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Weekly Dose of Fat Radio – Show #69 Dudes – Todd The Wild Man Lyons from SE Bikes is Special Guest · Full Spectrum Cycling

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  Weekly Dose of Fat, show number 69 for Friday, August 28th, 2015.
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  [upbeat music] Welcome to our group therapy session for fat bikers.
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  Joining me in the studio is our den leader, Sven Hammer. And across the news desk is the last surviving member of the Archies, Mr. JK Living. And I could very well be Dio Gomez. It's Uncle Gomez for you gringos.
• 0:42
  Hey, salutation scouts. Greetings, my excellent friends. Fat Bike Radio and the Weekly Dose of Fat is sponsored today by the brand new Surly Wednesday and my other brother, Darryl, Tubeless Ready Rims.
• 0:57
  Learn more about getting rad at surlybikes.com. New stuff from Surly, always just like Christmas whenever that happens. What cha. What cha. So JK, what's happening on the show this week?
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  We will be taking call-in guests all show to ask the question: What is the annual fat bike event you most look forward to? This week's special guest is Todd Lyons from SE Bikes. We reveal next week's call-in question.
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  We'll talk fat bike and plus bike news in the Fatty Farm Field Report, and as always, we've got fat and plus sized legs. I love those plus sized legs. Rawr. Rawr. [laughs] Chaser. I'm a chaser.
• 1:41
  So last week's big winner on the show was Evan Larson. He's, uh, he's our pal and he's also a Bike Black Ribbon test pilot, but, uh- He's not a family member though, so he is eligible to win- Absolutely... on the show.
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  Uh, you know, the tone went off. He won. We gave him a fabulous sticker pack, and he actually dropped off a four-pack of, uh, of... What the hell is this? Blood of the Unicorn.
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  Porked Brewing- Menemene, menemene, menemene, menemene... in Chicago. It's a, uh, hoppy red ale, so cheers boys. Cheers. Ding dong. Thanks a lot, Evan.
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  Yeah, Evan, you always- Always, always nice when someone gives us beer. I know. Called Blood of the Unicorn. [laughs] Yeah, Blood of the Unicorn. [laughs] They're tar cans, too. Gnarly, gnarly. Yeah, right on, Evan.
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  So, uh, we got a caller on the line. Let's, uh, see who's, who's calling in. Hey, welcome to the show. Who's on the line? Hey there. How you guys doing, Svenny Gomez and JK? Doing good. Oi, oi. This sounds like Old Bear.
• 2:48
  Yes, it is. [laughs] Calling you from the beautiful Ozarks in the beautiful city of Rolla, Missouri. Nice. How's it going? How's it going down there in Rolla? Pretty good. Been getting a lot of miles in,
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  having unusual co- encounters right in our local trail here with people that wanna go around you in the trail. I had two guys fly past me on fully suspended bikes, and they wound up, uh,
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  passing another lady off trail and hitting a roll of barbed wire fencing- Oh... that was real. Ouch. Oh, that never works out well. It's the speed trails, I always say.
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  I got a neighbor, he stopped and see if I could help them, and they had tubeless tires. Of course, I don't... I ride tubes right now, but I just asked him, "You need help?" And he said, "No, not really."
• 3:33
  Said, "You got stuff to get your tires off?" "Oh, we don't have to. They're tubeless." I said, "Okay. Do you have, do you have a air pump?" I said, "No." "Well, I gotta go. Bye."
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  [laughs] T- just so they didn't have their own air pump? And they called me an exploded- They were, they were- An expert? [laughs]... prepared to practice for racing, but they didn't have a hydration pack on- Oh...
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  with anything they can carry. He had... One guy had a fanny pack on with some patches. Not patches, but stuff to, uh, fix the, the tubeless, I guess. Gotcha. I guess the barbed wire turned their tires into Swiss cheese.
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  Wow. Yeah. You know, they're, they're not the, uh, the panacea for all f- you know, flat forgiveness, but, uh, I do like tubeless, uh, for a lot of things. I'm thinking maybe eventually going tubeless on mine.
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  I just gotta get new wheels. Surly just came out with, uh- Looked, looked good down there... with new tubeless rims. Right. Yeah, they sure did. Mm-hmm. Surly just came out with new tubeless rims.
• 4:29
  Well, they just announced them. I don't know when they're gonna be available, but... That'd be neat. I went out and rode the O- the, uh, Berryman two weeks ago. Oh, really? Did the whole lap.
• 4:39
  Oh, man, that is a hell of a ride. The whole lap. It was great. That is- It was a riot. That is a big ride. Right on, man. It's over 24 miles. Wow. I know, but- It's over 24 miles...
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  those last seven climbs in the Berryman Campground are burly, you know? They just- I have, I have to get off and walk a couple of them, but I try to get up the best I can or, or else I run out of gears.
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  Now, have you, have you s- cut up your tires at all ride, riding down there? [laughs] No, not at all. My rear tire's worn out now. I gotta get a new rear tire. I'm, I'm probably gonna get two new...
• 5:14
  I probably can get two, two, uh, Surly Nards. Oh, good call. Yeah, it's a good all-around tire. Absolutely. Right now I'm on Mission, B Missions. Mm-hmm. The stock tires on my Gravity. Yeah.
• 5:27
  I think you're gonna find a pretty pleasant surprise when you put on a tire like a Nard versus what came on that bike stock. It's just gonna... It's a whole new- Yeah... experience. Yeah, I agree. So, uh- Yeah...
• 5:37
  Old Bear, we got a- It's good... we, we got a question of the week. Um, did you- Okay... catch what it is? Is, is there an annual fat bike event in your area or anywhere that you look forward to going to?
• 5:50
  Well, I'm hoping next year to go to Dirt Fest. Not Dirt Fest, but the, uh, the Bentonville Mountain Bike Fest and see what goes on down there. Oh, cool. We don't have any fat bike fests here. That's all right.
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  Well, not yet. Not yet. Yeah. [laughs] Not yet. Ol- Old Bear can arrange- That's all right... one. We'll come down. Yeah. Heck yeah. Yeah, we can do that. [laughs] Yeah, so Old Bear, we've got to, uh, give Mr.
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  Todd Lyons a call. He's our special guest this week. Do you wanna hang out and listen to what, uh, Todd from SE Bikes- Yeah... has to say? All right. Sure. Okay, hang on the line. I'm gonna give him a shout, all right?
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  All right. Talk to you in a bit. Hey, so listen up. This is your brain. La, la, la-la, la, la. Sing a happy song. La, la, la-la, la, la. Smurf the whole day long.
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  And this is your brain on plusbikes.com. [upbeat music] Any questions? You're tuned to Fat Bike Radio.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the show. We have with us on the phone three-time world BMX champion, Mr. Todd "The Wild Man" Lyons. Welcome to the show, Todd. How you guys doing? Thanks for having me on here.
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  Right on.
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  Well, the reason that we have Todd on the show is because he is the brand manager at SE Bikes, and they've got a new model called the Fat Ripper, and we wanted to hear more about that and talk to the guy that actually made that bike happen and, and, and what it's all about.
• 7:36
  Yeah, the, the, you know, the Fat Ripper was, uh, you know, last summer was when it first, we first started kicking around the idea, you know?
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  It was actually one of our sales reps in Southern California, you know, and I live out here in Huntington Beach, California.
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  But one of our sales reps was like, "Hey, you guys should, you should, we should make a fat PK Ripper," you know? [laughs] And I was like, "Uh, I don't know," you know?
• 7:55
  It's like, you know, "We've done a lot of stuff with the PK," and I was like, "I don't know about making a fat bike."
• 7:59
  But my, my thinking was it was just gonna be like, you know, a PK Ripper with fat tires and, and that was like the, the novelty of it. Mm-hmm. You know?
• 8:07
  And then I, I started thinking about it a bit more, and I was like, "Well, you know what? That might be kind of cool," you know? I was like, "That could be really interesting."
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  Anyway, so sure enough, you know, I, I, I got it approved with our, you know, with SE's parent company.
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  You know, and I'm also, I'm the brand manager and also the product manager, you know, so I go over to our factory over in Asia, um, you know, and, and design the bikes and, you know, do the product testing and all that.
• 8:30
  Cool. Um, so, so anyway, so it was last summer that, uh, you know, we first started kick... Actually, it was earlier than that. It was, I think, in April when we first started talking about it.
• 8:38
  And then, uh, in the summertime, you know, I s- we, you know, I worked with, you know, uh, working up the frame drawings and stuff.
• 8:44
  A- and actually, in the very beginning, you know, because I'm a, I'm a full BMX guy, you know? S- SE's a BMX brand.
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  You know, we make a lot of other bikes now, too, like urban, you know, fixed gear, single-speed bikes, and actually mountain bikes and road bikes, but, but at its core- And a fat bike [laughs]... you know, SE...
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  Yeah, and, yeah, well, yeah, and, well, yeah, and a fat bike, exactly. The Fatty and the Fatter, you know- Right... those, those just came out in the last couple years. Right.
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  But at the core, you know, SE is a BMX company from back in the day. Oh, hell yeah. Like the '70s. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I'm a BMX guy from the early '80s, you know? I'm, I'm, I'm a, you know, I bleed green BMX, you know?
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  Um, so anyway, the, the... But I didn't really know a lot about, you know, fat bikes, you know?
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  I mean, I, I, you know, I didn't know the, the specifics, you know, because, you know, we have the Fatty and the Fatter, but I'm actually not the product manager for those bikes, and those are, you know, mount- those are geared mountain bike fat bikes.
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  Right. You know? So we have another product manager that designed those.
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  So, you know, there are some other fat bikes in the line, but like I said, I wasn't the, the brains, so to speak, behind the engineering of those bikes. Right on.
• 9:44
  So the whole develop- Yeah, so for me to develop a fat bike was all kind of new- [laughs]... you know, for, for me. Yeah. Yeah, you know- Um, you know-...
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  and just, just as an aside, uh, Todd, we, y- I, we were out in California for, uh, Sea Otter and didn't really see a lot of fat bikes around.
