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Patriots Catch-22 6/17: 3 Up/Down from Mandatory Minicamp, Around the AFC East · Patriots Catch-22

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  Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan
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  Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex bar Blazarre and Lazarre. Hello, everybody nailed it.
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  Speaker 1: He joined as always buy an our bar Gaski. Here
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  Speaker 1: is Evan Lazar and Alex bars Is Keisehon Booty. He
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  Speaker 1: gonna be okay with that many cham For reference, he
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  Speaker 1: played sixty seven percent of the snaps and games using
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  Speaker 1: last year, seventy nine percent year before that, So you
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  Speaker 1: were talking about a significant, significant decrees.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the situation for him because he's a
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  Speaker 2: fourth year player that's in the final year of his
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  Speaker 2: rookie contract, that needs to make headway to get a
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  Speaker 2: second contract in the NFL, and now you're going to
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  Speaker 2: take that player's role, You're gonna cut it in half
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  Speaker 2: when he's trying to get paid. It just doesn't feel, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel fair to kaish On Booty. All right,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do three three down from this spring.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I thought about putting kish On Booty on
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  Speaker 2: this list, but I didn't. I didn't because really round
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I just felt like, you know what's wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Get on Mike about what am I there? You go
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  Speaker 2: how about that.
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  Speaker 1: Radio is not as easy as it looks. Apparently it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a it's not a skill of mine.
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  Speaker 1: You know, just done how many shows? How many shows
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  Speaker 1: have we done?
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  Speaker 2: We've done a lot. This one. I think we're getting
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I saw the number the other day
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  Speaker 2: and now I don't want to say something because I
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  Speaker 2: don't remember exactly. You can find that easily.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna find it.
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  Speaker 2: We just did two hours. I would say we did what.
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  Speaker 1: This is episode one ninety six.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we're almost a two. We're almost a two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: We're almost we should do something for two hundred.
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  Speaker 2: We're almost at two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, hang on, so today we're not twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: Catch two hundred, catch two hundred.
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  Speaker 3: That's twenty two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: So we have a week off in July, right, two
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  Speaker 1: weeks off. Well, we're going we're gonna do try to
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  Speaker 1: feel something in Yeah, we're not going to. So I
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  Speaker 1: think our training camp kickoff show is going to be
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  Speaker 1: our two hundredth episode.
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  Speaker 2: That's actually pretty good. We try to figure that the
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  Speaker 2: kickoff of the season.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, you know, well, so wait, so hang on,
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  Speaker 1: so today's one ninety six. Yeah, next week we're doing
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  Speaker 1: a show this one ninety seven. Yep, July first would
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  Speaker 1: be one ninety eight pre record something for the eighth
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  Speaker 1: would be one ninety nine. And then we're off on
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  Speaker 1: the fifteenth. Yeah, and then we're back on the twenty second,
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  Speaker 1: and camp starts on the twenty fifth, right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: two hundredth episode training camp review.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're we're in the real dead period of
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  Speaker 2: the off season, which means it's, uh, yours truly gets
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  Speaker 2: to go on his one vacation that he gets to
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  Speaker 2: go on. No, this is uh, I'm not getting married
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  Speaker 2: this time, but it is our one year anniversary. So
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  Speaker 2: happy anniversary to my lovely wife. One year with me.
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  Speaker 2: She put up with me for actually really it's been like.
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  Speaker 3: For the whole season too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been I don't know, she's probably five or
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  Speaker 2: six years since we started dating.
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  Speaker 1: You guys started, I mean, you guys were dating before
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic, very right. I feel like you should know this.
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  Speaker 2: I met her in the fall of twenty nineteen, and
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  Speaker 2: then the pandemic happened, you know, right February March of
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  Speaker 2: the following year, So it was like we had a
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  Speaker 2: very very short period of time where we were dating.
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  Speaker 1: Before, So this fall you'll have been dating for six years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you should know that. I feel like you should
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  Speaker 1: know two nineteen, a relationship expert, I feel you should.
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  Speaker 2: I know that it was twenty nineteen because it was
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  Speaker 2: Brady's last year with the Patriots, the pandemic happened, It
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  Speaker 2: was a whole it was a big kind of year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was a lot going on, and I
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  Speaker 2: met Jess, So it was a lot going on in
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  Speaker 2: my life at that period of time that you know
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  Speaker 2: was notable. So anyways, enough about me, but that that's
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  Speaker 2: a good job outlying this out laying the schedule there
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, because we are going to continue at
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  Speaker 2: this time for this week and next week will be
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  Speaker 2: two to four as well, and then I think the
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  Speaker 2: first we should be back at noon because there's the
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  Speaker 2: World Cup is slowing down a little bit at that point.
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  Speaker 2: But then we'll be off a couple of weeks. We'll
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  Speaker 2: have something for you guys, and we won't go dark
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  Speaker 2: for the full two weeks, but that that will be
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  Speaker 2: the show schedule. But we just spent Alex and it's
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  Speaker 2: a spine of glass Still and me and Alex Barth
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  Speaker 2: and Catch twenty two. But we just spent like, what
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  Speaker 2: a good seventy five percent of that show talking about soccer.
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  Speaker 2: Aceh yeah, yeah, yeah, so soccer. I definitely could talk
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  Speaker 2: about soccer probably for another two hours. But I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk some football. We're gonna talk some Mini camp,
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  Speaker 2: look back at Mini camp one last time, and look
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  Speaker 2: at some ups and downs. We usually do ups and
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  Speaker 2: downs Alex during the season after each game, so we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna make a mini camp version of three up, three down.
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  Speaker 2: And then we're also going to continue our around the
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  Speaker 2: AFC East, which we put on pause because of Mini
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  Speaker 2: Camp and OTA's And we're gonna talk a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about the Miami Dolphins, which I think is a really
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  Speaker 2: fun philosophical conversation we can have between the two of us.
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  Speaker 2: Because I am a Mike McDaniel truther. It certainly did
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  Speaker 2: not work out Mike McDaniel the head coach in Miami,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll get to that as well. And then your
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  Speaker 2: calls and emails, if you want to call in about
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  Speaker 2: soccer development in the United States, then by all means
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  Speaker 2: we'll we'll take those as well. Alex is enjoying his
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  Speaker 2: time in the World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: I am enjoying it. It has been cool. A shout
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  Speaker 1: out to the Tartan Army.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're new best friends too. Well.
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  Speaker 1: I was hanging with some of the guys from Norway
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  Speaker 1: last night. We had a lot of what we were
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  Speaker 1: actually kind of off what you guys were talking about,
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  Speaker 1: some of the youth sports issues and all that, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe not just an American thing. And they were at
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  Speaker 1: the game too, that that Holland guy's pretty impressive. We
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  Speaker 1: were talking about him, and yes, they were blown away
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  Speaker 1: by Jillette Stadium, all of these people. I was asked,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what's your impression of the stadium and they
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  Speaker 1: he said that one guy I was talking to was
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  Speaker 1: talking about how like he couldn't get over and I
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  Speaker 1: know this can be a touchy subject for some Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: Face lightse the scoreboard. How big that scoreboard is? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he was I can't well, he didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: was new, so I'd explained that to him, but he was,
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  Speaker 1: they're blown away by the scoreboard, They're blown away by
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  Speaker 1: Jillette Stadium. And yeah, we were just kind of talking sports,
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  Speaker 1: youth sports in our different countries, and told him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about the big dig that came up. That
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  Speaker 1: was cool.
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  Speaker 2: Why did the big dig come up?
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  Speaker 1: He was talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Because I finished, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I asked him what he thought of Boston and
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  Speaker 1: he was talking about he said, like an uber drivery.
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  Speaker 1: AD told him like in the last fifteen years, a
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  Speaker 1: lot has changed. So he was like, what was that.
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  Speaker 1: And we were at a place that happened to be
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  Speaker 1: right on the Greenway there, so it's like there used
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  Speaker 1: to be a big highway here. I explained the whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: and so that was kind of It's called getting to
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  Speaker 1: show off the city as a local. It's cool getting
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  Speaker 1: to show off the city and the region and all
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were out to dinner in the North End
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  Speaker 2: on Friday night, right before the US game, and there
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  Speaker 2: were you know, kilts everywhere, right, the Scottish people were
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  Speaker 2: all over the restaurant, and uh, you know. I turned
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  Speaker 2: to the people next to me and I was going
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  Speaker 2: to try to give them some some tips about coming
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  Speaker 2: to Gelat Stadium, saying that I work here. And so
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  Speaker 2: I said to the guy, oh, I work here, I
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  Speaker 2: work at the stadium, and uh, he thought the way
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  Speaker 2: I said it, it kind of sounded like I was
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  Speaker 2: like a stadium worker, you know. So he was like, oh, like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we'll see you, you know, tomorrow, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: no that I'm a I'm boring. I'm a you know,
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  Speaker 2: I work in the office that is at Gelat Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's been really cool around the
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  Speaker 2: city to see all of them. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: hear what they got to say, But yeah, what what's
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  Speaker 2: it called? I'm going to butcher the word when uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we have all these apartment buildings that are opening,
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  Speaker 2: these like nice apartment buildings that are opening in areas
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  Speaker 2: of the city that aren't considered necessarily super nice.
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  Speaker 1: You have gentrification.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what it is. Uh, And
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  Speaker 2: that's I think the other thing that's really changed in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of ways about the city recently. You know,
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  Speaker 2: even like places like the Seaport, right, like the Seaport
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  Speaker 2: used to not be this like hub of of real
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  Speaker 2: estate that it is now. But you know, places like
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  Speaker 2: I live in Everett and Medford and even like Charlestown
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  Speaker 2: or Chelsea now it's because Medford and Everett have already
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  Speaker 2: gone through it now there moving on to Malden and
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  Speaker 2: Chelsea and all these different places. So yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot has changed. But let's get back to football and
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  Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit leftovers here from mini camp.
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  Speaker 2: So I did my three up, three down?
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  Speaker 1: You have yours?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, So I'll let's just get right into it.
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  Speaker 2: So let's start with the ups. We usually start with
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  Speaker 2: the ups. So my number one up, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the I should say I did it. I hope you
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  Speaker 2: did the same way, like the whole spring, not just
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  Speaker 2: the day the camp, like all the OTAs we saw.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty much the same. But just to put that
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  Speaker 2: out there. So my number one up was Drake May.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you can't. I feel like Drake
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  Speaker 2: May is like I almost didn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it was I mean, I remember a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago we stopped putting Christian Baltimore. If
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do that with a born where I actually
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  Speaker 1: didn't have Drake May because he's just he was Drake May.
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  Speaker 1: He was as expected.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but I feel like in some ways, like this
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  Speaker 2: was kind of like the spring of Drake May because like,
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  Speaker 2: how how much better of a spring could you possibly
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  Speaker 2: have had? Uh? And I'm not talking about the practice
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  Speaker 2: performance exclusively. First of all, just on this he got
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  Speaker 2: a J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown, Like, so so that my first up, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: big dub my first up ties in this. My first
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  Speaker 1: up was a J. Brown. Yeah, just that he's here,
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  Speaker 1: he's involved, it looks like he's making stride. So this
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  Speaker 1: is kind of the day we use the different player,
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  Speaker 1: but he's kind of the same.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Drake May this spring looks cool, confident, comfortable
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  Speaker 2: in the offense. Year two in Josh McDaniel's system looks good,
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  Speaker 2: throwing the ball spring long in the beginning of June.
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  Speaker 2: On June first, he gets a new toy and AJ
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  Speaker 2: Brown to work with. I don't know who had a
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  Speaker 2: better spring in all of New England then Drake May.
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  Speaker 2: He looks like he is poised to have a MVP
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  Speaker 2: caliber season all over over again. And maybe in some ways,
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: like we might, it might not be the efficiency, it
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  Speaker 2: might not be the stats might not exactly line up
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  Speaker 2: to this, but I feel like in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ways he's gonna be a better player than he was
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  Speaker 2: last year, even if, like you know, maybe he throws
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  Speaker 2: more picks than he did, or his EPA isn't number
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  Speaker 2: one in the league or whatever. I think that just
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  Speaker 2: maturity wise, he's gonna be an even better player. But
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  Speaker 2: you had AJ Brown, I.
