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Kentucky Moms' Bahama 'GIRLS TRIP,' RAPED & SODOMIZED BY STAFF, BLEED, VOMIT, Tell Their Story · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greace, raped, assaulted, bloody. One of
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  Speaker 1: the swimsuit twisted around so much the victim's breasts were
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  Speaker 1: hanging out. That's the rape. Nurses words, not mine. On
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  Speaker 1: the floor of an office far far away from home,
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  Speaker 1: two ladies, beautiful ladies, moms from Kentucky, childhood friends, they
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  Speaker 1: met at four H Camp, lifelong friends. They go. It
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  Speaker 1: was one of their first girls trip ever away from
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  Speaker 1: their children, their first cruise, the first time one of
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  Speaker 1: them had ever been on a plane. Can you identify
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  Speaker 1: that because I identify with that? Because I can. They
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  Speaker 1: go on a carnival cruise, and yeah, I'm putting it
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  Speaker 1: out there. It's Carnival. And you know that there are
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  Speaker 1: port adventures, right. I love taking the twins on Disney
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  Speaker 1: cruises and going on port adventures. It's the best part
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  Speaker 1: of the cruise. These two ladies go on a port adventure.
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  Speaker 1: They are drugged and raped in the Bahamas and everybody
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  Speaker 1: acts like nothing happened. Something did happen. I want justice
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  Speaker 1: in joining me today the two ladies from Kentucky that
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  Speaker 1: go on their girls trip and come home bruised, leading
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  Speaker 1: and raped. I Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us here at crime Stories and
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  Speaker 1: on Serious XM one eleven. I don't know why even
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  Speaker 1: the law did this. For years, in years, decades, the
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  Speaker 1: law required corroboration for a rape case to go forward.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't rely on just the women's account. Why you don't
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  Speaker 1: need corroboration for a bank robbery or an agassault or
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  Speaker 1: a murder? Right? But why rape? Why are rape victims doubted?
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  Speaker 1: But they are? There was an angel. It was a
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  Speaker 1: rape nurse who was there on vacation. I want you
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  Speaker 1: to hear what a completely impartial observer had to say
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  Speaker 1: was she tried to help these two ladies. This is
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  Speaker 1: what she told me last night.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, don Gayla, which was the one in the floor
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  Speaker 2: closes to the door. She was in a one piece
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  Speaker 2: bathing suit, but it actually appeared to look more like
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  Speaker 2: a two piece bathing suit because it's one of those
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  Speaker 2: one pieces that are cut out. Her clothes were very
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  Speaker 2: messed at. Her breast was hanging out, she was not covered.
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  Speaker 2: She was coming in and out of consciousness, puking, crying, screaming.
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  Speaker 2: She looked in a very bad shape. I absolutely knew
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  Speaker 2: that they had been assaulted in some form of fashion,
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  Speaker 2: by the way that they looked, the way they appeared
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 1: This is Lodonna Batty, very very experienced nurse practitioner who
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  Speaker 1: happened to be on this trip and was called in
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  Speaker 1: to help the two ladies from Kentucky. Did you hear
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  Speaker 1: what she said? She doesn't have a dog in the fight,
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  Speaker 1: no skin of the game, and she describes them. Can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine your mother on the floor of some office
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  Speaker 1: in the Bahamas, all bloody and messed up, vomiting in
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  Speaker 1: the floor, with the swimsuit exposing their private parts. Yet
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  Speaker 1: apparently officials there didn't believe them. Listen to more of
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  Speaker 1: what the nurse practitioner told us last night.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to get her to focus on me
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  Speaker 2: and stay with me. So I was asking her questions,
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  Speaker 2: what her name was, how old she was, give me
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  Speaker 2: your birthday, where are you from? In and out? And
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  Speaker 2: then she would repeat herself, and then she would scream
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  Speaker 2: out that she had been raped, she'd been assaulted, you know,
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  Speaker 2: please help me, Please help me, don't leave me, please
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  Speaker 2: help me, you know, those kind of things. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep her calm down, trying to get her
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  Speaker 2: to focus to give me some details.
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  Speaker 1: This is really bringing me flashbacks of all the rape
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  Speaker 1: victims that I have dealt with over the years of
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  Speaker 1: investigating and prosecuting rapists. As I mentioned earlier, very often
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  Speaker 1: the law will require and some jurisdictions steal corroboration to
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  Speaker 1: the woman's account. Well there's corroboration. They were bruised and bleeding,
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  Speaker 1: according to this witness.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, yes, kneecaps, their knees, and their shins looked the worst.
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  Speaker 2: There was bruises on their knees, down their little sins,
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  Speaker 2: you know, little scrapes and abrasions own both of their
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  Speaker 2: knees and stuff like that. I was doing my best
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  Speaker 2: best to try to assess them. I just felt like
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  Speaker 2: this was going to be a bad situation that wasn't
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  Speaker 2: going to be taking care of property.
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  Speaker 1: Now, that's from an experienced nurse practitioner. Joining me right
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  Speaker 1: now are the two Kentucky ladies to whom I've been referring,
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  Speaker 1: Amber Sharer and in Dongela Dobson Lifelong for instance. For
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  Speaker 1: h Camp ladies, thank you for being with.
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  Speaker 3: Us, thank you for having us for sure, for sharing
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  Speaker 3: our story.
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  Speaker 4: For believing that the gay I do in this culture, nobody,
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  Speaker 4: nobody seems to believe when you say something like that
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  Speaker 4: happens to thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe you, and I want justice
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  Speaker 1: for you because I know right now your heads are spending.
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  Speaker 1: But in the years to come, you're going to look
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  Speaker 1: back and you're going to want to know that the
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  Speaker 1: rapists are in jail, and not only that they are
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  Speaker 1: being punished, but that other women like you are not
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  Speaker 1: being raped in vomiting with your breast exposed on some
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  Speaker 1: floor of some office in the Bahamas, Because really, you
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  Speaker 1: really think this was their first time doing this. No way,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Their first time, because when they came in the office
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  Speaker 5: and we were forced to identifide them, and they walked
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  Speaker 5: in as if nothing was wrong, and we fly freaked out,
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  Speaker 5: they screaming, asking them, begging them to get up out,
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  Speaker 5: and they just they acted like nothing is wrong, as
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  Speaker 5: if they've done anything.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, think about what you're saying. Amber If
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  Speaker 1: you were charged with felony and you were brought in
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  Speaker 1: and somebody said, oh, yeah, she's the one that shot me,
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  Speaker 1: you'd freak out right. These guys were like mmm, They.