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  Is it, like, there just aren't fat bikes in California, or did we just miss all the people on 'em? Hmm. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't, I haven't been to Sea Otter.
• 10:09
  I can't, I can't talk for Sea Otter, but I, I mean, I definitely see fat bikes around. Right on.
• 10:14
  Um, but, but yeah, I haven't been to Sea Otter in the last, like, five, five years, but that, that's interesting you said that. I would've thought it would've been flooded.
• 10:20
  Um, I know, you know, I go to Interbike every year, and Inter- Interbike's coming up in two weeks, and I know in the last two years, especially last year, every single booth, or not every single booth, but it seemed like every booth had a fat bike, you know?
• 10:32
  It's like- Yeah... there wasn't, you, you couldn't walk by a bike company's booth without seeing at least one fat bike. Right. You know? That's 'cause everybody looks at our website and they know how fun they are. Yeah.
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  [laughs] We like, we like to think we're responsible for that. Yeah, it's all our fault. Thanks. [laughs] But, uh, anyway, I didn't really wanna... I...
• 10:45
  Sorry about interrupting you, but you were talking about how- Yeah... you know, the, the, that the existing SE fat bikes were more the mountain bike style fat bike, but you had this- Yeah, exactly...
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  Fat Ripper thing going on. Right, so you're gonna bring- Yeah, so-... BF- fat to BMX, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, and, and like I said, in the beginning, I thought it would just kind of be,
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  you know, not a novelty, but kind of. You know, oh, yeah, that'd be kind of interesting, you know? That'd look kind of cool. You know, it'd look cool.
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  You know, that'd be an interesting, you know, bike, you know, to have a, you know, PK Ripper with, uh, you know, 26-inch PK Ripper with fat, fat tires. Right.
• 11:18
  And anyway, but then I was like, "Well, shoot, you know, I don't know anything about bottom bracket spacing," at, at the time. You know, we're going back a year ago- Sure... before I even started this project.
• 11:26
  I didn't know anything about fork spacing, rear, rear hub, you know, rear hub width, rear, you know, rear a- or rear, rear, rear, uh, rear chainsta- you know, the spacing of the dropouts and, and then the, and then the angles and everything.
• 11:37
  I was like, "Well, shoot, how, how much does that tire throw off the normal angles of a 26-inch bike? You know, we can't just use a normal..."
• 11:44
  Anyway, so, so I actually, ironically enough, just went online and started kind of searching around, and obviously just all my own research and talking to some people.
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  But there was no fat BMX bike, you know, besides, you know, the Walmart Mongoose. Right. But that's not, you know, what we were going for. [laughs] You know? It's like, "Hey, hey." Hallelujah. We're like, they're like,
• 12:03
  "Hey, hey, you, you guys weren't first. You know, the Mongoose had a fat BMX bike." [laughs] The, the bike had, the bike had coaster, it's got a coaster brake on it, and it retailed for, like, $299.
• 12:12
  You know, ours is gonna retail for 850 bucks. Anyway, so, so there really wasn't anything to look at, and I wasn't, definitely wasn't gonna look at the Mongoose geometry. [laughs] Um- Good call...
• 12:22
  so anyways, I was, just started, yeah, researching online and, and, you know, sure enough, I ran into- The Facebook page, you know, Fat Bike BMX- Sure... Todd Shanker. Right. And I believe he's over in I- Iowa.
• 12:34
  Yeah, he was just- So I looked-... on the show last week, I think. Right. Yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah. So, you know, I, I, I, I, I tracked him down. I got ahold of him, and we, we talked on the phone.
• 12:43
  And, and, and he was, like, kind of the early, you know, kind of, you know, brain...
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  Not a brainchild, so to speak, you know, but, but helped me, just guide me along with what's normal, what's not normal, what, what the kinda, you know, what we wanna be on, what trend we wanna be on top of with, with, mainly with spacing and, and then the width of the hubs.
• 13:02
  Or I'm sorry, the width of the, the rims. You know, how big of tires, you know, 'cause I didn't know. Shoot, do we need a 4.7? Do we need a 4.0, you know? And- Sure... we ended up going with a 3.5-inch tire.
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  But anyway, so he was, he was really helpful, you know? And then what he... You know, he's got a Salsa Muck, Muckluck- Right...
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  that he basically turned, turned into a BMX- I mean, turned, you know, tried to kinda turn that into a BMX bike. You know, a fat BMX bike.
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  And, you know, so I kinda talked with him, like, "Hey, well, what geometry works on that bike? What doesn't? What would...
• 13:30
  You know, if in a perfect world, what would you wanna see, or what would you do to that bike to make that bike even better?" You know? Yeah.
• 13:36
  And by no means did we, you know, copy anything from the Salsa bike, but that was just kind of like the... That was what he was riding- Yeah...
• 13:42
  and that was a photo I could see that semi-what resembled a fat BMX bike, you know?
• 13:48
  And then, you know, I, you know, I went to a lot of different, you know, brands, websites, seeing the, seeing the normal geometries and stuff. But like I said, all of these bikes are built as mountain bikes. Sure.
• 13:57
  You know, we're making a fat BMX bike. You know, it was, it was just- It's even got a landing gear fork on it... you know, testing it out. Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got... Yeah, so yeah, it's...
• 14:06
  Yeah, the, the, the bike, we... I'll talk about the, the actual bike in a second, but yeah, it's, it's...
• 14:11
  You know, anyway, so what was really unique is, you know, he was my, the first guy I talked to, and pretty, pretty much the only guy.
• 14:17
  I talked to a couple other industry guys, you know, about, like I said, just what's normal with spacing and, and whatnot.
• 14:22
  You know, fast-forward to, uh, my second trip in the product cycle for their 2016 line, my second trip over to Asia. Mm-hmm. I mean, our factory's in China, and I was there in January, and...
• 14:35
  This past January, you know, about, you know, seven months ago. And they had the... You know, we had the s- they had the sample there ready for me to ride. Oh, cool. Oh, nice. And, and the, and the sample, you know...
• 14:45
  I mean, this is a PK Ripper fat bike. You know, we call it the Fat Ripper. Mm-hmm.
• 14:49
  And for anyone that knows the PK Ripper, or r- actually, better yet, for anyone who doesn't know the PK Ripper, the P- PK Ripper, you know, was actually in the SE Bikes line back when SE was called SE Racing.
• 15:03
  But it was in the line in the '70s, and it went on to become the most famous BMX bike of all time. Right. It was huge. It w- ridiculously popular in the early '80s and late '80s. Um- I had one...
• 15:15
  and, you know, the- Yeah, so did we. [laughs] That... [laughs] All right. Well, uh, n- nothing more needs to be said. Right. Um- All, all that means is that I'm old, Todd. Anyway- That's what that means. [laughs] Yeah.
• 15:26
  [laughs] But, well, what's cool, as you guys well know, if you had a PK Ripper back in the '80s, you were the coolest kid on the block, you know? It was like- Those are not saying nothing...
• 15:35
  there was a, there was an au- yeah, there was, like, an aura, like something about the PK Ripper. If somebody had a PK Ripper, they were so cool, you know? And that's kind of the mystique we ch- still try to keep.
• 15:45
  Um, anyway, so when I went to...
• 15:47
  When I designed the frames and when I designed the bike, and we designed a lot of parts around the bike, the concept was to take the aesthetics, you know, that design, you know, of the PK Ripper, that classic PK Ripper- Mm-hmm...
• 16:00
  and put it on this fat bike. Sure. Meaning, it has, it has flow wool tubing, which is the flat, flat oval tubing on the top tube and down tube that the PK Ripper had. It's got a loot tail rear end.
• 16:12
  You know, the chain stays meet- Pretty cool... they loop around as, as all, all one tube. It's got the gusset between the, the he- the top tube and down tube at the head tube junction- Yeah...
• 16:21
  exactly like the o- original PK Ripper. I'm looking at a picture of it right now. [laughs] And you've got the, uh... Yeah, there you go. Yeah, and it's got the, uh, um...
• 16:28
  And this is, uh, one of the last things we did, and this was purely cosmetic. It wasn't needed, but we actually...
• 16:33
  Actually, if you look at a rear angle photo of the Fat Ripper, um, it's got a brace behind the seat tube that connects to the, to the, to the, to the, uh, seat stays. Mm-hmm.
• 16:43
  And it's just a little, little brace, but that was on the original PK Ripper. So, and then a- and then what we, we talked about a second ago, it's got landing gear forks. You know, that full chromoly landing gear fork.
• 16:53
  So, so we took every little ounce of, of what w- what can make 26-inch Fat Ripper be, have the design aesthetics of the 20, the original PK Ripper, and we were highly successful.
• 17:06
  I mean, it, it's got all of the design elements. Yeah, it's a great looking bike. Um- For sure. No doubt. Yeah, so when I went in there, so... And then, and then on top of that, you know, the parts.
• 17:14
  You know, the, the rims. You know, the rims actually, you know, we have the cutouts in the rims.
• 17:19
  And instead of just doing a circle or a triangle or s- you know, something like that, we actually took the outline of the SE logo, and we call that the, that the bubble logo. Ah, cool.
• 17:27
  So we took the outline of that logo and stamped it out in the rims. So that kinda makes that rim, you know, you know, specific to SE. Um, and then the tires. You know, we have...
• 17:36
  You know, we worked with, uh, with, with a Vee Tire Co. company- Mm-hmm... and, you know, created, created the Chicane Tire, you know? And that tire- Ah... you know, has, has skin walls. Okay. Yeah. You know?
• 17:46
  I- And you never really see a fa- you know, you're, you, maybe you got, you guys are all, you know, maybe you've got... You guys probably, I'm sure, have seen everything in the fat world. But I've never really seen...
• 17:54
  I've seen one o- one other brand. But anyway, you, it's not often you see a fat tire with skin walls, you know? Right, right.
• 18:00
  [laughs] And again, that skin wall immediately makes that resonate with old school classic BMX. And then a- and then also the tire, the, the width is a 3.5 inch.
