expected it to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the children in the room were a
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  Speaker 2: bit I was a bit unsure about it. I think
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  Speaker 2: is a you know, I thought they were pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: I think I've tried to explain to Oscar what where
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  Speaker 2: Mattie is. Macy's really concerned, of.
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  Speaker 3: Course, because her husband's like comed snakes and crying.
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  Speaker 4: They were just a bit overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think we overshot it.
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  Speaker 1: So I've always kind of expected that if I show
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  Speaker 1: enthusiasm for something and like I'm excited about it, like
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  Speaker 1: for example, when we went to the football, when we're
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  Speaker 1: really excited about something, even if it is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit contact or a bit violent, because like even sometimes
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  Speaker 1: watching the foot he can be a bit full on.
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  Speaker 2: For kids, if.
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  Speaker 1: We're excited about it, then they know that there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: to worry about and that everyone's fine. And so I
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  Speaker 1: kind of thought, well, yeah, there might be some scary parts,
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  Speaker 1: but having everyone over at the house and everyone being
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  Speaker 1: excited their format, they'll understand that even though it might
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  Speaker 1: seem a bit scary, like Daddy's actually really excited about
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  Speaker 1: this thing that he's going to do, and they'll process
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  Speaker 1: it slightly differently.
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  Speaker 3: But it was very wrong.
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  Speaker 1: So the episode started and it had only been on
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  Speaker 1: for maybe fifteen twenty minutes, and Mary was inconsolable.
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  Speaker 4: That wasn't even on yet.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was the music, and it was all
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  Speaker 1: of the it was all of the previews of what was.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up, a bit of previous seasons horror, remember, because
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  Speaker 2: Britt was there, and because we know Britt was on
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  Speaker 2: the show last season, and there was like a shot
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  Speaker 2: of her getting covered by a snake or something. There
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  Speaker 2: was all of the quick fire shots with like the music, which, look,
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  Speaker 2: if you're five and four years old or whatever, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be overwhelming. Yeah, Daddy wasn't even on yet.
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  Speaker 3: So when Matt finally came on, Mally was.
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  Speaker 1: She was hysterical and she kept saying, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: want Daddy to be hurt, and I just don't want
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  Speaker 1: Daddy to be scared. And it broke my little heart
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  Speaker 1: because now we're in a situation where she really wants
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  Speaker 1: to watch it, but she's absolutely fucking petrified of I'm
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  Speaker 1: a celeb, and I think I kind of learned something
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  Speaker 1: in that night. So I was trying to like rationalize
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  Speaker 1: with her, and you can't.
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  Speaker 3: Rationalize with the five year old.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, get tunnel vision.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Daddy's okay, and like Daddy's excited.
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  Speaker 1: About it, and you know, you know when you're when
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  Speaker 1: you're going swimming and you jump off and you jump
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  Speaker 1: into the pool and it's a bit scary, but it's
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  Speaker 1: exciting and you're proud of yourself after you've done it.
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  Speaker 3: And then she she went from that.
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  Speaker 1: It was like she was half listening to me, then
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  Speaker 1: to then like screaming, crying again, And the only thing
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  Speaker 1: that seemed to distract her.
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  Speaker 3: Away from her manic crying.
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  Speaker 2: Was you ash, I know, I come to the rescue,
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  Speaker 2: id apon capon. I went with the parenting technique called distraction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you did, and it was it's usually distraction or
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  Speaker 1: bribery that works well at our household.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why I tried something else.
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  Speaker 4: He tried a rationale.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, I'm holding space to be a big feeling
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  Speaker 1: fucking chocolate.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a chocolate.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up.
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  Speaker 3: It was the I'll give you a chocolate if you
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  Speaker 3: stop crying.
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  Speaker 2: It was the Maddie J bingo card. I saw him
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  Speaker 2: on the bench, and producer just created a bingo thing
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  Speaker 2: for things Matt does.
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  Speaker 1: I actually thought it was a drinking game, and I
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  Speaker 1: was at that point I was okay that you'd give him,
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  Speaker 1: my five year old a drinking game.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, anything makes the.
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  Speaker 4: Stock, that makes it so.
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  Speaker 2: But the the I think, the thought of her being
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  Speaker 2: able to tick off things her daddy does, yeah, was
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  Speaker 2: something that was like, oh, instead of like worrying about him,
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  Speaker 2: I can tick off things. And she got to put
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  Speaker 2: a sticker and made a bad joke because he made
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  Speaker 2: a bad joke immediately because that's his style. And then
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  Speaker 2: obviously last night he cried, which was a really nice moment.
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  Speaker 3: It was a beautiful moment.
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  Speaker 4: Then did he make a symbol?
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  Speaker 1: No, So unfortunately that was another reason why Molly started crying,
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  Speaker 1: was because she was looking out for the love heart
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  Speaker 1: that we talked about on last episode. Matt has this
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  Speaker 1: symbol that he's going to do for the girls while
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  Speaker 1: he's in the jungle, to show them that he's thinking
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  Speaker 1: of them, and he just forgot.
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  Speaker 3: To do it all night one. Look, he had other
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  Speaker 3: things going on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And Marley, she.
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  Speaker 1: Glocked it that Daddy did not think of her and.
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  Speaker 3: She was quite upset.
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  Speaker 2: I recall because I was like, Ezy, honestly, he've been
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  Speaker 2: on TV for two minutes, but did he do it
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  Speaker 2: last night?