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  Speaker 5: Even smiled when they came in the.
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  Speaker 3: Room they did.
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  Speaker 1: Let me start at the beginning, because there are so
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  Speaker 1: many advisories. Don't travel to uh Syria. Let's don't go
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  Speaker 1: to Syria. Okay, let's don't go to Gaza. Just just
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  Speaker 1: right now. Let's don't travel to Kazakhstan. Why let's still
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  Speaker 1: go to Iran. There are reasons that there are US
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  Speaker 1: Department of Justice advisories not to go to certain parts
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  Speaker 1: of the world, and there is an alert regarding the Bahamas.
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  Speaker 1: I know everybody goes to the Bahamas for reasons, just
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  Speaker 1: like this. Let me start at the beginning. I'm putting
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  Speaker 1: the cart before the horse. With me are two beautiful ladies.
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  Speaker 1: They're beautiful, not on the outside only, but on the
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  Speaker 1: inside too, and I want you to get to know
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  Speaker 1: them and hear their story. Doug Gela Dobson, How did
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing start?
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  Speaker 4: The beginning of our vacation was an absolute dream come true.
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  Speaker 4: It was something we couldn't even begin to imagine. The
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  Speaker 4: waters were crystal clear. We were having the best time
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  Speaker 4: of our lives. We were checking them on and our kids,
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  Speaker 4: but at the same time we weren't fully responsible for them.
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  Speaker 4: For just a few days. It was great we went
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  Speaker 4: and we did a dolphin excursion where we got hugs
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  Speaker 4: the dolphins and they gave us a kiss and we
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  Speaker 4: got pictures plug them and we played. We hung out
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  Speaker 4: on the beach there. This was in Nassall the last day,
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  Speaker 4: day four, we were supposed to stop in Freeport. So
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  Speaker 4: when we stopped in Freeport, we are assuming that we
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  Speaker 4: are safe, like we tell them we want to go
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  Speaker 4: to the beach. Carnival step as well as all kinds
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  Speaker 4: of like people at the dock, like staff members at
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  Speaker 4: the docks, and they were telling us that, okay, if
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  Speaker 4: you want to go to the beach, this is the
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  Speaker 4: table you need to go to.
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  Speaker 3: There's a pirate's code, and there were pamphlets on the
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  Speaker 3: Carnival proofs for pirate cove.
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  Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace. You're hearing don Gela Dobson
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  Speaker 1: and Amber Shearer. These are the two Kentucky ladies that
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  Speaker 1: were brutally assaulted on a Carnival cruise land excursion. So
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  Speaker 1: you're telling me that, first of all, which one of
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  Speaker 1: the Carnival cruise ships. Was it Carnival Elation, right, Carnival Elation.
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  Speaker 1: That's a huge ship, and was this you're saying that
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  Speaker 1: there were pamphlets on the elation about where you went.
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  Speaker 1: It was Pirate's code. Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a whole guest services desk to as pamphlets
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  Speaker 4: and excursions and things that you can do while you're
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  Speaker 4: down there. And then when you get off the boat
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  Speaker 4: you've cruised before, you know, they have all the little
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  Speaker 4: tables and all the little lines, and you just sell
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  Speaker 4: them where you're trying to go, and they point you
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  Speaker 4: to the line and you're on this shuttle with other
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  Speaker 4: people from your boat that want to go to the
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  Speaker 4: same place exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And I've always felt so safe doing that. With David
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  Speaker 1: and the twins, We've been to a coffee plantation, and
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  Speaker 1: an orange plantation, and a monkey with reserve, just all
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  Speaker 1: sorts of land. They call them port adventures. Port adventures.
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  Speaker 1: So you found out about this Pirate's cove. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: photos of it where there's like a tiki bar, there's
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  Speaker 1: a zip line, there's a beautiful beach. Really looks fun.
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  Speaker 1: And so you get on I guess a bus.
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  Speaker 3: It was that bus taxi and it.
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  Speaker 1: Takes you to Freeport.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we were already in Freeport. It took us from
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  Speaker 4: where we docked in Freeport to the beach. It was
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  Speaker 4: like maybe a fifteen twenty minute ride to pirates Cove.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, then what happened?
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  Speaker 3: So we paid our taxi fees and we paid to
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  Speaker 3: get into Pirate's Cove and then immediately John Gala and
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  Speaker 3: I just kind of went off to the left. We
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  Speaker 3: were away from everybody. We wanted to take, you know,
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  Speaker 3: qute pictures. We're on vacation. We were both gastric sleeve patients.
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  Speaker 3: We've reached our goal weights. We wanted to look sexy
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  Speaker 3: for our boyfriends, for our husband. We you know, we
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  Speaker 3: we wanted to feel like sexy women.
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  Speaker 4: I just lost this is on Gala. I just lost
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty five pounds. I'll just met my goal.
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  Speaker 3: The week Beport we.
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  Speaker 1: Went wait is this Doug Gala?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You lost one hundred and thirty five pounds. Holy moly, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I got to write that down on my fact sheet.
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  Speaker 1: You need to celebrate woman and this was that? Have
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  Speaker 1: you got? Is is it Ambers? Is this Whose first
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  Speaker 1: girl's trip? Is this?
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  Speaker 3: It was not Amber? This is me. It was my
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  Speaker 3: first girl's trip. And I'm actually the one who encouraged
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  Speaker 3: on Gala to get the gastricsleave because I started I
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  Speaker 3: was working in the operating room and doctor Tran, a
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  Speaker 3: wonderful friend of mine, did my gastric sleeve. I started
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  Speaker 3: out at four hundred pounds and I now weigh one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty pounds.
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  Speaker 6: And Nancy, this is Nick Gershon And one thing I
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  Speaker 6: want to add or comment.
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  Speaker 1: Guys you're hearing, Nicholas Gerson is a high profile lawyer
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  Speaker 1: for these ladies, practicing out of Miami, and you can
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  Speaker 1: find him an injury attorney FLA for Florida dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Nicholas sure.
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  Speaker 6: I just wanted to add to what my clients were
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  Speaker 6: telling you about how they learned about.
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  Speaker 7: This excursion in the first place.
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  Speaker 6: And not only did they learn about it.