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  Speaker 1: Had AJ Brown kindes just getting him in the fold,
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  Speaker 1: they got him here, and how quickly it felt like
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  Speaker 1: he assimilated, Yeah, assimilated into it, and just the chemistry
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  Speaker 1: with him and Drake may remember that first practice we
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  Speaker 1: didn't see him do anything. Would come out a week
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  Speaker 1: later and he's like the guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So just just the Aj Brown of it all, Just honestly,
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  Speaker 1: just finally having a conclusion to that saga more than anything,
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: like I see the Celtics fan and I shouldn't say this,
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  Speaker 1: like it's different, like I'm a Celtics fan, but I
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: see people like primarily Celtics fan. Yes, I've seen people
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: who are like primarily Celtics fans kind of starting to
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: bemoan the yawna stuff and like how long are we
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  Speaker 1: going to do this and sick of all these rooms
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. It's like, oh yeah, I remember that feeling,
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  Speaker 1: so like almost just just getting that almost my number
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  Speaker 1: one up should be Elliot Wolf just getting that thing
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up and done and they got him here and
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  Speaker 1: that's that's my whatever you want to qualify that as
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  Speaker 1: is my first s up.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought there was two plays from the spring
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  Speaker 2: that were just extremely positive early returns Drake May throwing
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: the ball to A. J. Brown. One of them was
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: that back shoulder on Kendill Wildor, which I think was
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: day one of Mini camp where Drake May just threw
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  Speaker 2: it up on the back shoulder. AJ Brown converted the
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  Speaker 2: route exactly how Drake May saw it and you know,
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  Speaker 2: made the catch. The other one was obviously the one
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  Speaker 2: on the last day of Mini caamp in the back
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  Speaker 2: of the end zone the you know the wrong shoulder,
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  Speaker 2: looks over one shoulder, you know, flips his hips and
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  Speaker 2: catches the ball and taps his toes and bounce. Both
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  Speaker 2: of those plays I think combined like trust in chemistry,
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  Speaker 2: where like Drake May has to have the trust to
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  Speaker 2: throw it up and they also have to see it
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  Speaker 2: the same way that the ball is going to be
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: where it's going to be. To have that happened so
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: early on in that relationship on the field is I
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  Speaker 2: think a really positive sign. You know, sometimes with those
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  Speaker 2: receivers that And I'm not saying you have to do
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  Speaker 2: this all the time with aj Brown, but when you
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  Speaker 2: have to like throw a receiver open a lot, that
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  Speaker 2: can take time. That can take you know, reps and
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  Speaker 2: reps to understand how they see it and where they
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  Speaker 2: want the ball. Do you want it more up, do
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  Speaker 2: you want it more to the side, do you want
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  Speaker 2: it lower like wherever? And it seemed like those two
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: guys just naturally fit together like a like a puzzle,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And that was good to see. I stuck
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  Speaker 2: with the receiver from my number two okay up, But
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: I just I thought it was another really good spring
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  Speaker 2: for Tomorroo Douglas. And I don't know what it means,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know what that looks like long term
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  Speaker 2: and where his fit's going to be, but I just
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  Speaker 2: thought he was probably the guy that had the most receptions.
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  Speaker 2: If that's your thing, you know, this spring from Drake
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  Speaker 2: may a lot of it too. I thought, was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: underneath stuff, not necessarily the vertical stuff that we know
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  Speaker 2: he can do, which I think is the big question
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  Speaker 2: mark with him. Is he gonna be able to convert
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  Speaker 2: routes properly and sit in zones and be quarterback friendly
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  Speaker 2: and you know, do those little option routes underneath the
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  Speaker 2: defense and see it the right way and all that
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. That was feels like the thing that's
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  Speaker 2: holding to Mario Douglas back. And this spring, I thought
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  Speaker 2: he looked really sharp and was executing and beat the
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  Speaker 2: blitz a couple of times with Drake may By hating
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  Speaker 2: him quick underneath and those types of things. So again,
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  Speaker 2: long term, I'm skeptical to put too much stock into it.
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  Speaker 2: We do this every year with these types of receivers.
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  Speaker 2: But it is what we saw right like that, That's
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  Speaker 2: what happened in this practice, these practices, And so I
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  Speaker 2: had to Mario Douglas number two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you again. I just think, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, what more could you ask him to do
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  Speaker 1: in this setting? And we're just talking about standouts from
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  Speaker 1: the spring. It doesn't mean anything for the summer. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't project anything forward for the summer or for the season.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not sure how much more you could ask
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  Speaker 1: him to do. The spring he did a ton.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, who was your number two? Pop Douglas, Pop Douglas.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we're brought on the same page. There number three.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of combined a couple of guys into one
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  Speaker 2: group on defense, the rotational defenders that I think is
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  Speaker 2: a sneaky impace.
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  Speaker 1: We basically had the lists, well we.
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  Speaker 2: All we sawt we watched the same practice, so that
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  Speaker 2: makes sense. Corey Durden, kJ Britt, Mike Brown. Those are
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  Speaker 2: my three guys that I kind of jotted down. I
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  Speaker 2: think a combination of past the initial eye test of
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: playing a larger role. Didn't really expect them to play
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  Speaker 2: as large a role as they did in the spring,
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  Speaker 2: Like in the case of a guy like Mike Brown,
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  Speaker 2: who I didn't really have a whole lot of knowledge
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  Speaker 2: about or like really think much of. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: Corey Durden and t One as he told us, you
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  Speaker 2: know kJ Britt, I think looks like a guy that's
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: you're hoping is going to step into that Jack Gibbons
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: role as the third linebacker, play a lot on special teams.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: And then Mike Brown, I think as a real chance
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: to make a push this summer to be the third
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: safety and even give them a package of plays to
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: play him as a third safety, not just as a
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: depth guy that is gonna play if somebody gets hurt
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: so I think that they need that this defense needs
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: that layer of depth behind some of their frontline guys,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: and at least so far, those guys seem to pass
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: the initial eye test to me.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I specifically was gonna go with the defensive tackles,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: and it's not to gauge them in this setting in
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: terms of their performance because there are no pads on.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Leonard Taylor had a couple of pass breakups, which is
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: kind of as much as you can do here. Corey Durtin,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: just the way the coaching staff talked about him, I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be set up for a much bigger role.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Saw Joshua Farmer kind of get involved a little bit
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: more so just the defensive tackles as a whole, I
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: would say, I think you come away feeling pretty good
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: about where they're at.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty strong position group, and I think
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: this is the case in a lot of the defensive spots.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: But you have Milton Williams and Christian Barmore at the
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: top of the depth chart, and those guys are gonna
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: obviously garner a lot of praise in at ten, but
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I think that they have some sneaky good players behind
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: those guys in third and uh even Lenny t I
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: think can play Joshua Farmer. Hopefully it takes that next step,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: you know. So it's a good it's a good group.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: So those were our Those are all yours, right, those
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: are our ups? Yes, Okay, So Drake may Pop Douglas,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: you had the d tackles, AJ Brown, you had aj Brown. Yeah,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: that that seems like the group the other guys that
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I think had the the real standout springs. Now to
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: the other side, now to the downs. Uh, I just
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: think he has to be the number one down just
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: by default. And that's gay Baccus.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I mean I I my number one was just kind
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: of like I grouped together before. Yeah, the Edge position
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: as a whole, yeah, uh Harold Landry not being out
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: there also significant, and it kind of got covered over
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: by the actus stuff, and I understand why. That's just
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: as big of a deal to me. I'm kind of
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: nervous about where the Edge group is right now.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: So gay back is you know, just in some not
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: even at the facility. It sounded like for the Spring portion,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: especially Mini Camp. Mike Reese had a lot of reporting
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: on this over the weekend. A couple of the things
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: that stood out to me about Reese's report, one was
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: that he had never signed a participation agreement even to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: play without a contract or a practice I should say
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: without a contract, which is pretty standard boiler plate for
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: if you're healthy, is to sign that participation agreement. Just
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: for comparison, Caleb Lomo signed one for a while last summer,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Trevon Henderson played on the or I keep saying, played
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: practiced on the participation agreement until right before training camp.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: He did a whole spring on the just on a waiver.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Essentially that basically the participation agreement says, in not so
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: many terms, like, we're going to give you this this contract.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: This is the rough outline of what the contract is
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: going to look like. And if you get hurt on
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the field in practice in the spring, excuse me.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Well still all right there.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: We have no water in this place, and it's a problem.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I did see some beers out in the fridge of
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the water. Oh yeah, that's.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: A good idea. We're still going to honor the rough
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: outline of the contract. Yeah, so that that's the participation agreement.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Acus didn't even sign one of those. Reese then also
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: reported the other part that stood out to me. Obviously,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: the knee procedure is what the procedure was. And I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: saw Accus on his social media working out with a
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: sleeve on his left leg. It looked like so maybe
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: it was a left knee. But then Reese also said
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that some teams are saying they had they flagged his shoulder,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: some are saying they flagged his knee, some are saying
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: they flagged his hamstring. One team, I think, said have
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: flagged his foot like he had like a stress fracture
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: potentially in his foot. So all in, you know, said
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and done it Just there's a lot of things that
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: right now of an uncertainty. I like to use that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: word because I don't want to be, you know, go
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: too overboard with it. A lot of uncertainty around Gabe
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: AGAs and I agree with Landry as well. You know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: it's a spot that Mike Rabel tried to pour some
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: water on at the end of the spring and say, no,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: they feel pretty good about this this spot. But I
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: wonder if that a little bit of that is. I know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: this is a big story, so I'm gonna try.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: To maybe I did find it interesting that he was
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: asked essentially the same question about the tight ends and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: said they do plan on adding or they are probably
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: gonna look at it. You did not say they're gonna
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: plan on it, but you're read between the lines. Where
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: are you at with Braiden Swinson? If they don't add
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Braiden Swinton becomes the fourth guy, one of the biggest
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: spotlight players in training camp or I guess if you
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: really think like Xavier Holmes or you know, Q Hutches
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: or Mary Gaynor can be that guy. But it seems
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: like Swinton realistically would be the next guy. Where are
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you at with Swinson?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: So I really liked the pick when they made it
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: because I thought it was the right pick at the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: right time in terms of this is a guy that
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: media kind of had as like a top one hundred.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: He was seventy on Thesus the Drive and.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: He felt and a lot of this stuff that I
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: heard about it at the time of why he felt
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: was just about like maturity.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Can coachability was with the athletic it put out.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like maturity and just like was he you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: a pro and all that kind of stuff, And it
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: kind of felt like last year they took that time
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to work on that side of things, to mature a
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: little bit, to follow you know, Arab landries of the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: world and guys like that, and show see how you're
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: supposed to be a pro. This is a summer where
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: he's got to start to do it on the field.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: You kind of give him that red shirt year to
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: work on himself and work on his professionalism. Now, starting
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: this year, I need to see him start to make
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: strides football wise, you know, on the football field. You know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think we've seen enough right now. Last year
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: camp didn't really pop, you know, didn't really pop all
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: last summer. But was that because he just wasn't ready.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: You know, he wasn't He wasn't there yet as a pro.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Now it's on him now, he's got to do a
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: little bit more. I like the skill set. I liked
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: it in college. I thought he had some pass rush moves.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I thought he had a nice variety to his pass rush,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: and he has some speed off the edge. You know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: plays a position the way that they want it played,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: especially as a stand up guy. I just think that
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: he's got to put it all together.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I thought, I mean a lot of
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the coaches were talking about how he's changed his approach
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: mentally and just based on what was reported after he
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: was drafted. You look at that and that's encouraging. Now
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: we'll see if it translates on the field. But you
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: kind of heard what you wanted to hear about him
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: this spring.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, because I think with him it's between
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the years, Like it's not about physical ability, It's it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: more about you know, being there and pushing yourself and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. All Right, So we both
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: had like Akis edge rushers rights as number one on
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: our list, okay, number two, And this one again is
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: not the sound of any alarm bells. And I will
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: say I've kind of come to the theory that Romeo
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Dobbs might be more of a game player they practice player.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I just wasn't dazzled by him in the spring.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Now again, like a guy like that, that's you know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a bit a power slot, a big slot, whatever you
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: want to call it. He's you know, gonna win with
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: physicality and you know, effort and sort of that that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: sort of tenacity that he kind of has. You know, Yeah,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: maybe that comes out more in a game setting than
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: it doesn't a practice setting. But I thought down the field,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: him and Drake May are a little spotty, like it
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: didn't really connect on a lot going down the field,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and underneath it was there. But you know how many
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you know, six five six yard passes? You know, am
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I gonna be wowed by?