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  Speaker 3: He did it last night?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But she was asleep because the I'm a Celebrity
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  Speaker 1: is no longer on TV at all.
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  Speaker 4: Ever, smart, there's a parenting lie right there. That's very good.
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  Speaker 1: She said, I want to watch Daddy tonight, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, unfortunately, it's just not on tonight.
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  Speaker 3: It's just the tennis.
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  Speaker 4: Tennis actually not a bad result.
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  Speaker 2: But I do recall Lola was pretty calm about it
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  Speaker 2: until he came on TV.
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  Speaker 1: No, Lola was calm about it until it was nine
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  Speaker 1: o'clock and two I was past her bedtime, and then
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  Speaker 1: she was just she was absolutely irate with tiredness.
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  Speaker 4: Oh she did disappear because she.
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  Speaker 3: She got really upset.
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  Speaker 1: But then I realized, actually, she doesn't care about what
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  Speaker 1: happens to match.
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  Speaker 3: She's just tired. She needs to go to bed.
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  Speaker 2: So I took her upstairs, like you feed into the
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  Speaker 2: snakes already, I'm off to bed. Don't wake me up.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's why I said, Tomiley, I was like, out
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  Speaker 2: of your house. I was like, where's she's like, she's
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  Speaker 2: got to sleep. I was like, oh, I wonder why
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  Speaker 2: it's not as loud as it usually is around.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to say, though, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you guys are watching it, actually, do you know what?
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  Speaker 3: If you're not watching it? Who cares? Go and sign
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  Speaker 3: up to ten play.
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  Speaker 1: You can vote ten times a day to either get
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  Speaker 1: Matt into a trial or to keep him in the jungle.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're enjoying these episodes, with just Ash and
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  Speaker 1: I let's keep him in.
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  Speaker 2: There for keep forever, keep him in there.
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  Speaker 1: But the only other thing I wanted to say about
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  Speaker 1: celeb is you.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of touched on it. Ash.
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  Speaker 1: There was this really beautiful conversation that happened between Reggie.
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  Speaker 3: Reggie.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with who she is, she is
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  Speaker 1: a two times winner of Big Brother.
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  Speaker 4: That's a huge cute.
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  Speaker 2: To even be on that show back in its heyday
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  Speaker 2: was a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's unfathomable just how big that show was.
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  Speaker 1: Like you if you were on that show and you
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  Speaker 1: did well on that show, like you were a mega
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  Speaker 1: Australian superstar.
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  Speaker 2: Like I remember as a kid, it was like Big
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  Speaker 2: Brothers on everyone shut up. It got everyone's attention.
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  Speaker 1: And it was also the time of TV heyday when
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  Speaker 1: like you didn't have digital TV, so everybody would go
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  Speaker 1: home and watch the same things, like you had the
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  Speaker 1: attention of the nation. Yeah, so Reggie one Big Brother,
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  Speaker 1: normal Big Brother, and then she also won Celebrity Big Brother,
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  Speaker 1: So she really I mean, I think she's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Matt's biggest competition in the jungle. But Reggie is pretty
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  Speaker 1: amazing because she has immaculate degeneration, so she's been declared
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  Speaker 1: as legally blind and vision impaired. So she also has
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  Speaker 1: a son who has cystic fibrosis, which you just hear
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  Speaker 1: her story and you think, like, fuck, how is one
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  Speaker 1: person being dealt so many blows? And she really is
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  Speaker 1: just an incredible, incredible woman. And Matt and heir had
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  Speaker 1: this conversation which I think if you watched it, I
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  Speaker 1: was bawling my eyes out around the struggles of her parenting.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys missed it, this was a really special
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  Speaker 1: part of something them.
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  Speaker 3: I had to say, what were you missed? The nasty
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  Speaker 3: then seeing the kids? I think just al missed the kids.
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  Speaker 5: She's a mum who is afraid of never being able
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  Speaker 5: to see your kids again because she's going blind. You like,
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  Speaker 5: all of a sudden, my struggle seems so insignificant.
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  Speaker 1: He just held so much space to have that conversation
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  Speaker 1: with her.
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  Speaker 2: He was treading lightly, but he was giving her so
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  Speaker 2: much room to show her feelings, and then you could
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  Speaker 2: see he was intently listening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, often we don't want to make someone feel uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 1: so often you don't go deep on those questions, Like
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  Speaker 1: if someone says oh, my son has cystic fibrosis.
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  Speaker 3: You think, Oh, I don't want to ask anything because
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Want to be inappropriate and I don't want to push
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  Speaker 1: the envelope in saying something that might be wrong. And
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  Speaker 1: I think most people are on the side of caution.
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  Speaker 1: And there was something really beautiful about him facing that
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  Speaker 1: question front on and having and allowing her to share
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  Speaker 1: her story. It was just like a really special piece
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  Speaker 1: of TV. And I think that like genuine moments like
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  Speaker 1: that a few and far between on free to air TV,
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  Speaker 1: and I had this, I honestly just felt so proud
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  Speaker 1: of him. I was like, fuck, that was wow, what
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  Speaker 1: a special, special thing to witness.