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  Speaker 7: On Carnival shit.
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  Speaker 6: Not only were they taken away on a shuttle at
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  Speaker 6: the pier, not only were they not only did they
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  Speaker 6: see the pamphlets, but Carnival actually markets this specific excursion
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  Speaker 6: on their website. They published it and you can purchase
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  Speaker 6: it on their website. There were even reviews about the
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  Speaker 6: excursion on Carnival's website. So any suggestion that these these
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  Speaker 6: women my clients just into as Carnival stated and a
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  Speaker 6: statement independently went on an excursion as if they just
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  Speaker 6: kick this excursion out of a hat is not well taken.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Nicholas, I hear you. Every time I've taken the
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  Speaker 1: twins on Disney cruises. By the way, they're sixteen, I
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  Speaker 1: still haven't had a girls trip. FYI that said Nicholas.
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  Speaker 1: Every time I've taken them on a Disney cruise, I
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  Speaker 1: go online, just like you're saying. I can see Amber
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  Speaker 1: and on Giela doing this because you're looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: the trip. You know, it's kind of like a mill
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  Speaker 1: escape from all the work and everything you do every day.
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  Speaker 1: And so you look at what you're planning your trip,
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  Speaker 1: and they have these beautiful excursions port adventures, and they
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  Speaker 1: encourage you to book them online ahead of time so
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  Speaker 1: you're not shut out of it because they're very sought after.
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  Speaker 1: So this was an official trip offered by Carnival Cruise.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of their port adventures that they advertise
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  Speaker 1: for you on which you can go. So I think
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  Speaker 1: was talking to Don Giella Amber. What happens is that
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  Speaker 1: you guys get there, you've lost all this amazing weight.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing and you want to take pictures of you
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  Speaker 1: at the beach in your swimsuits, and then what happens.
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  Speaker 3: We were taking these photos and then we decided to
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  Speaker 3: change bathing suits. So the bathing suits that you've seen
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  Speaker 3: that we were raped in, the black bathing suit Don
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  Speaker 3: Gaelo was in the orange one that I was in.
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  Speaker 3: Those were shooting bathing suits I got for my bourgeoiirs
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  Speaker 3: shoot for my thirtieth birthday for reaching my goal weight.
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  Speaker 3: So we thought we wanted really sexy bathing suits to
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  Speaker 3: send back home like pictures, you know, in the Caribbean,
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  Speaker 3: like Valentine's Day, my home, Like we were gonna put
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  Speaker 3: these up, these were going to be like, right, what
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  Speaker 3: did you say?
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  Speaker 4: I Love said, I really wanted these for Valentine's Day
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  Speaker 4: for my husband. But now I can't even bear to
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  Speaker 4: look at them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, Okay, I'm just having a moment here.
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  Speaker 1: Let me bring in a shrinks Sadie Whitelocks. I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: to We have an incredible travel editor for d email
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  Speaker 1: dot com who had her own personal experience of danger
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  Speaker 1: in the Bahamas. Scott Johnson, forensics psychologist, joining US out
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  Speaker 1: of Minnesota thirty two years dealing with sex predators and
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  Speaker 1: their victims. Scott, I don't know if you can relate
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  Speaker 1: to this, but if you can't, you need to get
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  Speaker 1: plugged into this.
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  Speaker 4: You get.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have hair make up before I go
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  Speaker 1: on camera, and you get all fixed up, and what
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  Speaker 1: you think? You know, Hey, this is as good as
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna get. And you take the photo. Right, that's
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  Speaker 1: very important to ladies. You know that they look good
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  Speaker 1: in those pictures because you want to. I like showing
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  Speaker 1: pictures to my twins, right, and just thinking of these
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  Speaker 1: two ladies. They lose all this weight and they get
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  Speaker 1: to the Bahamas and then they want to put on
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  Speaker 1: the perfect swimsuit, the orange and the black for the photo,
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  Speaker 1: and this happens. Did you hear her say she can't
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  Speaker 1: even look at the picture anymore? And did you hear
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  Speaker 1: what she said? Hers was orange and mine was black?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I remember right now? I remember what
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  Speaker 1: I wore to my fiance's funeral. I've never worned again.
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  Speaker 1: I can't stand to even look at it, but yet
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  Speaker 1: I can't throw it away. They remember I had on
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  Speaker 1: the orange when she had on the black one. HOWE
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  Speaker 1: are those things? Those details stick in your head? At
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  Speaker 1: a moment when you get raped, but you remember that detail.
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  Speaker 3: It's the nious details that we remember.
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  Speaker 1: What is that, Scott Johnson, what is that phenomena?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it just gets etched in your brain. It's
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  Speaker 8: a very very important memory and it just is etched
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  Speaker 8: in the brain.
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  Speaker 1: You can't not think of it.
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  Speaker 8: And even you know, though you'd like to sometimes forget,
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  Speaker 8: forget it, it's it's there in live, vivid color, and
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  Speaker 8: it's simply a part of part of the brain that
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  Speaker 8: it's going to stay.
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  Speaker 1: Alive forever, forever. I wish I could forget some of
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  Speaker 1: those details here. Yeah, please jump in.
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  Speaker 4: So I just when I say like it, I think
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  Speaker 4: more time around Amber's rapist because he was the resort
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  Speaker 4: work or you come of pox this into everything and
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  Speaker 4: to get out only remember the face of my rapist. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but I barely seem drugged.
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  Speaker 3: I was able to identify both rapists.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about rape victims making identifications and
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  Speaker 1: drawing composites, you are also seeing them at a different angle.
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  Speaker 1: I was just talking to a sketch artists about this
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and another rape that turned into a murder where
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  Speaker 1: the victim is very often looking up at the rapist
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  Speaker 1: and it distorts the way their face really is because
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  Speaker 1: of your angle. And I'm just very grateful that there
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  Speaker 1: were two of you together to make an accurate id.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see where what they're going to do about it
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  Speaker 1: down the problems. Brace yourself, I doubt very much. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you're taking the pictures. Let me get back to
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  Speaker 1: the beach. You're taking the cute photos. God bless you.
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  Speaker 1: Losing one hundred and thirty five pounds. Yes, So then
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  Speaker 1: what happened?