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I don't think he's a wow player.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's a steady move the chains, Like I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: just and there's nothing wrong with that. They have a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: wow player now they have aj Brown. So I just
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think that's his role. I we talked about this as
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a setting where a guy like Tomorrow Douglas always gonna pop.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's a setting that's a little duller for
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a guy like like a Romeo.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: But do you agree with the general premise that he
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: didn't he didn't flash.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I would put him on the downs, but he didn't flash.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: That is certainly fair.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there's some some things, you know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: with the role he's going to play. And I'm not
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: saying that this isn't going to come to fruition, but
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: just early returns with the role that he's going to play,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of that is going to be chemistry with
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Drake May and seeing it the same and seeing coverage
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: the same and rotation the same and all that good stuff,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and that's going to take time, so I'll give him
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that time. I just wish that there was a little
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: bit more explosiveness, a few more chunk plays in there
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: than what we saw in the spring. So again, I'm
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: not like saying it's a bust of a signing or
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: anything like that, but they paid the guy a lot
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: of money, and I thought it was just a little
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: bit muted in terms of what he showed in the spring.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Who's number two?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Number two for me is Dimitri's crown Over or I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: guess I could throw a couple of rookies in here,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Demetri's crown over, Eli Rearden, Ondobies or Yeah, those just
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: those guys just feel like they played positions where there
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: should be snaps to be won, and we didn't see
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of any of them. Yeah, reared in a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: little more after Hill got hurt, but it still didn't
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: feel like he was out there a ton as much
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: as I expected. Crown Over it looks like is still
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: behind Marcus Bryant and maybe even James Hudson too. That
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: looked close, And then we I don't know about you.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing gobiizor defensively like at all.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: No, I actually remember seeing Khalail Jacobs more than I
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: remember seeing Yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I mean we saw good amount kJ Britt and he'd
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a good summer like if we were doing five ups
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: or spring. If we were doing five ups, I'd probably
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: throw kJ braid on there. Yeah, he got dinged up
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit, so not as much a minichamp, couldn't
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: build on it. But saw a good amount of Chad Muma,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: saw Chad Muma doing some green dots stuff. So some
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of those guys just I thought I would see more,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: not down because they didn't perform well. But again, so
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: much of the springs about usage seems like some of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: these rookies maybe have more of an uphill battle than
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: we expected to the spots that they project to ideally
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: on the depth chart.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: So I agree with you, and you know, with the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Rareden thing, and I feel like I am probably coming
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: across as really negative on Eli Raridan. But it's more
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: just the totality of this is a guy that you
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: drafted at the end of the third round at a
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: position that's a slower developing position as it is and
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: when I saw him out there, I think he looks
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: like he fills out this too well. He's got a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: great frame on him. You can see some of that
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: straight line speed. But I do think that he has
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit of ways to go in terms of
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you know, mass on the frame to be a good blocker,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: some of the instinctual stuff as a receiver, just you know.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like his route sometimes he's a little bit
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: slower because he's trying to think through things and stuff
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: like that and not running at full speed. We talked
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: about this a little bit on pu Alex in the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: last hour. YEA, the tight end position I think is
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: screaming for. And look, it was supposed to be Julian Hill,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: and it's an unlucky break that he gets injured in
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the spring, but I think that it's screaming for a
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: veteran addition to that room, not just to be camp body,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: but somebody that can actually come in and if Eli
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Rearden isn't ready out of the shoot to be playing
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: forty five to fifty percent of the snaps like Austin
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Hooper was last year. You can turn to Will Disley,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: you can turn to John us Smith. You can turn
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to Farroh Brown even one of those types of guys,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: because I think it's a lot of pressure and just
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: sort of a lot of at stake to put that
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: all on Rriden and the other pivot would be, I guess,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to play even more Regie Gillium, which I love me
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: some Regie Gilliam, don't get me wrong, but I don't
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: think you want to be backed into a corner where
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: now your only option of going heavy is to put
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: twenty one, you know, to put Gilliam with Henry and Henry.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: You know, let's call it what it is. Henry is
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: not an elite blocker in line by any means either.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: So I think that somebody that can sort of lessen
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the burden on a guy like both Henry and Raridon,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: but especially Rarden, to come right in and contribute right away,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I think is important. That doesn't mean that Rariden can't
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: pass him eventually, like I think Arden could have had
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: a chance to pass Julian Hill in some packages in
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: some you know, types of situations eventually as a rookie too.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But it seems like a lot to ask Raredon to
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: go out there, like let's say Week one against Seattle
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: and just be ready to play a regular role. Which
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: one of the free agent tight ends that I know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: there's been a bunch that have been kicked around, any
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: one in particular, do you gravitate towards The.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Two that I've kind of been the most interested in
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: are Pharaoh Brown and Mercedes Lewis.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't think of Marcedes Lewis because I figured he
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: was retired at this point.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: As far as I can tell, he's.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that there's I had read that there
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: had been some injuries with Will Disley, Like I think
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Will Disley is probably the youngest and maybe the most upsidymer.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: John Fitzpatrick from the Packers.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And then there's always you know, the question
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: of the Bears have like six tight ends, the Rams
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: have six tight You have a bunch of tight ends.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: They just drafted another one both those teams, did I
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: believe drafted tight ends? You know? Do you make what call?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: You do a call for one of those in the trade?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: You know, does Cole Comett interest you? Does one of
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the you know, Higbee or one of those Rams tight
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: ends interest to you? Not for a lot? You know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you're not giving up another first round pick. But if
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: you could get Cole Comet for like a third or
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: fourth round pick, would you do it?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Fourth round pick? Yeah? Probably? The rams tight ends Higbee
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: interest me too. But if it's just a guy that's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: going to come in and block, if you feel good
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: about the young guys, I don't really need to give
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: up that much. Like I've said this, I would almost
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: let ark it in du pre battle for that third spot.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: If Arden comes along a little more, let arcing into
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: pre battle. And some of these guys probably aren't going
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to sign until me in August. I would kind of
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: see what you have and then maybe sign somebody, like
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: a few weeks in a training camp if you're not
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: seeing what you want to see.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, So we have edge rushers slash acush.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: You had the young guys as number two reared in
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: crown Over those guys will be had wrote me. Adopts
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: number three down here for me and this one pains
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: me a little bit. Did the island with land Larison?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's taking on a little bit of water.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I thought land Larrison had a good spring.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I thought he was participating. I didn't think that. I
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: didn't notice him A ton does that make sense. Like
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I thought that he was in the mix, and I
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: thought that he was involved, but especially in a time
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: of year where it's a passing camp. It's a passing
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: time of year, and this is a guy that I
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: was hoping that was gonna be Rex burkheadish, right, like
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I receiving back, you know, sub package receiving back. I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: wish that I just had saw a little bit more
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: juice out of him in the passing game, if that,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: If that makes sense, Just this should have been a
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: setting kind of like what we saw just some flashes
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: from like Trevon Henderson, yea, Like this should have been
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: a setting where a guy like land Larrison was making
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: catches out of the backfield at a decent clip and
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I just didn't notice him as much as I wanted to.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: But he was involved. I just don't know if it
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: was flashy or I popping.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think being involved is more about this is
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: more with this time of years about But I he
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a kind of player that that pops
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in this. He's power player, He's not a speed player.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Let's see when the pads come on, do you think so?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't think he's like a quickness, you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: not like I don't think he's quick in the sense
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: of of like James White quick, but you know, just
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: like a smooth change of direction. Guy like I I
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: when I watch him, I don't think of like, oh,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: this guy's gonna finish runs and stuff like that. Is
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: that how you you look at him?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? A little bit interesting?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I mean, look, he's not like Garrett Blunt,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: but again I compare him to Brain and Bolden, Like
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I think his play, I think you think he reminds
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: me of Bolden.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I maybe I gotta look at him differently then,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: because I look at him as somebody that I think
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: is gonna make the most headway in the NFL in
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the past.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Not I think Brandon Bolden was a good pass catcher,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that's true, but he's not I I think. I don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: think he's a jitterbug. No, he's he's agile, but I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: think he he runs hard and I think that's his
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: best trait.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Number three down?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Who do you got Bryce Behinger. I not that he
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: did anything wrong, but what do you mean they they
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: brought Mitch McCarthy in for rookie Mini camp. They brought
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Devin what was his last name, Devin Bail in for
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: regular mini camp for a tryout, and now neither of
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: those guys stuck. But it's very clear they want competition
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: for him, so and I I would think by training camp,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: just given what we've seen, there is gonna be somebody
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: in here competing. Maybe they pivot to a veteran, you know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: speaking of all the love for Scotland we're doing, Jamie
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Gillian Scottish? Right, is he don't think? Isn't he the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Scottish Hammer? Isn't that his nickname? Oh that sounds right, Yeah,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: he's Scottish. What a better way to kind of bridge
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: this this connection we have with the with the Scotts.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, then Jamie Gillen, who's a free agent,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: have him come in compete for the punting job. Matt
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Hacks also available. It just feels like he's going to
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: have to fight for his job in camp. And I
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: know I'm saying that is there's nobody on the roster
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: right now. It's kind of just reading the tea leaves.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to have to fight for his
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: job in a contract year.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Do you think that that's valid, Like, do you think
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: that his job should be tenuous based off of last season.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I think he got a little more crap for last
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: season than he should have. I think people look at
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the way he punted in the AFC Championship game. There
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: were some extenuating circumstances there. I do think there's other
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: games where maybe people miss that he didn't punt as
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: good as he did. But the fact he's in a
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: contract year, you know, you kind of have to you
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: don't really You rarely see punters and kickers go to frequency, right,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: A lot of these guys get extensions. Yeah, and going
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: into the last year. It's just kind of how the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: positions manage. So you have to decide right now if
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you want to you know, have to decide it. I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: guess you'd like to decide this summer if you want
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to pay him or on Ryan Allen remember got an
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: extension in in camp, and uh, they've had a couple
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: of guys Jake Bailey that's right, too, got an extension
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: in camp. So this is kind of how you handle
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the position, and you want to be really sure before
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you pay him. And maybe that's bringing in competition and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: making sure that he can beat out what else is
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember in February at the Combine, I was
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit surprised that there wasn't a little bit
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: more urgency to maybe draft a punter in the late rounds.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: And I kind of think, if you draft a punter,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: your your definatively moving on.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, or I guess maybe just you know, it felt
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: like the messaging out at the Combine back in February was, well,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: we're kind of set at the specialist positions and you know, kicker, punter,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: long snapper, And they drafted two of those guys last
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: year in Borgalis and Ashley. But there wasn't this whole
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: because we're coming off the playoffs and coming off a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: stretch where Baringer didn't really punt very well, especially in
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game, and I guess I expected there
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: to be more urgency. Now they've showed a little bit,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I suppose the urgency in the spring to bring in
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: some tryout.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised they didn't bring in one of the more
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: priority udf right.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I think that maybe that's a better way of putting
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: it in the draftings.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: So maybe that's why. Maybe because those guys knew they
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: could go somewhere and have the job. Yeah, And I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: don't think that's I think there's still I say this,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I think they're still very open to Baringer being the punter. Yeah,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: but I think they're going to make them win the job.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I like I said, I remember at
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: the combine that was sort of the scuttle butt around
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the specialists, and there was some and look, this is
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: hardcore of people like us that care about this kind
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: of stuff, but there were some questioning about whether or
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: not they were going to be interested in punters, and
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the messaging was pretty clearly no. And I was surprised
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: at the time that they weren't going to be more
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: interested than those guys. So we'll see, we'll see you
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: with Baringer. But I thought they AFC champion. I know
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the Broncos punter punted pretty like better, right, So if
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: you're going to compare apples to apples and the AFC
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Championship game, it wasn't all the conditions, because the Broncos
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: punter did better than Bearinger did in those conditions, but
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the conditions in the second half of that game, especially
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: were non like there's nothing you could do. You know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it was it was, and it wasn't just that the
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: it was a blizzard. It was a blizzard that kind
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: of came out of nowhere, right like they weren't really
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: expecting that much snow and then all of a sudden,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: there was like six inches of snow on the field,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: just in within twenty thirty minutes as the second half began.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: So that that was the big difference. If you know
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: that you're expecting snow, at least you could kind of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: mentally prepare for it a little bit. This was like
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: a tidal wave of snow out of nowhere. But yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: it's interesting. And then obviously in the Super Bowl, the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Seahawks punter just had had a day. He had a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: fantastic game, and you know that overshadowed it as well.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: All Right, So that's a three up, three down from
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the spring. I think that we kind of pretty much
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: had the similar lists, maybe a little bit different on
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the downs, but generally speaking, I feel like that's sort
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: of where we're at with a lot of these guys