• 18:09
  You know, we didn't go four, you know, 'cause I wanted this to stay, you know, pretty, you know, be able to ride like a, you know, kind of a BMX bike. Sure. And then also it's got BMX cranks.
• 18:17
  It's got our BMX style chainring. It's got a, a BMX style, old school style stem.
• 18:22
  The handlebars are really cool, like really old school looking, like, uh, almost like a motocross, you know, handlebar from back, you know, on a, on a motorcycle, you know, back in the day.
• 18:32
  So yeah, they, yeah, and then it's got ODI mushroom grips, you know, then it's got the pad set with the SE logo, you know, it's, it's got... It's really, really classic.
• 18:39
  I mean, it, it literally is a P- a PK Ripper's big, fat brother. [laughs] Nice. [laughs] So it is, it is- Which, which is appropriate for a guy that's... How old is PK now?
• 18:48
  He's, uh, he's well over 35, 40 years old, so- Well, it's very-... it makes sense that he's getting a little bit bigger... yeah, Perry, no, Perry, Perry, PK, Perry Kramer, no, he's, he's gotta be...
• 18:58
  He's got out 4- out 40, uh, 40 freaking 3, so he's gotta be, he's gotta be c- uh, ticking on 50, probably- No, I was mostly just talking about the bike that he designed, but [laughs] [laughs] Yeah, yeah.
• 19:09
  I was thinking about Perry. Sorry about Perry. Yeah, I guess we, we, we crossed our streams there. [laughs] Um, anyway- So this is, this, it has all the looks of an old school BMX, uh, PK Ripper- Yeah...
• 19:22
  but what did you do with, with, like, the length of chain stay and the geometry to, to make it work? Yeah, well, well, let me, well, beside...
• 19:32
  Yeah, before we get there, I mean, when I went to the factory, that's all I was gonna talk about [laughs] Oh, that's all right. That's all right. [laughs] That's all good.
• 19:39
  When, uh, when I went to the factory to test the bike, you know, in, I got there in late January, and then, and then I was, you know, testing early February, late January, um, of this year, of 2015, and this is part of our 2016 line of bikes.
• 19:53
  But anyway, so when I was there earlier this year, uh, doing the first testing, I, I, you know, I was like, "Okay, this is gonna be really cool. I'm gonna be able to, like, ride to test this bike."
• 20:02
  And I seriously, like, literally thought- [laughs]...
• 20:04
  I was gonna ride test it, meaning I was just gonna test out the geometry and see, okay, does it steer right, you know, what does this h- and how does this angle, you know, h- yeah, I was literally thinking I was gonna be testing, you know, the sh- the, the, the, the chain stay length and, and the head tube angle.
• 20:18
  I was really worried about the head tube angle, of how it would steer.
• 20:21
  And anyway, when I got there to ride it, you know, I rode it that first morning and I was like, "Holy cow, this thing rides kinda nice," you know, and then I went to the factory and worked all day, and then I got on it that night.
• 20:31
  And then for the next week, I went, like, berserk on that thing. I was like, "Holy cow, this thing, you know, it rides so freaking good."
• 20:38
  And then I started, you know, doing wall rides, jumping up, you know, benches, wheel- you know, manu- manualing across benches, you know, m- what I call, again, ba- ba-donking off curbs, like literally just running, you know, you know, run into a curb and tur- turning that into a little BMX jump, then nose walking this, and wheelie-ing that, and jumping off this and that.
• 20:56
  And I was like, "Wow, this thing rides like, it literally rides like a big, fun BMX bike," you know? And I had no idea that's what was gonna happen.
• 21:04
  Like, like I said, when I, I was thinking originally we're gonna, like, have this, the aesthetics of this PK Ripper and we'll, it'll be a fat Ripper, you know, but I didn't, I didn't really think of how it was gonna ride, you know?
• 21:16
  Like, I mean, I, of, of course, I thought it was, how it was gonna ride, but I didn't think it was gonna ride that well. I had no idea it was gonna ride, you know, a- as well as it did, you know?
• 21:24
  I mean, it was like, "Holy, holy cow, this is a legit BMX bike that I can, I can, you know, ride and do all kinds of BMX tricks on." That's killer. You know, it sounds like a lot of fun. That's kinda funny.
• 21:34
  [laughs] Yeah, that's, yeah. It, y- you, you ended up with a fat bike grin. Did you, do you feel like- Yeah... like it made you feel like a kid again? 'Cause we hear that a lot, for sure. Oh, a hu- 100%.
• 21:44
  I mean, I mean, I've always ridden.
• 21:45
  You know, I've never, like, you know, like, st- I, I'm al- I'm always on my BMX bike and I'm always riding, but, but when you say it makes me feel like a kid again, now I'm looking for...
• 21:54
  You know, I'm riding around scouting spots. Right.
• 21:56
  You know, like, looking for, looking, looking for places I can do this trick and that trick, and where I can do a wall ride, and where I can jump and, and literally places that, you know, I, I've been riding for years, you know, a- and I hadn't seen them before, you know?
• 22:09
  And it's like now I've got on that fat bike, now I've got a, I've got a whole, you know, a whole different, uh, perspective, so to speak. Yeah. Right on.
• 22:18
  That kind of, you know, segues a bit into the fact that you just recently went down to Central America in search of stuff to ride. Yeah. Tell us about that. Yeah, exactly, yeah.
• 22:29
  Yeah, I, I went down to, I went down to Panama, um, Panama City, you know, in Panama, and then I went to, uh, um, Antigua in Guatemala and, uh, took my bike and I just, just, I went down there by myself and took the fat Ripper, and I was just kind of looking for fun stuff to ride and, and it was, yeah, it was an experience.
• 22:46
  You know, it was really, really, really cool. Um, you know, and I'm glad I had the fat, the fat Ripper because the, uh, you know, all the streets in, uh, all the streets in Antigua are cobblestone.
• 22:56
  [laughs] You know, they're just bumpy ass streets, you know, so having the fat Ripper was, was really, really cool having it.
• 23:02
  And then I was doing tricks, and doing little wall rides, and doing wheelies through town, and everyone was just tripping, you know, seeing, seeing somebody- [laughs]
• 23:10
  They're like, "What alien came and hit that old guy on the bike with the big tires and made it all fat and puffy?" [laughs] Yeah, yeah, one, one, on a fat bike, and two, on a fat, you know, PK Ripper, you know?
• 23:21
  Like, people would- Yeah... literally, I'd be eating somewhere and people would be walking up, taking pictures of it and stuff. [laughs] Badass. Right.
• 23:26
  Hell yeah, and you're, you know, you have, you have the skills to pay the bills. You, you could, you could be in the circus if you ever, you know, wanna step down from brand manager.
• 23:34
  Well, speaking of circuses, you're gonna, you said you're gonna be at Interbike. That's coming up in a couple of weeks.
• 23:38
  Oh, yeah, that, that is the we- So we'll, we'll probably hunt you down to actually shake your hand in person-age. Are, are you just- Yeah, yeah...
• 23:44
  are you gonna be in the SE booth or are you gonna be only doing, I guess, appearances? Yeah. No, no, I'll, I'll be, I'll be at, I'll be at the S- SE booth for sure.
• 23:52
  But yeah, we have, we have hundreds of pre-orders for the bike.
• 23:56
  You know, the bike's not coming into stock until, uh, we've got some coming that'll be coming at the end of September, and more will be coming in in October.
• 24:04
  Um, but we've got, we've got hundreds of pre-orders of the bike, you know, and got out that hundreds of Right on... pre-orders.
• 24:19
  Just, you, as they land, you know, people working on their- Oh, Todd, Todd, we're losing you. We're losing your signal. Your, your audio's getting all gi- jangly. Uh, c- can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Yeah.
• 24:31
  [laughs] What's that, is that the Horizon, is that the Horizon guy? That's better. Yeah. There we go. For sure. Okay. So the, the bikes are coming in- Yeah... go ahead and just- Yeah, yeah...
• 24:39
  tell us about availability Yeah, yeah, yeah. The bikes, the bikes are coming in and the first batch is coming in September, then we have, like, 200 more coming in October. You know?
• 24:49
  But, but out of all of that, we're almost pre-sold out of all of them, you know? But then we've got other ones that'll be coming in in January, and I think we have some more that'll be coming in in
• 24:58
  January, something like that. But, but the response has been amazing.
• 25:01
  We, we, uh, SE as a company, I don't think we've had this much, um, uh, early demand, you know, this many pre-orders for a model in a long time, if not ever, you know, to have hundreds of pre-orders for the bike.
• 25:15
  That's killer, man. Yeah, that's- That's-... fantastic... that's what fat bikes can do for a- Right... for a bike company... gla- I'm glad we could create that market. [laughs] Yeah. [laughs] And I think- Hey, hey...
• 25:24
  I think we'll see- Hey, where, where, where, where, where do I send the check? [laughs] [laughs] Probably to some guys up in Alaska, I would imagine. Yeah, probably. Not us. [laughs] Right on. Yeah.
• 25:32
  Yeah, so I think that probably across BMX tracks, uh, in America, starting next summer, you're gonna see divisions for adult fat bike BM- BMX popping up all over the place. Yeah, I could see that taking off- And, uh-...
• 25:46
  even more than cruiser class, for sure. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, I've took my... Yeah, I mean, I've took my bike. You know, I've been riding the one sample.
• 25:53
  You know, that, that sample that I went there and tested, you know, back in January, I, I still have that sample and that's the one I've been riding around for literally six months now.
• 26:01
  You know, and I took it to the local tracks here in California, in Bellflower, Orange, and r- ridden it. You know, and everyone, you know, loves seeing it, wants to try it, you know? But, uh, yeah, it, it's, uh...
• 26:10
  I mean, there's, it's, it's, it's something new for us. And we're kind of fun with SE.
• 26:14
  We're, we're, we're a company and it's, it's a lot of, you know, kind of me being the product manager and brand manager, a lot of times we will create something nobody else will.