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  Speaker 3: We were taking these photos we had so we had
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  Speaker 3: our phones out, we were taking photos, and we noticed
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  Speaker 3: one of the resort workers was avidly staring at us,
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  Speaker 3: and we were like, okay, well we're getting attention because
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  Speaker 3: we're wearing these sexy bathing suits. That's you know, we've
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  Speaker 3: been wearing cheeky suits the whole time we were out
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  Speaker 3: because it was our mom cation.
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  Speaker 4: We looked that it's the first time we've ever felt it's.
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  Speaker 3: The sometime whereever felt sexy or confident in our own body.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean you keep saying sexy swimsuits like you
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  Speaker 1: were doing something wrong. I mean you had all your
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  Speaker 1: body parts covered up the other day, my daughter said, Mom,
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  Speaker 1: is this dressed to short? I'm like, no, there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: wrong with wearing. I mean, I hear this in every
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  Speaker 1: rate case. Why was she out jogging in a sports bra?
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  Speaker 1: Why did she have on short a short skirt that
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing. Yes, you had on sexy swimsuits.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It doesn't. This is not your fault.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: They hate comments we get often say well, if they
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: look that good, we would rape them too, We would
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: get them like savage animals. Those are the things that
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: people are saying that over that we were action for.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, you got to quit looking at
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: social media. If I read everything on Twitter, I would
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: be hiding under the bed right now. True, some of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it is completely accurate.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: But on social media, I mean, it's not just on
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: our feed, it's people private messaging us, right.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: And there's people out there that, you know, the power
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: assertive rapists, who are these two rapists believe that they
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: have a prerogative to do what they do and that
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: the victims and they're in the sick perverted way that
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: the defenders thinking the victims provoked or asked for this,
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: and yet there's no truth to that. And yet you've
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: got a whole society who want to continue to blame
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: the men who do this and blame the victim, who
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: if you personalize it, if it's your wife, your family member,
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: your daughter, that's a victim. You certainly see what we're
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: saying here about how long it is. But if if
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: you're not relating to it, you continue to defend the
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: rapists for their justification for how they felt they were
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: needing to or had the right to do a rape.
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: Everybody has a right to look good. We all have
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: a right to show off our bodies when we work
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: damn hard to get them to a place we want them.
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: But that's not asking for a damn thing. But the
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: rapist believes this is a provocation, this is justification, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: there'll always be the sick bastards out there who support
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: that site Dog.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Guil and Amber. So you're out there taking photos, what
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: happens then?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: So next we.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Were approached by a resort worker who actually ended up
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: being Ambers rapist.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: How did you know they were a resort worker.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: They were wearing resort.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Cloathing the uniform and this.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Was pirate's cove, correct.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they all had green T shirt polos on those.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: One of the pictures that I took of my rapist
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: when we thought he was just a friendly staff member.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It looks different because I use a tan filter on Snapchat,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: but it's actually a bright green shirt. So the man
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: approached us and asked us to do promotional photos because
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: we would make great promotional photos for Pirate's Code.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: We were like, no, it was some new something that
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: they was doing, some thirty six y We politely declined.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: We were like, no, that's okay, maybe later, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: just pushed him off. But the same worker just continues
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: to hang around and he's chatting, and we think he's
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: kind of, you know, like concierge, making sure we're having
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: a good time, making sure that we don't need anything.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: He offered to take one of the pictures of us.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: He took a couple of pictures of us in the water,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and then his friend comes up and offers us a
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: drink and she's like okay, so this drink is like
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: thirty dollars and we're like, oh, yeah, no thanks, we're.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Not drinkers anyway, we're drink.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And then she's like, i'll give you a drink or
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: twenty dollars, and we're still like yeah, I think. So
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: She's like to tell you this, buy one and give
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: one free, and we were like, okay, you got it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: It'll make a cute picture. We're here for a few hours,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: and so.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: You take the pictures holding the drinks up right, let
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: me guess, yes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I had a coconut, don Gela had a pineapple.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: The friend that came up with the drinks wasn't a
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: man or a woman.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: It was a woman. And she later messaged out to
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: me telling me that we hurt her business. I won't
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: say her name publicly, I don't know if I'm allowed to.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: But she reached out to us both telling us that
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: we needed to take our postil and we were.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Hurting her business and hurting her coconut pineapple drink business?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Did she work at Pirate's Cove? Also?
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah she did?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Nicholas gersh and you better be coconut a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: big fat lawsuit right now. Back to the ladies. So
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: she's obviously working with the man. Then what happened? So
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you're out in the water. One's got a pineapple, one's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: got a coconut. You're taking the cute pictures. Did you
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: say you live chatted with your family.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Let's back up before we finish. I would like to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: explain that these drinks were brought to us before we
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: even agreed to.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Her ide of them. That's all they did on carnivals,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: so we thought it was normal.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Joining me is Sadie white Locks, assistant travel editor dailymail
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: dot com, who had her own brush with danger in
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the Bahamas. You can find her at Sadie whitelockx dot com. Sadie,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. Is that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: normal because I've never Maybe it's because I'm on a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Disney cruise. I've never had people walk up and try
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to give me hard liquor already in the coconut and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the pineapple.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: Sometimes they'll be if it's like a from cups, Like
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: they'll bring them the cups.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, Like they'll show you the cup and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: it'll say I was at the Muhama Pirate cover something
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and then you say, y'all have it, and they bring
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you back the drink. I've never heard of them pushing alcohol.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, what if it's a person that can't have
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: alcohol or for whatever reason exactly, So that's unusual, Sadie
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: white Locks.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: They didn't really push it. They would ask if you
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: want to buy it, but it was already in those
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: pre made carnival cups you're talking about. They had it
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: togad there. We had to show them more id but
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: they came around the polar area as soon as we
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: got on, and it could have been a lot because
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the bars and stuff were not yet open, because the
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: sweet rooms weren't ready. I just remember Amber and I
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: both paid thirty three dollars apiece for these drinks, discussing
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: that we poured down the sink just so we could
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: keep the cup.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: So then what happens. You get the drinks, Then what happens.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: So we get the.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Drinks, the pineapple drink and the coconut drink at Pirate's Cove.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Right, So this is Amber. So we get the drinks
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and we're taking pictures with the drinks. We take a
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: picture with who later becomes my rapist, and then we
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: decide to get on Facebook Live. Yeah, so we're in
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: the Caribbean. We're on Facebook Live. We're stumbling around like
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: we're showing everybody, and you know, like we said, just
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: twenty minutes prior we were, we had just talked to
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: our family and friends. We had just facetimed our kids
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: through Facebook Messenger.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think this is only a four day cruise, right, Yeah?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Well you know you think what can go wrong in
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: four days?