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  Speaker 2: I was a bit emotional about it, and I was
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  Speaker 2: also saying super proud with how he went about it
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  Speaker 2: then obviously being able to show some vulnerability himself. Imagine
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  Speaker 2: if someone said to you, like, there's a chance that
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to your kids will
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  Speaker 2: be there, but you're not going to be able to
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: see them again.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: The last time you'll ever see your children, which is
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: fucked up. Yeah, it's a crazy level, isn't it. I
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: think like, once this show is all over and these
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: guys are back out in the real world. I'm putting
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: it out there. I know I'm not going to be
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: on the podcast then, but you guys are going to
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: interview Reggie.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a great chat.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Incredible anyway. One thing I do hate about the show
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: the ads. Fuck the ads.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: The ads are so bad.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: It's like, do you know what It's like, It's kind
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: of like the network.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to name the network. They'll want to
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: work with me.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I think they know who they are. Everyone knows what
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: you're referring to as, but I'm not going to say it,
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: so it's not you.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: It's it's kind of like the exec swent let's just
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: put every ad into this one show.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: They did because it's the only show that everyone's watching,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: so they're like, we need to get our numbers up.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Then, yeah, I know it's tricky. Isn't it will sell anything.
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: It's literally just it's just ads A Robert Irwin Robert mate,
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: my mate was like my favorite my favorite host is Robot,
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: but also my favorite ads a Robert.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: He's like just ordered light and easy and that was
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: a Hello Fresh. But it's like, oh, I get I
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: know why I can't watch free to air TV anymore.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Like you guys both know I can't concentrate on anything
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: for too long. Imagine giving me a TV show.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: And then being like, we're going to stop it right now.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: How are you watching I'm a sleb or are you
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: just intermittently watching the shorts up on Instagram?
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I'm that I'm all over the plate.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: The only time I intently watched it a little bit
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: was at your place because we were all there.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: But even so, yeah, produce a.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Dress is saying you spend the whole time on your phone.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, look, I feel like we've covered enough.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I'm a chat. The man's not his.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about him for the rest
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: of the episode.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: We do.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: We're talking about how I'm dealing without him.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: We miss him, but we do. We do miss deeply. Ash.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you around whether you would
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: or wouldn't step in as a parent as an adult
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: when two kids are having a fight. So something happened
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: to me yesterday. I was walking home from work and
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: there were two young girls who clearly were sisters, who
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: were riding their Razor scooters just down past the IgA.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: They would have been like maybe nine and seven.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Just as no actually scandalous, just old enough to have
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: probably been like, you know, mum and dad would have
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: been at home, but they obviously just lived on the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: street or lived around that area.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Right, go away for my kids to live on the street.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: We don't get out of here. Gives you're seven or nine? Now,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: how'd you go? Exactly? So you're telling me I want
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: to wait a few more years than I can get
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: rid of him.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently that's a little he's a swag.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: He's a sleeping bag in the fuck out of my house.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: The kids aren't living on the street. They lived in
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: a house on that street, right, I'm guessing I take
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: it back now.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So the little girls are riding their scooters side by side,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and then the older girl must have hit like a
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: little divot in the road or something, because she like zook,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and she knocked into the younger girl, and the young
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: girl fucking asked herself.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: She went flying. Well, they both kind of went flying,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: with the younger girl actually hurt herself.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: So I ran over and I was like, oh my god,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: are you're okay?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Leave us alone?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: My mommy said, don't know to strangers.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: So this little girl stood up and she was obviously
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: so embarrassed and filled with rage to her sister because
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: her sister was the problem. She kicked her sister so
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: fucking hard, straight in the vagina.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: She kicked her sister a full badge, so hard, and
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: I had like an uppercut to the chin, literally to
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: the vagina with joggers on.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, like like a little animal.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I I was so taken aback because I firstly
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I kicked into like parenty.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I thought you were just gonna say I kicked her
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I was so taken aback that I kicked into parenting gear.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Because I ran over to be like, hey, you okay,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, excuse me, don't kick your sister.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And then I realized I was parenting someone else's kids
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: on the street, like and I had a moment where
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, have I crossed a line here? Should
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I just let them just brought it out?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: You reckon? No, I think you've done the right thing,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: do we? I think I think if there's no if
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: their parents aren't around, you have every right to be like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I'm an adult, because that's how you in society. You're
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: seen as an adult. You're eighteen, you can drink, you
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: can do this sort of stuff that the kids can't do,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and I think you can. You can easily say, hey,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: don't kick your fucking sister.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: In the vagina.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: In the vagina you're in the face, kick your somewhere
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: more appropriate. I think you're in every right to be like, hey,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you can't be you let them jewel it out on
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the street's throwing money at them.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Would you step in though?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Because I asked this question of a girlfriend of mine
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: who's also a great parent, actually was Matt's sister, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: she was like, not my circus, not my clowns. I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: would not say anything if it's someone else's kids. And
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I found that interesting because the parental urge in me
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: just could not stop myself.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I think, like, yes, it's each to their own whether
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: they want to get involved or not.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: But I think you are in what capacity.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I think you just said the right thing saying hey,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: don't don't kick your sister.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I've then grounded her for a week.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: She's still grounded good things. She lives on the street,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: but she's like, I'm fine out here. I look, I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: am known for telling off other people's kids, and I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: did have an instance where it backfired.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: What happened.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: If you'd like to hear about that, let.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Me cast you back. It was back when Macy was
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: somewhere between six and nine months old, maybe not closer
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to the nine month mark, so she's still really little,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: sitting up on her own, but that's probably about it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And I went down and met a mate at a
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: pub near my place that has like a little play
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: area for kids. It's not there's not big jungle jins
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: or anything. It's just like a small little play area.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Good for little kids. But like anything over about five,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: they get bored instantly.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I met my mate. It was just us and Macy.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: We go into the kids area. This block of wood
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: comes flying past by. Who exactly it's a bigger kid.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I leaned over with my desk to.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I'd be frightened of you if I was a kid. Really,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I got tattoos. Scary to a kid. Yeah, I know
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you're a big software.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: This kid wasn't yet of me. He would have been
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: like tenkay okay.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And he's obviously there, his family's off whatever. He's there
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: with his little brother and they're laughing about it and whatever.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, well, maybe it was
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: just a one off. And then another block comes flying
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: across the room and I was like, can you not?