• 26:21
  You know, we also have a 29-inch BMX bike called The Big Ripper. You know? Yeah, yeah. And that's been around for a while. My, my good buddy Ryan has one. He loves the hell out of that thing.
• 26:32
  [laughs] Yeah, yeah, 2008 I think was the first year we did. Yeah, so we've been doing that for a while, but no other brand does that, you know? And that was a bike...
• 26:38
  I mean, not, not as dramatic and as, as extreme as the Fat Ripper, but there was no other brand making a 29-inch BMX bike, and we said, "Shoot, let's do it," you know?
• 26:46
  And we did it, and here we are, you know, eight years later, whatever, and it's, and it's one of our good selling bikes, and everyone loves it, you know? So it's...
• 26:53
  You know, and then we've done some other, other, other unique, unique bikes over the years, but, uh, you know. Cool.
• 26:58
  So, so yeah, it's kind of, yeah, kind of, kind of fun for, you know, just, you know, me, me having my history with, you know, BMX and, and then being able to kind of create just something, you know, I, I have a lot of support from the upper management, you know, kind of allow me to, to create these wild setups.
• 27:12
  [laughs] Right on. Yeah, I hope that the, the Fat Ripper does as well as, uh, as some of your other bikes and has a storied history down the road when fat bikes are, you know, around for 40 years. Yeah.
• 27:23
  So you gotta wonder sometimes, like, like, like, yeah, like, like, shoot, will, will there... all of a sudden will there be other brands in the next year that are gonna hop on the fat BMX trend, you know?
• 27:31
  Or it's like, or is it, is it gonna just be us, you know? [laughs] So we'll, we'll, we'll have to kind of, kind of wait and see. But let... And, and I'll end it with this.
• 27:39
  You know, Perry Kra- you know, the, the, the E- E- you know, the PK of the PK Ripper, you know- Mm-hmm...
• 27:43
  stands for Perry Kramer, who was a, you know, a legendary BMX racer that rode for SE back in the, uh, in the '70s and '80s.
• 27:49
  Anyway, you know, one of the first pe- one of the first Fat Rippers that comes in, you know, is going to Perry. Perry's already been bugging me for the last couple months like, "Dude, I need one of those.
• 27:57
  I need one of those," you know? So it's gonna be really cool to see the PK of PK Ripper riding around, you know, on this new Fat Ripper. Hell yeah. That's a picture we wanna put up on our site, bro. Absolutely, yeah.
• 28:07
  Yeah. See if you can score some shots, 'cause we'd love to, uh, show people how much fun a guy that's been in the industry and, and influential for so long- Yeah... can kinda get reinvented- Yeah...
• 28:18
  on something that comes out, you know? So don't be a stranger- Yeah, yeah, yeah... Todd, and don't get any stranger or- [laughs] No. [laughs]... or, or get some strange or whatever you wanna do, man.
• 28:28
  But we are going to bid you adieu. Thanks for being on the show. You rock. Yeah, man. Thanks a lot. Okay. It was awesome. Thank you, guys. And yeah, you're gonna see, you're gonna see. You know, we're, we're...
• 28:38
  Actually, I'm doing the colors and graphics right now and, uh, and parts spec of our 2017 line of bikes and, uh, you know, we're working on the- Wow... 2017 Fat Ripper. You're working in the future. Yes, the future.
• 28:50
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. You are from the future. Oh, Lord. [laughs] Time travel shit again. Hey, we'll, we'll be sure to stop in and, and say howdy at Interbike, but, uh, yeah, again, thanks. Okay.
• 28:59
  It's an honor to have you on the show. I'll be there. Thanks very much. Okay. Thank you, guys. All right. Have a good one. Talk to you guys later. Okay. Thanks. Bye. Okay, bye. Todd Lyons- Todd Lyons... from SE Bikes.
• 29:08
  Can you believe it? I know. Man, he had a lot of- Wild man... he had a lot of interesting stuff to say. I can see why they call him the Wild Man. He's just super enthusiastic. I know. You're tuned to Fat Bike Radio.
• 29:21
  Hi, I'm Coast Kid. I'm on the Scottish east coast riding fat, the spiritual home of the UK fat bike riding scene. I'm just home. I'm drinking a cider and I'm listening to Gomez and Swen on Fat Bike Radio.
• 29:35
  Maybe see yous all on the coast here sometime. Jolly is on the line from Arizona. Jolly Roger. That's right. That's right. So Jolly, uh, we talked about you being a fat ambassador from down the Arizona way. There you go.
• 29:50
  What do you think? I kind of like that. I'll little bit give you a heads-up on things. I've kind of been around and about anyway as is, so, uh, I'm not too far away from some good times or, or trouble, one of the two.
• 30:04
  Well, it sounds very interesting. Do you have, do you feel like you have your finger on the pulse- Pulse... of- [laughs]... of fat biking- No... in the greater- West... Southwestern United States? The great...
• 30:15
  [laughs] So what are conditions like down there right now? Well, it's a little different. Is it still hot? Right now it's pretty good.
• 30:20
  It's a little different down here in that, uh, we're all dirt and a little bit of sand, uh, when you get into the washes.
• 30:27
  But, uh, monsoons have been a little bit active lately and so, uh, we've been dodging some water, but, uh, trails are all good, things are good. But it's hot, so this is kind of our hibernation time.
• 30:39
  Yeah, you guys mostly ride at night when it's so freaking hot outside, right? Just wait till the sun goes down and get out there and boogie at night? That's, that's the intent.
• 30:47
  That's usually what you end up doing at the beginning of the season and then, uh, near the end you end up starting to get up a little earlier just 'cause it's just, it's just too hot even in the evenings.
• 30:56
  So you try to get up, uh, as early as you can and take advantage of the coolest part of the day.
• 31:01
  So yeah, we're still, this is kind of our winter hibernation period, so we're another month, maybe six weeks out, and then things'll start to break open for us. We're waiting to hear from Mr. Chris Reichl.
• 31:13
  I hear he's your homie. I know C- I know Dirty. [laughs] He just, he just texted us then. Yeah, he sexted us. He's, he's in, he's, he's in the waiting room.
• 31:21
  [laughs] Should we, should- No, he has to be [laughs] he has to wait. He has to wait? It's not called the waiting room. Jolly's first. [laughs] It's the green room. So should we bring him on or, or should we, uh- Sure...
• 31:33
  we have like a whole... D- He's, he's an expatriate of, of Arizona. Hey, gentlemen. An expat. So we have now- What's going on, Dirty? There we go. Hey, guys. We got Jolly on the line. How's it going, Chris?
• 31:47
  We got Gomez, JK, Sven. We got, [laughs] we got a veritable, uh, plethora of peoples here right now. We got a little guy. We got a little, little fat bike orgy ri- going on right now. Yeah, buddy. It's group therapy.
• 32:00
  [laughs] Dirty. And, and it's your turn to share, Jolly. Yeah, Jolly put a, Chris, Jolly put his, uh, hat in the ring for being a fatbassador from down Arizona way. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:12
  We, uh, we shred some fat bikes down there in the sand. We get it done. Yeah, yeah. All right.
• 32:17
  I'm, uh, unfortunately I'm, unfortunately, unfortunately I'm sitting, uh, in my tent in Tennessee between a creek and a tobacco field right now on bike tour, so I'm not in the desert. Right on.
• 32:30
  How's the weather where you are? It just broke. Like, it's, I haven't used my sleeping bag in six weeks. I've just been sleeping on, on top of my pad, and tonight I think I'm gonna have to use my sleeping bag.
• 32:42
  Yeah, it's get- It's awesome... it's a little chilly up here in the upper Midwest as well. Hey, Chris. Before I forget- What's up?... you have to tell me what Snapchat is.
• 32:51
  [laughs] And how, and how I can get pict- and how I can get women to send me naked pictures. [laughs] They only last for six seconds, man. I mean- [laughs]... pe- people will do anything.
• 33:04
  [laughs] You sh- you show, you show your age, Gomez. [laughs] [laughs] I know. That's why I have to talk to you, the, the younger generation of star trekkers, to, uh, to find out these things.
• 33:16
  Snapchat's pre- Snapchat is pretty much the number one vector for naked chick pics. [laughs] [laughs] Well, so- That's a, that's a strong endorsement. What- That, that cracked up JK?
• 33:26
  You mean I can't just go next door and look in the window anymore? [laughs] No, there- [laughs] Yeah. You don't have a fa- you don't have a fatbikes.co Snapchat account? Yeah. Get on that. [laughs] We're all about it.
• 33:37
  We're all about it. Yeah, he's already typing away right now- Dirty, just-... with his right hand while he's fondling our- [laughs]... our beer thing with his left hand.
• 33:43
  So Chris is actually on the radio program to, uh, to remind us to pimp his takeover of our Instagram, another technology that the younger generation of today- [laughs] Yeah, you- All you- You go, boy.
• 33:59
  [laughs] All you young kids and your Instagrammers. No, really, we, we have an Instagram, and, uh, Chris is taking it over, and so far no naked chick pictures, but been some scenic pictures of, uh, of Iceland.
• 34:15
  What say you?
• 34:16
  Well, you guys, if you guys are nice enough, if you guys are nice enough to send me on assignment to Iceland for the Lost Forks release, so I thought that I would take all these dozens and dozens and, uh, hundreds of pictures that I took and pick some really fun ones and take over the Instagram account for the week.
• 34:31
  And, uh, and, and show off- Oh, it's just for the week? Oh, I thought we, [laughs] I thought we didn't have to do this anymore. [laughs] He's gonna do it for, for good.
• 34:38
  [laughs] No, no, no, you're just taking over for a week. I mean, I, I mean, I can, but the, the- Oh, and neglect it and say that we-...
• 34:43
  it'll probably end up, it'll probably end up with naked chick pics on there and it'll get shut down. [laughs] That's just natural progression. There are, well, there were already- All right.
• 34:49
  Well, we can always do fatbike.com. We can do fatbike-com. [laughs] We can, we can come up with all sorts of Instagram accounts. Yeah, yeah. You already had a- Hey, we'll, we'll talk after the show.