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Five days, four nights, gotcha. We were on.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: My Facebook Live and Don Gaela and I were in
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the ocean and we were She like fell in the
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: water and I was like, oh my gosh, she's had
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: she's had one too many.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: You know, but you only had one.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: But we had only had one.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: But as gash sleet patients, when Wednesday we've had a
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: drink to many, we've literally.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Mean at a drink.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Too many, not a beverage.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what you're what
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you what you mean by that?
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Like literally, when we say a drink too many, we
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: mean one drink, like we have to gotch it, We
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: have to sit, we can't hug, we have to drink
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: very slowly. When you say you've overeaten, we say a
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: bite too many, because it's literally one bitees the difference
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: between being okay and vomiting.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, now I understand. So these this drink
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: really affected you?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, so essentially gastric sleeve is part of what saved
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: our lives because we had to volmit so much.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: And my Sonach only holds a cup right now.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And even so, even with the gasic sleeve surgery, you
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: still had enough in you to completely black out. Yes,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that must have been a very very powerful drink.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, so let's go back to that drink.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, let's do it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Turns out drinks, We'll just say they contained very little,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: if any alcohol. That's and I'll leave it at that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: There must have been something very powerful in those drinks.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Do you believe Amber and on Gala that the drugs
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: were in the drink?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Most certainly. That's the only thing that we had to
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: eat or drink the whole entire day. It's the only
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: besides the coffee that we got before we left it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, I felt fine.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I agree. We had a coffee. We were fine, we took.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: A video, we were fine.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: We were fine until we had those drinks. Within minutes of.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Drinking, probably fifteen twenty minute those.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Drinks, we were suddenly in the ocean on Facebook live,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: and our family and friends were messaging.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Us and calling us like, are you sure you're okay?
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Are you sure you're house drinks. If you really had
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: like there's there's no way, let me.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Go to your lawyer, a high profile lawyer out of Miami,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Nicholas Gerson, injury Attorney, Florida FLA dot Com Nicholas. What
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: they're saying can easily be verified with receipts on those
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: cruise ships. They know what you charge to your room,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: they know what buffet you went to. They know everything
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: because it's all computerized. When you get a drink or
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: anything at those resorts, there is a digital record of everything.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: So if they had coffee before they went to Pirate's Cove,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a Carnival sponsored port adventure, and they get there and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: all they have a drink, there's evidence of that if
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: it's not destroyed. Nicholas.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: That's correct.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Typically on a cruise ship, you're given something called the
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: sailing sign card, which is used to document everything that
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: you purpose purchase on a cruise ship. In this particular scenario,
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: I don't believe that the sailing sign card would have
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: any information as to what.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: Was used at the resort. But what we do know.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: From our preliminary investigation is that there was a toxicology
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: investigation conducted. There was a year analysis taken, there was
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: blood obtained, and we've actually asked for that information from Carnival.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: We've asked Carnival to provide us with the lab work,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: with the reports, and the response that we've received essentially
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: is none. They told us via letter just the other
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: day that they received our preservation of evidence letter, which
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: is a letter that we typically sent out in any
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: sort of cruise ship incident, especially involving rape or sexual assault,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: and we've asked them to not only preserve whatever evidence
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: they have, but to provide us with copies of the
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: records that they possess for our clients. They're not entitled
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: to just withhold the information, and more often than not,
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: what lawyers like me are required to do would be
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: to actually file a lawsuit just to obtain some of
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: the preliminary information because they don't or they won't provide
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: it to us voluntarily. So, to answer your question, we
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: believe that there is going to be forensic evidence that
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: will not only corroborate what my clients are telling you
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: what happened to them, but there will also be forensic
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: evidence and reports that document what drugs.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: Were in their system.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: And it should also be noted that when the toxicology
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: was conducted.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: I don't believe that it was conducted.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: We're still trying to find out what time all this
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: information was when the investigation took place, but it was
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: many hours after the incident. So in cruisive crime cases,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: there's often a delay in reporting, and there's a delay
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: in the cruise lines investigation into what happened, and they
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: just use that to their benefit as a strategic advantage
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: to try to discount what passengers or people on their vessels,
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: or in this case, what my clients say happened to
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: them in the Bahamas didn't take place.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You know, another issue you're going to have to battle,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Nicholas Gerson is lack on witnesses in that on cruise ships,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: when everybody gets off that boat, they're gone. You can't
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: put Humpty Dumpty back together again. You can't find all
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: those people, Which makes these toxicology reports that more important
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: because you're going to be relying on them. And I
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: can tell you one thing from trying more cases than
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I can think, and I can count the fact that
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: they haven't handed it over pronto. There's a reason they
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: haven't given it to you. Of course there is I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: can only imagine why. Guys with me is Nicholas Gerson,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: who is the lawyer for Amber and Doniela. Okay, so
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you're out in the water, you're facetiming live with your
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: family and they're like, what is wrong with you? Mom?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And they notice something is wrong. What's your next memory?
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I remember we decided we needed to get out of water.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: We had to get out of the water.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Both here that something's going to happen, because if we
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: can't even stand up in this water and like, we're
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: gonna die.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: So we get out of the water and we decide,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: you know, let's go look for shells for our kids.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Let's see if we could find any of the cute
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: little clunch shells or whole pieces. And I did actually
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: find a small piece of a broken cunch shell that
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: is absolutely beautiful. And so the resort worker, he's still
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: with us at this time, and he's telling us, Oh,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I know exactly where to find them. They're just right
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: over here. Come follow me and I'll show you.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Oh that's just hurting me to hear it say the whitelocks.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: You are a travel editor for dailymail dot Com, one
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: of the biggest websites in the world. I mean, this
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: is so obvious, asking them do you want to pose
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: for a commercial? For Hey, I know where some shells are.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Follow me. It's so obvious. They give the ladies the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: drink and then they lure them away.
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: It's so hot though, like when they're dressed in a
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: uniform as well. You put your trust in workers and
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: you're at a resort, so it's obvious in hindsight, but
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: at the time it's difficult.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously a ploy. And this is one of
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the red flags travelers, ladies especially to watch out for you.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Hear Amber and Don Guilla, the guys saying, hey, do
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you want to be in a commercial? Do you want
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to be in a promo? Shoot bs B s? And
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: then hey, I know where some really good shells are. Okay,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: So then what happens, ladies?
