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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, September 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jack Warris, Did you don't Jack Jack Warris? Did you
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Speaker 1: know Jack Warris drive time righting sex text actually sex
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Speaker 1: Jack Warris drive telling him starts right now. A lot
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Speaker 1: of guys who have a chip on their shoulder here,
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Speaker 1: A lot of guys who are who hear that, who
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Speaker 1: see a lot of fans upset and saying, you know,
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Speaker 1: the Jacks don't have anything left in the tank, they
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Speaker 1: don't have any players. Uh. And they already had a
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Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder and now you're just piling on
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. A lot of guys who are
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Speaker 1: working extremely hard, who are talented, they're not household names. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's a big point, is Uh. They
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Speaker 1: know they gotta work for everything that they get. Nothing's
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Speaker 1: gonna be handed to him. Uh. And they're ready to
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Speaker 1: go out there and to play some games. And just
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Speaker 1: because you haven't seen or heard of them yet, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they can't play. Uh. And so I believe
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Speaker 1: in these guys. Uh. And they're they're extremely motivated and
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Speaker 1: focused really to fill those shoes that are left by
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Speaker 1: those guys and to go out there and create a
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Speaker 1: new identity. Jackson Jaguar is wide receiver Chris Contantly on
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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football earlier this week, talking the Jaguars getting
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Speaker 1: the game voting campaign, talking about what the Jaguars are
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Speaker 1: doing in the social justice movement and what you heard
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Speaker 1: just they're all about the Jaguars being counted out before
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Speaker 1: even week one. Definitely a motivated locker room after this week.
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Speaker 1: As we start Jaguars Drive Time on this Thursday morning,
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Speaker 1: bring in Brian Sexton and John Osier, my co hosts.
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Speaker 1: Brian planning out this show and I couldn't believe this
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Speaker 1: is the last show before the regular season. We're back
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Speaker 1: Monday morning. It's for real. Yeah, it doesn't seem possible
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Speaker 1: that we're ready to go with the season, just because
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Speaker 1: you know, the off season seemed to stretch forever and
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Speaker 1: I think that distorted our sense of reality and time,
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Speaker 1: and then training camp was so different. Haven't done this
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Speaker 1: and John can attest as long as we have. You
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Speaker 1: get into a rhythm, and that rhythm was completely disrupted,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now here we are at
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Speaker 1: the very beginning of the season. It feels weird, for sure, yes,
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Speaker 1: but not agree more. Brian Sexton. Let's get into big things,
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Speaker 1: shall we. Big thing one is slighted. This is nothing new,
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Speaker 1: but especially this week, the locker room is feeling it
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Speaker 1: now more than ever. This team has been pounded out
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Speaker 1: by national attention before Week one. Players are using that
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Speaker 1: counted out feeling for their advantage. I think there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of guys in that on our team that thrive
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Speaker 1: off of that mentality In the NFL, I mean, everybody
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Speaker 1: got here, everybody deserves to be here. Who is here,
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Speaker 1: and when you are slighted in terms of preseason expectations
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Speaker 1: or what people think of you, I mean that puts
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Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder and as competitive individuals, you
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Speaker 1: want to prove everybody wrong. So that's definitely something that
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Speaker 1: will be able to take and use to our advantage.
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Speaker 1: I think big thing too is no question the biggest
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Speaker 1: takeaway from defensive coordinator Todd washes press conference was now
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Speaker 1: at the depart u of Unique and Gockway to the Vikings,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars need a prominent defensive end on the other
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Speaker 1: side of Josh Allen. Here comes Calavon Chason once again.
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Speaker 1: Not only his play strength, but he's a very intelligent
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Speaker 1: young man. Um But I think we want to do
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Speaker 1: what's best for our football team. And obviously what's best
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Speaker 1: for him to have success. Um, you know, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: play him at defensive end. Um, he's gonna be playing
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Speaker 1: a lot for us, and uh, we're we're very very
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Speaker 1: excited about that. And uh, you know, like I said,
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Speaker 1: the best thing is what's best for our team and
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Speaker 1: what's best for him for us to have the best success.