• 34:59
  [laughs] You already had a nice clothed woman- That's what she said... on, on the, uh, Instagram takeover, so that's always nice. We like to see the ladies riding the bikes with their clothes on, you know? Uh.
• 35:12
  [laughs] So we're, we're- I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll do my best to dig up, dig up some high quality, uh, fat bike ladies. Some hi- See what I can do. Some high quality grannies- Yeah?... would be good for me.
• 35:23
  With pants. Tastefully done. But- [laughs] Black and white really captures the moment. Black and white. Oh, black and white. Stop.
• 35:30
  So two out of the three people in this room are gonna be bumping goobs with, uh, with Dirty down there at Interbike here in a couple of weeks. Is there- Oh, yeah...
• 35:37
  is there anything you're looking forward to down there besides actually the, the man hug with Gomez and whatnot? Yeah. Man, I gotta tell you, uh, dirt demo is my favorite part of Interbike 'cause I just ride everything.
• 35:50
  I finish Monday and Tuesday and I'm exhausted.
• 35:53
  [laughs] I s- I show up, I show up at this, on the floor, contrary to popular belief, not hungover on Wednesday, but completely spent from riding my ass off all day Monday and Tuesday. Yeah? That's my favorite part.
• 36:05
  That was before- I try and ride every single bike... testify, brother. Testify. Dude, dude, that was before you rode across the whole country in two mountain ranges. When we now have super Dirty- Super Dirty...
• 36:16
  so you're gonna be able to ride like twice as many bikes and still pee a stream 16 feet the next day. Yeah, man. Yeah. 'Cause, uh, c- I, I'm, I mean, I, I'm, I'm so, I'm so ready to ride.
• 36:30
  I have 300 miles left, and I'm, I've never actually felt stronger in my life. Right on. I, um- Probably never smelled stronger, either. [laughs] Oh, man. [laughs] I s- I smell like a homeless person.
• 36:42
  It's really terrible. [laughs] But, but, but you are a homeless person. Yeah, but you are. At least for now. Kinda, yeah.
• 36:47
  I mean, I, you know, my, my family's been m- trying to ma- trying to make fun of me, calling me a hippie, and I'm like, "Guys-... probably a hippie. Like- [laughs] You, I, you know, you're growing out the hair, so.
• 37:03
  [laughs] I am. I, I, I've never had long hair before, so I figured I'd grow it out before I don't have it anymore. And, uh- That- that's always been my theory...
• 37:10
  you know, I don't want to- And folks- I left it- Dirty has a lovely- I left a few of the dress codes or-... lovely head of hair. Lovely. Uh, it's like, it's thick. [laughs] And-
• 37:19
  You know, it doesn't really go over well down here in the South. Yeah. Where, like, uh- Oh, they still have that- I, I definitely stick out like a sore thumb... they still have that phobia down there?
• 37:26
  Out of the car, long hair. Yeah, that sort of thing. [laughs] Give me three steps. Give me three steps of mister.
• 37:34
  [laughs] Well, I bet you you can talk yourself out of a ticket, uh, better than anybody else that I know, other than Ricky from- Yeah... the trailer park place. So.
• 37:43
  You- I've o- I've only had one run-in so far this trip- Bet you he's not... in the middle of nowhere Kansas.
• 37:48
  They thought I was a vagrant sleeping in the park, and, uh, I had to convince them that I wasn't a vagrant, I was just a bike hobo. I'm a poet. Yeah, bike hobo, I like that. [laughs] That's a, that's a good term.
• 37:59
  Bike hobo. [laughs] Bike hobo. As they hand off the banjo, it's like, "All right, can you match?" [laughs] Da-da-dee-nee-nee-nee-nee-nee-nee-nee. If you can match. If you can match, then- Oh, then... yeah.
• 38:07
  We can match if we want to. Then you're good for a while. We can leave our matches behind. Lordy, this- If we can't match-... has become quite a-... maybe we don't match... musical show. No, a little bit.
• 38:15
  So Chris, do you have a- It's very polite... do you have an answer to our weekly question? What fat bike event do you look forward to every year? What's your favorite fat bike event?
• 38:25
  Or if not fat bike event, then your favorite bike event. If not your favorite bike event, your favorite porn event. Ooh. Oh. [laughs] I'm so overloaded right now. [laughs] Um, I'm gonna pass on this, guys.
• 38:37
  What is it called? The, the Ball Slappers Ball? What's it called? [laughs] Dirty is in his tent.
• 38:43
  I gotta say, there, there's only, i- in our zone, in Sonoran Desert, there's only one fat bike event, sadly to, to say, and that's, uh, Sand Box Showdown, but high quality.
• 38:53
  Uh, put down, put on in Tucson, and- I think we're, I think that we're a sponsor- Uh-... of that event. Yeah, big, yeah, absolutely. Uh, it's, it's a great party.
• 39:03
  You know, there's bar check-ins and it's definitely worth making a trip for. Uh, favorite bike event that I ride a fat bike at, hands down, uh, 24 Hours of Old Pueblo. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm.
• 39:14
  It's like the, it's the be- best time, best time at a desert ever you will ever have. They call it Burning Man of the desert. It's, it's pretty true. I, uh, I raced that race two years. Yeah.
• 39:23
  Uh, way back sometime in the '90s. Hey, uh, hey, Jolly's still hanging out. Jolly, are you gonna make it down to that event down there in Tucson? The Sand Box Showdown. Yeah, I'll be down in the- Sand Box Showdown...
• 39:32
  uh, Sand Box Showdown down there in Hualapai. So, uh, we are looking forward to that event.
• 39:37
  We're starting to sneak out a little bit of pictures as they're reconnoitering the, uh, this year's route, so we'll see whether it happens, but it should be a good time. Right on, man. You know- Your finger is-...
• 39:45
  you know where to pimp those pictures... on the pulse of fat biking in the greater Southwest United States. [laughs] Pulse. Pulse. Do you know what a- It's racing... G-spot feels like, Jolly?
• 39:56
  [laughs] 'Cause sometimes you can feel a pulse there. By the way, we have an explicit show, so any of you kids listening out there- [laughs]... time to hang up. Put the computer down. Go ride your bike. All right. Well,
• 40:10
  what else should we talk about? Since we've, we've- Spinner's, Spinner's waiting for us to talk to him.
• 40:15
  Well, he hasn't called, so he can just- Well, no, Spinner, Spinner actually texted us, so I was- Oh, he- Spinner's listening to the show too? Geez, where is that guy? He's, he's actually- I haven't seen him...
• 40:25
  he's actually whittling a bike out of a giant sequoia that we're gonna light on fire like Burning Man at Gnome Fest this weekend. Waka jam. Waka j- is he gonna break another bike? Maybe. I don't know.
• 40:36
  He hasn't broken one in a while. Really? Well, that's not like him. That's until he- That's so, that's so un- I bet, I bet that guy-... so like him... is gonna get a Wednesday. I need to be riding my daughter.
• 40:47
  Spinner's riding my daughter. I'm not Spinner. I can't call. I'm sitting right next to you. Oh, what am I doing? [laughs] Oh, my God. Oh, no. Awesome. I know. I feel like I'm in the zoo. Dude. Oh.
• 41:05
  You know- Hey, you know, since we've kind of gone off, [laughs] way off course here- [laughs] The ship is listing... yeah, this thing is about ready to sink.
• 41:14
  Hey, while you're, uh, while you're fiddling with your thumbs over there, can you tell us about Matt from, uh, Planetary Cycles down there in Houston? You, you met him this weekend under- Yeah, I-...
• 41:24
  extraordinary circumstances. Yes. I was, uh, I was riding Kettle Moraine, which I like to do, out there on the connector about, uh, just about as far away as I was gonna get from the car. And, uh, I got a flat.
• 41:38
  And tubeless failed. Uh, I'd failed to see that there was a slit in the side of the tire, so I put a tube in there. I got a mile down the trail, and a gnome fucking poked that little, the hole again. Gnome shame.
• 41:52
  Another, another- Gnome... another flat. Then comes along Matt. He's like, "Hey, how's it going?" I'm like, "Uh, you got a tube or anything?" He's like, "Yep, I definitely got a tube for you."
• 42:05
  So, uh, borrowed his tube, and I still had to walk out. I got another flat. So, but my hat's off to Mr. Matt. Gracias, amigo. Yeah.
• 42:14
  So if you're down there in Texas, you should, uh, Houston, Texas, you should stop in the shop, give him a high five, maybe, uh- Maybe bring him a beer... buy a power bar. You know? From the shop. From the shop. Right on.
• 42:26
  At, at full retail. Yeah, shop, shop guys love power bars. Yeah, they do. [laughs] You made, yeah, you made me come to the register for a power bar? [laughs] I, I just- Dude, buy, buy, buy a cap...
• 42:43
  I, I was- It's the best way to bribe your mechanic. It's the best way. [laughs] I know this show already is listing significantly, but, uh- Hey, we have Spinner riding somewhere...
• 42:52
  I'm gonna go ahead and just make it completely keel over and bring Spinner in Spinner [laughs] What's up, man? Hey, just so you know- You're fucked now... just so, just so you can understand. Yeah, right?
• 43:03
  [laughs] Jolly- You're-... Jolly and Chris- Hi... and, and Gomez and Sven and JK, it is crazy. It's crazy. There's so much internet swagger in this phone booth- [laughs]... that I don't know. [laughs] Swagger.
• 43:17
  Well- Hell yeah [laughs]... Spinner's here to, uh, to just talk a little bit about stuff. Well, actually, he's, he's call- [laughs]... he's calling in to answer this week's question. Tell me a story, Spinner.
• 43:28
  Tell me a story, Spinner. [laughs] And the, and this week's question is actually just like a cover story, a segue into- A segue... the other thing. The other thing. Gateway. That. Gateway drug. It's- So-...
• 43:39
  a gateway drug to hunting gnomes. W- [laughs] what is this week's question again? Hunting gnomes this weekend. Yeah, Spinner- Yeah... so what, what- We're gonna do that...