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and with the team. Uh So, let's get into around
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the AFC East and then we'll open it up for
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the calls and emails. Uh eight five five pass five
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: hundred is the phone number. Uh, Patriots podcast at Patriots
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: dot com is the email address. I always forget the
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: email address. I don't know why. It's just one of
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: those days.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: It's all right, you're doing double duty today.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Doing double duty. And I got to be honest with
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you guys. H it's the dead dol drums of the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: offseason right now. And uh, and my brain is like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you know, like in Star Wars where it goes boom,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: makes that noise, where that's where we're at. Yeah, that's
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: where we're at. Like it's it's we're losing it a
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: little bit, we're losing some steam. But I want to
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: talk about the Dolphins because I feel like they are
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: one of the weirder teams right now in the NFL.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I would say, but just to kind of get into it,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: because I'm gonna I'm gonna lay down my sword and
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: admit defeat on Mike McDaniel for you. Good job, you
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: win this one, you win this round. I still I
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: feel like Ben Johnson is having a pretty good glow
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: up in Chicago.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm not Ben Johnson's fine. So on top of
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: just yeah, I like Ben Jonson a lot more than
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I liked Mike McDaniel.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, I really don't.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not totally out on all of those kind of
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: coaches being head coaches. I think there's a level to it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I left the door open for Ben Johnson. I think
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: he's a good football mine. I think he relates to
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the player as well. All that Mike McDaniel was a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: weirdo who was propped up by a bunch of talent
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Mike McDaniel on a scale of like Kyle Shanahan,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, Ben Johnson, Well, this says Mike McDaniel, the.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Scale would go from Sean McVay, well, he's the goat
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: right to Brandon Staley. Oh god, and Daniel is not
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: far off from Brandon's not far off. He's better, not
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: by a lot.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: He was better. He was better at coaching and the
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: things that you Brandon Staley was a disaster in terms
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: of like game management.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Brendan Staley actively took his team out of playoff game. Okay,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: McDaniel's much closer to that side than he is to McVeigh. Yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: McVay is the one guy that figured it out. Shanahan's
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: admittedly more towards that side. Lafleur is probably somewhere in
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the middle. I go back and forth on him me too,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: although I think last year probably should have been the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: end for him. Who else is in that? Ben Johnson?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's like too new. I need another year before
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I decide. Yeah, Ben Johnson's not I'm optimistic about Ben Johnson,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: but any more data.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is a type pant Sky, but he comes
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: from a different tree, in a different system. He's not
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: a Shanahan guy.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Where out Who else is in that?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I mean offensively? At this point, I think that that
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: pretty much is the list.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: You know, there's obviously coordinators like Joe Well. I guess
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Joe Brady's a head coach.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: But my whole argument with a lot of these guys
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: has always been you can be a really good coordinator
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: without being a good head. I still think Mike McDaniel
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: is like a good offensive mind. I just don't want
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to running my football team. Yeah, so, I think, although
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know how him and Harbor are going to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: work together, that's a weird it is.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I think Joe Brady is probably now.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: The new the new the other side.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see how he is as a head coach.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. I think those are a lot
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: of them, you know, some of them are now are
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: on defense, honestly, like Jesse Minter and uh, why am
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I bringing on the Seahawks Mike McDonald.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I don't hate those guys. Yeah, Donald's obviously great.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like those guys are tight pants defensive minds, you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: like they're they're schemers on the defensive side of the ball. Oh,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: which is maybe a little bit different because I think
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: thoose defensive guys tend to have a little bit more
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: game sense. They're not quite as in their their play
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: sheets as the offensive guys are. They're not as many
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: calls to make defensively, to be honest with you, you know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: that's a part of it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I think people wondered for a little bit, how creative
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: can you get defensively? And now we're getting it. Yeah,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I do. Like you're getting like the the like tight
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: pant that the image that you know that there was
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the old meme where it's like the guy in like
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the polo and the tight pants with the visor and
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the clean cut. That's the offensive coordinator. And the guy
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: in the sweatpants with the scraggly hair and the beard
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: is the defensive coordinator. That's kind of flipped.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have we have some put together defensive gurus.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, but then on offense you have like Brian
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: day Ball and Jim Bob Cooter's back and.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Is Shane Stiken. I think I'd probably count Shane as
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: the tight pants guy.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I would. So the McDaniel era goes up in flames,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: flames out. They never want to play.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Here, and here's the one thing I wanted to put
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: out there. It's a little trivia question for you, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I kind of just gave it away because we're talking
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: about the Dolphins.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, I missed what you said for a second, but
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: go ahead, a.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Little trivia for people out there. The team with the
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: long strout of winning a.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Playoff game Dolphins two thousand.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the Miami Dolphins have not won a playoff
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: game since the two thousand wild Card round against.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: The Colton They've been in a couple they've been in
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of right, other teams have longer played was mcdamn,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Mariquan get to play in yes side tangent because it's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: the summer. We've probably we've been on the air enough
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: together that we've probably done this take. But I'll bring
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: it up again when you go through the what ifs
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of the Patriots era, right like the teams that they killed,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: obviously the big ones, the Manning Colts, the Greatest Show
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: on Turf, the Legion of Boom. Like these teams they
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: stopped from being a dynasty, or even like the lt
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Antonio Gates, Philip Rivers, Chargers, the teams that probably would
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: be viewed in a brighter light had they not run
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: into the Patriots over and over and over. The one
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: team that always gets left out of that conversation, I
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: think is the early two thousands Dolphins. You had dominant,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: multi Hall of Famers defense, Ricky and then you had
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Ricky Williams and the good offensive line, some decent receivers
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: on offense. Those teams were good. Those were good football teams.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: They just played in the same division as Tom Brady
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots. And to take it a step further
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: with the what if, what if when they realign the
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: league to thirty two teams, in two thousand and one
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: if you think about it geographically, and I understand why
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they didn't because there was more with the historical rivalries
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and all of that. Which fine, if the Colts stay
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: in the AFC East and the Dolphins go to the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: AFC South. So now you have that Dolphins team with
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: all that talent. Yeah, there's some good Titans teams in there,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the Steve McNair Titans, but there's not a lot of
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: good Jaguars teams in there. The Texans are Brad brand
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: New and then you have Brady and Manning in the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: same division. Yeah, like that is to me one of
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: my favorite what ifs in the NFL. And then again,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: just I think those Dolphins teams back then are under appreaching.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: You had Jason Taylor, you had Junior seou, Patzertan, Sean Marion,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Zach Thomas, Thomas was they had another really good pass rusher.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: On those Most of those teams were coached by Wanstead, right,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Dave Wanstead was the coach. I feel like, yeah, Nick
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Saban obviously for like mid two thousand or like.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: So when Sabin got there, it kind of fell apart
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: and they tried to bring in Culpepper. This is like
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the Jay Fiedler. Yeah, I was gonna say that was
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: not that Jay Fiedler was great, but.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: That was the one thing I was going to get
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: to with those Dolphins teams. To just put a little
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: hole in your argument, is that I believe Jay Fieedler
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: was probably the best quarterback that they had.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: In that Yeah, but this was back before you really
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: needed that.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I guess, like Trent dilferb was winning super right.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: And then let's see who they have on offense. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: remember they had some good receivers. This is the two
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: thousand and one Aroonde Gadson. Remember Chris Chambers. Ye, good player,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Kurt And then who was who was the tight end
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: they had? They had like hybrid title receivers.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Kidding. I think Dan Camp.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: No, Dan Camp, I think was there later Randy McMichael. Okay,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you remember Randy mc michael, of course, And yeah, they had
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Ricky Williams doing his thing. Yeah, and then I'm looking here,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: who is the Sammy Knight at safety? Sammy Knight and
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Brock mary And were both really good. Sam Madison and
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Patrick Sertan were the corners. Terrell Buckley was there at
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the end of this former Patriot. I'm trying to remember
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: who the other pass rusher was. They had somebody opposite
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Taylor who was good. I don't remember, and then you
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: had Thomas and say I was so I don't even
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: remember this guy. Ata walle Onngley had fifteen sacks in
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three, but I don't think.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: That same was thinking of same sounds familiar.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I'm almost there, all right, So maybe there wasn't. Maybe
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I'm imagining the second pass rusher. But Trace Armstrong in
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: two thousand had sixteen and a half sacks.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Some good players on those teams.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, hey, we're not talking about the Dolphins twenty five
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: years ago, but those teams are fun.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I love those The Dolphins have not won a playoff
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: game since two thousand. Yeah, McDaniel got them to the playoffs.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: His first two years they lost both wildcard rounds zho
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: and two, and then as last two years they were
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: fifteen and nineteen, you know below five hundred didn't make
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, and back to back seasons and he's out.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a couple of different things we
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: can talk about with the McDaniel, or one of them
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: is obviously what we just talked about with the type
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: pants guys and stuff like that, But I think projecting
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: forward the more important part here. They sort of had
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: an identity, even though.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a very strong idea.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't super successful in terms of, you know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: big picture winning playoff games, but they had their identity
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: of we are fast, and we got a ton of speed,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and we have a system with it that really amplifies
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that speed, and we use a lot of motion and
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: window dressing pre snap and like they had a real
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: system and against the Patriots it was pretty successful.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Lot.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots finally beat Tua. Tua was seven
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: and one against the Patriots in his career with Miami,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and so they were a little bit of a thorn
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: in the Pageots side in the twenty twenties. They probably
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: a better team frankly for a couple of those years
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: than the Patriots were. And now I'm just curious, big
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: picture wise with Miami, like what is their identity going
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: to be? And it kind of feels like they are
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: going from like the soft like player friendly, go along
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: with the flow kind of coach, goofy kind of coach
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to Jeff Haffley, who's kind of hard. Oh, you know,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: and that they're they're doing that thing where they're flip flopping.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: But again, it wasn't a super successful model, Alex, but
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: they had they had a model like they did Hill
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Wattle eight chan offensive scheme, uh you know, window dressing.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: That was the Miami Dolphins. And and honestly, you know,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I was at a lot of those games. Was lucky
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: enough to go to a lot of those games down
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: in Miami when it was hot and they were rolling offensively,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: it was tough, like it was a tough place to
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: go down and win a football game. As we know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: where are the Dolphins big picture going? I think is
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: a nice interesting question as a division opponent because right now,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I don't they have no identity, We have no idea
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: what direction they're kind of going in.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I would say
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: if they didn't pay uh, Malik Willis, right, I would say,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: they're trying to go to the bottom to get back
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to the top. Yeah, but they paid Malik Willison. They
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: seem to believe in him. How pissed is Malik Willis
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: that they got rid of all their wide receivers? Right?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Was he aware of that, so right, kind of seems
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like they want to win and hold some level of water.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I like Malik Willis. He's not
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the quarterback of the future to me. No, So there's
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: nothing around him, not on offense, not on defense. It's
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: a teardown of a roster. But they just committed all
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: this like and look, I mean the Falcons committed all
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: that my n Kirk Cousins had moved on. So maybe
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: he's at least a starter for this year, right, Maybe
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: he's the starter for the year and they still feel
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: like they're going to get a top pick and they
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: can dip into this quarterback class. Maybe they put in
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: a bid on Brendan Sooresby, right, But it's a they
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: got a long way to go.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: So no McDaniel, no to no Tyreek Hill, no Jalen
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Waddle anymore. In Miami that was their core four or
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: five years there. They still have Devin h Chan And
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I think the one thing about Malik Willis is that
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: he looked good when managed in Green Bay when they
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: put him in an offense, you know, obviously with a
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: lot of quarterback run element and things like that, a
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: play action heavy that looked good. Now, Bobby slowk is
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: the higher out offensive coordinator. He kind of flamed out
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: with the Texans and had CJ Stride out of the
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: gate playing really well and didn't really build on that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Bobby Slowick, who's kind of Shanahan
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Tree adjacent, I don't know if he's the guy that's
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: gonna build some option offense that's gonna unlock Malik Willis.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe he is. I really like Hafley as a defense
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: of mind. I'm not sure about Halfley as as a
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: head coach, but you know he runs more of like
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: a four to three, a lot of zone.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Coverage, so that's yeah, that's the bigger question. Mete like Halfley,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: this is an interesting spot for him. Yeah, he's a
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: relative unknown. He did a good job in Green Bay
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Before that, he was head
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: coach at Boston College. Like, as far as NFL head
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: coaches go, I think, especially a defensive guy, that's a
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: thinner resume. Would you say, I'm not saying you didn't
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: earn it, but that's a thinner resume than some of
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the defensive guys you see hired in the NFL.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: He well He was the head coach at Boston College,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: so he has some head coaching experience at a BS program,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe a little bit thinner. I think won
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: him the job is that his scheme in green Bay
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: defensively became sort of a blueprint for a lot of
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: defenses against certain teams, especially in that North Division, that
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: teams sort of were like, oh, this guy's doing some
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: things over here that are worth talking about, worth mentioning.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: A lot of simulated pressures, a lot of you know, disguise,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: blitzing zone coverages, two high safety shells, like some of
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the it buzzy things that we see happening around the
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: NFL defensively, and that's all well and good, but their
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: roster right now is just doesn't have a ton of talent,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and they have a general manager and John Eric Sullivan.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: It's also a green Bay guy typically speaking, and I