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And they were like, what are you gonna do about it?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: What are you gonna do about it?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And then another block comes across and I just stand
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: up and I've got Mazie. She's tiny, and I was like,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: can you stop throwing fucking block? Like lost.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: The other ways you could have dealt with it first,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: but cool we went there.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: It escalated, Look, that is not right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: It wasn't you. You're not a new parent. You've got
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: an older kid.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: That was wrong of me, Yes, okay, that was wrong
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of me to use the languid anyway. That seemed to
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: get his attention because his little brother was like, you
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: can't use naughty words. And they both ran off, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I thought that's a dub on you. Yeah, but I
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: didn't know.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: That at the time. I just thought they'd ran off,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: and I was like, fuck they thank god.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there and then I see the kid
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: come back around the corner and he's come back around
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the corner with dad.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Dad's about six foot four, one hundred and thirty plus kilos,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: full beard, covered in tattoos.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, so that's why he wasn't frightened. Why he was
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: You're like the miniature version of you look like my dad.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: What's more, you.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Look like my dad when my dad was a teenager.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: He's like pretty big best and dad. And I was like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: oh fuck. And then I was looking around for my mate.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: He's disappeared. So I've just sat there with like a
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: nine month old baby.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Fuck.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And then he took one look at me, eyeballed me
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: like you're fucking going to get it, looked down, saw
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Macy and how little she is tiny, put two and
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: two together, turned to his kid and was like, don't
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: throw blocks. And then he looked at me and he goes,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: just don't use that language around my kids.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh god, did he smack your
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: bottom as well?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: He was like and then he turned around.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, yes, absolutely fair.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And also good on him for knowing that, like his
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: kids are not the ones that are always in the right,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was expecting. I was expecting fireworks, but I
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: was going to stand on the ground. I was going
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to let my daughter watching it beat down completely or
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: run away, you take her. I should have known because
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the kid was quite a big kid. It's quite burly.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: What should you have known?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: He's got a be burly dad. He's going to come
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: after me.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: The kid was actually only five.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: He like staunched around the corner and I was like,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you know, in like Madagascar was a big hippopotamus. It's like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I like him junk, That's what it was like. But
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: he was covered in tattoos and I was like, oh fuck,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Know what you're talking about. But the visual image was good.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a big guy.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I actually have a park story for you as well.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So this is a nice little segue. But it was
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: also a moment where I thought, as a parent, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: would have to step in, but actually it was Lola
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: who fucking showed up and I was like, thank you
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: for having a backbone. So what do you mean she
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: showed up? So she has older cousins. I don't know
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: if Matt spoken about them before on the show, but
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: he has three.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: George, you are like.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: That around I can't, okay, George.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so so Matt, well we both do. We have
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: three nieces and nephews. George, who's George who's eight, Merely
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: who is seven, and Charlotte is five, and then obviously
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like Marley's smack in the middle of that, she's five.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And then there is Lola, who is the baby years old.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Eight year old is the eldest.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Eight year old is the eldest.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Was not three, she's almost four.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: She does four and two weeks. So this was this
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: was a couple of weeks ago, so she was still
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: she was still you know, we're still calling her three.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: It was pretty Christmas.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: We were down in Mollymook, right and there's this big
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: playground in Mollymok.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: It's a really cool playground.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: There's so many different sections and it's quite hard to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: keep an eye on five kids running around like fucking
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: manic in this playground is it fenced in, fenced in,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: but loads of different little areas where they can play.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: And there's this one.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Area where it's just bushes, but it's been hollowed out
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: so the kids have almost made like little tracks through
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the bushes so that you can It's a really small
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: it's not deep or anything, but kids can kind of
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: go into the little tunnel in the bushes and then
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: they can come out the other side.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: The kids made this.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: The kids have made it yeah, we got bored in
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the real park. In their own park, they we.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Had like a little rabbit's warren that goes through the bush. Anyway,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: all my kids had gone in, and the cousins as well,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: So all five of them were in their little rabbits
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: warren together and they were playing in there having a
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: great time. After a little while, I realized and clocked
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: that there were some other kids in there, and I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to go on check because that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I was like, they look like the older kids, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: they were.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: They're like, there were s three kids as well, seven
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: to nine. I know about you guys.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Street kids.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Three kids.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: So I clocked it and I kind of got a
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: bit closer, but I was like, oh, nah, they seem
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like they're fine. Walked back over to where Kate was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: standing at sister and then all of a sudden, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: see all of the kids run out except for Lola. Right,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: So all the kids are run out and they're looking
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: a bit upset and they're looking for us, and I
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: was like, what's going on here? So anyway, I get
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Marley and I'm like, what's happened?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Fucking can't find Lola.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: She's nowhere to be seen, and these three little boys
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that were in the tunnel as well were saying bad
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: words and were being naughty and had trapped the kids
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: in the tunnel.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: They'd been trying to get out for a while, but
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: they couldn't get out. The boys had.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Blocked the end of the tunnel, and so then I
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: was like, shit, Lola's still in there. So I run
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: over and at the same time, Lola comes out out,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: but just like saunters out like the guy from Agasa,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and George, who's eight years old, was like, mom, those