• 43:46
  fat bike event, uh, do you look forward to every year? What's your, what's your favorite, uh, way to do stu- [laughs] [laughs] Sorry. Stay with us, man. Sorry. Stay with us. Yeah.
• 44:01
  If, if we had video, that was an in studio episode. [laughs] Not- Oh, my God. Holy shit. I just got scolded so hard. [laughs] I need to come out there one time. Sorry.
• 44:11
  I'm gonna come out to Waukee, Milwaukee and drink with you guys just to understand what the fuck is going on. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of partying going on on the radio. Oh, my God.
• 44:18
  [laughs] We're well into our second beer here at, uh, Fat Bike Radio. So welcome back to the show. [laughs] This, this is- Yeah, yeah, yeah... nothing to do with alcohol. Yeah. It's simply just random stupidity flowing.
• 44:29
  Nothing to do with it. I don't know. What's the, what's the, what's the booze haul on that, on those beers? 6.5. 6.5, so that's, you know- Yeah, it's not-... it's my mom's beer, but it's not, it's not crap.
• 44:38
  It actually- [laughs]... you know, we're not, we're not doing the beer thing anymore really, but this is a pretty kick-ass beer. I'll tell you what, I'd drink this again. Blood of the Unicorn.
• 44:47
  Just- Blood of the unicorn... just for the, just for the name. But it's- You drinking the marijuana smoothies over there? [laughs] Marijuana smoothies? No. The- I-... the fish doesn't- What do you know?
• 44:55
  The fish doesn't- What marijuana have you drank?... have any weed in it. What is this marijuana you speak of? Oh. Sounds interesting. Well, it depends on where you're at. [laughs] Yes. All right. It's not everywhere.
• 45:02
  For people that do it hot. [laughs] Hell yeah. All right, Spinner. Some dudes- Spinner... Oktoberfest is broken out up here. Capital Brewery Oktoberfest or just- No... that's what I'm drinking now. Man. Right on.
• 45:13
  I just heard a girl giggle in the background. It's almost October. [laughs] Was that, was that Vivian or was that an actual girl? [laughs] Spinner, do you know what Snapchat is? Oh, Lord. What, what is?
• 45:25
  Do you know what Snapchat is? Snapchat, yeah. It's where you send pictures- Yeah... of your wiener to strangers. [laughs] I know you. That, that's what I use it for. Oh, yeah, dude. That's right.
• 45:38
  I, I think that should be next week's question. That's where, uh, that's where Teabag My Top Tube should have started. Oh. [laughs] Well, welcome back- Come on... to the radio show.
• 45:49
  Yeah, we've got- We have Spinner Raderson-... Spinner Raderson on the line. [laughs] And he's here to answer this week's question. So Spinner, tell me, tell me true, what is your favorite fat bike event of the year?
• 46:02
  Oh, fat bike specific? Well- Or, or- Or any... an event that you would ride your fat bike at... or any that are coming up. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:09
  Yeah, uh, Gnomes Fest is definitely the one where a fat bike will do you the most good because it's, uh, there is no racing, no racers, no racism whatsoever. Well, I take that back because- I-...
• 46:20
  Blackhouse Rules happening [laughs] there's a race going on right before Gnomes Fest is here. Oh, I really drink my beer. So the Dwarfsicle- Yeah... figure eight death race is canceled? That's crazy. The what?
• 46:30
  The figure eight Dwarfsicle death race? No, that is going on. Oh. That is definitely on. I thought you said racism, not racing. [laughs] And I thought, well, Puck is gonna be there, and- He's kind of racist...
• 46:41
  he's kind of a redneck, so. Hey, hey, t- hey, time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. Hey, girls, girls. Time out. Time out. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Don't bring race or bring gender into it.
• 46:50
  For our, for our non-Midwesterners, could somebody tell me what the hell Gnome Fest is? Oh, yeah, sure. It's a- Uh- Spinner can probably do that. Gnomes are- Yeah... delicious when, uh, cooked- Go ahead...
• 47:04
  correctly, and they, they, they, they do not like bicycles. They only like single speed bicycles. They really hate derailleurs. They're all about the one ring thing. They watched, we let...
• 47:15
  One gnome watches The Lord of the Rings, and then they come up with this whole weird mushroom-based one gear thing, and then we go, we hunt them. We- Yeah...
• 47:25
  use a titanium pike, and we poke them right through the top of their pointy head. In fact, they, those pikes go right onto the fire.
• 47:32
  Crispy skin, delicious flesh, and then we dance and drink and ride bikes, and then we d- we, hey, we used to have races. Burnt ends? [laughs] Yes, burnt ends. I like the pointy hats. Okay.
• 47:47
  That's way different than I thought.
• 47:49
  I was just gonna say, like, imagine like a big national bike race, and instead of racing, there's just, like, drugs and alcohol, and you go [laughs] out into the woods and you camp all weekend, and you're probably gonna see some boobs, and you're probably gonna win some stuff.
• 48:03
  Yeah. And there's a poker run, and there's a figure eight death race, and there's a lot of babying. There's baby pools full of- And, uh-... really good beer...
• 48:10
  I'm actually gonna make Steel move from Single Speed Arizona and just get a moving truck and throw everybody in the back and take them to the bar. [laughs] Yeah. Remember, hey- That seems like a cool Friday deal.
• 48:19
  [laughs] Hey, Spinner, uh, Gnome Fest, uh, what was it? Yeah, throw them in the back. Gnome Fest VIII, I think, was that when you and I were the only ones that went to the strip bar? That was two- Yes, that was.
• 48:29
  That was, yeah... 2011. It was just the two of us. It was- Everybody else was all passed out by then... week we got a two-stemmed bed, if it was real. Yeah. Yeah, right.
• 48:35
  [laughs] Everybody, and we came back- Well, that's the, that's the best part about a moving truck. The best part about having a giant U-Haul is that nobody knows where they're going. Oh. Yeah. Everybody gets in- Right.
• 48:45
  Yeah... and you're laying on the floor- I've used that way more often than I'd like to admit... and just hanging out. [laughs] Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
• 48:50
  And the strip clubs that are closest to Platteville have to be fabulous. Yes. Oh. [laughs] Yeah. Dubuque 80- And, and shame- shameless, shameless plug for Single Speed Arizona, uh, first weekend of February
• 49:05
  Oh, we're all about the plugs And, and- [laughs] I think that happened. [laughs] Damn, dude. We're all about plugs, man. [laughs] I'm about plugs. We're, we're just like Conan O'Brien.
• 49:14
  You're on the show to plug your next movie, book, and/or- Oh, that's the kind of plug we're talking about. I'm- [laughs] I'm plugging all my travel. You think Matt is talking about butt plugs.
• 49:24
  They think I'm talking about butt plugs. [laughs] Yeah. Did you s- Fuck these guys. I didn't say, I did not say butt plugs. Sick fucks. [laughs] I didn't say butt plugs. I'll be plugging all of my travel.
• 49:34
  It's a butt plug. [laughs] Bring a seat to Arizona for the month of February. [laughs] I would say it was a great time. I had a great time. I had a fat bike down there and it did wonders in the desert. It was, uh- Yeah.
• 49:45
  Very-... the only time I can, uh, survive down there because that's when the heat is bearable. [laughs] Because it's like 20 below up here, and it was like 70. And you guys are like, "Oh, this is nice."
• 49:54
  I'm like, "I am pink. I am sweating my ass off down here." [laughs] Yeah. We, we, we, we were worried about you a little bit. We thought you might melt up there. [laughs] Yeah. [laughs] Yeah, fur was a bad choice.
• 50:06
  [laughs] I should have worn a old biking outfit, doesn't it? But, uh, no, it was a great time. Well, all right. Now, now we just, uh, uh, we've lost control of the show. That's, that's all right. It's over already.
• 50:17
  Oh, here it is. Oh, it's over. [laughs] The show's over, Tom. Hey, you invited us. I know. Yeah. I know. I know, man. No, no one said we weren't gonna, we weren't gonna be here till midnight.
• 50:25
  Exact- control is- Do, do you wanna quick Gnomefest blurb? Yes, please. You want me to just go off about Gnomefest? Oh. I'm gonna go back to Oregon, getting Bucky in here. Yeah, tell us about Gnomefest there, Spinner.
• 50:34
  Okay, I don't have a, a really great plan, actually. [laughs] Awesome. [laughs] We'll roll with it.
• 50:42
  Well, did you put some- So yeah, Friday night, I'm, like I said, we're gonna probably throw everybody in the moving truck. We're going to go into town.
• 50:49
  The city of Platteville and the guys in town have actually put a lot of, there's a lot of neat little single track sections off of the main paved trail. Mm-hmm.
• 50:56
  And, uh, so you can ride to a bar, and then you like, you hop on some single track, and then you ride like a mile, and then you're at another bar, and you do some more single track.
• 51:03
  And then it's, it's, uh, kind of just spread out throughout little parts in town. Nice. Saturday, Block House Roll. Um, you know, it's been a 20-year-old race. It's one of the first races in the Midwest.
• 51:14
  So those guys are gonna race, and we're gonna be hungover and we can heck date and do whatever. Uh, Gomez is gonna be sleeping right in the middle of the course, so I hope you don't wake up early.
• 51:23
  You can bunny- Yeah, that's the plan... you can bunny hop that. Bunny hop the Gomez. Uh, I'm gonna be- He's gonna be half-naked, ass up in the middle of the trail. I'm gonna be in a hammock, completely naked.
• 51:31
  [laughs] Bunny hop the naked Gomez in a hammock. [laughs] Wow. [laughs] I'll just go around. We have a banana hammock. Multiplier times three. [laughs] Well, yeah.
• 51:43
  And then, uh, Gnomefest happens in the middle, so just a poker ride. We got some, we got some different ideas involving, uh, sling shots and pointy tip darts this year. So- [laughs]... there's gonna be a, [laughs]
• 51:56
  quite a different game.
• 51:58
  Uh- Dude, I was talking to the folks out in Crested Butte today about their world champion fat bike race at the end of January, and they're freaking talking about running a air gun biathlon as part of the fun skees. Ooh.