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Speaker 1: And we feel right now that's gonna be leaving him
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Speaker 1: at defensive end. Um, but he can also play in
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Speaker 1: our sub package the big end. So he's got a
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Speaker 1: real nice skill set that we'll be able to get
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Speaker 1: him and Josh on the grass a lot. And big
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Speaker 1: thing three is cut down Day. The roster needs to
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Speaker 1: be set Saturday at four o'clock. Today will be the
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Speaker 1: last practice we see with a full eight a man
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Speaker 1: roster that we've been seeing in training camp over this year.
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Speaker 1: Is a little different. Only eleven players have to be
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Speaker 1: cut from this eight mans. Now the sixty nine man roster.
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Speaker 1: Now that a practice squad has expanded to six teams spots,
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Speaker 1: now this team needs to choose extremely wisely who they
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Speaker 1: put on that practice squad. I think anytime that you're
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Speaker 1: making personnel decisions, you know, we we Obviously we've developed
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Speaker 1: some personal relationships with all these young men and that
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff, so they're tough either way. But I
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Speaker 1: think with the addition of some more practice squad players
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Speaker 1: and veterans and stuff that you can protect. I think
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Speaker 1: it's very important that we understand that guys have to
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Speaker 1: have dual responsibilities. So in case something does happen, Um,
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Speaker 1: you can say, hey, he can play two spots. He
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Speaker 1: can play two spots, and his value really goes up
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Speaker 1: for us. But um, it is obviously very very important
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Speaker 1: that we picked the right guys for the development and
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Speaker 1: if they have to come up because of you know,
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Speaker 1: someone unseen issue, um, that we have the right guys
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Speaker 1: so we can continue to move on as an or
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Speaker 1: ganization and as a team. All Right, it is defensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator Todd Wash addressing the media yesterday. Fella, let's go
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Speaker 1: back up to big Thing to John Osier, Caleb and
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Speaker 1: Chaison was drafted. You're thinking, Wow, this man's got so
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Speaker 1: many options they can claim in a bunch of different roles,
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Speaker 1: a lot of versatility. Then anything goc way, it gets
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Speaker 1: traded to the Vikings Sunday night, and now you're thinking, alright, Caleb,
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Speaker 1: and Chason is that big defensive and they're looking for
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Speaker 1: he's going to play there. Toddwash definitely confirms our thoughts yesterday. Well,
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Speaker 1: what you don't want to do and what the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: have tried not to do in the last three or
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Speaker 1: four years with guys is overloaded with a bunch of
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Speaker 1: different stuff. When Denard Robinson came in, remember he was
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Speaker 1: the offensive weapon, and then they figured out, Okay, we've
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Speaker 1: got to let this guy hone in on it. I
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Speaker 1: think they learned their lesson from some things like that
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Speaker 1: over the years. They're gonna put Chase on at one position,
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Speaker 1: make sure he knows that position. It's what they sort
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Speaker 1: of got criticized for with Josh Allen last year. O
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Speaker 1: why don't you play him at a bunch of different
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Speaker 1: spots when he gets ten and a half second? Let
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Speaker 1: these guys learn how to play in the NFL at
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Speaker 1: one spot and then get them going in another spot.
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Speaker 1: It certainly gives them. Brian a fantastic opportunity to have
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Speaker 1: two young bookend tackle I mean that bookend ends. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that chasn is gonna match Josh Allen's numbers
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Speaker 1: from last year because he had a fantastic rook yere
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Speaker 1: It's omes takes longer to adjust. But I do think
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Speaker 1: he has a chance to contribute in a big way
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Speaker 1: this year, and I think he'll be, as I say,
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Speaker 1: a contributing player very quickly. Well, there's been no preseason
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Speaker 1: games and summer camp. Who's not open to fans, so
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Speaker 1: they haven't had a chance to see him. He's not
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Speaker 1: replacing Unique in Gonquay. In Gonckway, as we have chronicled
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Speaker 1: through the years, was a terrific pass rusher, but wasn't
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Speaker 1: the same guy against the run. That's not the case
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Speaker 1: with calebon Chason. He's closer to Josh Allen than Unique
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Speaker 1: and Godway. This is the guy who can put his
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Speaker 1: hand on the ground and hold up against an autive tackle.