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: think this is the way that they've sort of aligned themselves.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Alex typically speaking, green Bay guys are slow build guys. Yeah,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: green Bay now Elie Wolf is maybe a little bit
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: of a departure from that. He's been a little bit
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: more aggressive than your typical Green Bay guy. But I
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: think some of that is because he's in New England
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: and in the Boston sports market, and you can't. The
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Boston sports market is not going to allow you to
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: wait three years until you're good, so you have to
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: be faster down in Miami. Though, you know you mentioned
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: the teams in their early two thousands all it always
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: feels like Steven Ross, their owner is pretty splashy, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: like they tend to go out and spend money and
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: trade for Tyreek Hill and signed Santonio Holmes always comes
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: to mind, right when we talk about this kind of stuff,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: like they they throw money around and their owner has it,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: has deep pockets. But this is not the structure for that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: This is a discipplinned, defensive minded head coach with a
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: disciplined Green Bay packerway court general manager. To me, that
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: signifies that Miami is going to be a little bit
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: more deliberate with this thing that's not really their.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Mo It is like you think that South Beach the Dolphins,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: mind me, that flashy signing, no offense half, He's not
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a flashy signing. No, he's not a household name now.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: But I to your point, I think they're going in
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: the right direction. I think they're gonna be patient this time.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: They made a lot of draft picks, a lot of
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: draft picks. Now some of them I don't agree with.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: But they went Caden Proctor, Chris Johnson, the corner, Jacob Rodriguez,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: we both really liked. Caleb Douglass was a pretty surprise
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: pick at wide receiver for them in the top one hundred,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Wilkes Merrick the tight end from Ohio State, blocking tight end,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: and then Chris Bell was probably my favorite pick that
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: they made, just because of where they got him and
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: the value. The Caden Proctor pick was a little bit
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: controversial at the time too. They went Caden Proctor twelve.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Overall over probably playing at guard.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, over some better players that that was, or maybe
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: not better players, but just players that were also highly
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: ranked prospects. I think did they draft them ahead of
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Caleb Downs Honestly they did They might have been. Yeah,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: so that was a little bit of a surprise. But
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: that's one, two, three, four, five, six picks I think
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: in the top one hundred.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I hope you're building a core.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's the way that there.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: They also got Kyle Lewis later, who was expected to
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: be a top one hundred pick and Kyle Lewis and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Jake Rodriguez together. Man, if that, if that hits, if
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that pans out, that's gonna be a whole lot of fun.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting, uh departure from Miami. Again,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I think in our lifetime, at least in our NFL lifetime,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: they've been an instant gratification team. We're gonna we're gonna
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: draft a quarterback. We're gonna hire the offensive minded, you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: h hot commodity and Mike McDaniel. We're gonna trade for
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill like that's been. It's been all flash, no substance.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: You love to say that about the Dolphins. I feel
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: like the other thing that they've always been to down
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: there in Miami is more of like a finesse team
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: in recent years with McDaniel, and it worked in that
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Miami heat, I feel like, and then they get into
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: these playoff games, you know, especially over the years, they
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: played some crazy cold.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Games, remember in the play Buffalow.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just didn't travel the type of football
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: they played this they were never good enough on the
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. They just didn't travel. So interesting times
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: in Miami. I think that they're a team at the
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Patriots should go to and O against Is that fair
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: to say?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: And they will see what happens with them at quarterback?
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: You think they might be a Texas tech kid.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So now there's some questions about there's a lot of
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: questions if the NFL is gonna let stores be play
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: and like legally could he get in trouble for for
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: what he did? I somebody could get a first round
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: pick on there could be no bit on Soorsby. This
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: whole thing has been I mean, it's a fun storat.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say a fun story. It's been a roller coaster.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: It's been a lot to follow.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting story. I don't think it's fun.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah it's not fine. It's not ending anytime soon.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. I think there's two teams in
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: the AFCs that could be interested in Soreesby if he
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: makes it to this supplemental draft. When's the last we
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: did this? A couple of weeks ago. It's like twenty
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: eighteen or nineteen, the last supplemental draft pick. It's been
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: a minute. There have been some players that have been good,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Josh Gordon Terrell, pryor. You know, it's not a complete nothing,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: but that's that's the Miami Dolphins, in the state of
• 54:28
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• 54:31
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• 54:44
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  Speaker 1: some of the fans as they were experiencing and seeing that.
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  Speaker 1: like being in that environment just as a fan, even
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  Speaker 1: if it's first sport. I don't watch a lot, and like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily care about Scotland National soccer until last week,
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  Speaker 2: The soccer has been phenomenal. I mean, it's just really
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: been a really good turn.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with soccer. Secondary for me, there's some
• 1:00:49
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• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: watch it down the stretch, like by the time Eve
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: even because I was finishing up work last night the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Norway game, like that kid had like three goals before
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I turned the game on. Yeah, I saw. I'm like,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: if there's a cool goal set on social media, it's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: these late games that are tied or it's only one
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: goal that dead. I've had fun watching. There's been a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: lot of ties.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I think that you know, look, you don't have to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: be a big fan of the sport itself, but you
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: to like understand that watching greatness and athletic like athletic greatness,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I think is just cool no matter what. Yesterday you
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: had a trifecta of Bape early Harlan with Norway and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Messy at night. Yeah, It's like it just even as
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: a sports fan, it just doesn't get much better than that.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: To just see three guys that are you know, Messy
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: might not be quite at his peak, but he's still scored.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, sounds like Rinaldo did like nothing in this game.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah watched, although I said it on Puver and all
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: those is a little bit washed. He's forty one.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: I mean forty one.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's older than MESSI but to see something like that,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: even if you don't like the sport. And I would
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: also just say, because I gotta get this out, because
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: I've just been really excited about it since Friday night.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: To have a US men's team play as well as
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: they did in a World Cup game as they did
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: the other night against Paraguay was just all sorts of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: exciting for me as somebody that you know, we've been
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: through some dark times like US men's national team. I'm
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: trying to think of a good top because they're not
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: like the worst team in the world, right, Like it's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: not like they're like the Browns or the Jets or
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: something like that of international soccer, but they've just are
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: a never really truly have a chance to win it,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: and they're kind of just a Middler. You know, they're
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: just always stuck in like purgatory of like good enough
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: to be competitive, but not good enough to actually win.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: The other night, I was the best game I've ever
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: seen them play. And I've following US soccer pretty closely
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: for most of my like adult life, and that was
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: the best I've ever seen them play. And it was
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: It was pretty exciting. And I think that, you know
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: that all these different things coming together at once, like
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: could really uh present like sort of a moment here
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: and if with soccer in this country to be hosting
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: the World Cup, to have a competitive US men's team,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: you know, if all that kind of comes together all
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: at once, and this could be a pretty fun summer,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Like this could be something pretty cool. So I hope
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: it does because that's good for the game. That's good
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: for the game. It was also really good. We got
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: an email in from from Anthony was ragging me about
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: the Knicks. I also love that this is happening at
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: the same time that the Knicks won their first title
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: in fifteen.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, all the Knicks fans, like my
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: friend Bradley down the hall, are telling me that that's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: not true, that that didn't happen. Okay, I don't know
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: about that, but uh, you know, the Knicks run happens,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: And honestly, I felt myself to make it Patriots because
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: it's a Patriots show. I felt myself thinking more about
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: it from a Spurs standpoint than a Knicks standpoint. Okay,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: So the Spurs I feel like were more inevitable than
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: the Patriots, certainly because they had Wemby, and Wemby was
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: always going to be good. You know, Wemby was always
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: going to be a big deal in the NBA. But
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: the Spurs last year, or I guess two years ago,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: if you want to say last year is over were
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: a lottery team. They picked Dylan Harper I think number
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: two overall. I mean some of that was ping pong
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: ball luck. But they were a bad team. Wemby did
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: you know. It was hurt a lot of the year,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I believe, but they were just not a good basketball team.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: And they kind of did the Patriots thing. They kind
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: of went from worse to first in a lot of ways.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: But what happened was is they climbed the mountain. They
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: got to the NBA Finals, just like the Patriots got
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. And they just kind of weren't ready,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Like they just weren't ready for that stage, and they
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: weren't ready to win it. And we we talked about
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: this a lot in twenty twenty two, probably with the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two Celtics. We're talking about it with the Spurs,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: We're talking about it with the Patriots. I just think
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: it goes to show just in all sports, and basketball
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: probably happens more frequently than others, but in all sports,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: you kind of have to lose before you win, yeah,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: and you have to taste your own blood a little
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: bit before you win. And both those teams, it made
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: me feel the same way. They kind of both arrived
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: a little bit earlier than they were supposed to with
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: the Patriots and the Spurs. Yeah, and they got to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: that point, you know, at the end there, and they
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: just weren't ready for the moment. And the Spurs probably
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: had a better chance of flipping that series, and the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Patriots ever did flipping the Super Bowl, but the Spurs
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: got you know, bounced in five games by the Knicks.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was a long, competitive seven game series.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: So I feel like that that always type of stuff
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: always interests me because you know Wemby is you know
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Wemby and Drake May is now on his way to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: being one of the faces of the league in the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: NFL and one of the best quarterbacks in the league.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: And both those guys losing the title round. You know,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: they both come up a couple of games short, or
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: a game short in Drake May's case. But congratulations to
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: the Knicks. All right, that's the best I can do.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Where are you with Giannis? You want your honest? You
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: don't want you honest?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: He might just is it him or me? There's something
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: that's a team choked. You know how I feel about chokers.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: You can't that that's an ingrained identity.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Thing the Celtics team, do you mean?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Well? I did I forgive the Celtics for blowing two
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: twenty point leads the Knicks last year?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I did not, and so I'm not gonna do it
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: to the Spurs now. The question is were the lights
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: too bright for Giannis or for Wemby? Or is Mitch
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Johnson so bad that he can't even win with Wemby?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I think that this is an interesting conversation
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: about coaching in the NBA that probably just people that
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: listen to this show do not care about one one bit.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: But I hear what you're saying. I think that to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: me in all of these sports, I think that there's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: just something to be said for the simplest thing is
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: the truth, and that is that sometimes the lights are
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: just too bright and in there.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: But who are the lights too bright for Wemby? Mitch
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: jo there too bright for dearon Fox?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Probably all a combination of all the above. But Wemby
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: is twenty two to twenty three years old. It would
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: have been like him and Bill Walton as like the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: two guys that won a title at that age. Sure,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: you know Drake may football, it happens a little bit more.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Brady was younger, Mahomes was younger, But it doesn't it's.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Still not well. I mean, I did this with Jason Tatum.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: For a while. It was Jason Tatum can't get over
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: the hump, can't get over the hump, can't go to
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: and people were talking about like he was incapable, and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I remember saying, like he's still young. He hasn't. You
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: haven't gotten over the hump until you have. Everybody at
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a point in their career like There's never been a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: rookie quarterback as one of Super Bowl, right, Right, So
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at with Wemby is like
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not willing to label him with this yet, especially
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: because I think the coach might be a huge part
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: of it. But it's he's gonna have to prove it.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have to prove that it's not the case.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: And you know, I'd say the same for Drake. Drake
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: had a bad playoffs. He didn't play well in the playoffs,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: especially compared to the regular season, Like he adds some
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: down performances. I'm not willing to sit here and say
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Drake May is anti clutch, Drake May sucks in the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: playoffs a lates or two bright No, by no means
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: it's been one run. It was his first run. But
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: when we get back to the playoffs next year, like
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: that's gonna come back up and he's gonna have to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: prove that that's not the case.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I think isn't fair is during the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: regular season. And I'll say this for Wenby two because
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: people do this in sports all the time, like say
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the Patriots start off six and zero, right, just hypothetically, well,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: what does it matter, he's gonna suck in the play
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: You can't do that. Yeah, Like, you're just gonna have
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: to see in the playoffs. But that's where I think
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing. I'm not willing to put a
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: label on either of them yet, but it's a reality
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: now that they're gonna have to disprove.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I would say, you know, because obviously there's less games
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: in a playoff run in the NFL than there is
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: in the NBA. Yeah, Wemby was pretty darn good for
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: the first three round. He was not very good in
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: the well.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: So this is the other thing with Wemby is because
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: and this is why I was admittedly a little hesitant
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: about Wemby when he like I wasn't buying the hype
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: as much as everybody. And it was because those big
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: lanky guys rarely last physically, they have problems. The Spurs
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: manage his minutes tremendously during he only played twenty nine
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: minutes a game during the regular season. Instead of doing
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: the thing where stars only play like sixty games, they
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: did a different load manage where he didn't play a lot,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: which allowed him to play every game. But the flip
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: side of it is Okay, Now we need him to
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: play forty minutes a game in the playoffs, and he's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: just not conditioned for that. So they're gonna have to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: figure out a way to better ramp him up because
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: he was it was too much of an adjustment for him.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I think to go from playing twenty eight minutes a