• 52:12
  Yeah. That's a good reason to go out there. So we're- Like, like, not paintballs, but actual air gun? Air gun, yeah. So- Man, I'm pretty good with those. Yeah. So you'll put your eye out or something.
• 52:24
  That's what she said. That's what she said, yeah. So- You'll put somebody's eye out with your one eye. Sunspot. As long as, as, as long as you Snapchat it, it's okay. [laughs] Hey, Chris, I'm gonna Snapchat you.
• 52:36
  Hey, wait for this. [laughs] That is- [laughs] That's- That's, that could, can that be the next, uh, the next, uh, fatbike.com contest, is a Snapchat teabag my tattoo contest? Oh. Oh. [laughs] Yeah. Oh, man.
• 52:51
  We'll, as long as you're volunteering to judge that, 'cause I'm not looking at a bunch of chodes. [laughs] And then awarding a winner, like- Everybody call, Snapchat Gomez, 608-whatever your number is. I don't know.
• 53:03
  [laughs] Yeah. [laughs] Everybody who submits is a winner. Oh, Lordy. [laughs] Oh, this one. Look at this one. He has a tattoo on his scroty. All right, Spinner, so Gnomefest is- [laughs]... this coming, coming weekend?
• 53:17
  Is that when it is, or the weekend after? No, it's, it's the- Yeah... it's like the- Like, today's, today is- It's tomo- Today... it's actually today. When this, when this show airs- Will be today...
• 53:26
  it'll be, it'll be Gnomefest. I will be- Yeah... dressed in- You can help us. We got, uh, most of the giant burning bike done. Yeah. And we are gonna do fireworks this year.
• 53:35
  So feel free to bring any fireworks and any- Oh, I got fireworks, dude... explosives you want to light up. And, and we need like- Okay... flammable batting and a staple gun and gasoline. And, and Dave Lunz's tent.
• 53:46
  And a, and you got, and a gallon of livestock blood. Mix the gasoline with the livestock blood- We've got, uh-... and it makes a gel... this is, this year [laughs] It's built- Yeah...
• 53:56
  this year it's built out of untreated oak and has been painted in diesel fuel since, uh, God, when did they start that? Like, March. Wow. So it's, uh, the frame to go. We just got the wheels on.
• 54:06
  Oh, it's just gonna- And then, uh- Cook... we're actually gonna- Cook...
• 54:10
  the thing we're gonna try, we'll see if this works, you take Roman Candle, you tape them to your top tube, and then you put on a paintball mask, and then we're gonna have a derby, and you try to shoot that bike.
• 54:19
  [laughs] Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. [laughs] This sounds like way more- That's my kinda party.
• 54:25
  [laughs] This sounds like more fun than when, when Dave Lunz and I had the indoor firework display in his living room with Roman Candles.
• 54:31
  [laughs] [laughs] There was nothing flammable in there particularly, except Rob's shoe maybe, but- I had a couple of bricks of firecrackers, so I'll be sure to, uh, to do that. Right on. Bring. Sounds fun.
• 54:42
  [laughs] All right, guys. I, is that the... What do we have? What do we, where are we? My screen is actually- I don't know. I'm just gonna go blow off fireworks this weekend- My screen is actually black...
• 54:49
  just in solidarity. Yeah. For fuck sake. 'Cause we can say goodbye to Spinner with his, uh, Gnomefest report. We'll see you this weekend. Yeah, and that's all I got. All right, man. Yeah. Okay. Later, Spinner.
• 55:00
  Dirty, you gonna- Spinner... you gonna ride up? You gonna make it up here? I'm heading, I'm heading to Knoxville
• 55:06
  That's not where Grom Fest is But, um, I was just telling people stories Are you sure it's called Knoxville, Dirty? Are you sure? [laughs] Come to the portal. All right. Spinner, I'll see you in Japan.
• 55:20
  Uh, all right, fine. Talked me into it. [laughs] All right, see you in Japan. Spinner, Spinner on tour. All right. All right, Spinner. Everybody will wanna touch him. Look at the albino- Dirty... American.
• 55:32
  What do you got? Any, any last words before we, uh, finish up this travesty? No, uh, other than remind me when you're doing this again, 'cause I'll, I'll call back in. This is pretty fun.
• 55:43
  [laughs] Yeah, it's pretty much every Wednesday from 8:00 to 9:00 at 818-918-2453. No, Dirty, Dirty needs special handling. Um, I'm, I'm unemployed. I live on my bicycle. I don't know what day it is.
• 55:53
  [laughs] Don't, don't- Text me... might as well text you. I'll, I'm gonna text you- Oh, we can Snapchat you some shit... and then, oh, I'm gonna Snapchat some shit. I'm gonna chat the snap out of you.
• 56:01
  No, okay, okay, so Snapchatting, is that kinda like s- when you have a towel and you snap somebody in the ass? 'Cause that would be sweet. No, it's like you- No, no, no, no. You get to look at this for six seconds.
• 56:10
  I'll tell you guys at the- That's it. You don't- I'll tell you guys after the show. [laughs] Go, go ahead and show him the pictures. I'm not quite- Oh. I'm not quite as dumb as you think I am.
• 56:19
  [laughs] I really want to, I want to, [laughs] I want to, I wanna get Snapchats like that. That's what she said. [laughs] Oh, no. Again. That's what she Snapchatted. But, hey, I, I, I have an idea. I have an idea.
• 56:30
  Since- Ooh... since we're gonna be doing a podcast from Interbike, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe. And, uh, with some special, with some special guests. Right. And, uh, you know- From the El Rancho, uh, pool deck.
• 56:41
  Yeah, 6'7" and up.
• 56:42
  Maybe, uh, I mean, maybe I'm, maybe I'm letting the cat out of the bag, but maybe the audience, the listeners, can come up with, like, missions and tasks and things they want me to do while at Interbike. Oh. Well.
• 56:56
  With- within reason. On Snap- on Snapchat.
• 56:58
  [laughs] Just people, people you wanna, people you want me to interview, um, maybe a bet you want me to place, uh, you know, someone you guys want me to give a hug to, anything you want. There you go.
• 57:10
  Bring, bring in the ideas. Leave, leave them in the comments. Uh, you know, send, send us an email.
• 57:17
  Let us know what, what you wanna see from the ground, from the street, at Interbike, and we'll see what we can do for the podcast. Sort of like In- Interbike the Jackass edition. Yeah, we won't be sleeping- I-...
• 57:27
  for well over 72 hours at Interbike this year. [laughs] That's, that's what she said. That's... Yes. [laughs] Well, I'll, uh, I'll talk to you guys next week. All right. All right. All right. Travel safe, bro.
• 57:39
  Right on, man. So do we still have- I'll talk to you from North Carolina next week. North Cackalacky. North Cackalacky. Right on, man. Bye. Hasta, hasta lu- [laughs] Hasta la- La... and Dirty has left the room.
• 57:52
  So we still have Jolly on the line? Nope, Jolly's, uh... We're, we're, um, caller free. We're caller free, so we should probably talk about linkages. Yeah. I don't think our circle ended at here.
• 58:04
  Yeah, where, where were we? Well, first- We were-... before we do links, I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you that the Fatty Farm Field Report was sponsored by Uncle Dick's Bead Slip.
• 58:12
  Check out Uncle Dick at uncledicksbikeshop.com, and if you can, like, send him a message from his website, say, "Why'd you diss some guys this week?" He was gonna come in and play music, but then he said no.
• 58:23
  That's all right, though. No, he can be the man he wants to be, but guess what? We've got his amp held hostage here- [laughs]... in the studio. We got lost. I totally got lost.
• 58:34
  [laughs] There was, like, somewhere else in the world, and I'm like, "What?" That's 'cause those colors are so interesting. Yeah, I know. It's just we really don't have to do a radio show except to listen to those guys.
• 58:44
  Yeah, traffic copying. Pretty much. We strayed into the Fatty Farm Field Report. Yep. Mm-hmm. You know, we had that question last week about, you know, how would you upgrade your current fat bike?
• 58:54
  Did anyone change their answer from last week?
• 58:56
  I was actually wanting to change my answer to maybe trying a carbon fork, or a carbon frame this, and fork, this, uh, this winter, but, uh, [laughs] then I saw a picture today on the Faceplace of a Bale Guisse wrapped around a tree and basically broken in half.
• 59:18
  But if you're gonna... Okay, if you're running into a tree, though, is, is the carbon frame really your problem, or is the tree more the issue? [laughs] Or do you have some sort of, uh- I think I know what picture-...
• 59:28
  internal balance issue... you're speaking of. I know it And I was like, I'm like, "How, how, how did you place there?" I don't know.
• 59:33
  I, I pictured that he flipped over the bars and the bike, flipped in the air, did a one and a half gainer, turned sideways, and, kkk, hit the tree. Almost, almost killed it, almost landed it. [laughs] Almost landed it.
• 59:48
  Almost landed it, but then- And then no, that fucking tree in the way... the tree got in the way. Kkk. Yeah. Chinese carbon bike meet- The human drama of athletic competition. [laughs] No. Well, I don't know.
• 59:59
  Yeah, something like that. It's probably something. I don't know. These are ABC's Wide World of Sports. 'Cause I've seen, I've seen a video of a dude with a ball-peen hammer hitting a carbon frame- Oh, yeah...
• 1:00:10
  and it didn't break. Well, yeah, not anymore. They used to break all the ti- well- Yeah... they still break. Depending on placement. Well, the, okay, m- I, I'm not gonna get into a huge- Yeah... speech on this thing.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah. But the problem with carbon fiber is it doesn't fail gradually. Mm-hmm. It just catastrophically goes- Yeah... kablammo.
• 1:00:27
  So it'll hold you and hold on right up until the point when it says absolutely not anymore, and then it goes in a big way bad. Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:35
  Whereas, you know, steel bends and flexes and gives you a whole bunch of warning before it's ready to break. Mm-hmm. True. Yeah, so.