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Speaker 1: He can be disruptive both in the running game and
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Speaker 1: the passing game. So good for them. They've got the
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Speaker 1: versatility to be able to have him on the field
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Speaker 1: three downs and in every possible situation. As far as production,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's possible. I mean, he was what
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Speaker 1: did he have fourteen fifteen sacks in his career at
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Speaker 1: l s U Uh, you know that's gonna take him
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Speaker 1: some time to be able to put the moves together
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Speaker 1: to be that kind of a pass rusher, whereas Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen came in having led the sec in sacks with
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Speaker 1: I think sixteen and a half his senior year at Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: So I think you've got to put it all into perspective.
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Speaker 1: This is the guy who's going to be on the
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Speaker 1: field a lot. He's gonna be making plays in both
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Speaker 1: phases of the game, so I think you're gonna see
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Speaker 1: great production from him. It might just not show in
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Speaker 1: the sack numbers. And by the way, that conversation with
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Speaker 1: Jaguars great Tony Brackens the other day, and he said
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Speaker 1: he judges defensive ends by how complete a player they are.
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Speaker 1: He said, it's easy when you're just rushing the passer
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Speaker 1: and you come off the field on first and second
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Speaker 1: down to judge the guys being a great player. But
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Speaker 1: when you have a guy who's on the field on first, second,
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Speaker 1: and third down and he's producing in the run as
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Speaker 1: well as rushing the passer, then you know you've got
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Speaker 1: a great player. The Jaguars are definitely gonna rely on
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Speaker 1: both of those guys on the defensive line, especially with
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Speaker 1: all the shifting we've been seeing all right, guys, let's
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Speaker 1: go to big Thing three. Cutdown day a little different
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Speaker 1: this year. We're gonna hear from a head coach, Doug
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Speaker 1: Brown coming up here at nine o'clock. And I know
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Speaker 1: the years I have been here. He always says, says
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Speaker 1: that Saturday, the day before the regular season, is a
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Speaker 1: really tough day for him to let these guys go.
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Speaker 1: The numbers are smaller now this year because they expanded
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Speaker 1: practice squad, Brian, but we still know it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a tough day for Doug. We're gonna get into some
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Speaker 1: roster math in the next segment. But Brian, your initial gut,
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Speaker 1: how is this year different now with that expanded practice squad. Well,
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Speaker 1: the expanded practice squad has obviously been put into place
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Speaker 1: for the COVID nineteen so that you have the ability
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Speaker 1: to take six veteran players. Before the practice squad was
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Speaker 1: about young guys, developmental guys. This year, it's about having
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Speaker 1: guys that were with you in camp, that know your
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Speaker 1: system in case you have a run and you get
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Speaker 1: a room of receivers or linebackers that get sick, and
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Speaker 1: being able to pull those guys up so that does
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Speaker 1: make it. I do want to say one thing about
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Speaker 1: about what Doug says every year. Um, this is a
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Speaker 1: game of human confrontation on the field, but it's about
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Speaker 1: human determination and human achievement off the field. You see
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Speaker 1: these guys in the classroom and the meeting room, walking
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Speaker 1: down the hall and the training room, you know, normal camp.
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Speaker 1: You travel with these guys, you get to know them,
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Speaker 1: and it's tough, no matter who it is or how
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Speaker 1: well that you do know them, to tell somebody that
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Speaker 1: you know your football career is going to have to
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Speaker 1: continue somewhere else or it might not continue at all.
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Speaker 1: It's the stories, and you know, we tell the stories
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Speaker 1: on a daily in a week kly basis. But but
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Speaker 1: Doug Moron and his coaching staff lived the stories and
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Speaker 1: so it's a very difficult time. It has to happen.
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Speaker 1: And then they go to on and get excited about football.
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Speaker 1: But it is a tough day for these guys, and
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Speaker 1: not just Doug. Every head coach that's ever been here,
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Speaker 1: every assistant coach has ever had to tell a player
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Speaker 1: you're not good enough. It's tough for them all. Well, Slenn,
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Speaker 1: it's difficult for every coach, but it's really difficult for Doug.