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: boys in there said we're little bitches. And we were like, well,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: like what happened? What did you say? And he goes
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't say anything, but Lola said, we're not bitches.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Your bitches, And so all the kids.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Ran out and Lola stayed in there Chad to have
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: a biff with them about.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Their musing bad words.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: That is very good, And there was something in me that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Just I was just so filled with pride over that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I was like when a kid, like when your kids
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: stands up to like another kid.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I also don't think she knows what it means we're
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: not bitches, your bitches.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I could just imagine.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: It once I heard Oscar say to a kid.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Beat it, kid, and Oscar the sweetest beat it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, how Maigs you do hey?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of your kids and updates, we touched
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: on something last week which was Macy's potty training experiences
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and journey, The Potty Training Journey, The Chronicles of the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Potty Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Just a quick update.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: She's doing really well. She's still pooping in a nappy,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: but she's done this thing where she poops in a nappy,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: but she she only poops it when she gets into
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: bed at night, so fucking annoying.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: And then you've got to go in there, like Apel's
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: gonna go in there.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, in there, she's like scalpel. It's like wipe, wipe,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: but she's like got her head torch on.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: So you're doing it as a tag team.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Tag team in that Yeah, okay, I'm actually doing it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just handing her things. But if I don't hand
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: of quick enough, she's like.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Damn it, faster.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Not to one up you on this situation. But the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: only thing worse than a night shit is a bath shit.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And Marley went through a phase when she was a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: kid where the warm water, just something going, and every
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: single night for about seven weeks she pooped in the bar.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Macy's done it. Oscar never done it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It was horrifying. Macey, Macy and Oscar bath together. And
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: when they were a little bit younger, and Macey was
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: every now and then doing a pool in the bar.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You'd hear Oscar be like, oh no, oh, no, it's happening.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: It's happening. Agains like that, and they drained the bar
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and then it all gets stuck in the sink in.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: The I have to fish it out, like vomiting in
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: a sink. It's the same.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I took a photo of Jess is.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Horrified sitting here in the Jess is like, what how
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: did I end up on this podcast?
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: It just panic sets in.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Morley would do it that frequently that we got to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the stage where we were like, we're not refilling a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: bar three washer. We just pick her up then put
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: her underneath the shower so she'd have a bar. We'd
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: wash that anytime she'd poo, showered, go on, rinse her off.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I told this story about Oscar peeing in the bath
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: with his sister in there, but he must have been
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit dehydrated, so it went really yellow. So
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: we were like, what the fuck dude. He was like,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you always pee in the bar and I'm like, I
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: never noticed because you're like hydrated.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: You do what he does?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: He does every time.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I feel like all kids do, they do.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: They won't tell you.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: All adults do as well.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: What you peeing in the bar?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I don't have a bath, but you're pee in the shower.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all the same drains.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: It's just warm. As soon as you get into warm water,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: your body's like it's.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Also like a gateway for pooing in the shower.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: No, you only you do that once and then you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: realize it's really ineffective, and no, never do it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: You only do it when you've got like gastro and
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you're like, can we move, let me get back on.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: The waffle stump, though, so we can stand on this
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: for one second is something that everyone discovers at around
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like seven or eight years old. They try it and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: then they freak the fuck out because it's not going down.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Shn never do it again. No, Yeah, look, I've never
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: been a fan. Back to Macy, Back to me anyway,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Macy's waffle snapping her ship waffle stop. I love how
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: human race has come up with a name for everything
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: so much so that we have a name for stomping
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: ship down a drain called the waffle stomp.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: That is fucking elite level name. Who thought of that?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: And it's also so wildly known that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: It's just word of the year this year in the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Dictionary waffle stump. Anyway, Macy's it's really the Wii training
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: that we're working on.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Wing in the potty of stuff like.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Great, So she's really good. And we're talking about last
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: week how when they get distracted we're playing, they just
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: they forget and they think they've got an appy on.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: And so Oscar and Macy were playing hide and seek.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: That's annoying.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: It's a great game to game to get rid of
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: one of them at a at a time. And I,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: like everyone, I were doing stuff around the house and
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: they're playing, and I was like happy with that, and
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: then I'd hear Macie crying and I was like, what
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the fuck. Anyway, she was hiding in the cupboard, but
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: she was so committed to the game.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: She's weired herself in the carpet.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Bless her. The whole bottom of the puppet puppet of
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: the cupboard was just like a puddle of pears, carpet, floorboards, floorboards, thankfully,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: thank god. But still she was in under the it
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: was in the linen cupboard. So she's in underneath the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: bottom of the linen couvers. So I've got to get
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: down on all fours wiping up pits. And I was
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: in there, and I thought to myself, how did he
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: get to this? How did my life get to this
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: where I'm at the bottom of a fucking linen cupboard
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: wiping up piss.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I think, if you looked back in your twenties, you
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: probably did worse stuff.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't, You didn't.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget when I worked in a nightclub and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: it was like the club had closed. Like I used
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to work in a city nightclub in Woollongong. The club
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: had closed. It was like five o'clock in the morning,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: daylight was coming up. We were cleaning and we found
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a guy passed out in the urine or with urinal
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: cakes letter. So I think, if he can reach that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: point at nineteen, Macey's doing fine, and you're okay too.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I've been in the urine.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: If you've ever laid next to a urinal cake. Well
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: this is only auf from there.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Sorry, she she did well, I said, to her terms