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: The next thing we know, I wake up to being raped.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: This is Amber talking.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: I wake up and I'm being raped, and I grabbed
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: the tree in front of me. I pulled myself up
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: and I run. I'm just running.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, what do you mean the next
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: thing you know, you were being raped. You're outdoors. You
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: said you reached up and grabbed a tree. You were
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: raped outdoors? This is reminded me of Natalie Holloway so much.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am, we were.
• 36:12
  Speaker 9: At the beach was still in view.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: There's a little bushy area with trees that's right, like
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: the tree line of the beach. We were right there
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: and I woke up to being raped.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: What was the first thing you saw?
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: The first thing that I could see was the ocean
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: in front of me, so I know I wasn't far
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: from where I started.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Was the perpetrator on top of you or behind you?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: He was behind me, so he was raping you from behind?
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Did you see his face when I got up?
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Yes? I did.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: You got up, you turned around and you looked at him.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Correct before I ran away? Yes, I did.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Is your rapist the same guy that first approached you
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: wearing a resort uniform?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: He the one of the same. The same was that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: in the picture that you took, Yes, ma'am.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Were you I was screaming for don Gaela. I wanted
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: to find her. I was screaming Doug Gala Gaiter, which
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: is my nickname for her, is gaitor, and I was
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: looking for she was coming around a vand on the
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: beach and I found her, and we've got to run.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: We've got to run, We've got to run, We've got
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: to go. We got to get to the bathroom. I
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: remember there was an attendant in the bathroom.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, did you still have on your swimsuit?
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was half to the side. I didn't care, so.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: He y ain't your swimsuit to the side so he
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: could rape you vaginally?
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I had vaginal and anal penetration.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: So you take off running with your swimsuit all twisted
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: around you. Yes, I mean right there. What woman would
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: run out on the beach in that condition. Now you're
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: telling me that you were screaming for don Gela as
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: you call her Gaiter, and then you.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Saw her, Yeah, I seen her. I grabbed her arm,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and it was one of those where we were so
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: drugged you can't think. You have to make yourself think,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: you have to make your body move, you have to
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: make yourself do anything, because you have no control over anything,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I mean none.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Then what happened.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: We forced ourself. I'm basically dragging Gator to the bathroom
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: where we had seen the attendant because I knew there
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: was another staff member there. And then I remember both
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: of us vomiting and the toilet, and then I don't
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: remember anything. They said, Don Gaela was blacked out on
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: the floor and I was still vomiting when they arrived.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: You mean that the nurse the.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: FNP, La Donna, Apparently she had taken care of the
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: attendant earlier in the day and she had had a sprain,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: ankle or a stept at me. I can't remember what
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Lo Donna had told me, but she thought La Donna
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: was a doctor, so she went and got Lo Donna.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: The nurse practitioner who was on the trip. Yes, ma'am, okay,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: hold on, let me back up, Don Guiella, I don't
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: know where the second perp, where did he come from?
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Tell me what happened from your perspective. After you guys
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: were kind of falling in the water, what happened with you?
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: So, like we has said, we decided we're going to
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: get out. My mom had a message to me that
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: she was extremely concerned about hers, but I told her,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, we just didn't drink. The alcohol
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: must be hitting this a little harder, but it's okay, mom,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: We're going to get out of the water. We're just
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: going to kind of lay on the beach, kind of
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: take it easy. We're not going to be doing too
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: much more today, like we're this has got the wear
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: off because we can't feel like this. And then I
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: remember this guy, he's showing us where the conch shells are.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I wanted to so stupid. I just wanted them for
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: my kids to take them back home, shells from the Bohmbers.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, you are now hearing Don Gela Dobson.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: You've heard Amber. You're hearing Don Gela and Hey really quickly,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Nicholas Gurson before I forget not that I have to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: tell you this. You're the high profile lawyer, but you
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: have saved all of those emails, texts, video that your
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: clients were sending back and forth home, because I find
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it very probative that even their families are like, what
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: is wrong with you?
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: Mom?
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I've never seen you like tripping over like this? Right
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: you preserved all that.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: Of course right now, and I don't want i'll'll just
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: to add is that we're collecting as much evidence as
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: we can from parties and non parties to help pursue
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: our clients.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Kep Okay, of course you have and that's why you've
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: got a great sterling reputation. You're gathering at all all
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: as I like to call it, the amo that you're
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: going to fire right at Pirate's Cove and specifically the
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: rapist back to Don Giella Dobson. And you know these ladies,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you think they like sharing their rapes and their humiliation,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: their embarrassment when they look back on what happened. No,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: are doing it because they don't want it to happen
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: to other women. Time Stories with Nancy Grace Don Gel. Okay,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: so you're out in the water chipping around. You're then
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: what happens, and.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: We decide we're gonna get out. We draw off, We're
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: gonna go look for some seashells. So I put my
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: bag up at the top of the like there's like
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: a table area, and I leave my bag there while
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: we go look for shells because I don't want to
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: drag my tails and everything. We're not gonna be gone
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: that long. We're just going to look for a couple
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: of shells. Yeah, And I remember we get over to
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: that side, and I remember seeing a couple of other tourists,
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: not very many it, I mean, it's February. It's not
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: necessarily peak season right now. And then I remember seeing
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: two other guys in uniforms, staff members in their uniforms
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: walking the beach. They weren't walking like side by side
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: that they kind of were walking, you know, just up
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: and down. And I didn't think of anything of it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I thought I was normal that they would
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: be patrolling the beach. And the next thing I know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I'm waking up to sternalm rubs in the security office.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: I don't even remember the bathroom.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by sternam rubs?
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: So, sternal rube is what we do to a patient
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: to kind of bring them to when a patient is fading.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: So what you do is you make a fifth and
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: you use your knuckles, you place it in the middle
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: of the sternum and you rub as hard as you can.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: And that's what they kept doing to Donela and I
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: to keep bringing us back because we kept fading away.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Were such bad shape. What are you are you, guys, nurses.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I'm in the medical field.
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: Donela is not.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to take in everything you're saying. So
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: don Gela, you come to, for lack of a better phrase,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you're lying in the floor. Are you still in your swimsuit?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: And how do you know you were raped?