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: night to go play forty minutes a night in the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: playoffs in a more intense game.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take a shot out at one of
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: my guys as a green teamer in Luke Cornett a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: little bit. There might be a there might it be
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: the possibility that Wemby is like a thirty to thirty
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: five minute of a game guy and he's just he's
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: just too big and it's just carrying around too much
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: length and weight to play at a high level for
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: forty minutes in a playoff game.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: So if I'm the Spurs, Cornett's fine, but he's not
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: a guy that you can really trust in a playoff
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: game to fill in those minutes.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, at a high level.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: I wonder if they look at it and think instead
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: of trying to push Wemby to a point where he
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: can play thirty eight to forty playoff minutes at a
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: high level.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: What if we get it better, they have to go back.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it get a better backup center. Uh, it's it.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: I just think it's interesting out It really looked in
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of ways like the Spurs were the better
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: team on paper than the next and then they got
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: to the finals and it just the all the young
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: players besides really Dylan Harper. Dylan Harper was pretty solid,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: but all the young players just kind of melted once
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: they got to the finals.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: And the kind of the same thing happened with the Patriots.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I asked you and you went back to the Spurs.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Where are you with Giannis? You want? Do you want
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: to sell this trade?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: For you?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Honest? What do you think they can do without trading
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown? Yeah? Absolutely if they do. I don't know,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never been as but you know this,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I've never been as big into honest as everybody else.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: So I thought everybody's a little too high on it.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: But don't be me wrong. I mean, he's a tremendous player,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I've never thought he's on that level that
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: some people put him to. He had a great you
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: know when they read the title a great run. But
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: that's what I say. I think Jalen Brown's better. I
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: just I like the combo with the If Jalen Brown
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: is happy, I mean, that's the wild card. If Jalen
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Brown doesn't want to be here, you have to trade him.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: If Jalen Brown's fine being here with Tatum, like I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: think you keep building around that duo. I'd rather see
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: them at it at a true center. Like I when
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I was also on sportsb the other night, we had
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: a Celtics right on, he mentioned like Sibonis, right, yeah,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: if you could go out and get Sibonis and add
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: him to what you already have, Jannis is more boom
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: or bust. I think there's certainly more upside if that works.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: It all so feels like something that could blow up
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: spectacularly in their face. This is an older guy who's
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: game tremendous at what he does, but is not exactly
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: a well rounded player. Whereas if you just kind of
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: add you know, a center to what you have, so
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: a bonus or I forget the kid's name in Miami,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: like you're just kind of building on what you already have,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: you know where I stand. My bigger issues with the coach,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: So how big of a swing do they feel like
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: they need to take?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: So I have never been more conflicted with a trade
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: scenario than I am with flipping Jalen for your honest
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Jalen is a Celtic. He's a guy that was drafted
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: by the team. His number, his jersey should be retired
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: by the Celtics when he retires from basketball. He is
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: a Celtics Tall of Famer caliber type of player, Finals MVP,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: multiple All Stars. It's a tough one, but I can
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: see the pros of Giannis. He's a better player when
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: he's healthy. He's got a higher ceiling as a player.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe the Jay's thing has run its course as a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Green teamer. A piece of me that would almost rather
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: see them try to, you know, accomplish another championship and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: maybe even fail going out on their shield with the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Jays than to just kind of like buy one by
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: flipping Jalen Brown for Giannis as a mercenary and winning
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: one that way. But there's also the parallels I saw
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: the other day of you know, KG was around thirty
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: one years old when they got traded from Minnesota to
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Boston and they you know, it opened a window. You know,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: they won a championship and they had to run there
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: for a couple of years. Probably should have won multiple
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: So it's a one that I'm very conflicted on and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with all that. Somebody has an
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: eighty two and HO lineup for us, but this eighty
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: two and OHO lineup, Alex has nineteen sixties Wilt Chamberlain,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: which I'm not I'm not picking on anybody. All right,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: good job you got eighty two and oh, but the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: hard one is getting it without Golden State Warriors nineteen
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: sixties Wild Chamberlain.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean as Wilton Kareem are the two kind
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: of like cheat coods.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: So he go, this is his eighty two and oh lineup.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Let's see how what do you think about it? Stefan
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Marberry at the point h Tracy mc McGrady. The two
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: guard Dominique Wilkins, and this one is Clippers nineties Wilkins,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: which is like he was starting to slow down at
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: that point a little bit. This is not peak Dominique.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Charles Barkley with the Phoenix Suns in the nineties and
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: then Golden State Wilt. I'm a little bit surprised at
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: that team win eighty two and oh. That feels a
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: little bit like the Wilt the Wilt machine.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I still have not gotten twenty to oh on the
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: football one.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: And if you haven't gotten twenty and oh on the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: football one, I don't know who's going to get twenty
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: and oh on the football one. I mean that's one
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: of us. Can't get something.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, No, we're not gonna do this on the show.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Though, No we're not. No, I feel like that's gonna
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: be bad.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I just pulled one off and I got twenty one
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: to twenty five Cleveland Browns. What do you even do
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: with that offense? Twenty What twenty one to twenty five
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Said Nick Chubb? Maybe I guess, Nick Chubb, this is
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: from Jimmy and Kansas, he said. I usually listen late,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: so I hope this gets through. But I just wanted
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: to let Evan know that I appreciate his inadvertent occasional
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: swear word. I understand why your higher ups might not approve,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: but when using good moderation of well, time's work and
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: really add some emphasis. Jimmy, I I'm with you. But
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: it's not it's not a it's not professional to swear
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: on the air. But you know, every once in a while,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: there's just not a there's not.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: A better word outs there's just that it does happen
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: There's not a better word. Uh, do you have a
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: take on you soccer development, because we're getting a lot
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: of emails about that about you soccer development. Paul said
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: the thing on Unfiltered that I feel like a lot
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: of people default to, which is like if our best
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: athletes played soccer, then we would be the best soccer country.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Would be better. I don't know, if we'd be the best,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: would definitely be better.
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  Speaker 2: You know that That bothered me as you can imagine.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: So I was like, come on, like what a let's
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: not say something.
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  Speaker 3: That that's true at all. No, I really can't agree
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: I just like I can just feel the cringing happening
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: from everybody that listens to our shows, that from overseas
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: when they hear stuff like that, because it's like, if
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: it was that simple, then why you know, then just
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: do it then.
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  Speaker 5: I guess even if we liked soccer as much as
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: even England, like if it was ingrained just like in England. Yeah,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: I do think that we have too many options, like
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: too many things to choose from to just be dominating
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: at soccer as well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I just don't we have too many things
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: to choose from. I also just you know, I think
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: that this assumption that our athlete is so far superior
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: to everybody else's the American competition.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: Fine, yes, America has competition, fair enough, man, I get that,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: but we don't have you know, nothing. I think that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: a huge thing is the culture culture in other countries
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: where the only thing they have is soccer, and it's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: not even just sport wise, but like life wise, like
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: we have.
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  Speaker 3: We could go like we have music, like we're we're
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: passionate about music.
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  Speaker 2: Yea.
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  Speaker 3: Oh the places it's like no, soccer is the only
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: way you're getting out that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a I think true for a lot of the
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: smaller countries that are absolutely that are good in the
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: World Cup. You know, some of the South American countries
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: probably especially. But I'll tell you though, like watching I
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: think one of the things that I hope that comes
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: out of all this World Cup FIFA fever is like,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: how do we build on the momentum, like it can't
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: just happen every only every thirty years when the US
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: hosts a World Cup, or every four years when the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: World Cup happens with the men's national team. Like, there
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: has to be a way that's soccer in general and
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: FIFA and or you know, domestically here in the United
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: States that we can kind of capture the people's excitement
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: for the sport. Let's get back to football. Here's a
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: question from Dell, who is from London, but he's asking
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: us about football. With the addition of AJ Brown, another
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: year of Drake any experience is retaining the division crown
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: enough for a realistically good season. So if they win
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: the AFC, start you happy with that?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I call that the baseline. You know, probably should win
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: one playoff game. You don't want to be losing playoff
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: games at home. But I don't know, I'd have to
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: see how they lose that playoff game. But yeah, I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: think they you're not talking about backtracking if they win
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: the division. I guess I would say, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: You know, I'll play your side of the street right
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: here a little bit. I feel like the Bills celebrate
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: winning the division, like that's a like that's a huge.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: So I don't think I think we need to do
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: better than No, I don't think they'd celebrate it, but
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think what was the exact wording.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: There would that be? Like would you be satisfied?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: I that would be enough. I don't think you'd celebrate it,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't consider it like a bad season, you
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, that's probably like the baseline. Like, Okay,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: they they maintained. They didn't do anything more than maintained,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: but they maintained.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I would say, I don't expect them to go on
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: a run to the super Bowl every single year anymore.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Like that was Brady era, Dynasty era times, and I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: think that's too high of.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's what some people are gonna expect
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: because that's just what they're conditioned to around here.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think winning a world yeah playoff game
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: is fair enough. Yeah, Like I think that that, especially
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: if you're hosting the playoff game. If you're winning the
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: division and you're hosting the playoff game, I think that that's, uh,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: that's good enough. This is from Barton Poland fun fact
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: about Jamaica, because we brought up Jamaica earlier in the show.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Jamaica actually lost to the Congo in the World Cup
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: qualifying playoff, and the Congo just drew Portugal, So Jamaica
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: was one of the last teams out of the World Cup. Apparently,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: so they just barely missed in the forty eighteen World Cup. Though,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: if you're barely missing your you're like the fiftieth best
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: team in the country or in the world. Excuse me,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: I think that that you're good. There a few more
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: emails here, had a few more. Let's scrolling down here.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: These ones are old.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: What else we got?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: We got a lot of old emails that I'm trying
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: to go through that we didn't get to. Okay, let's see,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: we've read a lot of these.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like we never get to any of the emails.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Now suddenly we need them in what we're backed up.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we got no nobody calling this when
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: we changed the showtime. I know this is what you
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: get for not reading emails when we change the showtime.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: It's tough. I feel like when we change up show
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: times or later on in the afternoon, people aren't expecting
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: us uh to be on the air.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: Uh oh.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Here here's one from Ellen, Wisconsin. How crazy would it
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: be to trade one of the wide receivers Booty or
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Pop Douglas to the Giants, uh in a trade for
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: cave On Thibodeau. Where are you at with the cave
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: on Thibodeau thing?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been talking about this a lot. Booty
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: for Thibodeau makes a lot of sense. You probably have
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: to throw in a pick too. I think that's absolutely
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: something they should explore. I think it makes teams better.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I think it makes them better in the short run.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Not crazy at all, would make a whole lot of sense.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: So I guess my question is is where the Giants
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: have like thirteen receivers on the roster. I know some
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: of them are kim I know, I know, but like
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: they how worried are they truly about Molik Neighbors Because
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: it feels like a lot of people saw it. Need well,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: I guess the point I'm making is a lot of
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: people saw them sigew they signed like Odell Beckham back Juju, Right,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: they signed all these guys, and everybody made it about
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Melik Neighbors and it's like signing a sixth wide receiver,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: you know, guy that maybe might be your fifty sixth
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: wide receiver isn't really about your superstar receiver coming off
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: of major injury, whereas trading for kaishon Booty is not.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: That's not about adding numbers, that's about adding a guy
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: that can actually play, like make an impact. I feel
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: like that's a much different. I feel like we lose
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: the plot there a little bit. Sometimes we look at, Oh,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: they added you know, a body on the on the
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: wide receiver room. Yet that's not Odell. No one's expecting
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Odell Beckham Junior to go back to being like a star, right,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: So maybe Booty's that guy. Here's an email from Scott
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: He asks or says he doesn't hear anyone mentioning the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals in the AFC as an improved team with
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: the improvements on the defensive side of the ball to
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: go with their receivers, to don't sleep on Cincinnati.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Where do you?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Where are you at with the Bengals, because like I
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: feel like the Bengals, I'm still I still need to
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: see they made that one Super Bowl run, they haven't
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: really been able to recreate that magic since I guess
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: they did make it back to one AFC championship game
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: after that, right, yes, but I feel like I'm done
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: with Bengals. I'm done with it.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: I still think they're incredibly talented offensively, they've just had
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: injuries and then their defense is a teardown. So if
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow can stay healthy, they can get anybody in
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: the conference. But Joe Burrow has to stay healthy and
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: the receivers have to stay healthy because they don't have
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: will a room on defense to work around that.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in the coach. I'll just say it.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they keep the can on to
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: the coach. I understand the quarterback keeps getting hurt and
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: that's a factor. And if your quarterback, and especially one
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: of Joe Burrow's caliber, keeps getting hurt, like you can't
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: do anything about that to an extent, but I just
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: don't think that Zach Taylor is ever going to be
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: the guy. You know, he's a fair he's a fine coach,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: but is he really going to be the guy that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: gets you to the promised Land. I'm not sure. Sean,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: and Vancouver is back on the line. What's up, Sean?