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and I said, that's commitment to the game. Good on
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: commitment to the Hide and Seek game. It also led
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to something that I want to ask you about maybe,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: is like she's an EmPATH. When Oscar hurts himself, the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: first person on scene to make sure he's okay is
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: his little sister. That's really love, that really sweet. Doesn't
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: work both waves. Oscar doesn't care, no, So she's wead
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a self. She's a bit embarrassed. I think she was
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: a bit hysterical about her the name calling, Like how
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: do you stop your kids from name calling? Because that
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: at five years old, four or five whatever, there's a
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: lot of poo pooh, a lot of bum bum chat
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: like that sort of stuff that it turns into like
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: euro bum bump.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: But what happened was.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Is Oscar and Macy they will go you know, butt
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: butt head and stuff like that, which is harmless.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: April was like to Oscar, can you go and console
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: your sister?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And he was just not having any of it, and
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: he turned around mum and called her a dirty little rat.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Time out.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I didn't. I wasn't sitting there, gun.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Where did he even hear that exactly?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And it's like, where have I gone wrong here?
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: Where?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't have the skill set to counsel
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: you on that.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, little little people do. I was cleaning up
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the piece at this stage, so I'm in the cupboard
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: and I kind of heard it, but I didn't really
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: clock what was going on. And then I heard April going,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: what did you call me? And I was like, fuck,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: chance for a fight, I'm out of here.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Wait, so he called April that Macy April wow, called
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: mummy that that's why. And I was like, what the fuck?
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: And I don't say that though.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I staunched down the hallway and he heard me
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: coming and he was like shaking in his boots because
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that's not on. I got to his level and I said,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you don't call people names, especially your mum.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Go to your room. I'll be there in a sec.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And like he usually it's getting him to go to
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: his room is really hard. He was like, fuck, I'm
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: in so much trouble. I'm in so much trouble. And
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: then obviously big time out like we were set to
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: go to the park all this sort of stuff, and
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, you're not going anywhere.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: But I do think with that, like Oscar's only five,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I actually don't think. And the name calling thing, obviously
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: it escalates. Kids know what's naughty. They do it to
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: get a rise. I don't think he has any comprehension
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: about how mean that is.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Yeah, a.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Dirty little rat to ask where like that is? That
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: is vital for a kid to say. But then you're like,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: hold on, Oscar doesn't. He doesn't know. It's like the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: first time he said shit and she had no idea
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: what she was actually saying, but she's she using context perfectly,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: but I was like, hey, you can't use that word.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And then she was horrified that she realized she was
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: using a word that was a naughty.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Rover fucking stuff.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: And like Oscar, April was very good at saying fox
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: sake all the time. And then and I told that
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: story where we're in Fiji and Oscar picked up a
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: pull noodle and screamed into it fox sake in front
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of everyone. But he knew that he had called Mama
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: name that she didn't like because of the reaction. So
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I've and that I didn't yell. I just was like, hey,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: you don't call people names.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Go to your room. I'll be in a second. How
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: do I how do I do this?
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: So I just went in and I was like, hey,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: like reiterated that you don't call people name. I think
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: he was trying to say something along the along the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: lines of like, oh, you're a silly girl, you know
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: what I mean, like something harmless, but it's come out,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: and I think he was even shocked. But my question
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: is like, how do you get because there's been times
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: where I pulled him and his sister up calling each
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: other's names that have escalated pass you know you bum bum.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I also think like we have a kind of it's
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: not a rule, I guess, but it's the same thing
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that they implement a daycare.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: So no toilet words, they're not like.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: They do still say it, and sometimes they say it
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: jokingly and then sometimes it escalates.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But the thing is kids don't.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Have the comprehension around what's escalating, and they don't have
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the self control to realize that they're escalating. But if
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: toilet words are just off the table, even if it's
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: done in a funny way and don't get me wrong,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: they don't abide by it all the time.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: It's a constant battle.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: But as soon as we're hearing the bum bum you're
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: a pooh, you're a wee chat, which is just like
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: they love it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: It's so funny to them, it's like crack.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: It's like it's off the table, Like, no, we don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: use toilet words in this house.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: That's saying that that's the worst for it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: It's tricky because Matt walks around the house farting all
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the time, making jokes about farting.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, that's also a toilet word.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Mathew've done so I know.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: But it's tricky. It's tricky. You kind of lean into
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: the funny parts.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Kids don't quite get where that line is, and I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: guess like it's our job to try and teach them,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: but also we are not perfect.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: That's where I was at. I was kind of like
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: in my head, I was like, how do I approach
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: this with him to explain where the line is? And
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: then I was like, I'm just gonna have to go
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: with a blanket rule. We don't call people names, and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: like stick with that, even if your friends are doing
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: it or whatever.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: It's just like fuck no.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I think if I mean, and like I said, I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: don't have the answers to this stuff either. We're all
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: just feeling our way through this parenting thing. But I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: would say that you handled that perfectly. You didn't yell,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: you didn't get angry. There was like a stop down
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: of like, hey, that's not appropriate, go to your room
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and I will come. That's obviously like frightening for a
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: kid because you're like, what's going to happen? But then
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the repercussions that is simply like you don't get to
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: have that thing that you really wanted to have. Now