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Speaker 1: Doug lived that life. He was a He'd be the
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Speaker 1: first one to tell you he was a marginal NFL
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Speaker 1: player when he played, a guy trying to make it
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Speaker 1: in the league, trying to hold on, working to be
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Speaker 1: the fifty second guy on the roster. He got cut
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Speaker 1: multiple times. He knows what it is to hear, hey,
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Speaker 1: it's over. You've got to figure out something else to
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Speaker 1: do with your life. He knows how difficult that is.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't nobody likes telling people that, but he's lived it.
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Speaker 1: He knows the emotion. And when he talks on the
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Speaker 1: on that Monday about how tough the previous Saturday wise,
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Speaker 1: it's a heartfelt thing. It's difficult because he's been there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: definitely see a very genuine side of Doug Moron when
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Speaker 1: that happens. Definitely difficult for all coaches, but especially Doug Marrone.
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Speaker 1: And that is our big things when we come back,
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Speaker 1: This is what I said to everyone on the team,
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Speaker 1: put them on the field and see who the best
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Speaker 1: players are and what's going to be best for our team. Um.
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Speaker 1: So that's that's that's what I feel like. You know,
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Speaker 1: that was my goal and that's my responsibility, and that's
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Speaker 1: what I feel I'm doing one times more blind, one
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Speaker 1: times two head coach Doug marone giving everyone a fair
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Speaker 1: chance to make this team at the start of training camp,
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Speaker 1: and now we are here. We find out Sunday at
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Speaker 1: four o'clock who is going to make this final roster.
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Speaker 1: As we get into some roster math, breaking down some numbers,
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Speaker 1: who's gonna make the active roster, who's going to make
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Speaker 1: the practice squad? Going position by position on groups we
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Speaker 1: think have a lot of competition. So, Brian, you have
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Speaker 1: one of the most complicated ones this training camp because
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Speaker 1: of all the shifting we have seen on the defensive line. Well,
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Speaker 1: and I think that what you look at is versatility
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Speaker 1: and a guy like to want smooth and that really
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Speaker 1: helps you with your numbers. But normally you're going to
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Speaker 1: try to keep nine defensive alignment, and with the guy
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Speaker 1: like Smoot, who's big enough that you could put him
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Speaker 1: down in some pass rushing situations and let him play
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Speaker 1: that three technique, you know you could keep eight. So
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Speaker 1: we'll say the defensive tackles are going to be Tavin Brian,
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Speaker 1: Avery Jones, Davon Hamilton, and Timmy Jernegan, and then again
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Speaker 1: Smoot can kind of swing between those two positions. At
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Speaker 1: defensive end, it's a little tougher. You trade away in
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Speaker 1: dog way and you don't have Laurent and McCrae, who
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Speaker 1: was always an option for them in pass rushing situations.
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Speaker 1: So obviously Josh Allen and Caleb on Jason are one
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Speaker 1: and two, Smoot is three, and then Curtis marsh who
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Speaker 1: was a guy who has worked with the linebackers and
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Speaker 1: the defensive ends has passed rush ability, becomes that fourth
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Speaker 1: defensive end. Now they could go for the ninth, which
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Speaker 1: is something that they've tried to do around here. Most
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Speaker 1: of the time you need a rotation of big bodies
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Speaker 1: on that interior of the line to be able to
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Speaker 1: effectively stop the run, especially in this vision with a
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Speaker 1: guy like Derrick Henry coming downhill at you. Well, they
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Speaker 1: probably have to look for that fifth defensive tackle because
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Speaker 1: of the injuries and the opt out to the nutrition
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Speaker 1: at the position. They go find somebody on the waiver wire,
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Speaker 1: somebody maybe even if they're not completely sold, although I
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Speaker 1: think their first four set and they do. You have
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Speaker 1: to throw a draft pick in there somewhere, a late
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Speaker 1: round pick to find a guy. But I think they've
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Speaker 1: got a little versatility because of Smooth. I'm gonna say
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Speaker 1: they keep eight. All right, It's very well done. Brian
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Speaker 1: Sexton breaking down those numbers. John, do you agree? Do
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Speaker 1: you think they keep eight defensive lineman? Yeah? Dude. Um.