• 1:00:43
  Well, and this is what I thought is, like, man, the dude who bought that bike, that is not a warranty-able repair. No. You know? Neither, neither is it when Spinner goes off a log pile on a- Right...
• 1:00:53
  another steel bike and breaks the thing in- So he is out, I mean, so when you buy, when you lay down that 3,500 to $5,000 that should be going in your kid's college account thinking, "Oh, well, I'll only need one of these bikes."
• 1:01:09
  N- I don't think that's true. I think that you're gonna have to spend 3,500 bucks-... every however many years these things last Yeah, I won't have to, but other people will. [laughs] Something to think about. Right on.
• 1:01:22
  But probably your bike is guaranteed to fail. The more you know. The more you know. I- [laughs] Think about that. Your kids- Your- Don't put them in debt. Or maybe Bernie will get, uh, elected and college will be free.
• 1:01:33
  Yeah, that'd be something. I'm going back to college. Right on. I'm gonna be a lawyer so I can argue. [laughs] Pr- I, I, you know how- You guys are just yes men to me... right on, yeah. I wanna argue with someone.
• 1:01:43
  All right, definition of a lawyer, professional bully. That's pretty much what they learn to do. Oh, I'm so good at it. Right? That's what I'm saying.
• 1:01:52
  [laughs] But, you know, just in the verbal, uh- Yeah, it's more of a, it's more of an educated bully. Jane, you ignorant slut. [laughs] So, uh, our, so I... [laughs] I... [laughs] Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:08
  We're, we're still on this thing about last week's thing. Oh, good. Oh. I, I changed my answer so many times last week, I'm not even gonna- [laughs] I'm just sticking with my last one. Yeah. Second set of- Of-...
• 1:02:18
  wheels and 27 plus It's a whole new bike for just a set of wheels. It's a whole new bike for a free set- well, not a free set of wheels. Not for you guys. [laughs] Freedom.
• 1:02:30
  And, and actually, I got some, I got some rims to test, but it cost me a bunch of money to build them into wheels. Yeah, I know. So whatever. I, uh- We spend our own money on this stuff, folks.
• 1:02:38
  We don't, we're not all just gear whores that- We like bikes. [laughs] I bought some socks this week. Yeah, I b- I buy stuff 'cause I want to. I bought, I bought some really, really cool-looking socks. Okay.
• 1:02:48
  [laughs] They say- See, we're talking about buying gear... do they, do they say something clever? No, they don't say anything to- Socks aren't gear, socks are wear... I know, I like- Really? I like- Yeah, wear.
• 1:02:56
  That's wear, not gear. I wear- And that's our new, uh, apparel- Natalie, Natalie Men- Mendez... Mendez. I, uh- Natalia. Natalia. See, I said Natalie again. She's gonna shoot me. Oh.
• 1:03:05
  [laughs] You're gonna get a, you're gonna get a terse email. Yes. She got engaged, in fact. I wanna lay, uh, her and Beef were out in the, uh... Yeah, that's right, her, her, uh- [laughs] Her, uh, fiance's name is Mr.
• 1:03:20
  Hanson and/or Beef. So, uh- [laughs] Good on ya, Natalia. We're sorry, but the show hasn't been- [laughs] See, there's that lady again... recorded for Fat Butt Radio. [laughs] Press one- Y- I'm sorry...
• 1:03:34
  otherwise, hang up. [laughs] Okay, lady. So I asked Natalia if I could do a- Bye-bye, bye-bye lady. [laughs]... do a, uh, a review of the socks.
• 1:03:44
  And I wore some- [laughs] I wore them today, so I'm starting to work on that. I took some pictures. Oh, right on. Yeah.
• 1:03:49
  Yeah, in fact, you know, we should probably put this in the show notes, [laughs] pictures of my socks from today's ride. Yeah, make, make sure you share those with me. [laughs] 'Cause that's fascinating.
• 1:03:59
  [laughs] Hey, you know what is fascinating? Oh, yeah. Our buddy Scott Chape, so we're from, uh, Chapin, South Carolina, left us a voicemail over the past weekend, and he weighed in- [clears throat]...
• 1:04:08
  with how he would upgrade his fat bike. Oh, cool. We'll take a little listen to that right now. You're talking to Scott from Chapin, South Carolina.
• 1:04:17
  And if I had one, and you say one, major upgrade that I could do to my current fat bike, it would definitely, without a doubt, be carbon fiber wheels. Um, you're lighting the bike.
• 1:04:31
  Your, uh, rotational mass is, is what really makes the difference. And, uh, I think some, some carbon wheels with, uh,
• 1:04:40
  with no tubes, get them tubes out of there and get it tubeless, I think that would be the best, uh, major upgrade you could do. [clears throat] If you wanna add one more thing to that,
• 1:04:50
  we need to widen those handlebars and shorten that stem, bring that geometry in where we can really take advantage of it. Um, that's my answer, and I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you on the radio. Thank you.
• 1:05:06
  Hey, that was Scott in a pre-recorded voicemail. That means, you know, you guys can call in anytime. True. And leave a message- I think, you know- 818-918-2453...
• 1:05:17
  maybe we'll give a prize next week, drunkest voicemail someone leaves us. [laughs] But don't, like, don't- Dave Lunz is not- [laughs]... at all- Yeah, Dave Lunz-... eligible for this show... is not eligible.
• 1:05:28
  Anybody but Dave, though. We'll, you know, we got... What, what do we got? Oh, emergency alert. Emergency TV service. So Sven, you've got a report, uh, about something down in Arizona.
• 1:05:40
  Well, yeah, we kinda- Jolly called- Oh, Jolly called in... Jolly called in, so we don't really have to go- We don't really have that report... too much over every part.
• 1:05:45
  But, but- But, uh, he did have, uh, you know, a bunch of stuff that's going on down there.
• 1:05:49
  The barn burner got canceled 'cause it was muddy, and they're in the monsoon season is basically the gist of his report here, that two weeks ago they were in the, the dry season, and suddenly monsoon, and bam, things are kinda muddy and whatnot.
• 1:06:03
  That means flowers in the desert. Flowers in the desert. Hopefully that, uh, that Tucson event goes well down that way. We talked about Gnomefest and the Block House Roll. Yes.
• 1:06:12
  That's where Gomez will be doing two shows, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. In his hammock. In my hammock. And, uh, you can come, you can, uh, shake my paw, you can slap my ass, and, uh, I don't know what else.
• 1:06:27
  Maybe buy me a soda. We do have a few links this week. Some of these are a [laughs] little bit odd, but, uh, check out the links. I don't know if you guys had any favorites in there, but, uh,
• 1:06:38
  there's some interesting stuff. Well, one of the things I find interesting, and, and, and there's this one fat bike, Hannah Brink electric motor thing- Mm-hmm...
• 1:06:47
  which reminded me that Hannah Brink was one of the first actual kinda fat bike things. Right. So I went to see what they're up to. So I have a link in there to their latest, bestest- Yeah...
• 1:06:56
  $9,000 electric full suspension, you know, with those 20-inch- Giant tires, yeah... or whatever they are, but eight-inch wide tires. Kind of a, kinda like a golf cart tires.
• 1:07:07
  [laughs] Yeah, pretty much, or something like that. Yeah. [laughs] But, uh, you know, honestly, I had no idea they were still around, 'cause that was 25 years ago- Right...
• 1:07:14
  when they first came out with the thing you could ride on the sand. I know. It's more like a museum piece, I would think, than an active bike, but- Who knew?
• 1:07:20
  But apparently the company, it's called Fortune Hanabrak is the name of the website. [laughs] Wow. So apparently he made a bunch of money selling these things. Maybe.
• 1:07:28
  Our buddy Olaf has a new photo project Olaf has a photo project. That involves gnomes and fat bikes. Travis sent us... No, actually Travis' wife sent us this idea for tubeless fat bike tire pressure formulas. Oh, really?
• 1:07:42
  'Cause Stans has a formula for how much tire pressure you should be running. Mm, mm-hmm. This is now applied to fat bike tires. Wow. Yeah. Tell me something I didn't already know. Carbony.
• 1:07:54
  They're, they're just, uh, making sure that we... It's just a starting point for your fat bike pressure in your tubeless tires. Killer. Primity.
• 1:08:03
  Yeah, I like the, I'd like to get more data on plus bike links and, uh, and pressures. Oh, hey, that brings us right to the plus bike links. I am just sharp as a, sharp as a- Sharp as a marble... sharp thing.
• 1:08:17
  Sharp as a bowling ball. [laughs] And we have no plus bike links to talk about- [clears throat]... but there will be ones in the show notes.
• 1:08:25
  You kids really should have learned to read, because the show notes of this show, nearly as fascinating as the talkie talkie parts. Nearly. Or you just go, "And the plus bike links." Are. [laughs] And that's it.
• 1:08:42
  He's, he's pantomiming. He's, he's in a windstorm. [laughs] Silence. I'm pantomiming silence. Yeah. It's not a video program there, sir. I know.
• 1:08:52
  Thanks again to Surly for sponsoring the radio portion of today's broadcast. Check 'em out at surlybikes.com. Hey, be sure to stop by the Fat Bike gift shop on our Facebook page right next to the VIP lounge.
• 1:09:03
  Buy something for the kids. We have patches, buttons. Um, we're, w- we have things in the works. Things and stuff Like, like rad T-shirts and stuff.
• 1:09:15
  This is, uh, this is, this is- This is a call-out for next week's call-in question, which would be, do you ride with music, and if so, earbuds, Bluetooth gizmotron?
• 1:09:29
  And we'll probably ask what your favorite song is on your ride. You have to call in next week, Wednesday, from 8:00 to 9:00 Central Standard, 818-918-2453. And let's- That's 818-918-BIKE.
• 1:09:47
  There you have it. And we'll discuss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bye. Bye. Adios, amigos. That's what she said. You've been listening to Fat Bike Radio's weekly dose of fat.
• 1:10:03
  Find us on the web at fat-bike.com/radio. We'll see you next time.
• 1:10:11
  [upbeat music]