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: we're not going to go to the park, and I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: think having some sort of consequence that's parallel to the action.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Kids get that they're smarter than we give him credit for.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: They understand. It's not to say that they're never going
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: to do it again. He will because he knows it
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: gets a big reaction for you, Right, He's gonna do
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: something else. But I think that it's more so like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the consistency of it, because if you're okay with one
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: name and one thing else over here, that's like a
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: confusing message.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Whereas like now that you've said.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, we don't call names, and then you have to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: implement that consistently.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: But you've got to do it right and and like because.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I know, like, look, I thought the toilet humor was harmless. Yeah,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: it's funny. And also when they're a little bit stroppy,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I can be I can be like, I don't know,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: who's a bum bum head, like, and you'll get like
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a little giggle out of them, and they love that shit.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: But then now I'm like, fuck, that's actually bad. Yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: because it can escalate into what that was.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I think you've hit the nail on the head. And
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: also I think so many parents do it. Like we
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: used to lean into that humor as well with the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: kids heaves, you know, yeah, and she'd always get a
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: gigl but you know, like you know where the line
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: is and they don't because they're five or four, you know, And.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: So it's really tricky all like they're making joke. Oh god.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: The thing that we struggle with is like they'll make
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: jokes about it, but then we're in the bath. You've
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: got Lola trying to like smack Maley on the barm
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, come on, guys, private, Like it's just
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: like where's the line, and you're all weird little kids?
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Just stop touch showing gross. Everyone stopped.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I walked into the bathroo the day and Macey was
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: laying on top of Oscar's like face down and she's
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: laying on his back, and I was like.
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: This isn't a gated community, not with your sister.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I was like, he's been watching that Mormon family show.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like the Mormons do.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think they do. You probably have Mormon listeners
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: who are gonna fucking hate that.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Take it off, Jess, No, I leave it in.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe Okay, they're not TASMANI isn't sorry, May I take
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: that back?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: It's like at least one percent of your listenership right there, fifteen.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: But they're both brothers and sisters and lovers. Laura, this
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: question from a listener, and I HAVEVID listener by the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: name of shy Ann has Shane. I think I've pronounced
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: that correctly. If not, I am sorry. Channe, She says,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: how do I speak to my son about his grandma
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: who's currently going through breast cancer and has not long
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: started chemo.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: She has shaved her head and it freaked him out.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: And now every time I ask if he wants to
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: go and see her, he says that he's scared.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Oh that's so hard.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Pull.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I mean hard in all aspects.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that you're going through that as part
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: of your family, but.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Also hard because this is like a big.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: And scary time for him as well, because he doesn't
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: comprehend it right, it doesn't know what's going on. We
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: recently went through something pretty similar my stepdad. He unfortunately,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: he had a prostate cancer and he passed away last year.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time with Neil with the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: girls leading up to him going into palliative care. So
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the girls went into hospital and saw him and spent
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: heaps of time with him. And there came a point
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in his palliative care time where he stopped looking like himself.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: He lost so much weight because of the cancer, because
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: of the treatment. Also, he had chemo years prior, so
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: we lost his hair during that. We just kept this
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: ongoing conversation around that Far is sick, and that Far
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: is not well at the moment, and that you know
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that sometimes when you're sick, you don't look the same
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: as what you look like when you're healthy. And for
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: us I think because we kept the because we saw
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: him so frequently, it wasn't shocking to the girls what
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: was going on, and it wasn't shocking to them. I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: think that they really really responded well to that we
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: talked about him all.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: The time in front of them. We explained a lot
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: of what was going on.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Death is a whole other thing to try and comprehend
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and have conversations about. And I'm in no way am
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I implying that your mum is, you know, in a
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: state where she's like that sick she you know, she
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: might be going through one round of treatment and she'll
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: be amazing afterwards. But I think it's okay to have
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the conversations around when people are not well. Sometimes they
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: look a little bit different, but that they're still the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: same person on the inside. But I think you have
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: to continue having as much exposure with your mom and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: him as possible, and even if that means that for
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: a couple of times he's a little bit timid and
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: isn't exactly the same around Nana.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I think I don't worry about.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: And talk to your mum about it obviously, so she knows,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: so that way, she's also aware that maybe he might
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: not be exactly the same for the first couple of visits,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and then kids they get it. They'll know that Nana
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: will speak in the same way, she'll do something in
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: the same way, and he'll be like, Oh, that's my nana.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: She just doesn't have any hair at the moment.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: They'll have that thing that bonds them in their little
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: relationship that everyone every grandparent has with their grand absolutely
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: that he'll he'll get triggered and be like, you're still
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: the same person.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Also, I kind of like in it, I mean, a
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: comparative situation that's not as sad. Is, like when a
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: dad shaves off their beard for the first time. I'll
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: never forget when when Matt he had a mustache for
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: a really long time and then he shaved it off.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Marley was freaked the fuck out, like she genuinely was.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: She was like, WHOA, I don't know who that guy is,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: but I don't want him to be here. But they
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: are just with exposure in very quick time.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: And I did the same thing when I shaved my
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: ecause every now and then I just shaved my head completely.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: And it's like they all came home from Kenny. Who's
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: this guy at our house. And it's like they got
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: used to it really really quick, Like it's sort of
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: likens to a situation that I had.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: And look at this, this is not as obviously.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: As Comparativemo and K. It's not as comparative Camo and cancer.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And look, obviously wish you and your family are the best.