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Speaker 1: It's it's always so tough because, as Brian said, you're
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Speaker 1: looking at the bottom of the roster. You're trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out where a guy likes Smooth fits, and then
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Speaker 1: you're also playing numbers games elsewhere. It's it's particularly tough
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Speaker 1: this to figure out the bottom of the roster because,
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Speaker 1: as you've alluded to a couple of times, you've got
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Speaker 1: six teams who this year are going to play far
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Speaker 1: more as if they're actually part of the team then developmental.
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Speaker 1: So some of these guys who are very very marginal
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Speaker 1: that we all talk about, you're going to be talking
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Speaker 1: about them on on Saturday as if they're not on
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Speaker 1: the team, and then you're gonna see them in week
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Speaker 1: two and think, well, why were we even talking about
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Speaker 1: these guys? Is not on the roster? But I agree
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Speaker 1: they probably keep eight that's usually which keep his a rotation,
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Speaker 1: and then have a ninth guy coming up off the
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Speaker 1: practice squad when they feel like it's needed for matchups
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Speaker 1: that week. Alright, it's starting to make sense. John Osier cornerbacks,
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Speaker 1: what do you got? Yeah, it's this is a position
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Speaker 1: that if all you do is look at experience, it's
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Speaker 1: going to scare you because they're going to keep a
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Speaker 1: lot of youth on this. I went with obviously C. J.
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Speaker 1: Henderson and Trey Herndon the two starters. Hayden is the
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Speaker 1: is the nickel because I Scott the rookie. Uh, the
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Speaker 1: rookie plays behind Hayden at the nickel. I think, and
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're talking more youth. You're
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Speaker 1: talking Chris Claybrooks, you're talking Luke Barkoo, perhaps Tremaine Brock,
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Speaker 1: Perry Nickerson. I think they probably go with Brock over Nickerson,
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're keeping seven. But
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Speaker 1: but you know, again, I think you could see a
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Speaker 1: guy like brock uh As strange as it sounds, practice
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Speaker 1: squad this year has no age limit, no experience limit,
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Speaker 1: so some of these guys were talking about will be
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Speaker 1: on the practice squad as guys they are able to
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Speaker 1: bring up. And remember the fascint thing about the practice
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Speaker 1: squad this year. Unlike past years when you left those
18:44
Speaker 1: guys exposed, they can now protect for practice squad guys
18:49
Speaker 1: a week, so they really are part of your team,
18:53
Speaker 1: and we really are I think talking about for the
18:55
Speaker 1: most part, very little movement on the practice squad and
18:58
Speaker 1: having more of a six nine man roster, which again
19:03
Speaker 1: means you're gonna have huge numbers of these positions in reality. Yeah, Brian,
19:09
Speaker 1: I can't help but think a guy like Chris Claybrooks
19:11
Speaker 1: is really interesting to see what happens with him. Seventh
19:14
Speaker 1: round draft pick, but also getting some kick return reps
19:16
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me, Brian, if you call the Jadon
19:19
Speaker 1: mckins story and training camp a couple of years ago.
19:22
Speaker 1: Will he make this team? I think that's a guy
19:24
Speaker 1: some people have their eyes on. Well. I pick he
19:27
Speaker 1: absolutely makes the team. I don't think you take a
19:29
Speaker 1: guy as a kick returner and that's what they drafted
19:32
Speaker 1: him as without knowing that he was going to be
19:36
Speaker 1: capable of making your squad. So you have to keep
19:39
Speaker 1: a spot for him, which is probably why, just doing
19:42
Speaker 1: the math, why you have eight defensive lineman so you
19:45
Speaker 1: can keep that fifth cornerback. Remember, they don't have a
19:48
Speaker 1: lot of versatility between safety and corner. The safeties are safeties.
19:51
Speaker 1: The corners or corners on this football team. There are
19:54
Speaker 1: not players that could swing and play this or that.