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 7: Thank you?
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 8: Sorry I was cut off before. I have two questions
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 8: one World Cup related and the other Patriots. So here
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 8: in Vancouver it's World Cup crazy. All the streets are closed.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 8: I'm so glad that I don't know a car. Everything
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: is shut off because they have these street shows with
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 8: giant screens, and the Science World is converted to this
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: giant red, wright and blue soccer ball. That's the entrance
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 8: to BC Place, because BC Places downtown. You walk from
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: there to get to the stadium if you have over
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 8: a grand to afford a ticket, and it's just insane.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 8: There's just so much stuff. But I know that Boston
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 8: Stadium is an hour's drive from Boston, so I'm wondering
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: what the city of Boston is like in terms of
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: World Cup. Is it centered there as well or is
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: everything down in Foxborough? And the football question, the Patriots
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: question that I have is about Landry last year. He
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 8: was great when he started, got injured and I'm wondering, like,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 8: do you expect him to be back to near where
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 8: he was before the injury, and if so, when will
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 8: that happen? And I'll take that.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: Off the air.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Sean, I appreciate it. To the
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: second question first, and then we'll do the non football topic. Second,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: I don't have a whole lot of expectations for Harold Landry.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Now, that doesn't mean that I
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: don't think that he can add any value as a
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: veteran player and a rable guy and a captain and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. I think that inherently adds
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: value to the team on its own. But what we
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: saw last year, I felt like it was a guy
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: that was starting to break down physically. He mentioned the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: hot start, you know, the numbers back it up. His
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: pressure rates, his you know, whatever metric or stat you
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: want to use to measure pressure on the quarterback just
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: fell off a cliff after that, New Orleans scare, the
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: injury scaring New Orleans, and I just don't have a
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: whole lot of expectations. If they get something out of
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: Harold Landry that resembles the pre injury Harold Landry, then great, Yeah,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: but I'm not counting on it. Which is why I
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm so worked up about the gay backus thing,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: because I feel like Akis is supposed to be the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: one that lessons of the burden on Harold Landry.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: How much expectations do you think they have for Harold Landry,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: I think is the bigger question.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Probably a little bit more than I do. But I
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: don't think it's a ton more because how could you like,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: it's a guy that at his age has played a
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: lot of football. I mean, Rabel said it. They basically
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: had a told him to sit out the spring because
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: you know, they're just trying to get him right and
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: trying to keep him healthy. My expectations are pretty low.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but that's where I'm I'm
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: sort of that with it.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I again, the player he was second half last year.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: If he's still rehaving that, that's a serious injury. We
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: saw what he was last year and if that is
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: what it is like, then they're gonna need Actus or
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: somebody else to step up.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. To the second the World Cup question, I feel
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: like it's definitely more downtown Boston.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: So it's also apparently like Providence is a ton going on. Okay, cool,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: So I think it's everywhere. I think it's Boston, Providence
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: and Fox because people are staying, people are staying all over.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I know, I got to just find
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: a place to stay.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: So I know there's there's people on the Cape, people
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: like Scottish fans staying on the Cape Tucket. I know
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: out in in Hall. My my parents said they saw
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: people at one of like a lot of people one
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: of the it's everywhere. I mean, I was out of
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Barn Quincy the other night, a lot of people in Quincy.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's really everywhere.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is pretty cool how much it's taken over.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's what's different, because it's trying to think
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: of a comparison, and the city is alive when a team,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: one of the local teams goes on a playoff run
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: like last year and the Patriots are on their run,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: or the Celtics in twenty twenty four, or the Red
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Sox when they have had their World Series runs, like,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: the city does come alive, but it doesn't have this
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: influx of tourism where there's twenty thousand extra people that
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: are coming into Yeah whatever, it is like that, it's
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: all the same. The amount of people that are that
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: are out and about and have a hop in their
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: step is this is the same amount as it is
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: when there isn't a playoff run. Now you have like
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: that kind of excitement of like a deep playoff run
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: for a Boston sports team, but with like whatever many thousands,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: tens of thousands of extra people coming flocking through the city.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of a crazy sort of phenomenon that's
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: going on. Eldrid is on the line. What's up, Eldrid?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 9: Hey tell us? How y'all doing good?
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: Hey?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 9: Hey, Evan. I hope they don't trade Jalen. I'd rather
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 9: keep the Jays and just build around everywhere else. But
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: I hope he don't go. I think he should be,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 9: you know, retired Hall of Fame also, but I got
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 9: a question for y'all. Uh Edge Russian, uh Ken Tibodol?
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 9: That guy is it? Because he's in the what's fiffy
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 9: year and he can be seeking a contract after you know,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 9: this year. That's why they ain't try to move on him,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 9: even though uh Akis is you know hell Fang and
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 9: Landry or do you think it's just they're gonna try
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 9: to try it in that room what he was talking about,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 9: and I don't think they got enough.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: What do y'all think?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: Thanks? Al just as he asking why why not trade
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: for Thibodeaux?
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Basically, I think why are the Giants trading thiboda.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Well, so Thodau' is on his fifth year option. This year,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: he's playing on fifth year option for the Giants. He
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: needs a new contract. The Giants have done nothing but
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: draft edge rushers for the last couple of drafts. You know,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: they draft Abdul Carter obviously, they have Brian Burns, who
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: they traded for. They draft the Ohio State kid this
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: past draft. You know, they've just added a lot of
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: pass rushers to that group. And they also have Thibodeaux.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: So they have like four guys that they're heavily invested in,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: and Thibodeau is in a contract year and sort of
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: the odd man out. I like the idea of making
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: that trade. But I think the biggest reason why I
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: like the idea of making the trade not just because
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: I think Thibodau' is a solid player. I would just
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: they've come really far with this roster, and I would
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: just hate to come this far, just to come this far, right, Like,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: and then you get into the season and you're just
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: an edge rusher short and you knew it, and you
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: knew it in June that you were an edge rusher short.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: It's kind of the same way I feel about tight
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: end without Julian Hill now in the picture, Like you
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: feel like you just see these problems, these holes on
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: the roster and it's a Super Bowl roster pretty much
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: everywhere else. But do you have enough edge pass rush?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Do you have enough of depth at tight end? Like
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: these are things that you can conceivably take care of
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: so that you're not just standing on the tracks waiting
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: for the train to come, you know, yeah, And I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: would just hate to get into January and they lose
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: a playoff game because they can't get anybody any pressure
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: on the quarterback. And you know, one of these quarterbacks
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: lights them up in the playoffs, and you're like, we
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: said six months ago that they didn't have enough pass rush, right,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure they feel the same way. That's why
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're gonna go all in and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: you're going to trade a first round pick for AJ Brown,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna pay a nice contract to Romeo Dobbs,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna bring back all the guys, you know,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: the highly paid guys from last year. If you're gonna
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: do all these things, then just do it, Like, just
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: go all in at that point, like you're already ninety
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: percent in you already traded a future first round pick
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: for AJ Brown, So what's a third round pick or
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: a fourth round pick plus Kasehan Booty for Keeveon Thibodeau
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: at that point, Like, you've already done it, You've already
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: pushed your chips in the middle. Just push them all in.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: They I I think I've done this ran a lot
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: that like they we we've been so focused on them
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: in the five year window because they're rebuilding team and
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: now they're not just trading Kaishan Booty for cave On Thibodaux,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: like Kaisham body in a pick kind of knock into
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: your long term window. Yeah, maybe a little bit. But Thibodeau,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: you're trying to get back to Super Bowls here. Who
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: helps them do that more Thibodeaux or Booty Thibodeaux Exactly.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: I just I don't want to get into a position
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: where you're you're you're trying to appease too many masters,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: like your foot's in too many doors, right, Like you're
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: trying to still have the eye to the future and
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: you're trying to win. Now. It's like you you traded
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: a future first round pick for a J. Brown, Like
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: you're winning now like this is this is what you're doing.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: You're trying to maximize the end of Drake May's rookie contract.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: You're trying to push the trips all all in the middle.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: Go do it, go after it, Go get that Edgresser.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: I think I'm going to make an executive decision. Guys,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: I think I can call it. I think I'm gonna
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: call it.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: You don't have any more emails, We have no more emails.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: We were light on the callers. We did.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: We did our hour. I'm trying to think if there's
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: anything else. No, come on, we can get this two hours.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: I think I think I'm gonna call it.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna rap it. We're already cutting a show.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm rapid later.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: We literally were talking about Wemby and the Spurs for
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: for ten minutes of this second hour. Already, Do you
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: got anything else on football?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: What do you got?
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: I talk about your boys, sores b a little bit
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: more so that.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, legitimately you got twenty five minutes on not twenty
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: five minutes. I did because I do think this could
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: end up being relevant to Patriots. Okay, I do think
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: he could end up with the Jets of Dolphins. It's
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: not impossible. Have you watched him at all? No, I
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: we well, because you watched Cincinnati last year. Oh, I
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: guess that's true, right, So, like, I think the question
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: is going to be although prob I'm looking at the
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: YouTube comments. Apparently the audio cutouts, so maybe the show
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: was deciding that we're done. But yeah, if he were good,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: we're back, all right? Like should the Jets or the
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Dolphins give up legitimate you know field the a type
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: of thing the other night that like second round pick
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: and I think Schefter said that to second round pick
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: is the bid? Should the Jets or the Dolphins consider
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: doing that? And as a Patriots fan, would you be
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: nervous if he ends up in the division? I mean
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: there's people talking about him like a first round caliber talent.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: Anytime a team of year division drafts a quarterback in
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: the first round that's notable, you know you listen to.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Would not be nervous? Like his tape and look, I
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: didn't study him closely. I was watching the receiver. Who's
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: the receiver cirrus?
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: A couple of them is sarrus alas w Jeff called, well.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Right, I wasn't watching him specifically. Yea, but it didn't
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: pop off. I remember a couple of years ago when.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: I watched Josh Downs and you knew Drake.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, who's this quarterback that's playing for
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: North Carolina? I did not feel that way about soorsby
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: watching him. It didn't pop off. Like there was another team.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: I was watching one of their wide receivers. I think
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: that had a quarterback that's going to be in this
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: year's draft. Did I let that that did? Do that
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: pop off?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: South Carolina?