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I have a brief, very brief recollection of being pushed
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: down and then face for I'm sorry, face forward, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: remember a glimpse of his face. But he just had
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: this distinctive face.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: He was he was.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: An older gentleman, and he had like a goatee, and
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: it's I don't know how I remember this, but I
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: thank God each and every day I was able to
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: remember that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: So you saw his face.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I saw his face in daylight, in daylight, and you
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: were not.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Wearing glasses or any type of corrective contacts. No, how
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: close was he to you when.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: You saw his face, maybe two foot.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Well see in front of you or behind you? Did
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: you have to turn to look at him?
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I know that he was behind me at some point,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: but when I saw his face, he was in front
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: of me.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: In front of you, standing on top of you.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like walk walking past me, like as we were
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: looking for shelves, and then like then I remember him
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: pushing me down. So I seen him in front of me,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: but I by the time he pushed me down, like
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I no longer could see him. And I don't. I
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: don't know any anything else, like I said, until we
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: get to the security office at pirates Co. I don't
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: have any recollection of Amber finding me. I don't have
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: any recollection of being in the bathroom. I don't recall that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: And that is exactly why rapists hues things like Ruth.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: You think about Bill Cosby, Those women come over for
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: an interview or to get mentory, and they wake up
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and their underwear on backwards, and they have no memory
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: of what happened. No memory. So let me ask you this,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Don Gila. Was your swimsuit in place or was it
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: out of place?
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I do know Lodonna had told
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: me my swimsuit was extremely out of place. I was
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: the one that she was describing as completely exposed on
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: the bathroom floor when she walked in.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: So this is Don Gayla's swimsuit was exposed.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Just tell me straight out.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: So the bathing suit itself was a.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Cross pod, and my boobs were all out, but it had.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: A crosstop, and her breasts were exposed because the cross
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: top had come off of her.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Breast and slid up, and I was spent.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Her breasts were literally hanging out, one hitting the floor,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: and one just want.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: What about the bottom part of the swimsuit.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Her vagina was exposed as well.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I do remember feeling the burning sensation inside of my
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: vagina when I woke up and knowing something terrible has
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: happened to me. And then I still seen in and
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: bodily slipped running down my leg And there's no denying,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: there's no there's no.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Doubt in my mind.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: I know exactly what had happened to me at that point.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Then what happened? What do you recall happening next?
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: I recall us going into a well being in the
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: security office, and I remember I kept coming in and
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: out of it, and Amber would come in and out
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: of it, kind of almost at different times. It's we
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: kind of just took turns going in and out of it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: But I remember the lady, one of the security members
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: at Powarto, pulled up security footage and she was able
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: to find the man that attacked Amber. And it just
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: so happens that I was able to give a good
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: enough description that my perpetrator just happened to walk to
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: go into the security office at the same time as
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I was explaining him to her and Lea Donna actually
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: seeing him outside and she was like, that's him, that's him,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: And so they brought on me and I was able
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: to identify his face in person, been in there and
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: say that for sure is him, that that was him.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Had seen this is Amber. Donna had seen the man
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: that had been following us all day long, the man
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: who had raped me. So she she immediately knew who
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: he was. And then with a description done gaela gaze,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: they were able to see who he was to.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Was he also in a resort uniform?
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Did you later learn that they did in fact work there.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, one Amber's rapedists had started one a week.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Less than she said that, the lizard said, and he's
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: been here less than a week. This is what gives
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: us Bohemians a bad name.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: And then the other one. I don't know how long
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: that he has been there, but I know that he
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: works there for certain, because I have been in contact
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: or people will just kind of reach out to me
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: and let me know, especially from the reason that's seen
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: us in that situation, the lifeguard, and let me know
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: that he indeed was a staff member. He did in
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: deep work there and he had worked a zipline area,
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: which is nowhere near anywhere where we were.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: He was there predating, as experts say, looking like hunting
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: for a victim, who said, Hey, this is what gives
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: us all a bad name. He hasn't even been here
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: a week. Who said that the lifeguard? Okay, Sadie Whitelocks,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: first of all, let me just say to Amber and
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Don Gala, I feel right now the same way I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: did so many many times trying a rape case. I
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: hate putting the victim through the retelling and the reliving
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: because very often they then will have renewed nightmares or
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: daymyares or night terrors because of having to relive it.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: But I want you to know I'm just we live
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: them often. I'm just so sick for you and so
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: sorry for what happened, because it's going to be with
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: you the rest of your life. To you, Sadie Whitelocks,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: you had a brush with danger in the Bahamas. In
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: your capacity as a US travel editor for deal email
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: dot com. What is your reaction and your advice after
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: hearing Amber in Don Gala's story. And I believe what
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: they are saying completely because I have an impartial witness
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: telling me facts that corroborate everything they're saying, what happened
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to you in the Bahamas, Sadi, Well.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: It's something completely different.
• 50:52
  Speaker 9: But I think I just learned from a very young
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: age that basically I was on vacation with my family,
• 50:59
  Speaker 9: was around eleven years old, and we spent a good
• 51:02
  Speaker 9: few days on this stretch of beach and it seemed
• 51:05
  Speaker 9: really idyllic.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: It was like paradise.
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: There was this guy who came along. We called him
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: Coconut Joe, and he had a machette and he'd like
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: served fresh coconuts.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: On the beach and we felt safe.
• 51:18
  Speaker 9: I was with two children, similar age, and we went
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: off alone and our parents didn't worry, you know, we
• 51:24
  Speaker 9: were playing in the sea and things like that. We
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: got home back to the UK and on the news
• 51:31
  Speaker 9: the same week we were there and the exact location
• 51:35
  Speaker 9: two women had been murdered and their bodies were found,
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: and it was like the lady was saying, in the
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: Bahamas is kind of just stepped back from the beach.
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: There was a tree line and that's where right they
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: were found. But it was very unnerving as a child,
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: thinking that we've been in this apparently safe environment.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I just can't help but think about
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: to Sadie Scott, Nicholas Dungila and Amber about Natalie Holloway
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: because she was drugged by a local at carliston Charlie's
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: near the cruise ship. She was taken out on a
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: beach near the tree line where she was raped and killed.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: And even in light of this horrible thing that has
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: happened to you, I got to tell you, I praise
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: God that you're alive.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: How are you getting through your days now? Amber? How
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: has this? I know you're getting horrible, horrible hate mail
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: and nasty comments. I'm not quite sure why, but how
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: has this whole thing affected you and your family?