19:57
Speaker 1: Clay Brooks is going to make the team because he
19:59
Speaker 1: is their best turner. He's the guy they designated when
20:02
Speaker 1: they drafted him, so he's gonna be there. I'm with John,
20:05
Speaker 1: I think that this is going to be stacked on
20:07
Speaker 1: the practice squad. Bark, Who's an interesting guy. You want
20:12
Speaker 1: to make sure you've got him here. You're going to
20:15
Speaker 1: have to have a lot of these young corners around
20:18
Speaker 1: UH in the league where coverage is paramount, you can't
20:21
Speaker 1: have enough of it absolutely. And now finally we are
20:25
Speaker 1: looking at wide receiver. The Jaguars keep six receivers, which
20:29
Speaker 1: would be the norm. They're going to have to cut
20:31
Speaker 1: a good player. I'm looking at Terry Godwin here has
20:33
Speaker 1: been definitely impressive. Put in a reverse Terry. Of course,
20:36
Speaker 1: we've seen it on touchdowns. Josh Hammon has shown up
20:40
Speaker 1: at times during camp. You would think maybe there's a
20:43
Speaker 1: role with one of these guys being on that practice squad.
20:45
Speaker 1: We've talked about maybe even that reserve spot in the
20:47
Speaker 1: four spots. With how deep the wide receiver room is.
20:51
Speaker 1: With Chart and Connolly and Cole Colin Johnson, I think
20:54
Speaker 1: we all agree that he probably most likely will make
20:56
Speaker 1: the team. That argument for one of those four spots
20:59
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. You could definitely make the argument
21:02
Speaker 1: that has to go to another position group, but isn't
21:04
Speaker 1: as deep because John Brian, I think this wide receiver
21:08
Speaker 1: room is as deep as we've seen it in a
21:09
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, it's definitely deep. Uh. I was looking
21:15
Speaker 1: last night trying to figure out, you know, you would
21:19
Speaker 1: think they keep six, if they keep five, which one
21:23
Speaker 1: of those guys go. I don't think it's Colin Johnson.
21:26
Speaker 1: I think it's any of the rookies. So I think
21:29
Speaker 1: Colin Johnson has really forced them to keep six because
21:32
Speaker 1: I can't imagine you would let experienced guys like Westbrook,
21:35
Speaker 1: Conny Cole that group go. So uh, I would think
21:39
Speaker 1: Terry god Went out of that group has looked very good,
21:42
Speaker 1: maybe odd man out, and if you can get him
21:46
Speaker 1: through to practice squad, which most people think most guys
21:51
Speaker 1: are going to get through this year, then I think
21:53
Speaker 1: you would see him be a guy they're very comfortable with.
21:57
Speaker 1: If one of these six gets hurt, they won't mind
21:59
Speaker 1: bringing god Went up at all. You know. I think
22:03
Speaker 1: it's it's worth noting that D. D. Westbrook missed a
22:05
Speaker 1: good portion of camp with that shoulder and was a
22:09
Speaker 1: guy who struggled with injuries last year. So you're gonna
22:12
Speaker 1: one Terry Godwin just in case Westbrook has a recurring
22:16
Speaker 1: issue with this shoulder. He plays in this lot he
22:19
Speaker 1: gets jostled around in the middle of the field, that
22:22
Speaker 1: shoulder could be an issue that lingers for a while.
22:25
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna want to be naked, so to speak,
22:27
Speaker 1: on the practice squad without a guy like Godwin definitely
22:31
Speaker 1: a good point. D D. Westbrook making his return to
22:33
Speaker 1: practice just yesterday after dealing with that shoulder injury. And
22:36
Speaker 1: that is our roster, Matt doing our best to attempt
22:39
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22:42
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Speaker 1: you got for any thoughts as to why we haven't
25:02
Speaker 1: heard from Jaguars general manager David Foggo regarding release of
25:06
Speaker 1: Leonard for Nets. It seems odd to me, John, I mean,
25:09
Speaker 1: haven't heard froman with everything going on this week. Yeah,
25:14
Speaker 1: I included this question because I wanted to clear something up.
25:17
Speaker 1: Every time there's a release or a player something like this,
25:23
Speaker 1: I get a load of emails. Sound why doesn't talk
25:27
Speaker 1: about it? Why doesn't Dave call it? Talk about it? Well?