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  Speaker 2: But I know my grandmother's got false teeth.
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  Speaker 4: Here's one for you.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: So the kids, yeah, imatch it out horrifying.
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  Speaker 2: She popped it out as a joke and then for
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: months trying to get them back to her house. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, because she's been doing it since I was
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: a kid, so I'm so used to it she does
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: as a joke. She goes no, like it's she's a
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: joke star, that's what she does. And they didn't quite
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: respond with their like, ah, the lollly teeth, all every
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: lie under the sun. But like it took them a
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: while to regain not trust, but regain the love for
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: her in a way because they were freaked out by that.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I was scared.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: They don't quite understand that. Okay, well Nan lost her
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: teeth a long time ago.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: She ate to me in lollies.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: The continuation of the conversation probably helps to wrap their
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: head around it much better than just being like they're
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: sick and they're like, well, I don't get it. So
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: does everyone who's sick look like that?
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And also I think kids comprehend way more than you
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: give them credit for. So when Neil was going through chemo,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: we explained that Neil has to go to the hospital.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Really we didn't talk about cancer. I think that was
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit big mallards only five. But we talked
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: about the fact that he was really, really sick, and
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: then we introduced the concept of him going up to
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: the stars and how one day he's not gonna be
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: here anymore. And we did that in such a way
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: that I think because it was this continuous, frequent conversation,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: nothing was a surprise, and it was done in little
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: bits in this instance which you know, it's it's she's
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: lost her hair and it's chemo treatment. I think it's
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: okay to have the conversations, but also FaceTime your mom,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: make sure that he's seeing her as much as possible.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Did you see it might not be feasible to travel
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: to see her all the time. Maybe you guys don't
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: live locally, but make sure you're face timing. And I
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: don't mean like, Okay, we're gonna now FaceTime Nana and
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: you're gonna sit here and you're gonna talk to her.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I mean you're on the phone to Nana. You're having
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: your normal.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Great conversation would you're chatting about everything, and then you're
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: also like, hey, little Jimmy, Nana's on the phone. And
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: then and you know, maybe it's like a little bit
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: at first, and then the more that you do that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: over a very short period of time, I have no
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: doubt that he will be like like, oh, it's just Nan.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: You know, she's just sick and she looks a bit
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: different now. But I think the kids respond to how
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: we feel about something. So if you're if this has
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: been a really big thing for you as well, it's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: going to feel even bigger to him.
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: It's they pick up on that stuff well said massively.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I think I think that's good. I mean, I haven't
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: had to face it yet, so I think like if
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I do, oh, actually, yeah, well Dad had a triple
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: bypass last year. I'm trying to explain that my son
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: wanted to see Dad in hospital, and I was like
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: honest with him, and I.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Was like, look, he is really sick at the moment.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't want Oscar to see him like that, because
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: in Oscar's eyes, my dad's his hero. You know, we
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: FaceTime when he was feeling better and stuff like that,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: but just kept the conversation going that he was sick
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: and he's getting.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: There some time.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so hard, I don't think. I mean, I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: think that there needs to be more resources for parents
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to navigate these types of conversations with little humans because
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: it's so heart and you don't want to scare them.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: You don't want to give them more than what they
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: can comprehend.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: But I think that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Kids are way more They can process more than what
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I think we give them credit for. And I think
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: we don't have to shield them from everything, obviously from
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the big stuff, but I do think that the more
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that you talk about some things around them that's age appropriate,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: it helps them process and not feel so isolated from
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the big things that the adults are experiencing in the house.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also for like chance, Mum, like the last
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: thing that she would want is to see your grandson
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and the grands be soide totally. Can you imagine how heartbreaking.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: That would be so I think for both sides of it,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: if you can keep it as normal in the conversations
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: as open as possible, what's happening?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: And another thing to try as well is that go
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: online and show him photos of women who don't have hair,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: because that's like it's when you think about it, a
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: five year old probably hasn't seen very many women who
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: have a shaved head at all.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: You show the video of Jada Smith.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the more that kids see that something
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: is actually normal, it's just not their normal because they've
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: never been exposed.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: To Yeah, they've never seen it before.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like as adults, as we see something like
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: that we've never seen before, we're like, what the.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: Fuck is that?
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Totally can imagine like in their world, how you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Like they really like the biggest things to them are
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: their families, the mom and their dad, their sister or brother,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: if they have the kids that they interact with at kindie,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: that's really their whole world. Throw a bald lady in there,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: imagine I cannot imagine them going, oh okay, they were like,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: what what's happened?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: You never seen a woman with no hair?
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Well, Okay, before before we say like Lee, we do
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: want to say we're thinking of you and thinking of
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: your family and hope that your mum makes a very
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: speedy recovery.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm hoping that recovery, and of course that your
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: son and her can have a long, fruitful relationship.
• 49:53
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