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: I don't remember more. Uh no, h it was a
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: smaller school.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: There was a smaller school.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: North Texas is a mess to maker.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, North Texas kid.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's at Oklahoma s Tate now.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he was impressive.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, I's a weird release see a little bit. But
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: like I liked the arm No, I like him too.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: He's fun.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, uh, door is because you're probably watching Dorner.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah who's here now? Yeah?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Uh the uh swords me didn't do that for me necessarily,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: but that was just on a very casual watch of him. Yeah,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: but I I don't worry about it too much.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: I do feel like we do this with like his
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: draft eligible tape. Yeah, if they were counting last year
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: as his draft eligible tape, I don't think that's first
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: round tape.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, he probably had.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: To stack another year of like really good football this fall, yeah,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: at Texas Tech on top of what he did last year.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: Since I mean he's always a high upside prospect. But
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: six three, two thirty five, he can move around a
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: little bit. You know, ran for six hundred yards last year.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: He's toolsy. That's what he is. He's tools. He's very unproven,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: but he's toolsy.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Make a second round pick is probably if I was
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: any of these teams. Now, you have to win the bid.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: If you really like the playoff, then you can't. You can't.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: I just talked about not you know, half half we'll
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: be putting it with Patriots, Like if you're gonna win
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: the bid and.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Then win, that's the thing, Like if you believe he's
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: the guy, yeah, you know, is there enough that you
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: could give up? But I would not be surprised if
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: he ends up in the afcast. I mean, there's not
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: that many teams that it makes sense for. Yeah, the Jets,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Cardinals, the Cardinals, maybe the Browns. If they
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: just want to add another name to that room. Right.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: It seems like the Browns really want to like try
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: the Sean Watson again.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Which, yeah, I think the owner is in that idea.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: One more for you, since we're talking about Kasehan Boody
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: and some of these same teams. If it's not the
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: player for player trade teams you look at that could
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: use a receiver. I have a list for you, okay,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: and would you let's start here, would you trade him
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: in the division. Let's say the Dolphins call you. Would
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: you trade k Shan Boody to the Dolphins? Yeah?
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: Like, this is not like, it's not prim Randy Moss.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: And they can pay the division tax?
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, sure, like just to win the trade. Sure, but
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not like, oh no they can't. We can't give
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: them Kashan Boo.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be super eager to do it. I try
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: to take them out of the division ideally. So here
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: here's the teams I have. And I got like kind
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: of two sleepers at the end. Okay, Giants we talked
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: about they have no talent. They have a lot. The
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: number is big in terms of the players they have
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: wide receive not much. We've been there commanders.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that makes a lot of sense
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: for the commanders. I know they maybe it's his camp,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: but like Diggs has kind of been sniffing around the
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: commanders possibly, I think that they could use another receiver they're.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Trying to like, I mean, Traylon Burks is their X
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: So they have Terry McLaurin obviously, but they're trying to
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: do that whole wide receiver to but by aggregate, like
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: they're trying to just add a bunch of guys together
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: and make them a wide receiver too. I think kishon
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: Booty gives you a legit potential wide receiver to.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Hear me out on this one. The Colts they have
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: Alec Pearce, they have Josh Downs. Those guys are both
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: better on the inside.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: I would say Pier is better on the outside. Think
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, now they did move on from Michael Pippen.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Right and they have Nick Westbrook a Kine in that role. Now, Okay,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: so let's say Booty's up great over him. Yeah, the
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: Raiders just don't really have any receivers.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Beck, I we all liked Beck last year. He hasn't
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: he did not have an encouraging rookie year. We did
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: not their top series right now with jack Back, Trey Tucker,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: I do like Trede Tucker is like Dante Forton type.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: No, those are all I think, good complimentary place.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bet struggled to separate, couldn't run.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the Chiefs because they just I would
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: not trade to the Chiefs. You would not, so you
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: would trade him in the division, but you would not
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: because I think the Dolphins interesting.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: I think the Justs and the Dolphins are gonna blow
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: and I don't think that is going to change.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: That fair I'm all right, fine, I won't argue with that,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: don't I see if the Chiefs call you with a
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: third round pick, would you do it.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: I think that the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes are currently
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: a sleeping giant.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: I don't have really much interest in giving the sleeping
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: giant any sort of motivation to wake up. The Patriots.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: That's one team that you know you don't want to
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: see prime Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game. Let's keep
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: let's keep Kansas City down. You know, Rashi Rice, who
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: the heck knows Taekwon Thornton is like a guy for them. Now,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey on his last leg, like, let's not do
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs any favors. And I'm looking at you, Buffalo,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: don't don't trade anybody.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: No, They've already done two huge favors for the Chiefs.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: So let's not do any additional favors to Kansas City.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: Let's let the sleeping dog lie.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: All right, here's two more that are kind of sleepers.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: And these don't look like wide receiver needy teams on
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: the surface. But I think specifically Booty's role, yeah, would
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: be a big boost Tampa. So you have Igbuka, you
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: have Godwin, so they lose Mike Evans. They lose Mike Evans,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: so you have Godwin and Buka. I think Booty gives
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: you something different than those two guys give you. He
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't give you what Mike Evans gave you, but he
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: gives you something different. Like Jalen McMillan's their third guy.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I think Booty adds more of a dynamic there, and
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Godwin's a little bit older.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan to Washington at least was more of an
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: inside player. Yeah, and Muka and Godwin are more inside.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: So they did draft ted Hurst in the third round,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: but that's give you some more time to develop ted Hurst. Yeah,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: so that's what you win on that or is that
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: a stretch because NFC South Sure?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: And how about the Rams they want to plan be
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: behind DeVante Adams. First of all, they need Jordan. Whittington's
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: not good enough to be a third guy. I like Jordan.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: They just don't play a whole lot of three receivers anymore,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: like they play so much to that heavy tight end usage.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: And Pukah is the one guy.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: And yeah, but he gives you good insurance behind Adams.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: He does a Adams is going to miss games, like
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: might you're not going to miss the whole year, but
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: he'll miss his three or four games with the hamstring
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: poll or something like that.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: He'd be in probably an extension candidate for them.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rams f them picks. They traded all their picks. Anyways,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: we can get the Rams to give you a better
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: pick because they're.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: Just they don't care about the pick.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: They don't care about the picks.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: That's my So that's my short list for Kayshawn Boody.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: What do you think would be the best fit for
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: him of those teams Giants, Commander's Colts, Raiders, Chiefs, Buccaneers, Rams.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: I think that whenever you have the Rams in there,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: that's always a great offensive player. I would say the Commanders.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: I think playing off of Terry McLaurin with Jayden Daniels
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: throws a great deep ball. I think that that's a
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: really nice fit for him, and I think he play
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: a lot. I don't really think that their other wide
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: receiver threes through sevens or eights that they have, that
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: they're trying to create a wide receiver too out of
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think those guys are as good
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: as Kishan Booty is. I think he's a bit better.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: He would be like a clear cut yeah, you know,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: Robin to McLaurin. So, all right, you got an extra
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: ten minutes out of it.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: Good job trying to give the people their money's worth.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. I'm telling you. It's not our fault.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: Should we do it twenty you? Oh, it's not.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's bad radio. If we had, like if
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: people could see it, maybe it would be better radio.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: It's like when we try to do like live mock drafts.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: It's tough. We're gonna be back next week, though. I
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: want to do next week. Alex. Remember that tweet I
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: sent you from Daniel Jeremiah a ways a couple of
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: weeks back.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: Yea.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: So Daniel Jeremiah had this thing where it was like
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: a thought exercise, and it was you need twelve players
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: as like a foundation. And it was like a quarterback off,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: a couple offensive playmakers, a couple of good offensive linemen,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: a couple of good defensive playmakers. You know that sort
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: of thing. And I want to do it with the
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: Patriots and see how many of the twelve the Patriots
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: have so like, for example, like they obviously have the
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: quarterback right, so that one's checked, But do they have
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: it all one through twelve? Are they are? True? In
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah's mine, that's that's a true contender is if
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: you have all twelve. The super Bowl conteer is if
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: you have all twelve. So we'll do that next week.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: We'll do the around the Apes he's with the Bills,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: which I'm sure will be a good time.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Hang on. So many in YouTube comments had a good idea. Okay,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: a twenty and Oh, he's.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: Just really determined to get this.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: No, because I want to see you do this. Hang on,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: I want to see you this twenty and O. But
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: it's only Patriots, Okay, So starting off sixteen to twenty
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen twenty twenty offense only Patriots sixteen to twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen to twenty twenty only Patriots, only Patriots Tom Brady. So,
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  Speaker 1: but here's the thing we could get, like, oh, seven
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  Speaker 1: Brady later? Do you want to use twenty seventeen Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady or.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he was still the MVP of the league.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So twenty seventeen Tom Brady at quarterback? All right?
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  Speaker 8: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Twenty one to twenty five Patriots offense offense Joe Toney, Well,
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  Speaker 1: they don't have lineman. I think that has to be Digs, right.
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  Speaker 2: Is they don't have lineman?
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  Speaker 1: Has Digs been the best offense?
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  Speaker 2: Don't have the most important position group.
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  Speaker 1: On the field. Is it digs or is it twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two? Remandre I think it's digs right. I'll go
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  Speaker 1: Digs sure, because we're not Oh, we might get a
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  Speaker 1: better wide receiver, but that's up there. Eleven to fifteen
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  Speaker 1: page see so now we didn't get twenty eleven Brady Gronk. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we got to go twenty eleven Gronk, right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right? Uh six to ten, two thousand and six
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  Speaker 1: to twenty ten. We still need a running back. We
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  Speaker 1: have Randy Moss, Yes, Randy Moss or Wes Welker Randy Moss.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we have mod Randy.
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  Speaker 2: Gronk, We have digs ooh, prime Brady.
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  Speaker 1: Ninety nine to five. Okay, and let me remind you
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  Speaker 1: we still need a running back.
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  Speaker 2: We still need a running back, Corey Dillon.
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  Speaker 1: Fawk killing Corey Dillon at running back? All right, flex
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  Speaker 1: six to ten, So we get Moss and Welker. There
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  Speaker 1: you go. That's the offense defense last five years, twenty
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  Speaker 1: one to twenty five. Probably jude On, right.
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  Speaker 2: Christian Zales see an option.
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  Speaker 1: It goes by like production though. Okay, so I guess then, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: unless J. C. Jackson had a bunch of picks a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, we'll go jude On, there's a
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  Speaker 1: chance will end up coming back that what was that hot? Well,
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  Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty five when have high time? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. We got twenty one to twenty five again,
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  Speaker 1: you want to go Gonzo, yep, Gonzo Gonzo. All right,
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  Speaker 1: fair enough, ninety nine to five the early run defenses. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: where's Richard Seymour? And it's tough to get defensive tackles.
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  Speaker 2: And we already picked a corner. I guess I could
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  Speaker 2: have picked Tyler.
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  Speaker 1: So we do have a flex. We could go a lot.
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  Speaker 1: We could go Rodney. You want Seymour, Seymour at de tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Another ninety nine to five go Rodney, could also go Bruski.
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  Speaker 1: You want to go Rodney, Rodney, Rodney, Harrison and d
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  Speaker 1: We're getting like the best years for here. We go,
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  Speaker 1: Oh six to ten is a little thinner for defense.
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  Speaker 1: On defense, we go Rabel the linebacker. We've got Vin,
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  Speaker 1: we got big Vince.
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  Speaker 2: To ten is rookie Devin mccordy rookie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh good, one twenty No, it's twenty eleven. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's twenty ten. Oh yeah, there he is in the flex.
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  Speaker 1: Although we do need a linebacker. There's also oh no, there,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have rookie un T Tower. We have Peter h.
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  Speaker 2: Tower is twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so we'll go Devin mccordy at the flex. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty five at linebacker Splaine, van Ney,
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  Speaker 1: Chase on Ouch, Tavai Gibbons, Bentley, Landry ponders on here,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like twenty one High Tower.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it's Splain, like high Tower
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  Speaker 2: in twenty one?
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  Speaker 1: Was he? I don't think he was great.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna say Splain, thanks, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go with Robert Splain. Yeah, eighteen and two. No,
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  Speaker 1: there's it said Splaine was the one that held us back.
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  Speaker 2: There's no, there's nobody that's beating.
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  Speaker 1: I guess we could have done a re instead and
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  Speaker 1: try to get a different line.
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  Speaker 2: Back crime Brady all right, So here loss in prime Gronk,
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  Speaker 2: and you think that we were going.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: To Grady Corey, Dylan Stefan Diggs, Rob Marnkowski, Randy Moss, Westwolker. Legitimately,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that we could do better than that.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't know you can.
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  Speaker 1: You can't. I don't think you can do any better
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  Speaker 1: than that. For the Patriots defense, Judon Seymour, Splain, Gonzales,
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  Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison, Devin mccorty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense was maybe a little.
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  Speaker 1: I guess we could have respund for linebacker and try
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  Speaker 1: to get prime high tower. Yeah or prime. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think of that, but it's still pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we could have done better.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll try next week, all right, now, are you good?
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