25:30
Speaker 1: Most in the league, especially when the regular season presecent start,
25:34
Speaker 1: don't talk after every transaction. I assume that Dave Caldwell
25:38
Speaker 1: will address in some capacity when they cut to fifty three.
25:42
Speaker 1: He'll be asked about it then. But this is not
25:45
Speaker 1: an unusual thing. Now. At some point during seasons or
25:50
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, general managers usually talk.
25:53
Speaker 1: But it's not a very unusual thing for to be
25:58
Speaker 1: more in the back during a regular season. They usually
26:01
Speaker 1: talk more around the draft. Maybe once during training camp
26:04
Speaker 1: with David Caldwell did so. I haven't seen that much
26:07
Speaker 1: unusual on that front. Bryant well, and it's worth noting
26:11
Speaker 1: that Davis scheduled to talk on Saturday after the roster
26:16
Speaker 1: is finalized, so he'll be able to talk about it. Then.
26:19
Speaker 1: I guess I would say this, You're going to hear
26:21
Speaker 1: the same thing from Dave that you heard from Doug.
26:24
Speaker 1: I mean, a general manager and a coach have to
26:26
Speaker 1: be in lock step on a move like this one
26:29
Speaker 1: is it going to do it from the other, separate
26:32
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26:34
Speaker 1: thing from Dave. I would suspect that you heard from
26:37
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26:41
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26:43
Speaker 1: about the salary cap ramifications, um, But I wouldn't expect
26:48
Speaker 1: that Dave is going to shed any incredible light on it. Now.
26:52
Speaker 1: Maybe the reader, the writer of that email, you know,
26:56
Speaker 1: wants the media to grill him, um, which I doubt
27:01
Speaker 1: they'll do. But the message is what the messages and
27:05
Speaker 1: and that's that's what they're saying about it. I know
27:08
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people, you know, who are chapped
27:10
Speaker 1: about it today because he ended up over on the
27:11
Speaker 1: Buccaneers roster and there how in the world could we
27:14
Speaker 1: let a player go that they want. But Jaguars said
27:17
Speaker 1: what their reasons were on Monday. You're gonna hear the
27:18
Speaker 1: same thing, I think from Dave on Saturday. Well, he
27:21
Speaker 1: was going to end somewhere, sure, but you understand why
27:26
Speaker 1: they don't think he's good enough to play for the
27:29
Speaker 1: Buccaneers and maybe win a championship. But he's not good
27:32
Speaker 1: enough to play for the Jaguars, Which is the question
27:34
Speaker 1: that's probably going to be asked on Saturday Again. I
27:37
Speaker 1: think the answer is pretty much the same Jaguars decided
27:39
Speaker 1: would fit best for them, all about offensive systems and
27:44
Speaker 1: where he fits. All right, let's go all the way
27:46
Speaker 1: to England. Liam. Hey, don't is it time to start
27:50
Speaker 1: spending some of our draft capital this year, especially on
27:53
Speaker 1: the defensive line, to make this a win out team. Yeah.
27:58
Speaker 1: I don't expect this to happen, and I'm not sure
28:01
Speaker 1: you could argue that it's a It's a very good
28:03
Speaker 1: move if you did. Only because of this this close
28:07
Speaker 1: to the season, most teams are not going to be
28:11
Speaker 1: wanting to part with good defensive lineman even for your
28:15
Speaker 1: draft capital, so you're probably would be overpaying for older
28:20
Speaker 1: players if you went that route. Uh At every fiber
28:26
Speaker 1: of me looks at the draft capital that they have
28:31
Speaker 1: acquired and think that they want to use that in
28:34
Speaker 1: the draft. They want to continue getting younger. They want
28:37
Speaker 1: to continue what they did last offseason, which was bringing
28:40
Speaker 1: twelve guys from very good draft class. I maybe a
28:44
Speaker 1: late round, seventh round flyer, but I don't think they're
28:47
Speaker 1: going to use any of their good draft capital to
28:50
Speaker 1: go get veterans. That would be counter to what they've
28:52
Speaker 1: been doing so far. The release of Leondar for Nette
28:57
Speaker 1: tells you that this team is not in win now mode.
29:01
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29:04
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