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: So my children and I temporarily moved in with Don
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Gala because Don Gela and I don't feel safe unless
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: sort together and where I'm not married, it's easier for
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: me to pick up and move and we can just
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: transport my kids. Even one of us are able to work.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: It's just too stressful, it's too much. We feel overwhelmed.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: We can't be around people. We have panic attacks and
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: we're going to Walmart anything day to day, like we
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: can't go get groceries. We can't. Little noises fear us.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Anytime we close our eyes we see a rapists.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Scott A. Johnson joining me out of Minnesota, renowned forensic
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: psychologist at Forensic Consultation dot Org. Scott, when victims go
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: through traumatic episodes when they are attacked, when they witness
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: a murder, when I can't really explain, they continue to
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: have nightmares, night terrors, flashbacks. I believe for the rest
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: of their lives. A crime like this can completely change
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: the course of your life. And I'm speaking from personal experience.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I've had many, many people I knew in my youth
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: tell me they don't know each other, that my personality
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: completely changed after my fiance's murder. I don't know that
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: they know it. I mean, it affects you the rest
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: of your life.
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: Scott, Yes, absolutely, because again the brain doesn't forget traumatic events.
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: But as you talk about it, as you experience, you
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: can hopefully come to a point where the impact is
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: lessened over time. But it does not go away, and
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: they will allow always be that bad day, even when
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: things seem to be going good. But the biggest and
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: most important part to focus on is talking about it.
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: When it's occurring, so you're not keeping it in your
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: head and isolating yourself.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: You know. I noticed that Amber and don Giella say
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: they quote don't know why, but they have to be together.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: They don't feel safe. That is actually very common amongst
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: ripe victims.
• 55:28
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, explained, Absolutely, And it's because of the number one
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: people that have gone through same, similar experiences have a
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: connection that others don't.
• 55:38
  Speaker 8: And secondly, it's just simply who does that particular person
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: feel the most safe with. And so in this case,
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: both of them have been through same similar and experience obviously,
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: and both trust each other and feel safe with each other.
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: Plus they know each other understands. They don't have to
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: explain to each other what the hell happened or what
• 56:02
  Speaker 8: they're going through. When they have a day mayre or nightmare.
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: They can simply talk to each other, but they get
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: it because they both likely experienced similar things, so it
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: feels safer to be together.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Amber. A question in the Bahamas, was a rape kit
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: performed on you or donk Yella?
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: A rape kit was not performed on us until we
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: were on the Carnival cruise ship.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: How many hours later was that?
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: That was at about two o'clock. And I remember LaDonna
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: having to get on she kip saying she had to
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: leave at eleven forty five to get on her bus.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: See it back to the Elation. So our rapes. I
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: don't know the exact timeline when our rape happened, but
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: somewhere between nine thirty and ten, so that to two o'clock.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so sperm would still exist at that time.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: It is arning to break down.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: But the Bohemians made us your innate, right what they
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: made us your innate and collect toilet tissue and they
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: said that would provide evidence, and that would be enough
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: evidence for a rape test. And I was like, that's
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: not that's not true.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Did do you get a rape kit on the ship.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: We got a rape kit on the ship, But they
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: kept telling me that toilet tissue would suffice, that that
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: seaman would suffice to identify our rapist. And I said, no,
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: that's not enough. We still need the rape kits. And
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Loadonna will testify that I had asked for a US
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: physician a crew position, I'd ask for rape kit toilet paper.
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you go abroad, you are a lull
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: into a false sense of complacency. You're on vacation, you're
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: having a good time. Your defenses are down. Can you
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: hear me? They told these ladies are just te te
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: and the toilet paper will be fine. That's a rape kit?
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: What I mean? It's almost as if they're actively engaged
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: in the cover up. But ladies, what is your message
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: to women listening today?
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Don Gala likes to tell people that two is not enough.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Two is not safe. You need to travel in pairs
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: of four or more. We both encourage people to drink
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: drinks if they want to on vacation, but make sure
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: their drinks are sealed. You cannot always trust staff members.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: You must be vigilant. You must be your own advocate
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: and speak up, speak out if something doesn't feel right.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Amber, what is your response to all of those trolls
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: sending you these hateful messages after what you and Dong
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Guiella have already survived.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: It's funny you say that, because just yesterday Don Gala
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: and I went and we felt we didn't feel ourselves
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: after our rapes, and we both cut about seven inches
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  Speaker 3: or more off of our hair, and we both posted pictures.
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  Speaker 3: And these trolls are even sharing our pictures somehow on Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: But you know with my message, I said, I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to live day by day, smile by smile, And that
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  Speaker 3: is so true because it's these small victories that I get.
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  Speaker 3: The smallest victories are the biggest victories for us, because
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  Speaker 3: it's everything is hard, everything is complicated, actory like what
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  Speaker 3: we were talking earlier about, you know, being haard for
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  Speaker 3: family members when you come back. Do you know how
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  Speaker 3: hard it was when we came back and our children
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  Speaker 3: tried to jump on us or touch us, and we flinched.
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  Speaker 3: Those are our children, our children, and we.
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  Speaker 11: Push them away.
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  Speaker 3: We was in way because automatically in our minds we
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  Speaker 3: are backing that.
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  Speaker 9: Place and we know that we love our children.
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  Speaker 5: We know that.
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  Speaker 4: There are babies.
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  Speaker 11: But in those moments, it is herebytus for all of
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  Speaker 11: you listening and watching.
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  Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about the
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  Speaker 1: identities or the circumstances surrounding the rapes of these two
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  Speaker 1: American ladies, please call toll free one eight hundred two
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  Speaker 1: two five five three two four. It is the Elatian
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  Speaker 1: cruise ship with Carnival Cruise Lines eight hundred two two
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  Speaker 1: five two four. I'm not sending you a Carnival Cruise
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  Speaker 1: Line tip number. I'm sending you the FBI tip number
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  Speaker 1: if you remember anything from that day at Pirate's Cove.
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  Speaker 1: The date of the offense was February four, twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Were you at Pirate's Cove? Eight hundred two two five
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  Speaker 1: five three two four And to Amber and do Gela,
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  Speaker 1: you are a beacon. You are a light to other
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  Speaker 1: women that have been raped and are too afraid or
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  Speaker 1: embarrassed to speak out. Our prayers for you continue and
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  Speaker 1: now we want justice. Thank you so much, Yes, Ann, Goodbye,